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This is Rick McCord and we want everyone to give me back my pro
wrestling. It was great and I miss it.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome toGive Me Back My Pro wrestling.
(00:43):
Hello, Sir. Don't know.
Now you know. Baby, this is Hot Rod Bigs,
Jared, Jimmy St. We're going to take them to the
limit One more time, baby. Right here.
Oh, give me back my pro wrestling.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome one more time to the Give Me
Back my Pro Wrestling podcast. And here I am, as always, with
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my brother from the same father and mother.
The Plastic sheet. Jared St.
What's up, Judd? How you doing?
I'm good brother, how about yourself?
I am good, man. Just, you know, doing this thing
as I always am, you know, podcast, podcast, podcast, but
everything's good. Just knock them out constantly.
You and Wolf have been doing some good ones lately.
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Yeah, yeah, we've had some good interviews.
We just we just did our top ten.Oh my God moments.
That was kind of fun. And then we interviewed Boris
Zhukov, the rushes. Yeah.
And then we just interviewed BobCook today and Bob's been a long
time underneath guy for the, youknow, WCW Championship wrestling
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from Florida. He he had a cool run.
So good interviews, very happy with all of them.
So I'm excited for those to comeout and but I'm most excited
about this one today, man, we got Rick McCord and I'm stoked.
Yeah, man, it should be a great one.
I'm I'm really excited that picture you sent me the other
day with Steamboat Piper flair and him all in kind of one like
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hanging back watching the matches go on or something like
that. Man, that was that's a trip.
Oh, Jay Youngblood is on it too.Sorry.
Yeah, it kind of lets you know where he is coming from, where
he's worked. I mean, it's a cool photo.
And, you know, it's like, who are all these guys in this
photo? And then you kind of figure it
out and yeah, there's some legendary dudes in there and
then Rick standing right there with them.
So it kind of lets you know where, where he was and where
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he's, you know, what he's all about, you know?
Yeah, where he's being, yeah. Absolutely.
Well, I'm very excited to get him on, but of course, I want to
do a little company business here.
First off, we got to thank TommyAngel.
He's climbing the charts quickly.
You know, got some great responses from all the people
that listen to that episode. He's going to be I think he's
going to be concerning Gators number one spot in a little bit
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for sure doing some great numbers with that one.
Thank you all so much. If you haven't for some reason
listen to that episode and you're listening to this one,
definitely go back and listen tothat one.
It was a lot of fun and man, he's just really put us over to
as far as everything and he really enjoyed his time on here.
So hopefully that means more people.
I think hopefully David Isley will be coming soon.
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I'm excited about that. And we've got a lot of other
people lined up that, like I said, it's just humbling and
excited at the same time, you know?
Yeah, absolutely, man. It's a it's good that good that
us being from this little neck of the woods can can get to get
to anybody that has been anywhere to do to talk to us,
man. It's, you know, we're, we've
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been lifelong fans, but sometimes that doesn't mean
anything so. Right, definitely a blessing.
You know, we've we're just some small town kids that get a
chance to talk some pro wrestlers and and having fun
with it. You know, one of the things we
just did and I got to thank you for this sheet.
We just went to Johnson City, TNon November 11th.
It was a Saturday and we watchedus some wrestling, some WWE
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super show and man, I had a goodtime.
What about you? Yeah, man, I did.
The kids had a good time too, you know.
Yeah, that was the most important part.
You know. Yeah, they, they loved it.
You know, it was, you know, we had good seats.
We were right there at the ring.I felt like we could see
everything good. And yeah, made a little bit of
scrunched up, but luckily I could put little chic on my lap
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a little bit. He could.
Yeah, and Paisley was sitting beside me and gave me half her
seat too. So I hope that, you know, I know
Chic's a fan, but I hope Paisleycame out a fan too, you know?
So I. Think I think you'd probably
increased her fandom of it a little bit.
I don't know. Yeah.
She's all time playing with little Chic.
When he he wants her to play, he's like come on and play
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wrestlers with me. So she gets forced into it
sometimes. So.
Yeah, so I'm sure she's doing good at that.
But yeah, they seem to have had fun.
And it was cool seeing it through their eyes, you know
what I mean? And I don't think little chic.
I mean, I bet his cheeks were hurting after that because he
didn't stop smiling the whole time, you know?
So there was a time when Becky Lynch came out and, you know, it
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was as in, hey, Pax, let's go over there.
And I tried. And he was like, no, he was so
shy. Yeah.
That was like our one opportunity to get any closer
like that. But we have to.
We might have to get in those seats next time where he doesn't
have to work for it. He just had to.
Yeah, yeah. Those superstar experiences,
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people were sitting right besideus.
So that kind of tells everybody what kind of seats we had.
But three rows back and four seats over from the from the
entryway. So it was very cool, man.
Yeah. Had a lot of joy that though I
had a good time with you and thekids and yeah, absolutely what
to what to try to do it again sometimes.
Yeah, man. Well, you know, I'd like to.
I told everybody I'd like to seesome old wrestling, but
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unfortunately we we have that anymore.
So we have to watch what what's given to us.
So there's there's definitely a lot of fun and I think they had
a great experience. And I tell you, man, I remember
some about the wrestling, but I didn't remember how, you know,
intimate the Freedom Hall was, you know what I mean?
So yeah, to me it's it's like wereally got the chance to.
I don't think there's a bad seatin that house, you know, so.
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Yeah, no, I think you could haveseen it pretty good from
anywhere in there. I could be maybe some side
angles you couldn't see it as good from, but right the most of
the angles I think you'd see it pretty good from so.
Yeah, we saw people like, you know, Cody Rhodes, The Miz, LA
Knight, Becky Lynch, of course, Seth Rollins, Drew McIntyre.
I thought Owens, Kevin Owens, Sam Jose, both Usos.
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Yeah, it was. I mean, again, I don't follow it
that closely, but it's it was just a lot of fun just to see
that. And again, you know, I was
asking pax and I was like, who are we yelling for in this
match, you know? And yeah, you know.
We saw. We saw the longest reigning
Intercontinental champion now so.
In Guenta, yeah. And we got to see little nature.
I popped about that. Yeah, we were probably more
popped about that. Exactly.
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Yeah, there's chops. Sounded like they hurt though.
Yeah, there was no way you couldn't hear that in the.
I bet they heard that in King Sport, you know?
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, that was a lot of fun.
I appreciate you, you know, bringing me there and watching
that. That was a lot of fun.
It was a very fun experience. Got a got to spend some time and
and watch some wrestling, you know?
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I'm glad you, we're glad you could make it because it was a
yeah, just a, you never know. It was like kind of a, you know,
had a couple weeks notice to you, but it tells sometimes.
Spur of the moment, but hey, it was worth it.
Absolutely. But yeah, man, you know, I guess
with all that being said there, I think we should go ahead and
get our guest on the show. What do you think?
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Yeah, man, let's get him on here.
All right, we'll be right back with Rick McCord after these
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All right, we are back with our very special guest today.
And honestly, Jared, I just onceagain, we're getting some great
guests man. And and I want to go ahead and
introduce him right now. He is the legendary Rick McCord.
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Rick, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Thank you for the invitation. I'm I'm enjoying it.
Awesome, awesome. Great to have you, man.
Yeah, we'll, we'll have some fun.
I tell you, all we like to do isjust tell good stories and, and
talk about your your days in thewrestling business.
So this will be a lot of fun. Yeah.
One thing you know, we always start a show with is the plastic
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sheet. We always start with his
favorite question chic. Take it away all.
Right, Rick. So what this question is
designed to do is it's just going to tell the people who
like your influences and and wrestling who your favorites
were or anything like that or just somebody you just you just
all around liked. But like, if you had the top
four or top five favorite peoplein the rest of business of Mount
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Rushmore, so to say, wrestling, who would that be?
Well for one main one would be Randy Savage.
I learned so much from him and from Lanny his brother.
It was I was part of the beginning of ICW and also was
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voted the rookie of the Year. So that great honor that I
appreciated. And then of course, just there's
a bunch of Walter McDaniel. I got to tag with him one time
and that was my major honor. Yeah, it's awesome.
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My dream was to wrestle from Mid-Atlantic, but I went to
several places, other territories, and gained all the
experience that I could so I would look much better in front
of the home crowd. So that's what I did.
And then with Mid-Atlantic, I'vegot to wrestle my home Civic
Center in the Greensburg Coliseum, where I always like to
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go. And so then I've made major
friends from just that era alone.
Actually, after I retired, I gotinto the transportation business
and I now have a limo service here in Roanoke.
And I got to surprise Ricky Steamboat.
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I saw his name come up on the schedule for a trip to the
airport. And so he comes walking out from
the lobby and sees me standing there by the car.
And he was, he was shocked, but I always had the the most
respect for him. He was, he's one of the nicest
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people that's in the whole business, I would say.
And, you know, and I just, it's been different ones like that.
I spent a lot of time in the Central States and Bob Geigel
was a great promoter to work forthat, you know, so I, I had the
opportunity to meet and work with and even tag with some of
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the the best in the business. You know, it was a great ride.
Great list, man. It's it's you know, Ricky
Steamboat. Ricky Steamboat is somebody that
I think people like remember himwhen they talk about Randy
Savage in the match of WrestleMania 3 or they remember
him with the with the flare matches he had.
But man, he was he was a worker and a half man.
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I mean, that's. Yes, I tried to do his arm drag,
but but he he had a perfection of what it was a little bit hard
to do. Hey, we don't blame you for not
being able to do that when it's okay.
That's incredible. You know, there's a famous photo
of you and it's got Steamboat Youngblood.
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I think it's Barry Horowitz, Roddy Piper and Rick Flair in
the photo, and that's like the Mount Rushmore right there, you
know? So that's a pretty crazy
picture. Do you remember taking that
photo? I guess it was taken of you I
would assume. I do, or there.
I think it's the one that I've seen come up several times.
It was at a high school gym and we were standing along the wall
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just waiting for watching the matches and waiting for our turn
to come up. Yeah, Yeah.
I think that's the picture that I've seen it several times.
Yeah, it's a great photo. And I, was it Barry Horwitz or
Brad at Armstrong? I can never tell.
I'm. I'm always.
Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought, yeah, that's it.
Yeah. Anyway, incredible picture.
And it's just like, you know, and one thing Rick is funny is I
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didn't realize Piper was as tallas he was because, you know, you
had all the guys that are prettymuch the same height, you know,
and Rick sitting down. But, you know, it was funny
because Piper just looked crazily tall there.
It was like, you know, but I mean, Barry Horowitz was pretty
tall guy, too. I thought so, anyway, Yeah.
Just a little bit taller than me.
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Gotcha. OK, OK.
Yeah. Well, anyway, it's just crazy to
think that you've got all that encompassed in one photo and
you're standing right there withthem.
So thank you for being our guesttoday on the show.
This is awesome. Very on for the invitation.
Yes, Sir. Well, Rick, we, you know, we
talked about other guys now, butI want to talk about Rick McCord
now. So Rick, my very first question
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of every show is this is let's talk about your younger days.
Your where'd you go to high school?
Where were you born? What sports did you play?
OK, well I was born in Salem, VAand after all the wrestling and
everything, that's where I settled back.
Yet I'm actually, I actually live in the house I grew up in.
So I toured the country and thencome back.
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But anyway, I I met a guy named Mike Weddle who wrestled as
Eclipso and he had a ring in hisbackyard up in Salem and met him
at the matches, Starland Arena. That was where the first match I
ever went to was. And so he had he had built this
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ring with railroad ties planted in the ground.
So it was a solid different. Yes.
Sir. And, you know, and we, we know
every Saturday we started doing matches, you know, through the
week with the way, you know, we're watching and, and to work
on moves and then we'd have matches and, and then we started
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running some spy shows of somebody that had a portable
ring. Yeah.
And after doing that a little while, I said I want to do this
for real. And I went to Jay Youngblood
told me because I used to talk to him at the matches, but long
before I ever worked for Crackhead.
And he told me Tennessee was thebest place to get your break.
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And so that's what I did. I went out there and and I did
to try out match on TV and and they told me to come back.
Yeah. So that's when it started.
That was 178. Wow.
So that was, I don't want to make you sound, but that was
actually the year I was born. Rick, that's wild.
Yeah. So no disrespect, please.
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So did you train with Mike? Was Mike ahead of you in the
business or did y'all learn together or how did that work?
We worked at, we go to the matches on Saturday night and
then Sunday we'd come back and we would get out in the ring and
we would have our own matches. And we actually even started
drawing a crowd on a Sunday, youknow, you know, I just said I
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want to do it for real and try to make a living at it.
And, and he, he was a little behind.
I mean, he, he never really toured.
He, he went some places in therebecause we didn't keep in tight
contact, but but he never reallyactually got into the business.
That's all he did. I mean, I I went to where I was
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doing seven days a week and all over the place.
You were, you were, and I can't wait to talk about all of it.
But to go back to clip a little bit here, Clip actually trained
my mentor and trainer and the guy that got me in the business,
Kenny Steele and Kenny Pack and Kenny just passed away a couple
years back, unfortunately. But anyway, I know that Clip and
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him had kind of fallen out and then got back together and
fallen out and then there, you know, it's kind of kind of like,
you know, it's kind of like I think they had a deep kinship
for one another. But I feel like also, you know,
it's like a rebellious child, you know what I mean?
And I think Kenny wanted to strike out on his own.
And I don't know, you know, everybody wants to be their own
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promoter until it's time to be the promoter, you know what I
mean? So it is a hard job.
Yeah. Anyway, so.
So I guess technically you learned with yourself and and
such as that. So go ahead, Jared, ask the.
So you talked about like having like a, you know, kind of like a
tryout match, but what would youconsider your, like first
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official match and like, was it for like a, what promotion or
whatever would it be for? It was for Nick Gorlis in
Nashville and, and and I had being in the like the minor
league when I'd go to the matches at Starland or to the
Greensboro Coliseum. I made friends with Jay
Youngblood and and different ones like that, and they used to
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coach, coach me and tell me, youknow, what I needed to do and
then the best place to go for a tryout to actually get in.
And that's why I went to Nashville because that's what
Jay had told me. So, you know, so they, they,
they, you know, they didn't try to take a paper around me.
They just, they were open and and grave And it was, it was
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several of them that Jay Young brother was one of the mainland
that I'll talk to every time I went to the matches.
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, you know what a loss that
guy was, right? He could have been one of the
all time greats and just a tragic loss there.
So, so N.W.A Mid America for theGhoulis family or Nick Ghoulis.
As I say, you know, this is going to kind of lead us into
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our very first section of the name game.
But a lot of our listener base is from Nashville.
That's kind of our bread and butter people, you know.
So when it comes down to it, youknow, Nick Ghoulis is so
legendary there. Talk about Nick himself.
I would love to hear some stories.
He he was very interesting and Ialways have repeated or even
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told someone a few weeks ago about the the conversation Nick
I had when when I was working there, they let me work in the
office and run errands for him. And you know, that that was
ideal for me because I'm right in the middle of, you know, some
of the best to, you know, listento and, and learn from.
And so one time, you know, Nick was always had the reputation of
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not paying good. You know, some promoters had
that. But anyway, he, you know, I said
something about a raise and he'sa raise.
He says it's not what you make, it's what you save.
And I said, but Nick, how can I save anything if I'm not making
any money? And everybody in the room just
cracked up. That's incredible.
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It's so true, though. It's like you save a dollar if
you're only making a dollar, youknow?
So it's like, wow, yeah. But my education was the was the
value in being there. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly. Being in the office, I got to
see a lot of the behind the scenes, you know that, you know,
getting guys in there and, you know, promoting different
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things. So you know, it was a plus.
Yeah, that's awesome. Promotional consideration paid
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podcasts. All right, well, you know, like
I said, we normally do the name game during the ending part of
our show, but with you, we feel like it would be better if we
kind of do it as we go. So what we're going to do right
now is we're going to start the very first portion of the show
with the name game. So Rick McCord, would you like
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to play the name game? Sure.
All right, DJ, hit the music. All right, we are back with Rick
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McCord and the name game. And Rick, the very first name.
We've already talked about Nick.We got to talk about George.
I saw George a couple of weeks ago and in Columbia, TN.
I went to a reunion there and these he's working in the I
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think it's like the the securityof, you know, like the jail or
prison or something. But he he was always interesting
to listen to and, and he was still full of stories.
And yeah, he was during the the era of him, you know, wrestling,
you know, a lot of people thought he was a promoter son
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and got everything. But George is a good guy.
You know, we, we got along, never had any.
Yeah, and I, you know, that's the that's the tough part about
being the promoter's son is evenif you're a good wrestler,
people are going to look like that, that it's given to you,
You know what I mean? And yeah, but well, so we're
trying to also get George on a show.
So maybe, Rick, after you have agood time with us, just let
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George know that we don't buy it.
OK. So.
Well, the next name, Jared, takehim away.
This is former guest of the showArvo Hutto.
Arvo Hutto. He was at the Diamond Reunion
and I just went through and he, he's even the one I keep in
touch with, you know, when I confirmed that I would be there.
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He's a great guy. He's you know, he, I worked with
him a couple of times. Most of the time, you know, he
was in A tag match in the main events some of the times and you
know, but always great to talk through.
He's have a lot of respect for him.
Yeah, Arville's a great. Yeah, We're big fans of Dante
and Mephisto, and yeah, we like Arville quite a bit.
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He's too modest. Yeah, he's too modest.
Yeah. He won't own up to doing
nothing. He's like, well, I just wish I
did more, you know? And it's like, you did some
pretty great stuff, brother. It's OK, you know.
I drove that trip and then I went to the lumber convention in
Orlando. So it was like 3300 miles for
the whole trip. I didn't want to miss the the
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reunion in Columbia because, youknow, that's, that's my start.
That's the first people I knew. Yeah, Yeah.
And God forbid you never, never know with with as we grow older.
And again, I know you're a spring chicken, Rick, but some
of the guys, you never know if you're going to see them next
time. So it's it's you want to make it
when you can, you know. So Speaking of somebody that I
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wish I could see tomorrow, this one would be beautiful.
Bobby Eaton. Bobby was was one of the nicest
people and it was hard for him to to be a heel.
That's I mean, he was so nice. He would, you know, I don't want
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to, I'm not one on the the expose side, but but he'd give
you a clothesline and as you were going down, he said he
would say you OK, You OK? You know it.
It wouldn't hurt anybody for anything and just super, super
nice guy. Yeah, Bobby was great for sure.
How? About Terry Gordy.
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I met Terry, think that was wellat that one.
I worked for Bill Watts and he was, he was a nice guy.
I didn't get to talk to him a whole lot because he was kind of
in his clique. I worked a couple of matches
with him and Michael Hayes. Gotcha.
OK. That was cool.
Yeah, so I was doing my researchon you and I was looking up your
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match history and it actually showed this big match that you
worked in at for the Goulis's and it was all these great names
in it. And Terry popped up.
So maybe we skipped ahead too much there, but I'm not sure if
if he was actually in that matchor not.
So I apologize if we got him tooquickly there.
But the next one is, is the Nightmare Danny Davis.
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I was there when Danny was he was already main event and it
was him and Ken Wayne and Tennessee, you know, Tennessee
people are just automatically welcoming and that everyone that
I've met was like that, all the boys and you know, it was just
it was great and everybody wanted to help you and, you
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know, coaching a little bit if you needed it.
So it was it was a great it was a great way that I started in
the business and I I wasn't under the pressure of a, you
know, gigantic promotion that myinexperience would have come out
then. You know, I'm glad I got to
start in Tennessee and was the best place.
Yeah, that's awesome. That's very cool, Very cool.
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Great guys. You mentioned it before in your
about Randy Savage. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I have a lot of respect and everything to Randy because
he he gave me a good break. He had just the matches we had.
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It was in education every time and you know, it's unfortunate
that I got to work with him likeI did and they put the Rookie of
the Year title on me. So that helped me get a lot of
the main event matches with Randy out in the spot shows.
That's awesome. So, you know, and he was great
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to work with. All you had to do is, you know,
just he didn't like an arrogant person.
Yeah. And and he would, he would put
them in their place when he had to, and he could do it.
Yeah, yeah. No kidding.
Yeah. So.
So I got a follow up for you everybody.
I always like to ask everybody that kind of knew Randy like
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did. Was he always in that character,
like always in his like macho man character?
He was, he wasn't as loud vocal,you know, he had a softer voice
that you know, when he had talked to you, but you know, but
he would he would come into character just in a split of a
second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What intense gentleman. But also, yeah, he cared a lot
about the business, I think, andthat was one thing.
Yeah, yeah. So didn't like a cocky worker,
you know, he, you know, he like somebody that appreciated the
business and appreciated the word, you know, the boys working
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with them and everything. Yeah.
And if you were arrogant, he would put you in your place.
Yeah, yeah. Well they do it.
I believe it. I believe every bit of it now.
I believe you, you kind of wind up leaving mid America and you
actually you work with these twogentlemen and these two
gentlemen actually became quite famous a few years later after
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this for partially expose on thebusiness and also a slap to a
John Stossel and but Doctor Dee and Eddie Mansfield.
I think you worked in A tag match with them and I'm not sure
about the promotion, but do you remember working with them?
Yeah, I do. It was either right at the end
of working from the gorillas or when after I left ICW, I was up
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there for two years. Then I came back home, my
stepfather was sick and I grown out my mom for a little bit and
he passed away. And just as soon as that
happened, I got booked in Memphis.
And that's, I think that's wherewhere our paths crossed.
OK, gotcha. What did you think about that
whole deal? I mean, you do you.
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Do you feel like Doctor Dee did the right thing there or do you
think it was all a work or what do you think?
I don't really know what to say on that one.
It was, you know that I respected the business and that
when somebody is not respecting the business or the the the
other workers, you know, that's where you get your weak links.
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And but that's, there were some that, you know, they, it rose
them to stardom beyond wrestling, and I think that's
what they were trying for. Well, hey, Doctor DI, don't
think he pulled that punch out of that slap.
Let's just say that. So it looked like he connected a
couple times. And then I know Eddie.
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Eddie, we've had several guests on the show that have really put
over Eddie Mansfield. So again, I'm not trying to make
you say anything you don't want to say.
I'm just saying that some peopleseem to have liked Eddie and
some people didn't like him because he did that, you know,
so. Yeah, well, I like to meet, you
know, we, we had a good rapport back in the dressing room and
and, you know, worked with him acouple of times.
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So, you know, I got along with everybody, you know, and.
That's what I've heard. Yeah, that didn't dwell on any
imperfections because I wasn't perfect.
Understand, Hey, that's that's avery realistic way to look at
it. So, and I know that one thing,
and I'll always say this was Doctor D was the original Stone
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Cold too. So that's my opinion.
Yeah, he he seemed like he had the the Stone Cold Steve Austin
character before Steve Austin did.
But well, but anyway, let's talkmore about Rick McCord.
How about that? So when you go to ICW now ICW
for the Papos, to me, that's oneof my favorite after, you know,
learning more about the business, that's one of my
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favorite promotions to watch and, and one of the two reasons,
obviously for Randy Savage and the Papos.
But there are two other guys that I really enjoyed in ICW and
we'll we'll talk about just a second.
But leaving N.W.A Mid America and going to ICW for the Papos.
Was Randy your connection on that or Lanny?
I'm trying to remember it wasn'tor they were working for
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Nicholas while I was there and when they decided to started,
you know, they asked me if I wanted to come along with them
and you know, you in the business.
I was a little bit scared to, you know, if you became somebody
that would jump ship, you know, it wouldn't be a reputation to
have and but you know it none ofthat happened that way.
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You know, it was time for me to go and grow some more.
See some new towns and. Yeah.
And, and so they gave me the opportunity and moves to
elections in Kentucky where theywere based.
Gotcha. Yeah.
Did you live in all those apartments with all them?
Is that where you were staying? No, I I actually knew someone up
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there and she moved to Florida and she let me stay in her
house. Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah. There you go.
Yeah. Right off New Circle Rd.
Well, so my brother and I, we'refrom a small town in in
southwestern Virginia, Lebanon, and Virginia, and it turns out
ICW ran in Lebanon, VA quite a bit because of this.
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This guy right here Hoot Gibson.Do you have any good hoot
stories? Not that I can remember, just
super nice guy. And yeah, he was a hoot.
I love that we're actually trying to get him on the show.
I know he's not doing well. We've talked to Ronnie Garvin
before and he's actually was telling us that he had
(32:28):
Parkinson's and was not doing well.
So Hope Hoot's doing OK. And you know, even if we don't
get him on the show, hope he lives as long and as healthy as
he can. That's that's what we like.
So and he was our claim to fame in Lebanon.
You know what I mean? Everybody knew to hoot and
everybody knew he was a wrestlerand he, he protected the
business just as well as anybodycould.
So he was, you know. I think I remember him back when
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I was doing the beginning with Eclipso, you know, when he
started running a couple of couple of shows.
OK, gotcha. And I said, yeah, I remember way
back. Yeah, that's awesome.
That's very cool. That's very cool.
How about Doug Vons? Doug Vines, great worker we
were. He was my opponent for the
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Rookie of the year, ICW Rookie of the Year, and when it got
down to the voting, then I beat him for it and that set it up
for us. We had a running feud the whole
year and a great worker. Great.
I mean, he could get some heat and and he didn't.
He made me look good too. So yeah.
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I'm trying to get Doug on a show.
I know we're having a little bitof trouble tracking him down,
but if anybody out there listening has contact info for
Doug Vines, let me know. We'd love to have him on the
podcast. Too, so I haven't heard where he
might be. Yeah, I think he's up in
Somerset, but we we can't get a phone number on him, but we'll
figure it out. The next two on the list, I'm
going to put them together sincethey're father and son.
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We've talked about Randy, now we're going to talk about Lanny
and Angelo. Most of my beginning matches and
I see W was was with Angelo and you know, it was it was it was
kind of a routine match. So you knew what was, you know,
kind of what to expect out of itAnd and it was it was an
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education every time. And you know, I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed working with him and and Lanny.
We we tag team some quite a bit and I see W and he always had
the best stories to tell. He was an entertainer in the
dressing room, too. Talk about somebody that was a
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an athlete too. He was like a gymnast or
something, man, he. Oh yeah.
He was so just so smooth, but itwas almost like an unreal kind
of smooth. It was just crazy.
How? How you know?
He was very lumber so he could he could do flips and everything
and then come out just shocking you how he is Sony speed after a
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fall like that. Yeah, yeah.
It was crazy, Yeah. How about the hands of Stone?
Ronnie Garvin. Ronnie, he's great guy.
We we traveled a lot together and and we've actually connected
after all of us had retired. Every once in a while we'd
connect, but I haven't seen him for several years and I was even
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thinking about trying to get in touch with him.
But I I think he was one of the best money draws in the
wrestling business. Yeah.
He was. Great.
Yeah. And great.
Great to talk to. Rd. trips were fun.
He was. He was a lot of fun.
That's cool. All right.
The next one on the list is my buddy and one of the shooters,
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one of the true shooters and especially from that promotion,
ICW, he was definitely he can handle himself in the ring end
out is Mr. George Winegroff. I knew you didn't say that,
George. We traveled a lot together.
You know, the times you got to spend on the road, you got to
really know him. And he's just a great guy.
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And he would, he would watch thematches through his little
monocle and he had and he would,then he would coach, he would,
he would tell you, you know, what looked good and what looked
bad and, and all that, but just,you know, just a natural of the
business. Oh yeah, let me play you
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something really quick. So we had George on the podcast,
Wolfie D and I from PG13. We have a podcast called Live
and In Color. All the listeners already know
this, but I'm going to play you this recording.
After we had George Weingroff onthe show, this is what he called
me and said hi. Jamie George Weingroff.
I think Wolfie had left me a message about doing a show on
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Tuesday and that that'd be fine with me.
I was wondering if I talked to Ronnie Garvin and he'd he'd be
willing to come on there with me.
So I want to know if that would would work for you.
You guys would like that. All right, let me know.
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So that's George Wyongroff and he offered up Ronnie Garvin.
So he, he asked would it be OK for him to have Ronnie Garvin on
with us? And I couldn't answer him yes
quick enough, you know. So yeah, George was great.
And George is a friend and and Itell you what man, he he was one
of those guys that he I couldn'tbelieve that he went and
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wrestled Pancrase the the more shoot style wrestling in Japan
at 41 too, you know, so pretty crazy stuff if in my book, you
know, so. I learned a lot from him.
You know, he would watch all thematches and you know, he'd
critique you and hours, you know, in a good way.
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And yeah, great guy. Yeah, yeah, Great guy.
Well, OK, so you kind of end up wrapping up with the Papos and
you go to this promotion with what would be your home
essentially for the next year. You end up in CWA in Memphis.
So I guess we kind of know how you got from the Gulisses to the
Papos. How did you make it from the
Papos to Memphis? Well, when I came back home then
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when I I started making some phone calls and I don't remember
exactly who I talked to, but youknow, like when I got into
Mid-Atlantic, do I talk to Jay Youngblood and he talked to Dory
and he introduced us. But out there, they had already
seen my work from Nick Goulas and from from Papa's, you know,
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some of the shows that they did.And so, you know, when I was
available and I think they just needed some underneath talent
that they they said come on in. And so I had I had a good run
there. It was, it was, it was, it's a
gimmick territory. And you know, so that makes you
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start realizing that there's different characters to the
whole promotion, not just, you know, different wrestlers and
you know, so so that was a wholenew experience for me and long
trips. That's the only thing.
But it was that I enjoyed it. I wouldn't have traded for
nothing. And it became my go to promotion
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after I would go somewhere else for a few months or six months.
And and then I knew that I couldcall him and say I'm finished
down here. I went to Pensacola and when I
finished up there and I called and they said come on back.
We got a spot. Yeah, come on back anytime.
Yeah, Yeah. And you know, that's funny
because you did go from a very, I would say, you know, I mean,
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ICW was very what what would youcall it, the promotion?
They were very hungry. It seemed like they were, they
were very hungry to run and showthat they were the real deal.
And then you get to CWA where it's a little more, well, what's
the word? They're already set.
You know, they're, they're not trying to build the company.
They've got the company. So yeah, it probably went from a
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very work hard and press to another company where you work
hard and press, But it's a different vibe out there and.
I've I've heard dirty white boyssay this.
He's like, I went from the fullers and continental to I
went to CWA in Memphis. Where USWA in Memphis, buddy,
That's howdy doody time out there.
You know, it must understand what that means because you
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laughed. Yeah, but anyway, they they had
the characters and they had theyhad their way of telling stories
And and honestly, I I Memphis isone of my current favorites of
all time because I'm a Mid-Atlantic kid.
We grew up in the Mid-Atlantic area, but I've become an adoptee
of Memphis, you know. So anyway, Jared, start us off
with the first name of that. All right, talk to us about
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Tojo. Tojo, he was a character and,
you know, he was, I would say probably a Moody kind of person.
You didn't ever know how he was going to be to react.
And, and sometimes he would, youknow, you could make him smile.
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And sometimes there was no way you're going to make him smile,
you know. And and but, you know, you just
try to work a good match with him and then, you know, he's OK
with you. Yeah.
That's awesome. Yeah.
We've heard some great stories about Tojo before.
That's awesome too. Yeah, one on our list is the
original Midnight Express with Dennis Condry, Norvell Austin
(41:34):
and Randy Rose. Talk about them.
They were great to work with. It was where I was.
There was Bobby Eaton more with the Midnight Express when I was
more involved with them. But I did get to work with them
and a matter of fact, I think Louisiana for watch they they
were down there at the same timeI was and you know, so I had
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opportunity for different promoters to work with the same
people and you know, and different promoters have
different expectations. Yeah, of course.
So it's a different match. Even though it's the same guy,
it's a different match. I love that.
That that to me is the absolute art of the business to me is
just how how cool you can see one, you see the right.
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Let's just give you an example of the Rock'n'roll Express and
Midnight Express in Mid South, or if you see them in Crockett
or if you see them anywhere else, you know, it's just to,
it's just so I love that. And that's what I consider, like
I said, the art of the business,you know?
Yeah. Yeah, all right.
This guy's got a reputation for hard hitting Gypsy Joe.
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Oh, you're right. He was, he was a tough one to
work with. He, you know, he was solid and
you know, it's it could put you in your place too, especially a
green rookie. Yeah, you know, but but overall,
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it was, you know, that survived the matches.
So I felt like I did pretty good.
Yeah, exactly. That's that's always A+, right?
Yeah, yeah. And this, this next guy, he's
considered one of the best workers and one of the best baby
faces of all time, Ricky Morton.But he is I would agree with
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that. He he can fly around and and his
psychologist there, he had a good, a good advantage because
his dad, Paul Morton, was a referee and you know, so he he
grew up with the business. So it made him just be a natural
and you know, and and that's, it's what it's all about.
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Is he the best seller of all time, Rick?
I would say if not very close toit.
OK, who's who's better if you think if there's one up there
with him who was really good. I don't know.
I hadn't really thought about that.
OK, well, maybe if it. Comes up, there's some names at
me. What about Ricky Steamboat?
He was great, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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YouTube. So the next one, and I'm going
to say these two names together because I may be hoping it will
evoke a story. And this one is Coco Beware.
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And Steve Kern. Were you there the night that
they got into it? I don't remember that I knew.
I knew both of them well, but I don't remember that.
Gotcha. But there's a story that Coco
kind of gave him the business a little bit and worked him over
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pretty good. But I love Steve Kern.
I think Steve's one of my favorite people.
I got to meet him and do an interview with him and we've
done an interview with Coco Beware as well.
And both are great guys, but I've heard that Coco was not one
you wanted to mess with. Let's just say that so.
I saw him at a convention that long ago and you know, I said he
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was always a great guy to me. Gotcha.
Yeah, that's. Awesome.
And Steve Kern, he was, he was one I looked up to, especially
when I got a chance to work in Tampa and he was there.
So, you know, I'm still a fan. No matter.
You know, even through all of that, I was still a fan of
different ones. That's awesome.
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Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah.
Well, the next name on the list,I'm going to go ahead and say it
since, you know, we brought up one of the fabulous ones.
Let's bring up the other one, Stan Lane.
Stan was a super nice guy and I enjoyed talking to him in the
dressing room. I never worked with them, but,
you know, just we traveled together, you know, a lot of the
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road trips that that's where youreally get to your connection
of, of knowing each other. Yeah, you know so, but great
guy. Great guy, very cool all.
Right. How about Eric Embry?
Eric, same with him. He's a good old Tennessee boy
and, and I always, I mean, he, he when he hadn't seen him in
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years and he walks up, you know,he grabs you and hugs you and
you know, it's like you've neverbeen apart.
Just a good guy. Yeah, you just.
Yeah. Open the book at a new page,
right? It's no, no time has passed,
right. So the next one, the next one,
I'm going to do a little impersonation.
My name was Kamala. Tell me about working with
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Kamala. I had his debut match in
Memphis, the Mid South Coliseum,and, and it was, it was light as
a feather. I mean, you know, he looked like
he was knocking the you know what out of you.
And, and, but he was a great guy, you know, and it was, it
(47:34):
was an honour to have his baby match.
Yeah, 'cause they did that incredible lead in, and I mean,
it was just awesome how they didstuff with him, you know?
Yeah. And what a, what a original
character too, you know? Just yeah.
Yeah. Funny guy I've heard too, and he
could actually sing really well too, just like Coco, you know?
So. Yeah, I didn't didn't hear him
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sing, but yeah, he was a comic. Well, if you ever go on YouTube,
just look up him sing and you'llyou'll hear it if you ever need
to. Well, so 1982 you kind of end up
wrapping up the first time with Memphis and you actually work
one show for Mid South and then that leads you directly back
home basically for you to the Mid-Atlantic for the Crockett.
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So to me, you go down to Mid South.
Was that literally just a one time thing?
No promises for anything more. And then you got Mid-Atlantic.
Do you remember how that happened?
Well, I that when I went throughMid South, one of the times I
went, went there twice. I'm trying to remember exactly,
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but I went in and I was there for three months and I was
loving it, loving the territory.The money that I was making was
great and I asked Bill Watts, I said, I know you change your
underneath talent every three months, but is there any way
that I could get a three month extension?
He says, Nah, He says you can come back sometime.
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He said, but that's, that's stick to that.
And you know, but, but he was, he was great to work for and and
had a great time there. They got the rest on the
Superdome and yeah, that's that's a major honor.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, we'll get back to him.
I want to talk about the Mid-Atlantic now.
So, all right. So obviously you've worked.
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You're you're becoming a veterannow.
You're you've the green has changed color.
You're actually starting to understand the business a little
more now and you're working for your home territory.
And I would assume that's probably your favorite promotion
since it was what growing up. Would that be true?
There would be. The top 2 would be the
Mid-Atlantic and Central States.OK, Yeah, well, we'll get to
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Central States in a minute, but let's talk Mid-Atlantic.
I I can't wait to hear about Mid-Atlantic.
So. OK, before when I went to watch
and then before I came back home, my stepfather was was he
was sick with cancer. So I come back home to help out
a little bit and I was going to the matches and I bumped into
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Jay Youngblood and you know, so that we kind of got a connection
going there and so he was going to talk to Dory about me
starting there. Gotcha.
OK. And so that's how I got into mid
final. Very cool.
So how were the Crockettes? We always like to ask this
question because obviously we love Mid-Atlantic.
How were they working for them? It was, it was awesome, totally
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awesome. And, you know, and then I mean,
I was, I was the the most thrilled person who's ever
imagined because I was working for my dream territory and I got
to wrestle my home Civic Center and things like that.
I was wrestling with the people that I grew up with and, you
know, couldn't have been any better.
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Salem Civic Center. That's awesome.
Yeah. That's wild to think about.
You come home and you work in the in the home Civic Center.
That's so awesome. You know, I can't imagine, you
know, Lebanon didn't have a Civic Center.
But when it comes down onto it, getting to work in your
hometown, I would assume a lot of your people came out to see
you. Oh.
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Yeah, yeah. Family and friends.
Hey, this Rick McCord guys getting over guys.
We got to put him up the card a little bit.
Listen to that. I'm sure they had the story
though. So one of the first matches you
worked there was with one of my favorite guys and especially I'm
not sure if his manager was withhim at this time.
I know that this was kind of a big combo, but was the great
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Kabuki with and was Gary Hart with him at this point?
Yes, he was OK. Yeah.
And that was, that was very interesting, you know, but it
was a great match. I I loved it when it was
different. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah. So do you, do you have anything
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you could say about Gary at all?Did you know him at all very
well? Well-being in the other dressing
room, I didn't get to really knowing, but you know, just just
in the, the passing and you know, but he was, he was good to
work with and him being a manager and everything and, and
I said it was good. That was my guy.
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The the listeners are tired of hearing this.
But when I got in the business, that was the guy ripped off the
most probably. So it was just funny because
when he would say stuff like, let me tell you something, baby,
you know, I couldn't really get that across in the 2000s as well
as it sounded in the 80s, though, you know what I mean?
So yeah, he was, he had, he had the the rap that.
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Oh, he did. I mean, he got later.
Yeah, he was great. Yeah.
All right, how about Dory Funk Junior?
Dory was the Booker when Jay introduced me and, you know,
helped me get started with Mid-Atlantic.
So I, I got to work with Dory several times and great, great
to work with. You know, you got to imagine
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here you're wrestling someone that was a world champion that
you know, you're just there and you just ready to listen to
whatever they got to say and and, you know, just try to do
the best you can with with a great person.
Yeah, I got to meet Dory later on on a Mike Porter show and
wow, just he was still working then and just such a great guy.
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And so he had everybody listening to him.
You know, it was like funny because most people are usually
talking in the locker room, but everybody was hunkered around
Dory. And you know, the cool thing was
is they had him set up in a different room there at the
building, but he actually was inthere with us, talking to us.
It was incredible. So.
Dory was a great guy, for sure. I was lucky to be on that show.
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So the next one on the list. And he became much more famous
later when he worked with Vince and he had a reptile wrapped
around him. But at this point, he's getting
pretty good at this game of wrestling here.
Mr. Jake the Snake Roberts. Yeah.
When I talk about him, I tell people that I wrestled him at
the right era. It was before Damien.
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I don't know if I could have laid it there and had a snake
laid on me. No, I don't think I could
either, you know, But but hey, who knows, Maybe if you're in
the moment you could do it, but I don't know.
I'm I'm glad you said that too, Rick, because I don't think I
could. All right, how about Jean
Anderson? I watched Jean growing up and I
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always, I worked with him a few times and he was, you know,
just, he was solid, you know, and we, we had good matches.
All I had to do is listen. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I learned that early on too, you know, and that that
helped a lot because I'm, I'm learning.
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So, you know, I didn't try to bearrogant or aggressive with
myself and you know, it was. I was taking it all in.
Yeah, that's awesome. How about the One Man gang?
Hands of Stone. I've talked to Ronnie ever so
often and you know, we were together in in Tennessee and a
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little bit and then at Knoxvilleand then when Poplars had a CW,
he come up there. So we've kept in touch through
the years and he's become a great friend.
Yeah, now this is cool because, you know, there wasn't Crusher
Broomfield took over the One ManGang name.
But at this point, the One Man Gang was Ronnie Garvin.
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And that's why I wanted him to come up, you know, because so
many people think of Crusher Broomfield as the One Man gang.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
So that was cool. I'm glad you.
I wrestled Crusher on this debutmatch and I see there.
Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Yeah, so he was a good guy. How was he is a bit?
How was he is a big guy like. Yeah, you just have to develop,
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you know, you stay away from play cat and mouse, you know,
that's kind of where the matchesare.
And then once you got you, he's going to eat you alive all.
Right. How about the next one here,
Greg Valentine? I worked with him a few times in
Mid-Atlantic Crockett and he's when I pass him in the dressing
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room or whatever, he's always a nice guy and but he was solid
and very solid, but in a good way too.
Yeah, I mean he he had had this blood I guess from his dad and
everything so. Yeah.
How about Johnny Weaver? Johnny Weaver, before we got
into the actual business, he would talk to me and Eclipso and
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and you know, give us some pointers and everything.
And he was, as he was getting away from Mid-Atlantic and
retired, becoming retired and everything.
I think he did a few shows for Eclipso, but I had already
started my pursuit where I was heading.
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Yeah, but Johnny's a great guy. The Weaver.
Lock, Yeah. I didn't know it was the sleeper
hold. I always thought it was called
the Weaver lock. Yeah, I forgot about that.
What about one of the greatest brother tag teams of all time?
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And I don't mean the Andersons, I'm talking about the Briscoes.
I got to work with them on TD and I saw Jerry and Waterloo
back in the back in the summer. I go out there every year for
the convention and Jerry. Jerry had an issue.
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They had to take him to the hospital, but he was OK the next
day and come back to the convention, got to wrestle with
Jack and Jerry in a match on TV one time and it was a great
honor. That's awesome for Crockett.
Yeah, I've heard that Jack Briscoe had that tensile
strength in his hand where he could really put a hurting on
you. He was really strong and very,
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very unsuspectingly strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've never had to feel that, butyeah, yeah, you could just tell.
Yeah. Well, that's good.
Shooter. Yeah, yeah, I think I've heard
people say that, you know, if heneeded you somewhere and you
weren't there, he could move youthere and make it look natural.
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Let's just say that, right? But apparently you're at this
point now, you're not needing that, thankfully.
That's good. Well, the next is another great
tag team and you brought them upand then we can just go quickly
with this one if you want, but we can talk as much as you like.
But I I, I personally think if this tag team could have stayed
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together, had it not been for other circumstances, they would
be probably considered one of the greatest tag teams of all
time, and that's Ricky Steamboatand Jay Youngblood.
Yeah, that I would agree with that.
I see Jay was the one that I hadbecome friends with, you know it
down the Tigger by the dressing room door, even though I'd been
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in the business elsewhere, you know, I didn't go backstage.
And so Jay was instrumental in getting me connected to Dory,
and Dory was was booked. And then so that's how I got
into Mid-Atlantic. And they were just an awesome
team. I mean, I wish I had had a move
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just as as high and as fast as Ricky did.
Yeah. Had one of the best arm drags of
anybody. And a dropkick.
And you know, it's funny. It's just so funny.
I almost think the one person that I think was almost
comparable to Ricky was Brad Armstrong.
What did you think? He had, yeah, he would be a
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close second. Brad was he was lightweight so
he had that ability and he stilllooked good.
He didn't look like non muscled or whatever.
And. And and that makes a difference.
Oh, it does. It does.
Yeah. He looked like 1,000,000 bucks.
But, you know, Ricky did too. Ricky just, I mean, I've heard
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that the women loved these two guys.
You could just, you know, it was, it was they, they did not
have any trouble with the ladies.
Let's just say that so. All right, how about Dick
Slater? I worked with Dick a couple of
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The Plastic sheet. Jared St.
What's up, Judd? How you doing?
I'm good brother, how about yourself?
I am good, man. Just, you know, doing this thing
as I always am, you know, podcast, podcast, podcast, but
everything's good. Just knock them out constantly.
You and Wolf have been doing some good ones lately.
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Yeah, yeah, we've had some good interviews.
We just we just did our top ten.Oh my God moments.
That was kind of fun. And then we interviewed Boris
Zhukov, the rushes. Yeah.
And then we just interviewed BobCook today and Bob's been a long
time underneath guy for the, youknow, WCW Championship wrestling
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from Florida. He he had a cool run.
So good interviews, very happy with all of them.
So I'm excited for those to comeout and but I'm most excited
about this one today, man, we got Rick McCord and I'm stoked.
Yeah, man, it should be a great one.
I'm I'm really excited that picture you sent me the other
day with Steamboat Piper flair and him all in kind of one like
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hanging back watching the matches go on or something like
that. Man, that was that's a trip.
Oh, Jay Youngblood is on it too.Sorry.
Yeah, it kind of lets you know where he is coming from, where
he's worked. I mean, it's a cool photo.
And, you know, it's like, who are all these guys in this
photo? And then you kind of figure it
out and yeah, there's some legendary dudes in there and
then Rick standing right there with them.
So it kind of lets you know where, where he was and where
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he's, you know, what he's all about, you know?
Yeah, where he's being, yeah. Absolutely.
Well, I'm very excited to get him on, but of course, I want to
do a little company business here.
First off, we got to thank TommyAngel.
He's climbing the charts quickly.
You know, got some great responses from all the people
that listen to that episode. He's going to be I think he's
going to be concerning Gators number one spot in a little bit
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for sure doing some great numbers with that one.
Thank you all so much. If you haven't for some reason
listen to that episode and you're listening to this one,
definitely go back and listen tothat one.
It was a lot of fun and man, he's just really put us over to
as far as everything and he really enjoyed his time on here.
So hopefully that means more people.
I think hopefully David Isley will be coming soon.
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I'm excited about that. And we've got a lot of other
people lined up that, like I said, it's just humbling and
excited at the same time, you know?
Yeah, absolutely, man. It's a it's good that good that
us being from this little neck of the woods can can get to get
to anybody that has been anywhere to do to talk to us,
man. It's, you know, we're, we've
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been lifelong fans, but sometimes that doesn't mean
anything so. Right, definitely a blessing.
You know, we've we're just some small town kids that get a
chance to talk some pro wrestlers and and having fun
with it. You know, one of the things we
just did and I got to thank you for this sheet.
We just went to Johnson City, TNon November 11th.
It was a Saturday and we watchedus some wrestling, some WWE
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super show and man, I had a goodtime.
What about you? Yeah, man, I did.
The kids had a good time too, you know.
Yeah, that was the most important part.
You know. Yeah, they, they loved it.
You know, it was, you know, we had good seats.
We were right there at the ring.I felt like we could see
everything good. And yeah, made a little bit of
scrunched up, but luckily I could put little chic on my lap
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a little bit. He could.
Yeah, and Paisley was sitting beside me and gave me half her
seat too. So I hope that, you know, I know
Chic's a fan, but I hope Paisleycame out a fan too, you know?
So I. Think I think you'd probably
increased her fandom of it a little bit.
I don't know. Yeah.
She's all time playing with little Chic.
When he he wants her to play, he's like come on and play
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wrestlers with me. So she gets forced into it
sometimes. So.
Yeah, so I'm sure she's doing good at that.
But yeah, they seem to have had fun.
And it was cool seeing it through their eyes, you know
what I mean? And I don't think little chic.
I mean, I bet his cheeks were hurting after that because he
didn't stop smiling the whole time, you know?
So there was a time when Becky Lynch came out and, you know, it
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was as in, hey, Pax, let's go over there.
And I tried. And he was like, no, he was so
shy. Yeah.
That was like our one opportunity to get any closer
like that. But we have to.
We might have to get in those seats next time where he doesn't
have to work for it. He just had to.
Yeah, yeah. Those superstar experiences,
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people were sitting right besideus.
So that kind of tells everybody what kind of seats we had.
But three rows back and four seats over from the from the
entryway. So it was very cool, man.
Yeah. Had a lot of joy that though I
had a good time with you and thekids and yeah, absolutely what
to what to try to do it again sometimes.
Yeah, man. Well, you know, I'd like to.
I told everybody I'd like to seesome old wrestling, but
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unfortunately we we have that anymore.
So we have to watch what what's given to us.
So there's there's definitely a lot of fun and I think they had
a great experience. And I tell you, man, I remember
some about the wrestling, but I didn't remember how, you know,
intimate the Freedom Hall was, you know what I mean?
So yeah, to me it's it's like wereally got the chance to.
I don't think there's a bad seatin that house, you know, so.
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Yeah, no, I think you could haveseen it pretty good from
anywhere in there. I could be maybe some side
angles you couldn't see it as good from, but right the most of
the angles I think you'd see it pretty good from so.
Yeah, we saw people like, you know, Cody Rhodes, The Miz, LA
Knight, Becky Lynch, of course, Seth Rollins, Drew McIntyre.
I thought Owens, Kevin Owens, Sam Jose, both Usos.
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Yeah, it was. I mean, again, I don't follow it
that closely, but it's it was just a lot of fun just to see
that. And again, you know, I was
asking pax and I was like, who are we yelling for in this
match, you know? And yeah, you know.
We saw. We saw the longest reigning
Intercontinental champion now so.
In Guenta, yeah. And we got to see little nature.
I popped about that. Yeah, we were probably more
popped about that. Exactly.
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Yeah, there's chops. Sounded like they hurt though.
Yeah, there was no way you couldn't hear that in the.
I bet they heard that in King Sport, you know?
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, that was a lot of fun.
I appreciate you, you know, bringing me there and watching
that. That was a lot of fun.
It was a very fun experience. Got a got to spend some time and
and watch some wrestling, you know?
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I'm glad you, we're glad you could make it because it was a
yeah, just a, you never know. It was like kind of a, you know,
had a couple weeks notice to you, but it tells sometimes.
Spur of the moment, but hey, it was worth it.
Absolutely. But yeah, man, you know, I guess
with all that being said there, I think we should go ahead and
get our guest on the show. What do you think?
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Yeah, man, let's get him on here.
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All right, we are back with our very special guest today.
And honestly, Jared, I just onceagain, we're getting some great
guests man. And and I want to go ahead and
introduce him right now. He is the legendary Rick McCord.
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Rick, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Thank you for the invitation. I'm I'm enjoying it.
Awesome, awesome. Great to have you, man.
Yeah, we'll, we'll have some fun.
I tell you, all we like to do isjust tell good stories and, and
talk about your your days in thewrestling business.
So this will be a lot of fun. Yeah.
One thing you know, we always start a show with is the plastic
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sheet. We always start with his
favorite question chic. Take it away all.
Right, Rick. So what this question is
designed to do is it's just going to tell the people who
like your influences and and wrestling who your favorites
were or anything like that or just somebody you just you just
all around liked. But like, if you had the top
four or top five favorite peoplein the rest of business of Mount
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Rushmore, so to say, wrestling, who would that be?
Well for one main one would be Randy Savage.
I learned so much from him and from Lanny his brother.
It was I was part of the beginning of ICW and also was
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voted the rookie of the Year. So that great honor that I
appreciated. And then of course, just there's
a bunch of Walter McDaniel. I got to tag with him one time
and that was my major honor. Yeah, it's awesome.
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My dream was to wrestle from Mid-Atlantic, but I went to
several places, other territories, and gained all the
experience that I could so I would look much better in front
of the home crowd. So that's what I did.
And then with Mid-Atlantic, I'vegot to wrestle my home Civic
Center in the Greensburg Coliseum, where I always like to
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go. And so then I've made major
friends from just that era alone.
Actually, after I retired, I gotinto the transportation business
and I now have a limo service here in Roanoke.
And I got to surprise Ricky Steamboat.
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I saw his name come up on the schedule for a trip to the
airport. And so he comes walking out from
the lobby and sees me standing there by the car.
And he was, he was shocked, but I always had the the most
respect for him. He was, he's one of the nicest
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people that's in the whole business, I would say.
And, you know, and I just, it's been different ones like that.
I spent a lot of time in the Central States and Bob Geigel
was a great promoter to work forthat, you know, so I, I had the
opportunity to meet and work with and even tag with some of
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the the best in the business. You know, it was a great ride.
Great list, man. It's it's you know, Ricky
Steamboat. Ricky Steamboat is somebody that
I think people like remember himwhen they talk about Randy
Savage in the match of WrestleMania 3 or they remember
him with the with the flare matches he had.
But man, he was he was a worker and a half man.
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I mean, that's. Yes, I tried to do his arm drag,
but but he he had a perfection of what it was a little bit hard
to do. Hey, we don't blame you for not
being able to do that when it's okay.
That's incredible. You know, there's a famous photo
of you and it's got Steamboat Youngblood.
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I think it's Barry Horowitz, Roddy Piper and Rick Flair in
the photo, and that's like the Mount Rushmore right there, you
know? So that's a pretty crazy
picture. Do you remember taking that
photo? I guess it was taken of you I
would assume. I do, or there.
I think it's the one that I've seen come up several times.
It was at a high school gym and we were standing along the wall
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just waiting for watching the matches and waiting for our turn
to come up. Yeah, Yeah.
I think that's the picture that I've seen it several times.
Yeah, it's a great photo. And I, was it Barry Horwitz or
Brad at Armstrong? I can never tell.
I'm. I'm always.
Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought, yeah, that's it.
Yeah. Anyway, incredible picture.
And it's just like, you know, and one thing Rick is funny is I
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didn't realize Piper was as tallas he was because, you know, you
had all the guys that are prettymuch the same height, you know,
and Rick sitting down. But, you know, it was funny
because Piper just looked crazily tall there.
It was like, you know, but I mean, Barry Horowitz was pretty
tall guy, too. I thought so, anyway, Yeah.
Just a little bit taller than me.
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Gotcha. OK, OK.
Yeah. Well, anyway, it's just crazy to
think that you've got all that encompassed in one photo and
you're standing right there withthem.
So thank you for being our guesttoday on the show.
This is awesome. Very on for the invitation.
Yes, Sir. Well, Rick, we, you know, we
talked about other guys now, butI want to talk about Rick McCord
now. So Rick, my very first question
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of every show is this is let's talk about your younger days.
Your where'd you go to high school?
Where were you born? What sports did you play?
OK, well I was born in Salem, VAand after all the wrestling and
everything, that's where I settled back.
Yet I'm actually, I actually live in the house I grew up in.
So I toured the country and thencome back.
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But anyway, I I met a guy named Mike Weddle who wrestled as
Eclipso and he had a ring in hisbackyard up in Salem and met him
at the matches, Starland Arena. That was where the first match I
ever went to was. And so he had he had built this
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ring with railroad ties planted in the ground.
So it was a solid different. Yes.
Sir. And, you know, and we, we know
every Saturday we started doing matches, you know, through the
week with the way, you know, we're watching and, and to work
on moves and then we'd have matches and, and then we started
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running some spy shows of somebody that had a portable
ring. Yeah.
And after doing that a little while, I said I want to do this
for real. And I went to Jay Youngblood
told me because I used to talk to him at the matches, but long
before I ever worked for Crackhead.
And he told me Tennessee was thebest place to get your break.
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And so that's what I did. I went out there and and I did
to try out match on TV and and they told me to come back.
Yeah. So that's when it started.
That was 178. Wow.
So that was, I don't want to make you sound, but that was
actually the year I was born. Rick, that's wild.
Yeah. So no disrespect, please.
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So did you train with Mike? Was Mike ahead of you in the
business or did y'all learn together or how did that work?
We worked at, we go to the matches on Saturday night and
then Sunday we'd come back and we would get out in the ring and
we would have our own matches. And we actually even started
drawing a crowd on a Sunday, youknow, you know, I just said I
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want to do it for real and try to make a living at it.
And, and he, he was a little behind.
I mean, he, he never really toured.
He, he went some places in therebecause we didn't keep in tight
contact, but but he never reallyactually got into the business.
That's all he did. I mean, I I went to where I was
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doing seven days a week and all over the place.
You were, you were, and I can't wait to talk about all of it.
But to go back to clip a little bit here, Clip actually trained
my mentor and trainer and the guy that got me in the business,
Kenny Steele and Kenny Pack and Kenny just passed away a couple
years back, unfortunately. But anyway, I know that Clip and
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him had kind of fallen out and then got back together and
fallen out and then there, you know, it's kind of kind of like,
you know, it's kind of like I think they had a deep kinship
for one another. But I feel like also, you know,
it's like a rebellious child, you know what I mean?
And I think Kenny wanted to strike out on his own.
And I don't know, you know, everybody wants to be their own
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promoter until it's time to be the promoter, you know what I
mean? So it is a hard job.
Yeah. Anyway, so.
So I guess technically you learned with yourself and and
such as that. So go ahead, Jared, ask the.
So you talked about like having like a, you know, kind of like a
tryout match, but what would youconsider your, like first
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official match and like, was it for like a, what promotion or
whatever would it be for? It was for Nick Gorlis in
Nashville and, and and I had being in the like the minor
league when I'd go to the matches at Starland or to the
Greensboro Coliseum. I made friends with Jay
Youngblood and and different ones like that, and they used to
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coach, coach me and tell me, youknow, what I needed to do and
then the best place to go for a tryout to actually get in.
And that's why I went to Nashville because that's what
Jay had told me. So, you know, so they, they,
they, you know, they didn't try to take a paper around me.
They just, they were open and and grave And it was, it was
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several of them that Jay Young brother was one of the mainland
that I'll talk to every time I went to the matches.
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, you know what a loss that
guy was, right? He could have been one of the
all time greats and just a tragic loss there.
So, so N.W.A Mid America for theGhoulis family or Nick Ghoulis.
As I say, you know, this is going to kind of lead us into
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our very first section of the name game.
But a lot of our listener base is from Nashville.
That's kind of our bread and butter people, you know.
So when it comes down to it, youknow, Nick Ghoulis is so
legendary there. Talk about Nick himself.
I would love to hear some stories.
He he was very interesting and Ialways have repeated or even
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told someone a few weeks ago about the the conversation Nick
I had when when I was working there, they let me work in the
office and run errands for him. And you know, that that was
ideal for me because I'm right in the middle of, you know, some
of the best to, you know, listento and, and learn from.
And so one time, you know, Nick was always had the reputation of
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not paying good. You know, some promoters had
that. But anyway, he, you know, I said
something about a raise and he'sa raise.
He says it's not what you make, it's what you save.
And I said, but Nick, how can I save anything if I'm not making
any money? And everybody in the room just
cracked up. That's incredible.
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It's so true, though. It's like you save a dollar if
you're only making a dollar, youknow?
So it's like, wow, yeah. But my education was the was the
value in being there. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly. Being in the office, I got to
see a lot of the behind the scenes, you know that, you know,
getting guys in there and, you know, promoting different
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things. So you know, it was a plus.
Yeah, that's awesome. Promotional consideration paid
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podcasts. All right, well, you know, like
I said, we normally do the name game during the ending part of
our show, but with you, we feel like it would be better if we
kind of do it as we go. So what we're going to do right
now is we're going to start the very first portion of the show
with the name game. So Rick McCord, would you like
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to play the name game? Sure.
All right, DJ, hit the music. All right, we are back with Rick
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McCord and the name game. And Rick, the very first name.
We've already talked about Nick.We got to talk about George.
I saw George a couple of weeks ago and in Columbia, TN.
I went to a reunion there and these he's working in the I
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think it's like the the securityof, you know, like the jail or
prison or something. But he he was always interesting
to listen to and, and he was still full of stories.
And yeah, he was during the the era of him, you know, wrestling,
you know, a lot of people thought he was a promoter son
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and got everything. But George is a good guy.
You know, we, we got along, never had any.
Yeah, and I, you know, that's the that's the tough part about
being the promoter's son is evenif you're a good wrestler,
people are going to look like that, that it's given to you,
You know what I mean? And yeah, but well, so we're
trying to also get George on a show.
So maybe, Rick, after you have agood time with us, just let
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George know that we don't buy it.
OK. So.
Well, the next name, Jared, takehim away.
This is former guest of the showArvo Hutto.
Arvo Hutto. He was at the Diamond Reunion
and I just went through and he, he's even the one I keep in
touch with, you know, when I confirmed that I would be there.
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He's a great guy. He's you know, he, I worked with
him a couple of times. Most of the time, you know, he
was in A tag match in the main events some of the times and you
know, but always great to talk through.
He's have a lot of respect for him.
Yeah, Arville's a great. Yeah, We're big fans of Dante
and Mephisto, and yeah, we like Arville quite a bit.
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He's too modest. Yeah, he's too modest.
Yeah. He won't own up to doing
nothing. He's like, well, I just wish I
did more, you know? And it's like, you did some
pretty great stuff, brother. It's OK, you know.
I drove that trip and then I went to the lumber convention in
Orlando. So it was like 3300 miles for
the whole trip. I didn't want to miss the the
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reunion in Columbia because, youknow, that's, that's my start.
That's the first people I knew. Yeah, Yeah.
And God forbid you never, never know with with as we grow older.
And again, I know you're a spring chicken, Rick, but some
of the guys, you never know if you're going to see them next
time. So it's it's you want to make it
when you can, you know. So Speaking of somebody that I
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wish I could see tomorrow, this one would be beautiful.
Bobby Eaton. Bobby was was one of the nicest
people and it was hard for him to to be a heel.
That's I mean, he was so nice. He would, you know, I don't want
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to, I'm not one on the the expose side, but but he'd give
you a clothesline and as you were going down, he said he
would say you OK, You OK? You know it.
It wouldn't hurt anybody for anything and just super, super
nice guy. Yeah, Bobby was great for sure.
How? About Terry Gordy.
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I met Terry, think that was wellat that one.
I worked for Bill Watts and he was, he was a nice guy.
I didn't get to talk to him a whole lot because he was kind of
in his clique. I worked a couple of matches
with him and Michael Hayes. Gotcha.
OK. That was cool.
Yeah, so I was doing my researchon you and I was looking up your
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match history and it actually showed this big match that you
worked in at for the Goulis's and it was all these great names
in it. And Terry popped up.
So maybe we skipped ahead too much there, but I'm not sure if
if he was actually in that matchor not.
So I apologize if we got him tooquickly there.
But the next one is, is the Nightmare Danny Davis.
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I was there when Danny was he was already main event and it
was him and Ken Wayne and Tennessee, you know, Tennessee
people are just automatically welcoming and that everyone that
I've met was like that, all the boys and you know, it was just
it was great and everybody wanted to help you and, you
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know, coaching a little bit if you needed it.
So it was it was a great it was a great way that I started in
the business and I I wasn't under the pressure of a, you
know, gigantic promotion that myinexperience would have come out
then. You know, I'm glad I got to
start in Tennessee and was the best place.
Yeah, that's awesome. That's very cool, Very cool.
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Great guys. You mentioned it before in your
about Randy Savage. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I have a lot of respect and everything to Randy because
he he gave me a good break. He had just the matches we had.
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It was in education every time and you know, it's unfortunate
that I got to work with him likeI did and they put the Rookie of
the Year title on me. So that helped me get a lot of
the main event matches with Randy out in the spot shows.
That's awesome. So, you know, and he was great
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to work with. All you had to do is, you know,
just he didn't like an arrogant person.
Yeah. And and he would, he would put
them in their place when he had to, and he could do it.
Yeah, yeah. No kidding.
Yeah. So.
So I got a follow up for you everybody.
I always like to ask everybody that kind of knew Randy like
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did. Was he always in that character,
like always in his like macho man character?
He was, he wasn't as loud vocal,you know, he had a softer voice
that you know, when he had talked to you, but you know, but
he would he would come into character just in a split of a
second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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What intense gentleman. But also, yeah, he cared a lot
about the business, I think, andthat was one thing.
Yeah, yeah. So didn't like a cocky worker,
you know, he, you know, he like somebody that appreciated the
business and appreciated the word, you know, the boys working
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with them and everything. Yeah.
And if you were arrogant, he would put you in your place.
Yeah, yeah. Well they do it.
I believe it. I believe every bit of it now.
I believe you, you kind of wind up leaving mid America and you
actually you work with these twogentlemen and these two
gentlemen actually became quite famous a few years later after
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this for partially expose on thebusiness and also a slap to a
John Stossel and but Doctor Dee and Eddie Mansfield.
I think you worked in A tag match with them and I'm not sure
about the promotion, but do you remember working with them?
Yeah, I do. It was either right at the end
of working from the gorillas or when after I left ICW, I was up
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there for two years. Then I came back home, my
stepfather was sick and I grown out my mom for a little bit and
he passed away. And just as soon as that
happened, I got booked in Memphis.
And that's, I think that's wherewhere our paths crossed.
OK, gotcha. What did you think about that
whole deal? I mean, you do you.
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Do you feel like Doctor Dee did the right thing there or do you
think it was all a work or what do you think?
I don't really know what to say on that one.
It was, you know that I respected the business and that
when somebody is not respecting the business or the the the
other workers, you know, that's where you get your weak links.
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And but that's, there were some that, you know, they, it rose
them to stardom beyond wrestling, and I think that's
what they were trying for. Well, hey, Doctor DI, don't
think he pulled that punch out of that slap.
Let's just say that. So it looked like he connected a
couple times. And then I know Eddie.
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Eddie, we've had several guests on the show that have really put
over Eddie Mansfield. So again, I'm not trying to make
you say anything you don't want to say.
I'm just saying that some peopleseem to have liked Eddie and
some people didn't like him because he did that, you know,
so. Yeah, well, I like to meet, you
know, we, we had a good rapport back in the dressing room and
and, you know, worked with him acouple of times.
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So, you know, I got along with everybody, you know, and.
That's what I've heard. Yeah, that didn't dwell on any
imperfections because I wasn't perfect.
Understand, Hey, that's that's avery realistic way to look at
it. So, and I know that one thing,
and I'll always say this was Doctor D was the original Stone
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Cold too. So that's my opinion.
Yeah, he he seemed like he had the the Stone Cold Steve Austin
character before Steve Austin did.
But well, but anyway, let's talkmore about Rick McCord.
How about that? So when you go to ICW now ICW
for the Papos, to me, that's oneof my favorite after, you know,
learning more about the business, that's one of my
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favorite promotions to watch and, and one of the two reasons,
obviously for Randy Savage and the Papos.
But there are two other guys that I really enjoyed in ICW and
we'll we'll talk about just a second.
But leaving N.W.A Mid America and going to ICW for the Papos.
Was Randy your connection on that or Lanny?
I'm trying to remember it wasn'tor they were working for
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Nicholas while I was there and when they decided to started,
you know, they asked me if I wanted to come along with them
and you know, you in the business.
I was a little bit scared to, you know, if you became somebody
that would jump ship, you know, it wouldn't be a reputation to
have and but you know it none ofthat happened that way.
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You know, it was time for me to go and grow some more.
See some new towns and. Yeah.
And, and so they gave me the opportunity and moves to
elections in Kentucky where theywere based.
Gotcha. Yeah.
Did you live in all those apartments with all them?
Is that where you were staying? No, I I actually knew someone up
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there and she moved to Florida and she let me stay in her
house. Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah. There you go.
Yeah. Right off New Circle Rd.
Well, so my brother and I, we'refrom a small town in in
southwestern Virginia, Lebanon, and Virginia, and it turns out
ICW ran in Lebanon, VA quite a bit because of this.
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This guy right here Hoot Gibson.Do you have any good hoot
stories? Not that I can remember, just
super nice guy. And yeah, he was a hoot.
I love that we're actually trying to get him on the show.
I know he's not doing well. We've talked to Ronnie Garvin
before and he's actually was telling us that he had
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Parkinson's and was not doing well.
So Hope Hoot's doing OK. And you know, even if we don't
get him on the show, hope he lives as long and as healthy as
he can. That's that's what we like.
So and he was our claim to fame in Lebanon.
You know what I mean? Everybody knew to hoot and
everybody knew he was a wrestlerand he, he protected the
business just as well as anybodycould.
So he was, you know. I think I remember him back when
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I was doing the beginning with Eclipso, you know, when he
started running a couple of couple of shows.
OK, gotcha. And I said, yeah, I remember way
back. Yeah, that's awesome.
That's very cool. That's very cool.
How about Doug Vons? Doug Vines, great worker we
were. He was my opponent for the
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Rookie of the year, ICW Rookie of the Year, and when it got
down to the voting, then I beat him for it and that set it up
for us. We had a running feud the whole
year and a great worker. Great.
I mean, he could get some heat and and he didn't.
He made me look good too. So yeah.
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I'm trying to get Doug on a show.
I know we're having a little bitof trouble tracking him down,
but if anybody out there listening has contact info for
Doug Vines, let me know. We'd love to have him on the
podcast. Too, so I haven't heard where he
might be. Yeah, I think he's up in
Somerset, but we we can't get a phone number on him, but we'll
figure it out. The next two on the list, I'm
going to put them together sincethey're father and son.
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We've talked about Randy, now we're going to talk about Lanny
and Angelo. Most of my beginning matches and
I see W was was with Angelo and you know, it was it was it was
kind of a routine match. So you knew what was, you know,
kind of what to expect out of itAnd and it was it was an
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education every time. And you know, I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed working with him and and Lanny.
We we tag team some quite a bit and I see W and he always had
the best stories to tell. He was an entertainer in the
dressing room, too. Talk about somebody that was a
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an athlete too. He was like a gymnast or
something, man, he. Oh yeah.
He was so just so smooth, but itwas almost like an unreal kind
of smooth. It was just crazy.
How? How you know?
He was very lumber so he could he could do flips and everything
and then come out just shocking you how he is Sony speed after a
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fall like that. Yeah, yeah.
It was crazy, Yeah. How about the hands of Stone?
Ronnie Garvin. Ronnie, he's great guy.
We we traveled a lot together and and we've actually connected
after all of us had retired. Every once in a while we'd
connect, but I haven't seen him for several years and I was even
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thinking about trying to get in touch with him.
But I I think he was one of the best money draws in the
wrestling business. Yeah.
He was. Great.
Yeah. And great.
Great to talk to. Rd. trips were fun.
He was. He was a lot of fun.
That's cool. All right.
The next one on the list is my buddy and one of the shooters,
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one of the true shooters and especially from that promotion,
ICW, he was definitely he can handle himself in the ring end
out is Mr. George Winegroff. I knew you didn't say that,
George. We traveled a lot together.
You know, the times you got to spend on the road, you got to
really know him. And he's just a great guy.
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And he would, he would watch thematches through his little
monocle and he had and he would,then he would coach, he would,
he would tell you, you know, what looked good and what looked
bad and, and all that, but just,you know, just a natural of the
business. Oh yeah, let me play you
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something really quick. So we had George on the podcast,
Wolfie D and I from PG13. We have a podcast called Live
and In Color. All the listeners already know
this, but I'm going to play you this recording.
After we had George Weingroff onthe show, this is what he called
me and said hi. Jamie George Weingroff.
I think Wolfie had left me a message about doing a show on
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Tuesday and that that'd be fine with me.
I was wondering if I talked to Ronnie Garvin and he'd he'd be
willing to come on there with me.
So I want to know if that would would work for you.
You guys would like that. All right, let me know.
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So that's George Wyongroff and he offered up Ronnie Garvin.
So he, he asked would it be OK for him to have Ronnie Garvin on
with us? And I couldn't answer him yes
quick enough, you know. So yeah, George was great.
And George is a friend and and Itell you what man, he he was one
of those guys that he I couldn'tbelieve that he went and
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wrestled Pancrase the the more shoot style wrestling in Japan
at 41 too, you know, so pretty crazy stuff if in my book, you
know, so. I learned a lot from him.
You know, he would watch all thematches and you know, he'd
critique you and hours, you know, in a good way.
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And yeah, great guy. Yeah, yeah, Great guy.
Well, OK, so you kind of end up wrapping up with the Papos and
you go to this promotion with what would be your home
essentially for the next year. You end up in CWA in Memphis.
So I guess we kind of know how you got from the Gulisses to the
Papos. How did you make it from the
Papos to Memphis? Well, when I came back home then
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when I I started making some phone calls and I don't remember
exactly who I talked to, but youknow, like when I got into
Mid-Atlantic, do I talk to Jay Youngblood and he talked to Dory
and he introduced us. But out there, they had already
seen my work from Nick Goulas and from from Papa's, you know,
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some of the shows that they did.And so, you know, when I was
available and I think they just needed some underneath talent
that they they said come on in. And so I had I had a good run
there. It was, it was, it was, it's a
gimmick territory. And you know, so that makes you
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start realizing that there's different characters to the
whole promotion, not just, you know, different wrestlers and
you know, so so that was a wholenew experience for me and long
trips. That's the only thing.
But it was that I enjoyed it. I wouldn't have traded for
nothing. And it became my go to promotion
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after I would go somewhere else for a few months or six months.
And and then I knew that I couldcall him and say I'm finished
down here. I went to Pensacola and when I
finished up there and I called and they said come on back.
We got a spot. Yeah, come on back anytime.
Yeah, Yeah. And you know, that's funny
because you did go from a very, I would say, you know, I mean,
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ICW was very what what would youcall it, the promotion?
They were very hungry. It seemed like they were, they
were very hungry to run and showthat they were the real deal.
And then you get to CWA where it's a little more, well, what's
the word? They're already set.
You know, they're, they're not trying to build the company.
They've got the company. So yeah, it probably went from a
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very work hard and press to another company where you work
hard and press, But it's a different vibe out there and.
I've I've heard dirty white boyssay this.
He's like, I went from the fullers and continental to I
went to CWA in Memphis. Where USWA in Memphis, buddy,
That's howdy doody time out there.
You know, it must understand what that means because you
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laughed. Yeah, but anyway, they they had
the characters and they had theyhad their way of telling stories
And and honestly, I I Memphis isone of my current favorites of
all time because I'm a Mid-Atlantic kid.
We grew up in the Mid-Atlantic area, but I've become an adoptee
of Memphis, you know. So anyway, Jared, start us off
with the first name of that. All right, talk to us about
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Tojo. Tojo, he was a character and,
you know, he was, I would say probably a Moody kind of person.
You didn't ever know how he was going to be to react.
And, and sometimes he would, youknow, you could make him smile.
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And sometimes there was no way you're going to make him smile,
you know. And and but, you know, you just
try to work a good match with him and then, you know, he's OK
with you. Yeah.
That's awesome. Yeah.
We've heard some great stories about Tojo before.
That's awesome too. Yeah, one on our list is the
original Midnight Express with Dennis Condry, Norvell Austin
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and Randy Rose. Talk about them.
They were great to work with. It was where I was.
There was Bobby Eaton more with the Midnight Express when I was
more involved with them. But I did get to work with them
and a matter of fact, I think Louisiana for watch they they
were down there at the same timeI was and you know, so I had
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opportunity for different promoters to work with the same
people and you know, and different promoters have
different expectations. Yeah, of course.
So it's a different match. Even though it's the same guy,
it's a different match. I love that.
That that to me is the absolute art of the business to me is
just how how cool you can see one, you see the right.
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Let's just give you an example of the Rock'n'roll Express and
Midnight Express in Mid South, or if you see them in Crockett
or if you see them anywhere else, you know, it's just to,
it's just so I love that. And that's what I consider, like
I said, the art of the business,you know?
Yeah. Yeah, all right.
This guy's got a reputation for hard hitting Gypsy Joe.
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Oh, you're right. He was, he was a tough one to
work with. He, you know, he was solid and
you know, it's it could put you in your place too, especially a
green rookie. Yeah, you know, but but overall,
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it was, you know, that survived the matches.
So I felt like I did pretty good.
Yeah, exactly. That's that's always A+, right?
Yeah, yeah. And this, this next guy, he's
considered one of the best workers and one of the best baby
faces of all time, Ricky Morton.But he is I would agree with
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that. He he can fly around and and his
psychologist there, he had a good, a good advantage because
his dad, Paul Morton, was a referee and you know, so he he
grew up with the business. So it made him just be a natural
and you know, and and that's, it's what it's all about.
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Is he the best seller of all time, Rick?
I would say if not very close toit.
OK, who's who's better if you think if there's one up there
with him who was really good. I don't know.
I hadn't really thought about that.
OK, well, maybe if it. Comes up, there's some names at
me. What about Ricky Steamboat?
He was great, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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YouTube. So the next one, and I'm going
to say these two names together because I may be hoping it will
evoke a story. And this one is Coco Beware.
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And Steve Kern. Were you there the night that
they got into it? I don't remember that I knew.
I knew both of them well, but I don't remember that.
Gotcha. But there's a story that Coco
kind of gave him the business a little bit and worked him over
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pretty good. But I love Steve Kern.
I think Steve's one of my favorite people.
I got to meet him and do an interview with him and we've
done an interview with Coco Beware as well.
And both are great guys, but I've heard that Coco was not one
you wanted to mess with. Let's just say that so.
I saw him at a convention that long ago and you know, I said he
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was always a great guy to me. Gotcha.
Yeah, that's. Awesome.
And Steve Kern, he was, he was one I looked up to, especially
when I got a chance to work in Tampa and he was there.
So, you know, I'm still a fan. No matter.
You know, even through all of that, I was still a fan of
different ones. That's awesome.
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Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah.
Well, the next name on the list,I'm going to go ahead and say it
since, you know, we brought up one of the fabulous ones.
Let's bring up the other one, Stan Lane.
Stan was a super nice guy and I enjoyed talking to him in the
dressing room. I never worked with them, but,
you know, just we traveled together, you know, a lot of the
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road trips that that's where youreally get to your connection
of, of knowing each other. Yeah, you know so, but great
guy. Great guy, very cool all.
Right. How about Eric Embry?
Eric, same with him. He's a good old Tennessee boy
and, and I always, I mean, he, he when he hadn't seen him in
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years and he walks up, you know,he grabs you and hugs you and
you know, it's like you've neverbeen apart.
Just a good guy. Yeah, you just.
Yeah. Open the book at a new page,
right? It's no, no time has passed,
right. So the next one, the next one,
I'm going to do a little impersonation.
My name was Kamala. Tell me about working with
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Kamala. I had his debut match in
Memphis, the Mid South Coliseum,and, and it was, it was light as
a feather. I mean, you know, he looked like
he was knocking the you know what out of you.
And, and, but he was a great guy, you know, and it was, it
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was an honour to have his baby match.
Yeah, 'cause they did that incredible lead in, and I mean,
it was just awesome how they didstuff with him, you know?
Yeah. And what a, what a original
character too, you know? Just yeah.
Yeah. Funny guy I've heard too, and he
could actually sing really well too, just like Coco, you know?
So. Yeah, I didn't didn't hear him
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sing, but yeah, he was a comic. Well, if you ever go on YouTube,
just look up him sing and you'llyou'll hear it if you ever need
to. Well, so 1982 you kind of end up
wrapping up the first time with Memphis and you actually work
one show for Mid South and then that leads you directly back
home basically for you to the Mid-Atlantic for the Crockett.
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So to me, you go down to Mid South.
Was that literally just a one time thing?
No promises for anything more. And then you got Mid-Atlantic.
Do you remember how that happened?
Well, I that when I went throughMid South, one of the times I
went, went there twice. I'm trying to remember exactly,
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but I went in and I was there for three months and I was
loving it, loving the territory.The money that I was making was
great and I asked Bill Watts, I said, I know you change your
underneath talent every three months, but is there any way
that I could get a three month extension?
He says, Nah, He says you can come back sometime.
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He said, but that's, that's stick to that.
And you know, but, but he was, he was great to work for and and
had a great time there. They got the rest on the
Superdome and yeah, that's that's a major honor.
Yeah, absolutely. Well, we'll get back to him.
I want to talk about the Mid-Atlantic now.
So, all right. So obviously you've worked.
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You're you're becoming a veterannow.
You're you've the green has changed color.
You're actually starting to understand the business a little
more now and you're working for your home territory.
And I would assume that's probably your favorite promotion
since it was what growing up. Would that be true?
There would be. The top 2 would be the
Mid-Atlantic and Central States.OK, Yeah, well, we'll get to
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Central States in a minute, but let's talk Mid-Atlantic.
I I can't wait to hear about Mid-Atlantic.
So. OK, before when I went to watch
and then before I came back home, my stepfather was was he
was sick with cancer. So I come back home to help out
a little bit and I was going to the matches and I bumped into
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Jay Youngblood and you know, so that we kind of got a connection
going there and so he was going to talk to Dory about me
starting there. Gotcha.
OK. And so that's how I got into mid
final. Very cool.
So how were the Crockettes? We always like to ask this
question because obviously we love Mid-Atlantic.
How were they working for them? It was, it was awesome, totally
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awesome. And, you know, and then I mean,
I was, I was the the most thrilled person who's ever
imagined because I was working for my dream territory and I got
to wrestle my home Civic Center and things like that.
I was wrestling with the people that I grew up with and, you
know, couldn't have been any better.
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Salem Civic Center. That's awesome.
Yeah. That's wild to think about.
You come home and you work in the in the home Civic Center.
That's so awesome. You know, I can't imagine, you
know, Lebanon didn't have a Civic Center.
But when it comes down onto it, getting to work in your
hometown, I would assume a lot of your people came out to see
you. Oh.
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Yeah, yeah. Family and friends.
Hey, this Rick McCord guys getting over guys.
We got to put him up the card a little bit.
Listen to that. I'm sure they had the story
though. So one of the first matches you
worked there was with one of my favorite guys and especially I'm
not sure if his manager was withhim at this time.
I know that this was kind of a big combo, but was the great
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Kabuki with and was Gary Hart with him at this point?
Yes, he was OK. Yeah.
And that was, that was very interesting, you know, but it
was a great match. I I loved it when it was
different. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah. So do you, do you have anything
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you could say about Gary at all?Did you know him at all very
well? Well-being in the other dressing
room, I didn't get to really knowing, but you know, just just
in the, the passing and you know, but he was, he was good to
work with and him being a manager and everything and, and
I said it was good. That was my guy.
(52:19):
The the listeners are tired of hearing this.
But when I got in the business, that was the guy ripped off the
most probably. So it was just funny because
when he would say stuff like, let me tell you something, baby,
you know, I couldn't really get that across in the 2000s as well
as it sounded in the 80s, though, you know what I mean?
So yeah, he was, he had, he had the the rap that.
(52:41):
Oh, he did. I mean, he got later.
Yeah, he was great. Yeah.
All right, how about Dory Funk Junior?
Dory was the Booker when Jay introduced me and, you know,
helped me get started with Mid-Atlantic.
So I, I got to work with Dory several times and great, great
to work with. You know, you got to imagine
(53:04):
here you're wrestling someone that was a world champion that
you know, you're just there and you just ready to listen to
whatever they got to say and and, you know, just try to do
the best you can with with a great person.
Yeah, I got to meet Dory later on on a Mike Porter show and
wow, just he was still working then and just such a great guy.
(53:26):
And so he had everybody listening to him.
You know, it was like funny because most people are usually
talking in the locker room, but everybody was hunkered around
Dory. And you know, the cool thing was
is they had him set up in a different room there at the
building, but he actually was inthere with us, talking to us.
It was incredible. So.
Dory was a great guy, for sure. I was lucky to be on that show.
(53:47):
So the next one on the list. And he became much more famous
later when he worked with Vince and he had a reptile wrapped
around him. But at this point, he's getting
pretty good at this game of wrestling here.
Mr. Jake the Snake Roberts. Yeah.
When I talk about him, I tell people that I wrestled him at
the right era. It was before Damien.
(54:15):
I don't know if I could have laid it there and had a snake
laid on me. No, I don't think I could
either, you know, But but hey, who knows, Maybe if you're in
the moment you could do it, but I don't know.
I'm I'm glad you said that too, Rick, because I don't think I
could. All right, how about Jean
Anderson? I watched Jean growing up and I
(54:37):
always, I worked with him a few times and he was, you know,
just, he was solid, you know, and we, we had good matches.
All I had to do is listen. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I learned that early on too, you know, and that that
helped a lot because I'm, I'm learning.
(54:59):
So, you know, I didn't try to bearrogant or aggressive with
myself and you know, it was. I was taking it all in.
Yeah, that's awesome. How about the One Man gang?
Hands of Stone. I've talked to Ronnie ever so
often and you know, we were together in in Tennessee and a
(55:22):
little bit and then at Knoxvilleand then when Poplars had a CW,
he come up there. So we've kept in touch through
the years and he's become a great friend.
Yeah, now this is cool because, you know, there wasn't Crusher
Broomfield took over the One ManGang name.
But at this point, the One Man Gang was Ronnie Garvin.
(55:43):
And that's why I wanted him to come up, you know, because so
many people think of Crusher Broomfield as the One Man gang.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
So that was cool. I'm glad you.
I wrestled Crusher on this debutmatch and I see there.
Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Yeah, so he was a good guy. How was he is a bit?
How was he is a big guy like. Yeah, you just have to develop,
(56:06):
you know, you stay away from play cat and mouse, you know,
that's kind of where the matchesare.
And then once you got you, he's going to eat you alive all.
Right. How about the next one here,
Greg Valentine? I worked with him a few times in
Mid-Atlantic Crockett and he's when I pass him in the dressing
(56:28):
room or whatever, he's always a nice guy and but he was solid
and very solid, but in a good way too.
Yeah, I mean he he had had this blood I guess from his dad and
everything so. Yeah.
How about Johnny Weaver? Johnny Weaver, before we got
into the actual business, he would talk to me and Eclipso and
(56:52):
and you know, give us some pointers and everything.
And he was, as he was getting away from Mid-Atlantic and
retired, becoming retired and everything.
I think he did a few shows for Eclipso, but I had already
started my pursuit where I was heading.
(57:12):
Yeah, but Johnny's a great guy. The Weaver.
Lock, Yeah. I didn't know it was the sleeper
hold. I always thought it was called
the Weaver lock. Yeah, I forgot about that.
What about one of the greatest brother tag teams of all time?
(57:32):
And I don't mean the Andersons, I'm talking about the Briscoes.
I got to work with them on TD and I saw Jerry and Waterloo
back in the back in the summer. I go out there every year for
the convention and Jerry. Jerry had an issue.
(57:53):
They had to take him to the hospital, but he was OK the next
day and come back to the convention, got to wrestle with
Jack and Jerry in a match on TV one time and it was a great
honor. That's awesome for Crockett.
Yeah, I've heard that Jack Briscoe had that tensile
strength in his hand where he could really put a hurting on
you. He was really strong and very,
(58:16):
very unsuspectingly strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've never had to feel that, butyeah, yeah, you could just tell.
Yeah. Well, that's good.
Shooter. Yeah, yeah, I think I've heard
people say that, you know, if heneeded you somewhere and you
weren't there, he could move youthere and make it look natural.
(58:36):
Let's just say that, right? But apparently you're at this
point now, you're not needing that, thankfully.
That's good. Well, the next is another great
tag team and you brought them upand then we can just go quickly
with this one if you want, but we can talk as much as you like.
But I I, I personally think if this tag team could have stayed
(58:57):
together, had it not been for other circumstances, they would
be probably considered one of the greatest tag teams of all
time, and that's Ricky Steamboatand Jay Youngblood.
Yeah, that I would agree with that.
I see Jay was the one that I hadbecome friends with, you know it
down the Tigger by the dressing room door, even though I'd been
(59:18):
in the business elsewhere, you know, I didn't go backstage.
And so Jay was instrumental in getting me connected to Dory,
and Dory was was booked. And then so that's how I got
into Mid-Atlantic. And they were just an awesome
team. I mean, I wish I had had a move
(59:38):
just as as high and as fast as Ricky did.
Yeah. Had one of the best arm drags of
anybody. And a dropkick.
And you know, it's funny. It's just so funny.
I almost think the one person that I think was almost
comparable to Ricky was Brad Armstrong.
What did you think? He had, yeah, he would be a
(01:00:00):
close second. Brad was he was lightweight so
he had that ability and he stilllooked good.
He didn't look like non muscled or whatever.
And. And and that makes a difference.
Oh, it does. It does.
Yeah. He looked like 1,000,000 bucks.
But, you know, Ricky did too. Ricky just, I mean, I've heard
(01:00:21):
that the women loved these two guys.
You could just, you know, it was, it was they, they did not
have any trouble with the ladies.
Let's just say that so. All right, how about Dick
Slater? I worked with Dick a couple of
times. He was always kind of quiet in
(01:00:41):
the dressing room. He he was in his clique most of
the time, so we didn't get to talk a whole lot.
I worked with him a couple of times.
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