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This is no Rate Havoc and you'relistening to Give Me Back My Pro
Wrestling. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to
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one more time to the Give Me Back my Pro Wrestling podcast.
And as always, I've got my brother from the same father and
mother, The plastic sheet, JaredSt.

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What's up Sheik? How you doing today?
Not much, brother. We need to get you a nickname.
I'm. I'm.
I'm sick of this. I got to come up with something
for you. I'm just Jimmy the Jimmy the guy
give. Me the guy.
I'm Jimmy across the street on the Wolfie show, so I don't
know. It's just a lot of words to say
and you know. I don't know, it's something we
got to come up with, something for you.
You're Jared down the street. Yeah, you know, Jared down the

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street. Plastic sheet, you know.
Anyway, you've got all the names.
But anyway, Long story short, that's the nickname Wolfie gave
me. It doesn't really roll off the
tongue, let's just say that, youknow, but whatever.
It doesn't flow great, yeah. Yeah, I mean, but he.
He thought it's funny. Yeah, but we'll figure that out
along the line. They just got to come naturally,
you know, as they. Force it.

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Right. Don't want to force it, but
anyway, man, today Chic, we got a heck of a show.
Dude. I'm so stoked about this.
First of all, you know, this hasbeen one of the guys that once I
announced that this show is happening, everybody's like oh
man, I can't wait for this one. I can't wait for this one.
We have got Eron Hatchett AKA Norae Havoc on the show today.

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Man I'm stoked. Yeah, and I'm sure, I'm sure the
listeners, if you've been payingattention, you've heard him
mentioned several times in past episodes and you know, it's
gonna be exciting, you guys, very talented, very talented
shoot wrestler. So I mean.
Shooter. Yeah, it's it's a gonna be
exciting. Yeah, and, and he's a legit

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shooter. That's the that's the fun part
of it, man. And you know, I just am excited
to hear his story. I know he's got a lot of a lot
of story to tell. And you know, I mean, the guy
started out with the Jarretts and ended up a hero killer.
I mean, honestly just had a great career.
But we'll let him tell his story.
You know, just excited to get toit today.

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But I'm, I'm happy that we're going to have him on and I want
to hear his story. So I tell you what, why don't we
play some commercials and bring Eron Hatchet on?
What do you say? That sounds great man, I'm
looking forward to it. Yeah, absolutely.
We'll be right back after these messages with Iran Hatchett are.
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man. All right, we are back with more
from the Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling podcast.
And Jared, I told him, didn't I?Didn't I tell him?
You told him. I told him, Iran Hatchett, Norae
Havoc is on the show today. When I said in the beginning
that this guy's done some stuff,I was not lying.

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You know how I'm going to prove it?
I'm going to prove it right now with the man himself, Mr. Norae
Havoc, Iran Hatchett. Welcome to the show, brother.
How you doing? Oh man, I'm doing good, thanks
for having me. On, of course, man, Glad to have
you on. Now let me ask you that.
Is this the first podcast you'veever done?
It is. Yes, Sir.
We've got a rookie here. I love it.

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Yeah. I still feel like a rookie too
so. We're all rookies, man.
Anyway, it's good to have you onyour very first podcast and
we're so appreciative that it's ours.
So we always start with the man himself, Plastic Chic, and his
first question of the show kind of sets the tone.
Go ahead all. Right.

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So this is basically just a question that's going to let us
get to know you, let the audience get to know you.
It's going to know your influences wrestling.
Got you. In a four or five, four or five
guys, you're Mount Rushmore wrestling.
Who influenced you? Who you liked, however it may
be. Got you.
So for for me, my, my, my Rushmore is I got to start with

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Macho Man Randy Savage. I was a big Macho Man Randy
Savage fan back in the day when I when I got to meet him and do
some interaction when he was, hewas as he actually talks that
way. It's it's so that is definitely
Randy Poppo when you see him, but he's going to be my first

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one on Mount Rushmore. I just as far as having
everything that you want as a wrestler, he can wrestle.
He has the charisma, he has an interview.
So it's definitely him on top for for my first pick, my first
choice, my next one is it. So as a smaller guy, you know
the under 6 footer. So Rey Mysterio and Eddie

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Guerrero, man, those guys are just great what they brought to
the table and especially Ray because when he came along, no
one was really seeing an under 6footer that they could draw you
money. They just didn't see it that
way. And I think he really changed
the way you looked at some shorter guys and, and how they
were. And Jerry, Jerry loved shorter

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guys. I mean, he was a smaller guy.
He wasn't a tall guy. So he loved smaller guys.
But to see him go to New York and, and, and what he did there
was just, it's just awesome the way he he put some of the
smaller guys on the map and the way he made us look.
Same with Eddie. Eddie wasn't a very tall guy.
He was a big, thick guy, but he was a very tall guy.
And I loved his charisma. I love what he brought to the

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entertainment side of it. He's probably unmatched in that.
And then the last one, I'm goingto say Ron Simmons.
The reason why is. Yeah, so, so the thing about Ron
Simmons for someone like me, because until he went to WWF at
the time and they gave him that gimmick that they did, he
wasn't, you didn't see a lot of black people, a lot of black

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wrestlers that were just wrestlers.
There was always a gimmick that came with it.
But he wasn't again, he was Ron Simmons.
He became the first black world heavyweight champion as Ron
Simmons. Not As for Rude, but not as, you
know, anything other than what Ron Simmons were.
So that was for people like me that big to see the hey man,
we're regular. We're just like everybody else.

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We do this. So definitely Ron Simmons is
going to be my 4th one that's onthe my Rushmore aggressions.
I love that, yeah. That's awesome, man, that you
got some great picks there and Ilove the Ron Simmons pick.
I mean, the man's a heck of an athlete.
Played football. Florida State, you know, it was
a just he just, he's just a mountain of a man.

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Yeah. Eddie Guerrero, you know the you
know, the thing I sometimes it hurts me about Eddie Guerrero is
I don't think he's got the respect he was he has when he
was alive. He's got it more after his
death. That's true.
That's more people are invested in him after he died.
That 97 Halloween Havoc matched with human Ray Mysterio.

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That's just that's like poetry in motion.
Yeah, well, they had a series ofmatches in that year that was
just awesome. So yeah, yeah, man, those two
guys, they they were, they were over for me.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know, it kind of go off of
what you were saying about blackwrestlers and gimmicks.
You had Kamala, you had like Bobo Brazil, who, you know, like

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apparently all black wrestlers had the hardest heads in the
world. So you you always had the head
butt. And I mean, you know, you they
couldn't all be JYD, who literally was the original John
Cena in like he only needed fivemoves or less.
A man could not wrestle, but I guarantee you he could sell out
arenas, you know, and that's so JYD is kind of like the the

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exception to the rule, whereas Ron Simmons was more of like
you're all around. He could talk, he could walk, he
could do the stuff in the ring. He had charisma.
He, you know, other than that horrible early gimmick they gave
him in the WWEI think he pretty much had great gimmicks and he
was just an I mean, Doom man. Who doesn't love Doom, by the

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way? With Yeah, I mean, come on, you
know. I'll tell you a funny story on
JYD. So the first time I met him, I
was with the Jarretts and he sawme in the locker room and he
looks at mix Miss Texas and he goes, that's your son.
And he's like, no. So and then, then the next time
he was we were at a, it was a municipal auditorium Nashville.

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And it was, it was me and this guy Jim Dodson, who used to be,
he used to be the head of security for the WF back in the
day. So Jim was actually a guy that I
helped train, but it was me and him.
I will do. I was a heel.
He was a baby and Yoshiquan Chris Champion was like the
special guest referee who didn'thave a gimmick to use.
I was going to use a gimmick to try to cheat and didn't have

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anything so scary. Sherry was there and so and she
and she is just a nice person, man.
I think she was awesome. One of the greatest?
Seriously. Exactly, just you meet her man,
she's just so she's just normal and, you know, inviting when you
talk to her. But she said, hey, take this and
take this up like some like someducks and it's going to look

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like some brass nugs. You take it out, use the
gimmick. So we're going to do the end and
and Jim Dodson's a big guy. So I go to throw a punch and his
big arm hits my arm. The gimmick flies out of my hand
and goes out into the crowd. I'm like, Oh no, So they got to
give it this base and and I'm going to tell you what it was.
It was. So she had a tampon and she

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taped it up like a she taped it up and make it look like brass
knucks. I'm like somebody, you know,
find this in the crowd. There's no weight to it, you
know there's nothing to. It yeah, there's nothing to it.
And so we got we got to the backman and Junkyard dog who was
there, he was kind of booking. He man, he laid into me.

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He was like, man, if you're going to use a gimmick, make
sure it's real. And I was like, yes, Sir, yeah.
Yeah, that was always my fear asa manager was losing the gimmick
because, you know, constantly I was playing Jerry Rice to the
guys, Joe Montana, you know whatI mean?
I was constantly catching that thing.
And brother, I was so scared. One time, I can't remember who

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it was, maybe Jason Nesmith, I think chucked it to me and he
really chucked it. And I had to do like a the Lambo
leap and grab that thing before the chain went.
Now, thankfully it was a chain, you know, so it wouldn't have
been that bad, but of course it's still bad.
But, you know, still, yeah, man,that's, that was my biggest
nightmare was that that me causing that to happen, you

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know? Yeah, mine came true.
So. That's awesome.
Wow well, you started us off with a great story.
I'm I'm stoked about the rest ofthis show.
So I tell you what let's let's slow the roll on that and let's
go all the way back to the very beginning here.
So OK, now a lot of people know that are listening right now,

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but some of them may not. But what I want to do is I want
to talk about where were you born?
Yeah. What high school did you go to?
I know you were a stud and wrestling, but talk a little bit
about your high school days and where you from.
Well, I'm from, I'm from Nashville, so and I went to
Hillsboro, Hillsboro High Schooland, and I was always a football

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and baseball guy up until my freshman year and I dropped
baseball and I didn't add amateur wrestling until my
sophomore year. And then the, the good thing was
that my sophomore year when I came out, I faced a bunch of
seniors and juniors that have been doing it for a long time.
So I got a lot of good experience.
My or my, I'm sorry, my junior year when I started and I was, I

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was not good my first year and for whatever reason, my senior
year, it all came together. My first year I went six and
12/6 wins 12 and then the next year I went 2072 and it flipped
out and it was quick and just for whatever reason the second
year just clicked to me. Yeah, wow.
So what weight class were you in?

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So I went 135 and then my senioryear I went 140.
So luckily I was a guy that didn't, I never cut weight.
I never had to cut weight. Sometimes I had to gain weight
to get up so I didn't have to dothe the bag or anything like
that. Yeah, Jared, you, you wrestled
in high school. I was, I was nothing special,

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but I had to do, I had to do 1 of each.
Once I had to cut weight and jumping jacks in the shower
sweat to death. I run on the bus on the way to
the other high school and then Ihad to eat like 4 cheeseburgers
and drink a full Gatorade one time before the game.
I've been on both sides. Of it man, God bless you on the

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having the cut weight because that's that's actually guys like
that kids like, yeah, I can't dothat man.
I don't know how you guys do that and spitting in the cup
trying to get that last little Oz right off of you.
You know, and Jared, you were wrestling in the upper weights
too, the heavier weights, so that even then in high school,
those guys are men. You know what I mean?
And I'm not knocking your weightrange because those wiry tough

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ones, you know, those are the kids you can't ever pin down
because their shoulders never, you know, stop moving.
But anyway, yeah, I knew you allhad that connection there.
But anyway, so obviously you're you're you turn into a wrestling
star. You you turn into a really
talented person in that sport inhigh school.
Did you go on to state? Several times I would assume.

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I went to state my senior year. I end up getting 3rd and then
after I graduated, 'cause when Igraduated, I was 17 and I
actually signed up, went to Marine Corps.
I graduated and three days laterI was going to Paris Island.
So I went to reserve. So I didn't go regular Marine
full time. Yeah.
And then after that I did some. I did.

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I went to junior nationals. And so somebody convinced me
say, hey, man, take down to yourthing.
You need to you need to go into freestyle.
I said, you know what, let's do it.
And I did it, man. I've won a couple of matches.
And then I got to one guy and I don't know what happened, but
I've never seen anybody move that fast.
He was behind me and next thing you know, I'm counting the
lights on the on the ceiling. And he sent me that quick and I

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go, you know what? I don't know if I want to keep
doing this. I've never been picked up
before. So it it was like, hey man, this
dude just pick me up. So, yeah, yeah.
That's brutal. Yeah, that's a realization right
there. It is realization and and
rational. You man, you can be good, but
it's usually always someone better than you.
It it can be hunger and you can go, you can go undefeated for

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three years and then you face somebody that that just happens
to be better than you. That's like the MMA man, it's
UFC and all that. It's like you always see
somebody that you think is the best ever, you know, and and
then they get beat, you know, it's just how it is, but.
One shot take you out. Yeah, I never thought my man
Cormier was going to lose. And then Jon Jones comes along,
you know, and then and then I started liking Jon Jones.

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And then I mean, well, you know,it's how I got you.
So. So when did you get to like,
start liking professional wrestling?
Man, I had always been a professional wrestling.
My grandmother, she was from Columbia, TN and, and we used to
go there on the weekend and she'd always have it on.
She'd always have members wrestling on.
And then when I got to high school, a buddy of mine ended up

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being my best friend. He came to class our freshman
year and he had pictures from the fairgrounds and I thought
that was the coolest thing, thatI'd never been to a live
wrestling. And so he he took me down and a
friend of mine, they knew Tracy Smothers and I went to go talk
to Tracy because they had a picture.
I went to go get a sign. And if if no one, if you are in

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wrestling and you did not meet Tracy Smothers, you have missed
out on a huge opportunity for one of the greatest people
you're just going to talk to. And he was man, he was just so
cool. But I was hooked when I went.
So the first match I went and saw and it was Phil Hickerson
against Scott Steiner. And I remember Phil Hickerson
slammed Scott Steiner. I remember the ring sounded so

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loud. I was like, man, that had to
hurt. But I was I was so excited to to
be there. And I started going to the
matches, to the fairgrounds withmy and his name is James started
going to to the fag runs with him.
He actually, when we when we I wanted to train him, we wanted
to be A tag team. It just didn't work out for him
that he stayed into it. So that's how I, you know, I was

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really into wrestling to pro wrestling.
That's cool, man, that's cool. That's.
That's, that's always, it's, it's so surprising to me always
how many times you hear somebodysay, you know, my grandmother.
I mean, it's just my, it's mind blowing to me and Jimmy because
our grandmother. Like wrestling at all.
So no, you're not a fan at all. But our uncles did.
That's the thank God for that, you know?

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So we got it some way. We just didn't get a natural
grandmother route. But you know, now.
Do you remember ever watching any?
I have to. Shane used to tell me stories
about how the Jarretts used to run in a Kwanzaa Hut in
Columbia. Did you see any of those shows
ever or was it before your time?No, yeah, it was before my time.
That was before my time. Gotcha.

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Well, I bring that up because the obvious next step in this
one is getting into wrestling. Now, obviously you're liking
wrestling all your life. Become a wrestling star in high
school, go to the reserves, you know all that.
But then what leads you getting into the actual becoming a pro
wrestler? So I I got in two different

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ways. So I actually got the Jared's
second I got to do. There's a group out of Japan
called UWF at the time and they were what's called a work and
shoot. So it was a submission wrestling
group. Was it the pancrase style of
wrestling? Exactly.
It was exactly that style of wrestling.
George Weinbrough. That kind of thing.

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Anyway, I'll show. That kind of no, no, no, you're
good. So Gary Valiant actually knew
Gary Valiant in high school. He wrestled at Pearl Cone.
Another wrestling star? Yeah.
Yeah, man, he was the only one from his school that made it to
state. So that's when I met him and
kind of got good friends with Hamilton because he would come
to Hillsborough to wrestle with us.
He wrestled 152, I believe, if I'm not mistaken.

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But I saw him one day and I asked him what he was doing.
He told me he was wrestling. I was like, are you kidding?
Yeah, man. He said, hey, there's a guy
named Tom Burton if you want to talk to him and he can kind of
get you started. So he got me hooked up with Tom
Burton and we started. Originally we were doing shoot
style wrestling and they broughtme in to spar with Garry's

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brother. Oh, Billy.
Yeah. So Billy, Yeah.
So I, I used to sparkability as I was learning, so my amateur
background was there, but my submission was not there.
So I could take Billy down. But it was not a big deal for
Billy. You know how to make me tap in a
couple seconds? So.
Billy was good, man. I love Billy.
Billy is a great guy, by the way.

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So I'm doing that for them. And so Tom is actually showing
me things, what we call Americanstyle wrestling, what you see
here. And I'm also training for
submission for the meantime. A buddy of mine that I work with
was the first cousin for of Jerry Jarrett.
He said, hey man, they got a wrestling school.
Do you want to go check it out? And he goes, hey, I'm going to

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send you down and talk to my aunt, which is Christine
Jarrett. Oh yeah, let me do that.
So that's How I Met them. So I went down and talked to
Christine and she was great. She introduced me to Jeff 1st
and then to Mr. Jarrett. Jerry Jarrett.
And I talked to him, he said, hey, once you come to the to the
Sunday they had the, the workoutsection was at the gym that was

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in Hendersonville. Hendersonville, I do believe,
yeah. So that's how I got started with
them. The first session that I showed
up, man, I had I had like 30-40 bucks on me and you had to join
the gym and I only had enough money to join the gym.
And I remember joining the gym and I went to Jerry.
Jerry said, listen, Mr. Jared, I'm sorry, I only got enough
money to join the gym. I don't have enough for this

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first session. And he said, you run, don't
worry about it, let's just get you in there and let's see what
you can do. I said, OK, and so the, the
first thing we did, and this is really how I got in with the
Jared. So the first thing we did, I'm a
shooter. And so you you take a bump, you
basically take an arm drag and Itook an arm drag and and you
know, I hit the mat when I come through and Jerry, Jared just

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flips out. He's like, oh, that's how you do
it. And he's just like, this is what
I want to see you guys do. So then the next time I have to
give an arm drag. Well, my arm drag is a shoot on
drag. I don't I was doing a working on
drag and it was again Jason, whois Jerry, Jerry's youngest son,
and I gave him on drag and literally threw him across the

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ring and I remember Jeff going well, damn, So I didn't know it
working on drag. I just knew a shoot on dragon.
I threw him and so it it it kindof impressed him and at the end
of you know, the session, Jerry,Jerry said, hey, listen, how
about if you would train Jason amateur, I'll train you pro
free. I said, well, that's like a good
deal, but that's how I got with you.

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That's. Awesome.
OK, OK, I got to hear this before we get to more of the
Jared's because this story is going great.
I need to hear your very best Tom Burton impersonation.
You're right. You can't.
You can't do that, man. You look trying to Hulk out like
Hulk Hogan. He actually told me I want that.
Don't Hulk Hogan on me like that.
Yeah. So.

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Real good though. But he, you know, he has that
scraggly kind of deep voice. Rough voice.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's so funny we hear all these interviews.
Jared, do you ever feel like it's just a puzzle with all
these pieces is coming together and you hear like now we're
hearing your side of things And I just feel like we heard Ben
Jordan or crawl or all these different guys, Shane Morton,
all these guys. And we're all finally putting

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pieces together to where I feel like I'm I'm slowly becoming a
Middle Tennessee expert. So anyway, anyway, on to another
subject. But Long story short, you're
with the Jarrett. So you're training Jason and
shoot and you're learning from them in the work.
So now when it when it comes down to it, how did you separate
the two? You talk about your arm drags a

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shoot, but how did you slowly learned?
And maybe this is too much and if you don't want to give it all
away but whatever. How did you slowly separate the
2? Man, I tell you, it wasn't that
hard. You know, a couple of sessions I
had it and you know, I still hadthe Jared I was working with and
I still had Tom Burton. So Tom and I actually end up
having to falling out. But but the beginning was great

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with Tom because Tom actually took me around to get me started
in outlaw shows. OK.
So I mean, and the the camp was in the camp was great because we
had good people that came through and talked you stuff.
TomTom Pritchard came through Tom Pritchard, let me tell you.
So Tom Pritchard gave me a compliment to until this day, I,

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I don't think I've ever had a compliment as good as what he
said. And so Tom was a great trainer
because at the end of the session, he would always
encourage you to, to keep going.It's like, hey, man, this is not
a, this is not an easy business.Taking these bumps is, is it's
hard. I mean, even running the ropes,
you have to learn to get, you have to get a tolerance to
hitting the ropes. And so he would have a good at

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the end of session, just a just a pep talk and he, he would talk
about where he came from and hisMarshall background, things like
that. And I remember one time he just
kind of threw and he goes, not everybody gets it naturally,
like Iran. And it, it wasn't one of those
things that that made me like itactually like would brought a
tear to my eye. But nobody had never said

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anything like that to me before.So I thought, man, I don't
think, I still don't think I've ever had a compliment as good as
as when he said that. No, because it was like right
time, right place. You probably were needing that
even though it wasn't like something that, OK, I'm going to
quit today. But still that small amount of
encouragement from somebody likeDoctor Tom, dude, I mean, I

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mean, seriously, that's great. You know, so that also because
the way I make that, you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes
compliments, especially out in the open, end up getting you
heat. Did that get you heat with
anybody else because you it was calm.
It didn't meant everybody was cool in the camp.
I mean, that's cool. And if you didn't hear, you
know, like Crawl. So that's why I first met Crawl.

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And Crawl is one of my best friends.
That's why I first met Crawl andthen Glenn.
Of course, Kane was there at thetime.
Kane was great by the way, Kane was, but he was funny because he
would like if you do something with him, he was very he because
he's such a big guy, he would think that he's hurting you.
And so I remember watching this film of one of the sessions with

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me and, and Timmy with Crawl andhe's giving me a, a, a shoulder
tackle and he was so worried that he hurt me.
And I'm like, man, I'm all right.
But he was that type of, he was that type of person.
But no, there was no at the school or anything like that,
man. I mean, everybody enjoyed being
there. They just, I think everybody
enjoyed just kind of having a piece of that world.

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Yeah. If, if that makes sense.
You know, we, we weren't in the business, we're in the locker
room, but having a piece of thatworld just been able to take a
bump and things like that. Yeah, that's awesome, man.
That's a star-studded class too.That sounds awesome.
I love that. So tell us about.
Like your first, like what you call your first match and like
what promotion or whatever that was for.
So my first match was in Shelbyville, TN and it's

(26:13):
probably my top two or three matches I've ever had.
It was Chris turns. Yeah, man, it it was a great
match. And I tell you one thing that
that Tom Burton. So Tom Burton was really the
person that that was do I say doas I say?
Not as I do. And he would always say listen
to the person who was the veteran.

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And you know, a lot of times back then, the veteran with the
heel, the baby face was the the more green guy.
And that was that that case. So I really just had to listen
to to Chris current man, he guided me.
He we had a a great match. I remember beforehand he was
like, hey, man, a lot of people don't want to take this leg
drop. Will you take this the lead drop
off the top rope? I'm like, yeah, man, it sounds
cool. So at the end of that match,

(26:56):
man, I I mean, it was it was just a like I said, it was on my
top three matches and it was just basically listening for for
the veteran guy to tell me what to do and just following his
instruction. That was Chris.
So that it was a good match. That's awesome.
That's very cool. Yeah.
Do you by chance remember anybody else that was on the

(27:16):
card that night? Do you remember anybody in the
locker room that was around? Well, The funny thing is, Trace,
that's so Tracy Smothers always calls me Shooter.
He was there that night. And so there was somebody that
that knew that I was an amateur wrestler and they wanted to try
to put some hands on me and theywere just playing around.
I didn't feel like playing. So sometimes you just got to
take somebody down and put them in a hole.

(27:38):
And so after that, Tracy startedcalling me Shooter.
So. I remember he was there.
I think it was the first time I met Wolfie.
I don't think I met Jamie yet. I met Wolfie because I don't
think they had quite started PG 13 yet.
So was he still Air Wolfers? Yeah, he was Air Wolf then.
Yeah, he was. Air Wolf.
Skinny little kid. It's funny.

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Yeah, those pictures. Crappy Raptors.
Yeah, yeah, seriously. All right.
Now, obviously you're working inShelbyville, which, you know,
again, the outlaw promotions that that existed around the
Memphis loop. But the biggest thing is, is you
actually end up becoming a USWA wrestler.
Now, talk about that. What led you to the USW?

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So from that moment to leading you to the USWA, how, how did
you get there? So while I was training, Jerry
Jarrett always wanted to bring me and it was it was me and
another guy from Kentucky that was coming down the train and he
wanted both of us. But the problem is he wanted one
to be healed, one to be babyface.
So he was, he didn't really knowhow to do it.

(28:42):
So he didn't know how to bring me in yet.
So I didn't come in. And matter of fact, before, I
don't think he knew I was wrestling because I was going to
the camp for about a month and Ihad started outlaw shows.
I remember going to Jeff and say, hey man, they don't let you
know. I started outlaw shows.
And I thought he was going to bemad.
He was like exciting. He's like, man, that's what you
need to do. You need to do that and get some
experience. So that was great.
But how I got with them was I went to Memphis with Wolfie and

(29:08):
Jamie one night and, and so we, and I wasn't on the car.
I I drove them down there. Is this the famous story where
you make them get in the back ofthe truck?
This wasn't this time, it was another time.
But yeah, so I made them get in the back.
They wanted to smoke weed in my truck.
And I said, listen man, you can't have that smell in my
truck. I, I have my family here
sometime. So you know, my, my aunt, my, my

(29:30):
mother's in it just so you can'tso.
And it is like, you know, January so freezing outside.
So I said y'all got to make a choice.
They put blankets on them and they froze.
And they come back, I pull over,they come back in.
But yeah. And so and Whoopie, man,
whoopie's funny. So Whoopie always tried to get

(29:51):
me to smoke with him. And I was like, no, but he
always did dip. And I was like, hey man, can I
try dip? And he's like, no, you can't
handle this man. But.
You want me to smoke weed all the time?
So yeah. And I can't.
Or maybe out behind the store, you know, but.
Like maybe not. I don't think you want this dip
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My Pro wrestling. Every other Thursday, wherever
you listen to podcasts. Rolled down with them and I'd
showed up and it was someone that was supposed to have A tag
match with Chris Michaels. And I can't remember who was.

(31:16):
They didn't show up. And Eddie Martin said, hey,
you're on. You got your gears.
Like, yeah, I got my gear. And so that was my first.
That was my first match in Memphis with and I want to say
it was against, it was me and Chris Michael, Chris Michaels
against the masses of terror. Yeah, that's it.
Yeah. Yep, that's it.
I think I saw that. Yeah, that's.

(31:37):
Crazy. Yeah, man.
So that was my first night. And then that Tuesday, Jared
Jarrett called me and said, hey,you're ready to get started.
And then that's how that got started.
Yeah, that's cool, man. I mean, you worked some great
dudes there. I mean, one of them I got to
hear about cuz I'm a big fan of his.

(31:57):
I think we all are in this business who, who isn't a fan of
this guy? And unfortunately he's passed
now. But talk about working with
Brian Christopher and just maybeyour interactions with him
overall. Brian is a guy you're gonna,
you're gonna have to say Brian is Brian.
So certain people in the business, I mean, once you get
to and he's cool. I mean, he doesn't, he's not

(32:19):
like just starting trouble with you, but every once while he
could be a little difficult. But Brian was cool and, and you
know, and I got a funny story that you probably don't know
about it and you're probably going to bring it up later, but
I'll probably go ahead and say it because Brian was, was kind
of, I thought was instrumentalist.
And it's the, the altercation between me and PG13.

(32:40):
Bring it up, brother, Bring it up that.
Was so all right. So the way it works is you know,
you have these spot shows Thursday and Friday, what you do
on Thursday you're going to do on Friday and back then the the,
the, the locker rooms are separated.
You're not in the same locker room.
And that's that's you know, that's how I was back then.
So the finish was it was me and woofie and a singles match.

(33:03):
Jamie goes to interfere. They shoot me all double
clothesline and Doug give them double clothesline.
They bail. Well, that's not what happened.
They gave me a double clothesline and they left and
just took me cute. So then I get back to the the
locker room and I and I asked Frank Maria said, Hey, Frank.
I said what what happened to theto the finishing?

(33:24):
And he goes, man, Jamie said youmessed it up.
Like how do you mess it up? So bud, just kind of pass it
off. So the next night we're getting
the ring and me and Wolfie go tostart and Jamie goes, Hey, don't
F up the spot. And I went what?
So it it kind of put me in an atmosphere, put me in the yeah,
hot. So then I start taking Ji Mean
Wolfie down the amateur. After a couple of times, Whoopi

(33:47):
is like, hey, this ain't right. It's like, man, what what are
you doing? And so I remember we kind of
rolled to the edge of the mat and I see Jamie now Jamie is the
one I want. I just happen to be in the ring
with Whoopi, right? So Jamie is the one I want.
And so I go out to Jamie and maybe we get into it and we go
into the and it said like at theschool.

(34:08):
So we go into the stands and we're shooting, and I got a
hold, and next thing I know, both locker rooms empty out,
including Jeff and Brian. And so they come up to me.
Yeah. And so they come up to me and
Eden, Marlon goes Iran, if I seeone more shoot, move out here,
you're fired. So I instantly get up and stop,

(34:30):
right? So but me and Wolfie go back
into the ring and we finished the match.
So we didn't talk for a few daysand then we had another singles
match the next week and we get into the ring and Wolfie goes,
hey man, what you want to do? And I go, man, just Russell.
Well, after that we were cool. We were friends again.
And so we talked about it and he's like, man, what was up?

(34:52):
And I said man, I told him. I said, you know, Jamie was
being Jamie and he goes, man, wethought Jeff put you up to some
amateur stuff And I was like, no, I thought maybe Brian had
put you guys up to something. So we bought for years and we
talked about it out too long ago.
We both for years thought they said he thought that Jay that

(35:13):
Jeff had put something up for meand and I thought that Bryan had
put them up to do something. But really, it was just me being
upset with Jamie. Yeah, and Jamie, I mean, that's
just Wolfie's cross to bear right there.
What? I was going to say, I was going
to say Wolfie has has bared thatcross many times with Jamie.
Jamie's great. Jamie's great.
And I'll say this about Jamie, and I love Jamie to death and

(35:35):
he's probably my my top one bestmatch was against Jamie.
So Jamie, when you sit down withJamie, because Jamie is usually
on 100 when he comes in, you know, 110, yes.
But when you sit down one-on-onewith Jamie, when I say that he
is smart and he is intelligent and he knows the business, he's
been in it for a while. And you sit down with with Jamie

(35:58):
like that, it's a new side that you see of them.
So yeah, I would say people, youknow, you see the one side of
Jamie, but when you sit down one-on-one, you see how smart he
is. Totally.
And he's honestly a daggone savant about this business.
Yeah. But the problem is he's not only
a savant about what's in the ring, He's about what's the
other life, too. He knows the life he.

(36:20):
And if you got to think about it, he's Bill Dundee's son.
He has been in the business since he came out of his mom's
womb. You know, he's probably, he's
probably forgot more than most people will ever know about this
business. And trust me.
So I'm going to. I'm going to be Wolfie real
quick. OK?
So hey. Hey, Eron.

(36:44):
Hey. Hey, Eron.
So I'm pretty sure I figured it out, but it was it was Frank and
Jeff. They were gassing you up in the
back, right, to shoot on me because because they knew I
wrestled a little in high schooland that was what they were
doing, right? They they gassed you up and told
you to shoot on me, right? That's.
That's. Yeah, that's exactly what he's

(37:04):
thought. And I'm telling you, anybody who
has ever come on our show, whether they have a connection
to you or not, that story inadvertently comes up.
I bet we've talked about it 5 or6 times.
We've done 112 episodes and I guarantee it's come up at least
10 times. And.
Yeah, it's hilarious. And, and he'll bring it up and
whether from Frank's perspectiveor Jeff's perspective, and he

(37:27):
has kept that in his brain that they basically gassed you up.
Now Hugh explaining the whole story, it makes much more sense.
But with that being said, I mean, he's told me stories like
y'all ended up in the crowd. Jamie's whacking you in the back
of the head with the hubcap. Do you remember any of that?
No, the hubcap never came in andI didn't like no, yeah.

(37:49):
Yeah, OK, So you would have remembered that.
Yeah. No.
Anyway, so no, Frank, no Jeff gassing you up.
It was literally something like you.
You just. Couldn't literally spoofing
would change? Yeah, it was literally Jamie
saying that. So it was, yeah, it was, it was,
it was me hearing that and it and it, it triggered me, I would

(38:10):
say. Yeah, that's a legendary.
I didn't mess the spot up. That wasn't the finish.
You, you know, you didn't do thefinish.
You didn't shoot me off the, thethe rope.
So. Right, right.
They took the DQ and and really put you in a bad mood, so let's
just do. It Yeah, no, but no.
No. What?
I would have to say one thing onWoofie's impersonation.
Did you got to call me rerun? Because y'all, they always call

(38:31):
me Rerun. OK, rerun.
Yeah, sorry. Hey, rerun.
Yeah, gotcha. Okay, all right, I like that
rerun, man wow, okay, is that from the show?
That what's? Happening.
So that's for a year from what'shappening because that's what
Jamie would call me all the time.
Oh my Lord, Yeah, well, better. That than.
A lot of other things, but. Yeah, yeah, Jamie, Jamie.

(38:54):
Jamie Jamian, Yeah, that's a, that's a new statement right
there. You know how like Ric Flair says
he's nature and when he's out partying and stuff?
Yeah, I think Jamie Jamian is, is also a whole other.
It's not necessary. It can be partying, but it can
be also other stuff. So anyway, yeah, yeah.
So you're out of sea yut? I see two names, Lex Luger and

(39:15):
the big Boss Man. Tell me something about that.
So when with USWA it and it was at a great time that I, I went
when I was with them because they had to deal with WWF and
they were sending guys down. And so being in the locker room,
man, it is kind of it's it's it's AI wouldn't say
overwhelming, but you see peoplethat you didn't think you would

(39:37):
meet this early on in in in doing what you're doing.
So the big boss, man, I sat right next to him in the locker
room and he had been off for a while, I think had an injury and
he was just coming back. And he said, Hey, you know, he
was doing this before he went back on the main road and he was
trying to make sure I had it back and I was nobody.

(39:58):
And he looks at me and goes, Hey, man, you might watch my
match. Tell me what you think.
And so it was like, dude, are you serious?
Like I'm nobody. And so I watched this match and
we came back and we talked aboutit like.
Like, like, man, you have misseda step and he talked to me in
the entire night and he was justlike a normal person, man.

(40:18):
You wouldn't you wouldn't think of that.
You wouldn't think that he'd even talk to you.
But he's just a normal guy, man.And it was awesome to to just
sit there and and just I mean, we didn't even talk that much
about wrestling. It's just about all the stuff
football and kind of told me, you know, him getting into it
and into the business and and yeah, man, it was great.
Lex Luger, on the other hand, wesat next to each other could be

(40:43):
in the. Now I would say the cool thing
was neither one of them had their own locker room that they
had their own locker room. They were we're in the big
locker room with everybody. Usually it was the two of them,
I do believe, and you kind of went to one or the other and the
women had one. And he would he just, he
literally sat right next to me and I think the only thing he

(41:04):
asked me because he's how to usetape.
What's funny is that I use prefab and Danny Davis used to
get onto me like, man, you're a shooter.
Why you're using prefab? Just tape your hand up.
So leg lover was like, hey, man,can I get them to tape?
And I gave him some tape. He didn't say thank you.
He didn't acknowledge. And we sat there man for hours.

(41:24):
And he he never talked to me. But I do know I did notice one
thing. He wasn't as big physically as I
thought he was going to be. He was just really cut up.
So I guess it depends on you know what, what time I was
seeing him. But he wasn't as large as I
thought he was going to be when I first saw him.
But yeah, night and day when youthe 2 when I met those two.

(41:45):
Yeah, I've always thought the big boss man seemed like he
would be like he was just a niceguy.
And I've also, and I've also heard that Lex Luger, even from
his mouth, he wasn't very he he wasn't like a people person.
No, he wasn't. I mean, he kind of he was.
He let me know that that he was,without saying it, that he was

(42:08):
like a Zulier and I was nobody. Whereas, you know, Big Boss Man
was but much more of a real person.
Right, he was right trailer he just had.
That. Yeah, exactly.
Let me ask you this, what year was this?
Was this around like 94? This was 93, this was around 93
or so because when I first started with the Jareds, they

(42:31):
didn't know, they didn't know what to do.
And, and so the, the whole thingwith the camp was it started I
think originally as it's really just a money grab for Jeff to
make extra money. He was, he was mostly doing the
camp. And I think it kind of morphed
that they wanted to say hey, we can show some guys from the camp
to get other people in. So they weren't, they weren't

(42:51):
really sure what to do with me yet.
They didn't do much until one night when when Billy Travis
didn't show up in which was he was known to do.
We were in Arkansas and I remember I had to wrestle 3
times. It was it was me and a Wolfie
and the singles. It was me and Miss Texas and a
mixed tag. And then when Billy didn't show

(43:14):
up and he was working, they wereworking.
Let's see if Jeff Chair and Billy Travis and angle with Rick
King and Steve Doll. And so we had Papa Shango there
that night from WBF. So.
Taker. Yeah.
So they said, hey, won't you puthim in place of Billy Travis?

(43:35):
And he goes, hey, won't you let the kid do it?
And he pointed to me and that kind of made me mad because once
I had worked twice, but two, he called me a kid and it kind of
irritated me, but I think that kind of got me in.
So because we never having A tagmatch with those two and it went
pretty well. So that's when they started to
do a little bit more with me. But yeah, this was around 93,

(43:55):
maybe mid 93. OK.
Because I was thinking, you know, you're talking about Luger
kind of not being as big, but hewas definitely cut up.
I was wondering if this was maybe around the steroid trial,
but I think that was like summerof 94, if I'm not mistaken.
So yeah, yeah, I wondered if he just sized down a little bit,
but also I do remember him goingthrough that phase of really

(44:17):
being more cut up than large wouldn't.
He have that bad wreck. He had a bad wreck too.
I'm not 100% on that, Jared. You're the Jamie, you're the
Rogan Jamie of this show. So which?
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(45:45):
earlier and I got to bring this back up because I, I was always
enthralled by this guy. When I would watch Monday night
raw, I would see this guy in thecrowd as as a as a security
guard. And he looked like that on road
warrior animal with a backwards Kangal cap and a Fanny pack.
And he always had that black like you know what they call,
what is it they call it now, butit's like a compression type

(46:08):
shirt on and. Yeah.
Talk about now, was this similarto around that time or was this
a before a little after working with Jim Dawson?
So Jim Dodson so Jim Dodson actually came through the camp.
Jim Jim Dodson was good friends with Mark the Undertaker, with
the Harris brothers, Primetime, Brian Lee.
They were all really good, good friends.

(46:30):
So they pulled through the they came through the, the he came
through the camp, actually came there a day I wasn't there.
And I think the Harris boys did the camp themselves.
So the next week I end up meeting Jim and I remember
telling the Jareds, I said, hey,it's a, this is a pretty big guy
and I want to take him out and try to, he needs some

(46:52):
experience. You know, he can take the bumps
because I ain't just need some psychology.
And so I actually started takinghim out and I met him and I
started bouncing for him. Used to be a club downtown
Nashville called Mer Bulls. And that's why I met Brian Lee.
And so the first night I went down there, you know, he said,
hey, do you want to come down? And I said, yeah, I'm going to
come down. And it was, it was like a

(47:13):
upscale restaurant up top. And there was a bar below.
And I remember walking in and I see him and he is literally
dragging a guy by the foot. And right behind him is Brian
Lee with two guys, one under each arm.
And they're taking these guys out and they take him outside.
And I'm like, what in the world?The first thing Jim goes is,

(47:33):
hey, man, you you want a job? Not wrestling.
Like, man, there's like a Roadhouse out.
So let me think about it. Jim Dodson was great.
He actually introduced me to theUndertaker.
Undertaker had a birthday, he was in town and him Jim, some
guys got a got a limo one night.And so Jim goes, hey man, you

(47:54):
want to meet Mark? So I go out to meet Mark.
So hey, how you doing? It was real quick.
And so I look inside and then this limo and it's like 3 of
them and it's a bunch of girls and I went, huh, I must be on
the B squad. So I go back to work and
probably six months later, Mark is back in town.
Now I don't think he even knows my name.

(48:14):
And he's there like late, like alight late Sunday and he's there
and I walked back because Jim had told me Mark was there.
And so I walked past him and he goes Iran, you still on the B
team? And I was like he.
Knows my name. That was.
That was, that was pretty cool. But he was good friends with
them. So I got, I ended up taking him

(48:36):
to the Jareds and got got him started.
I think his first match was against Spellbinder.
Yeah, it, it wasn't a great match.
So then he ended up doing the deal and but, and of course he
and and the Harris boys were good friends and he ended up
doing the gimmick where he was their cousin.
He was Chris Harris. I mean, he was Jim Ayers and so

(48:56):
they, they kind of did that deal.
But yeah, man, Jim Dodson, he, he passed away.
He was a a really close friend of mine and and he, you know, he
and I was on the road a lot. He and I was on the road a lot
so. Man, and he was on TV more than
anybody, to be honest. Yeah.
I mean, he was consistently every.
Week. Yeah, he was.
He was the Doug Dillinger of theWWF, you know, you know that

(49:22):
that was a crazy, crazy gimmick to have there.
I didn't also know that he was awrestler, but it made total
sense by the way that he looked I.
Mean looked like. Well, they, you know.
They actually brought him up. So he did a deal with USWA and
he was the cousin of the, of theHarris twins.
They they brought him up to WB or WBF at the time.

(49:42):
It is mainly because of Mark. You know, there's sometimes it's
who you know and but they didn'tknow what to do with him.
He wasn't quite ready yet wrestling.
And I think Mark was the one that came up with the gimmick
for him to do security. So he became that on air, which
he became the personal security for Mark and Stone Cold and the

(50:03):
Rock when whenever they would docertain events.
Oh, wow, that's awesome. OK, well, we've kind of reached
a point in the career of Iran Hatchet that you took a little
break and we're going to we're going to call it a break and
that's essentially what it was. I do have a question about this
break. OK.

(50:23):
And and I don't not trying to beout of place here, but let me
just ask you a question about the break here.
So during this this break, had you been available, would do you
think you would have been in WCWor WWE?
Well, I'm gonna say this so it is.
The best compliment I've had wasfrom Tom Pritchard.
I think the second best was fromJerry Jarrett.

(50:46):
And he said if he was 6 feet tall, he'd be a millionaire
right now. So it was it was things that and
luckily, man, I will say this with with USWA, you meet a lot
of people and my time was great.And I don't remember like I

(51:06):
don't remember bad time. I don't remember anybody ever
having like just ego issues. So I mean, even from Brian Lee
saying, hey man, they're doing this thing in Knoxville, maybe I
can bring you on to there. So it was, it was there was
opportunities for me if I think if, if I was more patient.
Yeah, well, the reason I ask, yeah, and I, the reason I ask is
because 6 foot became not a big deal in a couple of in like 3 or

(51:31):
4 years, 6 foot was not as big of a deal.
You know, I always say this and I'll tell Wolfie says it too.
But I'll, I'll tell Wolfie and all them about the time PG13 was
about a year too early. And I feel like had they been
there a year later, I feel like it would have been a different
scenario for them. Granted, they had that nation
domination run. Nothing wrong with that.

(51:53):
You know, good for them. They got, you know,
opportunities and all that with ECWCW and all that.
But the reason being I'm asking that question is because like I
said, you were on the break and because of that, you know, I
just feel like I could have easily seen you at least having
a run in WCW because I feel likethere was enough guys there that

(52:13):
you could have easily, it wasn'tnecessarily the land of the
giants there, you know what I'm saying?
And and I just I could, I don't know, I've just got a crazy
feeling that I could have seen you doing something there
because guys like Dean Malenko, now I'm not Iran, please, I'm
not in any way saying you're notlike Dean Malenko, but I'm also
not putting you in that same, but you know what I'm saying.

(52:34):
But I know you were highly athletic.
You were very trained in the shooting ability, plus you also
knew how to work. I just would, would almost
question whether or not you might have had and knowing Jeff,
you know, the Harris twins, I mean, I almost feel like there
would have been a spot there foryou had, you know, had that
happened. So I don't know, that's just a
hypothetical. Who knows, we may not ever have

(52:55):
that answer. But when it comes down to it, I
just wondered if if you felt like there would have been an
opportunity there. So.
Yeah, I mean you, you hope so. You never know, you know it's
and a lot of things I think I did back then ended up being
more popular, I think because inthe the early 90s it was not
popular to wear kick pads. Yeah, I was 1 to did that.

(53:19):
I took a lot of heat from it, especially from like buddy
Wayne. Oh, Buddy Wayne.
We just don't know and so it wasnow things are, you know,
everyone's wearing kicked ass now and it's not that I started
thinking other guys are way better to meet it that started
doing and got more attention forit, but I think that look would
have got would have gotten over more.

(53:41):
So yeah, it's one of those I don't, I think because I I enjoy
my life now, my wife and my 2 girls, that I don't look back.
Question it. And question it.
So yeah. And that's a, that's a great
place to be brother. And I think 90, I would say 99%
of the pro wrestlers from your era, if they could say, I would

(54:02):
say that they called what you would say you won.
You know what I mean? You got the wife, you got the
happy life, you got the kids, you got the stable life.
You're not out there signing autographs to, to to pay your
bills now, you know what I mean?You're not, you're not broken
down. I mean, you may be hurting,
maybe, maybe not, but you're probably not hurting as bad.

(54:22):
And, and, you know, there's a lot of of upside to that Now,
again, you know, when it comes down to it, it's a woulda,
coulda shoulda type scenario. I just thought I wanted to ask
you that because all these namesare dropping about how you're
rubbing shoulders with all theseguys.
I, it just dawned on me that I felt like, you know, that might
have been something that could have happened there.

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