The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast

The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast

Welcome to " The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast," where hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie explore the complexities of betrayal and offer guidance on how to recover and transform from its aftermath. Through candid conversations and interviews with experts in the field, Kris and Jenn delve into topics such as healing from betrayal trauma, rebuilding trust, and helping individuals uncover their unique identities. Join us on this journey of self-discovery and transformation as we provide a safe and supportive space for listeners to heal, grow, and learn how to turn trauma into triumph. If you'd like to support our podcast, you can find our Patreon here: https://patreon.com/TheBetrayalRecoveryTransformationPodcast

Episodes

August 13, 2025 โ€ข 56 mins

Gigi Hopkins, Professional Certified Coach (PCC) and Director of Wives Care at Be Broken Ministries, joins us for a candid conversation about how healing from betrayal can produce unexpected gifts. With over 24 years of ministry experience and a passion for walking alongside women in the midst of betrayal trauma, Gigi offers both professional insight and deep personal compassion. She shares her โ€œGifts of Betrayalโ€ list, encouraging...

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In this special episode, weโ€™re joined by Dr. Jake Porter, renowned relational trauma expert, coach, and founder of Daring Ventures. Known for his groundbreaking work helping individuals and couples heal from betrayal and rebuild trust, Jake brings deep insight and compassion to the recovery journey.

Together, we explore the transformative power of integrity-centered healing and learning to be comfortable being uncomfortable. Jake sh...

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May 21, 2025 โ€ข 68 mins

How much truth is too much truth? What if you feel ready for disclosure, but your partner doesn't? Whatโ€™s the actual goal of a therapeutic disclosureโ€”and how do you know when youโ€™re ready?

In this episode, we sit down with Dan Drake, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and expert in betrayal trauma and sex addiction recovery. Dan unpacks the basics of therapeutic disclosure, a structured process where the full truth of sexual b...

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April 24, 2025 โ€ข 53 mins

This week on The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, weโ€™re joined by Amy Elysseโ€”vocal coach, faith-filled encourager, and a radiant light in her community. Amy opens up about her own betrayal story and shares how the human voice, primarily through singing, can become a powerful tool for healing. Whether youโ€™re musically inclined or simply longing to express yourself more fully, Amy brings warmth, insight, and practical wisdom...

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Pornography addiction is one of the most misunderstood struggles in the church today, often shrouded in shame and secrecy. Sam Black, Director of Recovery Education at Covenant Eyes and author of The Healing Church: What Churches Get Wrong About Pornography and How to Fix It, joins us to share how real freedom comes through accountability, grace, and informed support. Drawing from his journalism background and over 70 interviews wi...

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Dr. Anthony Walker joins us to share how he helps men navigate the healing process after betrayal. He provides insights from Help Her Heal, a workbook by Carol Jergensen Sheets, and discusses how men can develop emotional attunement, overcome resistance, and strengthen their relationships.

Key Talking Points:

  • What led Dr. Anthony Walker to Help Her Heal and how he incorporates its strategies in his coaching.
  • The importance of emot...
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In this episode, we welcome Hope Ray, a Licensed Professional Counselor who coined Betrayal Violence. Hope is a leader in the field of betrayal trauma, offering deep insights into the effects of secrecy, deception, and relational power imbalances. She is also the creator of Complex Partner Trauma magazine, available on Amazon, which provides resources and support for betrayed partners.

Throughout our conversation, we dive into Real...

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We had the privilege of sitting down with Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith to discuss the transformative power of the Intimacy Pyramid. With their personal story of betrayal, addiction, and healing as the backdrop, the Raabsmiths shared actionable insights and hope for couples looking to rebuild trust, connection, and relational intimacy.

The Raabsmiths are passionate leaders in the field of marriage and relationship restoration. Combin...

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Weโ€™re excited to welcome Dr. Laura Sanger back to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! Dr. Sangerโ€™s first episode remains the top fan favorite, and we are thrilled to have her return with another timely and profound messageโ€”this time focusing on rest, just in time for the holiday season.

Dr. Sanger is a clinical psychologist, author, and the founder of No Longer Enslaved (www.nolongerenslaved.com), where she equips individu...

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December 11, 2024 โ€ข 66 mins

On today's episode of The BRT Podcast, we welcome the amazing Stacey Smith. Sheโ€™s the Chief Clinical Officer and a Clinical Therapist at Daring Ventures. With a personal recovery journey from betrayal and "stinkin' thinkin'," Stacey uses her lived experience and professional expertise to guide betrayed partners and those suffering from addiction toward healing. She is certified in EMDR therapy and specializes in helping people ove...

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We are thrilled to welcome Elizabeth Abbruzza, the Co-Founder and Clinical Director of the Bellevue Trauma Recovery Center, to the podcast. With a deep focus on relational trauma and betrayal, Elizabeth shares her expertise and details about the impactful Resilience Through Betrayal (RTB) intensives offered at her center.

About Elizabeth Abbruzza: Elizabeth holds a Master's degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Gonzaga U...

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October 28, 2024 โ€ข 64 mins

Introduction: Kris and Jenn sit down with Karen Rellos, founder of Restored Hope Coaching and Redeeming Love Marriage Ministry. Karen, a certified betrayal trauma coach, joins the conversation to shed light on a topic that affects many relationshipsโ€”Intimacy Deprivation, also known as Intimacy Atrophy (IA). With her extensive background in helping women navigate betrayal trauma, Karen offers valuable insights into the causes, impac...

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In this episode, we welcome Diane Schnickels, founder of Living Waters of Hope and a dedicated advocate for survivors of domestic abuse. Diane brings her extensive experience and compassionate approach to discuss when sex addiction crosses the line into abuse. She has developed crucial resources like the Oasis Bible Study and the Hope Giver Essentials training program, empowering women to heal and reclaim their lives. Today, Diane ...

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On this episode of BRT, we have a special guest, Pastor Nick Stumbo. Nick is the Executive Director of Pure Desire Ministries and has an extensive background in pastoral ministry. He began his ministry career at East Hills Alliance Church in Kelso, Washington, where he served as lead pastor for over a decade. Confronted with his own pornography addiction, Nick and his wife, Michelle, found hope and healing through Pure Desireโ€™s co...

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July 18, 2024 โ€ข 58 mins

Welcome to the 20th episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! This is a significant milestone for us, and we're thrilled to celebrate it with a special guest, Debby Flanagan. Debby is a clinician with Pure Desire Ministries, where she serves as a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional. She holds a Bachelor's degree from Corban University and has an Advanced Certification through the International Institute for Trauma an...

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Join hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie for another enlightening episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Today, we welcome back Tammy Gustafson, a renowned betrayal trauma coach, therapist, writer, and speaker. Tammy is here to delve deeper into her "Four Phases of Healing After Betrayal," sharing her expert insights and personal experiences. This episode is packed with valuable information, laughter, and heartfelt mo...

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In this mind-shifting, insightful episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, Jenn and I had the pleasure of hosting Dr. Jill Manning. Dr. Manning is warm, caring, knowledgeable, and passionate about helping women heal. Today, she shares her expertise on a topic she's passionate about ... the impact of snooping, especially in the context of betrayal trauma. Get your notebooks ready, friends. This episode is packed with...

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Adrienne Friesen joins us on this episode about supporting a friend through trauma. She has been our friend for over 20 years and we can attest that she is naturally gifted at supporting and comforting friends during difficult and traumatic times in their lives. Today, she shares her wisdom and practical advice on how to be a steadfast friend during difficult times.

Key Points Discussed:

  • Active Listening: Adrienne emphasizes the ...
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Join hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie in this special Story Spotlight episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Today, they are honored to feature author and speaker Tess Scott, who shares her inspiring journey of overcoming shame and replacing it with forgiveness and stepping into God's purpose for her life.

About Tess Scott: Tess Scott is a hilarious Christian speaker, a "black sheep turned Jesus girl", and the award...

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March 12, 2024 โ€ข 63 mins

Grab a coffee or your favorite cup of tea and curl up with hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie in this enlightening episode inspired by Dr. Jill Manning's thought-provoking Instagram post on Secondary Trauma. This conversation balances depth and lightness as they explore Dr. Manning's list of secondary trauma examples.

Key Highlights:

  1. Insightful Exploration: In this segment, Kris and Jenn delve into the nuances of secondary trauma, o...
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