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(00:00):
Hey everybody, this is Ronnie Travis here on Give Me Back My
Pro Wrestling. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to
Give Me Back My Pro wrestling. You know, so don't know Now you
(00:43):
know, baby, this is hot Rod Bigs, Jared, Jimmy St.
We're going to take them to the limit one more time, baby, right
here. Oh, give me back my pro
wrestling. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
one more time to the Give Me back my pro Wrestling podcast.
And I am not here with my brother from the same father and
mother, the plastic sheet Jared St. because he is currently in
(01:08):
with his family on a vacation inCanada.
So yeah, but never fear, as always we have our territory
wrestling guru and Co host with the MO host Quentin Charisma.
What's up Quentin? How you doing buddy?
I'm doing good. How you doing, Jimmy?
Doing all right, man, Just, you know, just doing the thing here,
getting ready for a big show today.
(01:30):
I've got some things lined up, alittle surprise for our guest
today, and I guess we can go ahead and say it.
Ronnie Travis is our guest today.
I'm excited about that one. What about you?
Oh yeah, I'm definitely, it's been, oh gosh, I've thousand
like 20 years since I've talked to Ronnie.
But actually, it's been more than that.
Like 97. OK.
(01:53):
Yeah, he's like my talk to him. So is that 25?
Rough. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Ronnie Travis, now obviously we know that his former tag team
partner is also, you know, part of the Rock'n'roll Dream Team
tag team. And Jamie Dundee, I know he's
got some stories for us there, but you never know what we're
(02:15):
going to pull out of our sleeve,right, Quentin?
I never know, that's why I got to listen.
That's right, you got to listen.I think I'm very excited about
this one, mainly because I've heard this gentleman's name so
many times, but I've never met him.
I feel like I've met him. I've heard Ben Jordan, Jamie
Dundee. I've heard so many great people
talk about him, but I don't knowhim.
So I'm excited to get to know him, man.
(02:37):
It'll be cool. Oh yeah, most definitely.
When did you first meet Ronnie? I met Ronnie in I want to say
January of 93 that are 92 ish orDecember of 92 running that time
(02:57):
period. Chris Champion brought him in
and lived to Lewisburg, TN and Iworked I worked in a few times
that when he first when Chris Chris first brought him in.
But I used to remember seeing him back, you know, years and go
before that at the national fairgrounds and you know, when
(03:19):
we're all teenagers, you know, Iremember seeing him.
I've never seen him in because Iwas like because he had that
long hair and I was like, if youhad his boots, had his jeans
tucked in his boots and wearing his how you sweatshirt, And I
was like, who's this guy thinks he?
Jamie Lane from Warrant. It kind of reminds me of a
(03:40):
little bit. Yeah, Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Kind of has that, yeah.
Especially his younger pictures.He kind of has that.
Like, you know, Jamie Lane from Warrant, look about him a little
bit. Yeah, as he got older, he
changed a little bit. But, you know, But anyway, I'm
excited to get him on. You ready to do it, Quentin?
Oh yeah, let's do it. All right, we'll be right back
(04:01):
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after these messages with RonnieTravis.
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(04:24):
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man. All right, we are back with more
from Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling and guys, I think
we've performed a bit of a miracle today.
I think we really have. Not only has Ben Jordan, our
great friend and great buddy andformer guest of the show, done
(04:48):
us a super solid, but we have found a man that didn't want to
be found. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd love
to welcome the one and only Ronnie Travis.
Ronnie, welcome to the show, brother.
Thank you, guys. Thank you.
Glad to be here. Glad to have you man.
Now, is that true? You maybe didn't want to be
found, but we still found you. I could be brother, I'm not
(05:09):
sure. I'm just old kick back like
everybody else, man, Like Jamie,Ben, the rest of them, man.
I'm just here out in Henrietta, TN, man, sitting on my little
farm. I'm a little pond, the backyard
and all the kids are raising. I'm raising grandkids now, man
How? Many you got, brother.
I got 5 kids and 9 grandkids. Wow, wow. 5 kids.
(05:29):
Yeah. I ain't got as many.
I ain't got as many as Jamie that these guys, but.
Well, and you know about all yours, that's the one thing I
think, right? Well, and I yeah, yeah, that's
true. That's true.
Just kidding, Jamie, man, we love him to death.
But yeah, we definitely specially got to thank our buddy
Ben Jordan for making this show happen today.
(05:49):
Because, you know, a couple, couple shows ago we had little
Farmer John on and we've been wanting to get you on anyway.
And he brings your name up and then I'm talking to Ben.
And I was like, Ben, do you think Ronnie will do it?
And he's like, yeah, I'll talk to him.
Let me talk to him. And sure enough, being Jordan,
we thank you, Sir, for helping Ronnie make it to the podcast.
But first of all, we just want to thank you, Ronnie.
(06:11):
So we always start every show out with the Sheik's favorite
question. Sheik.
Take this one. All right, Ronnie, so this this
question is going to give us a insight to your your wrestling
like what inspired you anything like that And it's going to let
the listeners know as well. But if you had like a Mount
Rushmore, like four or five wrestlers that either inspired
(06:33):
you, you like to watch or you like working with whatever, who
those guys be. Man, I can remember as a little
kid in the living room floor wrestling with the pillow and,
and, and I always love Dutch Mantel, that that was my guy.
Dutch was my guy. That's awesome, yeah.
You know, and then there was always Bill Dundee, you know, I,
(06:54):
I love Billy to death and Jamie and, and actually Jamie and Bill
and his mom of Beverly, they alllived right down the road from
my grandparents with me growing up.
Cool. So, so Bill was always there,
you know, and, and, and it was always the Memphis TV because
that's what we got in Nashville.Yeah.
You know, and and Lawler was theking.
(07:15):
You know, Lawler was always the king.
But I would say if I and then, you know, I put Jimmy answer,
Jimmy Valiant in there too. I love Jimmy to death.
I would say I was probably my top 4.
That's a great one, man. Yeah.
Great list, man. Yeah.
Yeah. So when we always go into, you
know, the start of the show, we talk about who maybe inspired
you, but now we like to turn it around and come back to you,
(07:38):
man. So this may open up a whole
other conversation here, but I like it.
So tell us about where you were born, man.
Tell us about your younger days,like, where'd you start out and
all that good stuff. Nashville, TN Yeah.
Born, born and raised right herein Nashville, TN, man.
And like I say, I I wrestled allthrough school and done all that
(07:58):
and it was, it was just Saturdaymorning wrestling man.
Everybody was in the Saturday and you didn't miss Saturday
morning TV. Yeah, yeah.
Do you remember about when you started liking it?
Man, I, I don't, but I can tell you this like I can.
I cannot remember ever not liking it.
You know, it was just always something that was there.
Yeah, yeah. Something that was always on.
(08:20):
Yeah, that's awesome. Always, man.
Never, never miss Saturday morning wrestling.
Never miss Memphis TV, which back then that's all we got.
You know, you didn't have the, you didn't have everything else
that goes on now. You couldn't turn wrestling on
five nights and we can get wrestling.
Yeah, now where did you go to school at?
I went to school in Gulfall, Gulfall, Tennessee.
Okay, okay. And when was?
(08:42):
High school. And when was it you came across
Jamie Dundee? Brother, I, I'm going to tell
you, man, I, I think me and Jamie's path crossed.
We've talked about this before, years before we ever started
really hanging out because like I said, his parents lived over
in beautiful and my grandparentslived there, which I did too,
but they was in the same subdivision.
So I know we played together as kids because all, you know, how
(09:04):
they all do. But I'm going to tell you a
really funny story, man, that wewas at Game Land.
And. We was probably about, I don't
know, 14-13, fourteen years old,maybe 15 on a Friday night.
And I'm shooting pool with a bunch of the guys and, and we're
having these conversations, the wrestling, you know, we're all
talking about wrestling, blah, blah, blah.
And I said, I said, I said, you know, I don't know if any of
(09:26):
y'all know or not, but Bill Dundee's got a son named Jamie
Dundee. I kicked Jamie Dundee's ass.
And. This guy across the pool table
from me says you never cooked Jamie Dundee's ass.
I said I did kick Jamie Dundee'sass, he said.
I am Jamie Dundee and you never kick my ass.
(09:48):
And, and dude, ever, ever since then, I mean, me and me, that
guy ran the roads for thousands and thousands of miles.
Yeah, yeah. And so what's really cool is
Jamie told me a story. I've had him.
I'm I'm the Co host of Wolfie DSpodcast.
And so we've had Jamie on here. We've had Jamie on that show
(10:08):
several times. But Jamie always said that you
were the guy, that all all through his days in school, kids
would always come up to him, say, yeah, your dad's Bill
Dundee, I'm gonna be a wrestler and we're gonna be A tag team
just like your dad, you know? And Jamie always gives you props
and credit for being the one dude that actually did it, you
know? So.
(10:28):
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, we did, man. I mean, me and Jamie, like I
said, we run the roads for a lotof miles.
And then you know how the wrestling business is, brother,
you just, we've done it. We always thought we'd be the
next, you know, the next Rd. Warriors, the next whatever.
And our past just took it went separate, you know, and he and
he met up with Wolfie and I'm glad to see all the success they
(10:49):
had, man. It was great, great.
And and I love Whoopi to death, you know, and I'm glad it went
that way because I know how a lot of people, you know, I don't
like this guy no more because heleft me.
He did this. And you know, I wrestled for
many years, man, full time. Never went to New York, never
did nothing like that. But man made a living out of
this business for many, many years.
(11:09):
Man till he just died. Yeah, yeah.
All right, Ronnie, my my first question is how'd you get
started in wrestling train with,you know, and all that stuff,
you know, the training part, so.Well, builder, they builder,
They had a wrestling school in Gallatin, TN and me and Jamie
used to go up there and mess around, play around, and then it
(11:30):
was out the fairgrounds for a while.
We'd go out there and it wasn't really training, man.
It was more into the just playing around, you know, it was
fun. You know, we got in the ring and
we wouldn't, 1718 years old, gotin there and played around
everything and then got a littleserious with it.
And I ended up actually trainingwith the Cuban Assassin, which,
and there was 2 Samoans and I don't know whether you remember
(11:51):
them or not. They wasn't in, they wasn't at
the Memphis territory too awful long, but it was high and
tampoo. OK, yeah.
And OK. And I ended up, I ended up
training off of West End down inNashville.
And Candy Divine's ring is whereI actually stayed.
I actually trained there. But I tell you, Mary, it's it's
really funny because I used to watch Tojo Yamamoto beat the
(12:14):
hell out of them guys, man, withthat damn kendo stick at down
there. I never got beat with it.
But boy, Sarah used to watch himbeat the shit out of them poor
dudes, man. And knowing damn good and well
they were never going to make inthe wrestling business man.
But boy told Joe had a good timebeating the shit out of them
though, I can tell you that. Oh, wait, that's funny.
(12:35):
Yeah. So when you you talk about
Gallatin, when y'all was up there, it was Ben Jordan up
there training with, with Bill. Ben, Ben did come up there and
train and that that was that wasright around the area that Todd
Morton. I don't know if you guys know
Todd Morton, but Todd Morton wastraining at that time too.
I remember that time period whenI remember when we, when Jimmy
(13:00):
interviewed Ben, he was talking about that.
So y'all, so that's when y'all was up.
So all y'all were all connected man.
Pretty much, man, I'll tell you something funny.
I love being to death, man. I've never met anybody that does
not talk good about being Jordan, man.
And, and I thank God every day that he's still with us.
And, and, and, you know, like I say, man, Ben is just such a
good guy, man. And I hate to see what he's
(13:20):
going through right now, but I see Ben, I run into Ben every
once in a while, man, whether it's we're at the Mexican
restaurant or whether we're, youknow, shopping or whatever.
Him and his wife and me and my wife, it seems like we crossed
paths quite a bit. But man, we used to make so much
fun fun of Ben Jordan because Ben's a little older than we
are. And you know, we was all hell
raising, man. We did.
It was sex, drugs and rock and roll back in them days, man.
(13:41):
And then and poor Ben didn't do nothing and drink a little beer
and man, we made so much fun of him, dude.
And just, you're just an old man, dude.
Why are you doing this now? You're older as shit, man.
You know, Ben'll be like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, look at y'all.
I'll be like, no, dude, you're old.
We've been there for probably five years older than we are.
But man, we used to make fun of him doing the dressing room.
(14:01):
Oh man, I love you, Ben. Man, you got to love Ben and you
got to love Lawanda. Man, she's, she's such a good
person. Too.
Oh yeah, Lawanda's great. She's awesome.
She'll kick somebody's butt in aminute.
Yeah. Just back bed around quick too,
I'm here to tell you. Yeah, yeah, I've seen it
(14:21):
actually. Ronnie, tell us about your first
match and like what promotion orwhatever that might have been
for. I don't know how this ever came
about. And I think Bill Dundee actually
got, he gave me, I think he gaveme this guy's number man.
And if it wasn't, if it wasn't Bill, it was JD Wolf.
(14:43):
Do y'all remember JD Wolf? Oh.
Yeah. Oh yeah, OK.
And it was in a it was in Athens, AL for a guy named
Wallace Alvin Wallace. Alvin Wallace, Yeah.
Yep. And and I, and I, and I guess I
don't couldn't even tell you whoI wrestled, man, to have no
worthy idea. But I wrestled down there for
(15:04):
two or three months in this little building, man.
It was so small that you can barely take a backdrop.
I mean, dude, it was like a garage building or whatever,
man. But I would wrestle down there
for probably about two or three months.
And I called Jamie and I said, Jamie, I got, man, you got to
come down here, dude, this placeis great.
I said, dude, I am doing. I said, dude, there ain't 100
people in this building and I'm freaking doing.
(15:26):
I said I swear to God I'm doing $250 a night in gimmicks.
Dang man. He's like, oh, man, we got man,
I got over so good down. He was like, what?
I swear to God that you can't bring enough shit down here to
sell. Yeah, he came down there and we
wrestled down there, man. I don't know, man.
Every Saturday night for six months, 8 months.
And there was no, we had $500 nights down there, man.
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We packed that building. I, I think one night, dude,
Alvin told me we had 250 people in that building, dude.
I mean, it was just, it was people would pay to stand in
that building. Yeah, wow.
I'm. Going to tell you we was the
only we was the only tag team toever taken that taken.
But this is no damn lie bro. You can ask Jamie next time you
talk to him, but we was the onlytwo people to ever take a damn
(16:08):
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Well, you know what? It's so funny.
We actually, this wasn't planned, but there's actually
someone. Hold on from parts unknown, we
welcome the Blue Cyclone to the show.
Well, my wife on that attack about a year or so back left me
at home by myself to batching after five straight nights of
(17:24):
TVI was ready to scream. I called up the beard with the
party of mine. I said, Ronnie, I ain't having a
real good time. He said, why don't we go to the
wrestling matches and let off a little steam?
Well, I've never seen the matches before.
When we reach out arena door, the crowd was already backed up
Plumb out in the street. Yeah, they pushing each other
like cattle, just getting in line with a hell of a battle.
(17:45):
We had to fight like the devil, but we finally got ringside
seats. Ronnie Gale.
What are you doing, Jamie Caird?I am going back to Athens, AL in
a limousine with the Rock'n'rollDream Team.
And, and then I'm telling y'all he's not bullshitting.
I told y'all Ronnie got me my first book.
And that's where it was for Alvin Wallace in Athens, AL.
(18:08):
And he ain't lying. We were, we were over, man.
We didn't know whatever meant, but we were over and we packed
that building in for for like hesaid, a year straight and this
is no shit that that show would not end until 2/3.
Sometimes 4:00 in the morning. I'm not exaggerating. 4:00 in
the morning. And Alvin would say they get mad
(18:29):
if you send them home before they eat breakfast and that is
no shit. That's that's the honest guy's
truth that somebody started 7:00or 7:30 and I've seen, I've seen
main event go in the frame at 1:30 in the morning.
That's I ain't kidding man. And listen to album.
I say, Alvin, why do you have 15matches each say?
Because the people are getting mad if you send them home before
(18:50):
they eat breakfast. And I say, well, I don't know
how they do. It happens to Alabama, but
everybody else I know would havewent home about 9:30.
That's one place that you could do a double shot and never miss
a damn beat, man. Yeah, never.
We would work in Nashville main event that that's right, work in
Nashville main event leaving there at 10:00 and be in Athens
(19:12):
about 12 and still make the mainevent there.
Yes, you could. That ain't no bullshit.
That's awesome, that's awesome. So we just wanted to get you 2
guys together since we're all Big Rock'n'roll Dream Team fans
and we just want to hear some stories with you 2 together real
quick so Jamie and I. Don't hear good stories about
the Rock'n'roll Dream Team, but it was all Ronnie doing the the
(19:34):
bad shit. Yeah, wasn't he doing shit?
The the the number, the number one fan, The number one fan of
the Rock and Dre Roll Dream Teamwas Tracy Smothers.
Oh dude, wasn't he wasn't he? Tracy smothers a rock roll dream
team Baby, don't fight. He he even wore on a WCWTV
(19:55):
taping show on an interview if he and Rodney was popping like a
champ, man. We thought that was the greatest
shit. Tracy smothers the wild eyes
Southern boys wearing Rest in Peace Brother is wearing a
Rock'n'roll Dream Team hat on the WCW show on Saturday night
main event. That was huge, man.
It was. Me and Jamie thought we were the
greatest thing since Hogan. We were.
(20:15):
We didn't know it. We didn't have a damn clue,
brother, I can tell you that right now.
Didn't have a clue but we had a whole lot of fun bro.
And we went up and down there bro, 'cause you got to people
got to remember for real, man. There was no Bluetooth, there
was no telephones, there was no Internet, there was not shit.
You just got in your car and we had the world's greatest tape
collection. I ain't shitting you, man.
(20:36):
We had, I had a you go. Y'all remember?
You know what a you go. You mean the only vehicle?
OK, well my brother-in-law bought a bought a you go and he
gave it to me and me and Ronnie took a you go on the road.
And listen, bro, you put $1.50 in that summer vision driving
California to North Carolina. Listen, we, we, we, we made, we
(20:56):
made good money too, but we didn't spend it on gas.
We drove that little car everywhere.
We had the world's greatest tapecollection.
I bet we had three to 500 tapes,you know, cassette tapes that
went in the radio. Because you know, back then
there was when you, when you drove down the Interstate, the
radio stations would go out because you're leaving the town
and the area. And then you wouldn't be able to
pick nothing up. And then finally you pick
(21:17):
another one up and then you drive another 50 miles and the
radio glad it sucked compared tonow for damn sure.
So man, we had the world's greatest tape collection and we
would just ride around wrestlingevery Thursday, Friday, Saturday
and Sunday singing the singing David Allen Coe and the and the
blue Cyclone. Somebody stole it there.
Somebody stole it there collection in Athens, AL.
(21:40):
They sure did. They broke in our car and stole
our whole tape collection. Man, I they could, they could
have pawned it. They could have pawned at the
pawn shop for $500 I thinking. Oh.
Man, they sure. Did.
That ain't right. That ain't right.
I am going to tell you this thatwe was in Evansville, IN and
this is no shit. We had no gas in that damn you
(22:00):
go. We dug up all the chains we had.
We put $1.27 in that thumb bitchand made it back to NASA.
That's a true story. 165 miles on $1.27 gas was only. $0.89 a
gallon. Still it was a gallon and 1/2
that. Mother went all the way to
Nashville. Bro went to older Blvd. exit.
We ran out of gas and old man picked us up drinking a beer and
(22:22):
said old man said I ain't got enough for $5 in this beard
y'all can have a sip of it but I'm keeping them a $5.
We ran out of gas one time. Me and Ronnie was underneath the
overpass in Evansville where youcircle around coming to and
anyway and everywhere you had tocircle around from the the one
that you Hwy. 65 or 9 or whatever and jump on the penny
(22:42):
rail Parkway and we did have andthis we were up to the thing
pissing me and Ronnie were pissing under the overpass and
the cop pulled up. He says no shit.
He said you boys had that you said you boys been drinking.
We said yes Sir. 12 pack of beerand 2 bottles of wine started
laughing while his wind up droveoff.
But that's what I got is when wereally had drank that ain't no
(23:04):
good man. We told him what we been
drinking, he drove off and I swear to God that everything
that is what we had to drink. Yeah, so whose idea was the name
of the tag team? Man, I, I, I don't remember,
Ronnie, you remember, I knew because the right feedback to be
in the Rock and Rolling Place was hot.
And then the Midnight Rockers were hot.
(23:25):
And so about that time I did. So I, I don't really remember
how we came about. I know Ronnie kept all the money
because his family owned the printing company.
So he printed our name on everything you could think of.
It was nothing our name wasn't printed on and we didn't sell,
but it come to think of Ronnie, you owe me some money.
I don't know. I don't know who came over the
name either. I was probably one of them.
(23:45):
Drunken nice dude or on some other drugs.
Who the hell knows back then, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, some other drug. Ronnie did.
Not me, but Ronnie did. Yeah, right.
I don't know, man. That's just a hell of a
question. I've never really been asked
that, but I don't. I don't remember where the name
came from. I couldn't tell you, but.
But it was a hell of a name. It got over like hell with
Tracy's mothers anyway. Yeah.
(24:06):
And and apparently hated it though.
Well, yeah, yeah, I, I don't know if it was Jeff Jarrett
hated it or me because he hated me at the very beginning when we
first started it. Shitty.
Matter of fact, I had a flat tire one time he pulled up, he
on the road to wind and he goes,I hate you.
And I go, oh, good to see you too, Jeff.
I got a flat tire. He goes, I know.
That's why I stopped. And Frank Murrell was driving.
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He goes, I hate you, man. And Speaking of Frank Murrell,
you remember that rib? What's that?
Yeah. That Ronnie, you remember that
rib I we did only when I had himbring me to your house.
Yeah, yeah. Listen.
I was riding back with Flame Morel one time and for Flame
Morel to drive me to Ronnie's house and back was going to be
like 40 minutes out of his way, you know?
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I mean, 20 minutes there and 20 minutes back.
So he says, you got any weed? I think this is actually when
Jeff Garrett, when I got over with Jeff Garrett, he he said,
if you give me a couple of joints, I'll take you to
Ronnie's. And I said, OK, so I call
Ronnie, you know, and I rememberno cell phones or nothing.
I stop, we stop at the page and I get out on the pay phone and I
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call Ronnie's out and Ronnie, Angela go, hey man, got any
weed? He goes, man, I ain't got no
weed. I go, well, listen, roll up two
cigarettes, but you know, put them in the papers, bust them up
and roll them up and make them look good.
And I'm going to get Frank to bring me your, we're just going
to get Frankie's cigarettes rolled up like it's weed and he
won't know till they get down the road.
So, and if anybody listen, you don't smoke cigarettes and
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you've got something like a joint.
It was and something the greatest part is, and he saved
those two joints as listen, he drove me all that way to
Ronnie's and I came out. They were beautiful too.
Ronnie rolled them up big and beautiful.
I headed them to Frankie's Frank's like brother.
Thank you, brother. I love you man.
Thank you brother. So he drives, he drives home and
he doesn't smoke them. He waits till the next day when
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he gets in the car with Jeff, Jim, Jared.
So and now he's going to drive Jeff to whatever town they're
going through. Jeff, I think this is when I got
over with Jeff said Frank lick that big.
He said, look at these two big doobies or whatever he called
him. He said look at these Jeff.
These are great. He said he cracked that wind and
he licked. He said he didn't lick that
first one. He like I said, he said shot
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through his body and split fall down his head and he said he
started coughing so hard and Jimsaid why are you Frank?
He said no, ain't no way that look.
He said Frank hit it again. He said, damn indeed, take a
rest that mother he drive 40 miles for two cigarettes him and
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that party. And I think that is the moment
that Jeff Jared said Jamie, that's great shit I've ever
heard. He said Jamie, I was watching
fire shot through his body turned instantly red.
Sweat was on his face and his eyeballs turned bright red on
the inside and said he looked atme and said no, no way.
He said and he hit it again and then he said, and I believe
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that's the moment Jeff, Jerry, Igot back over with Jeff, I think
was that moment right there. Me and Ronnie, we, we got it bad
though. Charged me two joints to drive
me 20 minutes. You buddy, I'm Bill Boy.
You don't do it to Bill Boy. Yeah, that's hilarious.
Oh my gosh, what a legendary. Man, it was it was either that
or we saw more genies in the back parking lot of Evansville,
IN and Jeff and they were selling this film.
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Yeah. That's what he said.
He asked me about that before and I said, yeah, Jeff actually
said, listen, you work for the company so you boys can't be
selling gimmicks in this buildings.
So that I said I sent me and Ronnie that out.
We go to all the Marks and they was like, where did your
pictures were like, listen, Jeffsaid we couldn't sell it 'cause
we don't work for the company. So you'll have to meet us in the
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alleys and we sat with the limo doors open, one Ronnie on the
left side of me on the right, wehustling the shit out of him.
Get me throwing the money right in the middle of the limousine
floor. Having a hell of a time, man, it
was great. I loved it.
And if I could go back to you and that's that's what I would
go back to the good old days because that's when you did this
shit because you loved it, not because the politics and the
money and all that shit. You just did it because you
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wanted to do it, you know? Yeah, yeah, definitely,
definitely, definitely. All right, I always heard this
rumor that one day Jamie and Ronnie y'all rated Bills Closet
and took all kinds of his deer and and that's where Ronnie got
those star boots. Is that true?
That is true. Yeah, that's 100%.
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But we didn't rate it. He just, my mom had left him so
he was running around with some hooker or something somewhere,
some, some, some chick with him 40 years younger.
And me and Ronnie would just be at the house and we had to
wrestle. So what better than Bill
Dundee's shit laying in there? It was good shit.
So we just went in there and then he didn't wear them like
most of the shit he didn't wear anymore And shit, the teeny
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llama boots, they were them cowboy boots.
It looked like tennis shoes on the bottom.
He had three pairs of those in there.
So I figured, well, me, I'm one,Ronnie's two and Bill's 3.
So there was still a pair for him and then and and all the
types of shit he had like he hadwhen he switched heel on Lawler
back in the 80s, he got them that they were like spandex vest
with studs all over him. You know, that he wore, they
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were cut off Swedes and they matched.
And so he had a blue one and a white one and a black one and a
rare, you know, because he stillwanted to stay with the kind of
the jumpsuit. And so me and Ronnie just
adopted. We just took them and put them
in our bags. And it was like 2 years later,
Bill said, are y'all? Is that all my shit you boys are
wearing? And look here, Jamie, I want to
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tell you something funny. You know the video you sent me
of the wrestling's? Yes, yes.
There's 2 outfits, two we took out of Bill's clothes.
OK, OK. If you look at them outfits, I
don't know if Jamie's got that video, but if you look at them 2
outfits that came out of Bill's.Why?
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Why would we buy gear? We were too many buying beer and
cocaine or whatever else came along.
Yeah, we don't want to buy gear.We didn't really want to
wrestle. We just went because there's a
lot of women and a lot of money.Let's say some horror stories in
that house. But that was me and Jamie's
Playboy mansion, man, that, thatwas just man.
But listen, my daddy, my Mama left my daddy, but my daddy
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still had to go on the road, right?
So me and Ronnie would just go out to the hot tub.
That brother, we had to. We had it going on bro.
And then then Bill kind of rude because he moved Dustin Rose and
Hanson Jimmy and a couple of other wrestlers in.
So there was always somebody else there with us.
But but at the beginning it was just me and Ronnie in these big
old houses and Bill be gone on Mondays and Tuesdays and
Wednesdays and shit. We had a lot of fun in that
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house. Well, Ronnie, did I just read
the Bible and maybe, you know. Here's your good one Jimmy.
First time I went and stayed with Jamie Dundee.
Yeah, listen to this story. 1617years old OK, we're we're in the
bed. We go to bed we're sleeping.
I wake up I hear somebody come in the house.
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Well me and Jamie is in the samebed right we're there sleeping.
This mother flames the door open.
Dude. I think he kicked the mother
because it come flying over his new wall.
I mean just damn. I look I sit straight up in the
bed and Bill said Jamie kick your ass up and I was like Oh my
God. So I pushed the hell out of
Jamie. Like, man, you better kick up,
man, right now, dude, this motherfucks.
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Sure, he said. I'm going to paint right now.
Beat your ass up, mow the grass.Stop that before I get back this
mother, please. I'm thinking, Oh my God, man,
Jamie, get up. Get the fuck, dude.
Kill us. Get old, mother.
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Yeah, I was. I was scared to bed, Jimmy.
I mean, I was terrified, man, because I only ever seen Bill.
Probably ever seen Bill on TV. You don't have the perception
that you get. Come on.
God, dude, I can do. Come on, man.
We got to get up, mow the grass,clean the dog, pens out.
Motherfucker never got out of bed, that mother man.
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If the rod you know I'll stop texting give me a few stories
and I tell you you remember thattime he'd come home and he's
raging. He said your mother stole my
cocaine, you son of a bitch. Y'all stole my coke.
Get out of my house you thievingmother.
Get up out of my house. And this is so me and Ronnie
jumping our little we go becauseit was a you go but we put two
more doors and made it the we go.
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Then we jumped in the window andwe going down the road and I
said Ronnie, did you get that coke man?
He said Jamie, I swear I didn't get that coke bro and I said I
didn't either man. I said full of shit or something
man. So what we did was we let him
and Jimmy Valiant, Dustin Rhodesand then leave the house and
they all went on the road to Memphis Rd.
So we we go back to the house and because bills so short, he
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said I put that shit right here on this second shelf and this
little silver cup. But then when he poured the cup
upside down, there was nothing and you mother y'all the dope
stealing. They throw this out and we go
back. We went back to the house.
We get up. I get up on the counter on the
on the kitchen counter there andI look on the third shelf
because Bill's so short, he couldn't reach the third shelf.
I guess, you know, he had the new he put on, but then the
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third shelf was a silver cup andit was full of gold.
OK, I go look at you know, Ronnie at done the cubes.
Let's do it, bro. We pour it out.
We didn't get it all, we do it all and then we told him about
it a few years later was hey, you know, you get remember,
Remember Me Ronnie and put doingyour cocaine and we didn't do it
till after you accused us because we'd already been
accused. So we did it.
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You mean you mean Ronnie did it right, Jamie?
You don't mean you did? It and then I just go back to my
room and start reading the Bibleagain.
Yeah, yeah. Talking to your friends?
Yeah. Ronnie, Jamie, So y'all had a
match against the Interns and Dr. Squash?
Where was that at? Where was that Ronnie?
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Is that cool breeze? No, it was Bubba.
Pierre, Doctor Squash. That's right.
Sure enough, Sunny St. And my daddy trained them,
right? Yeah, yes, yeah.
Matter of fact, I just got that video from Bubba.
From Bubba. The other day.
I thought I sent it to you too, but I maybe didn't.
Sorry about that, but. No brother, babe sent it to me
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the other day and said look at this video.
I said I'll be. Damn man, look at that, I said.
It's a blast from the past. Do you know where that was by
chance or? And I think that was
Murfreesboro, TN or something like that, I think.
OK. No, no.
What was the guy's name that ranoutside of Gallatin, TN?
What was his name? Who ran Terry Rice?
Terry Jerry Rice. Maybe, yeah, maybe they, they
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ran outside of me of Gallatin, the I can't remember the little
town right out there. I only worked for him a couple
of times. Hartsville.
Hartsville. That's him.
What was his name? Oh.
I have no idea. That's remember.
That's remember Doodel? Was it Doodle?
No, he wasn't running it then. OK, gotcha.
I thought the guy's name was Teddy Hart.
Maybe. Would that be right?
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Does that sound like familiar? I mean, but I think that was it.
I'm not sure, but I think that was it.
I don't know. I could be wrong.
Yeah. Y'all talking 40 years ago?
Yeah. Right.
Yeah. I ain't gonna say I ever did
drugs, but that was a long time ago, bro.
I just remember Juicy Joe would just give me bumps of cocaine
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there and then because you take the pants or shoes do a bump.
I swear you say balls and shoes do the bump.
And I'd say, OK, thanks. Or, or Jamie, Jamie, you
remember this going down the road.
Here's one for you, one for you,2 for me.
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Hey, listen, I, I even adopted that that day.
I adopted that kind of a that was Billy Travis, Billy.
Say bump the runner, a bump for Billy, a bump for Billy, a
bumper Billy, a bumper Billy, bumper Ronnie, bumper Jamie the
bumper Billy for Billy. And so we just watched Billy do
3 all morning. But I mean, he bought it.
So in fairness it was he is. I guess he's allowed to and I'm
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kind of adopted that. I adopted that with the Midget.
We'd be on the road with the Midget and I'd say hit for
Jamie. Yeah, I'd say we'd say he did it
then. Then I'd hit it.
I'd say one for the midge, one for Jamie, one for Jamie, one
for Jamie. I thought, yeah, no one for the
minute. Hit one for the minute.
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Dude, he get high. He called my mom and say James,
all my money, James, all my money.
Yeah. Can you talk to the pay phone
and tell? I mean.
Just say you match me a joint, you match me a joint.
Be like, no, you got two seasonsof STEM and that motherfucker
rolled. Hey, Riley, listen that to
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Canada. We were taking my buddy Mike
Anthony's Camaro back, me in themidge and we're driving into
Calgary, Canada. We're in Oklahoma.
I got a big bag of pot. Get up next morning.
What's my damn pot man? What's my pot man?
It makes like, I don't know. I got some joints at $5 each, I
go. What?
I got some joints at $5 each, I go.
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Maybe when you get joints, it's my weed.
We went rolled. He said.
He just rolled. We went rolled.
He said he just stole my bag of pot, rolled it down.
We'll try to sell them back to me the rest of the way to
Canada. What did you give me?
You never listened and shit at these girls bother to me.
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I go, what the hell? She said.
You don't know anybody. I know you, Mother.
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We we went on the road. We went on the road with bail
man. I think he was in sealing
Oklahoma. Yeah, we went to Oklahoma,
Montana, Oklahoma. Shit beating on the door.
He said something's wrong with me, What's wrong?
He said something's wrong, bad, something bad wrong with me.
I said, what's wrong? He.
Dropped, he dropped his hands, this little mug heard the crabs
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he was eating up. When he's up, it's just, Oh yes.
That's what he said. He said what kind of dirty
bitch? It's got bugs on it.
I said the only kind that would bang 2 midgets for 40 bucks, he
said. Makes sense.
That makes sense. Cousin Junior lost his beard in
that too, right? Yes, he did.
You know good. He come down there, he come down
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to the room, told me and Jenny come down here.
You got to see this. We walked down there man, and
this is no shit. Lanny, the cousin Junior was
laying on the bed and this girl had to weigh 550 lbs Dude, God
million big old girl. And cousin Junior weighed 400.
Yeah, well, the race, the referee ring announced, I don't
remember which one it was, and was screwing her from behind and
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Danny was playing this girl's big ass damn 88 D damn titties.
And then he was rotating them. And cousin Junior said if you
touch my balls one more time. Oh my goodness.
Oh, God, God, yeah. Former John that bitch gave
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everyone in crafts. Oh man, yeah, Lord have mercy.
The Del Man Wild West tours. So how many did y'all go on?
They're all of them, as many as he would let us.
He got some mad at me because I took like 2 lbs of pot with me
and sold it to everybody on the group.
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And you know they didn't pay $10.20 dollars, $5.
You know, me and Ronnie's the stars.
We got 50 bucks a night or better.
But he said who? The mother, damn weed.
He said these mother, they ate food in like a week because, you
know, they all owe me the 2015 dollars they got paid for the
weed that I fronted them the daybefore.
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And you had to buy your own food.
And you said these mother they need in weeks.
Jamie, goddamn. You ever bring weed on the store
again? Because I mean, I just brought a
pound of pot, sold it to them all.
It was great. I had all the money, the whole
toy. I got all the money.
Me and Ronnie living big. I don't know.
How many? I don't know how many trips we
took, man. I'm going to tell you we went
from Damn, what? What was that?
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Russellville, KY, or whatever the hell.
Jamestown, KY. Russellville.
Jamestown. Yeah, one, one trip was the
Dakotas. We've done north-south Dakota.
Hell, we went our way to Nevada with that thumb bitch.
Man, yeah, we, we, we. Wouldn't get Indian
reservations. We did a bunch of both Indian
reservations. Watched the black foot Indian
tribe put the boat in the chief and all kind of cool ass shit
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man it was a blast for real. That's awesome.
Yeah, no, it was fun. It was fun man.
Yeah, yeah, very cool. You don't know.
You don't know what it's like tobe the driver.
I'm driving Ronnie's in the passenger seat and the midgets
sitting on the cooler full of beard.
And we drive and and we're Ronnie get drunk.
So we take the midgets feet up with eight track tapes.
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We probably got take 8 tracks tothe midgets so he can drive the
van in Oklahoma. And it's got a big trying to
drive this big old huge van with15 people in it.
Dale Man's in the back, so you're rocking side to side
everywhere you went. Oh, it was a blast.
We just come back to South Dakota and I passed out.
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I woke up and the midgets sitting in Jamie's lap.
Jamie's passed out. The midgets driving down the
Interstate with the cruise control on it's.
So funny. Oh my gosh, that we might.
Have a good picture. The damn man would wait one time
the Midget slip the cigarette out the window and it blew back
in and it landed in the bed and back in the back of the van and
that damn man I had son of a bitch got him smacking and
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raising their little turn insidelight on.
He said no more smoking. So he we we banned from smoking
for like a 2 day deal because meand Ronnie said well we ain't
driving if we can't smoke so we just get it.
We sit in the back of the boat. He's like no we can't do OK.
Only Jamie and Ronnie are allowed to smoke on the floor
now. You know, the, the, the, the
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Midget done that a couple times.The Midget done that shit to
Brian Brown too, and burnt the whole back of his ear.
But I burnt that some bitch. Oh.
My gosh. Hey, and another thing, that old
man killed a man over at Midget.I've got the newspaper article
right here in that book where I was looking through the Midget
oldest guy. Listen to this shit.
The Midget oldest guy, $50.00 for a bag of weed in Jamestown
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and the guys weather was the referee for Dale Dale driving
the van. Dale Peterson.
Yeah, Dale Peterson was the guys.
That's right. Did the and this and Dale Man's
driving the van. Dale Peterson in the van, Dale
producer's brother runs up to the van and jumps on the running
board on the side of the van andputs up knives to Dale Man's
throat and says, I'm like Billy the Kid, mother.
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I'm going to cut your guts out. You're going to pay me my money
for your Midget. Dale Man pull the pistol out and
shot him, blew him right off theside of the van while the dude's
brother's in the van and said, yeah, you're like Billy the Kid,
you're dead. And the dude's brother was in
the van. The dude's brother testified on
Dale's behalf. And his brother ran up and tried
to cut Dale's boat and they all got Scott free.
They all just waited for the police with the gun get rid of
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the car, waited for the cops to come and arrest him, got right
out jumped the fence or whateverthey called him and the kids
brother sitting in the van watchhis brother and the guy get shot
off man over it you know and 50 bucks.
And that dude, that dude, that dude never quit working for
Dale, man. No, he never.
He never did. That dude.
That man killed his brother and he still he even when Dale got
out of wrestle. That dude even worked on Dale's
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houses and farm and shit. Yes, he did.
Yes, he did. Look here when we very first,
when we very first got. I don't remember how we got
hooked up with Dale, man. I don't know how I don't.
I don't. I don't remember it either.
Billy Travis, maybe. Maybe because Billy started with
Dale, remember. Yeah.
This this Dale. Dale was a big wig in this
little town, this little town. You talk about some inbred some
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bitches from Kentucky brother. You talk about backwoods,
especially for us to those Hendersonville, Nashville boys.
We really thought we was in in the Deliverance movie.
They might have eyes. Well, they they.
They own the gym like a go to the gym deal in the in the
middle of Jamestown, right on the square.
Well, upstairs he had about, I don't know, 10 rooms, man.
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Like like motel rooms upstairs. That's where all the boys stay.
We pull into this town, dude. I will never forget it.
Dude, here comes this top down the road.
I thought Oh my God it's Barney 5 though this some bitch.
You get a 4 door Gray and black,You bet.
With a Big Blue light on top when you pull out.
Stick on top when you want to. What the freaking hell?
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I don't know. We've been there a couple weeks,
you know, running these little towns of Dale, man.
And it was, it was nothing but one big freaking party, man.
One night I wake up. I hear all this commotion, man.
I wake up. I look at the door in the
hallway. The Midget Danny, dude is
standing up in the window with his damn Dick out.
Dude out the window at this top.This cop was downstairs, dude.
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He was going. Danny, you can't do that.
Danny's trying to piss on from the second door.
He was up on the 2nd floor. He's just pissing all over
something. Yeah, yeah.
Oh my gosh. Dale man, he had a lot of pool
in that town. I mean for real man that he
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Russell Springs, Jamestown, KY area.
Dale man was he was a big time. You know, he was a wrestler with
the ICW, you know, with the the pop was not in back in the day
and shit, whatever. But but he became a a cattle
rancher. He had a cow business, millions
$1,000,000 milk cow business or something.
Ended up selling it all up. And how many?
How many wives and kids did he have?
Ronnie, this is no bullshit. Oh my God, he made he made Jamie
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look like a St. I'm not kidding.
His last wife was like his 25th wife or something When he died
and he was like 78. She was like 19.
I'm not exactly like I'm not good.
Hey, who? Jamie.
Jamie. Who was?
Who was? Jeff Connor's daughter was one
of them. Chuck Connor.
That's who I was trying to thinkof.
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Hell, he had three or four. Yeah, yeah, that was, it was
Chuck Connor. He had as many kids as they are.
They they compete and see how many wives and kids they could
have. They marry each other's
daughters and all kind of shit. When did you get in on it,
Jamie? I got in on it when Ronnie
booked me there. I'm.
Just kidding. Now listen, listen there,
there's not one time that that ten of us get get in the van
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that that we didn't go down the road sideways because somebody's
in the bed. I don't care who was driving it.
It was like the only couples like stayed in the I don't know
what he called us. We was a travelling gypsy fest.
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There's been so many, but this one with Ronnie is for sure near
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with his family on a vacation inCanada.
So yeah, but never fear, as always we have our territory
wrestling guru and Co host with the MO host Quentin Charisma.
What's up Quentin? How you doing buddy?
I'm doing good. How you doing, Jimmy?
Doing all right, man, Just, you know, just doing the thing here,
getting ready for a big show today.
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I've got some things lined up, alittle surprise for our guest
today, and I guess we can go ahead and say it.
Ronnie Travis is our guest today.
I'm excited about that one. What about you?
Oh yeah, I'm definitely, it's been, oh gosh, I've thousand
like 20 years since I've talked to Ronnie.
But actually, it's been more than that.
Like 97. OK.
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Yeah, he's like my talk to him. So is that 25?
Rough. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Ronnie Travis, now obviously we know that his former tag team
partner is also, you know, part of the Rock'n'roll Dream Team
tag team. And Jamie Dundee, I know he's
got some stories for us there, but you never know what we're
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going to pull out of our sleeve,right, Quentin?
I never know, that's why I got to listen.
That's right, you got to listen.I think I'm very excited about
this one, mainly because I've heard this gentleman's name so
many times, but I've never met him.
I feel like I've met him. I've heard Ben Jordan, Jamie
Dundee. I've heard so many great people
talk about him, but I don't knowhim.
So I'm excited to get to know him, man.
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It'll be cool. Oh yeah, most definitely.
When did you first meet Ronnie? I met Ronnie in I want to say
January of 93 that are 92 ish orDecember of 92 running that time
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period. Chris Champion brought him in
and lived to Lewisburg, TN and Iworked I worked in a few times
that when he first when Chris Chris first brought him in.
But I used to remember seeing him back, you know, years and go
before that at the national fairgrounds and you know, when
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we're all teenagers, you know, Iremember seeing him.
I've never seen him in because Iwas like because he had that
long hair and I was like, if youhad his boots, had his jeans
tucked in his boots and wearing his how you sweatshirt, And I
was like, who's this guy thinks he?
Jamie Lane from Warrant. It kind of reminds me of a
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little bit. Yeah, Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Kind of has that, yeah.
Especially his younger pictures.He kind of has that.
Like, you know, Jamie Lane from Warrant, look about him a little
bit. Yeah, as he got older, he
changed a little bit. But, you know, But anyway, I'm
excited to get him on. You ready to do it, Quentin?
Oh yeah, let's do it. All right, we'll be right back
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from Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling and guys, I think
we've performed a bit of a miracle today.
I think we really have. Not only has Ben Jordan, our
great friend and great buddy andformer guest of the show, done
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us a super solid, but we have found a man that didn't want to
be found. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd love
to welcome the one and only Ronnie Travis.
Ronnie, welcome to the show, brother.
Thank you, guys. Thank you.
Glad to be here. Glad to have you man.
Now, is that true? You maybe didn't want to be
found, but we still found you. I could be brother, I'm not
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sure. I'm just old kick back like
everybody else, man, Like Jamie,Ben, the rest of them, man.
I'm just here out in Henrietta, TN, man, sitting on my little
farm. I'm a little pond, the backyard
and all the kids are raising. I'm raising grandkids now, man
How? Many you got, brother.
I got 5 kids and 9 grandkids. Wow, wow. 5 kids.
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Yeah. I ain't got as many.
I ain't got as many as Jamie that these guys, but.
Well, and you know about all yours, that's the one thing I
think, right? Well, and I yeah, yeah, that's
true. That's true.
Just kidding, Jamie, man, we love him to death.
But yeah, we definitely specially got to thank our buddy
Ben Jordan for making this show happen today.
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Because, you know, a couple, couple shows ago we had little
Farmer John on and we've been wanting to get you on anyway.
And he brings your name up and then I'm talking to Ben.
And I was like, Ben, do you think Ronnie will do it?
And he's like, yeah, I'll talk to him.
Let me talk to him. And sure enough, being Jordan,
we thank you, Sir, for helping Ronnie make it to the podcast.
But first of all, we just want to thank you, Ronnie.
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So we always start every show out with the Sheik's favorite
question. Sheik.
Take this one. All right, Ronnie, so this this
question is going to give us a insight to your your wrestling
like what inspired you anything like that And it's going to let
the listeners know as well. But if you had like a Mount
Rushmore, like four or five wrestlers that either inspired
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you, you like to watch or you like working with whatever, who
those guys be. Man, I can remember as a little
kid in the living room floor wrestling with the pillow and,
and, and I always love Dutch Mantel, that that was my guy.
Dutch was my guy. That's awesome, yeah.
You know, and then there was always Bill Dundee, you know, I,
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I love Billy to death and Jamie and, and actually Jamie and Bill
and his mom of Beverly, they alllived right down the road from
my grandparents with me growing up.
Cool. So, so Bill was always there,
you know, and, and, and it was always the Memphis TV because
that's what we got in Nashville.Yeah.
You know, and and Lawler was theking.
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You know, Lawler was always the king.
But I would say if I and then, you know, I put Jimmy answer,
Jimmy Valiant in there too. I love Jimmy to death.
I would say I was probably my top 4.
That's a great one, man. Yeah.
Great list, man. Yeah.
Yeah. So when we always go into, you
know, the start of the show, we talk about who maybe inspired
you, but now we like to turn it around and come back to you,
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man. So this may open up a whole
other conversation here, but I like it.
So tell us about where you were born, man.
Tell us about your younger days,like, where'd you start out and
all that good stuff. Nashville, TN Yeah.
Born, born and raised right herein Nashville, TN, man.
And like I say, I I wrestled allthrough school and done all that
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and it was, it was just Saturdaymorning wrestling man.
Everybody was in the Saturday and you didn't miss Saturday
morning TV. Yeah, yeah.
Do you remember about when you started liking it?
Man, I, I don't, but I can tell you this like I can.
I cannot remember ever not liking it.
You know, it was just always something that was there.
Yeah, yeah. Something that was always on.
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Yeah, that's awesome. Always, man.
Never, never miss Saturday morning wrestling.
Never miss Memphis TV, which back then that's all we got.
You know, you didn't have the, you didn't have everything else
that goes on now. You couldn't turn wrestling on
five nights and we can get wrestling.
Yeah, now where did you go to school at?
I went to school in Gulfall, Gulfall, Tennessee.
Okay, okay. And when was?
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High school. And when was it you came across
Jamie Dundee? Brother, I, I'm going to tell
you, man, I, I think me and Jamie's path crossed.
We've talked about this before, years before we ever started
really hanging out because like I said, his parents lived over
in beautiful and my grandparentslived there, which I did too,
but they was in the same subdivision.
So I know we played together as kids because all, you know, how
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they all do. But I'm going to tell you a
really funny story, man, that wewas at Game Land.
And. We was probably about, I don't
know, 14-13, fourteen years old,maybe 15 on a Friday night.
And I'm shooting pool with a bunch of the guys and, and we're
having these conversations, the wrestling, you know, we're all
talking about wrestling, blah, blah, blah.
And I said, I said, I said, you know, I don't know if any of
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y'all know or not, but Bill Dundee's got a son named Jamie
Dundee. I kicked Jamie Dundee's ass.
And. This guy across the pool table
from me says you never cooked Jamie Dundee's ass.
I said I did kick Jamie Dundee'sass, he said.
I am Jamie Dundee and you never kick my ass.
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And, and dude, ever, ever since then, I mean, me and me, that
guy ran the roads for thousands and thousands of miles.
Yeah, yeah. And so what's really cool is
Jamie told me a story. I've had him.
I'm I'm the Co host of Wolfie DSpodcast.
And so we've had Jamie on here. We've had Jamie on that show
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several times. But Jamie always said that you
were the guy, that all all through his days in school, kids
would always come up to him, say, yeah, your dad's Bill
Dundee, I'm gonna be a wrestler and we're gonna be A tag team
just like your dad, you know? And Jamie always gives you props
and credit for being the one dude that actually did it, you
know? So.
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Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, we did, man. I mean, me and Jamie, like I
said, we run the roads for a lotof miles.
And then you know how the wrestling business is, brother,
you just, we've done it. We always thought we'd be the
next, you know, the next Rd. Warriors, the next whatever.
And our past just took it went separate, you know, and he and
he met up with Wolfie and I'm glad to see all the success they
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had, man. It was great, great.
And and I love Whoopi to death, you know, and I'm glad it went
that way because I know how a lot of people, you know, I don't
like this guy no more because heleft me.
He did this. And you know, I wrestled for
many years, man, full time. Never went to New York, never
did nothing like that. But man made a living out of
this business for many, many years.
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Man till he just died. Yeah, yeah.
All right, Ronnie, my my first question is how'd you get
started in wrestling train with,you know, and all that stuff,
you know, the training part, so.Well, builder, they builder,
They had a wrestling school in Gallatin, TN and me and Jamie
used to go up there and mess around, play around, and then it
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was out the fairgrounds for a while.
We'd go out there and it wasn't really training, man.
It was more into the just playing around, you know, it was
fun. You know, we got in the ring and
we wouldn't, 1718 years old, gotin there and played around
everything and then got a littleserious with it.
And I ended up actually trainingwith the Cuban Assassin, which,
and there was 2 Samoans and I don't know whether you remember
(11:51):
them or not. They wasn't in, they wasn't at
the Memphis territory too awful long, but it was high and
tampoo. OK, yeah.
And OK. And I ended up, I ended up
training off of West End down inNashville.
And Candy Divine's ring is whereI actually stayed.
I actually trained there. But I tell you, Mary, it's it's
really funny because I used to watch Tojo Yamamoto beat the
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hell out of them guys, man, withthat damn kendo stick at down
there. I never got beat with it.
But boy, Sarah used to watch himbeat the shit out of them poor
dudes, man. And knowing damn good and well
they were never going to make inthe wrestling business man.
But boy told Joe had a good timebeating the shit out of them
though, I can tell you that. Oh, wait, that's funny.
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Yeah. So when you you talk about
Gallatin, when y'all was up there, it was Ben Jordan up
there training with, with Bill. Ben, Ben did come up there and
train and that that was that wasright around the area that Todd
Morton. I don't know if you guys know
Todd Morton, but Todd Morton wastraining at that time too.
I remember that time period whenI remember when we, when Jimmy
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interviewed Ben, he was talking about that.
So y'all, so that's when y'all was up.
So all y'all were all connected man.
Pretty much, man, I'll tell you something funny.
I love being to death, man. I've never met anybody that does
not talk good about being Jordan, man.
And, and I thank God every day that he's still with us.
And, and, and, you know, like I say, man, Ben is just such a
good guy, man. And I hate to see what he's
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going through right now, but I see Ben, I run into Ben every
once in a while, man, whether it's we're at the Mexican
restaurant or whether we're, youknow, shopping or whatever.
Him and his wife and me and my wife, it seems like we crossed
paths quite a bit. But man, we used to make so much
fun fun of Ben Jordan because Ben's a little older than we
are. And you know, we was all hell
raising, man. We did.
It was sex, drugs and rock and roll back in them days, man.
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And then and poor Ben didn't do nothing and drink a little beer
and man, we made so much fun of him, dude.
And just, you're just an old man, dude.
Why are you doing this now? You're older as shit, man.
You know, Ben'll be like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, look at y'all.
I'll be like, no, dude, you're old.
We've been there for probably five years older than we are.
But man, we used to make fun of him doing the dressing room.
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Oh man, I love you, Ben. Man, you got to love Ben and you
got to love Lawanda. Man, she's, she's such a good
person. Too.
Oh yeah, Lawanda's great. She's awesome.
She'll kick somebody's butt in aminute.
Yeah. Just back bed around quick too,
I'm here to tell you. Yeah, yeah, I've seen it
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actually. Ronnie, tell us about your first
match and like what promotion orwhatever that might have been
for. I don't know how this ever came
about. And I think Bill Dundee actually
got, he gave me, I think he gaveme this guy's number man.
And if it wasn't, if it wasn't Bill, it was JD Wolf.
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Do y'all remember JD Wolf? Oh.
Yeah. Oh yeah, OK.
And it was in a it was in Athens, AL for a guy named
Wallace Alvin Wallace. Alvin Wallace, Yeah.
Yep. And and I, and I, and I guess I
don't couldn't even tell you whoI wrestled, man, to have no
worthy idea. But I wrestled down there for
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two or three months in this little building, man.
It was so small that you can barely take a backdrop.
I mean, dude, it was like a garage building or whatever,
man. But I would wrestle down there
for probably about two or three months.
And I called Jamie and I said, Jamie, I got, man, you got to
come down here, dude, this placeis great.
I said, dude, I am doing. I said, dude, there ain't 100
people in this building and I'm freaking doing.
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I said I swear to God I'm doing $250 a night in gimmicks.
Dang man. He's like, oh, man, we got man,
I got over so good down. He was like, what?
I swear to God that you can't bring enough shit down here to
sell. Yeah, he came down there and we
wrestled down there, man. I don't know, man.
Every Saturday night for six months, 8 months.
And there was no, we had $500 nights down there, man.
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We packed that building. I, I think one night, dude,
Alvin told me we had 250 people in that building, dude.
I mean, it was just, it was people would pay to stand in
that building. Yeah, wow.
I'm. Going to tell you we was the
only we was the only tag team toever taken that taken.
But this is no damn lie bro. You can ask Jamie next time you
talk to him, but we was the onlytwo people to ever take a damn
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Well, you know what? It's so funny.
We actually, this wasn't planned, but there's actually
someone. Hold on from parts unknown, we
welcome the Blue Cyclone to the show.
Well, my wife on that attack about a year or so back left me
at home by myself to batching after five straight nights of
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TVI was ready to scream. I called up the beard with the
party of mine. I said, Ronnie, I ain't having a
real good time. He said, why don't we go to the
wrestling matches and let off a little steam?
Well, I've never seen the matches before.
When we reach out arena door, the crowd was already backed up
Plumb out in the street. Yeah, they pushing each other
like cattle, just getting in line with a hell of a battle.
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We had to fight like the devil, but we finally got ringside
seats. Ronnie Gale.
What are you doing, Jamie Caird?I am going back to Athens, AL in
a limousine with the Rock'n'rollDream Team.
And, and then I'm telling y'all he's not bullshitting.
I told y'all Ronnie got me my first book.
And that's where it was for Alvin Wallace in Athens, AL.
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And he ain't lying. We were, we were over, man.
We didn't know whatever meant, but we were over and we packed
that building in for for like hesaid, a year straight and this
is no shit that that show would not end until 2/3.
Sometimes 4:00 in the morning. I'm not exaggerating. 4:00 in
the morning. And Alvin would say they get mad
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if you send them home before they eat breakfast and that is
no shit. That's that's the honest guy's
truth that somebody started 7:00or 7:30 and I've seen, I've seen
main event go in the frame at 1:30 in the morning.
That's I ain't kidding man. And listen to album.
I say, Alvin, why do you have 15matches each say?
Because the people are getting mad if you send them home before
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they eat breakfast. And I say, well, I don't know
how they do. It happens to Alabama, but
everybody else I know would havewent home about 9:30.
That's one place that you could do a double shot and never miss
a damn beat, man. Yeah, never.
We would work in Nashville main event that that's right, work in
Nashville main event leaving there at 10:00 and be in Athens
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about 12 and still make the mainevent there.
Yes, you could. That ain't no bullshit.
That's awesome, that's awesome. So we just wanted to get you 2
guys together since we're all Big Rock'n'roll Dream Team fans
and we just want to hear some stories with you 2 together real
quick so Jamie and I. Don't hear good stories about
the Rock'n'roll Dream Team, but it was all Ronnie doing the the
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bad shit. Yeah, wasn't he doing shit?
The the the number, the number one fan, The number one fan of
the Rock and Dre Roll Dream Teamwas Tracy Smothers.
Oh dude, wasn't he wasn't he? Tracy smothers a rock roll dream
team Baby, don't fight. He he even wore on a WCWTV
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taping show on an interview if he and Rodney was popping like a
champ, man. We thought that was the greatest
shit. Tracy smothers the wild eyes
Southern boys wearing Rest in Peace Brother is wearing a
Rock'n'roll Dream Team hat on the WCW show on Saturday night
main event. That was huge, man.
It was. Me and Jamie thought we were the
greatest thing since Hogan. We were.
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We didn't know it. We didn't have a damn clue,
brother, I can tell you that right now.
Didn't have a clue but we had a whole lot of fun bro.
And we went up and down there bro, 'cause you got to people
got to remember for real, man. There was no Bluetooth, there
was no telephones, there was no Internet, there was not shit.
You just got in your car and we had the world's greatest tape
collection. I ain't shitting you, man.
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We had, I had a you go. Y'all remember?
You know what a you go. You mean the only vehicle?
OK, well my brother-in-law bought a bought a you go and he
gave it to me and me and Ronnie took a you go on the road.
And listen, bro, you put $1.50 in that summer vision driving
California to North Carolina. Listen, we, we, we, we made, we
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made good money too, but we didn't spend it on gas.
We drove that little car everywhere.
We had the world's greatest tapecollection.
I bet we had three to 500 tapes,you know, cassette tapes that
went in the radio. Because you know, back then
there was when you, when you drove down the Interstate, the
radio stations would go out because you're leaving the town
and the area. And then you wouldn't be able to
pick nothing up. And then finally you pick
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another one up and then you drive another 50 miles and the
radio glad it sucked compared tonow for damn sure.
So man, we had the world's greatest tape collection and we
would just ride around wrestlingevery Thursday, Friday, Saturday
and Sunday singing the singing David Allen Coe and the and the
blue Cyclone. Somebody stole it there.
Somebody stole it there collection in Athens, AL.
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They sure did. They broke in our car and stole
our whole tape collection. Man, I they could, they could
have pawned it. They could have pawned at the
pawn shop for $500 I thinking. Oh.
Man, they sure. Did.
That ain't right. That ain't right.
I am going to tell you this thatwe was in Evansville, IN and
this is no shit. We had no gas in that damn you
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go. We dug up all the chains we had.
We put $1.27 in that thumb bitchand made it back to NASA.
That's a true story. 165 miles on $1.27 gas was only. $0.89 a
gallon. Still it was a gallon and 1/2
that. Mother went all the way to
Nashville. Bro went to older Blvd. exit.
We ran out of gas and old man picked us up drinking a beer and
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said old man said I ain't got enough for $5 in this beard
y'all can have a sip of it but I'm keeping them a $5.
We ran out of gas one time. Me and Ronnie was underneath the
overpass in Evansville where youcircle around coming to and
anyway and everywhere you had tocircle around from the the one
that you Hwy. 65 or 9 or whatever and jump on the penny
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rail Parkway and we did have andthis we were up to the thing
pissing me and Ronnie were pissing under the overpass and
the cop pulled up. He says no shit.
He said you boys had that you said you boys been drinking.
We said yes Sir. 12 pack of beerand 2 bottles of wine started
laughing while his wind up droveoff.
But that's what I got is when wereally had drank that ain't no
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good man. We told him what we been
drinking, he drove off and I swear to God that everything
that is what we had to drink. Yeah, so whose idea was the name
of the tag team? Man, I, I, I don't remember,
Ronnie, you remember, I knew because the right feedback to be
in the Rock and Rolling Place was hot.
And then the Midnight Rockers were hot.
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And so about that time I did. So I, I don't really remember
how we came about. I know Ronnie kept all the money
because his family owned the printing company.
So he printed our name on everything you could think of.
It was nothing our name wasn't printed on and we didn't sell,
but it come to think of Ronnie, you owe me some money.
I don't know. I don't know who came over the
name either. I was probably one of them.
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Drunken nice dude or on some other drugs.
Who the hell knows back then, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, some other drug. Ronnie did.
Not me, but Ronnie did. Yeah, right.
I don't know, man. That's just a hell of a
question. I've never really been asked
that, but I don't. I don't remember where the name
came from. I couldn't tell you, but.
But it was a hell of a name. It got over like hell with
Tracy's mothers anyway. Yeah.
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And and apparently hated it though.
Well, yeah, yeah, I, I don't know if it was Jeff Jarrett
hated it or me because he hated me at the very beginning when we
first started it. Shitty.
Matter of fact, I had a flat tire one time he pulled up, he
on the road to wind and he goes,I hate you.
And I go, oh, good to see you too, Jeff.
I got a flat tire. He goes, I know.
That's why I stopped. And Frank Murrell was driving.
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He goes, I hate you, man. And Speaking of Frank Murrell,
you remember that rib? What's that?
Yeah. That Ronnie, you remember that
rib I we did only when I had himbring me to your house.
Yeah, yeah. Listen.
I was riding back with Flame Morel one time and for Flame
Morel to drive me to Ronnie's house and back was going to be
like 40 minutes out of his way, you know?
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I mean, 20 minutes there and 20 minutes back.
So he says, you got any weed? I think this is actually when
Jeff Garrett, when I got over with Jeff Garrett, he he said,
if you give me a couple of joints, I'll take you to
Ronnie's. And I said, OK, so I call
Ronnie, you know, and I rememberno cell phones or nothing.
I stop, we stop at the page and I get out on the pay phone and I
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call Ronnie's out and Ronnie, Angela go, hey man, got any
weed? He goes, man, I ain't got no
weed. I go, well, listen, roll up two
cigarettes, but you know, put them in the papers, bust them up
and roll them up and make them look good.
And I'm going to get Frank to bring me your, we're just going
to get Frankie's cigarettes rolled up like it's weed and he
won't know till they get down the road.
So, and if anybody listen, you don't smoke cigarettes and
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you've got something like a joint.
It was and something the greatest part is, and he saved
those two joints as listen, he drove me all that way to
Ronnie's and I came out. They were beautiful too.
Ronnie rolled them up big and beautiful.
I headed them to Frankie's Frank's like brother.
Thank you, brother. I love you man.
Thank you brother. So he drives, he drives home and
he doesn't smoke them. He waits till the next day when
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he gets in the car with Jeff, Jim, Jared.
So and now he's going to drive Jeff to whatever town they're
going through. Jeff, I think this is when I got
over with Jeff said Frank lick that big.
He said, look at these two big doobies or whatever he called
him. He said look at these Jeff.
These are great. He said he cracked that wind and
he licked. He said he didn't lick that
first one. He like I said, he said shot
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through his body and split fall down his head and he said he
started coughing so hard and Jimsaid why are you Frank?
He said no, ain't no way that look.
He said Frank hit it again. He said, damn indeed, take a
rest that mother he drive 40 miles for two cigarettes him and
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that party. And I think that is the moment
that Jeff Jared said Jamie, that's great shit I've ever
heard. He said Jamie, I was watching
fire shot through his body turned instantly red.
Sweat was on his face and his eyeballs turned bright red on
the inside and said he looked atme and said no, no way.
He said and he hit it again and then he said, and I believe
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that's the moment Jeff, Jerry, Igot back over with Jeff, I think
was that moment right there. Me and Ronnie, we, we got it bad
though. Charged me two joints to drive
me 20 minutes. You buddy, I'm Bill Boy.
You don't do it to Bill Boy. Yeah, that's hilarious.
Oh my gosh, what a legendary. Man, it was it was either that
or we saw more genies in the back parking lot of Evansville,
IN and Jeff and they were selling this film.
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Yeah. That's what he said.
He asked me about that before and I said, yeah, Jeff actually
said, listen, you work for the company so you boys can't be
selling gimmicks in this buildings.
So that I said I sent me and Ronnie that out.
We go to all the Marks and they was like, where did your
pictures were like, listen, Jeffsaid we couldn't sell it 'cause
we don't work for the company. So you'll have to meet us in the
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alleys and we sat with the limo doors open, one Ronnie on the
left side of me on the right, wehustling the shit out of him.
Get me throwing the money right in the middle of the limousine
floor. Having a hell of a time, man, it
was great. I loved it.
And if I could go back to you and that's that's what I would
go back to the good old days because that's when you did this
shit because you loved it, not because the politics and the
money and all that shit. You just did it because you
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wanted to do it, you know? Yeah, yeah, definitely,
definitely, definitely. All right, I always heard this
rumor that one day Jamie and Ronnie y'all rated Bills Closet
and took all kinds of his deer and and that's where Ronnie got
those star boots. Is that true?
That is true. Yeah, that's 100%.
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But we didn't rate it. He just, my mom had left him so
he was running around with some hooker or something somewhere,
some, some, some chick with him 40 years younger.
And me and Ronnie would just be at the house and we had to
wrestle. So what better than Bill
Dundee's shit laying in there? It was good shit.
So we just went in there and then he didn't wear them like
most of the shit he didn't wear anymore And shit, the teeny
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llama boots, they were them cowboy boots.
It looked like tennis shoes on the bottom.
He had three pairs of those in there.
So I figured, well, me, I'm one,Ronnie's two and Bill's 3.
So there was still a pair for him and then and and all the
types of shit he had like he hadwhen he switched heel on Lawler
back in the 80s, he got them that they were like spandex vest
with studs all over him. You know, that he wore, they
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were cut off Swedes and they matched.
And so he had a blue one and a white one and a black one and a
rare, you know, because he stillwanted to stay with the kind of
the jumpsuit. And so me and Ronnie just
adopted. We just took them and put them
in our bags. And it was like 2 years later,
Bill said, are y'all? Is that all my shit you boys are
wearing? And look here, Jamie, I want to
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tell you something funny. You know the video you sent me
of the wrestling's? Yes, yes.
There's 2 outfits, two we took out of Bill's clothes.
OK, OK. If you look at them outfits, I
don't know if Jamie's got that video, but if you look at them 2
outfits that came out of Bill's.Why?
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Why would we buy gear? We were too many buying beer and
cocaine or whatever else came along.
Yeah, we don't want to buy gear.We didn't really want to
wrestle. We just went because there's a
lot of women and a lot of money.Let's say some horror stories in
that house. But that was me and Jamie's
Playboy mansion, man, that, thatwas just man.
But listen, my daddy, my Mama left my daddy, but my daddy
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still had to go on the road, right?
So me and Ronnie would just go out to the hot tub.
That brother, we had to. We had it going on bro.
And then then Bill kind of rude because he moved Dustin Rose and
Hanson Jimmy and a couple of other wrestlers in.
So there was always somebody else there with us.
But but at the beginning it was just me and Ronnie in these big
old houses and Bill be gone on Mondays and Tuesdays and
Wednesdays and shit. We had a lot of fun in that
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house. Well, Ronnie, did I just read
the Bible and maybe, you know. Here's your good one Jimmy.
First time I went and stayed with Jamie Dundee.
Yeah, listen to this story. 1617years old OK, we're we're in the
bed. We go to bed we're sleeping.
I wake up I hear somebody come in the house.
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Well me and Jamie is in the samebed right we're there sleeping.
This mother flames the door open.
Dude. I think he kicked the mother
because it come flying over his new wall.
I mean just damn. I look I sit straight up in the
bed and Bill said Jamie kick your ass up and I was like Oh my
God. So I pushed the hell out of
Jamie. Like, man, you better kick up,
man, right now, dude, this motherfucks.
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Sure, he said. I'm going to paint right now.
Beat your ass up, mow the grass.Stop that before I get back this
mother, please. I'm thinking, Oh my God, man,
Jamie, get up. Get the fuck, dude.
Kill us. Get old, mother.
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Yeah, I was. I was scared to bed, Jimmy.
I mean, I was terrified, man, because I only ever seen Bill.
Probably ever seen Bill on TV. You don't have the perception
that you get. Come on.
God, dude, I can do. Come on, man.
We got to get up, mow the grass,clean the dog, pens out.
Motherfucker never got out of bed, that mother man.
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If the rod you know I'll stop texting give me a few stories
and I tell you you remember thattime he'd come home and he's
raging. He said your mother stole my
cocaine, you son of a bitch. Y'all stole my coke.
Get out of my house you thievingmother.
Get up out of my house. And this is so me and Ronnie
jumping our little we go becauseit was a you go but we put two
more doors and made it the we go.
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Then we jumped in the window andwe going down the road and I
said Ronnie, did you get that coke man?
He said Jamie, I swear I didn't get that coke bro and I said I
didn't either man. I said full of shit or something
man. So what we did was we let him
and Jimmy Valiant, Dustin Rhodesand then leave the house and
they all went on the road to Memphis Rd.
So we we go back to the house and because bills so short, he
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said I put that shit right here on this second shelf and this
little silver cup. But then when he poured the cup
upside down, there was nothing and you mother y'all the dope
stealing. They throw this out and we go
back. We went back to the house.
We get up. I get up on the counter on the
on the kitchen counter there andI look on the third shelf
because Bill's so short, he couldn't reach the third shelf.
I guess, you know, he had the new he put on, but then the
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third shelf was a silver cup andit was full of gold.
OK, I go look at you know, Ronnie at done the cubes.
Let's do it, bro. We pour it out.
We didn't get it all, we do it all and then we told him about
it a few years later was hey, you know, you get remember,
Remember Me Ronnie and put doingyour cocaine and we didn't do it
till after you accused us because we'd already been
accused. So we did it.
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You mean you mean Ronnie did it right, Jamie?
You don't mean you did? It and then I just go back to my
room and start reading the Bibleagain.
Yeah, yeah. Talking to your friends?
Yeah. Ronnie, Jamie, So y'all had a
match against the Interns and Dr. Squash?
Where was that at? Where was that Ronnie?
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Is that cool breeze? No, it was Bubba.
Pierre, Doctor Squash. That's right.
Sure enough, Sunny St. And my daddy trained them,
right? Yeah, yes, yeah.
Matter of fact, I just got that video from Bubba.
From Bubba. The other day.
I thought I sent it to you too, but I maybe didn't.
Sorry about that, but. No brother, babe sent it to me
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the other day and said look at this video.
I said I'll be. Damn man, look at that, I said.
It's a blast from the past. Do you know where that was by
chance or? And I think that was
Murfreesboro, TN or something like that, I think.
OK. No, no.
What was the guy's name that ranoutside of Gallatin, TN?
What was his name? Who ran Terry Rice?
Terry Jerry Rice. Maybe, yeah, maybe they, they
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ran outside of me of Gallatin, the I can't remember the little
town right out there. I only worked for him a couple
of times. Hartsville.
Hartsville. That's him.
What was his name? Oh.
I have no idea. That's remember.
That's remember Doodel? Was it Doodle?
No, he wasn't running it then. OK, gotcha.
I thought the guy's name was Teddy Hart.
Maybe. Would that be right?
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Does that sound like familiar? I mean, but I think that was it.
I'm not sure, but I think that was it.
I don't know. I could be wrong.
Yeah. Y'all talking 40 years ago?
Yeah. Right.
Yeah. I ain't gonna say I ever did
drugs, but that was a long time ago, bro.
I just remember Juicy Joe would just give me bumps of cocaine
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there and then because you take the pants or shoes do a bump.
I swear you say balls and shoes do the bump.
And I'd say, OK, thanks. Or, or Jamie, Jamie, you
remember this going down the road.
Here's one for you, one for you,2 for me.
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Hey, listen, I, I even adopted that that day.
I adopted that kind of a that was Billy Travis, Billy.
Say bump the runner, a bump for Billy, a bump for Billy, a
bumper Billy, a bumper Billy, bumper Ronnie, bumper Jamie the
bumper Billy for Billy. And so we just watched Billy do
3 all morning. But I mean, he bought it.
So in fairness it was he is. I guess he's allowed to and I'm
(36:00):
kind of adopted that. I adopted that with the Midget.
We'd be on the road with the Midget and I'd say hit for
Jamie. Yeah, I'd say we'd say he did it
then. Then I'd hit it.
I'd say one for the midge, one for Jamie, one for Jamie, one
for Jamie. I thought, yeah, no one for the
minute. Hit one for the minute.
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Dude, he get high. He called my mom and say James,
all my money, James, all my money.
Yeah. Can you talk to the pay phone
and tell? I mean.
Just say you match me a joint, you match me a joint.
Be like, no, you got two seasonsof STEM and that motherfucker
rolled. Hey, Riley, listen that to
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Canada. We were taking my buddy Mike
Anthony's Camaro back, me in themidge and we're driving into
Calgary, Canada. We're in Oklahoma.
I got a big bag of pot. Get up next morning.
What's my damn pot man? What's my pot man?
It makes like, I don't know. I got some joints at $5 each, I
go. What?
I got some joints at $5 each, I go.
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Maybe when you get joints, it's my weed.
We went rolled. He said.
He just rolled. We went rolled.
He said he just stole my bag of pot, rolled it down.
We'll try to sell them back to me the rest of the way to
Canada. What did you give me?
You never listened and shit at these girls bother to me.
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I go, what the hell? She said.
You don't know anybody. I know you, Mother.
You're listening to Give Me BackMy prayer wrestling, and we'll
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7:00. Jimmy, look here.
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We we went on the road. We went on the road with bail
man. I think he was in sealing
Oklahoma. Yeah, we went to Oklahoma,
Montana, Oklahoma. Shit beating on the door.
He said something's wrong with me, What's wrong?
He said something's wrong, bad, something bad wrong with me.
I said, what's wrong? He.
Dropped, he dropped his hands, this little mug heard the crabs
(39:00):
he was eating up. When he's up, it's just, Oh yes.
That's what he said. He said what kind of dirty
bitch? It's got bugs on it.
I said the only kind that would bang 2 midgets for 40 bucks, he
said. Makes sense.
That makes sense. Cousin Junior lost his beard in
that too, right? Yes, he did.
You know good. He come down there, he come down
(39:23):
to the room, told me and Jenny come down here.
You got to see this. We walked down there man, and
this is no shit. Lanny, the cousin Junior was
laying on the bed and this girl had to weigh 550 lbs Dude, God
million big old girl. And cousin Junior weighed 400.
Yeah, well, the race, the referee ring announced, I don't
remember which one it was, and was screwing her from behind and
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Danny was playing this girl's big ass damn 88 D damn titties.
And then he was rotating them. And cousin Junior said if you
touch my balls one more time. Oh my goodness.
Oh, God, God, yeah. Former John that bitch gave
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everyone in crafts. Oh man, yeah, Lord have mercy.
The Del Man Wild West tours. So how many did y'all go on?
They're all of them, as many as he would let us.
He got some mad at me because I took like 2 lbs of pot with me
and sold it to everybody on the group.
(40:28):
And you know they didn't pay $10.20 dollars, $5.
You know, me and Ronnie's the stars.
We got 50 bucks a night or better.
But he said who? The mother, damn weed.
He said these mother, they ate food in like a week because, you
know, they all owe me the 2015 dollars they got paid for the
weed that I fronted them the daybefore.
(40:49):
And you had to buy your own food.
And you said these mother they need in weeks.
Jamie, goddamn. You ever bring weed on the store
again? Because I mean, I just brought a
pound of pot, sold it to them all.
It was great. I had all the money, the whole
toy. I got all the money.
Me and Ronnie living big. I don't know.
How many? I don't know how many trips we
took, man. I'm going to tell you we went
from Damn, what? What was that?
(41:11):
Russellville, KY, or whatever the hell.
Jamestown, KY. Russellville.
Jamestown. Yeah, one, one trip was the
Dakotas. We've done north-south Dakota.
Hell, we went our way to Nevada with that thumb bitch.
Man, yeah, we, we, we. Wouldn't get Indian
reservations. We did a bunch of both Indian
reservations. Watched the black foot Indian
tribe put the boat in the chief and all kind of cool ass shit
(41:32):
man it was a blast for real. That's awesome.
Yeah, no, it was fun. It was fun man.
Yeah, yeah, very cool. You don't know.
You don't know what it's like tobe the driver.
I'm driving Ronnie's in the passenger seat and the midgets
sitting on the cooler full of beard.
And we drive and and we're Ronnie get drunk.
So we take the midgets feet up with eight track tapes.
(41:52):
We probably got take 8 tracks tothe midgets so he can drive the
van in Oklahoma. And it's got a big trying to
drive this big old huge van with15 people in it.
Dale Man's in the back, so you're rocking side to side
everywhere you went. Oh, it was a blast.
We just come back to South Dakota and I passed out.
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I woke up and the midgets sitting in Jamie's lap.
Jamie's passed out. The midgets driving down the
Interstate with the cruise control on it's.
So funny. Oh my gosh, that we might.
Have a good picture. The damn man would wait one time
the Midget slip the cigarette out the window and it blew back
in and it landed in the bed and back in the back of the van and
that damn man I had son of a bitch got him smacking and
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raising their little turn insidelight on.
He said no more smoking. So he we we banned from smoking
for like a 2 day deal because meand Ronnie said well we ain't
driving if we can't smoke so we just get it.
We sit in the back of the boat. He's like no we can't do OK.
Only Jamie and Ronnie are allowed to smoke on the floor
now. You know, the, the, the, the
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Midget done that a couple times.The Midget done that shit to
Brian Brown too, and burnt the whole back of his ear.
But I burnt that some bitch. Oh.
My gosh. Hey, and another thing, that old
man killed a man over at Midget.I've got the newspaper article
right here in that book where I was looking through the Midget
oldest guy. Listen to this shit.
The Midget oldest guy, $50.00 for a bag of weed in Jamestown
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and the guys weather was the referee for Dale Dale driving
the van. Dale Peterson.
Yeah, Dale Peterson was the guys.
That's right. Did the and this and Dale Man's
driving the van. Dale Peterson in the van, Dale
producer's brother runs up to the van and jumps on the running
board on the side of the van andputs up knives to Dale Man's
throat and says, I'm like Billy the Kid, mother.
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I'm going to cut your guts out. You're going to pay me my money
for your Midget. Dale Man pull the pistol out and
shot him, blew him right off theside of the van while the dude's
brother's in the van and said, yeah, you're like Billy the Kid,
you're dead. And the dude's brother was in
the van. The dude's brother testified on
Dale's behalf. And his brother ran up and tried
to cut Dale's boat and they all got Scott free.
They all just waited for the police with the gun get rid of
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the car, waited for the cops to come and arrest him, got right
out jumped the fence or whateverthey called him and the kids
brother sitting in the van watchhis brother and the guy get shot
off man over it you know and 50 bucks.
And that dude, that dude, that dude never quit working for
Dale, man. No, he never.
He never did. That dude.
That man killed his brother and he still he even when Dale got
out of wrestle. That dude even worked on Dale's
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houses and farm and shit. Yes, he did.
Yes, he did. Look here when we very first,
when we very first got. I don't remember how we got
hooked up with Dale, man. I don't know how I don't.
I don't. I don't remember it either.
Billy Travis, maybe. Maybe because Billy started with
Dale, remember. Yeah.
This this Dale. Dale was a big wig in this
little town, this little town. You talk about some inbred some
(44:48):
bitches from Kentucky brother. You talk about backwoods,
especially for us to those Hendersonville, Nashville boys.
We really thought we was in in the Deliverance movie.
They might have eyes. Well, they they.
They own the gym like a go to the gym deal in the in the
middle of Jamestown, right on the square.
Well, upstairs he had about, I don't know, 10 rooms, man.
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Like like motel rooms upstairs. That's where all the boys stay.
We pull into this town, dude. I will never forget it.
Dude, here comes this top down the road.
I thought Oh my God it's Barney 5 though this some bitch.
You get a 4 door Gray and black,You bet.
With a Big Blue light on top when you pull out.
Stick on top when you want to. What the freaking hell?
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I don't know. We've been there a couple weeks,
you know, running these little towns of Dale, man.
And it was, it was nothing but one big freaking party, man.
One night I wake up. I hear all this commotion, man.
I wake up. I look at the door in the
hallway. The Midget Danny, dude is
standing up in the window with his damn Dick out.
Dude out the window at this top.This cop was downstairs, dude.
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He was going. Danny, you can't do that.
Danny's trying to piss on from the second door.
He was up on the 2nd floor. He's just pissing all over
something. Yeah, yeah.
Oh my gosh. Dale man, he had a lot of pool
in that town. I mean for real man that he
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Russell Springs, Jamestown, KY area.
Dale man was he was a big time. You know, he was a wrestler with
the ICW, you know, with the the pop was not in back in the day
and shit, whatever. But but he became a a cattle
rancher. He had a cow business, millions
$1,000,000 milk cow business or something.
Ended up selling it all up. And how many?
How many wives and kids did he have?
Ronnie, this is no bullshit. Oh my God, he made he made Jamie
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look like a St. I'm not kidding.
His last wife was like his 25th wife or something When he died
and he was like 78. She was like 19.
I'm not exactly like I'm not good.
Hey, who? Jamie.
Jamie. Who was?
Who was? Jeff Connor's daughter was one
of them. Chuck Connor.
That's who I was trying to thinkof.
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Hell, he had three or four. Yeah, yeah, that was, it was
Chuck Connor. He had as many kids as they are.
They they compete and see how many wives and kids they could
have. They marry each other's
daughters and all kind of shit. When did you get in on it,
Jamie? I got in on it when Ronnie
booked me there. I'm.
Just kidding. Now listen, listen there,
there's not one time that that ten of us get get in the van
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that that we didn't go down the road sideways because somebody's
in the bed. I don't care who was driving it.
It was like the only couples like stayed in the I don't know
what he called us. We was a travelling gypsy fest.
We'll be right back with more. Give me back my pro wrestling.
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The blood, the beer and the bailmoney.
It's all on the Wrestle Copia podcast network.
Go to USW podcast.com or I'll come down there and I'll slap
taste out of your mouth. Ladies and gentlemen, this is
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Jimmy St. and that was episode 28 of the Best of James Rock St.
Productions with the first half of episode 79 of Ronnie Travis
on Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling.
To pick a favorite episode for me is tough.
There's been so many, but this one with Ronnie is for sure near
the top. Great show.
His old Rock'n'roll Dream Team tag partner Jamie Dundee even
dropped by and things really gotgoing.
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Dale Mann stories for days. You can hear the full episode
and moreover on at GMBMPW or Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling
wherever you listen to podcasts or simply click the link in the
notes below. We hope you've enjoyed a look
back in the archives of James Rock St.
Productions. Check us out next week to see
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