Ready Player 4

Have you ever unplugged your landline to sneak in a late-night gaming session, or found yourself waxing poetic about the blocky graphics that once captivated our hearts? This week, we're taking a pixelated stroll down memory lane, revisiting the golden age of gaming where RuneScape ruled and Atari was king. We start off with belly laughs and a touch of mischief as we unwrap the age-old rivalry between Xbox and PlayStation, revealing holiday release strategies that still stir the competitive pot.

The joystick joy doesn't stop there; remember when the PlayStation 3 introduced us to Blu-ray and the revolutionary concept of free online gaming? We unpack how these game changers and others shifted our gaming priorities as we marched, somewhat reluctantly, into adulthood. You'll be nodding along and chuckling as we contrast the immersive epics of our youth with the pick-up-and-play distractions that now fit into our grown-up lives, all through the lens of our enduring love for this dynamic form of entertainment.

But hold onto your controllers—our chat culminates in a heated bracketology battle, pitting iconic titles against each other to crown the ultimate video game champion. Will Halo's legendary status topple the enchanting world of Zelda? Can Tetris out-stack the competition? Join us for laughs, debates, and a dose of nostalgia as we celebrate the pixels, polygons, and passion that continue to shape our lives and the gaming community at large.

Episode Transcript

James LaGamma (00:10):
random game that came up when I was looking at
this topic.
Did you guys ever playrunescape?
Yes, remember that dude yes,there's a guy on the computer,
middle school, yeah, that waslike fourth grade to seventh
grade I remember that game wasyes, it was like super hyped up,
but I don't, I don't like no,no one really remembers it like

(00:30):
the hype went out and that wasthat I would tie up my parents
phone lines on runescape forhours because we still have
dialogue yeah, is that acomputer?
game yeah, yeah, runescape thatshit like popped all yes,
actually I played line runner.

Ryan Selimos (00:43):
It was like knights, dragons, all that back
in the day.

James LaGamma (00:46):
Yeah, and you had levels and you could achieve
your personal score or whatever.

Ryan Selimos (00:51):
I remember one summer I got the grades.
You're going to have twodifferent conversations.
You need to get the premiumRuneScape package.

James LaGamma (00:57):
I remember that was the first game.
This is how you're supposed torun podcasts.

Kenny Massa (01:01):
Keep going, we're talking.

Ryan Selimos (01:09):
That was the first game that I actually debated on
a like paying for something,because you could pay up for
like certain things and that youhad to pay to go to certain
areas.

James LaGamma (01:13):
Yeah, on the map.

Ryan Selimos (01:14):
Yeah, that's cool, that game was different, so you
guys did not play runescape nahdid not, I was outside playing
can you?

James LaGamma (01:19):
like still play that today.
Is that a thing?
Is that a website?
Let's see, let's find out.

Ryan Selimos (01:22):
I'm gonna go to it .
We were also outside playing,so you go to some fucking crazy
I just I you never played videogames growing up no, not, not
like that.

Jonny Strahl (01:30):
I just played, like I guess, first console.

Kenny Massa (01:33):
I really remember playing nintendo 64 I remember I
had my dad's atari yeah, atari,and uh sega.
Yeah, he, he had like the gunfor it and again, remember
everything's wired back thenthere's no fucking bluetooth,
that wasn't invented yet.
And he gave it to me and let meplay it and he had like this,
this like duck hunting game, andlike I really enjoyed it.
It was fun, I had a good time,but my creativity as a young

(01:55):
child got the best of me.
I found scissors.
I wanted to be able to takethis gun anywhere, so I cut the
cord.
A whole boy was my father,pissed.

Ryan Selimos (02:09):
What game was that ?

Kenny Massa (02:11):
This is part of his Atari, like his fucking Atari,
which was probably worth a bunchof money now, but that specific
piece.

James LaGamma (02:16):
Was it like an orange gun.

Kenny Massa (02:18):
I think it was more red and gray but they did have
orange ones too, so anyways, Icut the cord.

James LaGamma (02:24):
I was like, you know I wanted to play cops and
robbers and shit.

Kenny Massa (02:29):
Oh did I piss him off.
But my favorite childhood gamewas space invaders.
Fucking could play that gamefor hours me, my buddy alex bro,
it was like the first videogame, I think that introduced
like the boss levels that inlike the other one.
That we liked was asteroidsloved asteroids it's like
they're floating around.

Ryan Selimos (02:49):
Asteroids are coming like shooting them so
Jason Vader's had bosses poorlike Mario.

Kenny Massa (02:53):
I don't know, I just I feel like that was my
first introduction to it, so Idon't know a space invaders
earlier than Mario.

Jonny Strahl (02:59):
No, yes are we talking like Atari, like night?

James LaGamma (03:03):
well, obviously yeah, it was on atari.
Yeah, so it would probably beyes I think so 70.

Kenny Massa (03:07):
I think atari was like dig dug type of time I
think so, yes, and centipedeyeah that's like early, yeah,
1976 or 77, yeah, so I I thinkit was one of like the first
like boss level things that youwould shoot all the things and
all of a sudden you had thisgiant alien ship that you had to
blow up, and it was.
It got harder and harder astime went on.
Interesting yeah unless I'mthinking that was the
playstation version, which waslate years later.

(03:29):
I don't know.

James LaGamma (03:29):
Fuck it, I have fucking no idea these consoles
have advanced so much since wewere younger, like I just
remember remember, I think itwas uh, it was like maybe
nintendo 64, where you had tolike blow into the thing.

Ryan Selimos (03:42):
You're like to put it in the console so what?

Kenny Massa (03:46):
there's something satisfying about putting in one
of those rather than a fuckingCD that you feel like you just
break it, you just handle it now.

James LaGamma (03:54):
It's like it's all downloads now right
downloads.
But even if you look at likethe Nintendo Switch, the thing
is like the fucking this big thedownloads.

Kenny Massa (04:03):
I hear that there's a huge problem, like you need
massive amounts of storage onthese consoles now, like
terabytes of fucking storage,because some games, the graphics
alone are just it takes up somuch space that you can't
actually keep all your games onthere at once, so you have to
offload a game.

James LaGamma (04:19):
Yeah, you can save all the data behind it
somewhere, like maybe anexternal hard drive, I, I don't
know that's and I heardownloading games takes forever
too I don't play on the newerconsoles, so, but also like the
newer consoles, like thenintendo switch is the only one
that I've played in recent years, like the, the controller is
like this big I think, uh, Iremember hearing that so

(04:41):
routinely xbox, I think hadtheir release, like their next
gen was before playstation cameout, their next gen.

Kenny Massa (04:49):
So, like I think, when that xbox like, uh, what do
they call it now?
Ty, do you know the, the newxbox, what's called?

Ty Moss (04:56):
the tower one, I don't know, it's like the s or the one
s I.

Kenny Massa (05:00):
I know the xbox one was still like a flat box and
then they came out with thetower.
So the tower came out and thenthe ps5 came out.
I heard that xbox strategicallydecided they are going to
release theirs in line with whenplaystation will be releasing
their ps6, and so now there'sgonna be a little bit more
competition in the market.
So, like christmas comes around, that time, what are you buying

(05:21):
, one or the other or both?
That's a lot of fucking moneyyeah, I mean the end.

James LaGamma (05:26):
They're probably I don't know how much is it like
a ps5 now?

Ty Moss (05:31):
like 400 bucks now.

Kenny Massa (05:32):
Now yeah, what were they when they came out?
Like five or six maybe, okaythat's actually a little bit, a
little bit less than I thoughtthey would be.
I thought they might havereached like closer to the grand
mark at that point yeah, ps3, Iremember that thing, that was
hard that was a commodity.
It was the first one that cameout with like web browsing yeah
that.

Jonny Strahl (05:51):
And then they had the blu-ray.
Then they had also like just abunch and the game was the
pixels and whatnot, like it wasjust a different level.

Kenny Massa (06:01):
I think that's when video game consoles are trying
to change the market a littlebit to become more of like a
in-home entertainment system,Almost like what Roku and Amazon
Firestick and all that stuffstarted to become If they would
have been the ones to do that.
Can you imagine?

James LaGamma (06:15):
They probably would have they probably would.

Ryan Selimos (06:19):
Preferred gaming system, Xbox or PlayStation?
Where are you guys?

James LaGamma (06:22):
at I'm of a playstation person than xbox I
was a playstation 2 growing up.

Kenny Massa (06:28):
I had an xbox, the original, then I got the 360 and
then I thought I was a 360 kidfor the longest time, but then
the playstation 3 came out.
Um, I think personally I'mprobably more of a time put into
it, maybe more of an Xboxperson, if you were to think of
it from that point of view.

(06:49):
But I think I have morePlayStation games that I've
played over time.
They're just compatible withboth.
So I guess it almost doesn'tmatter.
It really comes down tonowadays which console you like,
because they only have thatgame.
Like, I would love to play theSpider-Man game, but I don't
have a PlayStation.
I would love to play theSpider-Man game, but I don't
have a PlayStation.
Yeah, I would love to play thenew Spider-Man.

James LaGamma (07:07):
What about?

Ryan Selimos (07:08):
you, I never owned Xbox, I only own PlayStation.
So I'll go there, played both,but definitely way more hours on
PlayStation, yeah.

Jonny Strahl (07:15):
John, I jumped back and forth between Xbox and
PlayStation.
I grew up with a PlayStation,the PlayStation 2.
2, yep, yep, I playstation 3,but more of my friends had xbox.
So I wanted to play online allthat good stuff.
And then that's when I got justobsessed.
Xbox 360, call of duty, modernwarfare 2 is an ncaa 14.
That's all I played.
Those are probably the only twovideo games I really played
growing up after like middleschool was is 360 the best

(07:39):
overall console?

Ryan Selimos (07:40):
was it the p?
Is it ps3, like during our time?

Jonny Strahl (07:43):
obviously they continue to enhance the 360 come
out during the ps3 or just Ithink 360 came out first I will
say, if you compare and I feellike ty could probably answer
this question the best and isprobably the most versatile,
incredible.
Wasn't the reason whyplaystation and their push out
of consoles better because ofall the extended features they

(08:03):
had that xbox didn't have priorto what they are now?

Ty Moss (08:06):
Yeah, they hit a lot.
I remember, yeah, because PS3was crazy hard to get and it was
super expensive.
My dad got one right when theycame out and I came home from
school and I was like you got mea PS3?
And he's like, no, that's mine,that's hilarious.
That's crazy.
But yeah, that had Blu-ray andeverything, and the big thing
for me was it had online as well.

(08:27):
But that was free, you didn'thave to pay like Xbox did, you
could just play online with yourfriends.

James LaGamma (08:31):
Yeah, because they didn't realize what they
could do to monetize it.
That's kind of what I startedto fall off of games, though, is
when PS3 came out, when it wasjust too expensive, and I kind
of started to get rid of thatpart of my like childhood, I
fell off going to college likesenior high school the last time
I played video games now goinginto high school?

(08:53):
I was.
I was already done, that wasalready gone I have to agree
with you, kenny.

Kenny Massa (08:57):
My love and admiration, and hours fell off
after ps3.

James LaGamma (09:03):
Now, granted, like when ps3 launched.

Kenny Massa (09:05):
Yeah, so I I got one, played the heck out of it,
but it's basically once I wentto high school, because I think
ps3 came out right around highschool now.
Yes, I did have an xbox 360 andyes, I did play cod throughout
high school, definitely.
But like, as years kept goingand I kept getting older and
older, I guess I just grew outof video games and so yeah, I

(09:26):
play them and I still love them.
Like I'm nostalgic as all hell.
Like fucking you put spyro orfucking tony hawk in front of me
game over me and lydia.
We will play those until theyare fucking beat to death yeah
I've beat every single one ofthose games multiple times in my
lifetime.
Um, I get bored.
Now, though, video games that'smy biggest problem.
I just I'll play them like Iget this little nostalgic kick,

(09:46):
and then I just I'm like, allright, I have other things I
need to do.

James LaGamma (09:49):
Yeah yeah it's sad because you wish you didn't
have other things to do, so youcan click whatever, but yeah
yeah, yeah just the ranking ofpriorities at uh.
At 30 years old, you can't sitdown on the couch playing ps but
there's plenty of people thatdo ps9, whatever the fuck it is.
Yeah, there's plenty of peoplethat still do that and yeah, I
don't know how power to him.

Kenny Massa (10:08):
Um I mean, my cousin is fucking.
He's amazing at video games.
Yeah, uh, if he could probablymake it a career I think he
would definitely go for it.
Um, but uh, kids have been alot of money.
Yeah, the fucking fits used togo to conferences or, I guess,
tournaments, I guess would bethe right way to put it in
Orlando where they hadcompetitions.

Ryan Selimos (10:29):
I was thinking about that on the ride down with
this topic and like you said,kenny at 30, finding the time to
do that.
But at the end of the day,everyone has what they do to
just de-stress, to release, andwe've talked about it a lot.
We spend three hours watchingsports games.
Right, we spend a lot of timewatching sports where, if we
were gamers, we would find timethere.

(10:51):
So, having both now like for usinstead of watch, or for me,
I'll speak for instead ofwatching say yeah, I can sit
down and watch sports.
I can't go play games.
But maybe if I didn't have thatmy commitment in you, in
wanting to go spend timewatching sports or being
involved in sports then I wouldhave games as that outlet.

Kenny Massa (11:09):
What I found myself as far as boredom with games is
, if I don't have a storyline or, like I always went, gravitated
towards career, you always havelike that category in the list,
career, online play, that kindof stuff.
If I didn't have a career Iwould get bored with the game.
I need to have something that Iwant to see from point a to
point b, like there's an actualend result and then, once it's

(11:30):
done, I'll probably never.

James LaGamma (11:30):
That's why mario kart, for me, was like a
short-lived game, like I canplay mario kart for like 15
minutes and I'm done becauseit's like, that's like a social
thing.

Kenny Massa (11:36):
Now it's like we like playing, drink and drive.
Try to chug a beer.
Um, I've played it in collegeplenty of times.
I've played it outside ofcollege too.
I say we.

Jonny Strahl (11:45):
Oh, on Mario Kart.
I don't know what the fuck youwere talking about Isn't that
what you said.

James LaGamma (11:51):
Yeah, Mario Kart.

Kenny Massa (11:51):
But when you said you like playing, drinking
driving.
I did not understand With MarioKart.

James LaGamma (11:54):
Yes, I was going to get to it.

Kenny Massa (11:57):
I was getting into it, but you guys kept race.
You can do it all up front, youcan do it all at the end or you
can do it throughout the race.

James LaGamma (12:08):
That's cool.
I guess that's fun.

Kenny Massa (12:09):
It's just a fun little drinking game.
That's a very good social game,correct?
That's what I was trying to getat until you guys had a lot of
confusion and didn't let meexplain.

Ryan Selimos (12:25):
I feel like you could have explained it better.

Kenny Massa (12:26):
I was getting there , I was getting there, but the
confusing faces were confusingme.
Sorry to think I was talkingabout something completely and
utterly left out.
Oh John, what do you have?

Jonny Strahl (12:29):
No, I think one thing that kind of not pushed me
or drove me away from playingvideo games outside of time is
once they really startedfocusing on the social side of
how you can play and engage withothers, because when you
brought up like you like thecampaigns, you like being able
to.

(12:49):
Actually that's another waythey use I always loved just
playing a season, a franchise ora campaign, like beating the
game versus almost so much, likegoing into, like hey, hey, all
my connectivity right yeah itjust never, ends.
And I feel like these videogames are focusing so more on
the online community piece thatthose campaigns, franchises,

(13:12):
whatever it is, that's wherethey're not really trying.
And I get like, hey, thestorytelling and the technology,
the graphics, it's all improved, but the fundamentals, I feel
like sometimes, is where thesegames are missing out.
And this is coming from someonewho's not a gamer by any means,

(13:32):
who's very enthusiastic andwill buy a console.
When ncaa 25 comes out, that'llprobably be the only game I
play and I hope it's great, andif it's not, I'll be very
disappointed.
Um, but yeah, that's that'skind of when I started steering
away and the only game I didplay that was online was Modern
Warfare 2.
And that's because all myfriends played it.

Kenny Massa (13:47):
I think it's a strategy play, though, on the
game companies.
They create the career and theywant you to keep playing the
game Of course.

Jonny Strahl (13:55):
Yeah, of course.

Kenny Massa (13:56):
And then they started leveraging the
monetization aspect of okay, paythis to get this faster, or you
have to try to do all thesefucking crazy tasks to get this,
this to get this faster, or youhave to try to do all these
fucking crazy tasks to get this,and so they realized, in order
to extend the life of the game,they had to innovate and go
outside of just career and stuff.

James LaGamma (14:13):
Well, how about this question?
I recently read this what doyou guys think about?
Instead of playing a paying aflat rate for a game, you pay a
price per hour that you'replaying.

Kenny Massa (14:26):
Well, they already do that.

James LaGamma (14:28):
Oh, really yeah.

Kenny Massa (14:28):
Xbox does it.
You can get a subscription andthen you just get access to the
games.
It's like the Gamer Pass orsomething like that, and you
just get access to games becauseyou're playing monthly, and
then you don't have to buy themstraight out, but are you paying
based off of the amount of timethat you play?
I have amount of time that youplay.
I have no idea if there's atime allocation.

Jonny Strahl (14:43):
I just think there's like levels of game pass
, but yeah oh well, I would becurious if that's that, if, if
you said you saw this likesomewhere, yeah, specifically
because of the hype aroundchange the well.

Kenny Massa (14:55):
I believe it's the hype around gta 6 that
interesting that came around.

James LaGamma (15:00):
I don't you know for me, for someone who's not.
I hate into gaming like that.

Kenny Massa (15:05):
I just wouldn't play it it would turn me off for
sure.
You can never own anythingoutright anymore.

Jonny Strahl (15:10):
These days I get it software updates, but fucking
I mean, yeah, it's the wild,wild west, for sure.

Kenny Massa (15:17):
Yeah it's just as heartening, but we don't need to
get into that topic.
Um, there's some really fuckinggood games that we all grew up
with, for sure.
Um, I don't know if you guysjust want to start rallying some
shit off, because I seem verypassionate about it.
Lead us off do you remember allthe streets?
Nfl street, nba street.

James LaGamma (15:33):
Yes, oh my god, nfl street.

Kenny Massa (15:34):
The fact that you can create that just obscure
characters awesome.
Um, obviously we alreadymentioned tony hawk.
We've got spyro, we've gotcrash bandicoot.
That was a good one.
Obviously, we already mentionedTony Hawk.
We've got Spyro, we've gotCrash Bandicoot.

James LaGamma (15:47):
That was a good one.
No, not big takers on that one.
Crash was good.
Crash was good.
Didn't get excited Donkey Kong.

Kenny Massa (15:53):
Donkey Kong was good.
I'm trying to think what else?
I mean Gran Turismo versusForza.

James LaGamma (15:58):
I love driving cars, it's the closest thing
I'll ever get to driving forspeed.
Midnight club three.
Midnight club, the dub editionlet's go.

Kenny Massa (16:09):
That was cool for speed was a shit.
Yeah, love need for speedunderground all of them yeah
customizing a car was one of thecoolest things need for speed
was cool.

James LaGamma (16:14):
I played that a lot when I was when I was
younger.

Kenny Massa (16:16):
Yeah, um, did you guys play middle gear solid at
all?
That was probably one of thefirst.
It was about the cold war.
It's kind of an interesting.

Jonny Strahl (16:24):
Yeah, that was honestly, I liked that game more
than call of duty yeah untilagain.
Call of duty just raised thebar and they kept going.
Medal of honor said medal ofhonor.

James LaGamma (16:35):
Yeah, play medal of honor you met.

Jonny Strahl (16:39):
That's not about the cold war medal of honor.
That was a good game.
Medal of Honor was the war game.

Kenny Massa (16:45):
Yeah.

Jonny Strahl (16:46):
I played Medal of Honor.

Kenny Massa (16:47):
I mean, I don't have my laptop up.

Jonny Strahl (16:48):
Medal of Honor.

Kenny Massa (16:50):
I think the player's name was Snake you
might be right he always had tosneak around.
It was a stealth game.
It wasn't really all aboutMedal of Honor.
I've heard about two Medal ofHonor.

Jonny Strahl (17:02):
I've heard about two.

Kenny Massa (17:04):
So that's why, when you said Metal Gear Solid, I'm
thinking Medal of Honor.
Was I wrong, jack Sparrow?

Ryan Selimos (17:08):
Jack Sparrow, I'm pretty sure that was a computer
game, johnny Depp, yeah.

James LaGamma (17:12):
I think it was called Jack Sparrow.
Did you ever play the computergame where you?

Kenny Massa (17:15):
build an attraction .
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what the?

James LaGamma (17:18):
fuck was that called?

Kenny Massa (17:19):
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, that
was cool and then like a zoo onetoo.

Ty Moss (17:23):
Yeah, roller coaster tycoon, yeah Roller coaster
tycoon yeah so how's that?

Jonny Strahl (17:28):
And what's the?

Kenny Massa (17:28):
zoo one.
Do you remember the zoo?

Ty Moss (17:29):
one Ty Zoo tycoon.

Ryan Selimos (17:31):
Zoo tycoon.
Thank you very much.
You're a smart individual.

James LaGamma (17:39):
Freaking roller coaster tycoon.
Wow, steel trap like anelephant.
Yeah, jack Sparrow shit.

Ryan Selimos (17:43):
I know we're on Disney and we're not the biggest
Star Wars fans, but BattlefieldBattlefront 2.

Ty Moss (17:49):
I never got into that oh alright, ty that sounds like
hell yeah there we go.

Kenny Massa (17:54):
Battlefront 2 was.
Do you remember the originalSpider-Man?

Ty Moss (17:57):
yeah, spider-man was like Xbox.

Kenny Massa (17:59):
First it wasn't a PS2 platform.

Ryan Selimos (18:01):
I liked the.
I like spider-man 2 doc.
Op.
Doc.
Op version on the ps2 at thattime.

Kenny Massa (18:08):
Better, okay, than the original game well, I think
it was the same game, it's justyou could play it on either
platform.
I don't think it was uh, itwasn't isolated to ps2 or
playstation, yet that's.
I think we played the same gamelike was uh, actually, I think
it was actually after tobymcguireuire's legit storyline,
that was the game that I wasplaying.

James LaGamma (18:28):
Mortal Kombat was still one of the best.

Kenny Massa (18:30):
Yeah, that was a great game.
Mortal Kombat was good.

James LaGamma (18:39):
Welcome to Hot Takes, where we talk about
debatable topics.
Today, we're actually not goingto be debating as much, but
we're actually going to be doinga bracketology for the best
video games of all time.

Jonny Strahl (18:50):
So, johnny, take it away all right on uh, this uh
episode's video gamebracketology.
We're gonna have a total of 24video games from all different
eras, ages, consoles, etc.
Uh, there'll be a total of 12round.
We'll start with 12 rounds andthen continue, obviously, to the
first place winner.
These video games are going toconsist of sports, first-person

(19:14):
shooter, some strategy and thenyour typical arcade games, et
cetera.
So for the first video game,tetris versus Goldeneye,
goldeneye 007, which wasNintendo 64.

Kenny Massa (19:34):
I think you got to go, tetris.

James LaGamma (19:35):
Tetris.
That's a clear win.
It's a clean sweep.

Ryan Selimos (19:41):
What were you going to go with?
I said Tetris Everyone saidTetris, we all said Tetris
Goldeneye was good, but Tetris,johnny, what do you think?
Tetris is an iconic game, comeon.

James LaGamma (19:48):
Did you play Goldeneye?
You said a kid that justrecently played Tetris, but I
think historically, if you'regoing to think about it.

Kenny Massa (19:55):
You made a movie off of Tetris 007 was already a
movie before they made the game.

Jonny Strahl (20:01):
The movie argument throw that thing out the window
.
I was very shocked by thatunanimous decision.
I'll say that, Ty are you inagreement?

James LaGamma (20:07):
Ooh.

Ty Moss (20:08):
I might have had to say GoldenEye Ty babe.

Jonny Strahl (20:11):
Ty, so you played it on Nintendo 64 originally.

Kenny Massa (20:14):
Yeah, okay, I just never played it, so I guess that
kind of wastes my decision.

Jonny Strahl (20:18):
That was one of the first they played, are you?

Kenny Massa (20:21):
for it.
Yeah, I mean I'm for it, but itdoesn't matter.
3-2.
I know.

Jonny Strahl (20:26):
But yeah, I was golden, alright.
Second is going to be theoriginal Wii Sports.
Hmm, versus minecraft we sportshaven't played so minecraft,
just for everyone's awareness,sold over 200 million copies
worldwide yeah, it's gonna get.

James LaGamma (20:45):
We're gonna get killed on that one craft is
gonna be a.

Kenny Massa (20:47):
I suck at minecraft so give me more sweet sports
baby personally, I like wesports better, that's another
sweet but I think minecraft it'sbigger.
As far as best video game isgoing to be the better one in
this matchup, okay so two to one.

Ryan Selimos (21:08):
John minecraft, nope other one would be sports
also oh, so three to one, wedon't have to get the tie.

Kenny Massa (21:14):
Wow, I hope we're doing this justice, but I think
our older game preferences areprobably going to come to play
here.

Ryan Selimos (21:22):
They will, they will.

Kenny Massa (21:24):
It's probably going to be some disagreements in the
comments.

Jonny Strahl (21:28):
We tried to make it a little bit of a balance.

Kenny Massa (21:31):
Let's just say that there's probably going to be
games that we don't even knowabout too.
That should have been on thislist that we didn't put on there
absolutely.

Jonny Strahl (21:37):
There was a few where, uh, I could have called a
couple of our gamers and theyprobably could have gave us a
better idea.
Okay, but uh.
Third, one of the most iconicgames, halo, originally on the
xbox just quick, quick on halo.

Kenny Massa (21:52):
I remember the old days when xbox came out.
You could link xbox Xboxes andit was when the Halo happened
and people were like cross rooms, there's wires going all over
the place.
It never worked, but then itdid work and it was really
awesome.
This was all before Xbox Liveand all that shit.

Ryan Selimos (22:07):
Is it a TV series or movie for Halo that's coming
out?

Jonny Strahl (22:08):
Yeah, it is.

Kenny Massa (22:14):
I think it's a movie.
I can't know if people are.
It's kind of shit.

Ryan Selimos (22:17):
Yeah, oh, I heard people are not happy with it, Ty
.
What's the opinions?

Ty Moss (22:23):
I mean, everything you like about the game is not in
the show.
Okay.

Jonny Strahl (22:28):
We know where Ty's leaning on this one.

Kenny Massa (22:30):
Sorry for the sidebar, I just had to mention
that.
Yeah, no, it's fair.

Jonny Strahl (22:32):
No, you're good, so arguably one of the best
games of all time the Legend ofZelda, ocarina of Time.
This is a first round matchup.

Ryan Selimos (22:43):
Yes, it is.
Oh my, it's my childhoodagainst my teen years.

James LaGamma (22:47):
Yeah, it is.

Ryan Selimos (22:48):
Fuck.

James LaGamma (22:53):
I didn't own either, so I went to friends'
houses to play both of them.
I would say Halo.
So just because it got, it wasbetter graphically maybe.

Kenny Massa (23:04):
Do you have any stats on it, Johnny?

Jonny Strahl (23:06):
So Zelda was created in 1998, obviously for
Nintendo 64.
It sold over roughly 8 millioncopies worldwide, Zelda.
But it was one of the firstreal.

James LaGamma (23:18):
But how many copies did Halo, oh, halo.

Jonny Strahl (23:21):
Halo crushed, halo changed the game.

James LaGamma (23:23):
Yeah, I mean, it was like so.

Kenny Massa (23:24):
Zelda's like a pioneer, but then Halo, I feel
like, changed the game and thenfirst person shooters became
like some of the greatestfucking games of all yeah, which
led into like COD yeah, yeah,yeah, so like you don't get that
without Halo, in my opinion.
But then Zelda is one of thegreatest of all greats, Pioneer.

Ryan Selimos (23:39):
You don't get video games without Zelda.

Kenny Massa (23:40):
Well, I think it's this one first Pong.

James LaGamma (23:45):
Yeah.

Kenny Massa (23:47):
Boop Pong this one's tough, just to preface to
my outlook on video games.
James, you keep derailing.

Ryan Selimos (23:57):
Just pick one, damn it.
You got one to one, I'll goHalo.

Kenny Massa (24:01):
Oh, okay, we got two Halos Two Halos one.

Ryan Selimos (24:04):
Zelda, zelda, zelda Tie.

Jonny Strahl (24:06):
Tie.

Ryan Selimos (24:07):
Tie breaker.

Ty Moss (24:08):
I'm not a big.

Ryan Selimos (24:08):
Zelda guy.

Ty Moss (24:10):
I'm sorry.

Ryan Selimos (24:11):
You were supposed to say Zelda, so he could break
the tie.
There wasn't a tie to be brokenyet.
It was two to one, no it wastwo to Halo.

Jonny Strahl (24:18):
He said Halo.

Kenny Massa (24:18):
I said Halo, Halo, Halo.

Jonny Strahl (24:20):
Zelda, zelda, all right, you didn't say Zelda.

Ryan Selimos (24:22):
Yeah, he did.

Kenny Massa (24:23):
Ryan, where are?

Ryan Selimos (24:24):
you bro, I'm going fucking crazy when the fuck are
you?

Jonny Strahl (24:27):
So, tyke, you're more into games obviously.
Like, really, yeah, I'm kind ofupset, to be honest.

Ty Moss (24:35):
I'm sorry why I just can't get into the.
Graphics I don't know Any sortof game where it's like all
right, here's the whole world,go do something.
I just get sidetracked and Idon't.
I can't finish it, I can'tfinish it.

Jonny Strahl (24:47):
Do you guys remember?

Ty Moss (24:48):
So don't, isn't that?

Jonny Strahl (24:50):
crazy, though, that that game, with what you
just said an open map, one ofthe first in its time created a
lot of what the future games arethat still have challenges, by
the way, that's true.

Ty Moss (25:02):
But also.
But Halo did the same sort ofthing with the aiming like the,
not auto aim, but like the aimassist.
That was like you can like.
It was hard as shit to playwith a first person shooter on a
controller before Halo.

Jonny Strahl (25:16):
Listen, it's technology, it's the times, it
was 1990s, like geez so it'sstill good.

Ty Moss (25:23):
I know I know people who love, love that and all
newer ones, but I can't, I can't, I just can't do it I'm
heartbroken that this isn't evengetting to the second round.

Jonny Strahl (25:30):
All right, so we're gonna go to the fourth.
We've got.
I combine these guitar hero,garage band versus the og, one
of the greatest computer gamesof all time, the Sims Ooh.

James LaGamma (25:43):
Sims I like.

Kenny Massa (25:45):
The Sims Guitar Hero.
Are you kidding me, guitar Hero.

Ryan Selimos (25:47):
Sims Give me the Sims Guitar Hero.

James LaGamma (25:49):
Guitar Hero was cool, but after a while it got
boring.

Ryan Selimos (25:53):
I played the same song 70 times.
What was your favorite part ofthe Sims Kenny?

Kenny Massa (25:56):
Guitar Hero was boring.
I play the same song 70 times.
What was your favorite part ofthe?

Ryan Selimos (25:58):
Sims Kenny, guitar Hero, was boring the same song
Hot tub time.

Kenny Massa (26:00):
The whole part of Guitar Hero.

James LaGamma (26:03):
We can't keep our Building our life.
Brian, we gotta move on.

Kenny Massa (26:06):
I'm well aware, johnny, give us your fucking
pick.

Jonny Strahl (26:10):
I just want to keep it.
Even so, I'm gonna go with.

Kenny Massa (26:13):
Which means he doesn't care about either, but I
think he does have one that helikes.

Jonny Strahl (26:17):
I just want Ty's opinion.
Ty, what are you going with?

Ty Moss (26:19):
I play Guitar Hero to this day.
I still have Guitar Hero and Iplay it all the time.

Kenny Massa (26:24):
Next time we come in Ty, can you bring it?

Ty Moss (26:25):
I sure can.
I can put it up on the TV.

Jonny Strahl (26:31):
I was going to go with the Sims Kenny't dude we're
just said sims, didn't you'rethe sims too?
No, I was we, I was guitar heroyeah, I had the sims and then
he was the tiebreaker.
No, three oh sims, sims, oh one, two three to one, johnny, my
bad, my bad.

Ryan Selimos (26:45):
Sims, let's go, baby, let's go, that's my bad,
my bad, my bad damn.
And why do we love this?

Jonny Strahl (26:53):
I feel so much better now.
Okay, so this is one of thebest games.
That's like newer and you cansee a bunch of streamers,
vloggers, all playing this gameRed Dead Redemption 2 Versus the
OG.
Super Mario 64 Super Mario.

Ryan Selimos (27:10):
Not even close.

Ty Moss (27:12):
Not even close.

Kenny Massa (27:13):
I know how much people like Red Dead, but when
you put them up against afucking mario like mario come on
all day ty.

Jonny Strahl (27:21):
What do you think?

Ty Moss (27:22):
I.
I think video games have aspecific ability in like
compared to other forms of artto like.
Nothing can tell you a story.
You can't follow through uslike a 60 hour long story like
you could with a movie.
It's the closest thing thatcompares to a book.
I mean, mario changedeverything.
I guess, but if it's preference, I'd probably pick Red Dead.

James LaGamma (27:46):
But if you look at, Gentleman's Suite.

Ryan Selimos (27:48):
We're not looking, it's a pick and move.

Kenny Massa (27:51):
It's a pick and move.

Jonny Strahl (27:52):
No, it's not Alright, so we've got the OG,
probably what our parents playeda lot of Pac-Man in the arcades
Versus backyard sports backyardbaseball, backyard football.

James LaGamma (28:09):
How would you do this?
These are not first-roundmatch-ups.
That's the toughest one of them.

Kenny Massa (28:15):
I'm going to get roasted for this.
But I'm going Pac-Man primarilybecause I never played those.
Okay, that's fair.
I don't think you're going toget roasted for that.
I mean Pac-Man's good, but Ithink a lot of people have some
allegiance to the backyardsports.

Ryan Selimos (28:27):
I'm going to go Pac-Man, pedro, whatever his
fucking name is.
I'm going Pac-Man because aresome better sport ones on this
list coming?
There's got to be Now.
Backyard sports are fantastic,but there's got to be some more.
I'm banking on it, pac-man.

James LaGamma (28:40):
I'm going Pac-Man because I played it more.
I definitely have played a lotof backyard sports, but Pac-Man
is like the OG it doesn't getold, even as old as it gets.

Kenny Massa (28:50):
We have a Pac-Man arcade set up in our break room
at work.

James LaGamma (28:53):
It's fucking set up in our break room at work.
I just can't believe it.
Every time I heat up food thetable one where you have a
little- joystick, it's a legityeah, you can play other stuff I
didn't mean to go down thatroad.

Kenny Massa (29:04):
Are you guys seeing a?

Ryan Selimos (29:04):
trend.
We've done two Bracketology.
Some of these first roundmatchups are bullshit.

Kenny Massa (29:08):
They get harder.
It's happening again.
They're randomized.

Jonny Strahl (29:12):
Go, go, go, go, go , go go.
All right, we've got All right,so we're going with Pac-Man Ty.
What do you think?

Ty Moss (29:17):
I could go either way.

Jonny Strahl (29:20):
All right, we've got Some of these are going to
be more of like as a collectiveokay.
Just want to set thatexpectation.
We got Call of Duty versus theMadden series.
Madden series Call of Duty.

Ryan Selimos (29:35):
Because Madden has gotten worse and not improved
in the later years.

James LaGamma (29:39):
But he said it collected.
He said the brand as a whole.

Ryan Selimos (29:43):
I'm a sports guy, I'm saying Call of Duty.

Kenny Massa (29:45):
I think EA Sports got a lot of flack for how
Madden is, so I think theyweren't able to adopt Now.
Granted, cod has also gonethrough its Activision versus
other stuff, but anyways, I'mgoing'm going cod come hot it is
, that's because you're votingcod as well.

Ty Moss (30:02):
Modern warfare okay, see, that's where I'm I mean
days of my life have I given themodern warfare 2 it's insane.
That's my high school rightthere that's it, that's
literally.

Ryan Selimos (30:14):
That is our high school.

Kenny Massa (30:16):
Holy shit.
I used to make YouTube videoson us sniping people and fucking
cod.
Yeah, it was nuts.

Jonny Strahl (30:23):
All right, Bioshock, which is a big game.
I heard about that one.
Ty is shaking his head.
He knows.
I used to watch Bill Walsh playthis in college for hours
versus, which I think is allgoing to relate with us even
better.
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.

Kenny Massa (30:39):
Tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony
Hawk, Tony Hawk, tony Hawk'sgoing to win the whole thing for
me.

Ryan Selimos (30:44):
Tony Hawk Bioshock for Ty.

Ty Moss (30:47):
I don't know, it's hard , it's a tough one.

James LaGamma (30:49):
Tony Hawk.
I agree with.

Kenny Massa (30:51):
Tony.

Ryan Selimos (30:51):
Hawk.

Kenny Massa (30:57):
Can't play it.
Bioshock.

Jonny Strahl (30:57):
It fell off a cliff but they made a comeback
with 1 and 2 coming back, theoriginal Pokemon on the Game Boy
versus Gran Turismo, granTurismo.

Kenny Massa (31:07):
Pokemon Revolutionized the car industry.

James LaGamma (31:10):
Pokemon my first game ever.
Bulbasaur Game Boy.

Ryan Selimos (31:14):
Color, game Boy Color.

James LaGamma (31:17):
What color did you have had?

Kenny Massa (31:18):
uh like blue it was like teal, yes, yeah, I had
teal, yeah, or whatever it was,I just don't know how many car
rides did game boy get youthrough long road trips?

James LaGamma (31:27):
I couldn't even read when that came out.

Kenny Massa (31:30):
I remember asking my mom- to understand what gran
turismo has done in sim racing.

James LaGamma (31:35):
It's probably one of the most sales of all time.
I don't know Pokemon's prettyup there, I know.

Kenny Massa (31:43):
Pokemon's big, but I'm telling you right now the
original Pokemon.

Ryan Selimos (31:47):
we're on to the next one.

Kenny Massa (31:48):
Well, no, that's two to one right now, johnny.

Jonny Strahl (31:50):
I'm going Gran Turismo.

Kenny Massa (31:51):
Thank you, this is tough.

Ty Moss (31:54):
I still have my Game Boy.

Ryan Selimos (31:55):
There he is, baby.

Ty Moss (31:58):
Let's go, I also played .

Kenny Massa (32:01):
Gran Turismo with my dad a lot.

Ty Moss (32:04):
I have those tracks memorized.

Ryan Selimos (32:05):
Which one's his own, because I just got excited.
Can you please pull the plug?

Ty Moss (32:13):
I gotta say Pokemon.
Really I was close.
Pokemon got to say Pokemon.

Ryan Selimos (32:15):
Ah, yes, yes.

Ty Moss (32:17):
Really.

Ryan Selimos (32:18):
I was close.

Kenny Massa (32:20):
I just got really happy.

James LaGamma (32:23):
I remember when they came out with that Pokemon
game on your phone.

Kenny Massa (32:27):
I mean, game Boy isn't Game Boy without Pokemon
to be fair 100%.

Jonny Strahl (32:31):
So I understand Pokemon has done a lot, true?
So we're going Pokemon.

Ryan Selimos (32:35):
That's right.
Say bye-bye, Gran Turismo Fuckoff.

Kenny Massa (32:38):
I can't believe that just fell off the cliff,
that is, should have been.
Bioshock, just riding rightinto the sunset.

Jonny Strahl (32:42):
I don't like that at all.
That's not fair.
I don't like it at all.

Kenny Massa (32:44):
Alright, I hate bracketology.

Jonny Strahl (32:47):
I love it, gets it going Assassin's Creed versus
FIFA, fifa, fifa.

Ryan Selimos (32:54):
FIFA, FIFA, FIFA.

Kenny Massa (32:57):
I like FIFA?
I do, but I think Assassin'sCreed has taken the market way
more by storm.
Fifa was college For us.
I like FIFA, but I also just Ijust if you're thinking about
the general gamer I think a lotof general gamers have played
practically all games, but Ijust don't think that they like
they would play FIFA too much.
So I think that more generalgamer would like the assassin's

(33:20):
creed.
I don't know why I'm having toprove my point here.
I should just pick and move on.
But Kenny assassin's creed.
Okay.

James LaGamma (33:35):
What'd you say?

Ryan Selimos (33:35):
Right.

James LaGamma (33:36):
FIFA for sure.

Ryan Selimos (33:41):
So you said what?
There too, there is'sassassin's creed.
I'm gonna go fifa.
Attaboy, attaboy ty, you're thebreaker, I'm back with the
assassin's creed yes hey dudeyes, fifa adam vincent, I'm
sorry, fifa is great I FIFA.

Kenny Massa (33:56):
Actually, one of my favorites was actually winning
11-7.
Have you ever remembered thatone?
It's an older one.
No, yeah, it was a rival toFIFA for a while.
Okay, but FIFA definitely wasbetter.

Jonny Strahl (34:05):
All right, all right, we've got NCAA versus UFC
.

Ryan Selimos (34:11):
NCAA, yeah, ncaa, not even close.

James LaGamma (34:14):
NCAA Not even close NCAA.
As we look towards the release.

Jonny Strahl (34:16):
It's football right NCAA football.

James LaGamma (34:18):
Against what though?

Jonny Strahl (34:19):
UFC.

James LaGamma (34:20):
Oh, NCAA.
As much as I like UFC, NCAA wasaround for a long time.
That shit was awesome.

Ryan Selimos (34:27):
Talk about how many all-nighters did you pull
to create a dynasty in NCAA?

James LaGamma (34:31):
Yeah, NCAA it's zero and that's probably because
we played that a lot more.

Ryan Selimos (34:37):
Ufc, when did it's zero, and that's probably
because we played that a lotmore like you see, when do they
really come out?

James LaGamma (34:40):
how many times do we create ourselves in ncaa on
a college team?
Yeah, yeah, play that um.

Jonny Strahl (34:44):
The last one's gonna be grand theft auto versus
probably one of the og originalcomputer games 1970s the oregon
trail gta, gta yeah, I wasfiguring that GTA can take it.

James LaGamma (34:59):
GTA is a fucking.

Ryan Selimos (35:00):
NCAA is my pick, to take it.

James LaGamma (35:02):
GTA is good though.

Jonny Strahl (35:04):
I'm surprised you didn't put Snake on there.
There was a bunch.

Kenny Massa (35:08):
There's so many good games.

Jonny Strahl (35:10):
The Last of Us was one of the, which I think it
ties like us to one All the onestied like us.
Yeah, alright.
So we ties like that's the one.
All the ones tied like that arelike yeah, all right, so we're
moving to the second round.
We've got Tetris versus WiiSports Tetris, tetris, tetris,
okay.

James LaGamma (35:25):
Tetris, listen Tetris, that's the fastest.

Ryan Selimos (35:28):
That's an OG Twice now.
Yeah, it's been.

Jonny Strahl (35:32):
Halo versus the Sims Halo.

Kenny Massa (35:37):
I think Halo is a bigger one.
Yeah.

Jonny Strahl (35:38):
Yeah, halo, we're all on the Sims.
What would you have gone, ty?

Ty Moss (35:44):
Yeah, probably Halo still.

Jonny Strahl (35:45):
Yeah, sick.

Ryan Selimos (35:47):
Love the Sims though.

Jonny Strahl (35:48):
Super Mario versus Pac-Man.

Ryan Selimos (35:52):
Ooh Battle of the Titans, super Mario.

James LaGamma (36:01):
That's a tough one, super mario.
Just because I think you canplay it longer and it's like I
got a story to it mario, I canget.
I know pac-man's good, but Iknow, you're right, that's a
tough one I got to save thatfucking princess.
Yeah.

Jonny Strahl (36:18):
All right, we've got Call of Duty versus Tony
Hawk Pro Skate.

Ryan Selimos (36:25):
Tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony Hawk, tony Hawk.
Call of Duty.
Call of Duty.
I love Tony.

Jonny Strahl (36:29):
Hawk Call of Duty.
Call of Duty, you got Tony Hawk.
Fuck yeah, I'm going Tony Hawk,let's go, you're.

Ryan Selimos (36:33):
Fuck yeah, I'm going tony hawk, you're just
saying that, no, no, this is atough one for me.
This is a very, very tough onefor me.

Jonny Strahl (36:39):
I love cod, he loves a lot of time with the cop
, but way more time I like

Ty Moss (36:43):
I.
I played skate more than Iplayed tony let's go, baby.

Kenny Massa (36:49):
Oh, I didn't know I'm sorry I didn't know he was a
poser skate didn't have he wasa poser.

Ty Moss (36:58):
Skate didn't have the outfits that you could, all the
cheat codes that you could do inTony Hawk, that was my jam.

Kenny Massa (37:03):
It was great.
You could be Iron man.
It's gone.

Ty Moss (37:06):
Yeah, like I said, the days of my life ticked off, so
I'm going to go with Hawk, sorry.

Jonny Strahl (37:11):
Okay, all right, we've got Pokemon.
Game Boy Versus NCAA, ncaa,pokemon, pokemon, ncaa Fucking
he's going to go with Pokemon.

Ty Moss (37:24):
Oh my God.

Jonny Strahl (37:26):
NCAA ain't going to make it.
Oh my God Out of the secondround.
Fatality.
So Ty, I actually removedMortal Kombat, Mortal Kombat was
a fucking baller game.
Yeah, I removed that one.
I should have kept it.

James LaGamma (37:42):
I'm going to replace it with that.
You could have a massivebracketology.

Jonny Strahl (37:46):
What sports games are left?
Oh dude, it was so bad weknocked out FIFA and NCAA, yeah,
and no NFL Blitz.
We've got Assassin's Creedversus Grand Theft Auto.

Ryan Selimos (37:56):
GTA, gta, gta, gta .

Jonny Strahl (37:58):
For sure.
This is ridiculous.
Alright, so in our final six wegot Tetris, halo, super Mario,
call of Duty, pokemon and GTA.
Who do we have to guess Onethrough four?
Final two we got Tetris versusHalo.

James LaGamma (38:13):
Tetris.

Kenny Massa (38:14):
Halo.

James LaGamma (38:17):
We have our first vote against Tetris.

Ryan Selimos (38:22):
I'm going to stick with Tetris.

Jonny Strahl (38:27):
I'm going to go with Halo.
I haven't gone with Halo oncetoday.

Ty Moss (38:31):
Ty, I'm going Halo.
Yay, sorry, tetris.

James LaGamma (38:36):
That's a tough one though I mean they get
difficult as they continue tomove.

Jonny Strahl (38:41):
All right, we've got Super Mario versus Call of
Duty.

Ryan Selimos (38:46):
Super Mario Call of Duty.

Kenny Massa (38:51):
Those fucking suck.

Ryan Selimos (38:55):
Oh, this one's hard, yeah, it gets so much
harder every time that's thepoint the early one.
Some of the early rounds arefucking tough some of them yeah
in super mario.

Kenny Massa (39:08):
Can I, are we including mario kart?
And like do you see anything?

James LaGamma (39:13):
mario property or is?

Jonny Strahl (39:14):
it just super because cod has a bunch of games
so like do I get to go more,mario I think that my decision
that makes you all right.
So when I think of call of duty, I think of calling because
like modern warfare 2 that'slike a favor for me, so I go
with that you also have uh,what's the other?

Kenny Massa (39:32):
mario game that's really popular too sunshine no
no, no, I.
I think a lot of othercharacters come into play on it,
right?
Isn't it a Mario game?

James LaGamma (39:42):
Maybe I'm going somewhere else.
I just need to make my pick.

Kenny Massa (39:44):
Mario Kart's good, I'm going Mario on this one.
Then, johnny, it's down to youto break the you said Mario.

Ty Moss (39:50):
I went Mario so it's 2-1.

Kenny Massa (39:52):
Cod's 1.
Sorry to detour one Cod's one.

Ty Moss (39:55):
Sorry to detour, smash isn't on this list.

Jonny Strahl (39:58):
Smash Bros is not on this list.
It was kind of part of theIsn't that Mario Mario kind of
odds.
That's where I was going.
That's where I was going SuperSmash Bros.

James LaGamma (40:06):
I thought was Mario.
Oh, that's a great one.
That's under the Mario.
Property is my opinion.

Kenny Massa (40:10):
So that's why I'm going Mario.
If you're going all Marioproperties, I like Cod, all
right, all right.
So who wins?
Because you have to pickbetween Cod or Mario it doesn't
matter what I got, it matterswhat you got 2-1 right now
Johnny's going to pick the tiesI know.

Jonny Strahl (40:28):
Tiebreaker.
I just I'm going to go.
Cod Boom, Is it 2-2?
No, it's 3-1.
Is it 2-2?

James LaGamma (40:32):
No it's 3-1.
No, it's 2-2.

Kenny Massa (40:34):
No, it's 2-2.
I went.

James LaGamma (40:35):
Mario Mario Cod.

Kenny Massa (40:36):
Cod.

Ryan Selimos (40:37):
Come on, get with it.
I went Cod Mario.

Kenny Massa (40:39):
Oh fuck, god damn it Get with the program Ty,
let's go Okay wait, wait, wait.
So Smash Bros isn't.
That's not Mario, Is it notunder the Mario property?

Ty Moss (40:52):
Because if that is, then I might have to lean, but
if it's, I'm thinking likeplatformer, like the 2D
platformer, mario's, all ofthose the days, remember the
days you gave, the years thatyou gave to.
God, but it fell off so hard.
If yeah, I'll wait for thefinal decision on where Smash
Bros lies.

Kenny Massa (41:22):
Do-do-do-do-do-do Smash Bros Lies.
It's not strictly considered aMario game, boom.
Because, it basically haseveryone from Nintendo, 40
different franchises, includingMario and Kirby.
I always thought it was becauseof the bros part.
I thought it was under theMario property.
I guess I'm wrong.

James LaGamma (41:43):
I'll take it so.

Ty Moss (41:45):
No, that was a spin-off thing, then I gotta go COD.
I guess I'll go COD Nice.

Jonny Strahl (41:52):
Alright, then we've got Pokemon versus GTA GTA
.

Kenny Massa (41:58):
GTA Pokemon, the hours of spent trying to evolve
Pokemon I never played a singleminute of GTA Wasn't allowed to.
Fair enough, you're right.

James LaGamma (42:12):
I was only allowed to play sports games.

Jonny Strahl (42:16):
You didn't go to your friend's house to play.

Kenny Massa (42:18):
GTA I was only allowed to play.
I was, I was, I was, I was, Iwas I was, I was.

James LaGamma (42:24):
I was, I was, I was.

Jonny Strahl (42:25):
I was, I was.

James LaGamma (42:26):
I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was.

Ryan Selimos (42:27):
I was, I was, I was, I was, I was.

Jonny Strahl (42:29):
I was, I was, I was, I was, I was.
I'm going to go GTA Okay thenit's done, Boom Ty.

Kenny Massa (42:35):
What have you gone with?

Jonny Strahl (42:37):
GTA.

Kenny Massa (42:38):
All right, cool, I don't feel bad then.

Jonny Strahl (42:39):
All right.
So we ended up with three inthe last round, so we're just
going to swing it.
All right.
We've got Halo, cod and GTA.
How do we have three?

Kenny Massa (42:47):
left.

Jonny Strahl (42:47):
How do we end up with three?
I have zero idea, but we'regoing to go with these.

Kenny Massa (42:51):
It's because we went 12 instead of 16.
I thought we started with 20.
Yeah, we did.

Jonny Strahl (42:56):
Yes, that is 100% why we took out two.
So, we got three.
What are they again?
Halo, All freaking shootinggames.
Halo, Call of Duty and Grand.

Kenny Massa (43:11):
Theft Auto GTA, I'll have to go with Call of
Duty then, I guess.
Ah, shit.

Ryan Selimos (43:13):
Here we go again GTA baby.

Jonny Strahl (43:17):
All right this.
So you got GTA.
You got GTA.
You got Call of Duty.
I got Call of Duty.
I'm going with Call of Duty, Ty, you are literally breaking
this for us.

Kenny Massa (43:28):
Get about the years If he goes.

Ty Moss (43:30):
Halo, then what the fuck happens there?

Jonny Strahl (43:32):
So I guess, he's going to go, halo, actually.

Ty Moss (43:34):
Did one of them get a buy, or is it?

Jonny Strahl (43:36):
Yeah, we gave Halo a buy just because you guys
like Halo and wanted to pickthem over freaking all the other
good ones.

Kenny Massa (43:42):
We cut Halo out because Halo had a good bracket
to run through Halo just dropped, so you have to choose between
COD or GTA Halo over the Sims,get out of here.

Ryan Selimos (43:55):
Cod or GTA Ty, forget about the years of life
devoted to COD.
Now Remember about the downfall.

Ty Moss (44:04):
Damn COD, god gta, something else that's like.
That is like the open worldgame that I can play, like I can
play that with my friends, wecould all hop on and yeah, you
couldn't play cod with yourfriends not in the same way.
Not, it doesn't my friends suckat cod.

Kenny Massa (44:23):
That's because your friends suck.

Ty Moss (44:26):
I got to say GTA, gta.

James LaGamma (44:29):
Oh, GTA is a winner.
Let's go, baby.

Kenny Massa (44:31):
Theft Auto takes it for the best video.
Are you fucking mental?

Jonny Strahl (44:36):
That's what's wrong with society right now.

Kenny Massa (44:38):
We got GTA as the best video.

Jonny Strahl (44:40):
This is why I don't, I almost didn't even play
it.

Kenny Massa (44:43):
This is why I don't like Bracketology, because I
don't think they're seededcorrectly.
Number one that's the point ofit though I get it's random, but
I hate the fucking end result.

Jonny Strahl (44:52):
It sucks.
Well, we got three randoms, andI mean three iconic games, I
mean Call of Duty.
How Halo made it this far isridiculous.

James LaGamma (45:03):
But you guys like Halo.
That's cool, all right.

Jonny Strahl (45:05):
So Grand Theft Auto which there's a new game
coming out.

Kenny Massa (45:09):
What A couple years ?
Is it five or six?
I think it's six, I don't know.
I think it's six.
I think GTA 5 has already beenout.

James LaGamma (45:14):
Six, I think, is the one that's coming out now.

Jonny Strahl (45:15):
Grand Theft Auto.
Wow, what a Vice City they hadlike San Jose.
San Andreas, san Andreas, yeah,vice City.
They made a movie out of it.

James LaGamma (45:26):
Vice City was like my first kind of like
introduction to that, I think.

Jonny Strahl (45:32):
Yeah, and then you became a different person,
because it's a crazy game.

James LaGamma (45:35):
It was crazy, all right.
Well those are the winners.
There we have it.

Ryan Selimos (45:50):
There's a couple of new games.
I just haven't played yet, butI hear that you know I've never
played fortnight splinter,remember that one, yeah so
fortnight never played.
It.
Is it all that it's hyped up tobe?
I mean, I know that's a thingfor kids now a lot of us don't
play, but I just I don't see it.

Kenny Massa (45:54):
I think what was big was because they came out
with it for free, yeah, and thenit blew up from there now it's
like a social and cultural ty,you got anything for us on
fortnight.

Ryan Selimos (46:03):
We just old kind of complaining, or is it I?

Ty Moss (46:06):
rated it.
I mean I, I I play games tohang out with my friends.
So if they're like, that's whatthey're gonna play, I'll play,
but I don't.

Jonny Strahl (46:12):
I don't enjoy it okay, yeah it's uh, my nephew
and niece play it.
They're obsessed.

Kenny Massa (46:18):
Yeah, it's crazy I played this snowboarding game
that I just fucking loved.

Jonny Strahl (46:22):
Ssx tricky nintendo or is that play?

Kenny Massa (46:25):
it was xbox.

Jonny Strahl (46:26):
I played it.

Kenny Massa (46:27):
I think there's uh not that one, but definitely my
I played a lot with, with theguys I grew up with, alex and
sean and um, one of our funniestuh like childhood memories was
at the end credits of ssx.
Tricky, yeah, the girl thatthey went after like they
modeled the character after goesssx.
Oh, I thought this was sex andwe love that line.

(46:52):
It's been something we alwayscall back to when we, when we
see each other.

Ryan Selimos (46:56):
But uh, love that game.
My childhood memory with videogames is my.
You guys all met him at mywedding, but my boy, fabian.
Um, we would play ncaa.
We would start a dynasty weeach.
I guess you could do it whereyou could do a two-player
dynasty and we'd be on differentteams and we would start it at
10 o'clock at night and we'dmake our game against each other

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the last game of the season andwe would just spend all night
playing like we'd watch eachother play, just to play each
other the all-nighter aspect ofall video games and friendship.

Jonny Strahl (47:26):
Yes, unbelievable.

Kenny Massa (47:28):
Like underrated for sure I prefer the time when
they didn't have online play forsure.
Yeah, because that can rot liketo play all night long trying
to stay up, hopped up onmountain dew and you're with
each other.

James LaGamma (47:41):
You're with each other in the physical same
location, like that's what.

Kenny Massa (47:43):
That's what sleepovers were you're Dew and
you're with each other.

James LaGamma (47:44):
You're with each other in the physical same
location, like that's whatsleepovers were yeah, you're
sitting there and you're alllike, and then, like, you're
planning your next day like thewhole day that you're going to
do next and like it doesn't haveto be video games like that.

Kenny Massa (47:52):
Back in the day it was, you played video games all
night and it was really fun.
You fucking passed out.
You definitely didn't make itall night, and then you wake up
like at 12 o'clock the next dayand you're out there riding
around on your bike and doing abunch of stupid shit, hood rat
stuff with your friends.
I mean, those were the days,the days.

Ryan Selimos (48:07):
Those fucking 90s and 2000s man Fuck.
Four of us are just sitting inthat nostalgia right now.

Ty Moss (48:14):
I remember sleepovers Halo sleepovers that we played
so much I would fall asleep andmy dreams would just be.

Ryan Selimos (48:20):
Halo, that's awesome.
Hell yeah, very good, wouldjust be that's awesome.

Kenny Massa (48:27):
Oh, yeah, very good .
It was really cool when gamesstarted to come out with the uh
hardware that you could use withit.
So, like new tar, hero isprobably the most knowledgeable
one.
But uh, do you guys rememberwhen dance, dance, revolution
yeah, it was at the arcade, butthen they came out with the mats
yeah you plug it in the fuckingPlayStation 2.
That was fucking cool.
I loved doing that.

Jonny Strahl (48:46):
What was the sibling Do?

Kenny Massa (48:48):
you remember when we came out?

James LaGamma (48:50):
Yeah, so then the motion stuff started catching
up, which is now Nintendo.

Kenny Massa (48:54):
Yep, I've seen the games where they're playing
songs and they're trying to cutsomething.
Nintendo Switch is pretty sweet.
Yeah, Nintendo Wii was dope.

Jonny Strahl (49:05):
It was really cool because I was also during the
time when there was that racewith the other consoles and then
we came out half the price andit was like the first thing.

James LaGamma (49:11):
That was like virtual ar ish, yeah, like they
changed the game with that andyou know what?
No one really.
Is there an element of thatwith xbox or playstation?
They?

Jonny Strahl (49:20):
try.
They had that with thecontroller and stuff.

James LaGamma (49:23):
Xbox came out with a camera at one point.

Jonny Strahl (49:24):
Yeah they all said that it looked like a bar, like
a sound bar, but it never tookoff.
But I mean, now you got thewhatever the heck they're called
.
Playstation has VR now.

Ty Moss (49:36):
Oh yeah, that's right.

Kenny Massa (49:37):
We do have VR.

James LaGamma (49:38):
That's like a whole different level.

Kenny Massa (49:39):
That's the thing I was saying with the slices.

Jonny Strahl (49:40):
Well, that's where they're moving.
That's where the world's going.

Kenny Massa (49:44):
Well, ryan has his fucking take on that, all right.

Jonny Strahl (49:47):
So your mind is like, hey, why don't you go out
in the backyard?

James LaGamma (49:50):
or on the street and do those motions, and then I
see the people outside.

Ryan Selimos (49:56):
I remember we were on vacation and in the middle
of the park they just got thehelmet on In the middle of the
fucking helmet just doingwhatever the park.
They just got the helmet on inthe middle of doing whatever the
hell they were doing in theirvirtual reality?

Kenny Massa (50:08):
I don't know.
Well, you're talking aboutvirtual reality, but that's what
we're talking about Iunderstand that, but we're also
talking about how video gamesare fucking awesome and you're
like go out and play.

Ryan Selimos (50:16):
It's like they're the best of both worlds here,
kid you.

James LaGamma (50:20):
Video games played a special part in your
fucking.
They did so.
You can't say it's just gone toa level.
I think it's crossed the line.
In my opinion, right, it'scrossed the line for right yeah,
which is like understandable.

Kenny Massa (50:31):
It is understandable I guess who knows
where I I always I listened tomy dad as he grew up and video
games became a thing.
Like he came, he grew up in thearea of era of video games
actually starting and so he saweverything go and he's like I
can't wait for the moment when Ican actually put on a VR

(50:52):
headset and it actually feelslike I'm in this game and like I
don't know if we're officiallythere yet, but that was one
thing he always wanted to do.
So I I kind of.
I guess that's where I disagreewith you like I think that's
just the next step in videogames is to be more in the
actual game.
I'm not disagreeing with you inthe fact that people need to go
outside and do stuff, but ifyou're going to play a video

(51:14):
game, why not elevate it to thatlevel of actually feeling like
you're part of the game?

Ryan Selimos (51:18):
I just see it going to that, literally that
movie ready, player one and thewhole like.

Jonny Strahl (51:23):
That's funny.

James LaGamma (51:23):
That's where it's headed.

Ryan Selimos (51:24):
Hey at least they're on a treadmill, I mean
their whole world is fuckingvirtual and the real world is.

Kenny Massa (51:31):
I mean that's already happening today.
Anyway, I know A lot of peopleare just invested in the video
games.

Ty Moss (51:35):
It's fine.

Kenny Massa (51:37):
And, honestly, some made a career out of it.
It's great.
People need their escape.
That's why you watch sports forhours and hours and hours and
hours and hours and hours andhours and hours and hours and
hours and hours again I say theline's been crossed where it
turns from an escape untilyou're full on reality and who
knows how far it'll go.

James LaGamma (51:52):
Yeah, it's still.

Jonny Strahl (51:53):
It's still a whole , we'll see it's a whole other
world, I mean remember when the,the pandemic hit and esports
took off with like the actualvideo games and like people
driving, like the cars and stufflike that, and it was aired on
like these real televisions on areal cable, like that was nuts
and it took off.
And video games took off thatway like like league of legend,

(52:15):
like all that stuff.
It was crazy.
I remember putting on the, thetv and I think it was like espn2
, and I was at home and weliterally thought we were
watching a real like formula onerace for a second and it took
like about 30, 35 seconds torealize yo this is like a a a
video game going on and thepeople are driving in the real
things Like it's crazy.

Kenny Massa (52:35):
Do you, uh, do you recall the great, big, beautiful
tomorrow ride in magic kingdom?
The one that's like a carousel?

James LaGamma (52:45):
yes, so that that's how it ends is like
they're playing the video gamesand the grandma gets on there's
like oh yeah, I shot him thefuck down and he's just cursing
and obviously it's disney, butstill you get where I was going.

Kenny Massa (52:53):
It's.
It's just funny because that'skind of like what you said, like
it's getting insane, like wherewe've gone so far with these
video games and stuff, but it'scool yeah I mean there's,
there's still people that playcomputer video games.
Actually, there's some peoplethat say that that's superior
than the consoles, the computer,the gamers yeah, for sure, yeah
like I mean you're talkingabout back in the day when, like
modern, not world of warcraftwas big club penguin might have

(53:16):
been another penguin was that?

James LaGamma (53:18):
was.
That was a great one, right?
Yes, I kind of remember that Idon't know you were on there to
talk to Jakes but you were onthere Freaking AI.

Jonny Strahl (53:29):
That's what it was for Wow.
I think that's why a lot ofClearly my priorities were
different.

Kenny Massa (53:34):
I thought so.

Ryan Selimos (53:36):
I don't know what else are you doing on the club?

Jonny Strahl (53:38):
Anglin, you're playing the game.

James LaGamma (53:42):
Ryan was there for different games.
Sorry, mama Salimos.
Oh jeez.

Kenny Massa (53:48):
But no, I think computer games have, or
computers have been becomingmore superior because I think
their hardware is just generallybetter.
You can pack more into a giantdesktop than you can in a
console.
Dylan plays it now.
He gave me his Xbox.

James LaGamma (54:03):
He's like I don't need it, I go play on, play cod
on this and I'm like I don'tknow how I feel about having the
buttons and not a controller,but I think you can also connect
the controller I don't knowcomputers are interesting
educate us in the comments, letus know what, what your favorite
console is, or where you thinkthe entire industry of video
game kind of world, or or maybeeven VR as a whole, as that

(54:26):
takes over some of the videogame market, where you think
it's going to go.
We'd love to hear your thoughts, because there's we're probably
not the people that are deepestin the industry.
So until then, the bettercontinues.