E4 - Unlocking Precious Promises: Navigating Faith, Forgiveness, and Access to God - The Bible Says Podcast

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Brandon (00:09):
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Matt (00:27):
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church back in scripture.
So the last time that we wereon, we were in an episode and we

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were talking about the greatand precious promises of God.
I hope you watched that.
That was episode number threeand just kind of a refresher
verse is.
We studied the first 15 versesof 2 Peter, 1.
And there's a key verse inthere and it says in verse 4,
whereby are given unto usexceeding great and precious
promises that by these you mightbe partakers of the divine

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nature.
Okay, so what we discovered andexplored the last time that we
were talking is that you havebeen given a divine nature on
the inside of you, at salvationby God, by his divine power, and
what he wants you to do is hewants you to let the divine
nature come out of you and beginto dominate your life, the

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things that pertain to life andgodliness.
Let the divine nature flow outof you.
So how do we do that?
When we talked about it atlength.
Go back and watch episode threeif you have not.
But how you do that is you gainknowledge of God, the Father,
and of Jesus Christ.
And the way you gain knowledgeis through the verse that we
just read that God has given yougreat and precious promises,

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that by these he might bepartakers of the divine nature.
So how do you release thedivine nature into your life?
You get connected to the greatand precious promises of God,
and that's what we were talkingabout.
And of course, if you read onin the chapter, verse number
nine, there's warnings that ifyou aren't connected to the
great and precious promises ofGod, you'll be blind to the

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promises you can't see afar offdown the road, discernment-wise,
you'll forget how forgiven youare.

Matt (03:52):
You forget your forgiveness.
That's the big thing.

Brandon (03:55):
That's crazy, and you can.
You can get so distracted whenyou're not grounded in the word.
Your mind takes over, yourfears take over, your feelings
takes over, your fears take over, your feelings take over.
And you got to ground yourselfon the promises, precious
promises.

Matt (04:09):
Because the promises in the book trump the way you feel
that's right.

Brandon (04:19):
That's right, yep, they take precedence, they trumpet
and basically, how you feel isnot always accurate, yeah, but
God's Word is without error.
So God's Word takes precedent,even when you don't feel like it

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does, and you need to learnthat in your life.
We all do, myself included andall of us, but we want to
encourage you to do that.
So here's what we're going todo on this episode.
We talked about last time thegreat and precious promises.
So what I wanted to do tonight,matt, is I wanted to go through
some of the great and preciouspromises.
You know some things that whenI need some reminding, when I
need well, not when I need it Ineed to be reminded of it

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constantly.
Remember what Peter said.
He said in that first chapter.
He said I'm gonna preach to youthese things over and over
because I'm about to die and Iwant you to remember them, and
when I'm gone, I want you toremember these things because
you need them.
Okay, so he really drives thatpoint home.
So I just thought we'd jump inand we've made a list of some
great and precious promises thatare contained in the word of

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God.
It's not all the great andprecious promises, because it's
a whole book right, but theseare some great ones and I just
wanna share.
I want this to encourage youtonight.
I want it to ground your heartand your mind and I want you to
take these promises and cling tothem.
I said last time it's like asponge, just wring them for
every bit that you can wring outof them, wring the truth, and

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just cling to them for dear life.
That's what we want you to do.
The first thing, when I think ofbeing a Christian, being saved,
being justified, is that youknow, a birth happened in my
life.
And the first thing that I wantto tell you and this is a great

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and precious promise and Iwould love for you, if you want
to take notes, write this down,because you need this Get your
Bible out and write it.
Write in it so you can remindyourself of this.
Here's my number one thing thatI wanted to tell you tonight.
One of the great promises thatGod gives us in his word that
we're to cling to is that whenwe got saved, we were born into

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the family of God.
The Bible says that you, whenyou trusted Christ, were born
into the family of God.
It describes it as a birth.
Jesus in John 3 said you mustbe born again.
Okay, so you are born againinto the family of God, and I
want to show you a couple ofverses.

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Matt's going to show you acouple and I'm going to show you
one or two as well that drivethis home.
So you need these scriptures,write these references down so
you can be reminded of this.
The first one I want to show youis Ephesians, chapter two,
verse 19.
It says now, therefore, you'reno more strangers and foreigners
, but fellow citizens with thesaints.

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Okay, so you have gainedcitizenship.
Say that five times Citizenship.
Is that right?
Okay, you've gained citizenshipwith all of believers from all
time.
You are fellow citizens withthem, but notice this fellow
citizens with the saints and ofthe household of God.

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So you are in the household ofGod, fellow citizens with all
other believers.
There's a connection.
Okay, you're in a family.
Now that you are a believer,you're in the family of God.
That blows my mind that God ismy father, and we're going to

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look at some other verses thatjust drive this home even
further and keep pounded in toour conscience and our memory,
because this is a great andprecious promise.
You know, there's probablypeople out there, matt, that you
know don't feel like theyreally belong anywhere in this
world.
Maybe they've been abandoned,maybe they've been abused, maybe
they didn't have a mom and adad raising them and, whatever

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the circumstances were, theyfeel alone.
You've probably got people outthere listening who are or have
gone through nasty divorces orwhatever and maybe somebody
really wrecked their world,really stabbed them in the back,
hurt them, and they're feelingalone.
But if you're a Christian,you're in the family of God,
yeah.

Matt (08:38):
And you've got a family.
When you're in that family,that church, biblically speaking
, becomes your family.
Not church building, not churchbuilding.
The church is not a building,the church is the people.

Brandon (08:52):
The church is the people, although it is local and
we'll talk about that sometime.
But it's local, but it's theconnection, it's the connection
of the fellowship, yes, yes, yes.

Matt (09:03):
And having that connection and those people, yes, yes, and
that, yeah, and having thatconnection and those people,
yeah, and having God and Christas your family, your father,
brother, lord, yeah, all thosepieces, you know, you kind of
learn to lean on them.

Brandon (09:24):
Yeah, do you have that next verse, romans chapter?
I do, what is it?
Romans 8, 16 and 17.
I think it drives home thispoint a little further 8, 16.

Matt (09:33):
The Spirit itself beareth witness, with our spirit, that
we are the children of God.
So, literally, the Spirit thatyou've got inside of you, the
spirit that was saved, bearswitness that you are a child of
God.
Right the Holy.

Brandon (09:50):
Spirit bears witness, with our spirit, that we are the
children of God.
Yeah, that's phenomenal, you area child of God.
I remember growing up I heardmy pastor and I guess he was
cutting up and he used to tell astory about being on a plane
and he was sitting next tosomebody and got into a
conversation and he's talking tohim and he's like, yeah, he

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goes, my dad owns this airlineand he's just sitting there
telling them that his dad ownsthis and his dad owns that.
And he just takes it and keepsgoing on with this person in
their conversation and I thinkit ended with something like
they were looking out thewindows and saw some path yeah,
my dad owns that path.
And then they're like you'retalking about God.
And he's like, yeah, becauseGod's his father.

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But man, how great is it, whenwe look at it through that lens,
that the spirit, the HolySpirit, bears witness with our
spirit that we are the childrenof God.
Spirit bears witness, with ourspirit, that we are the children
of God.
And elsewhere in scripture itsays that we come and cry Abba,
Father, Daddy, Father.
It's a family we're born into,the family of God.

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Isn't that awesome?

Matt (10:55):
Yeah, and that word Abba is an awesome word.
If you haven't studied thatword, you need to study that
word.
Yeah, it's amazing Because thatis a very intimate father-son
relationship, right?
I mean, it's like saying daddyinstead of just father, right,
right, there's a closeness therethat's implied.
Yeah, absolutely, so continuereading in 17.

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Okay, now this gets actuallyeven better than just being in
the family.

Brandon (11:19):
It gets better.

Matt (11:21):
How it does.
It actually tells you some ofthe benefits of being in that
family.
Okay so, and if children, thenheirs, heirs of God and joint
heirs with Christ Okay, if so,be that we suffer with him, that
we may be also glorifiedtogether, right so promises,

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mm-hmm?
Okay, we're children of God,but what comes along with a kid?
What happens when— Inheritanceright, an inheritance, so we've
got an inheritance from God,right?

Brandon (11:56):
Right Now, that is—that's a phenomenal thought
that God would allow us into hisfamily first of all.
Right, right Now, that is.
That's a phenomenal thoughtthat God would allow us into his
family first of all.
Yeah, right, well, it's kind oflike the prodigal son, remember
he was just suffice it to saylet me in the family, and then
he's like no, you know, you comeback in, here's a feast, here's
this.
He got some things and theother brother received his

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inheritance as well.
But there's an inheritance thatgoes with the family of God.
It is a family dynamic, and oneday we'll talk about
inheritance and rewards.
But this here says that youwill.
You know your heirs of God joinheirs with Christ.
If so, be that you suffer withhim.
It's a conditional.
Like you, how you live yourChristian life can affect your

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inheritance in heaven.
Yes, that's why Jesus said layup for yourselves treasures in
heaven where neither moth norrust doth grow up.

Matt (12:47):
And this statement will probably make some people mad,
because there are people outthere that do not believe this.

Brandon (12:53):
We don't want to make anybody mad.
What statement are you talkingabout, Matt?

Matt (12:57):
Everybody's heaven will not be the same.

Brandon (13:00):
Oh, Matt, you're teasing something that's going
to be controversial, right?
You're exactly right.
Not everybody's heaven is thesame.
Okay, and we'll get into that.
I don't believe everybody'shell is the same either.

Matt (13:16):
I don't think so either.

Brandon (13:17):
Okay, so we'll look at some scriptures on that, but
that's a different topic for adifferent night.
But you are in a family of God.
You're an heir of God and ajoint heir with Christ.
That's phenomenal.
That is phenomenal and itdrives home this point.
One of these great and preciouspromises, the first one that we
wanted to share with you, isthat you're in the family of God
.
That is so awesome.
I've got another one here.

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Was that all of that one?
That's all of that one.
Galatians, chapter three, versenumber 26,.
It says this for ye are all thechildren of God by faith in
Christ Jesus.
Okay, so we are the children ofGod.
We're born into a family.
There's a family dynamic, okay,of being in the family of God,

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and we've just given you two orthree scriptures.
There's more in the Word of God, but this is a promise that you
need to cling to.
If you don't have a family, yes, you do.
If you're a believer in Christ,if you don't feel connected to
anybody, hey, you can feelconnected to Abba, father, your
Father in heaven.
You are in the family of God.
This is good news.

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And listen, don't let your fear, your worry, your anxiety,
depression, your feelings tellyou something, otherwise you are
important to God, you're in hisfamily, and that's something we
need to get a hold of and clingto every day.
And what does it do?

Matt (14:37):
Okay, peter said, if you cling to these promises it's
going to release the divinenature on the inside of you.
And those promises right there,those, the family of God, peace
.
I can attest to that promiseAbsolutely Because when I was a
kid I was kind of a loner, thenerd picked on, et cetera, et

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cetera.
No friends, member of the nofriends club, whatever you want
to call it.
But that was one of the thingsthat brought me closer was
because I relied on thatrelationship when I was a kid
and that relationship brought methrough tough times of being

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alone.
Then I realized I'm never alonebecause I've got this
relationship with Christ andtaking that relationship removed
, that loneliness Absolutely,and leaning on that relationship
.
And when you lean on thatrelationship it builds your

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faith.
It really does.
It builds your desire to knowmore about God Absolutely.

Brandon (15:48):
And that is awesome.
So that's a great promise.
That is a great promise.
The next one that we want togive you tonight is not only are
you in the family of God, buthere's a great one, Okay.
And these first three thatwe're gonna give you are what I
always tell people.
I grew up in the church and havebeen around kind of the lingo,

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and a lot of times we say, hey,have you been saved, have you
been born again?
And people that are just new tofaith, they don't know what
we're talking about.
Right, Born again, saved, whatare you talking about?
Right, Born again, saved, whatare you talking about?
Saved from what?
And then you know, as theylearn the gospel, you learn the
lingo.
So here's what I tell peoplesaved means it means that you're
born in the family of God.
And the second reason is youknow, the second thing that

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happens to you is you're born inthe family of God, number one
but then you receive forgivenessof sins.
Okay, forgiveness of sins.
Now doesn't that sound like anunbelievable?
I mean, that's what we think ofwhen we think of salvation.
Right, that our sins have beenforgiven.
So where in scripture does itsay this Okay, Do you have
Ephesians?
I do.

Matt (16:51):
Ephesians 1, 7.
Okay, in whom we haveredemption through his blood,
the forgiveness of sinsaccording to the riches of his
grace, okay, okay, in whom wehave redemption through his
blood, okay, through his blood.

Brandon (17:08):
And the one that I have here is it says almost the same
thing.
Colossians Another one ofPaul's letters, chapter 1, verse
14.
It says in whom we haveredemption through his blood,
even the forgiveness of sins.
Okay, so you, when you trustedChrist you need this is a great
and precious promise.
What happened?
Your sins were forgiven.

(17:29):
Okay, now I'm going to saysomething here that is maybe
might catch some of you offguard here, but we're going to
see this in future episodes, andwe talked about it in the first
couple as well, and we mighteven touch on it a little bit
tonight in this promises list.

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But when you receive theforgiveness of sins, okay, a lot
of people say, well, was Iforgiven of my past sin, my
present sin or whatever?
You were forgiven of all yoursin?
Okay.
Now the book of Romans uses theword past.
Okay, all sins that are past.
And you know why it does that?
Because from the moment thatyou receive Christ, you are no

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longer a sinner, no longer a sinimputed to you, okay, it's not
credited to your account.
So the moment you receivedChrist and were justified, you
received forgiveness of sins.
So the Bible's very clear thatforgiveness of sins happens at
the moment of salvation.
So, listen, if you're out thereand you're struggling with you

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know, maybe you're a believerand you've just you've fallen
into some sin and done somestupid stuff and look, we're not
going to sugarcoat it.
It's sin in your life.
You need to own that.
You need to go to God First.
John chapter one says you're toconfess that.
Okay, you're not.
But the moment you were savedyou were forgiven of that sin.
Okay, what you got to do now isyou got to own it and you got

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to get back up.
A just man falls seven times,yet rises up again.
Your sins have already beenforgiven.
You cannot be forgiven over andover.
Hebrews 10 tells us you canonly be forgiven once.
But you've got to get up.
So, hey, you're forgiven ofyour sin.
Okay, if you've placed yourfaith in Christ alone, okay.

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So what you need to do is get up.
So if you've struggled with sinand you've let the Lord down
and you've not been living,letting the divine power and the
divine nature come out of you,you know what you need to do.
You need to own that sin andsay Lord, I have been sinning,
I've been doing this, I've notbeen change this and you get
determined.
You get up, get in the Word ofGod, fix what is wrong.

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Correct the wrong things, addthe things back into your life
that used to be there.
Fix it.
Whatever you need to do, getsome counseling or some help
from a pastor or a Christianleader, do whatever you need to
do, but get up and don't staythere, because you are forgiven.
Don't let the enemy keeptelling you oh, you're not
forgiven, you're not forgiven.

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Don't give him that.

Matt (20:04):
Don't listen to it.

Brandon (20:06):
What does the Bible say that Jesus is doing right now?
It says he is sitting at theright hand of the Father, and
what is he doing?
He's interceding for us.
What's the devil doing?
What's the enemy doing?
What's Satan devil doing?
What's the enemy doing?
What's Satan doing?
Our adversary?
He's the accuser.
He's the accuser of ourbrethren.
Okay, so he's bringingaccusations of sin against us to

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Jesus and Jesus says, uh-uh, no, he's forgiven.
He's forgiven, he's justified.
Yeah, okay.
Now, a lot of you out theredon't believe that.
Okay, you don't believe that.
Well, if you sin after you'resaved, then that's something
brand new and you got to getre-forgiven for it.
You cannot be rebirthed again.

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You cannot be reborn again,again.
It doesn't work like that.

Matt (20:54):
Yeah, and the whole piece about crucifying Christ again
Right from Romans, I mean thatpiece.
Hebrews yeah, that piece rightthere says that.
To me, that is my strongestverse for not being able to lose
your salvation.

Brandon (21:15):
Because you put Jesus back on the cross and bring him
to an open shame right.

Matt (21:18):
Yeah, because there is no one who has not committed a sin
after their salvation.

Brandon (21:25):
Really, some of you out there may think that you're the
exception, but you're not.
No.

Matt (21:33):
But that right there tells me that.
Because if that was true, ifyou could lose it, most
Christians would have lost it.
If you could lose it, I wouldhave lost it, all Christians
would have lost it.
Right, that's right.

Brandon (21:47):
And you can't get it back.
That's what it says, if you'reconsistent in your
interpretation.
But we'll have to dig intoHebrews one night because we'll
start a fight over that Hebrews6, probably the most
controversial passage in all theBible.
But we're going to do that onenight.
We should just do a wholeseries on controversial passages

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in the Bible.
That would be kind of coolbecause there's so many.
So we receive the forgivenessof sins.
So what is the great andprecious promise?
I'm in the family of God.
I receive the forgiveness ofsins.
Now I want to you have theverse in Romans yeah, romans 3
and 24.
Romans 3, 24.
And this is under the samebanner of forgiveness of sins,

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but it uses the word justified.
So listen closely as Matt readsthis.

Matt (22:32):
Being justified freely by his grace, through the
redemption that is in ChristJesus.
Through the redemption that isin Christ Jesus.

Brandon (22:39):
Okay, so we are justified freely by his grace.
All right, the word justifiedis a legal term.
Okay, If you study this verse,it is a legal term which you go
before a judge and he looks atyou and he declares you
righteous no more sin, you'rerighteous, no more wrongdoing.

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It literally means.
The word justified literallymeans declared righteous.
So think about that for asecond.
When you, you're not only inthe family of God, but all your
sins have been forgiven, okay,and not only that, but you have
been declared righteous,righteous Judicially.

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You have been declared by thejudge.
Okay, the king of kings.
You've been declared righteous.
And so, if he declares yourighteous, why in the world are
you beating yourself up over sin?

Matt (23:34):
Yeah, there are so many courtroom scenes in the Bible,
right, there are so manycourtroom scenes in the Bible,
so many legal you know what wethink of as court proceedings in
the Bible so many terms, thatwe get the accuser and then
Christ being our paraclete,right, our lawyer, yep, and

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basically saying no Advocate,yeah, right, our lawyer, yep,
and basically saying no Advocate, yeah Advocate, he's got it
covered, he has covered our sins, right, and being declared
righteous.
I mean, that's like the judgesmacking the gavel down Not
guilty, yeah, it's covered, it'scovered, it's taken.

(24:17):
His tariff, it's already beenpaid for.
You don't get the speedingticket.
You don't have to pay for thespeeding ticket because somebody
paid for it.

Brandon (24:24):
Right, and so Jesus paid for it.
We sing the song Jesus paid itall, so he paid it all, and that
means that you don't owe any ofit.
No, you've been declaredrighteous, your sins are
forgiven and you've beendeclared righteous justified.

Matt (24:38):
Now.
So spiritual forgiveness doesnot necessarily equal worldly
forgiveness.
Explain that I can be forgivenby God.
You got somebody on death row.
They came to Christ whilethey're on death row, They've
been forgiven by God.

Brandon (24:58):
If they came to Christ right, They've been justified.
They've been forgiven by God.
If they came to Christ right,They've been justified.

Matt (25:02):
They've been justified.
Okay, that doesn't necessarilyget them out of the worldly
consequences for that sin thatthey committed.
Right, absolutely, you can-.

Brandon (25:10):
That's an extreme example but it is.
If you're a Christian, you arecapable of sin.
Okay.
If you're a Christian here, youcan blow up your marriage.
Okay.
If you're a Christian here, youcan do stupid, illegal stuff
and end up in jail.
Okay, it doesn't mean that yourfaith was never real or never

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genuine in the Lord.
If you've been saved, you'resaved okay.
If you've been declaredrighteous, you're declared
righteous.
God said he's not going tocondemn you for your sins as far
as the punishment for thosesins, but you can still have the
consequences in this life.
Is what you're saying?
Absolutely, absolutely.
Another verse that drives homejustification is this Romans 5,

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verse 1.
It says, therefore, beingjustified by faith.
I love this.
We have peace with God throughour Lord Jesus Christ.
Did you know that you havepeace with God tonight?
If you are a believer in theLord Jesus Christ, here's a
promise I have peace with God.
Okay, I'm not.
Did you know?
You're not at odds with God?
God is not like?
Oh, I don't like them, I don'twant them, they're not good

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enough to talk to me or pray tome.
You have peace with God, okay,not because of anything you've
done.
You have done, but what does itsay?
It says, therefore, beingjustified by faith, we have
peace with God through our LordJesus Christ.
It's Jesus Christ and the faithin him that brought peace
between, and reconciliationbetween you and the Father.

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You do not have to hang yourhead down in shame to go to the
Father.
The Father welcomes you intohis family because you've been
justified and now you have peacewith God.
That's a wonderful, wonderfulpromise.
I think we've got another onethat drives this home in
Galatians, chapter number two,Chapter two, verse 16.

Matt (26:53):
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the
law but by the faith of JesusChrist, so there justified Jews
several times in that verse.

Brandon (27:19):
You cannot buy.
The end of the verse says bythe works of the law shall no
flesh be justified.
You cannot work for salvation.
You can only by faith in JesusChrist.
Believe in Jesus Christ and bejustified by the faith of Christ
.
It says Okay, the only thingthat you can do to save yourself
is realize you can't saveyourself.
Stop trying to work, all right.
There's no work that you can doto save yourself.

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Stop trying to work, all right.
There's no work that you can doto save yourself.
You cannot go to church.
That's not going to help you,okay.
You're not going to do goodworks and assist the little old
ladies and feed the poor and allthat, and it counts toward
heaven.
Okay, you can give money to a501c3 or a church or whatever.
You can be a pastor, okay, andwork all right.

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Jesus said in that day peopleare going to come to me and say
didn't we cast out demons inyour name?
Didn't we do this?
Didn't we do that?
And he's going to say departfrom me.
I never knew you, not.
I knew you and you lost it.
Not, I knew you and you blew it, but I never knew you why.
Because they were trusting intheir works.

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Works do not save you.
By the way, let me stir the pothere, because this is a rising
trend, okay, and this is justhorrible theology, and you guys
are.
If you believe this, you'reignorant of the Bible.
Okay, I'm just gonna say thisIf you believe that you have to
be baptized to be saved, I amblown away by how many teachers
are preaching that you must bebaptized to complete the

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salvation process.
Let me tell you something youcan get wet all day long in a
baptistry pool, a lake, a river,a creek, whatever you're gonna
do.
We're in the country, in themountains of North Carolina, and
we still baptize, sometimes increeks and rivers and lakes and
all that kind of stuff.
Baptism does not save you.
It shows what happened to youinwardly.

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We're going to teach onbaptismal regeneration and we're
going to blow this Church ofChrist doctrine out of the water
because there's so many outthere.
I mean, you're preaching thiscrap and you are confusing
people and I've heard somepreachers call you guys out and
you need to be called out.
And man, I hope, if you'reteaching that stuff, I hope that
your podcast flops.
I hope that you don't get topreach anymore, because you're

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preaching false doctrine.
Okay, you're adding works tosalvation, and that really makes
me mad.
Okay, because you—and serious.

Matt (29:37):
Just tell us how you feel.

Brandon (29:38):
Brandon, I'll tell you how to go, but it's, it really
bugs me.
Okay, stop attaching works tosalvation.
It does not belong there.
And hey, paul said you are tobe accursed from the church if
you preach any other gospel andif you add anything to salvation
, you're preaching anothergospel and and and on this
podcast and anywhere we go,we're going to call that stuff

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out.
Okay, so just be, but I'mreally a nice guy.

Matt (30:04):
This one verse period shows that nothing that you do
has the impact on your salvation.
You cannot do anything to besaved or anything to be unsaved
If it starts with I think wesaid this one time before if it
starts with I, it's the wronganswer to why you were saved.

Brandon (30:25):
Paul sums it up in Romans 8 when he says height nor
depth, angels, principality,nothing can separate us from the
love of Christ.
Okay, well, he still loves you,but you can still lose your
salvation.
No, romans 5 says his love waspoured into your heart by the
Holy Ghost.
When you received and believedon him, you are made a partaker

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of the love of God.
It's literally the Greek word.
It means it was poured.
He was poured into your heart,the love of God through the Holy
Spirit, and you cannot beseparated from the love of God.
Okay, so we'll talk abouteternal security later, because
let's let the cat out of the bag.
The Bible says podcast.
Speaking for myself and I don'twant to put words in Matt's

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mouth, but I know the words thathe would say you cannot lose
your salvation, okay.
You cannot sin your way out ofsalvation.
And let me say this you cannotfreely walk away from your
salvation, okay.
You cannot freely choose to besaved and then not be saved.
Well, see, what about apostasy?

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We're going to talk about that.
Show me apostasy of a Christianin the New Testament.
Show me one.
Give me an example.
Well, Judas.
Judas was never saved.
I've even had people sayLucifer, really Lucifer, all
right.
Well, demas has forsaken me.

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Demas forsook Paul.
He didn't forsake Jesus.
He got discouraged and quit.
Have you ever done somethingstupid and get discouraged and
quit?
Okay, he did not apostatize.
Okay, you cannot walk away fromyour faith once you've placed
it in Christ.
If it's true and genuine faith,it remains.
Can you rebel and backslide?
Yes, but you will always remainsaved.

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Okay, and I stand by that andI'll get some crap for that.
Okay, but that's what the Bibleteaches.

Matt (32:20):
I didn't write the book, we just teach it Again my
opinion of that is their God'snot big enough.
If they believe that, yep, theydon't believe in a big enough
God.

Brandon (32:30):
Or the power of his blood.
Romans 10.
You don't think his blood ispowerful enough to keep you.
Paul says you're not kept byyourselves, You're kept by the
power of God.

Matt (32:40):
Okay, so yeah let's move on from that.

Brandon (32:43):
We're talking about promises, not debating false
doctrine.

Matt (32:46):
Eternal life.

Brandon (32:47):
So, yeah, so you have.
You're in the family of God.
That's a great promise.
You have forgiveness of sinsand justification, declared
righteous.
And the third that we alwaystell people is what does it mean
to be saved?
Well, it means that you're inthe family of God, it means that
your sins are forgiven andyou're justified in God's eyes,
and it means that you haveeternal life.
Okay, what's the most famousverse in the Bible, matt?

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Do you have that one?
John 3.16.
What does that say?

Matt (33:13):
Just for everybody who might not know, it says for God
so loved the world that he gavehis only begotten son that
whosoever believeth in himshould not perish but have
everlasting life.

Brandon (33:22):
Everlasting life.
That kind of puts an end tothat eternal security debate.
By the way, everlasting meansnever stopping.
All right, that means itdoesn't stop If you buy.
You remember the Duracellbattery commercials with the
rabbit?
No, that's Energizer.
Right, that's Energizer, okay.

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So that's how they.
What never stops, it just keepsgoing and going and going and
going.
So that's how they.
What never stops, it just keepsgoing and going and going and
going.
That's what.
Everlasting?
That's what that means.
Okay, eternal, everlasting.
All right.
So you have that.
Now get this, you don't die, andthen get eternal life.
From the moment you believe youhave eternal life from then on.

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Did you know that?
Did you know I will never die?
I'll never die, you will neverdie.
This body will die, but Romans5 and 6 teaches this.
Ain't me.
This is the housing that housesme.
The Greek word is orcheterion,and we desire a new housing from

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on high.
Okay, and I always say it likethis, it's like our phones, okay
.
So every once in a while, everyyear or two, you go in and you
know, I think Apple slows thesephones down on purpose to make
me go buy another one.
They got something screwy goingon.
But anyway, when you go in andupgrade your phone.
What do you do?
You back up.
I don't know how you you're,what are you?

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Are you one of those Androidpeople?
I'm an Android person.
Okay, we're not going to talkabout that.

Matt (34:57):
Even though I've got the MacBook here, I am an Android
person.

Brandon (35:04):
You are half in, half out.
You're neither hot nor cold.

Matt (35:06):
I use the better.
Spew you out of my life.
I use the better product forthe— For the podcast.

Brandon (35:11):
For the purpose of it.
I got you We'll debate thatlater but when you go in and
upgrade your—as an Apple guy yougo in, upgrade your phone, okay
, so what do you do?
You have an Apple ID and youback up all your stuff to Apple

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and then you go in and you pickout a new phone and they can
take it and as long as youuploaded and backed up your
stuff that's the first stepthey're going to tell you to do
then they take that new phoneand they upload all of your data
through the cloud.
However, they do it into thatnew phone.
So you had an old phone thathad your pictures and your text
messages and your emails andyour notes and all this stuff,
and what do you have now?
You have a new phone, all right, with the same stuff.
That's what's going to happento you.

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You have an outer coveringwhich is your body, but it's not
you.
We talked about body, soul andspirit, I think, in episode two.
Okay, body, soul and spirit.
All right, your spirit was bornagain.
Okay, the day you werejustified, your mind is being
renovated by God.
Your mind, your emotions, yourwill that's your soul.
That's you, your personality,your likes, your dislikes, what

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you think, what you don't think,what you're into, what you're
not into.
And then your body?
Okay, and so you were saved,justified, you're being
sanctified in your mind and thenone day, your body will be
changed.
You're not going to take thisbody to heaven?
Okay, because this ain't you.
This is going to be claimed bysin and death.

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Okay, but not you.
You are going to be uploaded toa new body, is what I'm trying
to say.
So you have eternal life.
Right now, you will never dieif you know the Lord, jesus
Christ.
That's a promise worth takingto the bank.
Romans 6.23 says it this wayfor the wages of sin is death,
but the gift of God is eternallife through Jesus Christ, our

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Lord.
It's only through Jesus, butthe gift is eternal life.
I don't know how many times Ihave told people in my life and
talking to them about salvation,that God compares salvation to
a gift that he's holding out toyou, and all you have to do to
take a gift is just reach outand receive it.
Okay, you believe it.

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On the day of Pentecost, whenPeter preached, the Bible says
that when they heard him, theybelieved and they received, okay
, his words.
What do we do?
Well, you know, and he toldthem what to do.
They received it.
And it says that in the book ofActs that might not have been
Acts chapter two, it might havebeen a couple chapters later,
but it says that they receivedwhat he was preaching, what he

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believed.
You know what he was tellingthem.
Okay, the gift of God is eternallife.
All you got to do is reach outand take it.
If you know you're a sinner andyou admit that, okay.
And you know that there'seternal life and you want that.
But it only comes through Jesusand his death, burial and
resurrection.
But he died for your sin.
If you're willing to acceptonly Jesus as your only way to

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heaven, your only way to thefamily of God, to forgiveness of
sins, to having eternal life,then all you need to do is, from
your heart, just receive Christ.
That could be praying a prayer,that might be how you do it,
but you need to receive him fromyour heart, okay, and from a
heart of belief.
Obey from the heart that formof doctrine that was delivered

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unto you.
Romans says okay.
When I was seven years old, Isaid yes to Jesus.
I knew I was a sinner and Iknew I needed him.
And my mom told me she said, ifyou want to be saved, just call
out to Jesus.
And I said, dear Jesus, save me.
And he saved me in that moment.
He forgave my sins.
I have eternal life.
I'm in the family of Godbecause I believed in that
moment.
Belief from your heart, if younever have, that Jesus is God

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and that he died for you and heloves you.
And guess what?
Then you have eternal life.
You know what?
Another great promise is Matt,that we receive when we get
saved.
And this is unbelievable andwe're going to do a whole
episode on him.
The Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit.
Did you know that the HolySpirit dominated Jesus' last few

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hours?
It dominated what he told thoseclosest to him in his final
hours.
Yeah, john, chapter 14, 15, 16,and the high priestly prayer of
John 17.
What does he do?
Much of that is devoted to hey,the comforter's coming.
I'm gonna send him.
He's gonna teach you all things, he's gonna remind you all
things.
The Holy Spirit of God, you aremade a partaker.

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Let's look at that real quick,john 14, I think it's what 16
through 18.

Matt (39:40):
Okay, and I pray the Father and he shall give you
another comforter, that he mayabide with you forever, even the
spirit of truth, whom the worldcannot receive because it seeth
him not, neither knoweth him,but ye know him, for he dwelleth

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with you and shall be in you.
I will not leave youcomfortless.
I will come to you.

Brandon (40:07):
That's awesome.
I will not leave youcomfortless, I will come to you.
That's awesome.
I will not leave youcomfortless, I will come to you.
So Jesus says I'm leaving, butI'm going to send the comforter,
the Holy Spirit of promise.
And I love this too, because ifyou look what's the second to
the last verse there that youread, it says he is with you and
shall be in you.

Matt (40:25):
Yes, I love that.

Brandon (40:29):
For he dwelleth with you and shall be in you.
So in that timeframe, jesus issaying because Jesus has not yet
gone to the cross, he's notbeen killed, buried and rose
again.
Because after he rises from thedead, he begins to tell.
In his resurrected body, hebegins to tell people wait for
the promise, stay in Jerusalemtill the Holy Spirit shows up.
So we receive the Holy Spirit.

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From the time of the day ofPentecost on, we are indwelt by
the Holy Spirit and we're gonnatalk about that at length, but
that is just phenomenal.
So, the Holy Spirit of God, didyou know that you receive the
Holy Spirit, god's presence,god's presence.
And, by the way, do you knowwhat raised Jesus from the dead?

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Bible says that the same spiritthat raised Christ from the
dead dwells in you.
Okay, so the power, the samespirit that raised Jesus from
the dead dwells in you From themoment you become a believer and
you accept Christ as yourSavior.
What are you?
You're in the family of God,you're forgiven of sins, you

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have eternal life, and thenyou're a receiver of the Holy
Spirit of God.
But to me, it even gets betterand better as you study this
more and more.
In Ephesians 1, verse 13,.
Listen to this.
It says In Ephesians, chapterone, verse 13,.
Listen to this.
It says in whom ye also trusted.
Okay, after that, you heard theword of truth, the gospel of
your salvation.

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Okay, so how do you get saved,how do you get the forgiveness
of sins in eternal life?
You trust in the word of truthabout Jesus, the gospel.
You trust Jesus after you hearthe gospel.
It says in whom, also, afterthat, you believed you were

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sealed with that Holy Spirit ofpromise.
Okay, you were sealed with thatHoly Spirit of promise.
Did you know the Holy Spiritseals you?
Have you guys ever seen likethey used to do this back in the
medieval times?
And you know well, probably noteven medieval, but two or 300
years ago.
They'd write letters and theywould take like a letter and

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instead of licking the envelopeand sealing it okay, that's how
we do it now wax and they wouldlike have a signet ring and they
would stamp the king's ring orthe, you know the, whoever it
was, the dignitary and he wouldstamp.
And you know that that has notbeen tampered with.

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If the seal has not been broken,the Bible says that the Holy
Spirit is our seal.
Okay, so he seals me.
That means that I cannot betampered with, I am on my way, I
have eternal life, I'm in thefamily of God, my sins are
forgiven and, to top it off, theFather sent.

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Jesus said that he was going tosend the Comforter, and we find
out in Ephesians that theComforter seals us.
We're sealed with that HolySpirit of promise.
Then it says in verse 14, whichis the earnest of our
inheritance?
You know what the Holy Spiritis?
He's a down payment on what'sto come.

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It's very legal terminology,yeah, absolutely.

Matt (43:45):
So he's a down payment.
What happens if you lose yourearnest money if you buy real
estate?
Well then, or what happens ifyou don't go through with the
purchase when you're buying realestate?
Right, you would lose yourmoney, you'd lose your earnest
money Right.
So is God going to lose part ofhimself, right?

Brandon (44:01):
So that's a great thought for you.
So if Romans 5 says that hepours into your heart the love
of God through the Spirit that'sgiven to you at the moment of
salvation, you're sealed at themoment of salvation and the Holy
Spirit is the earnest of ourinheritance, he's the down
payment, and it says until theredemption of the purchased
possession unto the praise ofhis glory.

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So for now, what you get is youget the Holy Spirit until you
get the rest of what God has foryou in your inheritance, okay.
So if God poured his HolySpirit into you, okay, and your
Holy Spirit is there and hesealed you, how are you going to
lose your salvation and Godthrow you into hell?

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If he throws you into hell,he's got to throw the Holy
Spirit into hell.

Matt (44:48):
Yeah, that would probably not be good.

Brandon (44:52):
It would be impossible.
Yeah, it'd be impossible.
Okay, so you are sealed.
You are a receiver of the HolySpirit.
Okay, so these are greatpromises.
Okay, you're in the family ofGod.
You've been forgiven of sins,you have eternal life.
You are a partaker of the HolySpirit.
You've been sealed.

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He's the earnest guaranteeingyour inheritance.
Okay, unbelievable stuff.
Did you know?
Here's something that you guysneed to be reminded of as well.
It's a great promise.
You are a new creation inChrist.
Okay, see, you think of maybeyou're sitting out there and
you're 40 years old, or 50 yearsold, and you just received
Christ and just trusted Christ,all right, and you still
remember all the bad that youdid in your 20s and 30s and 40s

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and all that kind of stuff.
Okay, when God looks at you, helooks at you as a brand new
baby born into his family, andthe old man, the sinful man, is
gone.
Okay, because you're a newcreation.
You need to remind yourself ofthat.
Some of y'all are still beatingyourself up for sins that you
did 10, 15, 20 years ago.

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Okay, and you weren't evensaved yet.
And God's forgot it.
He separated that sin as far asthe East is from the West.
If he don't remember, why areyou?
And, by the way, people aremean and sometimes people hold
things over your head that youdid you weren't even saved 10
years ago.
Tell them people to shut up,read your Bible and remind

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yourself of the promises of God.
Hold your head high and throwyour shoulders back and walk
through life.
You're a new creation.
2 Corinthians 5.17, everyevangelist's favorite passage of
scripture.
2 Corinthians.
What does that say?

Matt (46:31):
Matt.
Okay.
Therefore, if any man be inChrist, he is a new creature.
Old things are passed away.
Behold, all things are becomenew.

Brandon (46:42):
So you're a new creature.
Now, that's King James language.
Yes, if you look up that wordcreature, it means creation.
You're a brand new creation.
Okay, you, Matt.
When did you get saved?
What year was it?
Do you remember?
I don't remember.
Are you saved?
I was Do math.
I don't know.

Matt (47:00):
Was that in the 70s or 80s ?

Brandon (47:02):
or 60s.

Matt (47:04):
Easy.
That would have been in the 80sIn the 80s Me too, okay.

Brandon (47:09):
So when I received Christ, I became a new creation.
So I was born in July of 81,but in October of 88, I became a
new creation in Christ, and Godlooks at me in that way as a
new creation.
Behold, all things have becomenew.
That's not talking about yourbody.
Your body becomes sinless whenyou get saved.

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That's not what it's talkingabout.
Okay, you can still sin afteryou're saved.
It's not talking about yourmind.
Your mind doesn't automaticallythink the right thoughts
because you've been saved.
It's talking about, in thespirit, you are a brand new
creation, yeah, but all thingshave become new, brandon Well.
Brandon, well, yeah, well, Imean, there's just so much

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Scripture that contradicts that.
Baby Christians in maturity andChristians that are doing
willful sin in the New Testamentthat are getting scolded and
reprimanded.

Matt (48:01):
Yeah, and they're believers.
If you dig into that, it'stalking about your spiritual man
.

Brandon (48:06):
Absolutely.
Yep, that's what it's talkingabout in context and that's how
we roll here.
You got to put it in contextand rightly divide the word of
truth and not just pick andchoose and cherry pick your
favorite verses.
Okay, now notice this for inChrist Jesus, neither
circumcision this is Galatians,chapter six, verse 15,.

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For in Christ Jesus, neithercircumcision availeth anything,
nor uncircumcision, but a newcreature or a new creation.
You are a brand new creation inChrist, and we got one more on
being a new creation in Romans,chapter six, verse six.
Matt, you got that one.

Matt (48:44):
Okay, knowing this, that our old man is crucified with
him, that the body of sin mightbe destroyed, that henceforth we
should not serve sin, Okay, sothe body of sin might be
destroyed, that we should notserve sin.

Brandon (49:03):
We are a new creation.
The old man is gone.
What remains is the newcreation in Christ, and this is
validated.
We give you three scriptures tovalidate this promise, but
there's many more that drivehome this point.
Now, this next blessing andpromise.
Remember we're reminding you ofpromises, because it's the

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promises that unlock theknowledge of who you are and
knowledge about God, knowledgeabout Christ, and it unleashes
the divine nature on the insideof you to come out and to live.
Godly God flows through you,lives through you, all things
that pertain to life andgodliness.
When you access these promisesand remind yourself of them,
peter preached these over andover and over 2 Peter 1.

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He says I'm not gonna stoptelling you all these things.
Okay, what's he telling them?
He's telling them what happenedthe promises of God.
And the next promise that wewanna show you is this.
Now, this is controversial, allright, and I wanna hit this head
on Sin.
Here's the promise From themoment you receive Christ as
your savior, you are no longer asinner.

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Sin is no longer charged toyour account.
Okay, sin is no longer imputedto you.
I cannot tell you how manypeople have stumbled and choked
on this truth, but it is in yourBible as much as John.
3.16 is okay, and I'm going toshow you the primary passage

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where it's used.
Romans, chapter four.
The book on salvation is thebook of Romans.
In Romans, written by Paul, hesays this In chapter number four
, verse five.
It says but to him that workethnot, but believeth on him that
justifieth the ungodly, hisfaith is counted for
righteousness.
So when I believe in Jesus, myfaith is counted.

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That is an accounting term.
Okay, it means credited.
All right, if you take yourcredit card and you swipe it at
Lowe's or Home Depot or at arestaurant, your account is
charged for that purchase.
Okay, then it says in versenumber six even as David also

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described, with the blessednessof the man under whom God
imputed Okay, there's anotherword that we don't use very much
anymore, but it means chargedto the account of.
It's an accounting term.
So David describes theblessedness, or how blessed, the
man whom God imputeth.

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Righteousness without works.
Now we're not to thecontroversial part yet, because
everybody, every Bible-believingperson that believes that you
can get saved by grace, throughfaith, understands that it's not
by works.
It's not by works,righteousness with no works.
So righteousness was creditedto my account with no works.
But now watch this verse 7.
It says David quotes, and it'squoting Psalm 32 here, the first

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two verses.
It says saying blessed are theywhose iniquities are forgiven
and whose sins are covered.
Now watch this Blessed is theman to whom the Lord will not

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impute sin.
The Lord will not impute sin tothe man who has had his
iniquities forgiven, his sinscovered, not by works, but by
faith.
God does not impute that is theword charged to the account of
any more sin.
Okay, so from 1988, all right,the moment I was saved in
October, until now my flesh hassinned, but not one of those

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sins has been charged to myaccount, because they were all
paid by Jesus Christ.

Matt (52:45):
You're getting charged to his account, yeah.

Brandon (52:49):
Now Romans 10 drives us home, teaches it, because it
says the blood of bulls andgoats was not powerful enough to
keep you saved because you hadto come, and I'm paraphrasing
had to come year after year tocontinually offer the sacrifices
.
But now Jesus has offered onesacrifice for sin forever.
Okay, that's what it says.
All right, so he paid for allsin all at once, for all time.

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Okay, and when I am baptized,not by water but by belief into
him, I receive forgiveness forall time of my sin and I am no
longer a sinner.
Okay, my sin is not credited tome.
All right.
Now, that's controversial.
When I say I'm not a sinner inGod's eyes, I'm justified.

(53:38):
Now, can my flesh sin?
Can my mind think the wrongthings?
Yes, but that's not me,remember.
I am the new creation.
This is what we've got to getstraight in our head.
I am the new creation.
This is what we've got to getstraight in our head.
I'm the new creation.
I have a birth date.
Physically, you must be born ofwater and of the spirit John 3.

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That's not talking about water,baptism.
It's talking about whatsoeveris born of flesh is flesh.
Whatsoever is born of thespirit is spirit.
You have a flesh born date andyou have a spiritual born date,
and the spiritual you is thereal you.
Romans 6 says the old you wascrucified with Christ.
He doesn't exist anymore.
You have eternal life.
Behold, all things have becomenew.

(54:20):
Second Corinthians 5, 17.
Okay, so this is what we've gotto settle into our mind.
Anything to add to that?
No.

Matt (54:28):
Sin is no longer imputed, no longer imputed, that's
another legal term.

Brandon (54:33):
That's right.

Matt (54:35):
It's almost like this is a legal binding contract in here.

Brandon (54:38):
Wow, almost like God's smart as a lawyer, right.

Matt (54:44):
Yeah, I think he set up the law.
Yeah, he gave us the law.
He's the lawyer, that's right.
He sealed us.
Jesus is our paraclete, ouradvocate, our paraclete, our
advocate.
It's ironclad, yep, you knowit's.
When God makes the contract, itnever gets broken.

Brandon (55:03):
That's right.
That's right.
Let's look at a couple more.
Not only is no longer sinimputed, but guess what and we
looked at this earlier Romans5.1,.
It says that we have peace withGod.
Therefore, being justified byfaith, we have peace with God
through our Lord, jesus Christ.
We have peace with God.
Okay, god's not mad at you.
If you've trusted him as yoursavior, you've put your faith in

(55:27):
his blood to save you, you arereconciled and at peace with God
and you need to take.
God's not mad at you.
God loves you.
He's crazy about you.
The book of Psalms says I thinkit's Psalms says that if you,
that he thinks about you so muchthat you can't fathom and you
couldn't you know the grains ofsand on all the seashores.

(55:47):
Yeah, I mean.
He knows how many the number ofyour hairs on your head.
He loves you, he dotes on you.
He loves you, okay, god loveshis people, god loves his
children and you're in thefamily of God.
You have peace with God.
Not only do you have peace, butlook at the verse number two
Not only do we have peace withGod through our Lord, jesus
Christ, by whom also we haveaccess, by faith, into this

(56:11):
grace wherein we stand andrejoice in hope of the glory of
God.
I love this.
Not only do we have peace, matt, but we have access.
Did you know you have access toGod?
You have access to God.
I can go to God's word, I canread it and the Holy Spirit will
speak to me.
I can go to prayer and I cantalk to the God that made the

(56:32):
world, you and everything that'sin the world.

Matt (56:36):
I have access, and that's awesome because it goes all the
way up to the number one promise.
You're in the family of God.
Isn't that awesome?
So you can go to your fatherand talk to him, isn't?

Brandon (56:49):
that awesome so you can go to your father and talk to
him.
Have you guys ever gone to aconcert where they're?
You know, we've had someartists here at our church and
you know they're you knowwell-known Grammy winners and
stuff like that and you get tospend a little time and
sometimes you're like, oh, oh,wow, that's so-and-so.
And man, wow, I have access tothem, I'm the pastor of the

(57:12):
church and there they are and wegot to talk to them in my
office.
I got to eat a meal with themand sit and shoot the bull, and
then you're like, oh, wow,that's really really cool.
Let me tell you this thosepeople, as good as they are,
they're not God.
As good as they are, they'renot God, and you have access 24
hours a day as a believer inChrist, as a child of God, to

(57:33):
the Father.
Okay, let me say this to you aswell, because a lot of people
from a lot of differentbackgrounds listen to this.
No doubt, and I want to saythis to you you do not need me a
preacher to get you access toGod.
Did you know that I don't haveany pull for you to get you
closer to God?
Did you know that you don'thave to go through a pastor or a

(57:58):
preacher or a minister or abishop or a apostle or a priest
or a pope to get to God.
Did you know that you can't?
I'm going to let y'all in on alittle secret the pope can't get
you closer to God.

(58:20):
If you're a believer in Jesus,you have access.
You don't need a pope.
And let me just poke theCatholic church here for a
second.
Yeah, and let me just poke theCatholic church here for a
second.
There's no man.
I don't care if it's a pope, apriest.
Nobody can absolve you of sins,except Jesus Christ.
You come to Jesus.
He gives you his righteousnessand takes your sin.

(58:41):
He's the only one that can doit.
You don't have to go throughanybody else.
You don't have to go through achurch or a denomination or a
priest okay, you don't have togo through anybody else.
You don't have to go through achurch or a denomination or a
priest okay, you don't have togo through somebody wearing a
collar and dressed in black orhaving a robe or going to a
confessional booth.
You don't have to do that.
You have access.
If you believe in Jesus Christand have trusted him as your
Savior, you have access.

Matt (59:04):
He is your high priest.
You have that earnest moneydown payment placed inside of
you.
Where is the dwelling of theHoly Spirit?
That's right.
It's inside of you.
Inside of you.
So, if the Holy Spirit isdwelling inside of you, if you

(59:30):
were given that Holy Spirit asyour down payment.

Brandon (59:31):
Why would you have to go to another person?
You don't, and that's whatpeople don't understand.
You've got that.

Matt (59:33):
Holy Spirit.
I mean, that's straight upbiblical.
You've got that Holy Spiritinside you.
You have access to it 24 7.
It's part of you.
That's right.
That's right.
That's why you don't have to goto someone else.

Brandon (59:49):
That's right Now.
I'm not deterring you from achurch, a Bible-believing church
.
You're together with otherbelievers, but you have access
to God personally.
Hebrews says it this way.
It says in chapter 4, verse 14,it says Seeing then that we
have a great high priest that ispassed into the heavens, jesus
the Son of God, let us hold fastour profession.
Priest that is passed into theheavens, jesus the son of God.
Let us hold fast our profession, for we have not an high priest

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which cannot be touched withthe feeling of our infirmities,
but was in all points tempted,like as we are, yet without sin.
So Jesus loved us, he died forus.
He's at the right hand of thefather.
The father's there.
And then verse number 16,.
Let us therefore come boldlyunder the throne of grace, and
that we may obtain mercy andfind grace to help in time of

(01:00:33):
need.
Come boldly to God.
If you're God's child, you arein the family of God, you have
the forgiveness of God, you haveeternal life.
You have, you are, you have apartaker of the Holy Spirit.
Sin is no longer imputed to youbecause your faith is in Christ
.
He's taking care of Spirit.
Sin is no longer imputed to youbecause your faith is in Christ
.
He's taking care of it.
You have peace with God.
You also have access to God,and then here is a big one, and

(01:00:56):
I love it.
Okay, romans 8.1, you got it.

Matt (01:00:59):
Yep.
Therefore, and I'm going toread this out of the ESV Read it
out of the King James and thenwe'll read it out of the ESV and
tell them why.
So out of the King James.
There is therefore now nocondemnation to them which are
in Christ Jesus, who walk notafter the flesh but after the

(01:01:22):
Spirit.

Brandon (01:01:23):
Okay, so let's focus on the first part.
It says there is now, therefore,now, no condemnation to those
who are in Christ Jesus.
Okay, so what does that mean?
First of all, let's take that.
Okay, there's no condemnation.
Now, paul just came out ofRomans 7.
This is a letter, and he'stalking about how that he wants
to do the right thing, but hedoesn't always do the right

(01:01:45):
thing.
He says, for the will ispresent with me, but how to
perform?
I don't know how to carry outwhat I want to do on the inside,
he said.
I find, then, a law that when Iwould do good, evil is present
with me.
He describes and this, by theway, this is the apostle Paul,
the greatest Christian probablyever to walk this earth.
Okay, and he struggled gettinghimself to do the right thing

(01:02:07):
all the time, yeah, but he givesus a wonderful promise in
Romans, chapter eight, that,despite of all of this there is
therefore, based on all of whatI just said, how much I struggle
there is no condemnation tothose who are in Christ Jesus.
Okay, now, what doescondemnation mean?
It means that you are nevergoing to be punished for your

(01:02:29):
sin, eternally in the lake offire, for the wages of sin is
death.
Romans 6.23.
Now, matt said earlier and madea great point it doesn't mean
that you can't bringconsequences on your life here
and now.
It doesn't mean you can't blowup your marriage.
It doesn't mean you can go roba bank and not get sent to
prison.
It does not mean that it meansthat you will never be eternally

(01:02:51):
judged for your sin.
There is no condemnation tothose who are in Christ Jesus.
Then the King James said forthose who walk after the Spirit,
read it.

Matt (01:03:02):
Who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.

Brandon (01:03:05):
So who walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit.
Now here's the controversialpart.
Now I want you to read it inthe ESV and let's compare and,
depending on which translationyou are, I want to teach you
something and show you somethinghere, Because I don't want you
to be afraid of your Bible.
Alright, Romans 8, 1 in theEnglish Standard Version.

Matt (01:03:26):
There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are
in Christ Jesus period.

Brandon (01:03:33):
So the period's the end of it.
There is no for those who walknot after the flesh but after
the Spirit.
Okay, so now why does the KingJames Version have for those who
walk not after the flesh butafter the Spirit?
But the modern translation ofthe ESV doesn't have it.
It just says there's nocondemnation of those who are in
Christ Jesus.
I'm gonna tell you exactly why.
All right, when the King Jameswas translated, they were scared

(01:03:57):
to put Romans 8.1, as it waswritten in the Greek manuscript.
Okay, because there was aperiod, end of sentence, full
stop at the end of there is nocondemnation to those who are in
Christ Jesus.
Why?
Because there's no condemnationto those who are in Christ
Jesus.
But they wanted to add to thosewho walked not after the flesh

(01:04:19):
but after the spirit, becausethey didn't want people to think
that they had a license to sin,and so they added to the word
of God Okay, and when you go tothe Greek manuscripts, it's not
there.
So they robbed a phrase from afew verses down and repeated it.
So then they said well, we'renot really added anymore.

Matt (01:04:40):
Just interpolated it.

Brandon (01:04:42):
There's 10 words that are interpolated and in my Bible
, if you go to that, it saysthese words were interpolated,
which means they weren't therein the original manuscript.

Matt (01:04:52):
Okay, they put a little bit of their theology into their
translation.

Brandon (01:04:56):
You mean people would twist the word of God to make it
say what they want it to say.
All right, so there's nocondemnation.
The last one that we want tolook at tonight is guess what?
That the Lord is coming back.
Did you know that?
Do you know?
That's a promise we're to clingto?
Notice 1 Thessalonians, chapter4.
And you may sit out here andhear this tonight and say, oh,

(01:05:21):
brandon, I don't believe in arapture.
The word rapture is not in theBible and all that kind of stuff
.
We're going to talk aboutrapture, we're going to talk
about end time stuff coming upin some future episodes and
we're going to get into it.
But the Bible says that theLord is coming back for his
people.
Okay, first, thessalonians,chapter number four.
Verse 14 says For if we believethat Jesus died and rose again,
even so them also which sleepin Jesus will God bring with him

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.
For this we say unto you, bythe word of the Lord, that we
which are alive and remain untothe coming of the Lord shall not
prevent them which are asleep,for the Lord himself shall
descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the
archangel and with the trump ofGod, and the dead in Christ
shall rise first, then we whichare alive and remain shall be
caught up together.

(01:06:04):
Caught up, notice that,together with them in the clouds
, to meet the Lord in the air,and so shall we ever be with the
Lord.
Wherefore, comfort one anotherwith these words.
This is one of the earliest, ifnot the earliest, books that
Paul wrote.
1 Thessalonians Talks a lotabout doctrine, of eschatology

(01:06:26):
and prophetic events, and hewanted people to know that they
were to comfort one another,that the Lord was going to come
back for them and receive them.
And I wanna tell you this righthere tonight as we close this
episode of the podcast.
I want you to know that theLord, jesus Christ, could return
at any moment for his bride,the church and those of us who

(01:06:48):
are partakers of the Holy Spirit.
We have this promise that he iscoming back.
John 14, one through three.
He said I am leaving, but I'mgoing to prepare a place for you
, and if I go to prepare a placefor you, I will come and
receive you to myself.
That word, caught up there, isliterally the essence of what we
mean by the word rapture.
Okay, and I believe it's aLatin word.

(01:07:10):
It just means catching away.
Okay, it means caught up.
There's raptures all throughoutthe Bible Elijah was raptured,
enoch was raptured.
It is the taking away, or thecatching away suddenly, without
dying, of people.
So what does that mean?
It means that I may live mywhole life and die and go to the
grave and my spirit, my soul,go to heaven.

(01:07:31):
But there is a generation comingof believers who are going to
be alive on the earth and Jesusis going to say that's it, I'm
going to wrap this up, and hecomes back for those who are
alive and we can be taken out ofhere in a moment, in the
twinkling of an eye.
The Bible says this is what wecall the blessed hope of the
believer, or the rapture, and weare to comfort one another with

(01:07:54):
these words.
So what we've tried to dotonight is we have tried to give
you the precious promises.
Okay, man, you're in the familyof God, you're a big deal to
God, you're sealed, you haveeternal life, you have
forgiveness of sins.
You have all these wonderfulpromises.
Some of you, you need to putthis episode on repeat and

(01:08:15):
constantly remind yourself ofwho you are and get in the word
Matt.
Any closing thoughts tonight?

Matt (01:08:21):
No, it's just awesome to look at all these promises, and
I mean even myself.
I have to remind myself allthese promises, and I mean even
myself.
I have to remind myself ofthese promises and just
realizing how forgiven youactually are.
That's right, and that none ofthat sin is ever imputed to your
account.
Even when I screw up and slipand fall now, it's never imputed

(01:08:46):
to my account.
It's an unbelievable promise.
Unbelievable.
And that's what a lot of usstruggle with, because we're not
God Right and we can't thinklike God Right.
And a lot of us have troubleforgiving another person who's

(01:09:06):
wronged us Right forgivinganother person who's wronged us.
So if I can't forgive thatother person, how on earth does
God, a perfect creation, theperfect God, how does he forgive
us?
It?

Brandon (01:09:20):
doesn't make sense to us because we wouldn't do it.
So it blows our mind that hewould do it, and that's called
grace, and a lot of times wedon't have grace but thank.

Matt (01:09:30):
God.

Brandon (01:09:30):
And love.
Thank God, god has grace.
Yeah, I think the writer of themost famous hymn ever summed it
up Amazing grace.
Yeah, how sweet the sound thatsaved a wretch like me.
We want to thank you forjoining us tonight for episode.
What is this?
Four, I think so, yes, four.
That's awesome.
Thank you for being heretonight.

(01:09:51):
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Let's get our views up, let'sget the word out.
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us.
And until next time, I'mBrandon Matheson and this is

(01:10:11):
Matt Hunter.
We're signing off.
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