Jamie Dundee on GMBMPW pt.2!

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Hey everybody, it's yours truly nice man Jamie Dundee and you're
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you had such a great response tolast week's episode with Jamie
from my podcast Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling.

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So let me ask you this. You brought him up, Vince
McMahon. I would love to hear your
thoughts on this new scandal with Vince.
Here's the thing, it's only a scandal because he got caught,
right? Exactly.
I mean, listen, you're not a bank robber if you don't ever
get caught robbing a bank, you go into bank robber and run away

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with the money. They never say, well, that Jamie
Dundee, guys, he's not a bank robber because he didn't get
caught. When you get caught, it becomes
a scandal or it becomes something that Vince McMahon has
covered up murders. Vince McMahon has covered up
every rapes. He's covered up anything you can
think of. He's covered up because not not

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for the person, for himself, because it would affect his
money. And that's why they say money is
the root of all evil. Money is the root of all evil.
Because Vince McMahon covered upmany, many things in his life.
And why he would be such moron to think that he can give some
22 or 25 year old chick some money to shut up.

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He's lost his mind. Because first of all, the more
famous you are, ask Tiger Woods when he banged the Waffle House
chick, the more famous you are. I mean, am I wrong?
The more thing is, the more I want to tell somebody what you
did. It's not Mike Tyson didn't rape
that. He just didn't walk her to the

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limo at 2:00 in the morning whenshe went to Mike Tyson's room,
she thought she was going to go play Scrabble or something.
She went to Mike Tyson's room at2:00 in the morning and they
banged him. And because Mike laid in the bed
and said I'll see you tomorrow getting the limo, She felt like

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she was abused. She was she was not treated like
a lady. Listen, the lady don't come out
at 2:00 in the morning to like Tyson in the damn hotel room.
But that's what I mean by American is such a it's it's
it's well, it's it's only woe isme because Oh my God, I got
caught. Why would you think you wouldn't
get caught? If listen, if this man paid me

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money to hush hush, I'm telling on it.
I'm not telling on him. I'm going to have Jade Starr
tell on him that way. That way.
I didn't break the purse, you know.
And then after the shot money, she had her sister tell.
Well, I'll be damned. He's done that a million times

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here. Here's another one, Sonny DUI
and killed a man and she got 17 years, which is the minimum you
could get in that state of Florida for doing what she did.
And the reason she got that was because somebody knew somebody
who knew somebody who knew the judge.

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And if you don't believe that's true, you kiss my ass.
Because when I was 19 years old,I was arrested in Louisville, KY
for seven felonies for rolling in the gay bars.
I had criminal mischief on engagement, assault and battery
with an intense abuse. All this, it was 35 to 100
years. Wasn't that with Ronnie Travis?
Was that Ronnie? Travis, me and Ronnie.
Yeah, but Ronnie wasn't with Ronnie.

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He wasn't there at the gay bar with another dude I was running
with. But here's the thing.
Bill Dundee knew the sheriff, the sheriff knew the judge, and
all of that just disappeared when I was 19 years old.
I'm 53 now, and all of that justwent away and disappeared.
I was banned from all gay bars in Jefferson County, Louisville
for life. All darn.

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All darn. But here's the thing, it ain't
what you know. It's who you know in America.
And if you know the right people, that's what Donald Trump
did. Donald Trump said I'm going to
become the president to expose the government for what they
are. We already knew what they were.
But he brought it to the limelight.
Now guess what he just got? He just got five $385 million

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and he can no longer try to be apolitician.
Well, ain't that coincidental. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Only in America. Right.
It's only in America. Exactly.
Yeah. So so one of the big should.
I do that all the time. I love it.
No, you're great. You're great.
So one of the biggest names in in the attitude area is Stone

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Cold Steve Austin. And you have some history with
him. You have some history with him
in the USWA as manager, right? Tell us a little bit about
about, about that, Steve. Steve.
Steve is the real deal, man. Steve is what what what you see,
I talked to Steve a couple yearsago when he was doing running
that show, A Redneck island. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the. Reason that died is because the

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first year they put a over in the second year they put a black
guy over and they listed you take us any way you want, but if
you're on a country network channel and you got Stone Cold
Steve Austin as the host and thefirst guy to win a show called
Redneck Island is gay. Season 2 probably ain't gonna
draw because he did it because it is what it is.
You know what I'm saying? Steve didn't care.

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He got his money and got paid, but he knew damn good and well
that show was done. That one's done.
Yeah, that one's over. I called him and I said Steve,
right bro? I seized it because he he saw
Wolfie at the awards. Wolfie was building the stages
or whatever in Nashville at an award show, right?
One of them Grammys or whatever them real, real award shows.
And Steve was the Co host and hesaw Wolfie.

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He's like Wolfie D how the hell are you man?
He said where's this man done these man?
So Wolfie gave him me and my dad's number and Steve called
and and like I was saying, the earlier the more famous you get,
the more lonelier you are. And it was great because Steve
called me and we talked for literally hours.
And I mean it was really like 2 hours.

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My elbow was hurting this shit from holding the phone.
So it was because I guess when you get as famous and as popular
as you know, Michael Jackson status, Elvis status, don't
status the rock status, get thatfamous and that popular, you
really don't know who's your friend, who's who's out there to
get you, who just want, you knowwhat I'm saying?
It's hard to just to separate it.

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So all he wanted to talk about was man, you remember when we
did this? Remember that time on the road?
Listen, we made 40 bucks a night.
That's what me and Steve made together.
We made 80. He had a little bitty shit box
Toyota car. We would eat tuna fish out of
the can. I was he called me managerial
protege. He said managerial protege.
How much money we got left this shit.

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Our our room was $32.50. This is long before I found
drugs. All I found was 2 to fish
because I Dutch Mantel said one time said Jerry.
Jerry said, are you boys on steroids?
Judge Mandel said on steroids, you don't pay enough money for
us to be on food. I love that.

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Right, me and Steve made 80 bucks.
The room was $32.50 a night to split.
So that was 1750 each. So now we got $22.00 a piece
take eat off to eat off and thenput gas in that little car and
go to Louisville the next day from Memphis, then Evansville
the next day. And but you know what I would
have done it for free. I and that to me is that that

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was the greatest because it's two people doing what you really
love, man, just learn, you know what I'm saying?
It's kind of like. When you're a football.
Player and you start in Pee Wee and then you go to the little
Little League and then you go tojunior high, then you go to high
school, then you go to college and you finally make it to the
pros. And then comes the money and the
bullshit and all the other shit that comes with it.

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All the years before that, you did it for the love of the game,
man. You get it because because it
just meant the world just to go to the building and somebody
asked you for your autograph andyou just I don't know, it's just
because it's so it's so in you and you just love it so much.
And then you get up there to theVince Mcmahan bullshit where
everybody wants to go. And then once you get there,
it's kind of like, man, I sure wish I was just back in Memphis

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making $40. It's just terrible.
But it's just it's everybody's backstabbing, everybody trying
to get somebody'd job, everybody's telling on mother.
I mean, if it was the penitentiary, they would all
stab each other to death becauseI'm like, Jesus Christ, man,
They they would tell on you. But they call it ribbon, right?
Exactly. Yeah.

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Are we just ribbon? Cocaine in his bag.
You know, you just pat it on me,dude.
You just hold on me, right? Right, right.
Oh. Man, we're.
Just ribbon. Yeah.
Yeah, it's some stiff ribs. If that's the case, man, you
know sure enough. Sure enough, man.
And here's the thing. As they say in life, everywhere
in life, you meet the same people on the way.
Yeah, as you do on the way back down.

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So that's why you better be careful who you put on the way
up, because on your way down, they may be on the way up.
And it's up to them whether you get to continue on, whatever it
is you do in life. You know what I mean?
Amen. Amen, I mean.
That's just how life works, man.They get once again and they
what you know is that you know. Yeah.
Yeah, and I mean, you can argue that Hulk Hogan or Stone Cold, I

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almost kind of lean towards Stone Cold is the biggest name
ever. You know what I mean?
As far as did you by, you can't feel like you saw that in him at
the time or did you just see thedrive or?
Or did everybody saw that in himat the time?
OK, you know. What?
I mean, everybody kind of like, yeah, I just saw a thing the
other day. It said the top five people that
Steve Austin hates. Oh yeah, I saw that, yeah.

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Right number one was Jeff Jarrett.
Oh yeah, now. I've heard they've made it up
for whatever. Now listen, I understand why he
hates Jeff Jarrett. He hates.
He probably hated Jeff Jarrett just like the rest of the world
hated Jeff Jarrett. First of all, it's called Jared
promotions. Second of all, he was pushed and
pushed and pushed on top becausehis daddy owned the company.

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But as far as drawing dollars inMemphis, I'm not saying anywhere
else. I'm just saying in Memphis Jeff
Jarrett didn't draw a house ever.
The reason being is because he'sa blonde haired, blue eyed
millionaire and you want everybody to believe that he's
paid his. You see what I'm saying?
He it wasn't really Jeff's faultbecause Jeff did it right.
Jeff started out as a referee. Jeff worked out Jeff.

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Jeff went to the office. Jeff did everything you're
supposed to do except change hisname.
If he'd have changed his name, Ibelieve he would have drew money
in Memphis. But Stone?
Cold says the reason he never ever got put over was because he
had to work with Jeff to make Jeff look good and Jeff's daddy
owned the company and that kind of bothered Steve is what it

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said in this video thing I watched and and and and and very
much so I understand that because out of nowhere, like I
said, I started running around there when I was 1415 years old.
I didn't even know there was such person as Jeff Jarrett.
Jeff Jarrett was not I knew Brian Lawler my whole life.
I knew Dwayne Johnson, my whole like when his daddy changed
companies with my daddy, they would be there.

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I knew the road dog, I knew Dustin Rhodes, I knew everybody
be Eric Watts. I knew all these second generate
Doug Gilbert, Eddie Gilbert. I knew all these people, but I
never heard of Jeff Jarrett. And then all of a sudden he
showed up and he had long city ass hair and he was driving a
$40,000 Lincoln and he was making $2000 a week when
everybody else is making 300 andit's like wait a minute.

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And it was kind of one of those things when we're old school, if
you don't draw in the main event, they drop you down to
second or third match and you get paid what you draw.
You know what I'm saying? And it's happened to a lot of
guys. If you're in the main event and
the house drops $5000, you know you're going back to second
match and we'll try to get another day because if it don't
work, they're not going to keep putting money in it.

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Well, even if Jeff didn't work, they still paid him the top
dollar. And I try to understand, you
know, if I'm the owner of a company, I'm going to take care
of my kid, but I'm damn sure notgoing to pay my kid the top
dollar above everybody else thatdrew the money.
It's just bad. But that's, you know what I'm
saying, Promoters or I don't know, promoters or promoters

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are, I mean, look at Don King. Look how much money he stole off
everybody. Can't do nothing person as a as
a wrestler as he is the real deal.
He and and see that's what the world knows that the world knows
people that aren't what they saythey are.
Ric Flair everywhere Ric Flair went, he took a bunch of chicks
that he spent a lot of money andbought the whole building

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whatever they wanted, because that's the lifestyle he said he
lives. So you believe so you know, it's
just it's that. But once again, no matter what I
say, it's just my opinion and everybody's got one, but the
whole world can see it. You can do there's books, as
they say, the record, but go to the record, but go to the books
to show you how many people showed up when so and so was in

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the main event and show up and that'll let you know for real
what really went on. Right, right, right.
No, that makes. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Now let me ask you this. Have you ever partied with Rick
Flair? I did.
Let me tell you a good story. You know, my brother-in-law,
Bobby Eaton. So Bobby and Rick, Rick love
Bobby and you know, my brother-in-law and my sister and
my niece and nephews and them lived in Charlotte.

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That's where they moved to. You know, Bobby had a contract
with WCW his whole life. And you know, if their neighbors
were Arne Anderson and Ric Flair, it was Ric Flair.
Arne, Anderson and Bobby, they all lived in the same little
area and well, you know, my dad became the Booker there one
time. So we all moved there.
So we were all and Ric Flair took me on Thanksgiving night to
go see the Carolina Panthers play football because I drove, I

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drove from Nashville to go spendThanksgiving with Bobby and my
nephews, nieces and my sister. And of course they Rick was
there and a couple other guys. Arne was there and Tom Zink was
there. You know, the Barbie, Barry and
all them lived in the same area.They were like a little
clicking. And so Ric Flair was going to
see the Carolina Panthers play. And I said, I want to go and I

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don't know if you're supposed tosay this or not, but not that I
really care. The cocaine man went with us and
it was the cocaine man, me, Ric Flair.
And we went to the damn CarolinaPanthers game and it was great.
And I made Ric Flair spend about, I don't know, seven, $800
on me. I've never been to a Pro
Football game. And I said, Oh my God, Rich and

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I had one in jerseys because I had no mommy.
I worked for Jared and so. And Rich said, hell yeah, get
what you want kid, I ain't shit.And I bought a big rubber
Carolina Panthers helmet head thing.
I bought a jersey. Everything they had in the
concession stand thing, I had Rick buy for me.
And I put it all on and we've entered the building.
And then we only stayed till half time because at half time I

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don't even know the game, the score, nothing.
I just know that half time they wanted to go to the Kitty bar
and their old ladies were at home and so the only way they
could go to the titty bar is if we left at halftime.
So we left at halftime and snorted coke all the way to the
titty bar and went in the titty bar and hung out till about the
game because you know in the titty bar they had TV's and the
game was on. So when the game ended, the
night ended and we went on back to the house and I remember my

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sister saying I couldn't believeyou had Rick spend all that
money on this shit. I go why?
He's Rick. I can't believe you didn't get
more out of him. That's what I would say.
That was all they had like a rubber helmet thing that you put
on and dirty. They didn't have much in there
to choose from one of them landing some some red fans.

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I got everything they had and I didn't get to do shit, but I
just I was with Rick flair. That's.
Amazing. That is amazing.
Yeah, me and Wolfie partied withhim one time in WCW too.
You know, we went to the bar because, you know, he knew I was
Bobby's, you know, brother-in-law.
And then, of course, everybody knows my crazy sister.
As Tracy Smothers used to say, if you think he's crazy, you
ain't seen shit. So you met his sister?

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Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
Is that the is that the time that Wolfie got chewed out by
Arne Anderson? Is that the time?
Yeah. And there's another time.
Did he ever tell you when he gotall drunk and stupid and I said
I don't have your back in this situation?
He was going to punch tank Abbott in the face.
No, no, I haven't heard that story.
Oh my God, he's. So drunk, he's got one eye shut

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and he said I'm just going to her punch that guy in the face.
And I take Abbott. He goes, yeah, I go, well, I
ain't got your. He's going to kill you.
Ox hardly is one thing, but tankAbbott?
Is a different you mean I'm like, what do you mean what I
mean he's Tank Abbott. He's going to matter of fact,
matter of fact I'm going to go over there and get on his side.
I'm going to beat you up with him when I close and he's

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looking across the bar. He said I'm punch him in the
face and I'm like not not when I'm in the building with him.
You know I'm not. I'm constantly.
I want to put the boots to him with.
Oh my God, that's so funny. Oh goodness.
Got the heat. That was always the wonders, but

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really it was Wolf. Honestly, if you listen to all
the stories, all my stories are funny, fun, but all whoopie
stories are ending. He beat the guy in the National
Guard Armory of this dude was a Sergeant.
Whoopie punched him in the face and Whoopie liked to jump on
people who shit when he when he had a when he was a little
manipulated and had a little bitof manipulating going.
I'd say Whoopie clicking, punching all these people in the

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face, man. That's so funny.
Oh my God. Yeah, Yeah.
Well, hey, there you go. And.
I go to rehab. He's like, I'm here to quit.
Good luck. I punched my friend, my best
friend in the world. I punched him in the eye and
he's hugging me. I said, look, I'm just here for
support because I don't want to quit.

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I'm not here to quit. I'm just here for one thing.
Is this the time that I've seen a picture of you maybe in a vest
and a diaper? No.
Is that not the time? No.
No, no, that was just. That was just about 10 or 12
years ago at the, that was when I, that was about, I've been
with my wife 15 years. So that was about 13 or 14 years
ago. That's when I had yes, yes, my,

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my baby girl with that. She was about a year 50, yeah,
about 5 years old. And I went to the rehab because
I did a backslide, as they call it.
Really. I just went high one time and I
hated every minute of it. I was so paranoid and so ashamed
of myself. And so you know what I'm saying?
It was miserable. But anyway, and so I went to the
WWF rehab because first of all, they pay for it for life.
So like, I'm going to use this and it's in Florida and you can

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lay on the beach and it was really nice.
So but I went down there for onemonth and listen, I got there
and about two days later, man, Istart shitting and I just, you
know, your body's detoxing, everything is leaving.
And, and that was their solution.
They give me a diaper and I said, really, this is your
solution? And so I put my diaper on my

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motorcycle boots, my vest, and Iwent down to all the meetings
and I wore that diaper for days.That's amazing.
Baby, I changed the diaper. The same diaper, but.
I did change the type of book, but it was great because you
know, down there these people are all like mega, mega super
doctors. I mean this rehab is it cost

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hundreds of thousands of dollars.
There's no, and, and they never seen nothing like me in this
place. And so when I rolled up and they
gave me a diaper, so I just woreit to all the meetings and shit.
And these people are doctors andlawyers and these are these are
like big time doctors that, thathave, you know, started doing
the morphine their self or something, you know what I mean?
Just like that, you know, they don't, they don't play that shit

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in the doctor world. So they have to really go to
this rehab and, and then I was very entertaining there.
They they kind of, they kind of enjoyed me being there.
I'm. Sure, I'm sure you're
entertaining anywhere. I know you are on the.
I think so, but my wife says, you know, she said it's funny
because everybody says how, how is it living with Jamie Dundee?
And she'll say he's at the time,I don't even know he's there.

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I guess it's because when we do this kind of things, it's been
so long since I've done it. I guess I just get back in the
mode of JC is or whatever. But I guess most of the time I'm
just sitting quiet dude in my house.
I do what my wife's and kids tell me to do, and that's what I
guess you're supposed to do. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
I did do that. I love this.

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What do they call that? ADHD, right?
My daughter, my daughter, I was on the I parked the car at the
store and I saw my two daughters, Blaze and Jaden
coming down the street. I knew it was their car.
So I go out at the edge of the road and I'm waving at them.
And she, she calls home and she says, mom, Dad's doing that,

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just waving at people. And I said no, that I was just
doing it. I just went out to wave at my
daughters because I saw. But she had to call home and
tell them. And she's like, Daddy's doing
that autism thing again. I do.

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I have all kind of stuff, right?You know, I put on my little
Halloween outfits and I hide in the house.
And then when they come home, I yeah, I jump spout on them and
I'm like, yeah, I'm Superman. I guess because I didn't get to
be a kid, I'm now a kid again. I don't know.
Of course, no kid on you. My wife says all the time.

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He said you never know what I'm going to see or what's going on
when I open the door at home. Yeah, I'm either asleep or I'm
dressed up an outfit, hide in the closet because I've seen
them coming. Yeah, I'll get on the roof and
you know, make make like moo sounds and get, I don't know,

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never a dull moment. But like I said I quit doing
drugs and lifes really slow and boring so I just have to
entertain myself. Health No.
It sounds like your life is not boring at all brother So.
My kids are out of school and then my wife to work is I'm just
an old by myself. Usually that's when I would do
drugs or something. So I don't do drugs and I don't

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like to drink because it gives me a headache and the next day I
have to apologize to somebody. So I quit doing that.
Because. I don't think I've ever went one
time drinking that. I didn't owe somebody an
apology, Somebody close to me, somebody really close to me in
my family that. You don't want to have to get an
apology. No, because I did not mean to

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have my Dick out at the gas pump.
It's the alcohol. It's not me.
I don't know what that was. Yeah, I don't know how to act.
And but I'm a smart enough man to know that I don't know how to
act at that point. And then let me tell you
something that you have to see yourself.
Like if I Google my name, the first thing that comes up is

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that video of me and Wolfie, or I'm all drunk and I call the
rock whatever. And if everybody in this planet
had to see their self in a statelike that every day, they, they
would quit doing what it was to make them get there.
Amen. But as people, what we do is
when we do dumb shit like that, we just suppress it.

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We put it in the back of our brain and we carry on and we try
to avoid those people so we don't have to remember what we
did. But I have to.
Every time you type in Jamie Dundee on Google, that is the
first thing that comes up. And so I was like, God, that's
really me. And lots of people love it.
They think it's great, it's entertaining.
Yeah, because it's not you. If it was you, you would think,

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I can't believe I said that or did that.
And like I said, so I haven't touched the drop of alcohol in
many, many years. And I haven't because I owe
somebody an apology. And I know I don't know how to
act. So like, yeah, my daughters, 15,
and she's just now allowed to Google my name.

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I mean really like that I think.I think you've met your match
with her though from the sounds of it now.
I just did one for Dutch Man Tail and this is this is pretty
pretty. My wife just brought this to my
attention. Dutch man tails podcast thing.
You know I did his job not too long ago and he puts it in
segments, right? This is crazy.

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Every single segment had been watched 20,015 eighteen 1021.
There was 1 segment that I couldnot believe this number.
The day we looked it up, it saidJamie Dundy reminisces on
cocaine. Now every other segment had
18,012 thousand, 15,000. Do you know how many people
click that Segment 9? I believe it.

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I said, wow. My wife says, see, they've
already nobody cares. They've seen that a million
times. They wanted to see all this
bullshit, which I understand, but I mean the the the I was
like, wow, that that that is just nine people when we looked
it up at that time, had clicked anti something thousand had
watched every other segment. That is just that blew me away.

(26:22):
I was like, wow, man. You know, I mean, I guess that
that just speaks volumes, I guess, you know.
I mean, like, let me give you some numbers real quick.
So with the Wolfie podcast, I have all the numbers here.
Your two episodes you did with us, one of them is at 11,000
downloads and the other one is at 8000 downloads.
So yeah, because here's the thing, it's harder to do these

(26:44):
podcast apps than it is YouTube.Everybody can go to YouTube and
they're on YouTube, but wheneveryou don't put it on YouTube and
it's everywhere else, it's a little more difficult to find.
So people find it. But man, 11,000 people listen to
you. Almost 20,000 people downloaded
your two episodes. So it's pretty amazing, man.
So a. Matter of fact, you know what's
even more amazing? Hey everybody, listen, send me a

(27:06):
dollar. Bro that's dude, that's that's
it right there. Trotter just pulled this story
time with Dutch with Jamie Dundee.
It's got how many 47,047 thousand views on that segment,
37,000 And the cocaine thing only has like 1028.

(27:33):
But I mean, it's not crazy to mebecause the world kind of knows
what my past was and ain't like,you know, it was kind of like
when Vince McMahon, I don't think he went.
I wonder who Jamie Dundee is. I'm sure he knew who I was
before the phone ever rang I guess.
You know, we got our hands full with this one, Yeah.
Yeah, that's kind of like that Jimmy Cornett talking about.
He tried to fire me. I said you can't fire me.

(27:54):
Your company shut down. Tried.
To put it off on Cornett, that'shardcore, man, oh man.
Up and he up and he's laying outwith chicks and he won't come to
the shows. He said I've got to fire him.

(28:15):
So he said Cornett fire him. So I come in TV and TV starts at
10. I got there 1035 or something
and Cornett's coming there. He said Jamie, I said what?
Jimmy, you know, I've known Jimmy since I was a little boy
because he met Bobby. You know, he used to come to my
house at Christmas and everybodywas mean to Jimmy.
They kind of picked on Jimmy because Jimmy, you know, he
wasn't really considered one of the boys, you know, but anyway,

(28:36):
he is now. But but but at that time, you
know, he said, Jamie, what are you doing late?
I said, I guess because I left late.
I don't know what you want me tostay here And he goes, well,
Jamie, I want you to know you'refired and I busted out loud, but
I said, how you going to fire me?
You just your company just shut down from.
Smoking. Mountain just closed.

(28:58):
We let y'all come to our companyto get a little bit of a run
just to feed some of these boys.And you don't even work for us,
so you can't fire me. I said I.
Went on TV and did my thing and went on and I really did not
ever know till he did the video that says I tried to fire Jamie
Dundee and he wouldn't let me. I didn't know that.
I didn't really didn't know theywere for real.

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I thought I never, I never gave it a second thought.
I thought they Jimmy was just around or something and come to
find out he was kind of serious.I thought it didn't work for me.
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podcasts. Jamie, so sounds like, sounds
like your wife has been an excellent influence on you and
your life. When did you, when did you meet
her? Tell us about that.
I hate her. Let me tell you something.
Like I said, she challenged me First off, and nobody's ever
challenged me before. And I'm going to tell you the
reason I married her. Two reasons.
First reason I married her is because she took my teeth and

(30:52):
went out on New Year's Eve and sent me pictures of my teeth at
the bar without me because I wasa drunk prick long before the,
you know, time to go party on New Year's Eve.
I'd already got drunk and I was a prick and, and when I passed
out, she said she thought I can take his money.
No, he'll get more money. I can take his jewelry now he
don't give a shit, he'll get more jewelry.
She said I'm going to take his teeth because he ain't going to

(31:13):
go nowhere without his teeth. And sure enough, she took my
teeth out on the and I woke up and I said, where's my teeth,
bitch? She said, they're right here at
the bar, you asshole. And she sent me pictures of my
teeth are on the bar having a drink and my teeth are in like
my teeth went out on New Year's Eve without me.
And so I thought, it's got me, man.
This chick has got me. Nobody's ever got me.

(31:33):
And then the second thing she did and I said, I'm going to
marry you. And we was in the shower and I
peed on her leg and she peed back on my leg.
And I was like, you know what? And marry you.
And that's why we got married, because anybody has ever gotten.
And 30 years later, we are stillhappily married with all our

(31:56):
beautiful daughters. That's awesome.
Yeah, that is. Awesome.
Nobody's ever got me. I've been selling justice since
I was 8 years old. Nobody gets me in this world
right When? You find the right one though,
you know that's. Right.
And listen, you know the best part?
My wife grew up Christian in a Pentecostal family.

(32:19):
And listen, you talk about opposites and track this right
here is one of those. No, to her whole family, her
whole town, every person that's ever our teachers, anybody
that's ever met her is like, youmarried that guy.
How? How?
Yeah. Why?
Who? I mean, why?
And this is I listen, this is how it started on Myspace.

(32:42):
She sent me a message and all itsaid was hi, that's it.
Just said hi and I read you werelike.
Yes, you want me to take care? Of you, the rest of your life.
You want to get married, we'll have kids.
We'll run off together. I'll freak you out.
I'll wake you up. And then it will be 15 years
later. We'll be a happy couple.
That's what I read. No, that did not mean none of

(33:02):
that. It really just meant hi.
How you? Doing.
Well, she had, she had, she had seen me wrestle, you know,
because she's 10 years younger than me.
So she, she had saw us on TV andshe lived right by Evans.
But of course, you know, she grew up in a really Pentecostal,
you know how Pentecostal to me, I call it a cult.
It's kind of a cult. You know, they, they definitely,
they are all believe and they, they are there and they all stay

(33:25):
together and they, everything they do, they do together.
And she came with the church 2 times to the to the Coliseum and
saw me wrestle. And she used to tell her mom and
daddy, he's so cute. You know, she's 10 years younger
than me. So when I was 25, she was 15.
So I think she's about like Jayden saying, you know, Snoop
Dogg, shooter, whoever, you know, but you know what I mean.

(33:45):
And then ten years later, she just happened to say on my space
hi. And I was like, hi, what's up,
girl? I was actually working on the
circus. Me and my dad was on the road on
the circus. I was getting shot out of a
cannon and I was a clown in the Kohl Brothers Circus.
And yeah, this Dick steps hi andI say hi and I could I fly back

(34:06):
home. I leave the circus and I come
back home and I start doing water tanks with her dad, you
know, going around the world, you know, sandbast of water
tanks, painting them. And then if we are 15 years
later, here we are. I'm doing your show.
So everything is pretty weird, man.
But but definitely must credit 100% to my my beautiful, loving

(34:26):
and wife took my teeth and peed on me that I love her.
She's my friend, that quiet forever.
And it's one of those things that I can't imagine life
without her, man. I really, I really can't imagine
life without her. Hey, what about her?
Right? Come on.
Well. You know, I got, as the guy
said, all that. You know how, bless their heart.
I hate to keep going back to thesubject, but but you know, when

(34:46):
Austin passed away, people try to console you.
You know what I mean? They try to say, you know,
Jamie, I'm so sorry. A person says to me, Jamie, I'm
so sorry to hear about your son.They said, but at least you got
six more. Wow, Wow, That's what I said.
Wow. And they were not meaning that
in no bad way whatever. The way that came out, I just

(35:11):
forget to laugh. But I thought, I wonder if they
ever read that back to their self more.
I mean, yeah, hell yeah. I mean, hell, six more.
That's great. I mean, you know, they're just
sometimes you don't know what tosay to people, you know?
Yeah, I mean, it's like saying you lose a finger and you got 9
more. I mean, that's you still miss
that finger, you know? And I would never compare your

(35:33):
son to a finger, you know what I'm saying?
Right? Exactly.
But I mean, that's what I mean. But but people did just in life
sometimes see, I know this person.
I know him. I've known him for 20 or 30
years. Like I said, we wrestled in the
same building every week. Those wrestling fans, not only
become they, they, they, they, they're, they are your survival.

(35:55):
But not only that, they are yourfamily, man.
They are these people that listen, they, they, they love
you as much as they hate you in the entertainment world.
But also many, many, many peoplehave fed me, clothed me, took me
in when nobody else. Well, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, the wrestling world is definitely it's a click and
that's what's wrong. It's not a click no more.

(36:16):
Nobody really knows nobody. The fans don't really know the
guys. Like like I said, it's just, but
everything changes. You know, the my dad's
generation before ours said we killed wrestling because me and
Whoopi wore shorts and we had tape on our wrist.
I've. Heard your dad say it a couple
times. Oh, they're killing the
business. This is the shit.
My dad told me, my son that was taking him off again, awesome

(36:37):
was like 5 and he said he puts tape on his wrist and he came
into the dressing room and my daddy said what are you doing
that tape on your wrist, boy? He said I'm a wrestler.
He said no, no, no, real wrestlers don't wear tape, only
shitty wrestlers. Daddy, are you a shitty
wrestler? No, I'm not a shitty.
He said Pop said you was becauseyou wear tape.
And I said yeah. Pop said this big hat right here
killed Memphis too. You know that big tall hat I

(36:58):
wore? I said my ass.
He ended up wearing some top hat.
Managers Steven Regal look like Jimmy.
So I'm like, you know, that's killed Memphis.
Bill Dundee look like Jimmy Cricket.
What do you think did kill Memphis?
Honestly, was it Larry Burke? Was it?
OK. Fair enough.
Yeah, Yeah. What killed Memphis Wrestling,

(37:19):
Yeah, was when you let the outside world in, no matter what
it is, it kills it. It killed magic.
It killed the circus. It killed the mossy.
It killed when everybody. You let everybody in because,
listen, everything ain't for everybody.
When you let everybody in, you definitely shut it down and kill
it, no matter what it is. Do you?

(37:42):
Do you see what I'm saying? No matter what.
If you got a BBQ place and you're kicking ass in barbecue
in your town and you let two other dudes come in and they're
your cousin and your brother andthey go over there and open
another BBQ stand because you want to keep expanding, what you
did was you kill you. See what I'm saying?
Too much of everything. Like I said, the mafia style
world, once the Mafia, Johnny the Bull, Garbano and all them

(38:05):
start to get on the cover of Time magazine and all that shit,
you think that's it, it's over. Once you let everybody in, you
kill it no matter what it is, man.
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And that's.
What killed Memphis? Yeah, yeah, Jared, you got
something? Earlier you were talking about
Bobby Eaton and you know. I've always.
Wondered like what do you think?I always wonder what people

(38:25):
think. What do you think was the better
Midnight Express? Do you think it was Bobby and
Stan or Bobby and Dennis? He credited Bobby, you know,
because Stan was a fabulous one.And let me tell you something,
Steve and Stan were over like Rover, bro, you know what I
mean? But like anything, we as the

(38:47):
star or the the whatever you want to call it, we think we're
bigger than the show and nobody and nothing is bigger than the
show. The show will go on without you.
I don't care who you are and what show it is.
It will go on without you because the show is what makes
and So what happened to Steven Stan?
And then they get to pay. They walked out.
This is oh shit, in 1980 something when they left this

(39:10):
company, they walked out making $2000 a week, which is huge
money. You know what I mean?
In the 80s, huge money. Jimmy Carter just got done being
president. Ronald Reagan just took back
over the world's in a recession.I mean it's it was damn near as
bad as like this idiot running the country now.
Same thing is they walked out making $2000 a week and then

(39:32):
they probably made another 2000 a week in pictures and T-shirts
and shit you know what I mean? And they wanted more money so
they walked out and never knock home.
I'm sorry to say, but the truth to truth never made another
nickel in the rest of the business because they thought
they were bigger and better thanthe show.
And nobody, nobody is bigger, better than the show, no matter

(39:52):
what the show is, because it's it's been going on long before
we got here and it would still be going on long after we're
gone, no matter what the show is.
You know what I mean? And so Stan.
Lane, when he went to the with Bobby, he was good looking.
He was young. But if you watch it, Bobby does
all the work because Stan probably thinks he's, you know,
he's still staying the fab and he don't have to.

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You know what I'm saying? Bobby is dentist.
Once again though, they did it for the love of the business,
not for the money in the contracts.
That's you can see the difference in that when you
watch them. They would, they would have done
it for free. Stan and Bob, you know, Stan
credited Bobby. They look good together.
They were a good looking team. But once again, Bobby carried
the old load, did all the work and Stan was just there.

(40:36):
You know what I mean? It was and Bobby.
Bobby could have wrestled A broomstick by himself and drew
money with it. Amen, Amen.
Because. He was a wrestling ologist.
He he was just and what a humbletime.
The world lost something when they lost Bobby.
Amen that. Is sincerely and absolutely

(40:58):
correct. You know, I want to kind of go
in a different direction. I love Bobby by the way.
He he, I knew him just a little bit and he did a lot for me when
I got my little. Foot Bobby.
That's all you have to know, Bobby.
Those that really met Bobby, Bobby was so just such oh God,
just such a kind kind of good person man that just and he

(41:21):
never forgot where he came from.He came from Huntsville, AL in
the project. So a little white boy living in
the projects in Huntsville. He had to fight.
He had to fight a lot. But when he got money and he got
rich and he would go back to Huntsville to see his Mama
Dorothy. He would give every little kid
in that hood a dollar $2.00, five ice cream, whatever Bobby
Bobby was just because Bobby never forgot where Bobby came

(41:42):
from. You know, and that's what
separates those that that are and those that ain't.
I don't like the Rock, The Rock.The Rock never forgot where he
came from. He grew up poor, his daddy was
Rocky Johnson. He grew up.
But you know, he just gave that damn UFC fight our house the
other day. Y'all see?
He gave downtown Bruno a truck because he didn't forget.
Downtown Bruno gave him $400.00 when he had nothing to buy him

(42:04):
at all. You know, shit like that, that,
that, that's some real shit man.I don't care who it is, what it
is, that is real shit man. For somebody to do something
like that. Kid was sleeping on the gym,
then the gym came from Africa tochase a dream and the Rock saw
that and bought that brother a house.
Now we all know it's a tax writeoff, whatever it may be, but the

(42:25):
he did it for because that dude,you know, it's just, that's such
a kind person, man, you know, and that really that dude really
is just, I don't know that dude.That dude is one of the best
thing on our planet, the highestpaid dude in the world.
And of course Jamie Dundee's dumb ass has to call him the
word of Jesus. What's wrong with me, man?

(42:46):
You know? I mean, you know, mistakes are
made, but it. Is what it is.
I said it, I can't take it back,but I've already said on many
videos, interviews, the reason Isaid it.
I was a drunk, I was on drugs, Iknew my career was ending.
I was jealous and and here's another thing it got a lot of
views and sold a lot of DVDs. So that's what we were there to
do. So I don't know, but it is what

(43:08):
it is. But like I say, not that he
gives a what I say, but one day I'll have to see him again
because we're from the same world.
And I will tell him, like I telleverybody, I'm sorry, I was
wrong. Because if you put a picture of
him in a magazine and a picture of me next to it said which one
of these is the N word, they would all vote for me.
Well, I mean, you know. From the bottom of my heart, I

(43:38):
apologize because it bothers me.I said it just because he never
did nothing to me but be my friend.
You know, we were little kids growing up together.
He, you know, he never entered. There was no reason for me to
ever say that about him except Iwas mad drunk and jealous and
you know what I mean? And so it is what it is.
Now, listen, I didn't make the word up and I learned it in

(43:59):
America. I said learnt with ATI learned.
But I learned that in America too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is, you know, Yeah.
It is what it is. I said it but can't take it
back. It was me, but I apologize
because I didn't say it because for no other reason except I was
mad he was moving on and I wouldn't.

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(45:06):
And so, you know, we're kind of getting to the end of our time,
man. It's flown by as it always does.
But you know, I want to ask you,you know, we've become friends
with these guys a little bit andespecially Scott Spade and, and,
you know, getting to know. You know, so talk.
About your time running up thereto pow and and working in
Chicago with Scott and all thoseguys let.
Yeah, let me tell you something,man, That that that was right at

(45:27):
the end of my where I knew my mywrestling career was over and I
was done. And the guy that actually
trained Whoopi, Rick Reynolds, he came to me.
He said, Jamie, I got a place you need to go.
Yeah, I guess he just, you know,Rick's known me a long time.
I love me some Rick Brennan. You know, yeah.
And I'm listen, that's my buddy man.
But but he, you know, he said, Iwant you to go to this place

(45:49):
with me. He said I'm just, we're going to
get you 100 bucks. But you know, whatever, money's
really irrelevant to me, especially in a place like that.
Because what Jimmy Blaze did forme, I could never ever repay
back. I can never ever thank them or
tell them enough. They they showed me.
That was when I just first started quitting doing drugs and
I knew I couldn't be around the wrestling world now, Rick

(46:09):
Reynolds said. Come on, I want to take you to
this place, man. You're really going to like it.
And so I went up there with my boy, buzzed up and Shane Morton,
you know, my Tennessee guys and I rode in the truck.
We went all the way up there. And when I met Scott Spade and
all them people, bro, I don't know that it changed my my view
and my way of the wrestling business of life and really get

(46:29):
it saved my life, man. To go.
Up there, I mean really did to go up there and see them people
and, and know that I could do the wrestling business without,
without, without the drugs and the bullshit and really have a
good time and enjoy it and, and,and do it.
And once again, I, I did it for the love of my business that I
had done for a long, long time. You know, right.

(46:49):
And, and, and, and Scott Spade, beautiful wife, thanks to Jamie
Dundee. They are married with some
beautiful children because they came to my wedding and
everything happens for a reason.I believe that 100%.
And I met those people up there,Mr. Ricolo, mom, Stoli, the two
clowns. I met them, I met them people up
there and they, they really did show me that, that that life

(47:12):
life is, is, is, is, it's what you put in, what you get out of
it, what you put into it. And me just being, you know,
crazy old Dundee and everybody tell me how great you are in
life. And they just begin to believe
all that bullshit, right. And I got to go up there and I
got to see the wrestling world as a, as, as, as a business and,

(47:32):
and, and as as a family and as friends instead of the wrestling
world where, you know, can't wait to get your spots, can't
wait to tell on you. No digging you into stabbing you
in the back. Everybody up there was a family.
They did it together. They did it as one.
And like I've always said, JimmyBlaze saved my life, whether he
ever knew it or not. Where superheroes come to life,

(47:53):
bro, that, that ain't no bullshit.
I, it was, it was. I can never ever thank all those
people enough. And I hope that they know how
much that they really did help help save my life, man, and for
real. And so they let me live their
home and they treated me be likeone of their own kids.
Mr. Riccolo did and mom stolen and, and, and I just, I just,

(48:14):
they are my truly my family. I used to send them messages to
say, can I change my name to Stolzman?
Because that's Mr. Riccolo and everyone.
Bill, Bill, Bill is my dad. He didn't do good.
But I, I really like the way y'all, y'all parents up there
and I'd like to come on up thereand y'all can ground me or
whatever. It ain't bad to be grounded in a
big, old, huge house with anything to eat or drink.

(48:34):
And it was nice. Yeah, no doubt.
But. Scott Spade and all the I
learned a lot, you know, in the South as kids, we can't wait to
get out of the house. That is our dream when we were
kids. We can't wait to turn 18 so we
can get out of our mom and daddy's house and we can do
whatever it is we want to do. You know, in the North, man,

(48:55):
it's like today, they're 2528. They still live in the.
It's like they, they stay a family until it's time for them
to leave the nest. You know, in the South, it's
kind of like mom and daddy and Ican't wait to if you got out of
here and I don't know, it's just, I don't know.
It was something it really did honestly save my life, man.
Because I don't know if I wouldn't, if Rick Reynolds
wouldn't took me up there, I don't know if I would have ever

(49:17):
made it out of that period of life really, because I was so
down. I was going in and out of jail
all the time. And it's kind of like one of
those, man, you know what I mean?
I'm so tired of it. And I really wasn't trying, but
it that's what we as people and drug addicts do.
I'm so tired and tried and nothing ever going right.
No, really what I was so tired of is not having no drugs and

(49:38):
not having, you know, just the fame and all that shit leaving
and, and then I got to go up there and just, it was, it was,
it was a beautiful thing, man. And then I'll never be able to
ever repay those people. And I hope they know that.
They, they love you to death, man.
I from the ones I've spoken withand I know I talked to Rick
about once a week and man, you know, Rick loves you to death,
man. And he's like when you go get

(49:59):
that Jamie on the podcast, I'm like, we're working it out, man.
We're working it out. Next time you talk to Rick, you
say Jamie Dundee told everybody about that girl's ass prints on
the front of the cop car. Just say that to him and then he
can carry on with the story if he wants.
But but telling that's one of mygreatest stories is ass prints

(50:20):
on the front of the cop car. That's all I'm going to say.
OK, that the story continues then, yes.
Sure enough, because if you wantto know the answer, you got to
talk to. Rick OK, I love that.
I love that. Jared.
You got the last one, brother. Take it all.
Right, Jamie. So this is a question I always
like to end with. If you can look back on your
career and think, man, that was my favorite batch I ever had,

(50:43):
what would it be? Bar none.
Now let me I'm going to put. It's got to be, too, because the
first one has to be. The first one has to be when the
Rock'n'roll Express put me in Wolfie over Louisville Gardens.
Oh man, that's a great. That, that definitely sent us to
the next level. It, it and plus those were my
heroes, man, You know what I mean?

(51:04):
That that unbelievable. And, and, and the people, the
people, the way they popped and shit was just, it was like, wow,
man, they, they, they really didbelieve we could do it.
You know, whether they know it'sa work or not or whatever, what
they don't realize in our world is for somebody to put you over.
It's hard to, you know what I'm saying?
I'm up like I ain't putting it over.

(51:24):
You know what I'm saying? I'm not doing that for these.
You know, he's kind of like whenAndre did it for Hogan.
You know that that takes a lot to get you.
People don't even understand that part.
But but, but it's a respect thing.
You got to earn that to be able to be put over by so and so, you
know what I mean? So bar none, when The
Rock'n'roll Express put PG13 over and then the one that's

(51:45):
right there with it is WrestleMania semi main event
against the Road Warriors in Chicago.
You know what I mean? I mean, they don't get no better
than that baby. Like I said, and like I've said
a million times, they told us take the double clothesline, hit
the mat and roll out. Whoopi rolls out and I stay in
the rain and that don't come by and he goes roll Dundee and I go

(52:07):
no way. But I'm never going to be on
WrestleMania again. They going to come and get me,
I'm going to get my time. He said good shit brother.
Every time I point out, every time I want to prove how smart
PG13 was, I always go to the 97 Royal Rumble match where you and
Wolfie came out with every guy from the nation and y'all always

(52:29):
knew where the camera was. It's magic.
That's great because Wolfie saidto me, how in the are you in
every shot? And I stand and in the building
they had them big trons up on the on the walls, right?
And every time I would, I would stand at the turnbuckle, I would
watch them Tron, and when it swapped to the camera, I'd run

(52:49):
around to that other turnbuckle.Because I knew.
Because. I knew I'm going to get my time
on this TV because you don't know how long you're going to be
there. You don't know none of that.
But I know this is the top of the world, Mama.
This is what we did. Just like Super Bowl of
football, everybody on our planet that's ever put on a pair
of boots wants to do a WrestleMania.

(53:11):
I always said I want 4 things. I want to be in a magazine, I
want to be at walk the aisle of the Madison Square Gardens.
I want to be on WrestleMania andI want an action figure.
And by God, a little 165 LB hellraising did it my way mother.
I got all of them. So you know what?
For all the critics? Kiss my ass.

(53:34):
And don't they know me, You know?
Oh, that I earned it. By God, Yeah.
Amen. Well, you know, Speaking of
that, yeah, it is a great answer.
I I think those are great matches.
And, and, but Speaking of that, we are going to get action
figures taken, I promise by 2024, by the end of 2024,
hopefully something will be in the pipeline for actual

(53:55):
professionally made by a major company action figure some way
somehow we're going to figure itout.
OK, so that is. Great with me, brother.
And you know what? I ain't even mad if you put
Wolfie with me. Well, well, what that's the
goal. But you know, either way, we'll,
we'll get it figured out. But there's there's been a lot
of interest and I and I I think I just needed to know that

(54:17):
you're cool with it and Wolfie'scool with it.
So once that happens, hopefully,hopefully we'll have some action
figures very soon. So by.
God, I'm so cool with it that the first one they make, they
ain't even got to pay me, but all the rest of them they make.
I want a little money from them but the first one they didn't
got to pay me before they could just send it to the house.
Well, the goal, the goal would be to get you some money.

(54:38):
But the all that Jared and I areasking is we just want, we don't
want any money from it. We just want a free set of
action figures. That's all we want.
So. Let me tell you something, if
you get that done, I'm a give you 2 and the other one you can
play with because everybody wants to play with PG13 but.

(55:01):
Oh man, Jamie, this has been amazing.
You know this. Thank you.
So. Much, man, I.
Mean I always brother. Thank y'all, man.
You know, whatever the best partabout it is, Jaden Starr said he
he won't actually figure of herself too.
Or I'm never doing another radioshow for y'all again, OK?
Anyway, she needs one. She'll.
She'll be the variant, yeah. Yeah, all.

(55:21):
Right, well, we got you girl. We'll take care of that too.
But anyway it is. You're hard to run the man right
there. And this is if it's 30 years
from now, then whatever. But we're gonna get you one
before before we leave the planet, right?
That's the point. Yeah.
Thank you, Jamie. Thank you so much for coming on
and sharing your story, man. Thank you for talking about your
son. I know that's not easy, but we

(55:42):
just thank you so much for. But man, I just want to say
this, Jamie, you know, you are one of the most misunderstood
wrestlers of all time, I think, because no.
But to know you, to know you is to love you, man.
You. There's nothing about Jamie
Dundee that if you don't know him, if you don't like him, you
probably just don't know him, you know, and.

(56:04):
But not see, if you don't like me, it's because you know, JC
Ice, I'll tell you, those are two different people because JC
Ice don't give up. You know, as Katt Williams said.
He don't give up and he don't care.
He don't give up Jamie Dundee. I am a father, a grandfather.
I I cry it's sad movies actually.

(56:26):
I cry all the panel. I don't know what that's about.
But anyway, that dude is definitely that's why we keep
him put away. We keep him, we keep him locked
up in the box and but also without that dude, I wouldn't be
who I am. So I mean, you know, he is a
part of who I am. But thank you for the come from
me and and and I appreciate that.

(56:48):
And I try to live, like I said, I try to live a good karma type
of life. I believe if you can go out here
and do dirty shit and try to scam and connive, then bad shit
comes back on you. But if you just go out here and
try to do everything you think is right, because nobody says
what's really right or wrong. You know, I mean, people say
it's wrong for me to teach my kids that I cuss and I did drug.

(57:08):
No, it's not because that way they won't do it.
Hopefully, you know, hopefully. And if they do, there's nothing
nobody can do about it because all we can do as parents is God.
We can just give them God and say this is what you should do.
Like I told my star baby, this is what you should do.
But if she does the other thing,then the consequences you have
to pay. You have to pay for what you do.

(57:30):
You have to consequences. You have to pay the piper and I
don't care who you are. No, that's true words.
And honestly, I don't think there's anything else we need to
say after that, that one that that's wrapping it up.
Perfect. So once again, JC Ice, Jamie
Dundee, whoever you are right now, thank you so much.
I know you and thank you for being on Give Me Back My Pro
Wrestling. It's been an honor and a true

(57:51):
privilege to have you on, brother.
Thank you and you. Know what?
By God, if they would just listen to what it's called Give
me back my pro wrestling, then Vince McMahon wouldn't be where
he's at today. Amen.
Thank you, buddy. You too, buddy.
Kiss my ass. Oh my goodness, dude.

(58:15):
There's. Some clips in there, oh.
Man, it's chock full of them. Hey everybody, Gene Jackson here
inviting you to check out the Retro Wrestling review where
each week I'm joined by some great Co host to help me review
classic episodes of USWA Championship Wrestling.

(58:36):
And right now we are doing week by week reviews of 1993.
But we don't just do reviews. Sometimes we get a chance to
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Plus do watch alongs. It's a lot of fun.
So check out new episodes that drop every Wednesday at
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(59:04):
Hi, this is Mike Needham, host of the Reckless Abandoned
podcast with Mike Needham. We invite you to jump on your
favorite podcast platform and search for the Reckless
Abandoned Podcast and give us a listen.
I'm sometimes joined by a part time podcaster, part time Co
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We talk wrestling, we talk pop culture, we talk local events,

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local happenings in West Tennessee, and a ton of other
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Also look up the micro group Podcasting Family on Facebook
and see some of our other podcasts we have out there.
Until next time, make good choices and always remember, no
Dollar, no dice. So that was another great

(59:58):
episode. Hey Wolfie, tell them where they
can find you on social media. Jimmy, they can find me in the
club bottle full above. I'm just kidding.
They can find me on Facebook. My personal page is Warren Wolf
W LFE. I'm on Instagram at Warren Wolf.
13 You can always find us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and
YouTube at live Wolfie D Here's the thing Wolfie always has

(01:00:20):
offers for his autographed photos.
He has a selections of some awesome photos from throughout
his career that he will autograph and personalize any
way that you want him to. Just contact him either directly
at his personal Facebook page orthrough anyone of our other
pages, and we'll make sure you get in contact directly with
Wolfie. Get.
Those photos right, Wolfie? Yeah, I've.
Got some good stuff on there, you know, to help with the

(01:00:41):
podcast folks. If you can't get out to a show
to meet Wolfie D, there's nothing like that, especially
for the fans of PG13 and Wolfie D.
And before we go, you can alwaysfind me your host Jimmy Street
at James Rock St. On Twitter and Graham and
YouTube. And hey, Jenny, before we go
real quick, I just want to add in there from the bottom of my
heart, I really appreciate firstof all, the work you've done for

(01:01:03):
this podcast. You have worked your butt off.
Secondly, the people that are liking the page.
Beyond that even more is the people that are listening and we
really. Appreciate that.
Yeah. And remember, guys, the podcast
drops a new episode every Mondayat noon and our past episodes
are streaming now on demand on all major podcast format.
Thanks again. Yeah, PG13 Memphis Wrestling

(01:01:26):
Hall of Fame Classic 2024. Give it up.
Spaceman Jones with the beat. Here we go.
The 90s was ours and we did it with Bride. 15 times that.
Chance. What a hell of a ride.
Rock'n'roll couldn't beat us. Totality and Doug not Smothers.
Dirty white boy who called themselves thugs.

(01:01:47):
Tears for terrible H for hell PGBoth got locked up the county in
jail. The kid was real.
And we were immature moms. Buddy Wayne couldn't stand us
because we didn't wear socks. We did it our way in and out of
the ring. Bought a real rap swagger to the
Memphis thing. You can hate it, you can love

(01:02:08):
it. We just did our thing.
Still true to the game. Now we Hall of Fame PG13 put
respect on our name.

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