Jimmy Powell on GMBMPW!

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Hello, this is Jim Powell, the original Dirty White Boy, and
you are listening to Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome toGive Me Back My Pro wrestling.

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Hello, Sir. Don't know.
Now you know. Baby, this is Hot Rod Bigs,
Jared, Jimmy St. We're going to take them to the
limit One more time, baby. Right here.
Oh, give me back my pro wrestling.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome one more time to the Give Me
Back my Pro Wrestling podcast. And I'm here, as always with my
brother from the same father andmother, the Plastic Chic.

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How you doing Chic? I'm doing great, brother, but I
feel like there's somebody else here with us, somebody with, I
don't know, just a lot of charisma.
Yeah, we're adding some charismato the podcast today, ladies and
gentlemen, and great way to introduce some chic.
He is from the Territory Wrestling Review podcast.
He is our former guest and greatfriend Quinton.

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Charisma for. He's our Territory wrestling
expert, I guess you could say. Absolutely.
Welcome to the show, Quinton. Hey guys, how y'all doing?
We're good, buddy. Good.
Thanks for coming on with us, man.
I appreciate the invite. Yeah, well, I'm going to give a
little intro to this here. So basically, you know, I was
texting back and forth with Quentin because, as you know,

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the last five or six episodes, Quentin's given us some great
questions to ask. And so he sent me this name.
He was like, hey, man, why don'tyou try to get Jim Powell on
sometime? And I'm like, yeah, that's a
great idea. I sent a message to our official
Booker, Shane Morton. Shane got in touch with Jim.
Then, you know, I was talking toJim and we were going over some

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stuff and it was a good little preliminary conversation.
And I talked to Sheik. And I said, Sheik, you know
what? I said, let's bring Quentin on.
And Jared was like, I was thinking the same thing.
So today and maybe some more in the future, hopefully we'll have
a little more charisma on the podcast with us.
So thank you, Quentin, for doingthis.

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And I'm excited to hear some questions you got for Mr.
Powell. Oh.
I can't wait, it's going to be fun.
Yeah, yeah, we're going to have some fun.
So she how you been doing brother?
I've been good, been good, just I know summer's winded down, I
guess, but kids are back in school.
But my life's a little less busysince the kids are back in
school. But it's I've been a whirlwind
of a summer, I think. I feel like every minute's been

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tied up with something, but I'm just anxious to do this one.
Happy to have Quentin with us. I know his expertise is well
known. I mean, I was, I was lucky at
the at the live podcast we did. They did that trivia and I was
lucky enough to get on Quentin'steam.
I was, I didn't have to do anything.

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I just sit there and listen to him answer every question.
So and they split us up. Man, that was messed up.
I. Know they split us up.
And can't break up the team. Dude, come.
On. But yeah, Quentin, good to have
you, brother. How you been doing man?
I've been doing all right. Same old, same old, Yeah.
Good Lord, let me wake. Up this morning, so that's
always a great thing. That's a positive for sure.

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Yeah. Well, you know, you know, very
excited to get him on. He's the OG dirty white boy.
We'll talk about that some, you know, but he's done a lot of
cool stuff. And we definitely appreciate Mr.
Powell and we definitely appreciate Shane for helping us
hook this up. And we definitely appreciate our
guest, Jim Powell. So I tell you what, we'll be
right back after these messages.Promotional consideration paid

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All right, we are back with our very special guest today, Jared
Quinton. I'm stoked about this guy.
You know, when we were doing ourresearch on this gentleman, man,
you could go back so many years just to see all these incredible
matches and all the great names he got to work.
So I'm super stoked to get to talk to him.
Today, our very special guest, the one and only original dirty

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white boy, Jim Powell. Mr. Powell, welcome to the show,
Sir. Thank you for coming on.
Hey thanks guys, I appreciate y'all having me.
You know, I don't get get asked for a lot of these kind of
things, so I'm looking forward to it.
Well, that is a shame, right fellas?
Absolutely, man. But hey, we'll take you.
You know, as we always do, we start off every show with the
Sheik's favorite question. Take it away, Sheik.

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All right. Jim, this is just going to let
the audience know kind of your influences and wrestling you
like to watch who maybe you kindof patterned yourself after
anything like that. But if you had a Mount Rushmore,
like four or five guys in wrestling that you like, those
are the top four or five wrestlers in my mind.
Who would that be? Well, I guess they got Tojo.

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Yamamoto's absolutely my all time favorite.
That's awesome. Growing up, you know, as a kid,
I watched Tojo and then the first first week that I worked
for Nick Goula. So I sat in the dressing room
and he walked in sit down besideme and I'm about swallowed my
tongue. But he's he's always going to be
my my number one. It doesn't matter what anybody

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else says. Terry Gordy was one of my best
friends and Terry helped me a lot.
He was just a year, about a yearand a half older than me.
And we are from within about 20 miles of each other.
And matter of fact, I rode by his his mother's old house just
the other day just because I wanted to, you know, but he's

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just, he was always one of my one of my absolute favorite Brad
Armstrong, probably one of the best guys I ever got in the ring
with. I'm probably the one of the best
guys that ever got in the ring. You know, Tom Pritchard, I think
was just just tremendous. And these are probably some guys

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that, you know, it's not, I'm not talking about probably the
biggest names ever in the world,but these guys are guys that,
that made a big impact on me andon, on, I think on the, the
industry. And I don't know, maybe I love
Gypsy Joe. He was one of the toughest guys
I, I ever met in my life, you know, and, and I, I got, you

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know, honestly, I respected Tom Ernesto a lot.
And Jodi Hamilton, they worked with Tom was Booker for Nick
Gulis when I first went there. And Jodi, I worked for Jodi with
his first, his first Deep South and, you know, just respected
him tremendously. So all those guys, I guess I
could probably go on a bunch more, but I won't.

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Yeah, that's a great list though, man.
Yeah, Anytime. Terry Gordy and Gypsy Joe, man,
come on, let's just, you know. Absolutely.
And you know, it's funny, Quentin and I actually know Tom
Ronesto's son Tim. So yeah, we were.
The same age and Tim was wrestling.

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I actually somebody, somebody told the, the tennis, the
athletic Commission that I was underage and so which I was, I
was 15, But so I had to go figure out how to how to kind of
scam on my guests. And I got AI got a birth
certificate. Back then, birth certificates
were in my county were printed off on black paper and the the

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letters were white. So I, I blacked out the the 1963
and I made it a 60 or 59 and maybe I don't know, whatever it,
whatever it was anyway to make me 18.
And I used the that white out. You don't remember the white out
Delicious. And I used it and then I made
another copy of it so it looked real and I gave it.

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I got my license with Tennessee Athletic Commission.
And then Tom Ernesto asked me. He said, look, I know you're not
18 years old, he said, but we don't care.
He said, but neither is Timmy. And I'd kind of like to know how
you did that. So I told, so I told him.

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But that was kind of. So I remember Timmy, I saw him
on Scott Fields reunions of Tennessee and yeah, and told him
that story and we had a big laugh about it.
That's awesome. That is a great story, actually.
Very cool. Well, so after the Mount
Rushmore, we always go to me andthen I always start with this.
I want to take it back to the very beginning here.
So we obviously have heard that incredible story that that was

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something we were looking forward to hearing from you.
So I'm excited you told that. But tell us about your younger
days when you were born, you know where you were born, your
high school, Talk about that. Well, I was.
Born in Lafayette, GA OK and 1963 and we from as far back as
I can remember there was 3/3 TV channels for you know ABCCBCBS

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and MB which was the same everywhere but channel 12 and
Chattanooga carried it live wrestling and Nick Gules and was
the promoter and Harry Thornton was the the commentator.
And so from the time, I guess from I can't remember not
watching it on Saturdays. And so I went to Ringgold High

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School, but I was already wrestling, you know, when I was
50. I started when I was 14,
actually. But, but I had my mom worked for
the tax Commissioner's Office. And Norm Lizzy was one of the
ring announcers. He was the ring announcer for
television where Harry Thornton was a commentator and he owned

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property in Walker County, so hewould come in there to pay
taxes. And mom told him that I loved
wrestling. So he he gave her a tickets to
TV. It didn't cost to get in, but
you had to have tickets because it didn't hold.
But 75 or 100 people, you know. Yeah.
So I gave her tickets and they brought me up there and they
used to interview people on. They'd walk, hit normies.

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We'd walk around during one segment and interview fans.
And he interviewed me and asked me who my favorite wrestler was.
And I told him Tojo Yamamamoto. And so.
But that was that was kind of a young and I remember that, you
know, being a kid. But then, you know, as I got a
little older, my dad owned a business and he he had closed

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the business and had this big metal building.
And Terry Gordy's uncle, JD Kyle, who they called Captain
Hook, came down and and rented the building from him to have
wrestling on Sundays of all times.
Back then, you didn't have wrestling around here on
Sundays. But but he but he did.
And that's where I first met Terry.
He was a he was under a mask as the wild called Irishman and him

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and a guy named Jerry Penny, Jerry Mika and so so Terry
become Terry Mika. Later he rustled out the Mundra
mask in some areas. But but I met them there.
I met Ted Allen there. He was rustling.
It's Ted Atlas. He was just, you know, he was
just starting out and I wasn't but about 12 or 13 then, I

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guess. But so buddy, the real Buddy
Fuller, not Buddy Welch that they called Fuller, but Buddy
Fuller wrestled his Buddy Atlas.He was he was the guy that I met
there that he was later on from Calhoun, GA, was the Magistrate
Judge there and a pastor of a church for years.
It was like 30 years. But but those guys like that

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and, you know, we just. I I got to hanging around them
and, and I want, I knew I wantedto be a wrestler, always did.
Captain Hook kept telling my dadhe would try and he'd work out
with me. He never did.
So dad got dad got aggravated about it.
Anyway, they you know, Hook Hook, he, I don't know.
He, he ran a few months there and I never did draw.

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Probably over 30 or 40 people actually, but but that's kind
of, you know, I got around it and got to meet them there,
there and then when I was 14. I'm a guy from Somerville that
we youth down the road. He was, he was going to promote
a wrestle. So he'd been refereeing a little
bit for outlaw stuff. That's what they called the
independence back then with Outlaws.
So I he was going to run the Somerville Junior High school

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and he knew I wanted to wrestle.And I matter of fact, my dad had
a little country store and he had a building Outback and I
took a bunch of two before and turned them up on their, their
edges and made me a wrestling ring, put put some boards down,
you know, plywood down. And that's where I trained.
That's where I learned to take bunks.
That's about all the training I had at that time.

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And Dennis Stanfel, who was promoting there, he told me, he
says, if you'll get you a mask, I'll let you wrestle in the
first match. And I was like, oh God.
So Terry Gordy's mother was a great seamstress.
And so she had he made me some gear and a mask and they called
me that the mask Outlaw and I wrestled him.

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This young guy named MO Johnson.He he came down to my building
to that little shed and and worked out a few spots with me
and we had a match and the ring broke that back.
The bottom rope broke during ourmatch and by the time the main
event was over, there wasn't even ropes on the ring and and
half the floor was messed up. My dad said, well, I'll tell

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you. He said if you're going to do
this stuff, he said we're going to build you a ring.
So he actually, him and some friends of his got together and
began to go to town to look at rings and sketch it out.
And they built me a ring. And that's really how I got in
the real in the real wrestling business because I couldn't
wrestle. But Nick Gulis was running a
spot show in Riceville, TN. And the ring they can't.

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Whoever was pulling the ring there called and canceled.
And Larry Cheatham from Cleveland gave Nick my phone
number and said, this guy's his kids got a ring.
And so it's like, you know, I got out out of school at 3:00,
so I was probably home about 3:30.
And my phone rang right after I got home.
And this rough voice says, that's Nick Dulas, boy, You know

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who this is? You know, Nick Dulas and you
know, I was like, Oh my gosh, you know, And he said, I need a
wrestling ring tonight and I give you $75.00 to take it up to
Riceville, Tennessee. And I told him I'd take it.
And I didn't have driver's license.
And so I started calling my dad and I finally found my dad and

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told him, I said, you got to gethome.
We got, I got the ring trailer hooked up and I said, we got to
take this ring to Riceville, Tennessee for Nick Gulas.
And he said, are you crazy? You know, I said no, Sir.
And I said we got to do it. I said, if you don't get here,
I'm I'm driving. And he said I'll be there in 15
minutes. So we ended up in Russell County
that night and they lacked my ring.

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It was a really good ring. Matter of fact, Harley Rice one
worked on it one time, told me it was one of the best rings he
had been on. Holy cow.
But but I used it for years and years and it actually got me a
job in in Georgia Championship Wrestling.
Ronnie W hired me because my ring, you know, and so it got
me, it got me around to start with.
That's kind of how I got the wrestling business.
That is awesome, man. That's a story, man.

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Yeah, it's pretty cool. I'll tell you.
I'll tell you what had they built my ring so that you could
turn the poles around and make it down, make it low, because
Dad knew a lot of those outlaw shows and little bitty buildings
with low buildings. Yeah.
So they had poles sticking out on both sides of the of the on
both on the pole on both sides. And Ripper Collins.
Do you remember who that you know who that was?

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Quinton. I know that name.
Ripper. Collins him and crazy Luke
Graham were A tag team and Ripper.
Ripper played the city and Luke was the wild guy and Ripper,
Ripper and he I don't know if heplayed it or it was, but anyway,
he had to, you know, he was always taught real feminine.

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And he come out that night before the before they open the
doors and looked around because they knew it the new ring and
they some of them want to see what it was, you know, because
they didn't know what they're going to get into.
So he goes and looks at the ringand he looks at those poles
sticking out and he calls my dadover there and he says, pardon
me, Hun. Are they are those poles little
poles there for a reason? Or is this just a male ring?

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And my dad almost had a heart attack, you know, he didn't.
But. Yeah, but anyway, they like the
ring. So, you know, I got actually
Nick called me the next day and said, boy, they, they tell me
you got a good ring, so you wantto start hauling at some.
And so I was like, yeah, so actually in high school, I went

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to school and just as soon as school was over in the, in my
freshman year, my dad was sitting at the, in the parking
lot with my truck, with his renttruck hooked to the ring
trailer. And he'd pick me up and we would
go to Florence, AL, Huntsville, AL, you know, just, we would
work Mondays and Tuesdays. And most of the time I didn't go

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to Nashville. I didn't go to Nashville till I
actually got driver's license onWednesdays.
And then Louisville, you know, some of the other towns, Bowling
Green was Thursdays. Then I didn't go there driver's
license either. So I but I would make the loop
and go to school too. And I never missed a day of
school in my high school becauseif he didn't miss a day of
school, he didn't have to take finals and I didn't want to take
finals. That is awesome.

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That is. Awesome.
It was pretty cool. That is a haircut.
Childhood, I'll tell you. Yeah, no doubt, man.
I'm jealous actually. But it's a good jealousy, you
know, that's. Awesome.
I wasn't very popular at school because, you know, I don't know,
I guess kids thought that I don't know they they just
thought it was crazy. I guess that I was doing what I
was doing. But and they were all one of the

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haxler wrestling coach asked me one time I didn't wrestle in
high school and I told him I said, you know, what does it
pay? And he called me a smart A like.
And. You know, but.
You went pro. Before you were ever in, I never
wanted to do anything but wrestle, you know?
Yeah, yeah, That is awesome, man.
Wow. We can just wrap it up here,
guys. That was incredible.

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That's one of the best stories I've ever heard on a podcast,
and I've done over 300. So yeah, those are incredible.
Well, OK, so we're going to passit off to our territory
wrestling expert Quentin Charisma.
Quentin, take it away, brother. All right, Jim, actually we kind
of know each other. I've met you a few times at the
wrestling. Yeah, I remember now I'm.

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Sorry, when he said Clinton to start with, I thought, I think I
know him and. I sent you those, your files
from the Ethic Commission. Oh, your license?
Did thank you very much yes, Sir, there's no.
Problem. So I was looking back at that
and it's asked on there, it saidyou know, that's if who you

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previously worked for and there was 2 names on there that I've
never heard of. One of them was Kenneth Preston
and the other one was Troy Hunt.Who are those guys?
Gosh, I hadn't thought about that in 100 years.
They were two guys that promotedPiedmont AL.
OK. And and get and Gadsden and

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actually Troy Hunt, I think run,run Piedmont Kenneth Preston.
I believe it was Gadsden, Kenneth Preston one night
crawled out of window with the money to hit keep from paying
the guys. I'll I'll remember that he took
the money and ran for literally.So.
But yeah, that's, that's who those were.
That's funny because somebody just told me, Beau James just

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told me that he found the, the license application that Terry
Gordy did in Tennessee. And and it said after where he'd
been, you know, where else he'd wrestle.
And he said NAWA, which I'm, I'mkind of, I kind of think I know
where that is, but or what it was back then.
But and then they asked him where he'd been licensed and he
said Georgia don't have a license.
That's all he put on there, you know.

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Actually, I I sent that to Bo. I'm the one that sent it to Bo.
Oh, did. You.
Oh, nice. Nice.
That's awesome. Yeah, yeah.
Bo's cool. Bo's actually been in touch with
me recently, so that's even cooler, man.
So. Yeah.
'Cause he just did the Bradshaw,Jerry Briscoe and Bradshaw
podcast that came out today, I think.
Yeah, so. Well, we're, I'm originally from

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the Bristol area, just in the Virginia side, and I love East
Tennessee wrestling and stuff. And, and Bo's the ex on that,
you know, he he knows it all on that.
So, you know, I always say that Quentin has forgotten more about
Middle Tennessee wrestling. Well, Beau has forgotten more
about East Tennessee wrestling and we know, you know, but
anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's cool, man.

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Well, that's cool. I'm glad we found out who
Kenneth Preston and Troy Hunt were.
That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome.
All right, Jim, so tell us. So talk to some about some of
the different names you've wrestled as you know, like, see,
I've seen the name of the Angel.Can you can you tell us about a
little bit about that gimmick? Oh man, I forgot about that.

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That was just that. I don't know.
I can't even remember where it was at.
Miss Gordy made me a white outfit with a white mask, and I
had some I already had, got a pair of white, you know, Karl
Hildegard boots back then. And so I worked on some shows as
the Angel. I'm not really sure why, but I
remember doing that. Now I forgot that.

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That's cool. What about some other gimmicks
you did? I know we'll probably get to
them, but early on maybe. Well, I, you know, Terry, of
course, but when they started doing the, you know, the free
bird thing, they, they were playing the music he told me.
And she said, Jumbo, you're going to have to get you some
ring music, he said. Everybody's it's going to be the
biggest thing they ever was. Because they were the first,

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right? So that's awesome.
Yeah, yeah. So we, I, I, I, I, you tried 100
different things since the, you know, since Free Bird was Lynyrd
Skynyrd. I, let's say I, I, I didn't, I
don't remember what I played. Tuesday's gone.
I I don't know what that meant. I don't know why I did that.
I used that for a while. They called me.
They called me down in the outlaw towns and Boaz and

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Albertville. I was like Stardust or
something, you know, And I'd come out with, that's Gordian
made me a red long robe all the way to the floor.
And I would throw glitter up in the air, you know, I don't know,
it's crazy stuff. And you know, but we did, you
know, those are kind of things you do and I don't the Bam Bama

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boy. And then Mike Jackson, he
decided he started working in the town and said he I went from
Alabama and he was so he's going.
That was him, you know. So we laughed about, you know,
but we did the actually from Nick George would always come up
with these crazy ideas. And Nick had told me, he said,
boy, if you'll, I had really long curly hair.

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And he said, if you'll cut that long hair, I'll make you a star.
And I was like, yeah, right. OK.
And I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, he can make me a star.
So the day that I graduated actually from high school or I
graduated the first quarter of my senior year.
And so I cut my hair and when I came to TV, he put me over on TV

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and he said, I told you, boy. And so they just got in Ricky
Craven, who was from around Atlanta, I think.
But Ricky came up here and he would work.
And so I brought him the TV. So I actually brought my own guy
to do put me over, you know, butI didn't know at the time when I
brought him. I beat craving.
I remember I'd never won on television.

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I remember Harry Thornton and they didn't tell Harry to finish
it a lot of times because they wanted that, that real reaction
to things. And when I won, it's actually he
he said, give me pile 1. Like, you know, he was kind of,
he was as surprised as everybodyelse was because the fans
probably thought, man, wrestlingreally is fake.
And he won. But but Nick, but Nick actually

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gave his word and he started using me not only to take the
ring, but to to wrestle in the town.
So George had this idea that himand Rocky Brewer were teaming
and I must say Tojo, Mr. Oshiro and the Great Togo were Nick's
version of the N.W.A world six man tag champions.

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And so so George said, Jimmy says we're going to put a mask
on you and you're going to be 1 our partner and like in Bowling
Green, you're going to be Mr. Bowling Green and in Huntsville,
Mr. Huntsville. And then, and so they ran
Huntland, Tennessee. So I was the Huntland Hornet
there. I'll always remember that

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because I, I passed through by asign that says it's 12 miles to
Huntland when I'm going to pick up merchandise from my retail
store. And now every time I'll, my wife
will look at me and say, are yougoing to say it again?
I was the Huntland Hornet, you know, but so my brother was
really mad when that happened because we actually beat Tojo
Togo and and Oshiro in the Bowling Green and we were the

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world tag team champions and andI couldn't tell nobody because I
was under a mask. And my brother was like, man,
you mean we can't tell nobody because K Fade was real, K.
Fade is real. Tojo had told me, he told me
that he said if you you know, ifyou smarten anybody up, it's
easy to pull a trigger. And I'm not sure.
I mean, I love Tojo and he was like, hey, to me later, but I I

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think he was serious, right, Right.
That's awesome. But that was kind of that was
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And then when I after I hadn't been, just as soon as I

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graduated, I moved to Nashville and Nick sold out.
And so when he sold out, I thought, oh gosh.
So I put in, I sent my resume toBill Dundee.
And in Memphis he was looking for Jared, I think at the time.
And then so Tojo put in a good word for he went over there
because Tojo stayed with Nick till the very end, even though
him and Jerry were really close.And so he went over there and he

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put it in good work for me. But at the same time, Candy
Devine, a lady wrestler in Nashville, I had gotten to know
her and she had was going to to Detroit to do a spot for the
sheep. And I rode up there and he ended
up hiring me. And so he wanted me to be Tex

(27:32):
McKenzie junior because she had worked against Tex McKenzie in
the 70s. And so I didn't even know who
to. I mean, I'd heard I'd seen him
in magazines, but I've never seen him.
So, you know, I had an out. I had to miss Gordy again.
Make me a Texas outfit. And you know, I, I want to

(27:53):
actually ended up going there and Bill Dundee hired me in
Memphis too. And somebody sent me a few years
ago, Rose, a Candy Divine sister, sent me a newspaper clip
and me and Rick McCord were advertised as the tag team in
Nashville. And I didn't, I didn't go.
I can't. So I called him and told him I
wasn't coming. And so I went to work for the
Chic and you know, it was the Sheik was a terrible payoff guy,

(28:16):
but but he was absolutely it it,it was not one of my heroes
because I loved his crazy gimmick.
And I got to work against him for every night, just about.
And then he took me to Trinidad and Tobago and to the West
Indies in South America. And I was just young, you know,
really young. So I mean, I was 18.

(28:38):
I was 19, I guess by then, but and I got to work with Mil
Mascaras over there and I and Dos Carter and Louis Martinez
men Louis Martinez were were were buddies because he was a
babyface. But I I had worked to heal in
some other places against Louis too.
But I mean, there's just so manyof those guys that were over

(29:00):
that she was carried into those town.
And I didn't know we were running opposition to the
office. And the office was Carlos
Cologne. And later on, you know, I
thought, Madam, I got somebody could kill us.
You might not make it off that island.
Yeah, because she didn't care. He didn't care.
He'd do anything. But it was.
And so Bill Dundee, later, when I went to work with Jared later

(29:22):
on, Bill asked me. He said, you know, you're,
you're that was really a stupid move to go to work for the
sheep. And I said, well, Bill, you
know, it might have been, I said, but I learned a lot.
And, you know, I got to see a lot of the world with the with
one of the most famous wrestlersand the business.
Ever, ever, especially from his time, you know, he was one of

(29:45):
the most popular as far as known, you know, so that was
great man let. Me tell you a story, please.
Yeah, I went to I was working for the sheep and he was kind of
when Gwendolyn down, but his sonwas booking a lot of stuff and I
still working a little bit. He wasn't running there a lot as
much as he had been. I moved to Dearborn, MI to start
with and so I took my ring with me.

(30:06):
And so they they were using my ring and because they like my
ring too. So some of his family was
hauling the ring. Well, one night his son comes to
me and says, hey, what would youdo if I told you somebody stole
your ring? And I said, well, I don't know
what I'd do. I said, you know, because I
don't have proof that it's even mine.
And he said, well, we're not sure where it's at.

(30:26):
So I was like freaking out, you know, And I had I had this guy
from Chattanooga with me, Gene Spurlock.
He was a women. They needed somebody to do some
jobs, you know. And so I took Gene and we were
up there. And so I asked the sheep's
grandson. He liked me a lot.
And I asked him, I said, have you seen my wrestling ring?

(30:46):
And he said, yeah, it's at my, my uncle's house.
And I said, well, do you know where that is?
And we didn't have GPS back then, you know, so he, he told
me where his uncle lived. So I kind of nosed around and
figured out where he lived. And I ended up in the middle of
the night going to there and backing up, giving Gene I had a
pistol with me. I told Gene, I said, first time,
shoot up over the house, second time, shoot at whoever comes

(31:07):
out. And I stole my ring back.
That's awesome. Oh man.
That was that was when I was finishing up.
I was finishing. I was done anyway, you know, I
mean, I knew all was that time. That territory was dead, you
know, they wasn't running. But a couple of times a month
then and and I'll just there's agirl that liked me up there and
she was flying me up there a lotof time.

(31:28):
And so I just, I stole my ring back that night, so.
Man, he stole your ring, man. That's dirty, man.
Oh, man, yeah, it was these kids, or some of them.
And I'm not really sure she did because she actually, me and him
got along well. And I'm not sure that it wasn't
just because he, one of his boyswas, I can't remember their

(31:48):
names now, but I, I didn't, you know, he was really a crook.
Got you real? Sure.
Yeah, they had actually did it, but I think Junior did, man, I
know Junior did because I got, Isold it back.
Somebody had it right. Oh man.
This question actually it comes from back when I was in the back

(32:09):
in the early 90s when the tape trading was real big and I I got
a tape one day from a place and Pensacola FL 1986 never heard of
this promotion for my life. It's called All Star Wrestling
and I put it in and I was watching it and there was you
with a video of The Dirty white boy on there is give me a little

(32:33):
rundown on that the promotion because I know eventually RIP
Tyler come in and and took over the town and and made the WOW,
but give me a little informationon that All Star wrestling.
You know, it was pretty much thesame guy's Flash Monroe, what's
his name? Gene.
Gene Dundee. Yeah, those guys, those guys

(32:56):
were running down there and Bob Kelly and gosh, there's there's
a couple of those guys like the old timers.
I forgot their names now I can'tbelieve it, but they were
running and was Austin Idol on one of any of those?
Now, he wasn't on those. The one the couple shows I got
on the tape, it was you, Pat Rose, Mike Boyett, Terry Latham,

(33:22):
Porkchop, Cash, Yeah, and the Superstars, which then they took
the mask off and they were the Monroes.
The Monroes. Yeah.
The young Monroes. Yeah, yeah.
And so that flash, Flash did that.
Gene Dundee, he helped do that. And they bleached their hair on
the streak in the front. But but actually that was the

(33:43):
WOW, I don't know how transaction, but it was the same
group and me and Pat was going down there and we were teaming
sometime and then I was working with Pork Chop cash sometime and
and it was just Pensacola. It was kind of a it was draw.
It was about the only town that was really drawing much.
Some of the spot shows grew justbecause they didn't have

(34:05):
anything to do in those in thosedays, people would come and and
television was probably not thatgood.
I don't, I've seen a few of themthat I didn't think it was that
great, my boy yet, man, I'll never forget.
He walked out one night. He'd bring the dog with him to
the matches and he he said he lost his dog and he was like, I

(34:25):
don't know. I don't know if he's on heroin
or what he was on, but he was messed up bad.
And last time we saw him, he waswalking down the Interstate like
calling his dog. But I mean, it was just crazy
times, you know. But but yeah, they were RIP
Tyler came in and and was was run booking and Bob Sweethan
came in and so it it changed a little.

(34:47):
I didn't stay a long time. We would go in and do two or
three nights and then come home.And you know, we never it was
never a full time territory, butit was it was certainly one that
they actually ended up with a lot of people.
Bob Holly was there. He was just starting out and
Percy Pringles cousin Marcel, Bill Moody's cousin Marcel

(35:07):
Pringle was there and and then one time Don Fargo even had Pat
and Marcel bleached their hair. I think it wasn't coming into
the Fargo's. Actually that was the second.
The first one was Pat and Ken Timms.
They were they brought them in. Ken went back to Georgia and

(35:29):
Marcel took Ken Timms place. They were the fabulous part.
There was 2 versions down there.Actually had eventually got the
whole, almost the whole run of that WWW through tape trading
after I found the All Star. Yeah, I started getting into it
and then I started, yes, the same guy got the All Star from I
got certain no WWW and I just got hooked on it.

(35:52):
I loved it. One of my favorite angles
actually was with Marcel Pringle.
He did it. They they did the old tin can
belt thing where they took the plates off the belt and he took
the tin cans and smushed them and put them on there because he
stole the belt and they made the, you know, Commissioner may
give it back. So when they took it out of the
bag and had all the plates were gone, they had tin cans.

(36:14):
That's awesome. I love that.
Yeah, Marcel was funny anyway, and I saw him a few years ago at
the mobile right before they quit, quit the mobile wrestler
unions and and man, he was stillfunny.
I always liked Marcel and he wasa good worker, really.
Yes, he was you know, and all those guys real, They most of

(36:35):
the guys were they were a few that weren't, you know, but ever
most of the guys I remember werewere good and at one point Pat
and like I said, he was a Fargo and then he was Pat Rose and.
Pat. Horse and Oh yeah, Pat and I
was, I was at Channel 12 and thefirst first day he walked in to

(36:56):
wrestle, Ken Hawke brought him there to to wrestle and I was I
made him that first day he wrestled and we've been friends
for years. Is Pat Rose set to hook Pat
Rose? Pat Rose, he called.
He'll call me up by your supply.Love, Pat.

(37:16):
The first question, how's your Mama?
But but he's a good boy, but we that's goal was a lots of fun.
I'll tell you, it was tons of fun.
I learned a lot from guys like, you know, Sweet Hands.
I mean, Sweet Hand was one of those guys that was very low on
the list of people with morals, but you know, some of those guys

(37:40):
were just nuts. And RIP Tyler, I love to get
finishes from RIP Tyler. He would give you a finish and
he would just lay it out, man. And he would just lay it.
He'd he'd have everything thought thawed out all the way.
He wouldn't choreograph a match,but he just and he got so into
his finishes laying them out there.
And he would always like if my finish at one time was like a

(38:02):
clothesline, like superstar ability used to where I'd throw
my legs out in front of me and hook the guy, you know, and
bring him down. And he he called your finish
your Jill flirt. I don't know where that come
from, but he's like when you getready this he said you hitting
with your Jill flirt. And I first time he said that I
thought, what in the world is a Jill flirt?

(38:22):
And then I learned that that's just what he called everybody's
finish. It didn't matter what it was a
sleeper with a Jill flirt, you know, and but it was just fun
and I learned a lot from those guys because at Fort job Cash
was so smart. He knew how he's so over with a
crowd and I was The Dirty white boy.

(38:43):
So in those days, you know, thatwas that was the way to go.
You know, you nowadays, you know, I could they wouldn't
amuse me now. I mean I'd be politically it
wouldn't be politically correct and Tony wouldn't have a job.
You know he Pony approved that when he went to New York, he had
to be a. Plumber or something, it's
horrible. Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, but back then it was, you know, you race stuff

(39:07):
you used. I mean, that's, I mean, it
wasn't we were racist. I love pork chop cash, but I did
some dastardly things to him that were really racist, you
know? Right, Right.
And you know, he bust a watermelon over his head and
tie, you know, tie a rib rib around his neck.
And you know what, you know, I mean just crazy, awful stuff,
you know, But and they people want to kill me.

(39:29):
Yeah, yeah, I bet. I mean, I've, I've said some, I
said a bad word on the microphone about and it's Pat
Rose's fault. He he he dared me.
So 4 top had this, he had this duking music I got he did back
then was just there me and I'd do it.
So I grabbed the mic and said something about his music and
and I got suspended from Pensacola and really suspended.

(39:53):
Not a work. And so they when I came finally
they let me come back after a few weeks and I just went out
there and when the bell rang, before the bell rang, Fort Chalk
jumped me. He beat me.
I got color for him. I bled all over the building.
I never threw a punch. He threw him in the ring, pinned
ME123 right in the middle of thering and got and killed.
And then of course the next weekon Tvi come back out and got my

(40:15):
heat back, you know? But I had to, to get, to be able
to get my to come back to work there because they, the, the
local, the locals were pretty upset about it.
You know, not I'm in the authorities, not the fans.
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Are you a pro wrestling fan?
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(40:36):
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(40:58):
Around May of 87, this is I've always wanted to know this too,
because you know, you hear stuffthrough the years stories.
They get all messed up in 87. You and your brother went to
work for Fuller Continental. OK, and the whole the story I've
heard for years that's been around going that actually y'all

(41:18):
that y'all wasn't booked at first.
It was the mod squad, the Jeffers brothers, and they
didn't take the job, but they'vealready put publicity and the T
did the stuff for the TV. So they brought you in as the
mad, the mad squad. Is that true?
That is correct. They went, I believe they went
to work for Crockett and Ronnie West and I were real or good

(41:43):
friends by then, but and Ronnie was helping them book.
And so he called me one day and he said, Jimmy, have you got a
partner? And I said, well, not, not at
the moment. And he said, well, listen, man,
we're kind of in a bind. He said I had the those, the
mats, the mat of the Mod Squad book down here and they're going
to work for Crockett and we needA tag team.

(42:04):
And he said we've got all the posters out for Mod Squad.
And he said, and I said, look, I'm not coming in there.
It's somebody else's name, Ronnie.
I said, because I've already been through that, you know,
with The Dirty white boy stuff. And I said, I'm not doing that.
And he said, well, what do you think?
He said, we got to get man, we got to get close.
He said, we don't want to fault,you know, all these outlaw shows

(42:27):
down here is advertising people that's not there and all that
stuff. And I said, well, well, mod
squad, mod squad. I said, what about Mad Squad?
And he said, Mad squad, Oh, we can just say it's a typo on the
poster. And I said, yeah, he says, OK,
now who's your partner going to be?
And I said, well, my brother just got out of high school and

(42:49):
he had never, I mean, he'd just been in the ring with us, but he
was, he'd been to state two or three years in a row in high
school rattling. And I said, he says, I said he's
the shooter, he can work. But I said he can work a little
bit. I said he's never been anywhere.
And he said it don't matter if you if you vouch for him, he
said it'll be all right. He said I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll

(43:11):
call you right back. So he called me back in about 15
minutes. He said, all right, says you
guys start in Birmingham TB and it's you and your brother.
You are the mad squad. So I called my brother and I
said, listen, I said we're goingto God now.
And he said, what? And I said, yeah, we're going to
Continental. I said Ronnie W hired, just

(43:32):
hired us as the Mad Squad. And I said me and you, and we're
going to work with Danny and Ken, you know, the nightmares.
And he said and that's, I can't believe this.
And I said, well, believe it. I mean, I had carried into
Pensacola a couple of times, hitwrestle under Masses Rock'n'roll
kid, you know, while he's still in school and things like that,
you know, but he'd never been anywhere, you know, like to work
full time or nothing. So we started and we work and

(43:55):
actually the whole deal with me and Berger and Kenny and the
nightmares Danny and Ken were that, you know, we were just
going, we were going to work an angle.
And then he told me, Ronnie toldme, he says there's A tag team
tournament coming up for a car and says Ken, Danny has just
bought a new car and so hey, they're going to win it.
But we're going to do angle withyou guys, you know, where y'all

(44:16):
the lights and the windshield, things like that.
I said OK, so anyway, we ended up working for a few weeks and
I, I would it was hilarious because the first time we did
interviews I did all the talkingand Gordon solely said can't
your partner talk? And I said well he never has.
And he looked at me real funny and I said he never has.

(44:37):
And so he told my brother. He said, let me tell you
something, Burger, He said you go back to your motel tonight or
apartment and he said you get your hair brush and you stand in
front of the mirror and you takea watch with a second hand and
get you about 10 or 15 seconds worth of stuff you can say
comfortably, He said, because your brother can have the rest

(44:58):
of it you. Know.
Burger never was a big Hawker anyway, but he actually, he did
that and that's what we do. But but Ron, Ron, you know, his
his business normally like Bob Armstrong would book some months
of the year and then Robert would book some Ron when I never
met Ron the whole time I was there, he was never at a show.

(45:20):
So yeah, Ronnie W was kind of booked, was taking care of
things. Well, Robert, it was his time to
come back in and they were baby faces.
Him and Jimmy were Jimmy Golden and so and so me and Ken, you
know, or me the mad squad and the nightmares were really it
was starting to it's starting tochime, you know, and Danny he

(45:42):
came back to dressing room and he told me He said, man, I'm
going to tell you Word is that y'all are not going to bust the
windshield out of my car. Word is that Robert and Jimmy
are going to turn the hill and they're going to do it and he
said I believe they're going to finish y'all up and I said, are
you kidding me? He said no, and I'm sorry
because I mean Burger and and Kenny had been going 45 minute

(46:04):
Broadway's. I mean they were rattling, you
know, and it no, and I've never was a good wrestler.
I was a show, but burger could rifle and and but and they did.
That's what happened. Robert came in, they turned Hill
and you know, Robert and Jimmy the week before they turned
hill, they ended up booking themtheir self against Robert,

(46:26):
booked their self against us andthe towns and beat us.
And then the next week they turna deal, you know, and.
That's awesome. That was the that was.
The I Rock Camaro tournament. That's right.
Yeah, that's right, man. Look at you go, Quentin.
I love that. Why don't you take the next one?

(46:48):
Yeah. I got to, I was looking through
some stuff and back when you were just starting with Gulas,
they I guess it would have been all Japan office sent over
Tenrou to the United States and he worked a little while for
Gulas. Was you ever on any of the shows
with Tenrou? Did they call him 10 Roo?

(47:11):
Yeah, actually they did. It was actually called 10 Roo.
I looked up all the one the things I looked at, they
actually they actually, well, according to the all the stuff I
saw on the Internet, which I mean, that could that might not
be true, but that's they all didsay, yeah, it's true.
Yeah, I don't remember wrestling, but I know who 10

(47:32):
rule is and I I think it may be in Georgia.
One time I was on a card with him, but I don't remember ever
been in with on the card with Nick.
The only ones were Oshiro and Pogo.
Oshiro was a extremely nice man,Japanese man and Togo was a nice
guy. I think he would have been a

(47:53):
sumu wrestler and lost some likeand but and but Tojo brought him
in and Tojo, I love Tojo but he was bad and sometimes he would
he wouldn't. He wasn't as good to the
Japanese guys as he should have been.
You would think he would be, but.
I know, I know you really would,but he wasn't sometimes.
But I really I I would have doneanything.

(48:14):
I love Tojo to death and he helped me a lot.
But but that's the truth, you know, and I don't remember Tin
Rue being working for Nick. I really don't remember him ever
working for Nick. So I don't know, you know, OK
it. Probably, you know, the more I
think about it, you said it, it probably wasn't really the the
Tin Rue working for Nick. That's probably you know.

(48:35):
Who knows, right? Yeah, well, he's been known, you
know. Well, I was, I was superstar
Billy Graham one night. Well, actually they had him
advertised and Chattanooga, I'llnever forget, You know, it's
like a August and they, Ronnie Gossett said, we regret to
inform you that superstar Billy Graham has been snowed in at an
airport somewhere out West. And.

(48:56):
But we've got a great replacement and they right here,
I come out and everybody booed me out of the building.
You know, that would be embarrassing.
Nick. Nick was known and he would he
would advertise Fargo or he would gossip would say Nick
Gillis is already working to book the fabulous Jackie Fargo

(49:17):
next week. He wouldn't say he was booked,
just was working to. Working on it.
Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.
I love those terms. Yeah, yeah, he do that a lot and
and gossip was great at talking anyway, so he could make any,
make you bleed anything. And that's why they always have
on the signs and posters card subject to change, right?

(49:37):
I mean, come. On yeah, and then my name was
usually at the bottom. Posters too, it said.
Plus one other match a lot of times.
So I like that. I like that.
Yeah. Well, at least you were on
there, man. That's all that matters.
So. Hey everybody, Eugene Jackson
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(49:59):
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(51:27):
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