'Glacier' Ray Lloyd!

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Hey guys, this is former WCW wrestling star Glacier and
you're listening to Live and In Color with Wolfie D.
Hey, this is Jimmy St. host of the Live and in color with
Wolfie D podcast. Here the Life and Times of
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Nothing is off limits and nothing will be held back.
Thanks again for tuning in. Here he is, Wolfie D.
Welcome, welcome, welcome once again to live and in color.
Wolfie D. And my man Jimmy.
Across the street man. What are you doing bro?
What up? What up?
I've got Wolfie. I think I've got.

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Let's see here, there's a there's two beanies.
I've got three North Face jackets, 4 Columbia body suits.
I brought blankets. What am I missing?
Because it's going to be cold. Is that what you're trying?
To say, because it's gonna be very cold so.
It is gonna be cold because we got glacier today that it's

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gonna be a really awesome interview.
I can't wait for this one. Have you have you watched the?
Unbreakable bunch. Yeah, man.
Yeah, yeah, I'm. I'm a fan, you know?
OK, look, here's the deal. Is it Gone with the Wind?
Maybe better, because I actuallydon't really even care about
Gone with the Wind, but you knowwhat I'm saying?
Right. Exactly.
Well, you're not missing much. I mean, it's old.

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I mean, it's a classic movie. Let's not get into that, you
know what I'm saying? But.
I'm not. I'm not into old movies for
whatever reason. From what that what I gathered
from it was it reminds me of like The Expendables with
wrestlers, which I love that like that's.
My that's. All I needed, you know?
So yeah. And it and it did need more

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Gangrel, but I'll I'll address that later, OK, with Ray when we
get him on here. What a wild week, man.
We got planes falling out of thesky everywhere.
Man, what's going on? I know man.
Are you flying anywhere soon? Don't not.
Yeah, I don't want to. You don't like flying anyway.
I'm scared of heights and I hateflying.
And yeah, I'd rather drive, man.If it's if it's within 10 to 12

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hours, I'm driving. Yeah, I'm, that's my dad too.
My dad is old, so he's never flown.
But yeah, I mean, you're a road dog though, you know what I
mean? Yeah.
Your dad likes to look at things.
That's kind of how I am. Yeah, he does.
And also I think it's the control a bit too, you know,
like he's in somewhat control. But you know, I read online that

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it said like over a very large percentage, over half of the
accidents with the airplane happened during landing.
Have you heard that? No, I haven't heard that.
Also, I have heard that, I mean,percentage wise, it's safer to
travel in the air. But again, like you said with
your dad, it's a control thing for me.
Yeah, Yeah. And I've been in around 10 car

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accidents and only I think one or two was I driving.
So yeah, I won't sleep on you either, man.
That's another thing I learned. I will not go to sleep if you're
driving. I don't care how good you are.
Yeah, I mean, they'll Earnhardt,I'm not letting you.
Yeah. Not doing it.
Not doing it, man. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. But yeah man, SO1 funny thing I

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got to tell you about Wolfie andI sent you the link, but I would
love to hear your thoughts on Jamie Dundee singing The Blue
Cyclone if you don't mind. Well, my wife on that attack
about a year or so back, left him at home by myself to batch

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and at the five straight nights of TVI was ready to scream.
I called up the beard, up the party of mine.
I said, Ronnie, I ain't having areal good time.
He said why don't we go to the wrestling matches and let off a
little steam. Well, I've never seen the
matches before. When we reach out arena door,
the crab was already backed up plum out in the street.

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Yeah, they pushing each shoving like cattle, just getting in
line. What the hell of a battle.
We had to fight like the devil. But we finally got ring side
see. Well, I mean, yeah, he sang it
to me. Before and he's going to
introduce me to that song. I bet he.
Did. Yeah, listen to it.
We listen to it up and down the road forever.
And like I said, yeah, he's the one that introduced me to it.

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And I love that song. It's, it's awesome.
His rendition that you played orwhatever was, it was OK, it was
all right. But I've heard.
It live. I've heard it live, man.
I've heard it live. Well, we know Jamie's rhythm
isn't what you would say is the best and he's a double time guy.
So what I had to do? And so like let's just say this,

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I have done this similar method with you and it was fine.
You did like 2 takes and it was done with Jamie.
I just let him record it and I chopped it up and put it to the
music because I knew if we were gonna try to do what you and I
did, it wasn't gonna work. Right, right.
So hey, did you see the thing that went viral with Joey
Janella and Dylan Bostick? Did you see that?

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Yes, the the video you sent me, actually I hadn't seen it until
you sent it to me and. Yeah.
So that was a shoot. Yes.
So Flash Flanagan talked to Dylan and I actually contacted
Joey and from both of them, it'sa suit.
It's it's something that happened four years ago on

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Twitter. Evidently Joey said something on
Twitter four years ago and he knows a four year grudge just
popped up, but I guess it went viral.
And I mean, like, that's how I saw it.
Yeah, fight there and people were jumping in and all kinds of
weird shit. But anyway, yeah, yeah.
And I talked to Joyce, like, would you like to come on the

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show and talk about it? I said I have no shame.
And he's like, no man, but yeah,I'd like to come on your show,
you know, maybe during Mania weekend.
I'm not really sure why he wanted to do it then, but but
anyway. So that might be another thing.
So Janella would be incredible first of all, man, cuz that that
would be, you know. The foot on fire thing, we need

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to talk about that. We need to talk about this past
thing. There's a lot we need to talk
about with him. Yeah, yeah, it'd be a good show.
Like, go ahead and book that oneman for sure.
So. All right, yeah, yeah.
But dude, you know, as soon as we get out from under our buddy
captain's corner man brother, I don't know if he's just an
official part of the team, you know, now he's the.
Booker Man. I know, I love it.

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We've been waiting for a Booker,haven't we?
Like. Seriously, because I got tired
of the book, I tried to give it to you a couple times and you
took it for a minute. But yeah, let's Nick's a good
Booker. And so Nick's got us our
upcoming guest, Glacier. This is going to be cool because
we almost had it before because of Cahigas was trying to get him
on here. And then Glacier was like, hang

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on, I'm doing this movie. I'd like to come on there and
and plug it. So now the movie's out
Unbreakable bunch, and we're going to talk about that, and
we're also just going to talk about Glacier.
Yeah, let's do it then. I like it.
Yeah, let's do that. All right, we'll be right back
with Glacier after these messages.
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All right, folks, we are. Back on Live and in color.
Wolfie D. And.
Today's guest, man, this is pretty cool for me because I was

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actually a big mark for this gimmick.
Even though I was in the business, I was like, that's
fucking cool, man. That's something I want to do
some shit like that. But so I'm I'm introducing today
my man Ray, also known as Glacier.
What's going on? Hey, Whoopi, how you doing man?
I'm. Doing good.
Dude, did it just get cold in here or what?

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I'm. Freezing my balls off man.
Put a space heater in here or something.
Man, right off the bat though, now that you say that Jimmy, it
brings me to the point that I read Ray the the the outfit
alone, the first outfit cost 35 grand.
Is that right? Yeah, You know what, I always

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try to let kind of explain that when I when I tell people that
is the way that happened was because obviously, you know, for
most wrestlers, I mean, you, youbasically get your own gear made
and things like that. You know.
And so when when this whole blood runs cold concept came to
to pass and and Eric Bischoff was overseeing it, you know, one

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of the make they was, you know, it was breaking new ground
because they wanted to do something that was was more more
high end as far as the look and the gear and and, you know,
something that just, you know, that had really never been done
before. So just by chance I had, you
know, when I was living in Atlanta, I had, I started doing
some acting outside of wrestlingand I happen to know a gentleman

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who's who's, who's still a greatfriend, the Andre Friedas.
He was a really good special effects makeup artist for, for
the TV and film industry. And he had his own studio called
AFX Studios. Long story short, I introduced
him to Eric. They made a deal for for AFX
Studios to actually do all of the the for, for for Glacier,
for Mortis, for so and so Glacier was the first one.

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So it did run. You know, I did see the invoice
for what he he billed WWE, but that was basically from drawing
board the finished product, which there was a lot of work
that he did perfection work to get that thing to look that way.
Yeah. But I'm glad WCW was willing to
pick up that tab though, yeah. For sure, right?
So whose idea was the gimmick? You know what, the way that I,

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it's always been explained to mefrom in the very beginning, you
know, from with Eric was that obviously, you know, the, you
know, wrestling, you know, always is typically smart enough
to play off what's popular and, and, and society at that time.
And of course, Mortal Kombat had, you know, the the video
game was a huge success. The movie had just come out.
And so and, and actually TNT, you know, which is part of

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returner. They were, I think, I don't know
if it had started yet, but therewas for a while.
There's a ATV series that was onTNT, you know, the Mortal Kombat
TV. Yes, I remember.
That yeah, from, from what I understood is like, you know,
the powers that be at, at Turner, along with, you know,
the Mortal Kombat series, basically they were like, hey,
can we bring this idea into the wrestling ring?

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You know, and so, and then they were using several wrestlers
were on some of the episodes of,of the, the, the TV show.
So, so I, I, I was always, that's how it was always
presented to me that there were these two worlds that were
pretty close, you know, to working together anyway.
So why not, you know, can we pull this off in the wrestling
ring? And so I was the first Guinea
pig, yeah. So.

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So yeah, in like 90. Four man to kill time.
I was I drew up these, I called them the Cyberpunks, right.
And one's name was Fire, one name's one was named Ice.
And I drew up these outfits and I had them made down there with
really not much intention of using them.
But then in like 90, Jimmy, whatwas that 95 or 96 when we did

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the Cyberpunks? 95 it.
Was like 95 S me and Jamie with PG13.
We lose a lose relief town matchto Tommy Rich.
Doug Gilbert and I come back. We come back as the Cyberpunks
and the thing that I got, you say, you say Mortal Kombat, but
ours kind of reminded people, I guess, of the Power Rangers of
man. I can't tell you how good the

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gimmicks were, man, back in the Polaroid days, man, they, they
kids were on it, man, it was awesome.
I'm sure you had some serious gimmick money coming in from
that too. You know what?
And, and, and that's what I still still love about it, man.
I mean, I'm, I'm very, very proud, you know, that I'm the
one who who got to be glacier and, and I'm still proud to be

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Glacier. I just did an appearance at an
event here. Was it last weekend?
I think that a, a, a friend of mine who's big big talk morning
talk radio show here, he hosts here.
He's a big wrestling fan. He's sponsored a wrestling show
and, and I went out and did an appearance and, you know, it's
just, I say what a knock on wood.
Think, think, you know, the goodLord, every day that I can still

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be relevant after you know, all these, you know, which is it's a
really good feeling to, to stillbe able to do something we love
and, and, and make people happy and put smiles on their faces
too, you know? Definitely.
Do you, do you feel like, and, and this is no disrespect at
all, but do you feel like I think the people respect that
gimmick more now than they did when you fucking first did it
it? Seems like it, yeah.

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It does man, seems. Like it?
Yeah. Why do you think that is?
Well, you know, one of the things that Eric and I had in
the early conversations, well, this is the one thing that Eric
was really big on and, and ChrisCanyon, of course, he was Mortis
and Brian Clark was Wrath. I mean, there was one thing that
we were really, really, really big on is that OK, the, the, the

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presentation will be what it will be.
But once the bell rings from bell to bell, we never ever made
this, you know, something that that was a, a kooky gimmick or
whatever it was always played very serious.
Once we started wrestling, you know, it wasn't meant to be
anything funny or, or, or hokey or, you know, candy or whatever.
I think that was a big part of, at least for me, is that like

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over the years, even though I was, you know, still done, you
know, still do a lot of, up until recently, you know, just
because I'm getting getting older now, you know, but I was
still doing a lot of the independent shows and, and
that's what I felt like is that,you know, still I could, I could
bring the the persona to the wrestling fans.
They get to do the entrance and all that stuff.
But then once we're in the ring,I think that's what's held up

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over time is we weren't trying to be some kind of comedy act
or, or something like that. We took the wrestling really
serious. And I still do.
And I, I feel like that's part of what's allowed it to grow old
gracefully kind of, you know. Yeah, yeah.
That we respected that there wasstill wrestling at the end of
the day, you know? Yeah, yeah.
And two, man, I feel like the fans have kind of the fans of

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the mid 90s to the fans of now are a lot different and how they
look at stuff I guess is anotherpart of it.
Something else, man, I looked atman so and I always like to go
back and see what people's athletic backgrounds were.
And of course you have martial arts and he was a football
player and been a football coach.
But I noticed shot put and discus was a big thing for you

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too, right? Yes, I did that in high school.
And, you know, it's just one of those things where, you know,
my, my high school football coaches, you know, they were
very, really big on playing other sports in the offseason,
you know, to keep in shape and things like that.
And, you know, I never, I never grew up aspiring to to do
anything track related. But but, you know, but, you

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know, it's one of those things was like, OK, well, you know, me
and a couple of the other lineman then we bought, we all
learned how to throw the shot put the discus, you know.
So. Yeah, it was.
And it and it, you know, just kept me, it kept me off the
streets in the offseason. Right on, Right on.
Yeah. And I'll tell you that I noticed
that because I'm going to brag on my stepfather for a minute.
He's he's no longer with us, buthe held the Tennessee State

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discus record for like 20 years,man.
And it got broken. And I think it was, I want to
say the late 80s, mid late 80s, but man, he was crushed.
He was crushed, man. I think what yeah, I, I have a
great memory of my, we used to have, it was 22 rival high
schools in my hometown of Brunswick, GA.
It was Brunswick High School andGlen Academy.

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Glen Academy had been around fora long time and my, my high
school was a newer high school, but it's still been there for a
while. And, and we had a big city meet
every year, big city track meet,you know, and, and that was kind
of, you know, your bragging rights, you know, because it was
just the two schools. And, and I remember the guy who
I was going up against was a football player to it was
really, really good. I think he had placed pretty

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high like in the in the and the reason or state the year before
as a junior. So I knew going in I was like,
man, you know, I'm certainly theunderdog here and I ended up
winning. And but I always tell people
like there's a reason why I ended up winning.
That was because the guy from Glenn, who was my my rival, he
scratched all three throws, which which for people don't

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call a trap when you scratch, that means basically you step
over the line and qualify. Your throat doesn't count, you
know, so, so I still got that blue ribbon though, you know,
which is. Pretty cool.
So, growing up a lifelong wrestling fan, yes.
No. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Yeah, we just I worked now as a coach for AW and we were just

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taping TV in Jacksonville Saturday night.
And and that's where I grew up watching.
My first big, big experience forwrestling was Jacksonville
Coliseum, watching championship wrestling from Florida.
And and it was really cool to beback in Jacksonville, to be just
be kind of around that aura thatthe the old Coliseum used to
used to really give. And but yeah, I grew up a

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lifelong wrestling fan. Never really thought, you know,
as I got older, I was do get into wrestling, you know, for
real. And and then eventually I met a
gentleman, a great friend of mine did this say Ricky Allen,
who was from Jacksonville. He's been a great high school
wrestler. He'd gotten into wrestling
through championship wrestling from Florida and and as I got to
know him because one of my teammates about us, the State

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University where I play ball waswas a good buddy of Rick's.
They from high school. So we all were hanging out
together. They actually started shooting a
little wrestling TV show in thisin our local TV station at
Valdosta. So we'd go there and watch
wrestling, act like idiots in the crowd, you know, and, and,
and then just as I got closer tograduation, the conversation

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kind of went towards, hey, you know, would you like to do this?
You know, maybe trained to do this to see if, you know, if you
try your hand at it, you know, see if it's something you think
you might want to do. And at first I was like, heck
no, man, I'm not. I'm not self enough to do that.
You know, you know, I grew up inthat Eddie Graham era of, you
know, like those guys, everybodywas tough and and you didn't
dare say question whether wrestling was real or not.

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And there weren't there weren't wrestling schools around.
Like you didn't. The only way to really, you
know, become a part of was to really get invited in and and
not got invited in. So I was very fortunate.
I really was. Yeah.
Who were some of your, like, favorite wrestlers when you were
younger? Who's who inspired you?
Well you know I always say man, my 2 heroes growing up were Evil
Knievel and Dusty Rose you. Know.

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It's it's nothing to me was always just, you know, a larger
than life, you know, figure, youknow, it was someone to me that
that was like just like you say,just someone to me was almost
wasn't real, you know, and I remember the first time seeing
him in the Jacksonville Coliseum.
It was a very surreal moment because, you know, you know, he
was just, you know, just he justooze charisma, you know, and and

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I have a twin. I have a twin brother.
And so of course, we we both loved rusting together.
So we would, I always, you know,imagine that we were actually
Jack and Jerry Briscoe, the N.W.A world acting champs, you
know, coming up, you know, whichis pretty cool.
But as I got a little bit older,you know, Steamboat was someone
I really enjoyed watching. I always loved watching Terry
farm, whether he, no matter which side he was on, whether he

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was, he was the good guy, the bad guy.
He was just so entertaining, man.
So the ones that I really gravitated, dude.
That's cool. Oh, man, wow, I, I was looking
through your history and just doing a little research on you,
man. I can't like figure out a place
to start. So I, I know, I know that you
trained some with, with initially with Fred Avery, but I

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really want to hear this becauseanytime I can talk about these
two gentlemen, I'm happy, especially knowing what you
ended up wearing somewhat of a mask, even though you didn't
wrestle in it the whole time, but you were you trained.
You also spent some time training with wrestling to
Johnnie Walker and Bullet Bob. Right.
Yeah, well, you know, I always have to kind of clarify that.

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And so how I got Fred Avery, whowas a great journeyman wrestler,
right? I met Fred through Rick Allen
and who I mentioned earlier, andthat's and, and the Fred mainly
trained, trained me and trained my one of my best buddies from
my football team named Rd. Swain.
We played side by side in college.
So we kind of broke into the tagteam, which was pretty unique,
you know, and but but we were very fortunate in that.

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Ben Masters, who young promoter at P state wrestling back in the
day and and and and been still agreat friend.
He he ran just these unbelievably great shows where
he brought in talent. Like as you said earlier,
Wolfie, you know, Tommy Rich wasalways there, you know, Ted
Oaks, but bullet and and and twowere there as well.
Then here we were these young kids right out of college, you

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know, and, you know, I, I, I wasvery intimidated by wrestling
when I first got into it because, yeah, I'm just one of
these guys. Like, I don't want to mess it
up. I don't want to make myself look
bad, which is going to make the,you know, the industry look bad,
you know, and I worked so hard to, to to build a good
foundation and not embarrass myself out there.
But, but, you know, Ted, Bob andand and and two were on the

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almost all of of, of, of Ben's shows, P state wrestling shows.
So even though they didn't handle any of my initial
training as, as far as, you know, the, the, the, the
building, that foundation, you know, of learning the, you know,
everything in the beginning, as soon as we started working, we
worked there a lot because Ben ran a lot of shows.
They were very, very helpful in being just those positive role

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models. And they would take the time to
watch our matches. They would give us the feedback.
And then, you know, we would, you know, history ride with them
some from town to town. And, and of course, you know,
that's a, a, a, a, the experience that's almost dead
now, which is really sad. So much just riding in the cars
with them and talking and buyingthem lunch, you know, or dinner
after the show and just just soaking up, you know, what you

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what you could from them. And, and they were very gracious
as far as, you know, giving great advice and and critique
and, and just being there just being a sounding board to to
bounce ideas off of and you know, yeah.
And I, and I look back on that guys and I just man, I, I knew I
was lucky back there, but the, the, the more old older I get, I
realized why I really was just. We were very, very fortunate to

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have those people in our careersat that early part, that early
stage that we, they really helped us shorten the curve, so
to speak. No doubt, man.
I always say this man, and it's terrible, but like the Memphis,
because that's where I came up, was Memphis, man, not grow up,
but that's my territory, right. So man, most the Memphis vibe,

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No, everybody would knock you. Nobody like nobody would say
your match was good. You come back from the ring.
I don't care if you tore the house down.
It'd be like, oh, that was a shit, you know, and even in the
car, if you wanted to fucking learn in the car, you were a
mark. It's like, God, I don't want to
talk about wrestling. Fuck God, we're talking about
that. We get there, you know, just

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like these. Yeah, man, the Memphis mentality
was weird. So, but yeah, later on in my
career there were people that help me, but Dancer wasn't
there. And as we, we branched, you
know, we, we got, we were made aware of that.
So we really did realize how fortunate we were.
And one of the great things thatthat Ted Oates would do for us

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is, you know, we would, we were wrestling a lot in Cordele, GA.
And that was only about an hour or so away from Valdosta, where
we had, we were still living. And so we, you know, Ben would
be like, hey, I'll get the ring.You know, I'll have the ring all
day long. And typically we ran, you know,
high school gyms, National Guardarmies, whatever.
And he would just set the ring up.
He'd have the ring guys set it up that morning.

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And so we'd go up and Ted would just, and of course, the two was
there. And if Bullet had gotten early
and we think we've just trained in the ring, you know, pretty
much all afternoon. And so they got ready to open
the doors and just, you know, not going hard obviously on a
lot of stuff, but just bring a lot of final points, asking
questions and giving us input and, you know, saying, yeah,
that looks good, that no, that looks like crap.
Don't do that, you know? Yeah.

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But. But yeah, it was.
It was. It was, I'd say we were very,
very fortunate. And Tommy Rich Tommy helped me
an awful lot early on in my career.
Tommy ribbed me an awful lot in my career.
Well, he did us. Too he did us too.
You know that comes with a. That comes with a, you know,
being able to learn a little bit.
You got to, yeah, you got to putup with that because that,

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that's, that's Tommy, Yeah. I just, I travelled a mini a
mile with Tommy, man. I got good memories, good
memories. Some I can share.
Yeah. So there's a person who we kind
of have in common, Vandenberg, who also is known as Father
James Mitchell. When I was with him in TNA, I

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actually just talked to him lastnight for the first time in a
while. But yeah.
So what's your thoughts on him, man?
Well, one. I, I just absolutely love him.
He's been a, a great, great friend for going home 30 years
now, you know, and I just absolutely love the guy.
You know, he is, I feel there's certain people have met along
the way that I really feel like that they were put on this earth

(25:38):
to, you know, somehow eventuallyget into the wrestling business.
And I feel like he was one of those people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just watch him.
You know, when he I I tell anybody who's wanting to learn
more about promos, I just tell him to watch a lot of his promos
because. And this is, this is the honest
truth. Like in all the years I've known
him, I've never not once have I ever seen him, you know, flub a

(26:02):
promo. I've seen that I seem to do it
again for for him like that, maybe add something into
whatever. I've never seen him, you know,
when the light goes on, boy, he is not, I mean, he, he, he
doesn't, he doesn't stumble overhis words and what he says he
makes very believable and it sounds very believable and
authentic, which if you can get that, you know, then you can
hook, he can hook the audience, you know, and he just.

(26:24):
It's intelligent talk too. It's not.
Like it's just garbage coming. Out of his mouth.
It's very smart. Very.
Smart. Yeah, he he.
Always sound every, every time he, he speaks, he sounds
everything he says. It sounds very well calculated
the way he says, you know, and, and I think some of that is and
then I just knowing him, I know a lot of that.

(26:45):
It's just, it's just he's spatting it out as as it pops
into his head. Yeah, no kidding.
Yeah. I really enjoyed my time with
him, man. I, me, me, him, Brian Lee.
That was a a really good faction, man.
We we had it together, I thought.
So. You're you're now with a EW.

(27:08):
And the other night y'all were in Knoxville and I called up a
favor to Jerry Lynn for my for my son, his mother and her
boyfriend and her kids and everything.
They had a great time. So what do you feel about AEW?
And I know you're not going to knock it and I'm not asking you
to, but where, where do you where do you think they could

(27:29):
improve? Maybe.
Well, you know, I mean, here's here's my take on that.
Is that one. You know, I as we all know, you
know, anytime there's more opportunity for for all of us to
write, that's a good thing. You know, and and I will say, I
mean, you know, I working with Tony directly.
He's, and this is saying a lot because I've been in the

(27:50):
business now almost 40 years, I don't think I've ever met anyone
seriously who's as passionate about wrestling day in and day
out as he is. I mean, this guy truly, truly
loves professional wrestling at a level that I've rarely seen.
And, and so, you know, my thing is that, you know, the company
being that it's still relativelyyoung, there's going to be, you

(28:11):
know, it's, there's just growingpains with it.
You know, I, I know they're trying really hard.
They they've brought in a lot of, you know, people as far as
some, you know, creative wise and, and some more world class
talent. So I, I feel like it's and you
know, how wrestling goes. Wrestling is always, I think
kind of in, you know, kind of peaks and valleys at times, of

(28:32):
course, But but I tell you what,there's, there's a lot of
really, really great talent there, a lot of really good
people behind the scenes. Just like you said, I get a
chance to work with Jerry Lance and, you know, and, and Scotty
Garland, Scotty Johadi. I mean, those guys are, you
know, when we're we're all threeguys, you know, look at each
other. Sometimes I'm like, man, like,
you know, we get a chance to do this at this point in our lives,

(28:53):
you know, as our kids. And my experience personally has
been that everyone I've seen to work with, I mean, they all seem
to be very, very open to ideas and suggestions.
And and so, yeah, overall, I think it's it's a positive thing
for the pro wrestling world. And, and I know there's, you
know, there's critiques and criticisms about certain things

(29:13):
and, you know, when you're doinglive TV and, you know, we're
writing, you know, at least 4 hours of live TV a week, you
guys know, I mean, that's, it's just a challenge.
It's a challenge. And sometimes it, sometimes you
get it spot on. Sometimes you kind of go, well,
OK, that didn't play out like we, we thought it would, but
we'll, we'll go back and adjust and, you know, we'll, we'll,
we'll redirect, you know, try totry to go a different way with

(29:34):
that, you know, So, yeah. So yeah, overall, I, I love it.
I, I, you know, couldn't ask fora better.
I was, I was, I was back teaching school teachers, high
school special Ed. And then, you know, I just, I
had reached out to, you know, a couple of people I knew, you
know, within the company and basically just was curious, Hey,
if there's ever, you know, an opening, I certainly would love
to be considered. And it took about a year for it

(29:54):
to really all come to pass. And they had a thought for me, a
position right, right as school was ending this past year in
June. And so it was a great time to,
to, to come on board. And man, I tell you, it's been,
it's been a very good experiencefor me so far.
That's cool. Yeah, that's, that's good to
hear, man. That's that's cool.
Man, I was going to ask you actually.
Is Magnum TA working for you alltoo?

(30:15):
You know, I don't, I don't thinkso.
I don't think he's there for sure.
But I mean, they may have done something with him, you know,
for he'll do a certain number ofappearances maybe or something
that makes sense. OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally would, man, I wish
you. I wish you was.
Because you know I'd still pick his brain every time I saw him.
You. Know what should I do?
Oh wait, I need to help this guy.
I'm sorry, not my match I'm talking about.

(30:39):
Well, no. Speaking of that era of
Crockett, you know I love that'smy bread and butter.
That's what I was born with in Mid-Atlantic.
I'm a Mid-Atlantic kid. And but the question I was going
to talk to you about is that series of matches where you
actually got to work the great mood of kind of before, you
know, it all happened for you. But talk about that.

(31:02):
I would love to hear you and mood, man.
Yeah. Yeah, well, you know what, I
have a great saying that my one of my college coaches gave me
and and everybody knows the one about it's not what you know,
it's who you know. But my college coach used to put
another part to that. And he he used to always say,
you know, it's not what you knowand it's not who you know, it's
who's willing to say they know you, who's willing to put their
name out there for you. You know, their their regular

(31:23):
station are aligned to give you an opportunity.
And and ironically, that's what Tommy Rich did for me when I was
working with him Impeach state wrestling.
He I broke into April 87. This was going into the summer
of 89 and I was finishing teaching school in June.
So I had, you know, basically those three months off where and
I was in Georgia. So in Georgia the teachers get

(31:43):
paid during the summer. And then so I had that coming
in. I had insurance.
And so he was like, Hey, would you like to do some some of the
TV, you know, with he's just become WCWI think.
And I, you know, inside I was terrified.
But I'm like, I can't say no to this, you know, So I, so he, he
got me, Tommy went to bat for me.
And, and this is barely two years into the business and he

(32:06):
got me booked on. At first was a Sunday night
house show in Albany, GA And I was wrestling.
I was going to the locker room and there's, you know, all these
guys that I just, I see on TV every week, you know, and I was
matched up with Butch Reed and he was very, very gracious.
Yeah, I can imagine, you know, and he was the height of his
career. He looked like $1,000,000, you
know, and, and, and so I had a great match with him.

(32:28):
He really, really took care of me and like, you know, hit his
big shoulder off the top and yeah, we're certain I was going
to be, you know, dead after that.
But I got a chance to, you know,I got a chance to see what it
was like to to work with a pro at that level who was that big
and that intimidating and, and, and, and see how how well he, he
worked with someone and made himlook great and protected him,

(32:49):
you know, and so, and so everything went good that night.
And so they asked me to come to TVA few days later and it was
center stage. So I it was maybe that
Wednesday, maybe I'm thinking back then and anyway, so I get
this interstage. I've never been on anything at
that level. You never at this point in my
crew. So I'm walking around there just

(33:11):
trying to be a good hand, stay out of the way, not speak unless
somebody speaks to me. And then, and I believe it was
Jeannie, Gina Anderson who eventually comes up and says
like, Hey, kid, we got you, got you a match.
And you know, you're going to beworking with Muda and Gary Hart
will get with you on what to do.So already here.
All right, I got Gina Anderson talking to me and I know I'm

(33:32):
going to be working with Muda and and Gary Hart, who who I
grew up, you know, just watchingand just being, you know, so
entertained by him. I end up working.
I meant center stage, which is terrifying to me because I I
guess I'm from South Georgia, you know, and hardly ever been
to Atlanta that many times aboutin my life.
But but so I I end up where I'm rusting Muda Gary Hart's in this

(33:56):
corner. The ring announcer was a guy
named Rhubarb Jones. Very famous country BJ there in
Atlanta. OK, Young is.
Refereeing and which is legendary.
N.W.A reps everybody that era knows and then Jim Ross and
Michael Hayes on commentary. What I'm walking into my first
TV. Yeah, I.

(34:21):
Was. Terrified, but you know what I
mean. We went out there, but the thing
was too is that the Tommy had kind of let them know that
because of my martial arts background, like I could bump,
you know, for kicks and things like that, which you got to
realize in 89, not a lot of people did that.
You know, most people didn't even when I came in, in 96,

(34:43):
people didn't want, you know, they didn't want kicks coming at
their head. You know, that wasn't the thing
that that was, you know, in the the know then.
Yeah. So, so, so yeah, I was able to
take some of it and we, we endedup having a what I considered a
really good match that which is,you know, on all accounts, just
because I survived it, you know,but but it all everything went
well. Gary Hart was really happy

(35:05):
apparently. And that, and the word I always
got was that he basically said like, look, you know, feel free
to put that kid with us anytime you want.
I mean, you know, they, you know, he seems to be able to
work good with, with Muda. So they booked me a lot that
summer working on the Great American Bass tour, you know,
and, and I think I worked, I know at least two more times on
TVI think with, with Muda, at least two more.
And there were a couple, you know, house show ones and stuff

(35:28):
like that. But yeah, I mean, man, I got to
work with literally everybody that summer and it was.
Muda was one of my favorites as a kid, man.
God, he was awesome man. Yeah.
When I was a. Teenager man, can you, Can you
imagine? Check this out right?
Can you imagine the 80s Muda? Let's just take Glacier into the
80s versus Muda. How cool is that?

(35:49):
A bit, I tell you. What I would have?
Loved it, man. I really would have loved it.
It would have been awesome. Because I think a lot of people
don't realize either is that Muda's a pretty big guy, you
know? Yeah.
I mean, he's about my height, you know, and he, you know, he
went, he was just, I would say Charlotte 225, you know, maybe
2:30. I mean, he was he was bigger
than he was bigger than I thought he was when I first met
him. And you know, man, I mean, he

(36:11):
rude. So I mean, if you deposited
Muda, you know, a young mood into today's world, he'd still
dominate. Oh, yeah, You know, Yeah.
He was like, good, you know, andman.
And then? His elbow man and and and I
always say like the rock, you know the people's elbow is one
of the most over moves in the world.
Not gonna take nothing from that, but he is doing it like

(36:34):
Muda did it. But his looks like shit in my
opinion. But it's over.
Don't get me wrong, but fucking Muda, man, the way he threw that
elbow made it look awesome and Iusually hate that kind of elbow.
The one off to the side, I, I usually like the one where you,
you armpit him across the chest,you know?
But yeah, yeah, he moved his elbow with something else, man.
You know, I think I. Think it's a perfect example of

(36:55):
of what I tell, you know, young wrestlers all the time is, you
know, you don't have to reinventthe wheel.
Just find, you know, a move or two that you like to do.
Just find a way to make it your own.
Just make it your own. That's what he really did with
that. He just took a an elbow drop and
made it his own, you know, whichis very cool.
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a huge grill to work, but
a huge grill to work. But I bet.

(37:16):
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many Daga movies, man. You know what?
I, I, I do say this very proudly.
I've kind of quietly build a good resume, you know?
Yeah, man, so, but, but it's, you know, it's just, it's
performing, you know, and I, I, you know, I've loved the
performance since I was a kid, which is I really feel like what
started, you know, steered me towards wrestling and and, and,

(38:53):
and my mom this in theater when when my brother and I were kids,
I got that's really why I felt like I got the bug.
I was watching my mom, you know,and and I was like, man, you see
your mom kind of transform into these characters, you know that.
And as I always tell my mom, like mom, I blame you for being
a performer and getting into wrestling, you know?

(39:13):
But Jimmy. 'S wife.
Thinks I'm a superstar because I've been in.
I was on Joe Kenta's show. Well, what's the name of it?
Oh, yeah. Homicide.
Hunter Homicide. Hunter I had.
I had a speaking role as a as a bouncer for about a minute
maybe. But Jimmy's wife thinks I'm a
superstar because that's why. And that's.
How I can do the podcast? It's nothing to do with

(39:34):
wrestling. Right on Tree crime over here
so. So tell the people about the
Unbreakable Bunch. Yeah, yeah.
Well, man, first of all, I just want to say thank you guys so
much for letting. Let me come on and just talk
about wrestling, but mainly talkabout the film because it's

(39:55):
yeah, it is literally a just such a a passion project for me
and and my my producing partner,Brendan Love, Luther Biggs, who
who. Well, see, I don't want to be
Luther, you know, he went through Memphis there for a
while. Yeah, I, I.
Remember now that you say that because I kept when I was
watching the movie, I was like, I know this dude, I know this
dude, but I can't think of who he is and with.

(40:16):
Yeah, the Memphis. OK, now that makes sense.
OK, yeah, he he. Managed I remember when when
when when Kane was there he was doomsday.
You know, he has, yes, yesterdayand, and then managed a couple
other people. I mean, so he had a yeah, he had
a had a good run there before heand I actually met right
beforehand. But but yeah, he came up with
this idea. I mean, we, we met at the power

(40:37):
plant back around 96. And, and, and this is an idea he
came up with years ago and it was basically, you know, we both
love the ensemble cast movies oflike the 60s and 70s, like the
Magnificent 7, the Wild Punch, Yeah, yeah.
Ocean 11, Yeah. Yeah, the one was really.
Redone that with The Expendables, you know, here of

(40:59):
the last couple or so, you know,and yeah, we as the first
Expendables came out, you know, we were thinking like, and that
was ironically, man, it was like2010, you know.
And and so he was like, you know, like like, you know, what
if we could do a story, you know, that was a good story
where you had an assemble cast of wrestlers in the movie, you
know, that that already celebrated that.
And so that was the that was thethe, the seed that got planted.

(41:22):
And then later we would talk to people in the industry and were
like, Hey, what do you think about this idea?
And eventually somebody said, you know, you know, your first
step is to get, you get a scriptwritten, because until you get a
script written, nobody's going to take you serious.
And really it's just an idea that you guys are thrown around.
So we, we, we talked to a good friend of ours, John Waterhouse,
who's a very good writer and, and he wrote the original
screenplay for it. And, and you know, as most movie

(41:45):
scripts go, you know, there was a lot of tweaking to the story,
you know, from what the, this, where it started and where it
finished up. But we, we did very much keep
the essence of the of, of what we started with.
One of the things we to learn iswe had to, we had to cut out a
few characters because we started, we had about a dozen
characters. Oh yeah.
We can't then an hour and a halfmovie, we can't give everybody
their moment there if we got thepeople in here, you know, as

(42:07):
part of the group. So we ended up cutting it down
to six. And but yeah, the movie itself
is, I always say it's a cross between the Magnificent 7 meets
John Carpenter's They Live, you know, with Ruddy Piper, you
know, so it's A and it's really there's a new genre of films
that are called retro sci-fi. Yeah, yeah.

(42:28):
We've kind of fall into that because.
And I say what that really meansis, at least to us is we wanted
to make a movie that that won was a love letter to wrestling.
And and I'll, I can get a littlebit deeper in that here in just
a second. But as far as the movie itself,
you know, we wanted to make a movie that that that was kind of
an homage to those 80s kind of direct to video sci-fi action

(42:48):
films, you know, you know that. And because we had we had a
limited budget, we had a good budget, we had a limited budget,
we didn't have any studio budget.
And so we just decided, you knowwhat, lean into that a little
bit, you know, and, and so the, the story is told as if it's
during a time when there's, you know, maybe in the 80s or
something like that. So there's no modern technology
in the movie. There's no cell phones or flat

(43:08):
screen TV's or stuff like that, which is a huge challenge to
just film that, but also write astory that doesn't have that in
there, you know? So, so yeah, it's called the
Unbreakable Bunch. And, you know, we we made it
that because it's it's a group of veteran wrestlers who come
back together. But my character, Jock Holiday
kind of gathers everybody back and we come together to help a

(43:30):
friend in need who's who we needto raise a certain amount of
money and a certain amount of time.
And it's like, you know, the oldticking clock thing is like, you
know, we got to get this, this by this then.
And so we go on the road to we all agree to work for this
promoter we all swore we never worked for again.
You know, we go on the road and,and actually the we had some
great actors in the film and actually anyone who's fans of

(43:53):
The Walking Dead or listeners ofyour show will recognize the guy
who plays his name is Nicodemus quarrels in the movie, which is
a pretty cool name, but but it'sAdam Manarovic who he played the
the character of Carol of Walking Dead.
He was like all 14 seasons. He played Carol's abusive
husband in the first two seasonsand and eventually the zombies

(44:14):
get him and stuff. But he he's a great comedic
actor and and this our movie, heto show some of that his comedic
chops, you know, a little bit. And because even though there's
a good bit of humor in the movie, it's all played very
straight. It's not played like can't be
cheesy humor and but but yeah, so we go on.
We go on. So the audience gets to see two
parallel stories from the very beginning.
They see this small Florida townwhere this alien presence has

(44:38):
started to take over. And then here are these guys who
are come back together doing this tour.
And eventually what happens is we stop off in that town on the
day off and there's a festival going on town and, and you know,
and we end up in this big old friendly fight at the festival
and get thrown in jail. And then eventually we find out
what's going on. And then we all we stand with
the town to help take back the town And, and it's a really,

(45:01):
really fun movie. We really challenged ourselves
to make a movie that that, that celebrates everything that's
good about pro wrestling. And, and it's made for people
who love wrestling like we all do, you know, Right, right.
So, so we don't, we don't reallyexpose wrestling in the movie.
We don't use a lot of insider terms.
We it's really about the camaraderie, the friendship and

(45:21):
loyalty that gets developed, youknow, when you travel along with
with guys and girls that that love it like you do, you know,
everybody loves it the same way.Yeah.
And that's the story. It really is the story because
nobody, you know, there's just Luther really came up with the
idea, like, man, we need to makea movie that shows, you know,
the really good side of wrestling.
Like what, you know, when all those car rides and stuff, when
you, you become friends with people and, and you know, and

(45:42):
you start developing these, these almost like family, like
bonds, you know, with people and, and you got to know like
you have you wrestling family onthe road, you got your real
family at home. And and so that's, that's the
side that we felt like a story that was never told.
We wanted to tell that story and, and we felt like like
Hollywood, even if they did try to tell it, wouldn't get it
right and step bound and determine we were going to get
it right. And I think we really did.

(46:04):
And so we're waiting for our first film and, you know, we
hope to do more. Where did you?
Do most of the filming at We Shot.
Pretty much almost all of the film in in Central Florida here
and I live I'm in Orlando, but there's a town right outside of
Orlando called Sanford, FL has areally, really cool historic
district. And we shot a lot of the movie
in that historic district once again to kind of give it a

(46:26):
little bit of a timeless look and feel, you know, and, and the
town turned out, I mean, they were so gracious to help.
I mean, from the, you know, the,the permitting office to the
police force to, I mean, the just the locals that would show
up to be extras in the scenes. I mean, it was, I mean, this was
a huge, huge undertaking to to pull off and, and, and just to
look, you know, the list of guysthat we got to commit to the

(46:48):
film. I mean, it's it's a, you know,
it's a who's who of my pro wrestlers in this movie, man.
Yeah. You know there was.
Not enough of Gangrel. David Heath in it.
You know what? I will.
I'll tell you why, because we all both love Dave and but Dave,
you know, he, he actually with the movie was written and we

(47:10):
were trying to find a way of, ofa role for Dave that because we
just, we wanted him in there, you know, and we couldn't, we
couldn't figure out a role to where we could put a role that
was really matched with his schedule because, you know,
every weekend he's ready somewhere.
And so we knew, OK, so how can we get maximum bang for our buck
with Dave? And so we wrote him into the
huge festival scene, the big fight scene is that we were

(47:33):
like, OK, we can get him in the scene.
He can do all of his good stuff.You know, he can be a grill and
so people around to beat us up and and so but just didn't
testament. I mean, he's one of the hardest
working guys in our business andtestament to his work ethic is
1. He came in and he was just he
gave us everything and then some, you know, that we asked

(47:53):
and needed of him. And then we had, you know, we
had, we were all staying at an extended stay hotel there and we
had even gotten the room and he basically said to grace to say,
Hey, guys, I don't need the roombecause because we can only film
until it got dark, obviously, which, and and we were filming
in the fall. So it was like 6:00.
It'd be dark. So he came back in the car as
soon as we were out filming. He drove back to to, you know,

(48:14):
South Florida and and coached his wrestling class that night.
Yeah. Who else find a lot of people
like him? Sorry.
I didn't mean to. Cut you off.
But yeah, I love Dave, man. I've known him for a long time.
Good guy. Who if if I can ask, because you
said people got cut. Who, who, who ended up getting

(48:35):
cut that was going to be in it. Well, you know what?
It it wasn't so much to some people that we had cast, it was
just it was just characters thatwe had to cut out.
But I want to say this, I mean, there was I would have really
have loved it because I did havea conversation a few years back
with without. No, I, I, I.
Haven't. Seen Al in the role of one of
the characters and and then let's see who else.

(48:56):
Well, there was one, believe it or not.
You said you saw the movie. Yes, we both did in.
The bar scene with Dallas, when when we're in the bar scene,
Dallas comes up and starts talking to me.
That was originally written where it was going to be.
It was called Bullets Bar and itwas.
And the guy behind the point wasgoing to be Bob Armstrong
playing the bullets and being the owner of the bar.

(49:16):
And there was originally the whole scene where he came up and
said hello to us and Bah, Bah, Bah.
And we just, we, as we were, youknow, you had to keep trimming
and going, OK, we got to get this to the 90 minute film.
You know, it was certain scenes and certain characters had to
get cut. And you know, I, I, I hated that
more than anything to cut the bullets character out because I
so much wanted him in there. But it was one of those things I
remember Luther and I, when we sat down at the beginning, one

(49:38):
of the promises we made to ourself was, you know, this is
not a vanity project. You know, we, we got it.
We got to make this movie as if we have no emotional connection
to it. And so if something has to be
cut for the better of just, it'sgot to be cut And, and, and, and
honestly, like, there's even in that bar scene, there's a big
part of that scene where Luther was in there.
It's cut out about two minutes of what of of what Dallas and I

(50:00):
saying the scene is kind of cut out because we just had to get
it down to one of the rules you learn when you produce the film
is if it doesn't move the story along, it's got to go, right.
Yeah, right. And, and even some of the best
stuff that we shot, we felt likedidn't make it into the final
cut just because it was good. But you know, that's just OK,

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doesn't move the story along. And if it doesn't move the story
along, it might seem entertaining to us, but for
people who, who are just watching the movie and they got
nothing else invested, but just to be understanding, it might
not work for them. So you just got to make sure
everything moves the story along.
And so we were very, very conscious of that and even made
a final cut right before we sentit to distribution where we cut

(50:40):
out about 6 1/2 minutes of stuffthat, you know, a lot of really
good stuff. But it, it actually did tighten
up the movie some and, and it made it even better.
So, but, but yeah, I mean, just as far as the guys that we got
to this film, I mean, you know, we got of course, King Haku,
everybody knows. And of course, you know, I have
one of the lead roles, Ernest toCat Miller, who is my tacking

(51:03):
partner and still one of my bestfriends on this day.
He's amazing in this film. He's very much a Jim Brown type
character. Yeah.
Yeah, I see that. Yeah.
Yeah, he and he. Kind of wanted he, he brought
the whole cowboy, you know, persona to that.
That wasn't even really written into the script, but I remember
him coming up and he was like, he was like, he's like glacier.
He's like, you know, to, you know, how about if I wear like

(51:24):
this cut off Western shirt with this cowboy hat and these black
jeans and boots? And I was like, yeah, man, I
said, what is that? You come up with that?
And he said, man, I've been want, I've been want to be a
cowboy ever since I was five years old.
And he showed me this. Picture when he was dressed.
He was dressed in the cowboy when he was like 5.
And he's like, look like this. I was like, bring it, man.

(51:44):
Let's do it. It works.
Yeah. And then and then the living
legend, Larry Jabisco, who I know funny if you guys, I don't
know if you guys got this from watching Larry, but I've had
Luther and I both have had several people.
Someone just told me this over the weekend that they felt like
when they were watching Larry inthe movie that kind of like an
old school Hollywood legend actor, you know, he felt like he

(52:05):
could have been in. Goodfellas, he could have been
in like Goodfellas or Casino or he has that like because he's a
Pittsburgh guy, right? Pennsylvania, yeah, yeah.
So working class, you could justtell.
But yeah, you're right. He he could have actually been a
movie star. I highly believe that.
Well, here's. Here's the story that he told

(52:25):
us, which I thought was amazing,is back when he was at the
height of his run, he actually was approached by the the people
that were making the movie The Hills Have Eyes, which which,
yeah, I think was, what's his name, the real famous horror
director. But anyway, and he passed on it
because, well, I guess whatever money offered him was good

(52:45):
money, but it wasn't anywhere close to what he was making, you
know, week to week, month to month wrestling.
And, you know, back then, if youdidn't wrestle, you didn't make
money. So he basically, he basically,
you know, politely declined it. And, and he even told us like,
you know, he, that's why he saidhe just like wants so much to
get this right because he, he really wishes he would have
taken that role at that time because he wanted, he enjoys

(53:07):
doing the acting and he and he'sgood at it.
And so so this was really, I think a little bit of a kind of
a second chance for him to try to show people he can certainly
do that. And, and I think he did amazing,
you know, and dude, yeah. And then he got, you know, we
had, you know, Dallas, Dallas came on board and, and, and shot
that that great scene for us. And and then of course, Gangrel,
like you said, and you know, Hall of Framer and Larry Hanson.

(53:31):
I know, I wish he could have. Said Tiny Wangers one time in it
but. I know that wouldn't fit the
script, I get it, but well, you know.
And I can I can tell you guys this without giving it away to

(53:53):
anybody else to hopefully, hopefully a lot of people go
watch the movie. But obviously, you know, you
guys know how things play out with Stan's character in the
movie, right? Originally, it wasn't written
that way. And actually Stan came to me and
said, hey, you know what? Don't.
I'd be totally fine if you wrotemy character, you know, to do
this and which is what ends up, you know, in the movie.

(54:15):
And I said, wow, really? He was like, yeah, I'd be fine
with it. And and so it was his idea,
really. So to do.
Hey, hey. Hold on just a second, Ray.
Did you just do an amazing Stan Hanson impersonation right
there? I I tried, I tried because I'm.
Man, wow and. You know, the, the, the, this is

(54:35):
where I say, you know, just building relationships over the
years. It really, really paid off
because I met Stan because I worked as kind of like just AI
don't know if you'd call it whata featured extra or whatever.
And no holds barred, which is where I met Stan and and we've
been friends all these years andand he always just like, you
know, Hey, if you doing ever do a movie, you know, if you got a
role for me, I'd love it. And so, so when this we had all

(54:57):
this finally worked out, I called him and I said, I said,
and I said, you know, everything.
This is all said. I said, you know, here's what,
here's what we can do for you. And it wasn't a lot of money.
I mean, you know, if we did do aunion film, but it still was not
a lot of money. And you know, we can I can fly
you in. They can put you at the extended
stay hotel. And, you know, and he, he,
before I could even finish, he'slike, right, I'm in, you know,

(55:20):
and then, so, you know, and then, you know, and he was here
for like a week and I didn't realize that him and Tonga had
not seen each other in years andhow great of friends they were.
So there was a lot of great, youknow, just added benefits that
came from gathering everybody together that we didn't realize
what happened. And, and, and, you know, and
it's just just bringing like, you know, because I'm still

(55:41):
connected to, to, to QT and, andto Cody with the rustling school
in Atlanta, the Nightmare factory.
We actually, before Cody had even come on board, it was QT
and I who had started it and a lot of the kids that that came
through our camp were in the film.
And Anna Jay, who does, you know, she's one of the rising
stars with AW. She made the ring announcer in
one part of the movie and those were right before she signed

(56:03):
with AW. But but yeah, it's but all these
guys brought together once again, just the common thread of
the movie is I think and maybe, you know, I'd love to get you
guys opinion on it is, you know,I've heard we've gotten some
good feedback. When people say, you know, you
can see you guys, it's, you know, not right.
You see that you guys are reallyhaving a good time and we had a

(56:24):
blast making this. It was hard work.
But but but I feel like the camaraderie was there some in
real life. But the characters, you know, we
tried to blend the characters with their personalities and
make it to make that come across.
And hopefully it did right. Oh.
Yeah, Oh yeah, I enjoyed it. Man, yeah, it was a fun movie.
You. Know it wasn't it wasn't too
serious where it was like oh come on you know what I mean it

(56:47):
was a it was a fun movie and andwhile you were sitting there
talking and, you know talking about some of the people that
was in it I'm thinking, man, youknow who'd have been great
that's right there in Tampa is is a dance Bobby man, he looks
more intimidating these days than he did in his crime dude
you. Know.
There's so many people that, youknow what?
We, we we've tried to find a way.

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Luke and I both wanted to get Ronnie Garvin.
Yeah, get him a little cameo because, man, he still looks
great. Yeah.
Yeah, that's great. And that was so that's.
Really our incentive, it's like we got to make at least one more
because there's a lot of people that we still like to be able to
to get it. And and, you know, just to give
people, you know, just, you know, the wrestling world, give
them something that that maybe, you know, will outlive all of

(57:30):
us, you know, and the film hopefully will be around for a
long time and maybe our grandkids get to enjoy it, you
know, or, or whatever, you know,and like in the scene in the
movie where I go to recruit Tonga and early in the movie,
you know, there's this scene where it's like his grandson and
his daughter. I know it's his.
Real. Yeah, it's his real grandson and
his real daughter in the movie. And and his grandson now is

(57:51):
about 14 and he's a lot bigger than he is in our movie.
I felt, I felt. But, you know, you know, anybody
knows Tonga knows. I mean, he's a very, very big
old family, but he's a very, very emotional guy.
You know, they're very much where his heart on his sleeve.
And, and, and every time I we get to talk about, I tell him I
said, hey, you know, Tonga. I said the great thing about the

(58:13):
movie is, is the grandson's name's Chiosa.
I said Chiosa is going to alwaysbe 8 years old in the movie, you
know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, because he showed. A tender side of Haku man.
And you don't always think of that, you know, right.
And. That that was a big, big thing
that we wanted to do was to showthe human side of the wrestlers,

(58:34):
you know, that that that the audience, the the wrestling
world doesn't get to see a lot. And unfortunately, when they do
get to see it, it's usually the controversial or dark side.
And yeah. And we just was like, you know,
man, I mean, there's enough of that out there.
And, and I certainly understand it has its place, but I mean,
there's a lot of really, you know, most of the memories that
that we all have from wrestling are good memories, you know, and
we just felt like there needed to be a movie that really

(58:56):
highlighted that, you know, and,and, and, you know, the action.
I mean, we have, you know, we were shooting a lot of the
wrestling around the right before and after the pandemic.
So, you know, a lot of times we weren't able to get the big, big
houses that we wanted. But what?
But I tell you what, Manka Hagascame through for us huge, some
of the best footage I think we have.
And the wrestling came. We we filmed in one of his

(59:17):
shows. Yeah, it was awesome.
Yeah, yeah, I liked when Tonga was eating them all up in the
ring, man. Yeah, you know.
And what you know, I mean that'sabout as, that's about as spot
on as it gets pretty accurate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so. You said that there was going to
be more than likely you're goingto do a Part 2.
And before you ask, I'll do it, Ray.

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I'll do it. I guess I can tell you this, we,
as you guys know, we, you know, that this really doesn't get
what you think. We left the end of the movie in
a way to work. We could certainly open to, to
doing another one. And you know, we, we signed our
distribution deal with a companycalled Gravitas Ventures who's
solid, solid independent film distribution company.

(01:00:00):
And so we won't get the first quarter numbers till probably
about March, but but we're hoping that the numbers, you
know, are good. We have our we have one total
investor who's, who's very dedicated to the project.
And you know, if we can make thenumbers make sense, you know,
then he's all about us maybe doing doing at least one more,
maybe maybe more than that. And so.
Someone out there who's who's considering renting or buying

(01:00:24):
the movie, please, please, if you can purchase it because it's
a few dollars more and you get to have it forever, but we'll
take that too. But it but if you can just you
can go to just the unbreakable bunch movie.com.
That's our website. That's the unbreakable bunch
movie.com and that's Robert McLaren, who is Diamond Dallas
page's web web guy Webmaster. He did the website for us,

(01:00:44):
basically just a gift to the project, which is just amazing
because yeah, his services are are not these top knots.
Within our budget. Right.
But yeah. But a lot of.
People did that to help us and and, but, but all the the
streaming services, all of the cable services where you can
find the film, it's all right there at the top of our website

(01:01:05):
on the Unbreakable bunch movie.com.
Yeah, and your. Target audience, man.
I mean, you're talking about thenumbers.
I mean, if you're a wrestling fan, I feel like you're going to
go watch it. I mean, I, I really hope that my
listeners do for sure. Seriously.
Yeah. If y'all don't, don't listen to
me no more. No, I'm just kidding.
No, but for real. I mean, a wrestling fan, I feel

(01:01:27):
like that knows you guys is going to watch it just because,
you know, it may not be their normal cup of tea, but if they
like wrestling, I feel like they're just going to watch it
just because you guys are in it,you know?
I hope so. I really do because we we made
this for the fans, for the people who love wrestling the
way we do it. And.

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And actually, you know, for anyone who's in that, you know,
the Central Florida area or evenwilling to travel on March 29th,
the weekend of March, that Saturday, you know, of course
our good friends Nick Massey andBarry Rose putting on a great
WCW reunion event. And we're actually screening the
movie there. I'll be there.
Yeah, Tonga will be there. And and we'll be there to to

(01:03:18):
watch the screening with the fans and then also do a little
quick Q&A about the movie, you know, afterwards.
So. So, yeah, if if anybody's, you
know, in the Tampa area or willing to drive over, you'll
get to sit and watch the movie with us and get some behind the
scenes stories and, you know, just a little bit of a breakdown
of, you know, how we made this thing and and why we made it and
we get to watch it again. So it's awesome to be a lot of

(01:03:40):
fun. You're on the rundown.
Jimmy Yeah, one more. Time and it's glory days grapple
Con 2 with our buddy Captain's Corner.
It's Saturday March 29th. Lutz, FL Residence Inn Tampa
Suncoast Parkway at North Point Village like we've had on our
previous show. We had NW Sting.
He's going to be there. Haku Bunkhouse, Buck, Robert
Fuller, Robert Parker, however you want to call it.

(01:04:02):
It's a WCW extravaganza. Our boy Glacier.
Ray Lloyd, talk about the movie,talk about this amazing
character that he got to play inwrestling that will never be
forgotten. Talk about how he they made it
snow inside the building. Talk about anything you want to
with this man. But first of all, man, thank you
for doing this with us, brother.Seriously.

(01:04:24):
Oh man. Thank you guys so much.
I'm at the bottom of my heart, you know, I, you know, Luther
and I, we always say that, you know, that we, we, we made this.
And I'll tell you like this. I really believe this is
probably the hardest thing I've ever done is put this movie
together, because from the time we started first day of filming
until, until we put it out, it came out November 1st was about
five years. And of course that the pandemic

(01:04:46):
happened in the middle, but we never gave up on it.
You know, there were a lot of times people, I think, thought
that we were just, it would never get never get completed.
But we just, we refused to, to not get it done because, you
know, we, we made a commitment to, to our investor and, and,
and we said that, you know, we'll treat this investment like
it's our own and, and we'll get this done and we'll make the
very best move we can. And, you know, we actually what

(01:05:08):
I love of, of wrestling and, and, and, you know, just the
power plant that everybody remembers.
We, we named the, you know, our,our production company power
plant legacy films, you know, which at the very beginning of
the movie, you know, and you know, it's just, there's a lot
of really wrestling related themes to the movie that, that
just, if you love wrestling like, like we all do, as, as

(01:05:29):
someone who watches the movie, Ithink you'll see a lot of that.
There's a lot of Easter eggs in there too that that we put for
the for the really serious wrestling fan.
And I always say watch it the first time, just enjoy it, and
then go back the second time andsee how many of those little
Easter eggs you can spot in the movie, because I worked really
hard to put some really good ones in there, so.
Yeah, I'm gonna go make those. I'm gonna do that right now,

(01:05:52):
actually. Yeah.
And. I are you thinking off the air?
I'll share one with you guys. Don't forget.
OK, OK. Hey, are you?
Gonna be when you're at the grapple corn.
Are you gonna be in glacier gimmick?
I will, yes. Cool.
So that's that's. People, if you're if you don't
go down there and get a picture in with Glacier in his gimmick,
I don't know what's wrong with you're missing.

(01:06:13):
Out. Yeah, man.
Yeah. Well, I tell you what, and I
just all the rustling fans out there, I mean, seriously, like
I, you know, thankfully all thatstuff still fits.
And but that's what I was tryingto say, bro, that yeah, that it
is. It is exactly the same stuff
that I wore, you know, in MondayNitro and everything.
I missed it. I had three masks made and the

(01:06:34):
one that I go to the appearancesnow is one of those original 3
masks or original armor. I mean, it's everything, you
know, it's not a watered down version, you know of, you know,
it's exact same stuff that I wore in WCW and it's, you know,
I proudly wear it every time I can because, because the
wrestling business has allowed me to, to have a very, very poor

(01:06:56):
life. And what I'd say I don't know
where to do without it. I really don't.
That's awesome. And by the way.
Just to say this, the guy who made your gear, Andre Fritas,
he's worked on a few, you know, small budget movies.
I think they're called Black Adam Avengers.
For fast and the. Furious.
I don't think he's done anythingtoo big, you know, so.

(01:07:18):
Disney. He's an amazing artist.
He really is. And he was one of, from what I
remember, he's one of the first full-fledged special effects
studios in Atlanta. You know, when I first moved
there, it was like in the early 90s.
And so, you know, he's, he's been, he's a homegrown talent
there. You know, he, as far as I know,
he's born and raised there and he stayed there when he probably

(01:07:39):
could have gone to LA. He's kept his business there and
but he does amazing, amazing work.
And, and I was, we were very fortunate to get him because we,
I don't think we would have had that look of, of something that
was completely different at thattime without his help.
And, and yeah, we were, we were very grateful to have him.
That's cool. Yeah, that's cool.
Great man. I really appreciate you taking

(01:08:01):
this little road trip with us, man.
Thank you guys. It's about that time to let you
out. It's getting.
Cold in here? Yeah, it's getting cold.
I didn't turn the heat on. But yeah, man.
We really do appreciate it, man,And all the listeners, please go
check out the movie and if you're in the Tampa area, go to

(01:08:22):
the Grapple CON. All that good stuff, man.
And yeah, you can. Yeah, you can get it on Amazon
Prime, Prime Video and all the other streaming outlets.
But I always say if you if the easiest way to find it is just
go to the unbreakable bunch, movie.com and Robert put all of
our all the streaming services and cable logos right there on
our site. All you have to do is click on

(01:08:42):
it. It'll take you right to the
site. So where you can, you can, you
know, rent or purchase the film and please know that if if as
your list is there, if you rent or purchase, this is from please
know that literally every bit ofthe money we make literally goes
back into us being able to do hopefully a second one.
But and that's the God's honest truth because we just feel like,
you know, if we didn't do this, you know, for any certain amount

(01:09:03):
of money, it's certainly be niceto you know, we make a good bit
certainly. But but if we do, it will all go
back into making another one that that will celebrate,
continue to celebrate wrestling the way that we all love to see
how celebrated that's also. Man, yeah, man.
But guys. Thank.
Y'all so much man cuz I just I mean this movie is our heart and
soul and I just I can't think enough for letting let me come
home and I have time to talk about it.

(01:09:23):
No, we thank. You man, we appreciate it man
and I'm. I'm trying to remember man, my
memory sucks anymore but were you in WCW in 99 Two thousand
because me and Jamie worked there quite a bit I I yeah, I
don't know that I've run into you or not.
I can't remember and there. There was a time in in there
where I was off the one I I injured, I had surgery.

(01:09:45):
So I was off for, for, I don't know, about six months or so
then. And then there's the time where
they just, they weren't using mebecause, you know, all the
changes that were going on and they was, there was time, but
they didn't, you know, they theywere like, oh, we don't have
anything for you right now. Even though I was pitching, you
know, we were all pitching ideas, but you know, and just
doing that. I remember when you guys were
there and yeah, I think it was just kind of one of those times

(01:10:06):
where we we kind of weren't there, even if we weren't both
under the umbrella of it, we weren't there kind of right
there, Right. Right.
Which is a shame, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, sure.
Man for sure. Well, all right.
Man, we'll let you get back to doing what you're doing,
brother. Thank you.
Well, thank you. Guys, man, and listen, if, if
you ever, if there's ever time that we would, you know, have
time to bring me back on, by allmeans, I'd love to.

(01:10:28):
Yeah, we'd love. To man for anytime man.
Thank you guys. Thank you.
Well, thank you guys. I can't wait to see Part 2
brother. Can't wait to see what's there.
I'm all. For it, I can't wait to.
Start. I can't wait to start filming
all. Right, guys, I'll see you.

(01:10:48):
All right. OK.
All right. And we will be right back with
evidently, ask Wolfie D anything.
We haven't done that in a few weeks.
And Jimmy? Don't want to watch Saturday
night's main event, which I did,but anyway, we'll be right back
with as Whoopi D anything. DJ hit that music.

(01:11:32):
All right. We are back with ask Wolfie D
anything and honestly Wolfie, I never thought it was going to
come back, but look like it has so to to to be honest, what you
said before the the little musical interlude by my buddy
Tracy from a gathering of none. They have a new record coming
out soon. So check that out soon.
We'll make sure and let you knowabout it.

(01:11:52):
But with that being said, yes, we have been slacking.
Well, let's just say we've not. We've been trying to do other
segments and unfortunately the delay of Saturday night's main
event to when we were able to record this has been so much.
It's almost a whole new show. So what we did is we brought in
some ask Wolfie questions and I think you're going to dig them.

(01:12:14):
So let's start with this very first one, if you don't mind.
It's Ben Martin. Ben Martin 88 from Twitter.
And he sent a link and I sent that to you earlier and he asked
this question. It's it's PCO, it's Jacques
Rougeau. And so the question is, show
this to Wolfie and ask him if PG13 would have made a video
slash released a single like this.

(01:12:36):
Would he have rather it been an original song or do a cover?
Absolutely. An original song.
That's all I've ever done, right?
Right. And I watched that.
And I'm like. Okay, I mean, the video is kind
of cool, but I was like, it's ina different language.
I don't understand what they're saying here.
So yeah, I mean that was. Cool, I've never seen that.
Before, I don't know where it came from, whatever, but yeah,

(01:12:58):
if it was up to me, man, give mesome original.
Yeah, I figured. You were gonna say that that
was, I mean, you know, because you did start out doing like the
remixed version of House of Pain, jump around and stuff, but
and hip hop. Hooray, right?
Hip Hop. Hooray.
But when you finally got into your own, it was all original
after that. So absolutely.

(01:13:18):
Even an original one with Jim Johnston from WWE, man.
So absolutely. Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah. OK.
That's a good one, Ben. Thank you.
That was fun. Appreciate that.
It was an interesting little song there.
And so the next one is from our good buddy Cause Effect on
Instagram and he asked this question.
He says Wolfie take 5 current wrestlers and start a promotion

(01:13:38):
with them. Where do you have a home base
at? Do you have any money backers?
Who's your number one draft pick?
Do I? Have any money backers?
I would hope so. I couldn't.
Or I couldn't. I couldn't do.
This yeah, if I got money backers, I couldn't do this and.
Current wrestlers. Jesus, it's you, Isaiah.

(01:14:02):
Michelle in the backyard. Yeah, I'll have money backers in
your skeleton ring. Oh my.
God, five current. I mean, OK, so I'm just supposed
to take random people here? Take 5.
Current wrestlers and start a promotion.
OK, take 6 if you want. To I don't care.

(01:14:26):
I'll take take care. I'll take Ray Ripley.
I need to have someone to work with her.
And and I would take Liv, yeah, to work with her.
This is probably going to be allWWE because I just don't think,

(01:14:48):
I don't know. I might.
I might, man, just because. And I'd slow him down.
I'd probably take Osprey and what's his face, Kenny Omega.
I'd probably take them too and just slow it down a little bit.
And you know, if if it's my company and I've got my backers,
they're going to listen to me orthey're not going to work for
me. So yeah, I'd slow it down.

(01:15:08):
Just a hair, man. So that's four and five.
Just one person is standing out there by their self and talk.
Give me the Rock. He's a rock.
OK, yeah, he's the best. Talker right now and he's he is
man, he's the final boss, man. He's he's made himself into
that, Yeah. Plus.
There's all that extra stuff he brings with it.

(01:15:28):
That's a genius pick, actually, you know so well.
Cool man. Yeah, obviously we heard that
triple AI mean that's. Kind of a, a, a hard question,
man. I mean, five.
And then like, you know, you gotto do it big time.
And I mean, those are the biggest ones.
So yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
That's a hard question, yeah. I get it.

(01:15:49):
I get it. Now that makes sense.
Yeah. OK.
Well, cool. Well, so we have a third
question here, and that is from the Raging Bolt on YouTube.
And he asked. Yeah.
And he says he always wondered why TNA wrestling shows were so
family friendly even though theywere rated TV-14.
He says. In your opinion, Wolfie, which

(01:16:10):
is better in today's climate, anedgier TV-14 product or family
friendly? I think.
Wrestling has always been edgy. I I don't like family friendly
wrestling. I think there needs to be blood.
I think people need to cuss. I think there needs to be, you

(01:16:32):
know, violence, man. I mean, that's just what
wrestling is. So, yeah, yeah.
And you think that today's, you know, fan is, is they're,
they're mature enough to understand why that should be
there. I didn't I don't want to say
that because there's there's many, many fans that, you know,
just the whole society, man, yougot man, unfortunately you got

(01:16:55):
you got two sides right now. You got people that are fucking
weirdos and people that are on my side right, right.
You know what I mean? And I'm sorry to say that, but
it's just the way it is. I'm not butt hurt by a lot of
stuff and a lot of people are, but I'm just, and I said butt
right there. Yeah, man, wrestling is just

(01:17:17):
always been based on violence and, you know, red equals green
and, and that means blood equalsmoney and just just things like
that, man. I think it needs to be over the
top. That's wrestling.
That's what it is, yeah. I dude, I you took the words
right out of my mouth. Couldn't agree more.
Actually, I do think that there,I think back when I was a kid,

(01:17:40):
man, it was nice that we had, you know, N.W.A and obviously
you had Memphis too, which had its own element of, of family
friendly and adult content. You know what I mean?
But when it comes to it, like it, you had the N.W.A and
Crockett, which was more of the adult content.
Even though it wasn't like cussing and stuff, you would
still see a lot of blood and andreal like real life deal versus

(01:18:03):
the WWE cartoon stuff. So so I do like that there's
sometimes both, but because I dowant more fans to happen and
sometimes parents, like I know my brother doesn't let his
seven-year old kid watch, you know, AEW, you know what I mean?
Because they're very openly cursing and stuff all the time.
But and but with WWE, he feels comfortable because they're at

(01:18:25):
least there's some cussing, but it's not anything like, well,
what about the. Attitude area.
There was titties everywhere, I know.
That but when titties and butts.And I know.
And we watched it all and loved it all.
But here's the thing. I guess his seven-year old
wasn't alive then. So yeah, I.
Mean, yeah, but I mean, that's just wrestling.
I don't know, right? Like I said back in the day,

(01:18:47):
what got ECW over it was the fucking blood and the the big
bumps and stuff you probably don't want your kids looking at.
But who knows, man? Who knows?
Yeah. I know, right?
I mean, it's all whoever. It's what got me into.
It and look how fucked up I am now.
So there's your argument. I love it.

(01:19:08):
Let's just go with that. I like.
Let's go with it. Yeah.
Well, cool, man. Well, that is all right.
The book. The book's.
Coming out, read the Yeah, the book's.
Coming out. Yeah.
So we'll see what comes of what you put in that book.
I'm very interested to hear about.
Yeah, I was. Thinking about this the other
day, I was like, man, there's shit I'm going to my grave with,

(01:19:29):
but then there's also stuff thatI want to be out there, you
know? I want to be out there, so yeah,
what do I put in? What do I hold back from that
type of thing? How do you?
Let me ask you a quick question then.
How do you have a title for it yet I don't have a title.
Yet I'm open to suggestions fromthe fans, from you and and

(01:19:52):
another thing is the cover, 'cause they're like, we know you
draw, you want to Draw Something.
I hate drawing me. I fucking hate drawing me.
So I've talked to my buddy Stewart, who's a great artist
and I'm like, man, will you do this?
And we're kind of in, he kind ofwants to be kind of don't want
to. And I'm not really sure why he
kind of don't want to. Not sure about that.

(01:20:13):
So. I'm kind of open to what the
cover should be, and I'm open tothe title.
Is is. That your childhood friend
Stuart? Yeah.
Oh, man, that would be incredible if you would.
Yeah, I know. I know, wow, 'cause I'm sure
he'll. Have a good representation in
that so. Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Well, come on, Stu, do it bro. But.

(01:20:36):
Yeah, well. Hopefully we'll get that figured
out and hopefully you'll get a good title and time we got.
Time. Yeah, we're talking about a late
summer, early fall release, but in the contract we do need to
have everything together by the end of May.
So yeah. Yeah.
Well, yeah. There's plenty of time and

(01:20:57):
listeners out there and listenerland if y'all have something let
him know man might be something that you know he digs and wants
to go with you know so. You know we're not.
Well, I do actually. I said I was all done.
But I have one more question. Wolfie DI would like to hear
your thoughts on who's going to win the Royal Rumble.
So I have no fucking. Clue, man, whoever they want to

(01:21:18):
win it, I mean, seriously, I don't know, man.
I mean, there's so many directions you could go and
honestly, unless you're in the office, you don't know.
And, you know, I mean, they put so much stuff out there as far
as their angles. They've got it all intertwined,
you know what I'm saying? So who could win means this to

(01:21:39):
that angle. And yeah, so it's cool.
It's cool. They're doing a great job, I
predict. Punk, that's who I'm saying.
But we'll go with that. So yeah, we'll see.
Roman Reigns is in it though, soit's hard to tell, you know?
But anyway, I think it'll be cool.
We'll talk about it next week and we'll see what everybody
else thought too. So, but right on.

(01:22:00):
TuneIn, go chill yourself out after the glacier freeze, man.
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can find you on social media, Jimmy.
They can find me in the club bottle full above.
I'm just kidding. They can find me on Facebook.
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Give it up. Spaceman Jones with the beat.
Here we go. The 90s was ours and we did it
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immature moms, Buddy Wayne couldn't stand us because we
didn't wear socks. We did it our way in and out of
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(01:25:46):
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You can love it. We just did our thing.
Feel true to the game. Now we all love fame.
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