182: UFO Retrievals at Site C-6? Vet Shares His Experience

Bill is a 10+ year veteran of the US Military and was stationed at Eglin Air Force Base at one point during his tenure, where he witnessed unusual events around the powerful radar array known as Site C-6. Indications were that Site C-6 was being used to monitor UFO activity and possibly send crash retrieval teams in the right direction. Bill also had his own UFO experience growing up, which has helped shape his views on the subject.

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Episode Transcript

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And as soon as I walk inthe door, I see this big mission
statement written on the wall that sayswe monitor all space activity, terrestrial and
extraterrestrial from planet Earth. I justgot a real uneasy feeling about being in
there. What's up, you,beautiful people. Welcome to the basement,

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hangout. Coming to you from somewherein American suburbia. My name is chatting
with me as always is Bob,and I'm here already in present. Yes,
you are our guest tonight is BillCarter. Bill served four years in

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the United States Marine Corps six yearsin the Army National Guard. Bill.
Thank you for your service, firstof all. Secondly, my understanding is
that you've had some experiences, particularlyat Eglin Air Force Base, potentially related
to UFO activity, and so that'show we ended up coming across you and

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your story, and so thank youso much for joining us and imparting your
experience upon us. Yes, Eglinwas probably the most interesting military base I
ever served on. I wasn't expectingmuch of it. My unit actually got
sent down there in two thousand andnine. We were there from July twenty

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fifth to August eighth, tool twothousand and nine. The reason I remember
the date specifically is because I gotan Army Achievement medal for my service while
we were there, and it helpsme recall some of the dates and things
because I've done a lot over mycareer. But when we got down there,

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we basically had two missions. Ourfirst mission that we had down there
was to do marijuana eradication. Eglandis a very big base. I think
it's like the biggest base in theUS if I'm not mistaken. So marijuana
eradication, sorry, marijuana eradication fromthe entire base, well where you can

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find it. Yeah, Okay,we never found any there when we were
there. It was just more orless to keep us busy because they were
getting ready to send us overseas again. I was getting ready to deploy again,
and they wanted to send us someplacehot to get us acclimated to the

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weather and give us something busy todo, and that was the perfect place
to stick us before we did ourwork up. So marijuana eradication was one
and the other one was just todo garrison security on the base. And
on the days that we did garrisonsecurity, you worked with one of the

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Air Force Security Forces people or youwould work with one of their security contract
people. And when we first gotto Egland, they give you a security
briefing about the base. All thesecurity personnel were there, the Air Force

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security forces guys, my unit,and all their contractors were there. And
this guy he came out, Iguess he was the head of security there.
I don't know what his title was, but he briefed the entire bunch
of us and he told us,you know, about specific areas, and

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then he went into talking about,oh yeah, if you get a chance
to patrol with the marine patrol andthe waters outside the base, you might
get see some space debris or spacejoke, and a light bulb kind of
went off in my head. Weall kind of laughed at it at the
time, and then I thought,well, I'm not going nowhere anywhere near

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that kind of stuff because I don'twant to catch a disease or something,
you know, So I didn't giveit any more. Thought we were patrolling,
I guess. A few days laterand I teamed up with a guy.
He was an ex football player likeme, and we were talking shop

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basically, and he was telling mehe a I think it was a punk
returner something for Colorado State. Heplayed for some college in Colorado, and
that's how I remember the conversation,because he was telling me that's what he
did before he joined the Air Force. But he asked if I wouldn't mind
going up here to this radar facilitythat they had to take some things up

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there to them. Now, werode up to Site C six. At
the time, I don't even thinkI remembered it having a name. It
just looked like a radio station onsome country dirt road that you would see.
I mean, it had nothing thatwould stand out to you to make

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it look like some special place orsomething. And we both walk in and
as soon as I walk in thedoor, I see this big mission statement
written on the wall that says wemonitor all space activity terrestrial and extraterrestrial from

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planet Earth. And I just satthere and looked at it, and I
looked over at the guard to myleft, because there's a guard at a
podium on your left when you walkin the door. And he just kind
of grinned at me, just watchingme look at this thing on the wall.
And I didn't really know what tothink about it, but I just

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got a real uneasy feeling about beingin there. It reminded me of an
incident I had when I was youngergrowing up in Georgia, because I actually
had a UFO siding before I joinedthe military years ago. This thing was

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on the ground. I was probablyaround four years old at the time,
and they were having a lot ofUFO sidings in Georgia at that time,
and I'd never spoken a word aboutit to my mother because my mother she
was there along with my sister.And after I left the site and I

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went back to where we were billeted, which was about fifteen miles inside the
base, probably longer. I mean, it took forever to get down there
where we were. I don't thinkI've ever been out in the Boonie so
far at any base that I've everbeen stationed at. We were about a

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few miles from the Army Ranger basedown there. We were very close to
them. And the whole time andI was down there, you know,
I just kept trying to figure out, well, you know, what was
That place just took me back,you know, and brought back some memories
that I had, and then itjust hit me that not only are these

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things real, because I saw onemyself, but the military monitors these things.
So when I hear, you know, some of these representatives talk about
getting extra security cameras in places,that's not true. I mean, they

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can see these things fine enough withwhat they've got. Now that's just for
show. In my opinion, thatradar at Site C six can track objects
about twenty thousand nautical miles into deepspace the size of a grapefruit. And

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it's a pretty impressive radar. It'sone of the most powerful radars in the
world. And I would say probablyabout halfway through our time there, I
was on one of the dirt roadsright around the site and I stopped the
hum V one day and I gotout. I was going to make a

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nature call there and I happened tolook over and I see these guys dressed
in completely black uniforms. They hadblack helmets, their faces were painted black,
and there were probably about twenty guysand they were sitting in two columns,

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about ten guys in each row.And I look them dead in the
eye, and they didn't blink,they didn't do anything. I mean,
I don't know why they were hidingfrom me. I wasn't out there trying
to play war games with them orsomething. But I don't know what they
were doing out there. But whenI got back home and started going through

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a lot of the things that Iexperienced there, it was things this didn't
sit right with me. There.One day when I was teamed up with
another Air Force Security Force guy there, we were having lunch by this runway
and there's a big, huge hangarat the end of the runway there on

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Egglin and I kept seeing these probablyseven thirty seven's taking off there and they
didn't have markings on them at all. They were completely white jets. And
I'd heard about jets like that outin Las Vegas, you know, where

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they have Area fifty one. Sothat kind of you know, made some
light bulbs start going off in myhead about you know, what they were
doing there. And I asked theguy, I said, what are these
planes that keep taking off here?You know when markings? They said,
Well, our nickname for these aresecret squirrel planes is what they called them.

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So a few years went by andI didn't really, you know,
bring up the subject again until abouti'd say almost a year ago. I
finally I talked to my mother aboutthe experience we had when I was younger,

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and I asked her if what Iremembered, you know, did she
remember, and she could not believethat I had the memory to recall all
of that, and I said,well, it was pretty impressive. It
was something I'll never forget. Thething had landed probably about eighty yards from

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where we were, and we livedin a little trailer park in Danielsville,
Georgia at the time. And whenI saw it, you know, I
couldn't stop staring at it. Itwas it had like a glow from a
fire, because when I initially sawit, I thought, you know,

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the field was on fire. AndI remember my mother trying to make me
get behind her, and she tookus inside the house and locked the door,
and she told me that she sawthe thing land And my mother was
about seventeen years old at the time. She wasn't very young, or she

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wasn't very old at the time,and she said that when she saw it
land, she saw some kind ofhatch on it open, and that's when
she grabbed us and went inside andlocked the door. And I asked her
why she didn't report it at thetime, and she said, everybody down

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there was reporting them at the time, and they were putting people in psychiatric
care when they would report these things, and I just couldn't believe that,
you know, they would do thatto people. But now that I've researched,
you know, people coming forward overthe years, that's exactly what happened

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to a lot of people. Sothat didn't surprise me. After I did
a little research on people having sightings, especially ones that were like close up.
So when I started digging about Egglin, you know, I found out
the name of the place I foundthe picture. What happened was I was

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searching the Internet for, you know, some information about the place, and
I went to read it and Isaw a picture of it and it was
had the name of the place outthere, and I was like, that's
it. It's the place. Andit was under a subrettit titled a machine

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porn or something. And these guyswere talking about the radar and its capabilities,
and I talked to a guy.He was actually a radar technician there
from nineteen eighty one to nineteen eightyfour, and the stuff he went into
tell me about was pretty amazing.He talked to me for a while,

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and when I tried to get himto come out and, you know,
say more about it. He justkind of went cold on me. But
he told me one of his friendsthat worked there, a guy by the
name of See. I wrote itdown here. He was a sergeant John

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West that worked there. After heleft in eighty four, he said the
guy had committed suicide. But therewas never a body. Nobody ever saw
him. He had worked for somereally big companies, some that I had
never heard of, like Singer CareFought in New Jersey, Rockwell the Joint

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Tactical Information Distribution Systems, And whenhe worked at Site C six, he
also worked in the tactical operation roomsthat was in contact with NORAD in the
Shienne Mountain. And he said thatduring his time there they definitely track UFOs

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and he was there. He saidthat it got so bad. He said,
if you went to sleep at thecontrols, the guards would come in
there with guns and escort you outof the building. And he said that
they asked him to stay there.And one night they had brought it like

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a flatbed truck in after they hadtracked something, and they brought it to
the site covered in like a flatbedtruck. And he never got to see
what was under it. But hesaid that those tracking systems had been in

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place for years. So anytime oneof these representatives say they need to adjust
their apertures and their security cameras,that's that's all bogus. So they can
see perfectly find anything they want tosee. Well, let me, let
me pull on a couple of threadsif I could. So, you said

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that those sensors can see about twentythousand miles out to space. The moon,
if I remember correctly, is abouttwenty four thousand miles away, So
that means that they're seeing debris comingin to our vicinity past the moon.
Is like, could that be nonUFO debris, It could be satellite you

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know, debris like you said,space junk or yeah, they have,
Yes, they see all of that. Plus you know the things that actually
move across the sky, you know, things that are intelligently controlled. And
that's one thing he was saying thatyou know, not all of that is
just you know things poor in andnow the atmosphere that's just like space junk.

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And you know, when they toldus about the space junk or space
debris, the guy had a biggrint on his face when he told us
about that. In my mind,I think he said that as a disclaimer
in case something happened while we werethere, because what would happen if something

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did crash in the water there.They would have to have military police and
other people to quarantine off the areaand have people go in and get these
things. And my big question was, why does things just crash there at
Eglin? Why not in your backyardor my backyard? You know, why

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is that place so specific? Andyou know, that's just something I don't
know. If they have something thatcan bring things down there, that's something
that I'm looking into because I haveheard rumors that they could possibly be able

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to bring things down with emp weapons, But I don't know that for sure,
but I do think it is peculiarthat it happens enough that they briefed
us about it when we got there. Now, on the on the guys
that were wearing all black and hadblack face paint and helmets and whatnot,

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you said they were in two rows, now were they or were they just
out? They were about I wouldsay maybe ten yards off the side of
the road, and I heard likea twig break or something that got my
attention because I didn't see them.The only way that I saw them was

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to look in that general direction wherethe sound came from, and I look
over and they're sitting down like Indianstyle cross leg and like ten guys in
each row. And I looked themdead in the eye and they didn't even
blink, and I thought, well, maybe they're playing war games or something

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and they don't want to be seen. But it was really odd because there
was nobody else out there playing anywar games that I saw, because we
were out there on the dirt roadsjust circling around picking guys up, and
I didn't see anybody else in thatarea at the time, but those guys,

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So that was that was a littlestrange scene. They were they were
part of a they were part ofa Chrish retrieval program could be And when
I heard Chris Sharp talk about oneof the groups that he found there,
I think it was the first SpecialOperations Component Maintenance squadron there to Alan,

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I don't know if they could bepart of that group, because he's the
guy that posted in the Liberation Timesthat they found who these retrieval teams belonged
to, what unit, So I'mnot familiar with what those guys dress up

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like when they go to field tacticalwork. But as possible, I do
know that they have people ready togo at a moment's notice, just like
they told us, you know,we would have to go out there and
get this stuff if it crashed outin the water. And I wasn't too

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I wasn't too curious or too thrilledabout going out there and touching something that
crashed from somewhere. I mean,I'd already been scared once, you know,
when I was really young seeing somethingand it just brought back some you
know, crazy memories for me,and my curiosity is about this stuff is

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not as great as most people's becauseI've seen it firsthand. I know it's
real, and I do know thatthe government tracks these things from there now
on that front, on your firstexperience, if I could, you said
you were four years old, soI can understand if your memory is a
big cloudy. But you said itwas like the field was on fire.
But did you see the craft itself, Like what shape was it? It

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was like a I don't know,like a like a oblong top craft.
And one of the other memories Ihad was the next day my sister and
my mother and I we crawled througha barb war fence. There was a
barbed war fence that separated the littletrailer part we lived in from the big

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field that was behind it, andit left a huge burnt circle in the
ground the next day when we wentout there, and I can't remember,
you know, remembering us going outthere to it, And my mother told
me she had the hardest time gettingme into the house because when I saw

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it, I it to me.I got. I know, some people
get different feelings from you know,when they describe what they see when they
see one of these things. Butmy feeling I had was that it was
just something dark, like I mean, I'm not talking about like the color.

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I just mean like I got likea dark feeling inside when I saw
it. Yeah, demonic, yes, yeah, if you could, if
you could describe it that way,And it stayed with me for years.
I mean because when it first caughtmy eye, I just thought it was
a fire. And then I sawit like kind of drift over the field
a little way, and it wasbehind trees. When I first saw it,

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there was like a thicket of trees, and I thought, even at
a young age, I thought,well, somebody needs to put the fire
out. That's what I kept,you know, thinking in my head,
somebody needs to put that fire out. Then I thought we were going to
get burned up by it, youknow. And for years I never never

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even talked about it. And Iguess my mother had thought that I'd forgot
about it, but I never forgotabout it, and she actually drew a
picture. We just finished a documentary. There was a film student from NYU
that came here and spent three daysinterviewing me and my mother, and my

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mother actually drew it, you know, in detail about you know, what
it looked like. And these thingswere following people like my family got to
a point where they were seeing themso much they would carpool to work before
carpooling was even a thing. Mygrandmother and my mother they would all ride

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together to work because people were seeingthese things come over their cars at night
there. And it was a hugeUFO flout then. And we also had
one here where I live now.About nineteen eighty nine, we had seeing
in Fox I mean, every newsmedia out that you can imagine, all

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the major ones were here about twelvemiles from here, and if you've ever
heard of the five UFO, theyhad sightings here. Yeah, they had
sighted here for about two or threedays straight and they captured it. There's
actually some good clear pictures online ofUFOs that were caught in five at that

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time. Now, I really didn'tpay attention to it back then. I
didn't really get any close up,you know, views of that one.
But there were a lot of peoplethat descended to this area looking at these

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things, and I'd always put thosememories, you know, way back in
my mind for a long time,and Eggland brought it all out. Eggland
just really you know, it wasicing on the cake where I was just
like, no, I can't ignoreit no more. It's it's real.
And well, if I could askwhen you were at Aglin, when you

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were at Agland, did you everget an opportunity to see what was retrieved?
No? No, we were justtold that it does happen there by
the security people, and you know, I believe it's one of those need
to know things, like you know, they just told us, like as

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at a disclaimer in cases something thatdid happen and we had to go there,
and you know, I would nothave given that any more thought until
I went to the site there,and when I went to the radar side,
and I think I'm the only guyfrom my unit that actually got to
go to the site, and Ijust happened to be at the right place

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at the right time and put boththese things together. And so you were
saying you were going to the saitingyou there's like a suitcase that you were
bringing to the site. You don'tknow what it was, No, I
think it was. I think wewere taking food or something up there to
one of the scientists, because theseguys came out in white lab coats to
get whatever it was. The guythat I was with, he had something

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he was going to give him,and it was just like out of a
movie or something. If you've everseen Independence Day. This scientist guy,
he came out with a like awhite lab coat and he got I think
the package that the guy I waswith brought to him, and I want

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to say it was food. Andhe looked just like the guy the scientist
on the Independence Day movie. Iremember thinking that, do what the guy
who played the fly, No,not Jeff gold Bloom, the scientist guy,

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oh, the crazy guy. Yeah, he looked just like that guy.
I mean, he looked pretty pale, you know. And this is
uh, the guy who played datain Star Trek the Next Generation. Yeah,
that's him. Yeah, look,he was always pale. So let
me ask you a question. Sowe have advanced tech that possibly is shooting

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things down from space. Is itpossible that this is advanced weaponry that is
very much you know, compartmentalized wherethey are able to, for example,
target a Chinese or a Russian satelliteor whatever happens to be flying within you

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know, I shouldn't say flying orbitingin the same area, like trajectory of
Egglin, and they're able to usethat advanced weaponry to bring those satellites down
and then go retrieve them to figureout what is the tech that those other
those adversaries have. Well, youknow, I sent it a video link

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to you guys. I don't knowif you guys got a chance to see
it. It was from Lee Hayley. It was nineteen ninety four interview and
she claimed that she was shot downwhile she was inside a UFO and she
woke up on the beach close toEggland Air Force Base. Now, if

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that's true, she's the only personI've ever heard claim that she was actually
in a UFO when it was shotdown, and she claimed that the Air
Force tried to set her up afew times because they didn't know what to
do with her. So how didshe get in the UFO? She was
abducted or what she was abducted?Just what she said, And she said

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that she tried to pinpoint where shewoke up on the beach, and she
walked from Navarre to Fort Walton somewhereon the beach, and she came to
the conclusion that it was outside ofEgland Air Force Base where she woke up

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outside this craft. And she wrotetwo books. And you know, I
remember hearing that interview years and yearsago, but never gave it another thought
until she mentioned this thing about therewere boats in the water and there were

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people out there with hazmat suits onthe beach cleaning this thing up, and
like marine patrols out there when shewoke up, and that just you know,
had me, you know, thinking, you know, all the things
we were told when they got there. I mean, it was just really

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coincidental. And after what the radartechnician told me about I believe there's some
validity too. A lot of this. I don't know about Lee Haley.
I haven't heard anything about her inyears. I heard later on she had

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changed her story that maybe the AirForce was influencing her to make this up.
I don't know, but I knowwhen she initially gave her interview,
she said that she believed she wasshot down in a UFO craft close to
Egglin Air Force Base and they didn'tknow what they were going to do with
her because she was on board thiscraft when it went down and she believed

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that it was shot down. Soso now when she went down in the
craft, like, how was sheretrieved? Like she was in the she
was in the crash site and somebodygot her or so they were all waiting
for yes. She she said thatthere was there were people in hazmat suits

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cleaning up the area when she cameto, and she said there were people
out in the water like in boats. And I was telling him, you
know, that's what kind of youknow, made a lot of bellstock going
off in my head. Was youknow, the fact that she had mentioned
there were people out in the water, you know, retrieving parts out of

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the water, and it was thereis it a lake or I don't know,
much about the geography around Egland.Is it a lake or is it
like a Now you got to gofrom Mexico right there? Okay, all
right, yeah, so the oceanbasically, so where is Yeah, Eggland

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is in Fort Walton, Lord Walton, Florida. It's a beautiful place.
If you were going to hide somethingin the military, that would be a
perfect place because where the radar facilityis is about fifteen miles inside the base.
Uh, doesn't look like anything significant. You wouldn't think that it would
be as powerful as what it isjust by looking at it. And I

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think that's the whole purpose is forit to hide in planside. Basically,
I looked a little bit about it, about the radar array you're talking about
today, and even Wikipedia says thatactually, you know what, let me
let me pull up the Wikipedia entryon it. Here we go. Site

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C six, Eglin Air Force basedSite C six is a United States Space
Force radar station which houses the ANslash FPS eighty five phased array radar associated
computer processing systems and radar control equipmentcommencing operations in nineteen sixty nine. The

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ANFPS eighty five was the first largephased array radar. The entire radar system
is located at a receiver transmitter buildingthat is supported by the site's power plant,
fire station, two water wells,and other infrastructure. As part of

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the US Space Force's Space Surveillance network, its mission is to detect and track
spacecraft and other man made objects.Now this is Wikipedia in Earth orbit for
the Combined Space Operations Center Satellite Catalogwith a peak radiated power of thirty two

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megawatts. The Space Force, Nowremember Space Force is new right with Trump
claims it is the most powerful radarin the world and can track a basketball
sized object twenty two thousand nautical milesfrom Earth. That's crazy. The most

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powerful radar on Earth in Florida,yep. And to look at it,
you wouldn't think it. I mean, just by looking at it, you
would just think it's just some oldshack in the middle of nowhere. It
was a real surprise to me thatit was out there. But if you
wanted to hide something without drawing alot of tension, that would be the

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place. I remember I was onone podcast one night and I started talking
about Egglin and these people come outof nowhere saying, oh, Eggland,
there's nothing there. There's just familiesand you know that's where people just raise
their families and it's just a greatplace to live. And I said that

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also tracks extraterrestrial objects. I said, have you ever been to the site
and the guy said no. Isaid, well, I rest my case.
You know. It's just when Ifirst put it on Reddit, there
was a guy who text me,or he sent me a message and he

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said that I was bordering on nationalsecurity issues because I said that it was
there was a skiff there. AndI said, look, I'm not saying
anything everywhere, right, I waslike, I haven't said anything that you
can't find yourself. I just pointpeople in the right direction. I mean,

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every every base has many, many, many many skiffs. So that's
the secret. You got to havea place where you have a secret meeting,
you know, and tell people,or just a place where people work,
you know. Right. Yeah,So but on that if I,
if I, if I could,I want to ask you because your military,

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you served our country and so doyou ever feel like coming out with
this information and talking about it goesagainst your military? What's the word I'm
looking for, Bob secrecy sworn.Well, yeah, something like that.

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You know, nothing I have sharedis anything that was a violation of a
non disclosure agreement or anything like that. You know, if they wanted me
to keep my mouth shut, youknow, they shouldn't have never let me
in the facility without signing something.And that's just the way I feel about

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it, because I had something happenwhen I was younger, and then when
I find out that the military actuallymonitors these things and they're keeping it from
the public, it made me mad. Actually, And you know, my
knowledge isn't secondhand. You know,what I saw I saw in my own

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eyes, and I spent ten yearsin the military and two branches of service.
You know, I don't think I'mtoo crazy. I managed to graduate
college somehow, so you know,yeah, yeah, I just hear you.
I just think that the government,you know, has come out a

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few times and said, yeah,we have anomalous aircraft in the sky,
and then they put out a reporta few days ago saying there's no proof
of anything. So they just thereconstant contradiction. Did you hear about Arrow's
report? No Ero came out witha report that basically rolled up all of

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their findings over the last X numberof years that they've been doing this.
Remember Sean Kirkpatrick, he retired,et cetera, et cetera. Their report
basically said there's nothing, there's noevidence, there's no UFOs, there's nothing.
That's what their report said in whatwas it like twelve pages? Yeah,

(40:00):
I think it was sixty five ages? Oh was it? Yeah?
It was alone. It was alot of pages of nothing. And they
said some of the references they gotfor some of the people in it,
like Senator Harry Reid, they hadlisted him as being from New Mexico and

(40:21):
he was from originally from Las Vegas, Nevada. Yeah, he was a
Nevada senator. Yeah. It wasa poorly written report, and that's what
made a lot of people mad.But see, here's the beauty of all
this stuff. The government is denying. They know that all these people can't

(40:42):
speak because of their NDA's. Sothe moment these people go out and spill
the beans, they're going to comeout and you know, try to frame
for it. So unless they reallydo get some kind of whistleblower protection,
these guys have no cover for them, you know, to come out and

(41:02):
say, you know, hey,this is where they keep things, this
is where they have UAP stored fromyears ago. You know, when I
put that on Reddit, you know, I try to have people keep in
mind that I put that about Egglandbefore David Grush came out. I put

(41:29):
that on there before the Senators wereturned away from Egland. I put that
on there before Chris Sharp had postedhis story November twenty ninth of last year
about the retrieval teams there. Somy story I came out with about almost

(41:55):
a month before David Grush even cameout to the world. Would you be
interested in the Congress Congressional protection tocome out to the I would. I
would be to Congress to say anythingthat I know, because, like I
said, I am not. Theyjust cut his feed, Bob, Yeah
damn, and I'm black. Theydon't want him to answer that question.

(42:19):
They don't want him going to Congress. Yeah damn. They were on it
too. Jesus, that was likeperfect timing. You're still looking at us.
Well, his feed is obviously frozen. I'm gonna do. What did
he say, nature? Nature calls? Yeah, that's not what he said,
but something like that. He said, he said, nature calls yeah,

(42:49):
m m m, all right,you're back. Hey, So I
wanted to ask you. You mentionedthat it felt dark. You were only

(43:16):
four years old, but you stillhad that feeling that it felt dark at
four years old. Now in yourheart of hearts and your gut? Is
that because you were four? Andyou know, when you see things you
don't understand when you're four, itcould feel dark or do you think that
it was actually dark? Well?I think that at any age you have

(43:37):
this innate ability to sense danger,you know, just like animals. I
licking it too. You ever seena dog turn its head when it doesn't
understand something, Yeah, like whenit's trying to figures out. That's what
I felt like when I saw it, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
And so we've had I don't knowif you, I don't know if you

(44:02):
watch our show or listen to ourshow, but we've had people on here
who are on the love and lightside of things that UFOs are like a
higher consciousness aliens or a higher consciousness, and they just want us to like
reach that higher level of consciousness aswell. We've had other people on here

(44:22):
who say that, you know,cattle mutilation, human mutilation, human abduction,
et cetera, et cetera, it'sa dark thing. We've had people
like Grush say that there are darkaspects, We've had some of the other
talking heads. So what do youwhat do you think is going on?

(44:42):
Like is this a positive? Isit a negative? What is the what
is the point? And I'm sorryto be peppering you with questions and not
letting you answer one. But theother question I would have is what what
were they doing landing outside of yourmom this trailer park? Like, what
is the purpose? You know whatI mean? Well, I think that

(45:07):
they wanted something there. I knowthat my mother and her boyfriend they were
in a car one night. Idon't know if it was before that night
or after, because she told me. And this is why she doesn't like
to talk about it. A UFOwas over their car one night. My

(45:30):
mother and her boyfriend were in thefront and his brother and his date were
in the back, and he wasstaring up through the back window and he
said, that thing's over us.I think they had seen it earlier,
you know, just kind of passingby. And a few years later the

(45:58):
guy came up missing and they neverfound him. To this day, I
had found him. Jesus. Herobituary or his obituary and I was reading
it and said that his brother hadstill been missing after all these years.
And you know, my family definitelyfeared when they were going to work and

(46:24):
they were carpooling. And I dothink that some of these have different purposes
and maybe they're not from the sameplace. You know, some could be
good. I know my experience.You know that that's the feeling I got.
And when I went to the radarside there at Eggland, I got

(46:47):
the same exact feeling that I didwhen I was four years old. It
hit me like a ton of bricks, and I you know when you have
deja vu, it was, itwas like DejaVu, and it now you
were if you were a military guy, you you you dealt with the colonels

(47:13):
and the you know all that stuff. They're typically smart guys. They want
to do the right thing. They'repatriots, et cetera, et cetera.
Do you believe that the pulling ofthe wool over the collective eyes is because
you know, a lot of theconspiracy theories are, well, we'd get
free energy in this and that,and they just want control. Or is

(47:36):
it that there's something extremely negative aboutthe phenomena that they are trying to hold
back from us and trying to inone way or another battle against that's the
right way to put it. Butyou know what I'm saying, Well,

(47:57):
I know the government they always bedon a shore thing, and I believe
that they have no control over it, and that's why they don't want to
address the issue, because they reallydon't know what it is. I think
they still are learning what these thingsare. And my honest belief, and

(48:21):
you know, I've really been digginginto this over the last two or three
years, you know, trying tofigure out from a military mindset, you
know why they wouldn't acknowledge it,And it's because, you know, some
people could accept it, some couldn't. And I think that they know the
public would want an explanation, andthe moment they admit to it, they're

(48:45):
going to have to do a lotof explaining for things that they don't really
know the answer to. That's justmy opinion, right for a lot of
years. Yeah, probably definitely true. I mean, I'm sure they know.
I'm sure they know a lot maybethat they pin down, but I'm
sure they're just afraid to say it, you know, And you know,

(49:08):
they've over the last year or sohave came out and admitted to it.
But then they turn around in thisreport a few days ago and say that
they have no evidence that these thingsare real after all these businesses forward.
It's crazy. I would just pointout that, as you know, everything's

(49:31):
highly compartmentalized, it's possible that Aerohasn't been given the information and they literally
think there's nothing, there's no evidence. Meanwhile, the people who are really
in the know are not divulging anything, and they just have nothing to go
by, right who knows behind theclosed doors of Congress? And you know

(49:57):
what they've brought forward if you goby what they Grush has said. He
said he had forty witnesses that couldbring you, you know, evidence and
say, hey, these things areright here. You know, Bill,
where are those people? Ye are? And where are those people? Where
is the evidence from Grush? Andthen it goes back to you know,

(50:17):
if any of these people talk,they're going to jail. Where are all
these people? That's that's what's frustratingabout all the talking heads, including Grush.
It's always you know, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming.
Nothing ever comes, so wouldn't theybe protected through Congress? Now if they
came through and talked, they're supposedto be, but nobody. Yeah,

(50:38):
somebody's going to have to come forwardwith something, you know, of substance,
because if they don't, this isgoing to go away, and that's
what the government wants to happen.And if these people in the you know
that work on supposedly work on thesecraft and they're out there, somebody's gonna
have to follow on the sword andbe brave enough to come forward and risk

(51:00):
it all, and somebody's gonna haveto offer them some So whistle blower protection.
So if you get whistleber protection,do you still get your salary or
not? Do you know what dowe know that I know we've talked about
before we assumed they did. Yeah. I don't know the answer to though,
because if I was gonna give itone hundred and whatever, I think
whistleblower protection at a very basic leveljust means you can't be prosecuted for divulging

(51:23):
top secret info, which under normalcircumstances you can immediately be prosecuted and put
in jail. And so that's whatit protects you from. I don't think
I don't know, but I don'tthink it guarantees your pension, your salary,
your reputation. I don't think so, because I was like, honey,
I'm going to give it one hundredplus thousand dollars or whatever the fun

(51:45):
out now say shut the fuck up, right. You know, here's something
that doesn't really make a lot ofsense to me at all. You know,
Loue Alisondo left the military I thinkwith seventeen years in, and Grush
was around that many years, andalso when he left. What I'm trying

(52:07):
to figure out is I've never seenanybody get out of the military with that
much time in. It's like theyused to tell us, you don't go
from employment to unemployment. What madethem get out early? What made them
get out early, you know,and disregard those benefits? And you know,

(52:29):
I hear, well, you're sayingseventeen years though, seventeen years early.
No, I'm talking about if theyhad finished twenty years, if they
had accomplished their twenty year mark,they would have been able to retire with
full benefits. And my I can'tfigure out why they left the military short

(52:50):
of their twenty years when if theywould have just stayed in two or three
more years, they would have gotall their pension. You know, their
family would have been covered for lifeunless they made a deal for something else.
Now something happens. Books, there'sthe Soul Foundation, there's all this

(53:12):
stuff they're doing, getting paid formaking speeches. When I hear people say
lose Alixando's life has been destroyed,I say, well, he's got a
book coming out and he's working asa contractor for the Space Force. So
it doesn't sound to me like hisjob is too destroyed, right, And
is he working as a contractor forSpace Force? I didn't. That's that's

(53:37):
what I forget. Where I sawthat where he is, Yes, it's
real, and well I thought,well that the government was too mad at
him, I wouldn't think that theywould still give him a job somewhere.
You know, the contracting is different. I'm not trying to cast his versions
on all these people that I don'tknow, and I don't know the situations
that they're in, but you will. But no, I'm just saying,

(54:00):
like, as an outside observer,you could say that they started the Soul
Foundation, sol what the hell isthat? It's the first time I ever
heard it that's the what's that scientist'sname who's come out for a while,
Nolan, Gary Nolan. Gary Nolanstarted the Sole Foundation, or he's one

(54:20):
of the founders. And of courseevery time there's one of these major UFO
talking heads like Grush or cold Heartor Elizondo, they all end up being
part of the Soul Foundation. Theyhave these big conferences where everybody comes,
they sell thousands of seats and theytalk about all this stuff. And I

(54:42):
can only assume it's making money.It's a nonprofit, but nonprofit doesn't mean
the people who run it don't geta salard. They get paid. They
get paid. It's just that theorganization itself doesn't make it quote unquote profit
not taxed. They're not taxed,correct. So you know, until they
show me the fucking money shot,it's still just people talking, you know

(55:06):
what I mean. Excuse my French, but you want to see an alien
blown this sload. I want tosee that fucking the goddamn evidence, dude.
And I don't want to see ajellyfish UFO or a chandelier UFO.
I want to see a ufl youknow what I mean, show me the
money. You come on Bob doit. Yeah, I wish I could.

(55:27):
Yeah, you know, I tellmy fiance a lot that I wish
I had never seen what I sawwhen I was younger, because Eglin would
have just have been, you know, another experience. I thought it was
pretty interesting, but I wouldn't havegiven it much thought more than what I
saw there. And I really believethat people like that that are coming out

(55:53):
are doing it because the government won'ttell anything about all this stuff. They'll,
you know, even if it istrue to them. I just think
that they will never admit to it. Even if you drug a UFO out

(56:15):
here in front of the whole worldof government, I think would still say
we don't have enough evidence. Ithink it's very important that people are critical
about anything that is coming out andnot be goible about anything because there are
a lot of silver tongue devils outthere. There's a lot of people that

(56:36):
say, you know things and theyturn around and they're selling books and you
know, getting shows and things likethat. I'm laying down the gauntlet for
you. Come back on this show. Let us ask you the tough questions
and answer them. Damn it,we love you. So who is your
favorite silver tongue devil, the guywho released the chandelier. No, that's

(57:00):
not it's my least favorite. Iknow. Well that's what I mean.
I'd have him on the show,but I would ask him tough questions.
What's his name? I can't remember? Corbel? Josh, Josh Corbet,
Josh, I made that up.It is Jeremy. See, I told
you I knew it wasn't right.I forgot his name for a reason.
Yes, Jeremy Corbel. I stillhave him on the show, but if

(57:22):
he's willing to take tough questions,I don't think he is. I'd love
to get George Naples. All theseguys go on these shows and they just
get softballs and and I'll be honest, we give softballs too to most people.
But these guys who are making aliving off of this, they need
some hard balls and they need toanswer. I agree, I think cold
hard. If there's anybody who canhandle it, it would be him and

(57:45):
George Knapp. Dude, well,George Knapp. That's how Corbell made his
money. He somehow tied himself toGeorge Knapp. Right, if you're going
to put yourself out there is paperor telling you all this stuff. Yeah,
you know, they need to bemore forthcoming, and I think,
you know, you should be ableto answer you know, questions. I

(58:09):
understand about protecting your sources, butyou've got to actually start giving a little
bit at this point because right nowit's put up for shut up. You
know, these uh people in thegovernment that shut it down with this report
that came out last week. Ithink that the balls in the other court

(58:32):
at this point for them to startbringing out evidence, if they got what
they say they have and what theyknow, I think it's time they start
moving on it. Yeah, nowit's time. Yeah, put up or
shut the fuck up. I justwant to throw it out there. It's
possible. There there is no evidencethat the government has nothing. They don't

(58:52):
know what the hell is going on, and they have nothing to present,
and all these people are grifting.I don't want to believe that, but
I have to. I have toput it out there as a possibility.
Dude, I guess. But forsomeone to go through, Yeah, that's
what I can't tell. But they'reselling books. Noah, did you grush
write a book? He? Itold someone the other day, I said,

(59:17):
when lou Elizondo finally drops his book. I'll be curious to know if
it says any more information than whathe's already put out in podcasts. No,
yeah, probably it won't. Itwon't. Are you going to buy
it? Wait? Yeah, I'mgonna wait for somebody to is probably sitting
there at the check out Kenner thatcan't wait for those books to drop.

(59:40):
And you know they're gonna be allover the internet saying what they learned from
the book. And I'm gonna buyit. I'm gonna read it. I'm
gonna read it word for word onthis podcast from finish to end, I
mean beginning to end. And thenI'm going to get a cease and desist
letter from his people and I'm goingto say, well, hey, you

(01:00:00):
won't come on the show. Sothat's what happens. Hey, wait his
local library for free. You havehad some pretty impressive guests. I was
watching the Daniel Shean interview. Yes, that's not That's what I'm saying.
We've and that got smart man,she is very smart. We got people
that aren't scared they come on,But then there's these other people that apparently

(01:00:22):
are scared they won't come on.So what can I say? If you
know something you should say something.I agree, Yeah, I agree,
and thank you for you, thankyou for bringing out your experience. Man,
Yeah, for sure, I'm gladyou guys had me on the show
Man. You guys are great,and you guys are asking some great questions.
I think you need to keep going. I mean, you hear a

(01:00:44):
lot of people talk about you know, Fox doesn't have anything on there,
CNN doesn't have anything about the subject. And then the same people that are
saying that are not given you know, the people that are following them any
evidence either is like, yeah,you're exactly right. That's the problem.

(01:01:05):
So why would Fox are ceeing ncover it when they're gonna get nonsense?
So I have a question for you, off the record or on the record,
if you're okay with it. Whoare you voting for the next presidential
election? Is there an independent?So it's uh, that's how we all

(01:01:28):
the Kennedy guys. Did you knowhe has to because Democrats canceled. He
doesn't stand a chance unfortunately, butif he did, I would vote for
him. Made up my mind yeton that. I know, Bama's Trump
Country, and it's hard with JoeBiden as old as he is you know.

(01:01:50):
So I just Trump ain't too farbehind him, I know, but
it just doesn't seem like when theyspeak, you know. But I mean
Trump also says some crazy things.My son was my son was like,
uh, we listened to the whatwould that ship was the other last week,
you know, the State of theUnion, Stay of the Union in
the car. We're in the carfor hours and hours hours, And my
son was like, why would anyonehe can't talk, why would we for

(01:02:14):
him? And he's pretty young,and I was like, and he's like
Donald Trumps so much younger. AndI was like, actually he's not.
But he speaks in you know,without h so he speaks with that palsey.
He doesn't sound like an old man, but he still says crazy au.
So they're at the age where theydon't care what they say, you
know, they just say whatever.And I just hope one day we have

(01:02:38):
somebody in there that, you know, really cares about what they're doing instead
of you know, just trying toplay certain groups and all this stuff.
I mean, we've got homeless peoplewe need to deal with here, you
know, in this country. Iwas about homeless myself, So I've got

(01:02:58):
a soft spot in my heart becauseit took me almost ten years filing from
my VA disability to finally get it. I mean, I was raising my
son by myself, and I wouldn'twish that on anyone. I'd had multiple
operations on my shoulders and a fewother places, and I couldn't work like

(01:03:24):
I used to when I was younger. You know, I just turned fifty
in January, and I really wentdownhill over the last five years. And
I've got another surgery coming up prettysoon. So you know, people aren't

(01:03:44):
sometimes not working because they're lazy.Sometimes they just can't do it, you
know. I mean people are workedto death in this country. I think
hard work's a good thing, butnot when you're working people to death and
they don't have no way to putfood on their table and feed their family.
Yeah. So, but as undecidedvoters, which I don't know if

(01:04:06):
you are, Chad, But whatadvice do you have to us is you
know we're a little younger. Youdon't look your age, so congratulations,
But any advice. We weren't inthe military that I know you, Chad.
No, I was not. Ihaven't told you about my time,
but I was not either. ButI can't talk about it. Yeah,

(01:04:29):
I think there's a lot of bigissues that. I mean, we're the
wealthiest country in the world, andthere shouldn't be any people out there starving
on the streets, right. Ijust think that, you know, something
could be done about that. Imean, if I was a billionaire,
you know, as long as I'vegot my jeep and I'd take the top

(01:04:50):
off my jeep and go riding inthe canyon and all that stuff. I'm
happy. It doesn't take much tomake me happy. If I had that
kind of honey, I would definitelyuse it to help someone else take a
better lie for themselves. This iswhat I said last week. Remember,

(01:05:10):
you're gonna end the United States hungerfor money. I don't know you saying
that. Who are we talking toa couple of weeks ago. Uh oh
No, it is Preston Dennett,and we were talking about reaching the next
level of sort of like when hewhen he does his thing where he goes
out of thee But yeah, that'sremember, and there's people like And I
said to him, can somebody whois a billionaire and buys a three million

(01:05:35):
dollar supercar instead of a one milliondollar supercar and take the extra two million
dollars and go help a bunch offamilies. Can that person ever reach heaven?
That's what I'm talking about, Andhe just said it. Yeah,
but they don't want to have thethree million dollars supercar then, and they
don't need a three million dollar superthat's correct, that's correct. Honestly,

(01:05:56):
Which one of those is going tofulfill you more? I mean, as
long as I have a bed tolie in, food to eat, in
a car to drive, I'm richand a good woman. Or no,
you get out yea that too?Yeah, woman, I've ever met my
life and I thank God for everyday. And well you are a rich

(01:06:19):
man, aren't you. That's thething. Rich is not actual. Month.
We've been together about eight years,you know, and before we got
together, my son and I werealone for about three years. So when

(01:06:41):
he is eighteen, he is inhis first year of college. You made
it very, very nice. Sowhat's your what's your favorite if it was
your birthday? Oh no, yeah, he's not married, but he made
it to eighteen. What is yourfavorite meal if it was your birthday or
like a special celebration pizza, oh, pepperoni? Or what do you eat

(01:07:04):
like what do you like Supreme?I'm with them on them with black olives
are without and see I do Ido? I diet for three days.
I've lost about twenty pounds. We'vebeen on this dot since May of last
year. We do what you callcardiac died for three days. Like we

(01:07:25):
we eat like vegetables, just asmall portion of meat and like a bull
egg for breakfast, a pizza drytoast. We do that for three days
and then the other four days youeat what you want and it's worked out
great. I love it. Itmakes me enjoy eating food again. So
do you eat pizza for four daysor do you switch it up? No?

(01:07:48):
I no, I switch it up. I have my pizza probably about
once every two weeks or something likethat. But Pepper Supreme with black as
he was like red bearren That's myfavorite. Yeah, is one of the
I agree? What about some ribsman, some brisket. I'm more of

(01:08:13):
a rebby guy. When I wasin the military, I had three mo
OS's. I was a food service, a shooting coach, and a military
policeman. So I got to cookingschool for about three months, and some
of my friends actually went to culinaryarts school, and I always enjoyed going

(01:08:34):
to their house because they could whipup some amazing meals. One of my
friends he had graduated from Johnson andWales and his wife was Japanese. He
had met her when he was stationedin Japan, and it was always interesting
to go over there and see whatthey were going to have for dinner.

(01:08:55):
I loved being invited over there.It was nice. That's awesome. So
do you cook a ribi in thepan or you do on a grill,
like a grill grill. I'm thedesignated grill guy on Sundays. We have
big meals every Sunday and the wholefamily comes here and we have a meal
over Sunday. That's awesome. Whenwe have steak, I'm outside usually flipping

(01:09:20):
them. You know, it doesn'tmatter rain, sleet, or snow.
I'm out there flipping them away.Oh I hear that. We're the same
way. Yeah, it's beautiful.I'm glad you have that special place in
your heart. I do. Anduh, you guys drink one from me.
I haven't had one in years.Oh yeah, I drank two for

(01:09:42):
you. Well, I think wemay drinking six or seven for you.
So I'll have one more. Whatdo you what are you guys drinking?
There? What do you have?What are you guys drinking? These are
Seltzers, hard seltzers. So weused to drink, well, I used
to drink person a lot of beer, and then we both used to drink
a lot of beer. My doctortold me to stop drinking anything brown,

(01:10:04):
and then he loved the Seltzers.I got on them and I haven't stopped.
So I started drinking Seltzers because it'slike it's still alcohol, but it's
like, you know, one hundredcalories. It's like water, basically water.
Yeah, you know, we don'tknow what so they don't say like
vodka. So I don't know whatalcohol is in it, but it seems
to some it's some like funky assyou know, corporate chemical vodka alcohol.

(01:10:30):
But whatever, it makes your peekclear. That's what mas well, all
of it does. And eventually Ismoked. I smoked for about twenty years
and I never thought I would quit. And when I met my fiance,
she was like, why do youneed that? And I was like,
you know, you're why do Ineed that? Yeah, you're smart?

(01:10:54):
Yeah. Well, when I wasin Europe, I'd learned this technique about
quitting smoking. It worked, andit was when you're trying to quit,
if you go through the steps inyour head about when you want a cigarette,
like, for example, if youpicture yourself every time you want a
cigarette, you picture yourself getting itout of the pack, putting it in

(01:11:18):
your mouth, reaching in your pocket, getting your lighter, and firing it
up. And every time I wanteda cigarette, I would do that,
and pretty soon after a while,it just I didn't have the urge anymore.
I just got up one day andit was just going through the motions.
Well the ritual is nice, yeah, yeah, true. So can

(01:11:40):
we quit drinking by like pretending we'repopping the top maybe taking a sip?
I mean, not that we're tryingto quit, but I mean, yeah,
I guess definitely. It's good forthe kidneys. Yeah that's right.
Yeah, what is drinking seltzer?I don't know, no, so yeah,

(01:12:00):
yeah, Like I remember, Ihad old, back, old relatives,
and they still give like the eightylate eighties person who's like getting helped
bathing like a you know, oneor two beers with his meal at the
night because it says it helps memove the I don't know something I don't
the liver kidneys, okay, itkeeps the liver working, or thinking of

(01:12:21):
the kidneys, your kidneys out there, you go like a good butt.
Like I always think about the dudewho like runs ten miles a day,
eats salad and then has a heartattack at like age thirty nine. I
don't want that. It's usually spermbuild up. But yeah, that's that's

(01:12:41):
also like an ailment. Yeah,I think you gotta have fun. Man.
You got a balance, right,you do. You've got to have
something that you really enjoy, youknow, if you don't have something to
blow out. Stay I stay onthe road during the summer. I take
my top off my jeep. Ileave it off the whole summer because I
have a garage, I can parkit so I don't have to cover it.

(01:13:02):
And if it rains, you know, we just take the other car.
But I stay up in the canyonusually during the during the summer and
we just have a ball. Myfiance, when I first got it,
she thought she wouldn't like it,and I said, hey, don't knock
it till you try it. Nowshe's she likes to go more than I

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do. At the end of theday. Sometimes I can't my arms and
she'll be like, come on,we got to go again, you know.
And it's a really really nice outhere. I mean, Alabama's got
some really nice places. Yeah,it's a beautiful a Yeah, I'd like
to go visit. So Bill,we do this thing at the end of

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the show. We call it wordsof Wisdom. Uh, you can go
first or Bob can go first.What's your choice? Mm hmm. I
let Bob go first. Okay,So mine's not gonna be as deep as
maybe yours doesn't have to be thisdeep. But I always use the app
for a subway they get buy oneget ones. Is it only on the

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app that you get to buy oneget one? I'm not sure. But
when you order it, it's thereand you can pick it up or eat
it in whatever it's wait. Basically, when you show up in ten minutes,
you get in front of the whole. So there used to be a
huge line in our subway locally,and I used to get pissed off,
like shit, like I don't wantto stand this the goddamn line. I'm
trying to get quick food, butsemi quote unquote healthy, not McDonald's.

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So they have buy one, getone. I order five subs. I
have a family of five five free. No buy one, get one gives
you one one, but if youjust check out place your order. I
finally do another one. So Ido six subs and I pay for three
now instead of fucking five subs topay for four. So they don't they
don't bother you when they don't givethe people there just like see something print

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out and they do it, Iassume, assuming the manager or owner is
not there, right, because that'sno, they don't give a ship.
I mean, I don't think theygive a shit. So some of the
ones that give a shit aren't goingto give you the But so it's only
persist pitting locations, you know.Okay, So I was at one one
time and I saw this lady getfour subs and it was like eighteen dollars
and I was like, what thelike what's up with that? Like how'd

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you get that? And I wasjust ordering in line and she was like,
no, you gotta do the buyone, get one, But she
never told me keep doing it overand over. Well, you just put
in two orders, three orders whatever, you know. I finally did this
weekend I worked. I was ingas. I can literally hear my ship
printing. When I hit submit,like twenty seconds later, I heard like
some weird beep, and then atprinting, and then I finally did three
orders by one get one for sixfor the price of three. Damn,

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that's pretty nice. There you go, save some money. Bogo. I
wouldn't get one. It's something bogo. Over and over. You guys made
me think of you know, we'retalking about, you know, some of
these people in the preyers, youknow, bringing all this stuff forward with

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no evidence or anything. And Ithought about Mark Twain and he said,
if you don't read the newspaper,you are uninformed. If you do read
the newspaper, you are misinformed.I like that. Like that, So
then the question is what do welisten to? The basement hangouts? Just

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keep your eyes in ears? Whatall you have? You know? I
mean, I think that critical thinkingis a dying thing in this country.
And I think, you know,people who are not afraid to ask our
questions are true people, you know. I think if you have the knowledge

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and ability to answer something, youought to be truthful about it. You
shouldn't hide it. Yeah, Andyour words of wisdom. My words of
wisdom is or if your name isRaw Cold Hearts or Jeremy Corbel or lou
Elizondo or David Grush or any ofthe other myriad UFO talking heads, and

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you want to answer some questions,not just you know, have people kissing
your feet like usual, Come onthe basement, hangout and lay it all
out there. Then people will knowyou're for real, because that would be
nice. We'll drill in. Weyou know, we have no skin in
the game here, no right,so get your ass on here. That's

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my words of wisdom to Ross.Hey, you guys, You guys are
the types of podcasts I like becausethe small podcast to me, seem like
they're more after the truth than youknow, some of the bigger ones that
you know, to me, don'tbother me with the truth. I've already

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made up my mind type of deal, you know. And I just think
I would rather pay more attention toa podcast that wasn't you know, subscribed
to by millions of people. Imean, yeah, dare you call Bob
small? So would you be ableto come would you be able to come

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on again and watching some UFL videosor would you be able to coming on
again to giving commentary in the future. Sure, I'll give my opinion.
I love watching a lot of theones that are online. And you know,
these days, it's so easy tofake one, you know, and

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who knows what's real and what's fake, you know. I mean that's the
beauty of debunking a lot of thisstuff too, is that even if somebody
showed you a real one, somebodyover here could say that's fake. You
know. Yeah, exactly exactly.It's really a slippery slope. Bill.
It's twenty one hours plus six minutes, so we're gonna have to call tonight.

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I appreciate you coming on. Nicemeeting you, man, and keep
up the quality podcast. Man.You guys are doing a great job.
I'll see you later. I appreciatethat. Hey, don't hang up yet,
Okay, I want to say thankyou for your service and service basement
hangout. Oh kill me ever,ever, ever, ever, The bathing

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of the and and and and