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Welcome to Episode 192 of LIVE and IN COLOR with Wolfie D (@warrenwolfe13) and co-host Jimmy Street (@jamesrockstreet)!

Today we welcome the one and only, Living Legend, Larry Zbyszko to the show! Man what a cool guy! We’re talking Bruno Sammartino, the AWA title, his Remco action figure, his commentary in WCW, his new job with Shoot Pro Wrestling, the Unbreakable Bunch movie, the Boo On Me song and so much more! Enjoy!


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(00:00):
This is Larry's Hibisco Wrestling's living legend, and
I'm here live and in color with Wolfie D.
Hey, this is Jimmy St. host of the Live and in color with
Wolfie D podcast. Here the Life and Times of
professional wrestler Wolfie D. From his time in the territories
with PG13 to his time in WWEECWWCWTNA and more.

(00:22):
Nothing is off limits and nothing will be held back.
Thanks again for tuning in. Here he is, Wolfie D.
Welcome, welcome, welcome once again to live and in color.
Woofie D of a man, Jimmy across the street.
Jimmy. What's going on in the wrestling
world today? Oh man I don't even know bro, I
just do podcasts. I just do podcasts.

(00:44):
Yeah, I've seen you have some pretty cool guests on your show,
man. Tommy Hagee, Wildcat, Wendell
Cooley, those, those are going to be some good shows, man.
Yeah, man, I'm excited. It Wendell's awesome.
Shane Morton, the Booker of the Stars, hooked that one up for
me. So much kudos to him.
But yeah, Tommy Hagee man, come on.
I've been trying to get Tommy and Cool Breeze on this show,

(01:05):
man. I don't know why it hasn't
happened but definitely definitely needs to happen
because y'all have that history with them in the USWA so.
Yeah, for sure. And History of Hell.
They both wrestled me when I wasa little boy.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, 1516 years old, 17, you
know. Oh Cool Breeze used to beat the

(01:27):
fucking breaks off of me man when I was a little kid.
Give me a little bit of his laugh.
Him and Billy Jack Haynes kind of about the same laugh.
Violent men with scary laughs. I know.
That is kind of crazy, isn't it?Yeah.
I mean seriously, super crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:48):
Dirty white, Dirty White Boy just called me and left me a
voicemail. He's going to tell me I ghosted
him. That's where he tells me every
time. But anyway, we're doing the
podcast White Boy, I'll call youback.
In just a minute, yeah. How is white and?
That's the thing. Elizabethton Elizabethton, TN
May the 10th They're doing a Smoky Mountain mania show.

(02:10):
It's gonna have myself dirty White boy.
Rock'n'roll Express. Mustafa Saeed from the
Gangsters. Wow.
Jimmy Golden and I think there'sa few others are going to be
added in, but that's the that's the meet and greet part.
Even though I already know that Rock'n'roll is going to work,

(02:32):
White boys going to manage. They're asking me to work.
We're going to see about on thatone, we're going to see on that
one. Want to put me and Mustafa in
there against the Rock'n'roll. So we'll see about that.
I don't know yet, but I haven't given a complete answer on that.
But I will be there. So that's something upcoming
that the fans can look forward. To Elizabethton, by the way, and

(02:53):
it's if you're going to go there, you need to know how to
say it. That's in my old hood in
tri-cities, right? It's right outside of Johnson
City. I'm I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, that'll be good man it. Is that is that area?
Yeah. Yeah, you should go by, what's
his name, School of Morton, man.Try to see what they're doing
over there too. See if they'll give me some
tips. No, I'm saying show them kids
what's going on, man. I'm just kidding.

(03:13):
I'm just kidding. Yeah.
Yeah. So I'll be there on that.
When is that again repeat may. The 10th.
All right, man, May the 10th. That's very cool.
Yeah. And then your book is ahead of
schedule too, right? Yes, the book is ahead of
schedule. We're looking at.
I mean, we're thinking fall, butnow we're talking about May or
June. So there's a possibility that

(03:34):
Elizabethton could be the first place that I actually have books
and sell them. I don't know.
I'm not promising that, but it could be around that time.
It depends. The major thing is whether once
they get me the detail, not the details, what the what's the
word, I'm looking for the all the writing, because I'm the
proofreader, I got to look at itand go, OK, this is acceptable

(03:57):
or not. So I feel like when I get it,
I'm going to be like, OK, no, wegot to, we got to do this, we
got to do that. So if there's a hold up, it's
probably going to be me. So I don't know.
We'll see. We got one more talk scheduled
for me to dictate everything next week.
Yeah, man, that that's that's coming on so.

(04:20):
That's cool, man. Yeah, that's, that's very cool.
It came on quick too, huh? Right.
Like. Yeah, it did.
We we just put it in and all of a sudden there.
You go man there. You go.
We came quick on this one. So have you come up with a title
for it yet? Or you got.
Some things in mind, man, I really do.
And then I reached out to some of the people on social media

(04:41):
and stuff and they some good ideas.
But yeah, man, I don't know yet.It's gonna take me reading the
stuff first before I can really narrow it down.
But my idea is though on a covertoo, because they want me to do
the cover and I'm like, I hate drawing myself.
Please don't ask me to draw myself.

(05:01):
So we're working on that, but atthe same time, I'm thinking a
tale of two wolves. You know that story.
Which one do you feed? Which wolf do you feed?
I'm yeah, live by that story. A lot, yeah.
And I think I fed the wrong one for a long time.
So I think there's a fitting title, A tale of two wolves.
I don't know. Yeah, I'm I'm a fan of that,

(05:22):
actually. That's very accurate and and
true, man. So yeah, yeah, that's good.
I like that. You should get Lawler to draw
the cover, man. Well.
You know what? I sent Kevin a message.
Yeah. And I said, how has the, the the
last stroke affected your dad's artwork?
And yeah, so that's not a thing.No gotcha.

(05:43):
Yeah, so it's either me or the writer Christopher Pelton is
going to reach out to someone cuz he's a horror convention
Comic Con guy and stuff like that, and he knows people on
that. So I just told him, I said, man,
I hate drawing myself. I really do.
I really hate drawing me. Yeah man, who else could you get
though? Cuz it'd be cool if you Yeah, I

(06:03):
mean, obviously it's not you. And then you say your friend
Stuart flaked on it, right? It's not one that.
Kind of, yeah. He's, I don't know.
I'll respect this too, but yeah,but yeah, so he doesn't really
want to do it now, you know, Hey, man, he's thinking of this
is this epic thing. Probably, you know, he's maybe
not thinking. That's what I would, you know,
maybe consider but but anyway, so who else can draw, man?

(06:25):
I mean, who else is I? Don't know, man, I don't know.
I'd almost just like I said, just get somebody because I want
it to be comic style. And, and, and with that title,
I'm thinking like, you know, a split face or a back-to-back
with Wolfie D and slash standingback-to-back with their arms
crossed superhero style or something like that.

(06:46):
I don't know. I don't know man.
It's, and like I said, until I read what I've said to them and
dictated to them and, and, and you know that format, I don't
know that I, that I have an answer to it, but we'll see.
We'll see. And I hope everybody, man, I
know the listeners are bad aboutgiving us feedback, but man,
give us some feedback. Yeah, any day now.

(07:11):
They're pretty good on YouTube, man.
We've got The Apprentice over there, we've got John Lewis,
we've got all kinds of good Big G Lil Wayne.
He's always good and telling us what we're doing wrong.
So you know. We're doing wrong.
Yeah, he's, he's just kind of a collar outer kind of guy, you
know? But we need those, man.
You need those in life, you know?
Absolutely. He, he, he.

(07:32):
Listens. That's the important part.
He just throws out his opinion. So hey.
He says we're the shits, right? No, no, he just.
He'll say something like Jerry. He says something funny.
Actually. He's actually a very funny dude.
He says stuff like Jerry Stubbs sounds just like David Schultz.
Like he doesn't really comment on the stuff going on in the
show he kind of picks up on. And he does.

(07:54):
If you listen to Jerry Stubbs, he actually does sound like
David Schultz. So good call.
And I'll tell you on that Jerry Stubbs thing and the the, the
bullet's name and all that, the Road Dogg texted me back and his
answer was, well, Jerry's got full of shit.
But maybe that was so funny. I laughed out loud at that.

(08:16):
Seriously, when he takes me back, he said maybe, maybe, I
don't know. He said my dad always loved him,
but he was also full of shit. But that's just old school
wrestlers, man. That's just old school.
Wrestlers. You got them.
You do, you do. I just watched the thing on on
social media of it was Rock'n'roll versus Midnight

(08:37):
Express, meaning Bobby and Dennis, and it was, yeah, I
mean, of course Bobby's dead, but it was not that old, you
know, before Bobby passed away or whatever and somebody was
knocking it and it was like, if you watched it, it was like they
were just out there fucking playing around.
It looked better than a lot of stuff I've seen recently from
young guys, you know what I'm saying?

(08:58):
It's like they were really, you could tell they were just
playing with each other and stuff and doing a little goofy
spot and blah, blah, blah. But it looked great.
It looked great. Yeah, I just recently watched
it. Maybe it was a recent
Rock'n'roll. It was like one of the later day
Rock'n'roll midnight matches. And dude to watch how like Ricky
would roll, do the forward roll and then come up and bounce

(09:21):
their heads together. And like you can tell that their
heads never touch. But Bobby is just selling it.
And Dennis is like, Oh my, you know, he's kind of doing that
iron like fight with his fists up, you know?
Who's? Here, who's here?
I'm here, you know, and, and Bobby's just rolling from corner
post to post, just selling it onthe outside.
It was awesome. Yeah, that is awesome, man.

(09:43):
I mean, I missed those days whenyou could get in the ring and
just play around and have fun with each other.
We would rib each other. We would lock up and tell a
joke, you know? And I just know it's not like
that anymore. And that's the stuff you see.
The people don't even know, man.We'd lock up and fucking tell a
joke. What the fuck are you doing
tonight, asshole? You know what I mean?

(10:04):
Just something like that. It was just so much fun back
then. But yeah, anyway, yeah.
Anyway, we got another living legend.
Not another one, but the living legend.
The original, I guess. The real living legend.
Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I'm stoked,
man. Larry's Abisco, bro.
Come on. Let's give it up for Captain
Nick, too. He shot me the number and I

(10:25):
started talking with the Zabisco.
What? How many weeks ago?
Before the end of the year. So it was in 2024 I'm pretty
sure, wasn't it? You were like you were like, are
you really talking to this guy? Like, yeah, man, I'm fucking
talking to him. I knew you would come on and I
just gotta I got it. We're trying to work it out and
it just fucking then that one day where the the city here

(10:48):
knocked out by Internet. We were supposed to do it and I
had to tell him I'm sorry. So it's just been a it's been a
thing. But now we got it, man.
We. Got him yeah, he's landed.
The eagle has landed, The legendhas landed.
So I'm. Trained by Trained by Bruno
Sammartino. That's pretty damn cool.
I mean, dude, he's just, you know, he's funny.

(11:10):
He's just, he's old school, but he's also like he's got a foot
in the new school. Like he understand, he knows
what day it is, you know, like he, he knows what's up.
So it's funny. Because before we've done this,
I've had, I don't know, 345 conversations with him on the
side of of and I told you, I said, I wish I was recording.

(11:32):
You're like, I wish you were recording too.
I mean, I've had a few conversations with him just just
talking, shooting the shit, man.And, you know, let him know, hey
man, this is me. And he was like, Oh yeah, you
know, and I think he's called, this is the thing I, I told him
may or may not bring it up in this, but I think he's called a

(11:55):
few of our matches when we were in WCW.
Not positive but I I feel like he has but.
Oh, I'm sure, yeah. Any of the Nitro stuff, you
know, he's probably on that, youknow?
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
But anyway, let's get the livinglegend.
Larry's Abiscuit also called himLegend in the The Unbreakable
Bunch. Man, that's exactly.

(12:15):
Yeah, yeah. And I say let's Boo on me or Boo
on him. Anyway, we'll be right back
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(12:42):
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(13:05):
we are blessed. We are so blessed today.
I've been on the phone for about3 weeks trying to make this
happen. Had a few conversations on the
side that, you know, trying to make this happen.
So I am very happy, very blessedto introduce to you today two
time AWA World Heavyweight Champion in 2015 class, WWE Hall

(13:27):
of Famer, the Living legend Larry Zabisco.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Thank. You let's.
Let's clap, Jimmy. Let's.
Clap yeah. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you so much for coming on,
man. It's seriously, hey, last week
my Internet was knocked out. Then you had something going on.
But we've been working on this and now we're making it happen.

(13:48):
And I, I really appreciate it, Larry.
Well, I'm glad. Yeah, it worked out good.
So we'll whip it out and go get them guys, whatever you want.
Let me know and I'll talk a month.
I'm glad we are not on video if you're about to whip it out so
we'll. Get you done.
OK, fag to whip it out. OK, fag to whip it out.
All right, so we're today we're going to talk about a few

(14:10):
things, man. The first thing that I want to
ask, we're going to do some wrestling related stuff, but I
definitely want to talk about the Unbreakable bunch.
We had Ray on here, Glacier, we talked about the Unbreakable
bunch. You you played a big part in
that movie. You had a big role in it.
But before we get to that, I do want to talk a little wrestling
with you because you definitely are a living legend.

(14:32):
The one thing that I want to know is your experience when you
were inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame by your mentor, your
trainer, your friend Bruno San Martino.
What? What did that mean to you?
Oh. You know what?
To me, that was the closing final moment that made a dream

(14:55):
come true. A young boy's dream come true.
Because when I was young, Bruno was my hero.
I want to be a professional wrestler.
I had this dream. Everybody's got a dream for what
they want to do with their life because we're here in a
temporary body, you know, 708090years, and then we go back to

(15:15):
heaven. It's a long story.
It's another time, but when Bruno inducted me in the Hall of
Fame and this was there and a great company and everything
worked out, When I got that goldring that solidified and, and
made a positive, you know, it was a positive ending and it

(15:35):
made a dream come true. My life's dream came true.
When Bruno inducted me into the Hall of Fame, it was a it was a
moment that I really got really emotional about, kind of blanked
out for a minute talking becauseI was so overwhelmed by things
to say and and the emotion of it.

(15:56):
But it was a dream come true. That's awesome, man, That's
awesome. And, and, and compare that now
to the, let's just say the firstAWA title win.
And, and I know when you're, when you're in the midst of the
business and you know, especially back then, like, I, I
don't know, maybe it wasn't the same for you, but for me it was

(16:17):
like everybody always said, Oh, don't be a mark for the belts.
And you know that don't they don't mean shit and blah, blah,
blah. But winning the AWA world title
had to have meant something to you, especially on the first
time. Or am I right or wrong?
Oh of. Course it did, because that that
means that you have made it to the top of that stairway to
heaven that everybody wants to make it to.

(16:41):
I mean, it's a symbol. It's a symbol that you were a
success and what you wanted to do and your dream and you worked
your butt off to get there, you know?
And so, you know, I mean, it meant something.
And it was weird because at thattime, the era of wrestling was

(17:01):
changing because it went from the days of the territories in
the 60s and 70s and early 80s. But then after that, the era
started changing, where it became the end of the territory
stories and the beginning of nationwide cable and nationwide

(17:22):
pay-per-view. So it was a new era, it was a
new era in wrestling and it was exciting.
Yeah. AWA was on ESPN, you know, Vegas
and and The funny thing about ESPN because they would say
we're the Sports Network, but they had to have professional

(17:44):
wrestling on to get ratings to survive.
And then after a couple years when wrestling got them the
ratings, then they dropped the wrestling and did the other
sports. But wrestling was the one that
made ESPN happened. Jimmy, I'm going to I'm going to

(18:06):
give you a quick tag man. Hop in here for some wrestling
questions. The hot tag at what we're
talking about AWA and one of thethe things that brought me like
you talked about the the wrestling on ESPN.
The other thing that brought me to become a fan of the AWA and
know more about it was the RemcoAWA action figures and legend

(18:32):
might I say this. I think yours was actually one
of the best looking of the bunch.
Some of them was a, you know, some of them were a little bit
like off the, you know, it was like you could tell they kind of
just threw some paint on them and made them the Road Warriors.
But yours actually looked like you.
Like you could actually see Larry living legends Abisco in

(18:54):
your action figure. And that was kind of unheard of
even for WWF at the time. Talk about that.
How did that feel? What do you remember about that
time? Well, that time, like I said, it
was the changing of the era. You know, it's a national cable
and paper beam. And it was also the beginning of

(19:14):
merchandising. They didn't have dolls and stuff
in the 60s and the 70s. So it was the beginning of a
whole new era, which included, you know, dolls, action figures,
T-shirts. You know, it included
merchandising. And the fans loved it so they
could walk around and, you know,with the guy's shirt on, who was

(19:38):
their favorite guy or have wrestled dials and, you know,
put on wrestling matches in their little plastic rings at
home, the kids. But that that was part of a new
era of, of wrestling was the, you know, invention of the
action figures and the merchandising.
Yeah. Yeah.

(19:58):
It was so cool because I mean I just remember thinking I was
like, okay, that kind of looks like Terry Gordy.
That's kind. It's got Rick flairs nose.
Okay, Greg Gonya looks close. But man, that is Larry's Abisco
right there. There is no question on that.
They got that perfect. I've actually been able to
interview Steve Rosenthal, the guy who kind of got that going

(20:20):
with with Vern and her Greg. I'm not sure who.
But anyway, Steve was talking about how difficult it was to
get some of those faces the way he wanted them to.
But he was very happy with yours.
OK. Well, look, I said that was just
the beginning of it. So you know, trial and error,
but mine came out good. Well, thank you very much.

(20:40):
I appreciate. It my pleasure Sir.
Do you have any of those still? You know what I might have, I
got a couple around, but I don'thave much stuff left because
after all these years, you know,I I've been contacted by a lot
of collectors that say, hey, do you have an old jacket?
Do you have any old trunks? Do you have any old boots?

(21:02):
Yeah, You know, Yeah, Yeah. And I'm thinking to myself,
well, instead of me dropping dead someday and all this stuff
winds up in the garbage, I'd rather pass it on to people and
collectors who care about it andit'll be saved forever and, you
know, in prosperity. So right now I really don't have

(21:25):
anything left. No more boots, no more shrunks,
no jackets. But I do got, I do got a couple
of action figures left. That's cool, that's cool.
The latest one was from the Hallof Fame action figure.
Yes, it was a great figure, Yeah.
Great figure. Yeah, I was gonna ask that.
It's such a crazy pathway from how realistic they've become

(21:48):
these days to the days when you all looked like he man.
Which I mean, of course, you always did look like he man, but
for the other guys. They did in the old days.
Nowadays you got guys and they're like 150 lbs, right?
And I'm, I'm watching and running around the ring going
what the hell? My wrists are bigger than his

(22:08):
arms. Why is this guy in the business?
Yes, I'm not mentioning any names, but you can watch it and
see sure. I want to, I want you to feed
off of this real quick. I, I was watching last night
the, yeah, the, the raw from last night, they lead off the
show with Punk and Seth Rollins and all they did was a pull

(22:31):
apart. It was a great pull apart and it
lasted for about 10 minutes and it, but it was done so good.
And then I actually was talking to somebody that was
interviewing me this morning andI, they, something came up and I
said, listen, I said last night just proves what I keep saying.
I said, you know, AW, and a lot of these places, man, you got
these young kids that are, that are out there doing high spots

(22:55):
for, you know, 10 minutes. I said last night the crowd was
going nuts for two grown men wholook like men who look like
athletes doing a pull apart. That's all they did was a pull
apart. They, they people would rather
see two grown men fight than twolittle guys spring around the
ring like gymnasts for 10 minutes.

(23:18):
Right or wrong? Well, yeah, I mean, it's getting
to the point where, I mean, in the ring you've got amazing
athletes. They're amazing, aren't they?
But they're all doing the same stuff.
They're all running up and back and flipping over the top rope,
and you got two guys with their arms out ready to catch them.

(23:40):
Or you got another guy back flipping off the top turnbuckle
and he crashes through the announced desk.
It happens almost every, you know, magic show, but it's so
much the same that when you see guys do other stuff besides just
running up and back and, and then this, I don't know what
this obsession is with slapping each other.

(24:04):
If you slap somebody, the crowd goes, whoa, you know, they slap
you, they slap you 5-6 times andthen they go to throw you in the
corner. But but did they get reversed
because the slaps meant nothing?But if you in a real fight, are
you going to slap a guy? Punch him in the mouth.

(24:31):
I hope I will say there was a viral video that went around a
couple of years ago, two guys ina in looks like a restaurant or
something and the one guy comes up to him and actually flare
chops the guy like hard as shit.Not the hell out of him.
It's hilarious. But yeah, once, once in a
lifetime, I guess. But it was funny.

(24:53):
Funny good, you know, I mean thething and and and God bless the
wrestling fans. You're the greatest fans of all
and they love them and the WWE is a great company and they put
on an awesome production. I mean, it's an awesome
production. And every athlete in the ring
are they're amazing athletes. They train their butts off, they

(25:14):
work their butts off, but there's a lot of them.
Every match is the same. And I wish they got to go back
to a little more wrestling and alittle less of the gymnastics
stuff. Yeah.
And I do think though that especially WWE because I don't
watch anything but that. And if I watch it because I
don't watch every show, I usually watch the pay per views.

(25:37):
But they in the past year and a half, I think that they've
really reeled it in and brought it back to some old school
values and psychology in the ring and out.
So that's appealing to me and I and I know they're doing good
business. So I mean, it's not Larry Bruno
and Shay, but I'm. Not yeah.
I don't mean I'm not going that far back.
They are reeling. They are reeling it in, yeah.

(26:00):
Yeah, let's just be honest, it'spretty.
Good. Yeah, Yeah.
Well, I mean, as time goes on, they make changes because, you
know, they know the they know the secret of programming.
And it's like if you got the if you got a favorite show, it
could be anything like Seinfeld,you know, you thought it's my
favorite show, but God, I've seen it 100 times these days.

(26:21):
So is there any anything else onTV?
And that's where wrestling goes,You know, after a few years,
they go, OK, we've been doing this, let's change it around
because people are saying, well,we've seen this so much So.
I mean, they're very smart. And again, it's a great company.
Triple H is doing a great job. I know they got brought up by

(26:42):
TKO or Endeavour or some companywith the UFD and that.
So I mean, it's an amazing show to watch, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to ask you this before we
get on to some other stuff. So you get out of the ring, you
retire and you make your way to the broadcast booth.
How is is that kind of hard on you?

(27:06):
Because like you're you're watching guys do stuff and I
don't know about you, but and like me sitting and watching
wrestling, I'm also trying to bea fan.
But more or less I'm sitting here going, yeah, that was good
or that was the shits or I coulddo that better.
I mean, was it hard to make thattransition to where you were
kind of unbiased in a sense of of calling the matches?

(27:28):
You know what? It's an interesting question and
here's the interesting story. Because I was in the ring, I
started the 7380 big Bruno thingthrough the 80s as a most hated
guy and then the early 90s turn or so.
But what happened was thanks to Jesse Ventura, I mean, I was

(27:53):
with WCW and Bill Watts was in there at the time and he was an
A hole. No one like Bill Watts and he he
started this group, the Dangerous Alliance.
And I would. I love, I love that.
Group I was, I was one of them. But the secret of being a star.

(28:14):
I didn't want to be part of a group.
Even though it was Stone Cold Steve Austin and Rick Rude and
Hard and some others. I I didn't want to lose my image
as the living legend. I didn't want to be the
cruncher. I didn't want to do what Bill
Watts said, right? So I went to the TBS people and
legitimately, I had a little torn cartilage in my knee

(28:35):
because I was like, you know, 41years old now or so at the time.
And, and you know, you start getting past 40 as a
professional wrestler, things catch up.
So I said, hey, you know what? My knee hurts because I wanted
to get out of the group. So I went and got a little
orthoscopic knee cleaner up or whatever it was, and I was home

(28:59):
for a couple months floating in a pool rehab, and they're still
sending me a check on that order.
But what happened was I never planned on broadcasting, never
thought about it. I want it to be Bruno, not Tony
Shavani, right? You know, I mean, in time is
great, but I never planned on being, you know, a broadcaster.

(29:21):
But what what happened was Jessewas doing it and I don't know if
that's when he went to be governor or mayor or whatever,
but I'm floating in the I get a call one day from TBS as I'm
rehabbing my knee and the guy says, hey, Larry, can you do us
a favor? Jesse, the body Ventura just

(29:41):
quit And can you come down to, you know, TBSCNN center here and
voice over a couple of pre tapedshows for the syndicate market.
I said, excuse me. I said, sure, yeah, I'll come
down and talk over some shows, which I've never even thought

(30:02):
of. But I felt guilty because they
were paying me. So I went down and I voiced over
a couple of shows and I can't remember who I did it with,
whether it was Tony Jr. Gordon solely.
But anyway, after doing a coupleof shows, the door busted open
and the executive producer, I believe is was Craig Leathers at

(30:23):
the time he came in and said, Larry, you're the best color man
we've ever heard. Would you like to do the color
on our shows? And I, you know, and they and
then he said, and we'll pay you this much a year as an employee,
which was double when I was evermaking as a wrestler because,

(30:45):
well, it was it was a weird time.
It was a time when Ted Turner was giving money away like candy
and Vince was, you know, signingbig contracts because they
didn't want their talent going back and forth from WCW, you
know, to the WWE. So I went.
So I just work one day a week and talk over this.

(31:07):
And then Nitro happened. And so I said, yeah, hell, I'll
do it. And I was like I said, 4142.
And that's why my body is still good.
I had, you know, I don't need any artificial parts.
So I wound up, you know what, A 10 year broadcasting career,
which really came easy for me because I looked at it like it

(31:28):
was real and made it sound as real as I could.
He did Plus plus when things change like the new world order,
I'm the one who named and influenced I'm and I influenced
the name, the new world order that Eric heard and loved and
said, OK, that's the name. So I, I basically named the New

(31:52):
World Order and then I wrote, I programmed the beginning of it
where I came out of the broadcast booth and had a match
with Fish off, had a match with Scott Hall.
And I'm the one that got the NewWorld Order, you know, off the
bat at the beginning. Because if you're going to make
something big, you have to do itright from the beginning.

(32:16):
And at that time Eric was in there.
But he's a smart guy and he got a lot of ideas, but.
And he knew what a good idea wasand a bad idea.
And when he heard me calling it the New World Order, he said,
yeah, that's the name. We're calling it the.
And then he wanted to get involved, so I programmed me and
him and the fans wanted to see me and Scott Hall, so I

(32:37):
programmed. Actually, I programmed the whole
beginning of the New World Orderand named it.
That's amazing. So I'm proud of that.
Yeah. Yeah.
That people are trying to compare now since they they
switched Cena, Cena Hill the other night on the pay-per-view
with The Rock that they're trying to compare that to.

(32:59):
Hogan Rock the bad guy now. Oh yeah, Benny Hill.
But he he just switched Cena to join him on on the on the
hillside. So they're they're trying to say
that John Cena's heel turn the other night is compared to Hulk
Hogan's heel turn and end up yo.And I'm like, I mean, it was
good, but it ain't that damn good.
Come on. Let's take a quick timeout and

(33:29):
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(34:38):
Speaking of commentating, tell us about your new commentating
gig. What?
Happened to my a month ago. I got a call from a guy and
there's a new wrestling show starting.
It's going to be on some streaming stations.
I think Trilla's one of them, Roku's one of them.

(35:01):
There's so many. I still have a flip phone, so I
don't understand a lot of this stuff.
But what it is is it's called Shoot Pro Wrestling.
You can Google it on shootprowrestling.com and what
it is, it's, it's a true sport. It's an ancient sport,

(35:24):
one-on-one submission. Wrestling was big in the ancient
Egyptians, you know, thousands years ago.
And then it was big in the RomanEmpire and it was the Romans who
turned it into a real bone breaking, physical nasty, you
know, break your arm, break yourshoulder, put you to sleep,

(35:45):
break your neck. I mean, a one-on-one submission
wrestler will beat anybody one-on-one in the world, a
boxer, a karate guy. I mean UCF guys are pretty tough
guys, but they spend some time on boxing, you know, skills.
They spend sometimes on kicking skills, but a shoot wrestler

(36:07):
spends 100% time on just how to break your body and hurt you.
So there's a new wrestling show started called Shoot Pro and
they filmed some matches and they're going to film some more.
And me and this guy now they're going to do the, you know,
commentary over it and it shouldbe out maybe a month or so on

(36:32):
something. Trillo, Roku, and some other
stuff. Now is it?
Is it 100%? Shoot, it's not not a work at
all. This is 100% ancient sport
submission wrestling. There's no punching, there's no
kicking, it's no nothing in OK. This is real, 100% real

(37:01):
submission wrestling. What is the, Is it in a ring or
is it on the mat like a, like a,you know, Olympic style?
Mat Well, yeah, they filmed it on a mat.
And I, I told them because I'm on the Advisory Board, I said,
you know, film it on a mat because, you know, most of the
action is on the ground. It's, it's not a show.

(37:22):
No one's diving off the ropes and when you shoot the
wrestling, which is mostly is onthe mat, the ropes getting away,
but no ones running the ropes, no ones diving off the ropes.
You don't need ropes. That's professional wrestling
stuff, boxing stuff. They even refer to the ring as
the squared circle. I said just make a big circle on

(37:44):
a match to throw in the middle. But this is 100% real.
It's real and there's going to be people taken to the emergency
room. This is 30 seconds.
I mean, you can break someone's arm.
You can pop a shoulder out, pop a knee, break a neck.

(38:05):
This is real and I think it's going to get a lot of attention
because it is real. And have you already done a
voice over? So you've watched the match and
all that. No.
I seen some early stuff they filmed and gave them some
suggestions and then they filmedsome more and then they're going
to film some more. But I haven't done any broadcast

(38:28):
over it yet because they're going to, you know, they want to
film it the right way. They had to change the lighting,
They had to change the camera angle because no one's flying
through the air, flipping aroundmost of the actions on the mat.
So you have to have the camera level on the mat so you can see
how this guy's arm got broken. This old works and it's a true

(38:51):
art in science. It's an art of playing the human
game of chess, getting someone in trouble.
But it's a science of human anatomy.
How to put a grip on no one can break, how to put the pressure
on an arm bar to pop an elbow. Brock Lesnar did a great job
with the arm bar. I mean, Brock could break your

(39:12):
arm, pop your shoulder out. You know he was good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jim, but this is.
Real. It's 100% real.
That's also, that is very cool. OK, so the Living Legend
moniker, you know, it's crazy tothink about, but I can't even
Larry Bird. I think they put that Living
Legend on Larry Bird and I can'tthink about it on anybody else

(39:36):
but you. When did that come to you?
Did someone give that to you? Can you tell me a little bit
about the specifics of the Living Legend?
Here's the story. Because if you look back in
time, television didn't hit everybody's home till the early
1950s sometime, you know, when every household was getting the

(39:58):
TV and on the top of everybody'shouses, there was a big antenna.
And that was the first time people got to watch TV and see
like Yogi Bear and Mickey Mantle, their big butt kiss.
And but they were young. They were young guys.
And even Bruno was a young guy, you know, But then all of a

(40:19):
sudden, 20 years ago by. And Bruno, there was someone in
the Pittsburgh Post Gazette or something that first came up
with the, the name God, Pittsburgh's own Bruno
Sammartino. You know, it's a living linking.
But because time went by from the 50s through the 60s now to

(40:40):
the end of the 70's, the guys were getting older.
So the term legend started to mean something because they were
retired and getting older and they were a legendary figure.
And in wrestling, Bruno was actually the first guy I ever
heard called the living legend. But in 1980, after our big feud,

(41:03):
because everybody hated me and Iwas still a young guy, yeah, I'd
walk around and do all my interviews saying I'm the new
living legend, which, you know, which I was.
So I was still young. It just made people hate me
more. OK, OK.
But then that was in the early 80s, but then the 80's, the 90s.

(41:28):
So, you know, it went on so longthat it stuck with me.
Yeah, because I'm the first one in wrestling that ever used it,
you know, from the Bruno era. So it kind of stuck with me for
the last 35 years or so because I used to say, call myself the
living legend to piss everybody off because they obviously knew

(41:50):
I wasn't. Until you became the actual
deal, so. Yeah, as I got older, I grew
into the part. Right.
Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome.
Who was who is your favorite person to work with?
Like I know that's a hard question.
It is for me and my career was nowhere near like yours, but who

(42:12):
who was like the person that youjust really messed with the
best? You know what, I hate to say
this because it sounds kind of like I'm bragging.
Yeah. But I was so good in the ring
and I had so much heat for people with Chandlery Sucks.
And then I got, you know, like when the Cheat Sheets came out,
they say, oh, so just so stall the lock.

(42:33):
But I never stalled. I just let the people go
berserk. You want to Chandlery sucks for
5 minutes? Yeah, go ahead.
You know, And I did this, did that and you know, and and made
them that. But it was so easy.
But I I don't want to like put myself over and Greg, but I was
so easy in the ring to work withbecause people hated me for real

(42:56):
in real life. They thought I was an asshole.
I had them convinced I was a real asshole.
So I had great matches with, youknow, Bockwinkle with Slaughter,
with Harley Ray's, with Snuka, with Don Morocco.
I mean everybody. I really got in the ring with
was a night off because I had somuch heat and I knew what to do

(43:19):
with it. So there was so many guys.
It's really hard for me to say who's my favorite guy.
They were all great to work with.
Yeah, yeah. Do you do you have AI mean you
just named a lot of names that you know, are arguably people
will argue for and against all you know, he was the best.
No, he was the best. No, he was the best.
Do you have a decisive answer onwho you think the best was?

(43:40):
Because I mean, and this is justand I'm let me say this, let me
say before I say what I'm fixingto say, I was, you know, honored
enough. My friend the rogue dog got me
on Rick Flares last match, pay-per-view.
I was a producer and a talent and I'm thankful for that.
I'm thankful to have been a partof that.
I think Ric Flair is awesome. Do I think he's the best

(44:02):
wrestler ever? And, and and a little bit
overrated in that way, Yes, I do.
Who do you think is the best? Well, in terms of my dream and
my inspiration, to me, Bruno wasthe best because people truly
loved him the most. When Bruno started bleeding and

(44:22):
fell down to the, you know, mat,people in the audience got heart
attack attacks because they believed in Bruno so much they
got heart attacks. It became a sick joke.
Bruno, you're killing our audience, you know.
But there was a lot of great ones.

(44:43):
I mean, Flair, did you? I mean, I stole stuff from guys
like Bruno and some other old school guys.
Flair took a little stuff from Gorgeous George and Buddy
Rogers, you know, with the Nature Boys stuff.
And one of the secrets was beinggood on the microphone.
Flair was good on the microphone.

(45:05):
I was great on the microphone. So I mean, you know, but back
then we do a 2 minute interview.You watch a wrestling show.
Now someone comes out in a suit with a microphone and talks for
15 minutes. It's about we used to be friends
and then someone comes out with a microphone and interrupts

(45:28):
them. It's too much already.
My God. Yeah, yeah.
I'd like to get your thoughts onbecause I'm a Memphis guy and a
lot of our listeners are are from the Memphis territory.
What are your thoughts on Jerry Lawler?
Lola, Lola was one of the greatsand yeah, again, he was a great

(45:51):
in the ring. He was great on the stick.
And me and Lola were going to have a match and I was looking
forward to it. And me and Jerry could have had
a great match. And this was the time when I
think Jerry was up in the AWA and had the belt for a while.
And then I was going to be coming into the AWA.

(46:15):
But right before I got there, Jerry and Vern got into some
argument about a payday and getting paid, which happened a
lot in those days because there was no contracts.
And guys would go out, look at the house and say, well, God,
it's a seller. I should be getting at least
this much, you know. So Jerry and Vern had a

(46:37):
disagreement. And by the time I got there,
Jerry just left. So I went, well, darn.
So I never had a chance to work with them.
Wish I would have because me andJerry would have had a great
match. I never went for Flair.
Me and Flair would have had a great match.
Interesting, very interesting. Oh y'all, yeah you would have
had incredible match. So, so do you have and this is a

(47:01):
little bit different. I'm going to reword it a little
bit. So do you have a match that you
go? That was the match of my career.
Well, I mean, the thing, the thing that made me a name was
the, the, the feud with Bruno, because people remember Shea
Stadium, but we sold out MadisonSquare Garden plus the Phelps
Forum underneath three times, plus the Boston Garden, Billy

(47:24):
Spectrum, Pittsburgh's in the Carina, you know, everywhere we
went for months. But, you know, I mean, as far as
my career went, that that's the feud that made me famous, that
gave me the biggest break I could have got.
Right. Yeah, that makes sense.

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man. Jimmy, before we go talking
about the Unbreakable Bunch, yougot another wrestling question.
I mean, you know, it's kind of funny that.
Do. I mean, of course I do.

(48:31):
Do you have any Bruno stories? Can you tell?
I mean, cuz I think Bruno to me is he's almost like a founding
father to a modern day wrestlingfan.
You know what I'm saying? Like Luthiz, Bruno, San Martino,
these names are just like GeorgeWashington and and Thomas
Jefferson to a lot of modern daywrestling fans.

(48:51):
They knew they exist, they knew they were important, but they
know little to nothing about them.
Can you tell me something that maybe would would surprise
people about Bruno or? Well, I don't know if they
didn't be surprised, but Bruno was really the story of the
American dream for the country because his mother had two sons

(49:13):
of Bruno, and Bruno had a brother.
And when they were kids young, you know, young, young kids,
they were escaping from the Nazis, from Italy and going
across, you know, to try to get to America.
And Bruno's, they'd be hiding inthe hills.
And Bruno's mother would sneak down a mountain at night to get

(49:36):
some bread or something to feed her sons.
One time she got shot in the legby one of the Nazis trying to
get up back into the mountains. And you know, a long, sad story
short, but they made it her mother and Bruno and his brother
made it to America. And when they got here, Bruno

(49:57):
was basically almost dead from malnutrition.
And it's kind of hard to believebecause he looks so ridiculously
powerful, you know? Right.
But but it was because of, you know, and he was one of the guys
and the people knew the story that they escaped from the
Nazis. They made it to a country that

(50:19):
took an immigrants and gave a freedom and, and and he's like a
true story of the American dreamcome true.
And people do that. That's awesome.
That's. Awesome.
And that was a great question, Jimmy.
Oh well, thank you. Yeah, the way you set that up
too, the founding fathers, that was good, really good.

(50:41):
Appreciate it. So OK.
Before and Bruno too, along withhe was a very humble, truthful
guy. His word was his contract, and
when Bruno would talk to people on, you know, interviews, he was
himself and people knew he was areal humble, honest guy who

(51:02):
almost died to get the American Dream but then made it come true
for him and his family. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
One of the greats. Ever.
Yeah, I just thought of something else we got to get
into real quick. Is that this song that I didn't
know? Excuse me for not knowing, but I
did not know anything about thissong you were talking about.

(51:24):
Jimmy, did you know about this song?
I've heard it, Yeah. Yeah, I've heard it.
Yeah. Obviously, you're gonna have to
do my homework. I'm.
I'm gonna feel ashamed, but I I.I'm a man.

(51:50):
That you all love to hate. So come on everybody, I know you
just. Can't wait to.
Move on me to move on me to moveon me.

(52:12):
I need to cry. Oh, I made you see rare when I
picked up a chair. Hey, it's some old man on the
hill. Come on.

(52:40):
You're all jealous. Tell me why.
This is my long golden hair. Oh man, I look like herpes.
Come on. Come on.
Come on, come on, get it out. Hey, I know you're frustrated,

(53:23):
and I know that you all leave Born Alive.
What's that you're telling me? Your biggest threat?
There's all that TV, man, that must really get you when you see
someone like me, huh? I think I need a big Boo.

(53:45):
I think I need a gun Boo. Come on, I need a big fat Boo.
That's the game. Poaching there for those who
take it. It doesn't matter how you get
there. All it counts is that you make
it. What I want you to do now is

(54:09):
move on me. Come on, move on me.
Move on me.

(54:36):
If I come help you, move on me. Talk about that, Larry.

(55:30):
Well, it was just weird because after I turned on Bruno 1980, a
couple guys I knew were buildinga sound studio in their basement
to make records and they asked me if I could help them out when
they tested some new equipment. So I said OK, so I wrote and
sang this one song and I called it oh on me because everybody

(55:53):
was brewing on me and I think I did one take and then I I called
my kind of music I like. So they added some music and
stuff. And this was in 1980.
And then the stupid part for me is I'm kicking myself in the
butt because that was 1980. But by the late 1980s, you know,

(56:15):
the entrances and stuff were changing where guys would come
out to, to music. I think Blair had 2001 or all
get something anyway. And I got poo on me and I never
thought of playing it, Man, idiot.
I'm an idiot. So what?
What? One of one of the guys that pro

(56:36):
wrestling team Tees knew about it.
So you go to prowrestlingtees.com, you can
get a blue on me shirt. I told make it bright yellow and
pick the red blue on me, 'cause if you go to a tee, take the
yellow sticks out in the crowd with the blue on me.
And then when we made the movie The Unbreakable Bunch, the

(56:59):
director Red blue on me and he was going to put it at the end
of the movie when the credits were going up, started with a
wrestling bell and blah, blah, blah.
But for some legalities it didn't.
But it one of my lines in the movie when I was shooting some
aliens, I was going you parasite.

(57:21):
I must say OK, and I've I've watched the movie like 1 1/2
times because I fell asleep and and that was no, not because of
the movie, but just I fell asleep and so I had to rewatch
it. But I'll have to look back at
that. I didn't catch that.
Yeah, catch that? Yeah.
Yeah, Well. And and you know, there's only a

(57:42):
bunch of movie, but well done. And it's not a wrestling movie.
It's a science, it's an action, but it's family friendly, you
know, movie and you know, I, I hope, you know, it's a matter of
publicity, but it's a fun to watch movie again, family

(58:03):
friendly. So I hope, I hope.
And Ray worked his butt off. Him and Luther worked their
butts off for 10 years to get this movie done.
Wow, Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, we, we had him on Ray and
we talked about it and then that, you know, before he came
on, obviously Jimmy and I watched it and I, I liked it.

(58:24):
I mean, it would for what it wassupposed to be, you know, it
was, it was good. And seeing all the guys in
there, I just told him, I told Ray, I said the only part I
didn't like, I said there wasn'tenough Gangrel in it.
I love, I love David, but I and I know I talked to David after
that and he's like, man, I had so much going on, you know, I

(58:44):
couldn't, I couldn't stick around, blah, blah, blah.
But yeah, so it it was a good movie though.
It was a fun. Movie, yeah.
Dave didn't appearance and didn't appearance.
DVD didn't appearance. Some other guys I think I was
busy but the movie I think it's going to be the classic from
bakers Amen movie. It's something different it's

(59:07):
kind of like a cult I I told them once I said you might want
to change the title to plan 10 from outer space.
I like that because they had plan 9, you know, From Outer
Space was a classic, but the Unbreakable bunch, we'll see
what happens. But yeah, it's a fun to watch.
Anybody hears this podcast, check it out.

(59:29):
You can watch it cheap. You know the Unbreakable bunch.
So I just want to say this and I'll let Wolfie go on with his
process here. So you, I, I, I got to say this.
You are the thing that has been missing from all my favorite mob
movies. You could have been in any of

(59:49):
the old school movies with Bogart and stuff, but you could
have been in Casino Goodfellas, you could have been on The
Sopranos. You held every time you were.
And I'm not saying this is not hyperbole.
I promise. I I'm not blowing smoke.
You held the screen when you were on it.
And I think that's just something about you that you you

(01:00:10):
exude, I guess. But man, I was so impressed by
your role in that movie. I really was.
Thank you, Thank you. I got a lot of compliments.
Even the director said, hey Larry, you're the new Jon
Voight. There you go.
I like that that's. Cool.
I took it as a big compliment, so thank you.
Yeah. Larry, man, I'm not going to

(01:00:30):
keep you any longer. And, and again, I, I really,
really, really appreciate you doing this for us and, and
coming on and talking to us. I can keep going man, for days.
But I, I know you got things yougot to do.
And again, thank you so much. Thank you for your career, man.
And and like I told you on the phone privately, I know for a
fact you've called one of my matches before and will try to

(01:00:53):
find it. At any rate, man, thank you so
much. We really appreciate you.
Well, thank you for having me on.
I appreciate it. Everybody can watch the
unbreakable bunch and shoot drone should be on Roku and and
Trilla. Some new thing and some others,
but it may start in like a monthor so, but it's real.

(01:01:17):
It's an ancient sport and it's bone breaking and it's going to
be, it's going to be really interesting to watch.
It's an ancient sport brought back into modern times where
guys can get really hurt. I mean, it's brutal.
Awesome, TuneIn. I'll check it out for sure, and
I'm listeners will too. And then also let's don't forget

(01:01:40):
pro wrestling Tees go to Larry'sis it it's under Larry's
Sabisco, I would assume for the Boo on me and.
Yeah, Larry's Boo on me shirt and then so gangster.
It's so gangster before gangsterwas actually a thing, man,
Because it just sounds like, man, they booing on me, man,
they booing on me. Yeah, You know, I think I

(01:02:02):
figured, I mean, in the bright yellow with the black Boo on me,
it sticks out in the crowd if you're on TV, you know, Yes.
Plus. Genius protesting is perfect for
protesting because you can protest and have Boo on me if
you don't agree with me. I love that.
I love that that's. Great for all you for all you

(01:02:24):
protesters out there. Good old Larry's paid, Yeah, for
a. Rest Boo on me shirt.
Yeah, tell them all. Still.
Traffic with your Larry's Abiscoshirts on.
Yeah, all right, man. Hey, you have a great rest of
your day. And guys, TuneIn, we'll be right
back after these messages. I think Jimmy Wolfie, thank you

(01:02:46):
guys. Have a great one.
Thank you, Sir. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to
Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling, the podcast that's based on the
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(01:03:08):
podcast world. From thought provoking topics to
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Does it all and all they ask is give me back my pro wrestling
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(01:03:31):
Thank you so much living legend Larry's Abisco.
Man, that is awesome. I know super awesome man super
awesome. Thank him so much because I'm
just telling you the setup for this was something that I I
really worked on. I really worked on to talk to
him. I had to put in some time

(01:03:53):
talking to him and got this and made it happen.
And, and thank you so much. Larry's Abisco next week,
another one that is super, super, super cool.
Perry Saturn is going to be on the show next week.
Man, you guys got to tune in forthat one.
A guy that I go way back with, he's got some stories that

(01:04:16):
manned. God, he should write a fucking
book. Like seriously, I think that
would sell a lot. Former Army Ranger.
He's had some UPS, downs in betweens, all that kind of
stuff. Man, Perry Saturn is the man I
love. Perry Saturn to death man, he
beat me to death but I love. Him yeah and I mean it's kind of

(01:04:37):
a full circle episode for us, you know, like he started to.
You were with him so early on inyour career It's.
I can't wait to listen to those stories.
I can't wait to just talk to himand get to ask him a couple
questions and have some fun, Man, I, I, I know he's got an
incredible story and I, I can't wait to dig into it.
So yeah, Y'all TuneIn next week,right?
Tell him. Yeah, absolutely, man.

(01:04:58):
It's it's going to be cool. And again, me and Perry have
talked on the phone here just recently.
We reconnected thanks to Kagus. Yeah.
Yeah, they were they were doing a thing.
Him, him and Sonny Ono. What is that called?
The the Chosen One chop. Shop or something or something?
Yeah, I think you get a contractto Japan or something.

(01:05:19):
Yeah, yeah. Those two were together and
Kahegas hits me up and he's like, I got Perry with me right
now and sends me a picture and puts Perry on the phone and I'm
like, bro, I've been trying to get contacted you forever.
And he's like, nobody told me. So that means the other people
were lying. I'm not, of course, names, but
yeah, I'm not saying names. Piece of shit.

(01:05:42):
But anyway, Perry was happy to talk to me and we talked a few
times and now we've got this worked out so we have him next
week. You sure TuneIn?
Because this is going to be really good.
Hey everybody, Jean Jackson hereinviting you to check out the

(01:06:03):
Retro Wrestling review where each week I'm joined by some
great Co host to help me review classic episodes of USWA
Championship Wrestling. And right now we are doing week
by week reviews of 1993. But we don't just do reviews.
Sometimes we get a chance to interview some of the people who
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(01:06:26):
drop every Wednesday at wrestlecopia.com and define
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Middle Tennessee, the channel you love to hate and the channel
you hate to love. It's Brian Turner from Brian

(01:06:48):
Turner's VHS Rehab. And if you're looking for
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(01:07:15):
So that was another great. Episode.
Hey Wolfie, tell them where theycan find you on social media.
Jimmy, they can find me in the club bottle full above.
I'm just kidding. They can find me on Facebook.
My personal page is Warren Wolf Wolfe.
I'm on Instagram. At Warren Wolf. 13 You can
always find us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and YouTube
at Live Wolfie D Here's the thing.

(01:07:36):
Wolfie always has offers for hisautographed photos.
He has a selections of some awesome photos from throughout
his career that he will autograph and personalize any
way that you wanted to. Just contact him either directly
at his personal Facebook page orthrough anyone of our other
pages and we'll make sure you get in contact directly with.
Wolfie get those photos right, Wolfie?
Yeah, I've got some good stuff on there.

(01:07:58):
You know, to help with the podcast.
Folks, if you can't get out to ashow to meet Wolfie D, there's
nothing like that, especially for the fans of PG13 and Wolfie
D. And before we go, you can always
find me your host, Jimmy Street at Rock St. on Twitter,
Instagram and YouTube. And hey, Jimmy, before we go
real quick, I just want to add in there from the bottom of my
heart, I really appreciate firstof all the work you've.

(01:08:20):
Done for this podcast. You have worked your butt off.
Secondly, the people that are liking the page.
Beyond that, even more is the people that are listening and we
really appreciate. That yeah.
And remember guys, the podcast drops a new episode every Monday
at noon and our past episodes are streaming now on demand on
all major podcast format. Thanks again.

(01:08:41):
Yeah. PG13 Memphis Wrestling Hall of
Fame Classic 2024 Give it up. Spaceman Jones with the beat.
Here we go. The 90s was ours and we did it
with Pride 15. Times.
That chance. What a hell of a ride.
Rock'n'roll couldn't beat us. Natalie and Doug not Smothers.

(01:09:02):
Dirty white boy who called themselves thugs.
It's for terrible H for hell. PG Both been locked up in county
in jail. The kid was real and we were
immature moms. Buddy Wayne couldn't stand us
because we didn't wear socks. We did it our way in and out of
the ring. Bought a real rap swagger to the

(01:09:22):
Memphis thing. You can hate it, you can love
it. We just did our thing.
Still true to the game that we all love.
Fame PG13 Put respect on our name, yeah.

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