July 5, 2025 • 35 mins
Steve Rother returns with a powerful solo update on Earth’s transformation and the role of Extra Dimensionals. Hear how SpiritCast Q&A messages from The Group are unfolding in real time—including ice age shifts and planetary evolution.
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Music. Hi everybody, glad you're with
us. Thank you for being here today.
You know the back story podcast,we try to bring you some
interesting people. A lot of times these are people
much like you that have decided to step into the work and
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sometimes met with great success.
We've seen a lot of people that have, we have actually been
instrumental in starting or thathad been around us in the
beginning that had just exploded.
So it's been marvelous to show these to you and show you how
people are working and what that's what that's like.
Every so often I will take some time out and from the
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interviews, we got some incredible people coming.
I can't wait to share it all with you.
But every time it's in a while, I'm going to take some time out
and just kind of bring you up todate on the things the group is
saying. They're saying a lot of things
right now. They talked even more just
recently on in June 29th on the Spirit Cast Live broadcast.
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We're working with this particular subject also in Light
Master right now, the first two Light Masters of the Month and
to be able to do that. So what I'd like to do during
this time together is to simply bring you the opportunity to to
work together and to kind of share with you a little bit of
what this is from my perspective, from what the group
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has talked to me about, because there's quite a few things that
are changing that they are that they're talking about quite a
bit right now. One of them in particular is
about the earth. The Earth is going through a lot
of changes right now. I'll tell you a little bit about
what they're saying the E TS aredoing and what they're doing.
I don't know where they were going into live channel today or
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not. I don't know that we'll just
have to wait. Sometimes they tap me on the
shoulder and they get, they justget out of the way.
See, we'll take it from here. So I, I don't know, we'll just
have to wait and see. That's that is absolutely
truthful, though. That's the kind of part of the
way we work with things. OK, for in the time being, I'm
going to get settled over here and we will kind of bring that
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in, allow them to kind of take over if they want, but I want to
get in position so I can just kind of relax and talk to you.
So welcome today. Glad you're in the Back Story
podcast. Like I said, I do have some very
interesting people already linedup in the books.
We'll also be bringing back a few of the people that I really
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enjoyed and that really there's so many times, so many people
just mesh with the work. They it's just been incredible.
So we've had a few of those. I'll be able to bring that back
to you and tell you kind of what's coming out from a larger
perspective. Now.
Let me tell you where we're at. The most important thing that I
can tell you today is that the group is talking a lot about E
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TS, but they're not calling themE TS.
They've described this in several different locations,
including light mass, recent light master courses,
particularly in the recent lightmaster courses, they've been
talking a lot about that. And what that is, what they
basically say about our our friends and our parental races
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is that there are 4 parental races on this planet.
In other words, those are beingsthat were here at the beginning
of this stage of humanity. And I will tell you, we've
gathered before as spirits. We gathered before as spirits on
Mars and we inhabit it. And I say we, that's the large
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we, we basically inhabited Mars for a while.
The three sisters came together.They gave a very interesting
story about carbon dioxide, how there was a they were Earth
needed carbon dioxide and it wasloaned from the two sisters, the
two other sisters, Venus and Mars.
So anyway, they've got this interesting story about it.
There's no, I haven't been able to find any actual background of
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that or any astrophysics that supports that.
So right now it's just a story, but it's basically about how
Earth started and what took place in the beginning.
We had parental races, we had races that helped form these
body forms and help to evolve them in different ways.
Are we part of evolution? Yes, we are.
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But there's some huge missing links.
We took some jumps. Where did they have help yet?
Yes, first of all, many of thesebeings have been with us a long
time. There were six parental races in
the beginning. There's only four of them left.
Yes, war does happen in other parts of the universe.
Unfortunately, there are four ofthese parental races left.
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These are some very caring, caring beings.
I will tell you that there's a lot of incredible love that's
coming from these beings. When I get to experience them,
the group has shown me them several times.
I don't actually interact with them or channel them per SE, but
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when I get to see them, it's like I get to see them doing
their work. They're very dedicated and what
they're doing. They're here to focus on
different things. You know, we've all got this
fear. Well, what happens if they're
smarter than us? What happens if they're, you
know, what happens if they're going to take us over?
Well, I thought they were. And they had the technology,
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didn't they? They could have taken us over a
long time ago. And in fact they did.
That's where the start story of the Garden of Eden came from.
Anyway. Other situations we'll talk to
you about in another time. But they've been talking a lot
about these beings lately. Now, they're not the only E TS
on Earth. There's many of the group said.
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There's over 141 races of ETS living on this planet,
interfacing with the planet. Sometimes, sometimes staying,
sometimes not. How is that possible?
Well, you know, I'm a bit of a scientists myself.
I take all the science magazines, all the astrophysics
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magazine, all the quantum mechanics magazines.
I'd love to keep up with it because the group, and I'm
reading some of these things, the group says, see, this fits
right into what we've been telling you.
And here's what it looks like onthe larger scale.
So I'm able to integrate a lot of that stuff.
And I know many astrophysicists who have the same opinion #1
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when they look out in the sky, they know that there's other
life out there. Just the sheer numbers of
galaxies that we have discovered.
Galaxies like like ours and likethe Milky Way.
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We're going to merge with Andromeda down the road too.
That'll be fun. Other fireworks anyway.
Basically their entire galaxies have been found.
There is absolutely no doubt that there's other life in the
universe. From all these astrophysicists
that I know, where they come up short is saying, well, do you
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believe we've been visited by astrophysicism?
Right away They jump into a belief system.
A linear belief system comes from their training, comes from
their schooling, comes from everything else.
A basic Newtonian timeline, which doesn't fit.
What group has talked about recently is that these are
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beings that know how to shift dimensions.
Now it wasn't that long ago. It was only a couple months ago
we did a seminar called 5th dimensional healing, excuse me,
multi dimensional healing. And it was really at the
breakdown of how dimensions work, how things work, the
things, you know, how it, how itall, how it all comes together
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and how it's in multiples of 12 and, and all the other aspects
of it. So it's really fascinating way
to cover all that. And in that, of course, we
talked a little bit about the processes that we're starting to
see the interactions of the ETS.So where astrophysicists come up
short, as they say, yes, we believe there's life in the
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universe, but we don't believe it's actually visited us.
It has no way. We know from our training that
nothing moves faster than the speed of light.
Well, that's true in our dimension.
Now, what if there are other, and we've talked, the group has
talked about this many times. What if there were other
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timelines running right next to ours, vibrating just a little
bit differently? Would you cross each other with?
Occasionally they do cross and then they come back and they
cross again. And we've, we've even celebrated
some of these timeline crossings.
So this is the illusion of linear time and dimensionality.
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So when does this usually happen?
Usually happens at night when you're sleeping.
One of the greatest times that you can fall into another
dimension of time. Your conscious brain gets
relaxed long enough to let go. And especially in the R.E.M.
state as you're coming back intothe world, you can actually jump
into another dimension of time. That's when you have these
incredibly vivid dreams that many times don't always make
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sense, but you remember them every detail about them years
later. Many times those are actually
jumping into another dimension of time and space.
What if people could do that intentionally?
Well, that's actually what the group says we're looking at.
The group says we're not lookingat extraterrestrials, we're
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looking at extra dimensionals. And that's what they've started
to call them. They're calling them EDS instead
of ETS because they're basicallyliving in a dimension right next
to ours. But they've learned how to tune
their frequency to be able to jump into our world and jump
back out. And that is what why the group
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calls them extra dimensionals. That takes all the challenges of
the astrophysicist away that say, and nothing can travel
faster than the speed of light. Yes, that's correct.
But you can jump dimensions and since time and his illusion,
there's a lot that's going to becoming on that from the group
down the road, but not now. It's too confusing, I know.
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So anyway, all that stuff's going on.
So now they're calling them E DSand they're calling them extra
dimensionals. And they have said something
from the beginning, from the beginning of their work, when
they started talking about E DS recently, this was probably only
about less than a year ago, probably 8 months ago, nine
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months ago, we started talking about extraterrestrials in the
job that they're doing, things that are taking place, how they
are involved with our politics, how they're involved with our
technologies. A lot of things actually came
from them. Even though we think we come up
with these great ideas, they're actually dropped into the
subconscious mind and see who grabs it first.
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So there is all kinds of interesting things that are
taking place that are seeded. We have been being seated for
quite some time now. Where are we with everything?
Well, the group says that those 4 parental races, keep in mind
there's all kinds of parental races, all kinds of E DS out
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there and they have different focuses.
None of them are trying to take us over or turn us into a slave
race. OK, It's not, that's not needed.
OK, you don't, when you evolve, you don't need slave races to do
your dirty work. So anyway, basically it's, it's,
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it's a different type of situation.
So where are we with the whole process?
Well, they said that there were 4 parental races actively
working on planet Earth right now.
And they talked to, they talked a lot about this about a year
ago. And they basically said that
they're here, they have been here.
They've never really left. But there's a concerted effort
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on planet Earth right now. I assumed it was because of all
the craziness that's going on with politics, all the crazy
wars that we're having, all the the, the nonsense things that
are taking place that don't really pan out or make sense.
And I kind of assumed that was it.
And the group said, no, that's not it.
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They're not here to work with humans at all.
They're here to work only with the Earth.
There's a critical aspect of theEarth herself that needs to be
adjusted for her to remain in orbit the way she is.
This is a real serious thing. They haven't talked about it.
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They told me over and again thatthey are here to work with the
Earth and they're having successwith working with the Earth.
I don't know what that means. It doesn't really mean much to
me just to hear those words, butrecently they've come out with
something new and they wanted totake it a little further as to
what has taken place. Apparently a milestone has been
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reached in the E DS work with planet Earth.
Something has happened now that can change the trajectory of
planet Earth and has a lot to dowith the work that these 4
parental races did on planet Earth already.
And it's only over the last several months that this has
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happened. But let me explain what's taking
place. We have apparently, and I had to
do my research on this because Ididn't quite understand it.
I know how things circulate having to do with the jet stream
and how things move around in the air, how the particles from
the Sahara desert fly in the airand actually feed all sorts of
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plankton which produce oxygen onthe earth.
That the interconnection of manyof these crazy things that take
place. I know how that works and I
wasn't that familiar with how itworks below the ocean, so I had
to do some research. But that is where the E DS have
been working. Now there are many times that go
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back into the early 20s where craft spacecraft, we'll simply
call it, have entered into the water many times.
There's been a lot of things that have surfaced, people
saying, well, they have bases down there.
They have bases that they refresh and they turn the
seawater into their, into, you know what they need.
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And they, they get all their, all their information, they're
going down there and all this stuff.
That's not quite the way the group sees it.
Yes, they are multidimensional. So they literally can shift
their vibration a little bit anddisappear from your view.
It doesn't mean they're not there.
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It means they're vibrating at a different range that you cannot
see. And a lot of things have been
taking place under the water with planet Earth.
So especially over the last fiveto six years, these EDS, these
our parental races have been working in the water a lot.
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You may even start to see more of that because they're starting
to let themselves be seen. They've realized that even
though they made agreements to keep it from 1, government
didn't want to know that they were talking to the other
government. So that, yeah, it's all about
power and money. It's real simple.
Follow the power, follow the money, follow the struggles.
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You'll see where it goes. And unfortunately, the E DS are
wrapped up in it many times. But this time a call went out
that was much more important than all the small BS.
And that was from the earth herself.
She was in trouble. It was one of her systems that
were stuck. I'll explain it very basically,
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I know very little about it because I had to do my research,
but it's basically called the, it's called the global ocean
conveyor belt. And what it does is it does the
same thing that I described in the air, how the air is
distributed all over the planet through the jet stream and
different aspects of being able to take it in different places
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and how it's working and how it's changing with global
warming. While that is also taking place
with this as well. It's happening in some very
fascinating ways that are starting to uncover very
quickly. So apparently this conveyor belt
system is made to distribute thehot and cold temperatures all
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over the planet. It actually regulates the
temperatures of the planet by being able to bring the cold
water from certain levels and take the hot water from other
levels and distribute them in different places.
It's a fairly simple system thatgoes into motion.
However, because of some of the things that have taken place,
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particularly the melting of the ice caps, which has brought a
tremendous amount of basically clear or unsalted water, fresh
water, into the oceans. What that does is that takes the
heavier salt layers and brings them down.
There's a separation in the oceans now where the salt, salt
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water is down here and the freshwater is up here and that
has clogged these conveyor belt systems.
This is what the E DS have been working on and particularly and
they have now reached a level where they have actually they
they going to see some success from this.
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Now, what does that mean exactly?
What's going to take place? Does that mean global warming is
going to stop? Not for a few years.
You're looking at a freight train.
You want it to stop. You want to slam on the brakes.
Right now you can, but it's going to take several kilometers
to stop. It's not going to stop right
away. It's moving very fast with a lot
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of mass behind it. The same is true with the Earth
and her evolution. You're going to continue to see
global warming increase. You're going to continue to see
records be set on pounded Earth for the near future and near 3
to five years after that time, things should start to hook in.
The conveyor belts are working again.
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It'll take that long to start toget things in motion again.
When they do get into motion, you will say see things start to
change. Now, here's the reason we told
you all of this. When they start to change,
whether it's three to five yearsdown the road, whether it's
tomorrow, when they start to change, they have two options.
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It can change slowly or it can snap and change very quickly.
Either way, humanity is enteringa new Ice Age at the end of this
run, and that will be facilitated partly by releasing
this conveyor belt and putting it back to normal.
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I was going to be entering that type of situation anyway, but
the whole conveyor belt, as I said, has basically been jammed
up, has not been working properly.
Don't believe I was not able to find science behind that saying
that this is what the group is telling me.
I have seen things talking aboutit.
I have seen recent studies and recent things, people talking
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about a coming Ice Age again. Let me explain what they're
talking about from the group's perspective.
One of the things that the grouphas talked about is this mini
Ice Age. Apparently in the, I think it
was the late teens or early 20s,we actually had a mini Ice Age
on planet Earth. It mostly affected the upper
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parts of North America and northern Western Europe a lot.
It was really, really, really cold.
It wasn't Ice Age cold where we were trying just to survive, but
it was really uncomfortable and made life very difficult.
We are liable to see that one again.
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That one is what the group callsthe mini Ice Age.
It can last anywhere from 10 to 15 years and then we can start
going back on a fairly normal cycle.
The Holocene is gone. Holocene is a 10,000 year period
where the temperature only movedup 1° up or down.
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That ended. You're past that now thanks to
global, global warming took careof that very quickly.
So so did a lot of things. You're on track, go we're on
track, the group says. With helping with a lot of
things we do. There's a lot of confusion out
there, people saying no, we still need oil.
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We still have to have oil to do this.
We still have to have oil to runthese things.
Yes, you built a society on oil.You're going to have to have oil
for a while. But the more that you can be
conscious and to work with new battery systems that are coming,
those can be huge with being able to make electric cars more
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viable. And you Start Stop playing the
games with tariffs, you'll find that they're plentiful and
really help to really help to tomove things in a global fashion.
So those are things that the group has been talking about.
Now what happens if it moves very quickly?
Then we enter a full on Ice Age and it could last for quite some
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time, not just a short 15 years.We are at the precipe of a new
Ice Age and we how we experiencethat will have a lot to do with
what the Earth experiences between now and then.
That's the reason the group wanted to have this message.
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They want to let everyone know that right now your work, your
efforts with working with planetEarth, whether that's saving
water, whether that's recycling,whether that's picking up trash
on your walk in the woods, whatever it is, everything's
going to be amplified quite a lot because you have
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capabilities of changing that right now.
A little bit of help from this side of the veil and human side
two planet Earths will allow herto shift more comfortably rather
than take a snap movement and fall into an eye rapid Ice Age.
When is this going to happen? We still don't know.
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You might be able to postpone itfor a very long time, may be
able to avoid it all together, although I don't think so.
I think you'll experience the cooling in some fashion.
How far down the road, I don't know.
But there is another side to this whole cycle.
And you'll be hearing scientiststalk about this conveyor belt.
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This is starting to move again. And we say that because
basically it was, it was jammed up, not functioning the way it
does. It wasn't causing the global
warming. The global warming is still in
effect. It's still going through the
same processes. And like we said, you're going
to still see years ahead of you that are going to be in in
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record heat, but you will see it.
You will see a little light at the end of the tunnel there.
And that can be huge. And the more that you work with
planet Earth right now, the easier it's going to be for her
to make that turn gently and softly.
The E DS that are here, the extra dimensionals that are
here, they have. There's some incredible beings.
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Will you hear some horror stories?
Because horror stories sell things very well on the
Internet, more so than the actual truth.
Many times. Are there E DS, are there, Are
there the bad guys that are trying to capture you in some
way? You know, are there bad humans?
Yes, there are bad humans, but the reality is most of them that
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are here not only don't mean youany harm, but are really here to
help. And they are.
And that's something to keep in mind.
As we mentioned, there's 141 different races right now of
different E TS on Earth. We're talking about the four
mainlands. You probably know them.
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We don't need to describe them all right now, but they're the
four main ones that humans know because they are the remainder
of your six parental races. They're what's left, and they're
here to keep it going. They don't want this to end.
They had to come first. Work with the planet.
Now they'll come and try to plant some seeds, which they
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have done many times. Please do not put them on a
pedestal. Do not pray to them, just take
the information and use it and stop giving the power away to
everything else around you. That's their message and that's
the idea of what we want to do here with the Back Story Podcast
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as well. We'd like to bring you as much
of this information as possible.I know it's difficult to
understand some of the things that we talked about.
Multi dimensionality was very challenging for me to grasp in
the very beginning. Now I'm wrestling with this no
time concept that I still have not managed to wrap my brain
around in any way. They basically say that the time
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is an illusion that we create onearth.
And funny part is with the JamesWebb telescope, many physicists
are starting to say the same thing.
So anyway, there's a lot of interesting things that are
taking place in different ways, but I have not been able to wrap
my brain around that. Until I do, I can't teach it.
So we will be talking about thatanother time.
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Maybe. In the meantime, these are the
things I wanted to bring you up to date on to kind of share with
you a long story about what's taking place on planet Earth
having to do with our parental races.
How will they help us in the future?
Well, we know from the past because this has happened many
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times. We know that in all races, on
all religions, all of them have talked about the great floods.
We know this. And then one religion over here
says, well, you, you humans weren't good enough, so we had
to wipe everybody out and start over again.
OK, so sounds pretty judge mental to me.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure that quite fits in
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my room, but that's OK. Then you've got all the other
aspects about the Garden of Eden, how it was all prepared
for you. You just had to follow some
simple rules which you couldn't follow.
Thank you, Eve. Absolutely feminine empowerment
was absolutely needed to break the bonds that we had at that
point that released the bonds and set us loose in the planet
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of free choice. We have so many things that have
taken place as a result of that.Now they're all eyes of the
universe are on planet Earth because we were the planet of
free choice. Not that we've reached the
highest level of technology. We have reached the highest
level of evolution because we'reactually moving from the third
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into the 5th dimension. And that just does not happen,
but it's happening to us. We're very unique, we're very
special. We're not perfect.
We're still going to make lots of mistakes, I promise.
But the group is very excited about these new presentations
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from the E DS. What they've been talking about
will bring you more of that coming forward, what the
capabilities are. Hopefully we'll bring some
science reports. Hopefully we'll be able to see
some science reports talking about this conveyor belt moving
again. I haven't found it yet, but I
have didn't quite know where to look for all of it.
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But anyway, we'll we'll find some of that.
I'll bring that to you in one ofthe one of the Back Story
podcast. Like I said, I've got some
fascinating people coming up foryou.
I can't wait to share some of these people with you.
Susan Miller will be here. Stewart.
Stewart will be with us. If anybody knows, Stewart is got
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this incredible voice and I can't wait to bring him back on.
We've we've had quite a few withwith Stuart Pierce.
So anyway, we'll be bringing several people on that I think
you'll love incredible energies.And also, if you know people
that you'd like to see interviewed, send us an e-mail.
You can send your emails to questions at aspavo.org.
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We'll pick them up. Sometimes we'll answer them in
the Q&A that we do on on on YouTube every month.
And if not, if it needs a personal question, we'll answer
it there. Does take us a little while to
get those, but questions at aspaba.org is the best place to
do that. We're expanding in a lot of
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ways. We hope to.
We hope to see a lot of views coming up soon.
We'll be expanding in several areas.
Hope to do a seminar coming up in the Netherlands, which we
have not done in a while. We're planning on doing one more
in in Belgium this year. And I'm planning to go to
Russia. We're planning to go to Moscow.
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I'll give you more information on these things as we go
forward. We can make a difference if we
just follow the lead and we justone step at a time.
That's the whole purpose of whatwe're doing.
OK, next month, next week, I'll bring you that.
We're we're doing these every two weeks because we have so
much material coming in, but I wanted to take this time off and
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explain a few things to you. You will hear this word EDS
again, because basically they'rea know how to shift this
dimensional reality and how to do some things that we don't
know how to do. The group's also talked about
anti gravity based, the basics of how it's created.
It's created the same way that we shift dimensions at 90°
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angles. There's some basic
understandings of that that I don't even know, but I'm trying
to grasp it. But then they call it the
orthogonal matrix. It's how you shift from one
dimension to the other or bleed into a dimension if you wish.
There's different ways of working with these things.
We did bring those up in multi dimensional healing and we'll
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bring them up again at some point.
All right everybody, thank you for being with me today.
Thank you for letting me ramble,able to kind of just bring you
the energies from the group froma different perspective and tell
you some of the fun things. They've been saying that we are
evolving on this planet and I know we're here in times of
transition. I know it's crazy.
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I know sometimes I want to throwthings at the television, but
the the reality is we're here for that reason.
We can help rebalance this planet as these systems break
apart, we're the ones that can help to fix it, and that's part
of why we're here. So keep all that in mind and
don't lose faith. There's so many wonderful things
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that we can do to start changingthis Earth.
It's one thing I will mention that I will bring up on another
one. The group shared with me one
thing that can change the pollution levels of planet Earth
very quickly. It's called integrated farming.
It's where you do not till the soil, ever.
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You don't kill the microbes in the soil by trying to kill it
and then have to put the fertilizer back in later because
you killed all the microbes. There's some fascinating things
that we can do. Integrated farming is one of the
simple ways of being able to usethe land in its entirety without
having to do all these crazy things that we do with it.
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And the production, the reduction of CO2 during those
processes is absolutely huge. So anyway, take a look at it.
Integrated farming, one of the thing, one of the very simple
things that we can do to make a huge difference now, but we have
to convince the farmers to do it.
That's the whole problem. We'll work on it.
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All right, everybody, Espavo, thank you for being with us.
I'll return next week or next day next time out and every two
weeks with a new one from basically I can't remember who's
on the schedule, but we'll have we'll have some really we've got
some really interesting people Ithink you're going to love and
they're they're coming in prettygood now.
So we'll we'll keep this going here and share it with your
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Music. Hi everybody, glad you're with
us. Thank you for being here today.
You know the back story podcast,we try to bring you some
interesting people. A lot of times these are people
much like you that have decided to step into the work and
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sometimes met with great success.
We've seen a lot of people that have, we have actually been
instrumental in starting or thathad been around us in the
beginning that had just exploded.
So it's been marvelous to show these to you and show you how
people are working and what that's what that's like.
Every so often I will take some time out and from the
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interviews, we got some incredible people coming.
I can't wait to share it all with you.
But every time it's in a while, I'm going to take some time out
and just kind of bring you up todate on the things the group is
saying. They're saying a lot of things
right now. They talked even more just
recently on in June 29th on the Spirit Cast Live broadcast.
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We're working with this particular subject also in Light
Master right now, the first two Light Masters of the Month and
to be able to do that. So what I'd like to do during
this time together is to simply bring you the opportunity to to
work together and to kind of share with you a little bit of
what this is from my perspective, from what the group
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has talked to me about, because there's quite a few things that
are changing that they are that they're talking about quite a
bit right now. One of them in particular is
about the earth. The Earth is going through a lot
of changes right now. I'll tell you a little bit about
what they're saying the E TS aredoing and what they're doing.
I don't know where they were going into live channel today or
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not. I don't know that we'll just
have to wait. Sometimes they tap me on the
shoulder and they get, they justget out of the way.
See, we'll take it from here. So I, I don't know, we'll just
have to wait and see. That's that is absolutely
truthful, though. That's the kind of part of the
way we work with things. OK, for in the time being, I'm
going to get settled over here and we will kind of bring that
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in, allow them to kind of take over if they want, but I want to
get in position so I can just kind of relax and talk to you.
So welcome today. Glad you're in the Back Story
podcast. Like I said, I do have some very
interesting people already linedup in the books.
We'll also be bringing back a few of the people that I really
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enjoyed and that really there's so many times, so many people
just mesh with the work. They it's just been incredible.
So we've had a few of those. I'll be able to bring that back
to you and tell you kind of what's coming out from a larger
perspective. Now.
Let me tell you where we're at. The most important thing that I
can tell you today is that the group is talking a lot about E
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TS, but they're not calling themE TS.
They've described this in several different locations,
including light mass, recent light master courses,
particularly in the recent lightmaster courses, they've been
talking a lot about that. And what that is, what they
basically say about our our friends and our parental races
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is that there are 4 parental races on this planet.
In other words, those are beingsthat were here at the beginning
of this stage of humanity. And I will tell you, we've
gathered before as spirits. We gathered before as spirits on
Mars and we inhabit it. And I say we, that's the large
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we, we basically inhabited Mars for a while.
The three sisters came together.They gave a very interesting
story about carbon dioxide, how there was a they were Earth
needed carbon dioxide and it wasloaned from the two sisters, the
two other sisters, Venus and Mars.
So anyway, they've got this interesting story about it.
There's no, I haven't been able to find any actual background of
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that or any astrophysics that supports that.
So right now it's just a story, but it's basically about how
Earth started and what took place in the beginning.
We had parental races, we had races that helped form these
body forms and help to evolve them in different ways.
Are we part of evolution? Yes, we are.
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But there's some huge missing links.
We took some jumps. Where did they have help yet?
Yes, first of all, many of thesebeings have been with us a long
time. There were six parental races in
the beginning. There's only four of them left.
Yes, war does happen in other parts of the universe.
Unfortunately, there are four ofthese parental races left.
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These are some very caring, caring beings.
I will tell you that there's a lot of incredible love that's
coming from these beings. When I get to experience them,
the group has shown me them several times.
I don't actually interact with them or channel them per SE, but
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when I get to see them, it's like I get to see them doing
their work. They're very dedicated and what
they're doing. They're here to focus on
different things. You know, we've all got this
fear. Well, what happens if they're
smarter than us? What happens if they're, you
know, what happens if they're going to take us over?
Well, I thought they were. And they had the technology,
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didn't they? They could have taken us over a
long time ago. And in fact they did.
That's where the start story of the Garden of Eden came from.
Anyway. Other situations we'll talk to
you about in another time. But they've been talking a lot
about these beings lately. Now, they're not the only E TS
on Earth. There's many of the group said.
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There's over 141 races of ETS living on this planet,
interfacing with the planet. Sometimes, sometimes staying,
sometimes not. How is that possible?
Well, you know, I'm a bit of a scientists myself.
I take all the science magazines, all the astrophysics
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magazine, all the quantum mechanics magazines.
I'd love to keep up with it because the group, and I'm
reading some of these things, the group says, see, this fits
right into what we've been telling you.
And here's what it looks like onthe larger scale.
So I'm able to integrate a lot of that stuff.
And I know many astrophysicists who have the same opinion #1
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when they look out in the sky, they know that there's other
life out there. Just the sheer numbers of
galaxies that we have discovered.
Galaxies like like ours and likethe Milky Way.
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We're going to merge with Andromeda down the road too.
That'll be fun. Other fireworks anyway.
Basically their entire galaxies have been found.
There is absolutely no doubt that there's other life in the
universe. From all these astrophysicists
that I know, where they come up short is saying, well, do you
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believe we've been visited by astrophysicism?
Right away They jump into a belief system.
A linear belief system comes from their training, comes from
their schooling, comes from everything else.
A basic Newtonian timeline, which doesn't fit.
What group has talked about recently is that these are
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beings that know how to shift dimensions.
Now it wasn't that long ago. It was only a couple months ago
we did a seminar called 5th dimensional healing, excuse me,
multi dimensional healing. And it was really at the
breakdown of how dimensions work, how things work, the
things, you know, how it, how itall, how it all comes together
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and how it's in multiples of 12 and, and all the other aspects
of it. So it's really fascinating way
to cover all that. And in that, of course, we
talked a little bit about the processes that we're starting to
see the interactions of the ETS.So where astrophysicists come up
short, as they say, yes, we believe there's life in the
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universe, but we don't believe it's actually visited us.
It has no way. We know from our training that
nothing moves faster than the speed of light.
Well, that's true in our dimension.
Now, what if there are other, and we've talked, the group has
talked about this many times. What if there were other
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timelines running right next to ours, vibrating just a little
bit differently? Would you cross each other with?
Occasionally they do cross and then they come back and they
cross again. And we've, we've even celebrated
some of these timeline crossings.
So this is the illusion of linear time and dimensionality.
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So when does this usually happen?
Usually happens at night when you're sleeping.
One of the greatest times that you can fall into another
dimension of time. Your conscious brain gets
relaxed long enough to let go. And especially in the R.E.M.
state as you're coming back intothe world, you can actually jump
into another dimension of time. That's when you have these
incredibly vivid dreams that many times don't always make
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sense, but you remember them every detail about them years
later. Many times those are actually
jumping into another dimension of time and space.
What if people could do that intentionally?
Well, that's actually what the group says we're looking at.
The group says we're not lookingat extraterrestrials, we're
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looking at extra dimensionals. And that's what they've started
to call them. They're calling them EDS instead
of ETS because they're basicallyliving in a dimension right next
to ours. But they've learned how to tune
their frequency to be able to jump into our world and jump
back out. And that is what why the group
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calls them extra dimensionals. That takes all the challenges of
the astrophysicist away that say, and nothing can travel
faster than the speed of light. Yes, that's correct.
But you can jump dimensions and since time and his illusion,
there's a lot that's going to becoming on that from the group
down the road, but not now. It's too confusing, I know.
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So anyway, all that stuff's going on.
So now they're calling them E DSand they're calling them extra
dimensionals. And they have said something
from the beginning, from the beginning of their work, when
they started talking about E DS recently, this was probably only
about less than a year ago, probably 8 months ago, nine
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months ago, we started talking about extraterrestrials in the
job that they're doing, things that are taking place, how they
are involved with our politics, how they're involved with our
technologies. A lot of things actually came
from them. Even though we think we come up
with these great ideas, they're actually dropped into the
subconscious mind and see who grabs it first.
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So there is all kinds of interesting things that are
taking place that are seeded. We have been being seated for
quite some time now. Where are we with everything?
Well, the group says that those 4 parental races, keep in mind
there's all kinds of parental races, all kinds of E DS out
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there and they have different focuses.
None of them are trying to take us over or turn us into a slave
race. OK, It's not, that's not needed.
OK, you don't, when you evolve, you don't need slave races to do
your dirty work. So anyway, basically it's, it's,
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it's a different type of situation.
So where are we with the whole process?
Well, they said that there were 4 parental races actively
working on planet Earth right now.
And they talked to, they talked a lot about this about a year
ago. And they basically said that
they're here, they have been here.
They've never really left. But there's a concerted effort
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on planet Earth right now. I assumed it was because of all
the craziness that's going on with politics, all the crazy
wars that we're having, all the the, the nonsense things that
are taking place that don't really pan out or make sense.
And I kind of assumed that was it.
And the group said, no, that's not it.
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They're not here to work with humans at all.
They're here to work only with the Earth.
There's a critical aspect of theEarth herself that needs to be
adjusted for her to remain in orbit the way she is.
This is a real serious thing. They haven't talked about it.
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They told me over and again thatthey are here to work with the
Earth and they're having successwith working with the Earth.
I don't know what that means. It doesn't really mean much to
me just to hear those words, butrecently they've come out with
something new and they wanted totake it a little further as to
what has taken place. Apparently a milestone has been
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reached in the E DS work with planet Earth.
Something has happened now that can change the trajectory of
planet Earth and has a lot to dowith the work that these 4
parental races did on planet Earth already.
And it's only over the last several months that this has
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happened. But let me explain what's taking
place. We have apparently, and I had to
do my research on this because Ididn't quite understand it.
I know how things circulate having to do with the jet stream
and how things move around in the air, how the particles from
the Sahara desert fly in the airand actually feed all sorts of
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plankton which produce oxygen onthe earth.
That the interconnection of manyof these crazy things that take
place. I know how that works and I
wasn't that familiar with how itworks below the ocean, so I had
to do some research. But that is where the E DS have
been working. Now there are many times that go
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back into the early 20s where craft spacecraft, we'll simply
call it, have entered into the water many times.
There's been a lot of things that have surfaced, people
saying, well, they have bases down there.
They have bases that they refresh and they turn the
seawater into their, into, you know what they need.
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And they, they get all their, all their information, they're
going down there and all this stuff.
That's not quite the way the group sees it.
Yes, they are multidimensional. So they literally can shift
their vibration a little bit anddisappear from your view.
It doesn't mean they're not there.
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It means they're vibrating at a different range that you cannot
see. And a lot of things have been
taking place under the water with planet Earth.
So especially over the last fiveto six years, these EDS, these
our parental races have been working in the water a lot.
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You may even start to see more of that because they're starting
to let themselves be seen. They've realized that even
though they made agreements to keep it from 1, government
didn't want to know that they were talking to the other
government. So that, yeah, it's all about
power and money. It's real simple.
Follow the power, follow the money, follow the struggles.
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You'll see where it goes. And unfortunately, the E DS are
wrapped up in it many times. But this time a call went out
that was much more important than all the small BS.
And that was from the earth herself.
She was in trouble. It was one of her systems that
were stuck. I'll explain it very basically,
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I know very little about it because I had to do my research,
but it's basically called the, it's called the global ocean
conveyor belt. And what it does is it does the
same thing that I described in the air, how the air is
distributed all over the planet through the jet stream and
different aspects of being able to take it in different places
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and how it's working and how it's changing with global
warming. While that is also taking place
with this as well. It's happening in some very
fascinating ways that are starting to uncover very
quickly. So apparently this conveyor belt
system is made to distribute thehot and cold temperatures all
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over the planet. It actually regulates the
temperatures of the planet by being able to bring the cold
water from certain levels and take the hot water from other
levels and distribute them in different places.
It's a fairly simple system thatgoes into motion.
However, because of some of the things that have taken place,
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particularly the melting of the ice caps, which has brought a
tremendous amount of basically clear or unsalted water, fresh
water, into the oceans. What that does is that takes the
heavier salt layers and brings them down.
There's a separation in the oceans now where the salt, salt
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water is down here and the freshwater is up here and that
has clogged these conveyor belt systems.
This is what the E DS have been working on and particularly and
they have now reached a level where they have actually they
they going to see some success from this.
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Now, what does that mean exactly?
What's going to take place? Does that mean global warming is
going to stop? Not for a few years.
You're looking at a freight train.
You want it to stop. You want to slam on the brakes.
Right now you can, but it's going to take several kilometers
to stop. It's not going to stop right
away. It's moving very fast with a lot
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of mass behind it. The same is true with the Earth
and her evolution. You're going to continue to see
global warming increase. You're going to continue to see
records be set on pounded Earth for the near future and near 3
to five years after that time, things should start to hook in.
The conveyor belts are working again.
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It'll take that long to start toget things in motion again.
When they do get into motion, you will say see things start to
change. Now, here's the reason we told
you all of this. When they start to change,
whether it's three to five yearsdown the road, whether it's
tomorrow, when they start to change, they have two options.
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It can change slowly or it can snap and change very quickly.
Either way, humanity is enteringa new Ice Age at the end of this
run, and that will be facilitated partly by releasing
this conveyor belt and putting it back to normal.
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I was going to be entering that type of situation anyway, but
the whole conveyor belt, as I said, has basically been jammed
up, has not been working properly.
Don't believe I was not able to find science behind that saying
that this is what the group is telling me.
I have seen things talking aboutit.
I have seen recent studies and recent things, people talking
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about a coming Ice Age again. Let me explain what they're
talking about from the group's perspective.
One of the things that the grouphas talked about is this mini
Ice Age. Apparently in the, I think it
was the late teens or early 20s,we actually had a mini Ice Age
on planet Earth. It mostly affected the upper
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parts of North America and northern Western Europe a lot.
It was really, really, really cold.
It wasn't Ice Age cold where we were trying just to survive, but
it was really uncomfortable and made life very difficult.
We are liable to see that one again.
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That one is what the group callsthe mini Ice Age.
It can last anywhere from 10 to 15 years and then we can start
going back on a fairly normal cycle.
The Holocene is gone. Holocene is a 10,000 year period
where the temperature only movedup 1° up or down.
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That ended. You're past that now thanks to
global, global warming took careof that very quickly.
So so did a lot of things. You're on track, go we're on
track, the group says. With helping with a lot of
things we do. There's a lot of confusion out
there, people saying no, we still need oil.
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We still have to have oil to do this.
We still have to have oil to runthese things.
Yes, you built a society on oil.You're going to have to have oil
for a while. But the more that you can be
conscious and to work with new battery systems that are coming,
those can be huge with being able to make electric cars more
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viable. And you Start Stop playing the
games with tariffs, you'll find that they're plentiful and
really help to really help to tomove things in a global fashion.
So those are things that the group has been talking about.
Now what happens if it moves very quickly?
Then we enter a full on Ice Age and it could last for quite some
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time, not just a short 15 years.We are at the precipe of a new
Ice Age and we how we experiencethat will have a lot to do with
what the Earth experiences between now and then.
That's the reason the group wanted to have this message.
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They want to let everyone know that right now your work, your
efforts with working with planetEarth, whether that's saving
water, whether that's recycling,whether that's picking up trash
on your walk in the woods, whatever it is, everything's
going to be amplified quite a lot because you have
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capabilities of changing that right now.
A little bit of help from this side of the veil and human side
two planet Earths will allow herto shift more comfortably rather
than take a snap movement and fall into an eye rapid Ice Age.
When is this going to happen? We still don't know.
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You might be able to postpone itfor a very long time, may be
able to avoid it all together, although I don't think so.
I think you'll experience the cooling in some fashion.
How far down the road, I don't know.
But there is another side to this whole cycle.
And you'll be hearing scientiststalk about this conveyor belt.
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This is starting to move again. And we say that because
basically it was, it was jammed up, not functioning the way it
does. It wasn't causing the global
warming. The global warming is still in
effect. It's still going through the
same processes. And like we said, you're going
to still see years ahead of you that are going to be in in
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record heat, but you will see it.
You will see a little light at the end of the tunnel there.
And that can be huge. And the more that you work with
planet Earth right now, the easier it's going to be for her
to make that turn gently and softly.
The E DS that are here, the extra dimensionals that are
here, they have. There's some incredible beings.
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Will you hear some horror stories?
Because horror stories sell things very well on the
Internet, more so than the actual truth.
Many times. Are there E DS, are there, Are
there the bad guys that are trying to capture you in some
way? You know, are there bad humans?
Yes, there are bad humans, but the reality is most of them that
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are here not only don't mean youany harm, but are really here to
help. And they are.
And that's something to keep in mind.
As we mentioned, there's 141 different races right now of
different E TS on Earth. We're talking about the four
mainlands. You probably know them.
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We don't need to describe them all right now, but they're the
four main ones that humans know because they are the remainder
of your six parental races. They're what's left, and they're
here to keep it going. They don't want this to end.
They had to come first. Work with the planet.
Now they'll come and try to plant some seeds, which they
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have done many times. Please do not put them on a
pedestal. Do not pray to them, just take
the information and use it and stop giving the power away to
everything else around you. That's their message and that's
the idea of what we want to do here with the Back Story Podcast
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as well. We'd like to bring you as much
of this information as possible.I know it's difficult to
understand some of the things that we talked about.
Multi dimensionality was very challenging for me to grasp in
the very beginning. Now I'm wrestling with this no
time concept that I still have not managed to wrap my brain
around in any way. They basically say that the time
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is an illusion that we create onearth.
And funny part is with the JamesWebb telescope, many physicists
are starting to say the same thing.
So anyway, there's a lot of interesting things that are
taking place in different ways, but I have not been able to wrap
my brain around that. Until I do, I can't teach it.
So we will be talking about thatanother time.
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Maybe. In the meantime, these are the
things I wanted to bring you up to date on to kind of share with
you a long story about what's taking place on planet Earth
having to do with our parental races.
How will they help us in the future?
Well, we know from the past because this has happened many
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times. We know that in all races, on
all religions, all of them have talked about the great floods.
We know this. And then one religion over here
says, well, you, you humans weren't good enough, so we had
to wipe everybody out and start over again.
OK, so sounds pretty judge mental to me.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure that quite fits in
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my room, but that's OK. Then you've got all the other
aspects about the Garden of Eden, how it was all prepared
for you. You just had to follow some
simple rules which you couldn't follow.
Thank you, Eve. Absolutely feminine empowerment
was absolutely needed to break the bonds that we had at that
point that released the bonds and set us loose in the planet
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of free choice. We have so many things that have
taken place as a result of that.Now they're all eyes of the
universe are on planet Earth because we were the planet of
free choice. Not that we've reached the
highest level of technology. We have reached the highest
level of evolution because we'reactually moving from the third
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into the 5th dimension. And that just does not happen,
but it's happening to us. We're very unique, we're very
special. We're not perfect.
We're still going to make lots of mistakes, I promise.
But the group is very excited about these new presentations
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from the E DS. What they've been talking about
will bring you more of that coming forward, what the
capabilities are. Hopefully we'll bring some
science reports. Hopefully we'll be able to see
some science reports talking about this conveyor belt moving
again. I haven't found it yet, but I
have didn't quite know where to look for all of it.
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But anyway, we'll we'll find some of that.
I'll bring that to you in one ofthe one of the Back Story
podcast. Like I said, I've got some
fascinating people coming up foryou.
I can't wait to share some of these people with you.
Susan Miller will be here. Stewart.
Stewart will be with us. If anybody knows, Stewart is got
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this incredible voice and I can't wait to bring him back on.
We've we've had quite a few withwith Stuart Pierce.
So anyway, we'll be bringing several people on that I think
you'll love incredible energies.And also, if you know people
that you'd like to see interviewed, send us an e-mail.
You can send your emails to questions at aspavo.org.
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We'll pick them up. Sometimes we'll answer them in
the Q&A that we do on on on YouTube every month.
And if not, if it needs a personal question, we'll answer
it there. Does take us a little while to
get those, but questions at aspaba.org is the best place to
do that. We're expanding in a lot of
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ways. We hope to.
We hope to see a lot of views coming up soon.
We'll be expanding in several areas.
Hope to do a seminar coming up in the Netherlands, which we
have not done in a while. We're planning on doing one more
in in Belgium this year. And I'm planning to go to
Russia. We're planning to go to Moscow.
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I'll give you more information on these things as we go
forward. We can make a difference if we
just follow the lead and we justone step at a time.
That's the whole purpose of whatwe're doing.
OK, next month, next week, I'll bring you that.
We're we're doing these every two weeks because we have so
much material coming in, but I wanted to take this time off and
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explain a few things to you. You will hear this word EDS
again, because basically they'rea know how to shift this
dimensional reality and how to do some things that we don't
know how to do. The group's also talked about
anti gravity based, the basics of how it's created.
It's created the same way that we shift dimensions at 90°
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angles. There's some basic
understandings of that that I don't even know, but I'm trying
to grasp it. But then they call it the
orthogonal matrix. It's how you shift from one
dimension to the other or bleed into a dimension if you wish.
There's different ways of working with these things.
We did bring those up in multi dimensional healing and we'll
(31:52):
bring them up again at some point.
All right everybody, thank you for being with me today.
Thank you for letting me ramble,able to kind of just bring you
the energies from the group froma different perspective and tell
you some of the fun things. They've been saying that we are
evolving on this planet and I know we're here in times of
transition. I know it's crazy.
(32:13):
I know sometimes I want to throwthings at the television, but
the the reality is we're here for that reason.
We can help rebalance this planet as these systems break
apart, we're the ones that can help to fix it, and that's part
of why we're here. So keep all that in mind and
don't lose faith. There's so many wonderful things
(32:36):
that we can do to start changingthis Earth.
It's one thing I will mention that I will bring up on another
one. The group shared with me one
thing that can change the pollution levels of planet Earth
very quickly. It's called integrated farming.
It's where you do not till the soil, ever.
(32:58):
You don't kill the microbes in the soil by trying to kill it
and then have to put the fertilizer back in later because
you killed all the microbes. There's some fascinating things
that we can do. Integrated farming is one of the
simple ways of being able to usethe land in its entirety without
having to do all these crazy things that we do with it.
(33:21):
And the production, the reduction of CO2 during those
processes is absolutely huge. So anyway, take a look at it.
Integrated farming, one of the thing, one of the very simple
things that we can do to make a huge difference now, but we have
to convince the farmers to do it.
That's the whole problem. We'll work on it.
(33:43):
All right, everybody, Espavo, thank you for being with us.
I'll return next week or next day next time out and every two
weeks with a new one from basically I can't remember who's
on the schedule, but we'll have we'll have some really we've got
some really interesting people Ithink you're going to love and
they're they're coming in prettygood now.
So we'll we'll keep this going here and share it with your
(34:04):
friends. Please feel comfortable with it.
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