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April 19, 2023 87 mins

Joining us on this week’s episode is Casper Sage (real name Cooper Shelton), a rising artist, songwriter, producer, and multi-instrumentalist from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. While barely out of his teens, the 21 year-old student at Nashville's Belmont University carries himself with the emotional depth and philosophical wisdom of a man twice his age, writing with a sense of nostalgia shocking for someone still in the prime of their youth. 


Over the past few years, the innate authenticity of this young artist's work has started to gain recognition with fellow students and fans alike, leading to sold-out shows, millions of streams, and coveted playlist placements.


Topics covered in this episode include (in order): 

  • The college debate for aspiring professional artists
  • The difference between "who" and "what" you are
  • Cooper's musical roots, including an all-star cast of middle school music teachers
  • Why creating the best work only matters if you can effectively get people to engage with it
  • The ideal balance of input vs. output as an artist
  • Amateurism vs. Professionalism
  • How to be intentional with your work and life
  • How to keep yourself accountable
  • The romanticization of depression (especially, among young artists)
  • The hamster wheel of social media and how to sustainably share your work
  • Why he doesn't mind the Frank Ocean comparisons
  • Must-reads for aspiring artists
  • And much more


As always, whether you’re an artist yourself, an entrepreneur, someone who works in the arts, or really just a human being interested in self-development, healing, and actualization, this episode has something for you.


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