E5 - The Holy Spirit: Understanding His Presence and Power

What happens on a podcast about the Holy Spirit when the Holy Spirit shows up?  It gets really good that's what.  What if the Holy Spirit isn't just an abstract concept, but an essential presence in your life, guiding and shaping your spiritual journey? Join us on the Bible Says Podcast as we unravel the profound role of the Holy Spirit, often overshadowed in discussions about the Trinity. We kick off by exploring His vital functions such as guiding, reminding, and sealing believers, while clearing up any confusion around terms like "Holy Ghost" and "Holy Spirit" found across different Bible translations. Get ready to deepen your understanding of why the Holy Spirit's presence is indispensable for every believer.

Ever wondered what it truly means to be spirit-filled, beyond the common association with speaking in tongues? We'll address those misconceptions head-on and highlight the Holy Spirit's roles as a friend, comforter, and teacher from the moment of salvation. We dive into the transformative power of the Holy Spirit, using biblical narratives like the events in Acts chapters 1 and 2 and Saul's conversion to Paul, to illustrate His convicting and guiding presence. By examining Ephesians 1:13-14, we emphasize the Holy Spirit's role in sealing believers, offering a metaphor of protection and promise that is both theologically rich and practically relatable.

Picture the Holy Spirit as the earnest money in a real estate deal or a seal securing high-value freight—this is how God guarantees our heavenly inheritance. In this episode, we draw powerful analogies to bring these theological concepts to life. From the fruits of the Spirit versus the works of the flesh in Galatians 5, to the critical importance of being knowledgeable in your faith for effective evangelism, our conversation is packed with insights and practical applications. We wrap up with our heartfelt prayers and aspirations for the podcast, inviting you to join us in this faith journey, engage with us, and help spread the gospel far and wide.  
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Episode Transcript

Brandon (00:09):
What does the Bible say ?
The Bible says the Bible sayspodcast.

Matt (00:21):
All right, welcome everybody to the Bible Says
Podcast, Episode 5.

Brandon (00:27):
Episode 5.
We're becoming pros at this,aren't we?
Yeah, we're getting it done.
We're getting it done.
It's a lot of fun.

Matt (00:35):
Yeah, I'm having a blast.
I don't know about you, but Ilove it.
It's awesome just sitting downand talking Bible it is really
cool.

Brandon (00:43):
That's what we want it to be.
I'm just sitting down talkingBible.
It is really cool.
That's what we want it to be.
We want it to be, you know, getdeeper than just the weeds.
We want to really dig in to theWord and look at topics,
because we believe ferventlythat you shouldn't believe
something vehemently if youcan't defend it clearly from
Scripture, and so that's kind ofour motto.

(01:04):
So we're looking at things andwe've been talking a lot about
who you are in Christ andpromises the last couple times
of God and looked at a lot ofpromises that unlock the divine
nature, and we're lookingforward to continuing on with
that tonight.

Matt (01:18):
Yeah, and so this is the Bible Says Podcast.
So we're going to dig into theBible, but before we do that,
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Brandon (01:50):
Absolutely, absolutely Well, tonight we're following up
with.
Last time we discussed thepromises that unlock the divine
nature, one of the promises thatwe, when we receive the divine
nature 2 Peter, chapter 1, werelease that divine nature

(02:13):
throughout our life and witheverything that's life and
godliness, through the great andprecious promises connecting to
those great and preciouspromises contained in the Word
of God.
So the Word of God is the keyto unlock the knowledge, to
unlock the divine nature.
Well, one of the promises thatwe shared last time that we were
together was that you know weshared a lot of them that you're

(02:36):
in the family of God, you haveeternal life, your sins are
forgiven.
One of them of the greatpromises that we're to cling to
is that we're made a partaker ofthe Holy Spirit.
Okay, so we receive the HolySpirit of God and we know from
scripture, okay, that God istriune, he's three in one.

(02:56):
Okay, now there was probablysomebody out there in internet
land that's going to point outthat the word Trinity is not in
the Bible, and I will quicklyagree with you.
The word Trinity is not in theBible, but the concept and the
idea and the teaching of theTrinity is in the Bible that God
is triune.
There's God, the Father, godthe Son, god, the Holy Spirit,
and no doubt I don't know if youthink this, matt, but I believe

(03:20):
that the most neglected memberof the Godhead is the Holy
Spirit.
Oh, I completely agree.
You know, everyone knows aboutthe Father, we know about Jesus
and we pray to the Father.
We pray to Jesus, but have youever prayed to the Holy Spirit?
I'm asking you guys out there.

Matt (03:37):
Yeah, and I think either the last episode or episode
three or episode four, somethingwe were talking about the Bible
and studying the Bible, and Imentioned that I pray to the
Holy Spirit Because we're toldthat it brings all things to
remembrance for the disciples,etc.

(03:58):
We're told that.
So I actually ask the HolySpirit to help me when I'm
studying the Bible, right?

Brandon (04:09):
Absolutely, and I think that's a good practice.
I think it's good to hey, youcan pray to the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is a lot ofthings we're going to look.
That is the purpose of thisepisode is we're going to look
at the teaching around, theteaching of the Holy Spirit, the
person of the Godhead, the HolySpirit, the he of the Holy
Spirit.
Okay, we're going to look athim and I want to know who he is

(04:34):
.
Okay, and I want to know whathe does.
The Bible says he's given to meat the moment.
I believe I'm sealed with himand we looked at some verses
last week.
We're going to look at somemore, but I want to know why was
he given to me?
What's the purpose?
What am I supposed to do withthat information?
Knowing that the Holy Spiritlives in me?
Okay.
Now here's where I want to startwith this.

(04:56):
Okay, because I have been insome really awkward
conversations in my lifesurrounding the Holy Spirit,
okay, and one of the mostawkward is you know, I have
heard this and I don't know ifyou guys out there have, and I
just want to clarify, becauseI'm reading from the King James
Version because I like it, it'smy favorite.

(05:17):
All right, I'm not a KJV-onlyguy.
I use the ESV as if I'm notusing the King James.
Usually.
If you're an NIV-er, I'm nothere to argue with you or
whatever.
Okay, matt uses primarily NIV,all right.
So listen, but I'm reading outof the King James Version and a
lot of times when you surroundin the topic of the Holy Spirit,

(05:39):
there's another term tied tothe Holy Spirit and it's the
Holy Ghost.
Okay, and then a lot of peoplewho read like a modern
translation freak out whensomebody reads the King James
and it says Holy Ghost.
So I just I want to clarifysomething.
Okay, when I'm reading the KingJames Version and, for example,

(05:59):
acts, chapter 1, verse 8, itsays but ye shall receive power.
After that, the Holy Ghost iscome upon you.
Okay, when I say Holy Ghostversus let me flip over here to
Ephesians, chapter number 1,verse 13, and it says in whom ye

(06:20):
also trusted.
After that you heard the wordof truth, the gospel of your
salvation, in whom, also afterthat, you believed you were
sealed with the Holy Spirit ofpromise, they're like oh, what
is that?
The Holy Ghost is mentioned inone place and the Holy Spirit in
another.
And, believe it or not, thereare beliefs, denominations,
traditions out there thatbelieve that there's a

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difference in the Holy Ghost andthe Holy Spirit.
Okay, most of them lean morePentecostal, okay, and they
teach that there's a differencein receiving the Holy Spirit,
being indwelt, and the way Iunderstand their doctrine is
that when you receive the HolyGhost, you're filled with the
Holy Spirit.
Okay, let me just tell yousomething.

(07:02):
That's wrong.
Okay, that's wrong, all right,you know what the difference in
the Holy Spirit?
Okay, let me just tell yousomething that's wrong.
Okay, that's wrong, all right,you know what the difference in
the Holy Spirit and the HolyGhost is?
Nothing, nothing, nothing.
You know what the word in theGreek for Holy Ghost is?
It is the word pneuma, okay.
Okay, all Scripture is given byGod.

(07:25):
All Scripture is given by uh,god is, is.
All scripture is given byinspiration of god.
Theo, god breathed out.
It's the breath.
It's theo nustos, the same word, nustos.
There is numa, which is breathor spirit, or wind.
Okay, okay, it's the same word.
In the old testament, in thehebrews rock.
Okay, god breathes into theirnostrils, breath of life.

(07:47):
Okay, in acts 1a it says holyghost.
In ephesians 1 it says holyspirit.
Okay, the same greek word isbehind both of those words.
It is the word pneuma.
So what does that mean?
Well, why did they say holyghost?
Because that's what thetranslator said.
Okay, holy Ghost.

Matt (08:04):
This was translated in 16.
Yeah, with agape.

Brandon (08:08):
So don't listen to me.
Please, please, please, please.
Don't build doctrines thatthere's a difference in Holy
Ghost and Holy Spirit when youhaven't even checked the
original language.
Don't show your ignorance inteaching that Okay, Because you
might as well just put a signthat says I am stupid, okay, I'm

(08:28):
sorry.
Is that mean All right, likecome?
On If we're going to believeand hold this stuff and fight
about it.
We better know what we'retalking about.
Don't wear a sign that saysignorant.

Matt (08:41):
Yeah, and it's not something to fight over.

Brandon (08:45):
There's nothing to fight over.
There's nothing to fight over.
There's no difference.
There's no difference, right?
So I just wanted to say thatbecause I know that man we're
going to get when we talk aboutthe Holy Spirit, being indwelled
by the Holy Spirit, beingfilled by the Holy Spirit and
stuff like that, we're going toget some crazy views.
Okay, yeah, all right, becausethere's no topic that is more
controversial doctrinally thanthe Holy Spirit.

(09:06):
Okay, when you delve into it, Ijust want to be clear let's be
faithful to the word of God.
This is the Bible says.
Podcast.
Okay, we believe.
I have an English translation.
You have an English translation.
You have the ESV right there onyour computer.
King James, right there.
I've got the King James.
Yeah, all right, so we've gotto be faithful.

Matt (09:26):
I've got an NIV in my bag.
How dare you?

Brandon (09:30):
So we've got to be faithful to it.
Okay, guess what?
The word was not breathed outin English.
God did not breathe out Englishwords.
He breathed out Greek words,hebrew words in the Old
Testament, aramaic.
That's how it was given andwe've got to faithfully
translate it.
So let's just not trip up overthe word Holy Ghost and Holy

(09:51):
Spirit.

Matt (09:53):
That one pastor told me he could correct the Greek.
Oh, did you see that video?

Brandon (09:58):
Using the King James.
Oh, my goodness, if you don'tknow what we're talking about, I
saw a Mark Driscoll video andMark's not the one that did this
and I'll name drop, I don'tcare.
Okay, mark Driscoll made fun ofthis because there's a preacher
preaching and he said that hecould correct the Greek from his
King James.
Okay, and I just sit here andI'm cringing.

(10:21):
Okay, go check out MarkDriscoll's video on that.
By the way, he comments reallyfunny stuff sometimes.
If you don't like Mark Driscoll, I like Mark Driscoll.
He's one of my favoriteCalvinists.
So he is your favoriteCalvinist.
I love Mark, I really do.
Maybe we should get him on.
Come on the podcast sometime.
I really do love him.
Yeah, well, he's a Calvinistand he's one of my favorites.

(10:42):
Yeah, so John MacArthur is too.
I love him, maybe we get him on.

Matt (10:46):
Yeah, name drop.
Now, we don't believenecessarily everything that
comes out of their mouth.

Brandon (10:53):
No, I don't believe in Calvinism, but it would be an
awesome conversation.
Yeah, it would.
I still love him and followthat.
I mean, yeah, that's great.
So, anyway, we should probablymove on yeah, we probably should
before we get in trouble.

Matt (11:06):
Actually, no, I'm going to set you up, you're going to set
me up.
Yeah, I'm going to set you upbecause you're talking about the
difference between you know theHoly Ghost, the Holy Spirit,
and you're a pastor of a churchRight, and I know that you've
been asked are you aspirit-filled preacher?

Brandon (11:23):
Are you a spirit-filled preacher?
Are you a spirit-filledpreacher?
Yeah, I get that, and all thetime.
Are you a spirit-filledpreacher?
Well, we're going to answer alot of that of what it means to
be spirit-filled, okay, butusually what that means in code,
when people ask me thatquestion is do you speak in
tongues?
That's what they want to knowand we'll address tongues.
I'm not afraid of that topic.

(11:44):
It tongues.
That's what they want to knowand we'll address tongues.
I'm not afraid of that topic.
It's talked about in the Bible,I don't deny it.
But being spirit-filled is notonly evidenced by speaking in
tongues.
Let me be clear about that.
And we can debate tongues andall that kind of stuff and I've
never spoken in tongues.
I'll just go ahead and tell youright up front.
But I do have friends that saythey do and have, and we'll look

(12:07):
at that sometime.
But the Holy Spirit, it's not atopic.
Thanks for that, matt.
It is not a topic to be scaredof, okay, no, so I just want to.
And when you hear Holy Ghost, alot of people freak out and like
, oh, that scares me.
Why does he say ghost?
I just don't want people to beafraid of the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is your friend.
He's your comforter.
He was poured into you at themoment of salvation.

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He is your companion.
He's your teacher.
We're going to look at all that, so let's dig into it.
You know, when you look at, oh,hold on, let me say this On
that topic okay, you become areceiver of the Holy Spirit the
moment you're saved.
Okay, all right, he indwellsyou.

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You are his temple.
Okay, yep, all right, you areto be not drunk with wine, where
it is excess, but be filledwith the Holy Spirit.
You're to be filled with him,drunk on him, if you will.
Okay, yeah, okay, that's acomparison.
Okay, I'm just going to saythis too, because this is
something we're going to talkabout in a future episode.
For all of those reasons, okay,you belong to Christ.

(13:18):
He indwells you.
You cannot be possessed byanother spirit, a demonic spirit
.
If you have been born again,okay, yeah, I don't care what
Greg Locke tells you.
Yeah, okay, I don't care whatIsaiah Salvador tells you.
You cannot be possessed if youare a partaker of the Holy

(13:39):
Spirit.
Okay, he cannot possess what hedoes not own.
The two cannot dwell in thesame house.
We're name dropping like crazyand I did not plan on doing this
, but it's fine, it's okay.
Okay, you cannot be possessed.
Okay, I've dealt with this anda lot of good people are
believing that you can.

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You cannot be possessed.
Now, the enemy can mess withyou.
He can oppress you.
He can be oppressed.

Matt (14:03):
You cannot be possessed.

Brandon (14:05):
Now the enemy can mess with you, he can oppress you.
He can be oppressed.
Somebody said you know, thedevil can put a tent in your
front yard, but he can't live inyour house.
Okay, and that's a great way toput it.
Okay, a friend of mine saidthat in a Bible study that we
have and I like that.
Okay, but anyway, I don't wantto get too sidetracked, but I
want you to realize that whenyou receive Christ, you receive

(14:29):
the Holy Spirit.
It's not a hugely complicatedthing, and I want us to look at
where the Holy Spirit and theteaching of the Holy Spirit
began.
Do you have John 14?
I do.
I think you read that one lasttime I did read it last time.
You grab the next one and I'llread that one this time.
Okay, and I'll get us startedon the conversation.
John 14, jesus starts thisconversation.

(14:50):
Okay, about the Holy Spirit.
So, just to set you up, this iswhat's going on, okay, in
Jesus' life.
He's about to be crucified.
He is gathered with his 12disciples.
Judas takes the sop, gets up,leaves the room.
The Bible says that Satan entersJudas.
Okay, so there was not Jesusand 12 disciples in the room.

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There was Jesus, 12 disciplesand Satan himself.
And Satan is not omnipresent.
He is one person, one entity,one created being and can be in
one location at a time.
And he was there, okay, sodon't, yeah, there needs to be
more.
When they paint the Last Supper, there needs to be another

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person in the picture because hewas there.
Okay, satan was there.
He enters Judas.
Judas leaves the room.
One of the most intimatepassages or sections of
Scripture is when Jesus.
One of the most intimatepassages or sections of
scripture is when Jesus.
Judas leaves the room and Jesusbegins to download brand new
teaching.
Okay, I believe that he teachesthe doctrine of the rapture.

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Okay, I believe he teaches thedoctor of the Holy spirit begins
to download wonderful truthsthat have never been, mysteries
that have been hidden, okay.
And he begins to teach them inJohn, chapter 14.
And one of those mysteries isthe Holy Spirit.
He says this, and I will praythe Father, verse 16, and he
shall give you another Comforter, capital C, that he may abide

(16:15):
with you forever.
Even the Spirit, capital S, oftruth, the Spirit of truth, whom
the world cannot receivebecause it seeth him not,
neither knoweth him, but ye knowhim, for he dwelleth with you
and shall be in you.
So he dwells with you now, buthe shall be in you, okay.
So Jesus is setting it up thathe's not in you now, but he will

(16:39):
be in you, okay.
And he says I will not leaveyou comfortless, I will come to
you.
So Jesus sets this up thatguess what?
I'm going away, but I'm goingto send you the comforter.
He is not in you yet, he's withyou, but he's not in you.
But he's going to be in you,okay, wait for him.

(17:00):
Okay.
So that's what he sets it up.
And who's he talking about?
He is talking about the HolySpirit of promise, the Holy
Spirit of God, the.

Matt (17:08):
Comforter, the Comforter, go ahead.
Okay, you hit on the Trinityearlier, okay.
Okay.
It may not be mentioned in theBible, but right here in these
verses, look at what he actuallysays.
Okay, he says, for he dwellethwith you.
So that's him.
Okay, he's with them.

(17:30):
Right then, right, and shall bein you in the future.
The holy spirit is coming inthe future.
I will not leave youcomfortless.
I will come to you.
Okay, who?
Who is the Holy Spirit?

Brandon (17:44):
Right, so he's tying it all together.

Matt (17:46):
He's tying it all together .
Yeah, yeah.
So the Trinity, two persons ofthe Trinity.

Brandon (17:52):
Well, and you have the Father mentioned as well Are
right there.

Matt (17:54):
And the Father is mentioned above that I will pray
the Father and he will send him.

Brandon (17:58):
So yeah, so, all throughout, there's a lot of
passages of Scripture that don'tuse the word Trinity but use
the idea of the Trinity.
Okay, and a lot of people wouldeven go back to Genesis where
it says let us make man in ourimage.
Now, I mean, there's a coupledifferent interpretations of
that, whether that's talkingabout all the sons of God and I
know we're going to get intothat later on sometime but the

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Trinity is mentioned over andover and you're exactly right to
point that out.
Do you have the Acts verse?
I do.
Acts, chapter 1, verse number 4.
This is Jesus' warning or notwarning, but his instruction for
those who have seen him afterhe's been raised from the dead,

(18:44):
and he instructs them what to do.
Okay, what does he tell them?

Matt (18:51):
So Acts 1, verse 4, and being assembled together with
them, commanded them that theyshould not depart from Jerusalem
, but wait for the promise ofthe Father, which saith he Ye
have heard of me.
Okay, so you're going to bebaptized with the Holy Ghost not

(19:13):
many days hence.

Brandon (19:22):
Don't leave Jerusalem until you receive the promise
from the Father.

Matt (19:25):
And we know from John 14, what's the promise of the Father
, it's the Holy Spirit, theComforter, that's going to come,
the Comforter that Jesus toldthem about prior to he's going
to be.

Brandon (19:31):
He's with you now, but he's going to be in you and
that's what he told them.
So it's interesting that, okay,so Jesus was crucified.
At Passover they begin the 50days of Pentecost.
They call it the counting ofthe Omer, from the Feast of
First Fruits, so they count 49days, and then plus one, so you

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have the day of Pentecost,50-ish days later, okay, for
lack of a better term, it's notexactly 50, from the death of
Jesus Christ.
Okay Then.
So you have the.
During those 50 days.
He has seen from the Bible tellsus over 500 people, about 500

(20:12):
people, saw him alive, Okay.
And he tells those people allright, all the believers, all
right, wait in Jerusalem.
And we know that 120 of themdid.
From reading Acts, chapter one,we find out that 120 of them
did.
From reading Acts, chapter one,we find out that 120 people
dwell in an upper room and theywere waiting for the Holy Spirit
to show up, okay, and they werepraying and they were waiting,

(20:35):
and they're waiting for thepromise of the comforter, okay.
And then we know that in Acts,chapter number two I didn't have
this on our list, but whathappens was that there were
people gathered for the feastfrom all over the world, and the
Bible says that in Acts,chapter two, when the day of

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Pentecost was fully come, theywere all with one accord in one
place, and suddenly there came asound from heaven as of a
rushing mighty wind and itfilled the house where they were
sitting and there appeared untothem cloven tongues or divided
tongues, like as a fire, and itsat upon each of them, okay, and
they were all filled with theHoly Ghost and began to speak
with other tongues.

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Now this is talking about the120 that were gathered in the
upper room.
So the Holy Spirit shows up andthe Holy Spirit blows in like a
rushing mighty wind, fills allof them and they begin to speak
with other tongues, as theSpirit gave them utterance, so
the Spirit is driving the wordscoming out of their mouth.
And so, if you read theentirety of the event, the Holy

(21:43):
Spirit shows up and empowersthese 120, and they begin to
speak with other languages.
The word literally here is inthe King James tongue, but it is
the word languages in the Greekand it is a known language.
It's not an angelic language oranything like that in Acts
chapter 2.
It is a language that is spokenand the crazy thing is is that

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there's people from all over theglobe, or all over the known
world at that time, who aregathered in Jerusalem for the
Feast of Pentecost, okay, andwhat they do is they hear the
gospel of Jesus Christ beingpreached in their language.
And the Bible gives us a listof those people.
It says that there were peoplefrom Parthians, medes, elamites
verse 9, dwellers of Mesopotamia, judah, cappadocia, pontus,

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asia, phrygia, pamphylia, egypt,cyrene, rome, jews, protestants
.
It gives this whole list and itsays they were blown away, that
they were hearing in their ownlanguage the story of Jesus, the
gospel of Jesus.
That's the miracle of Pentecost.
It was not an unknown heavenlylanguage on that day.
Okay, I'll grant you, there areangelic languages talked about

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in Corinthians and we'll get tothat sometime but on Acts,
chapter two, they were hearingthe gospel in their own language
.
So it would be like somebodystanding and speaking.
Okay, in, even though I don'tknow Spanish, I begin to speak
in Spanish and a Spanish personis there and they hear the

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gospel in Spanish.
Or if you don't know MandarinChinese, but you begin to speak
Mandarin Chinese and somebodyhears Mandarin Chinese.
I have not had anything exactlylike that happen in my ministry
.
But I will tell you this I havenot had anything exactly like
that happen in my ministry, butI will tell you this One time I
was preaching in a tent revivaland I was preaching and there
was a Spanish family there thatdid not speak any English and as

(23:34):
I preached in English, the HolySpirit spoke to them in Spanish
and when I gave the invitationto come forward if you wanted
prayer, those people came andsome of them received Christ,
and we had to get a Spanishspeaker to talk to them and come
to find out they had alreadyreceived Christ as I was

(23:54):
preaching to them earlier, eventhough I wasn't speaking in
Spanish.
That is one of the way that Goduses tongues, or the gift of
languages that he is using.
There's about three or fourprimary ways that he does.
But that and we don't want todebate tongues here tonight but
this is when the Holy Spiritshowed up and the supernatural
event happens.
And guess what happens Oncethis happens?

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They have everybody's attention, right.
So the Holy Spirit shows up,they hear the gospel preached
and all of these people gatheraround, thousands of them, and
Peter stands up and preaches tothem the gospel of Jesus Christ
and 3,000 of them get saved.
Okay, the mighty power of Godfell in that moment and the
Bible says that the church wentfrom 120 to at the end of Acts,

(24:37):
chapter 2, there's 3,120.
3,000 were baptized in one dayand added to the church.
So this is the story of how theHoly Spirit came and Jesus told
us in John 14, he's coming,okay.
So let's look at some otherthings that the Holy Spirit does
for us.
We've seen that.
He's been told to us by Jesus.
He shows up in Acts.

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He's told about again in Acts,chapter one and wait for him.
Acts chapter two.
He shows up and then I want youto see and refresh our memory,
matt, in Ephesians.
You got Ephesians 1?
Is that where you're at?
Ephesians 1.13 teaches us andthis is a refresher of something
that we talked about last timethat the Holy Spirit brings and

(25:19):
does to us.
What does he do to us?
Ephesians 1.13 and 14.

Matt (25:21):
Ephesians 1, 13, in whom you also trusted, after you had
heard the word of truth, thegospel of your salvation, in
whom, also, after you believed,you were sealed with that Holy
Spirit of promise.
Okay.

Brandon (25:36):
So after that you believed you were sealed with
that Holy Spirit of promise.
If you listen to episode numberfour, we talked about that
sealing Okay yeah, you listenedto episode number four, we
talked about that ceiling Okayyeah.
And when I was in Bible collegeI used to work on the docks and
I used to load over-the-roadfreight trucks and we would load
.
You know, I drove a forkliftand we would load a lot of

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freight into a vehicle and wewould load them as much weight
as we could get on there.
We got paid on how much weightwe moved.
We'd load them high and tight,we'd load them up.
We would load that truck whenit was done, when it had the
desired amount of weight, wasn'toverloaded, we'd close the door
and we'd seal it and somebodywould put like a cable seal on

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that truck and if you've everrented a U-Haul or something
like that, it has those kind ofdoors that you lock, you pull it
down, you pull the handle overand it locks into place and it
has a place for you to run thatseal through.
And then when the load gets tothe other end, you know when
that seal's in place that ithadn't been tampered with.

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Nobody's stolen anything out ofit.
Theft was a big deal on thosedocks.
You had to watch that freight.
There was cameras everywhereand all that kind of stuff.
There are cameras everywhereand you had to watch it and you
didn't want anybody to breakinto that load and steal.
We had high-priced items.
We had a lot of high-dollarelectronics and things like that
.
Hundreds of thousands ofdollars of maybe millions of

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dollars worth of freight on that.
You don't want anybody messingwith it, so you sealed it.
Well, the Holy Spirit is ourseal.
Okay, we mentioned the wax andthe ring sealing the letter.
That's what he does.
He seals us, but he's also.
Doesn't it go on in verse 14?

Matt (27:17):
It does?
What does it say which is theearnest of our inheritance?
Until the redemption of thepurchased possession, unto the
praise of his glory.

Brandon (27:28):
Okay, so he's the earnest of our inheritance until
the redemption of the purchasedpossession.
So we talked about last weekthat he is our down payment on
heaven.
We receive him now as a downpayment on what's to come.
Okay, there's another thoughtof that, and you brought it up
last week.
Have you ever bought property?
Okay, have you ever enteredinto a contract, maybe through a

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realtor, to buy a house or apiece of land or something like
that?
The standard thing you do isyou put earnest money down okay,
$1,000, $5,000, whatever thepurchase or whatever they
require.
Now if you back out and renegeon that deal and you say, well,
I don't want it anymore, youdon't get your earnest money
back once you've put it up.
Okay, if you don't meet theparameters of that contract,

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once you've signed that checkfor that earnest money, you
forfeit your earnest money.
The Holy Spirit is God'searnest money, guaranteeing what
is to come.
He is our seal.
He is our seal, he is ourearnest money.
That's a fascinating thoughtright there.

Matt (28:29):
Think about how valuable you are to God Absolutely, that
earnest money, that Holy Spiritgiving of himself, of the Holy
Spirit, not just Christ.
So he gave his son as asacrifice, right, he gave that

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Holy Spirit.
How valuable you have to be Forhim to do that, for him to do
that, for him to do that.
I know I couldn't do that Right, not one of my kids.

Brandon (29:03):
Right.
He's given his word.
He's given his son.
He's given his son.

Matt (29:07):
Given the Holy Spirit to guarantee, to seal, to place as
a down payment.
That's right.

Brandon (29:18):
Here's another one Ephesians, chapter four, verse
30.
Same book, different thought onthe Holy Spirit and grieve, not
the Holy Spirit of God, wherebyye are sealed unto the day of
redemption.
So you are sealed, okay, by theHoly Spirit until the day of
redemption.
And I know, on this sealing,there's a couple other verses in

(29:42):
the New Testament thathighlight that.
I think there's one in 2Corinthians yeah, got it,
chapter one that talks aboutbeing sealed, verse 22, 2
Corinthians chapter one, verse22.

Matt (29:52):
So who hath also sealed us and given the earnest of the
Spirit?

Brandon (29:58):
in our hearts.
So he sealed us and give us theearnest.
There's that down paymentlanguage again.
Okay, that earnest.
I'm serious, I mean business.
So I give you the Holy Spiritand he seals us and it's the
earnest of.

Matt (30:11):
It's almost like we've got a contract for salvation.

Brandon (30:15):
It's almost like God says take me at my word, I can't
lie Right, for the wages of sinis death, but the gift of God
is eternal life.
When you receive his gift, okay, but what is it?
Okay, the law?
Okay.
In the Old Testament was theOld Covenant.
Jesus said drink this.

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Okay, because this is my body,this is the New Testament, or
the new covenant in my blood.
What is it?
It literally is a promise made.

Matt (30:52):
It's a contract, a promise , a covenant, a covenant.
And think about the in the OldTestament when they would make a
covenant.
They sealed it.
Sealed it with what?
With a sacrifice, with blood.
With blood, I mean literally.
There are places in the Bible Ican't look them up right this

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minute but where it actuallytells I think it was Moses, no,
abraham walked between thepieces of the sacrifice.
He killed them, divided them,divided the pieces and walked
between the pieces of thesacrifice.

Brandon (31:35):
For the covenant.
It's a covenant between God andAbraham.
In that instance, in thatinstance, in salvation, it's God
and you.
Now let me say this and I'm notgoing to be crass or rude okay,
when a man and woman cometogether, okay, they're a
marriage covenant, okay.

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Okay, they're a marriagecovenant.
Okay, god's original originalintent is that a man and a woman
come together in a sexual unionOkay, and there is a, there is
a blood covenant.
Okay, without getting graphic,okay, of the virgin bride and
the husband coming together andthere is blood exchanged.

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Okay, for lack of a better term, and without getting too
graphic, this is how God drew itup.
And so when people flippantlysay, oh well, I sinned and I
lost my salvation, I'm like youdon't understand.
When you entered into thatbelief in Christ and you trusted
him with your faith that everyman is given a measure of faith

(32:37):
and you put it in Jesus Christ,okay, you meant business.
I promise you he meant business.
Yeah, and you are so secure andso safe in your salvation.
He cannot break it.
He gave the Holy Spirit, okay,he gave you a promise, a new
covenant in his blood.
Okay, he doesn't take thatlightly.
He doesn't take that lightly.

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He doesn't take it lightly.
And, in fact, 1 Corinthians,chapter 6, I've got the next
verse here.
I want to show you this, andthis is a famous verse, but it
says this what I love, thatPaul's like, what, like?
You don't know this, what?
What?
Know ye not that your body isthe temple of the Holy Ghost?

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Don't let the word Holy Ghostscare you.
There.
It's the Holy Pneuma, the HolySpirit which is in you, which ye
have of God, and ye are notyour own, for ye are bought with
a price.
Therefore, glorify God in yourbody and in your spirit, which
are gods.

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Okay, notice that your spiritis God's and your body is God's.
Glorify God in your spirit andin your body, which are God's.
Okay, you have the temple, youhave received the Holy Spirit
and your body is now the housingor the temple or the tabernacle

(34:01):
of the Holy Spirit of God.
Why should you live a godlylife with your body?
Because your body is the templeof the Holy Spirit.
Okay, why can't the enemyinhabit your body?
Because your body is the templeof the Holy Spirit.
Okay, listen to me.
God is not going to put up withanybody taking over his temple.

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That's why you should glorifyGod in your body.
Do you know that?
38 years, okay, or 36 to 38years, depending on how you date
the crucifixion of Jesus thetemple in Jerusalem was
destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD.
Titus Vespasian led armies inand the temple, whether

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accidentally or purposely, gotcaught on fire.
The gold of the temple melteddown this was the second temple,
not Solomon's and the gold randown in the rocks.
They flipped over every rockand Jesus' prophetic words of
Matthew 24 were fulfilled.
Not one stone will be left onanother.
Okay, from then, from AD 70until right now, there's not

(35:09):
been a temple.
Now, I know that we're talkingabout the Third Temple, right
With end times prophecy and thered heifers and all that is
going on around.
Okay, but there's not a templeright now.
It has been destroyed.
It has been destroyed fornearly the entirety listen of
the church age, for nearly theentirety of the church age, but

(35:32):
it really hasn't, because therehas been a temple and it's not
made with hands, but it's you.
You during the church age, okay, are the temple of the Holy
Spirit of God.
Do you understand something?
Listen to me and I say this topeople all the time in preaching
and teaching the word.

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David was never continuallyindwelt by the Holy Spirit, like
you are, because he was notpart of the church age, the
receiver of the Holy Spirit.
After the resurrection of Jesus, after the comforter was come,
after the day of Pentecost, henever knew what it was like.
He knew what it was like toexperience the Holy Spirit and

(36:14):
the Holy Spirit to be with him,but he didn't know what it was
like to have the Holy Spiritwith him all the time, indwelt
by the Holy Spirit and the HolySpirit to be with him, but he
didn't know what it was like tohave the Holy Spirit with him
all the time.
Yeah, indwelt by the HolySpirit.
Moses never knew what that waslike.
Noah never knew what that waslike.
Father Abraham never knew whatthat was like.
Daniel never knew what that waslike.
We can go on.
Yeah, okay, jephthah, samson,all the judges, samuel, go

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through.
Okay, solomon, they never knewwhat it was like to have the
Holy Spirit all the time withthem.
But the church and you and I do, because when we receive Jesus,
we're made, we're sealed by theHoly Spirit.
Okay, we have the comforter ofthe Holy Spirit, john 14.
Okay, and then we are thetemple of the Holy.

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Spirit.
We're not our own.
We're bought with a price.
It's fascinating.
And what was that price?
Yeah, it was a high price theblood of Jesus.
Okay.
So we need to realize it, man,we okay.
Last week, in the last episode,we were talking about how
blessed we are because we're inthe family of God.

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Our sins are forgiven, we haveeternal life, and it's just like
blessing after blessing,promise after promise.
Let me tell you something Oneof those promises last week was
the Holy Spirit.
Then you branch off into thisepisode and the Holy Spirit
brings so much blessing to you.
Your body is the temple okay,you're sealed.
He's the down payment okay.

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We're going to see even moreand more of the blessings that
he brings to our life.
But the Holy Spirit of God isunbelievable, and it's
unbelievable that we, many of us, don't have a conversation or a
relationship very much with theHoly Spirit.
We don't think about him verymuch.
I want you to start thinkingabout him, because he is given

(38:06):
to you for so many reasons.

Matt (38:08):
He's that reminder that you're saved, that you're his
and you know you're bought witha price.

Brandon (38:20):
You can't get away from that, can you's?

Matt (38:21):
no, that's uh ringing in your head, it's ringing in my
head because you're bought withthe price.
There's been a down paymentpaid.
Jesus said or jesus, or paul, Ithink, actually says that he's
not going to lose any of hisright.
Jesus will not lose.
Actually, actually, I thinkit's Jesus.
You're in his hands and you'rein the Father's hands.

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All that you gave me.
I've not lost one.
I've not lost one.
He's not going to lose anyone.
That's been saved becausethey've been bought with that
price.
He's not a wasteful God wastinghis money.

Brandon (39:00):
Well, and he's bought and he's going to keep what he
bought.

Matt (39:03):
You're bought and paid for it, you're his and he can do
with you what he wants.

Brandon (39:08):
That's right.
That's right.
Not only are we bought and paidfor and bought with a price,
but I love the fact and you hadmentioned something last week,
matt, when we were tellingpeople, or last week or a couple
weeks ago, when we were tellingpeople that if you're
struggling reading your Bible,pray was one of the things that

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go to the Holy Spirit, who'sthere with you and ask Him to
teach you His Word.
Another aspect of what the HolySpirit brings to you is this,
and I want to point this outBack in John, chapter 14, when
Jesus is teaching about the HolySpirit, he says this in verse
26, but the comforter, which isthe Holy Ghost, which the Father
will send in my name, he shallteach you all things.

(39:54):
Okay, so the Holy Spirit is andI love this because it just
gets, as my old preacher used tosay, it just gets gooder and
gooder.
Right, it just gets better andbetter.
The Holy Spirit's not only ourcomforter, he's not only sealing
us, he's not only the downpayment guaranteeing eternal
life that is to come.
Okay, that we have now, butwe'll enjoy later.

(40:16):
Okay with God, living with Godthat life.
He's not only indwelling us.
Our bodies are not only histemple, okay, but here it says
but the Comforter, which is theHoly Ghost, whom the Father will
send you in my name, he shallteach you all things.
He is our teacher.
Okay, he is our teacher.

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So, when you read the Bible, goto the Holy Spirit and say Holy
Spirit, teach me your word as Iread it.
This is your word and I'm yours, my body's yours, my eyes are
yours, my body's your temple.
Teach me these unsearchablethings that you want me to know
about God.

Matt (40:55):
Yeah, I think in 14, there it says he brings into
remembrance Absolutely, hereminds you that you're his.
He's not only your teacher,he's your reminder, yeah, of
what you've already learned, andI've heard you say, preaching,
that one evidence that you'resaved is when you're doing

(41:18):
something wrong.
Right, that holy spirit ispricking your heart while you're
doing it.
Well, I think you readreminding you.

Brandon (41:25):
You read the verse.
I don't remember if it was lastweek.
It sometimes these things runtogether, but it says you were
reading and it says that, um,that his spirit bears witness
with our spirit that we are thechildren of God.
Okay, it was the verse aboutthe family.
Okay, his Spirit bears witness,with my spirit, that we are the

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sons of God.
Okay, so the Holy Spirit bearswitness, with my spirit, that we
are the sons of God.
Okay, so the Holy Spiritconfirms that in us.
Okay, and I do believe thatcompletely.
The Holy Spirit of God has thepower to teach you new things.
He can teach you the Word ofGod.
That's why you always need topray over Scripture as you read

(42:07):
it and before you read it and asyou read it.
But he also can remind you ofwhat you've already known.
When you're out of line, theHoly Spirit will own.
When you're out of line, theHoly Spirit will.
The King James word is convinceyou or convict you is what a
lot of the old timers used tosay.
Right, holy Spirit will convictyou.
It means that he will poke andprod your heart.

(42:27):
If you go read the story of theday of Pentecost, when Peter
got up to preach.
The Bible says he preached andthe Bible says they were pricked
in their hearts.
They were pricked in theirheart by the Holy Spirit, so the
Holy Spirit can poke, okay.
Another example that just cometo mind when Saul, the Apostle
Paul, before he becomes known byhis name Paul, he's known as

(42:53):
his Hebrew name, saul.
And what happens he said asJesus encountered him on the
road to Damascus.
He said Paul, is it hard foryou to kick against the pricks?
Okay, and that verse ismisunderstood by many.
But what is he saying?
Basically?
I believe Paul was underconviction and the pricking and
prodding of the Holy Spirit wasdrawing him to salvation.

(43:15):
Okay, and he said is it hardfor you to push back and kick
against the pricks?
Okay, you are under conviction,all right, I think he had
already been being drawn toChrist, and that's what I want
you to understand.
The Holy Spirit is there toteach you things that you don't
know, but he's also there toremind you of what you do know

(43:37):
that you don't know, but he'salso there to remind you of what
you do know, okay.
Yeah, example of this when I'mpreaching and teaching or doing
a podcast, I'm sitting heretalking about okay, and I've got
notes that I try to keep theconversation moving along, and
Matt does too.
But you know what, sometimesand you know this is a teacher
the Holy Spirit will just bringsomething to your remembrance
and you'll go off in right field, left field, and you'll go

(43:58):
chase you know we call itchasing rabbits right.
Chasing kind of down a rabbittrail.
But that can be the hand of theHoly Spirit and you should
always follow that as he leads.
And that's the discerningaspect, because he brings to
your mind things, to yourremembrance.

Matt (44:17):
I love that Paul thing.
I don't know that I've everheard that or thought of it in
that context.

Brandon (44:23):
What the?

Matt (44:23):
pricking the pricks yeah, that he was.
He's been persecuting thechurch.
He was on his way to Damascusto persecute the church.
Yeah, youth, the church, yeah,and kicking against the pricks,
literally kicking.

(44:44):
God's been pricking your heartand he's been fighting him and
you've been fighting them andbreathing out murderous.
That'd be a good messagewouldn't it?
Oh it would.

Brandon (44:54):
That'd be a good message.
Uh, kicking against the pricks,Okay.
Well, think about this though.
Okay, Just as you brought thatup, Just think about this, and I
love talking about the Bibleand just thinking about it, and
this is off the cuff for Mattand I.
I mean everything that we dobringing you know the conversion
of Saul, Okay, and a lot ofpeople say, well, he was Saul

(45:21):
and his name was changed to Paul.
I believe that his Roman namewas Paul and his Jewish name was
Saul.
Okay, and you know, I thinkthat's bared out by evidence,
but anyway, he was persecutingthe church.
He got letters to you know,have the authority to arrest
people and kill people.

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He was there holding the coatsof those that stoned Stephen.
You know, the deacon in thechurch who had stood for Christ,
who had spoke for Christ, andthey gnashed on him.
I think it says, with theirteeth is what the King James
said.
Okay, they got so mad atStephen.
I want you to imagine what itwould have been like for unsaved

(46:02):
Saul to stand there and to seesuch a godly man as Stephen in
his final moments and interactwith.
Okay, they attack him, theygnash on him, they beat him,
they stone him and he says,Father, forgive them, and he
prays for them.
Such a Christ-like moment forStephen.

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And then, as he's dying, helooks up to heaven and sees the
heavens open and Jesus standingat the right hand of the Father.
And it's the only time, see, weknow Jesus is sitting at the
right hand of the Father.
And it's the only time, See, weknow Jesus is sitting at the
right hand of the Father.
But in that moment he'sstanding at the right hand of
the Father.
Okay, and seeing that inStephen's final moment, that

(46:48):
would weigh heavy on you ifyou're already under conviction
of the Holy Spirit.
I mean, think of the massiveconviction, the kicking against
the pricks of prodding in thepricks of the Holy Spirit.
Yeah, I mean, think of themassive conviction, the kicking
against the pricks of proddingin the pricks of the Holy Spirit
.

Matt (47:01):
That's a humbling thought and knowing the way that Paul
teaches throughout the Bible.
He sat at the feet of Gamalieland he knew the scriptures
Backwards and forwards.
He was not a dummy, no, he wasa well-educated man, he knew

(47:23):
these scriptures and he's seeingthese persecuting these
Christians, seeing theseChristians and he's like, hmm,
you know those pricks, thosethings prick in his heart.
He's hearing them preach orlistening to them give evidence
of Jesus Right.
And he knows that, hey, here'sthat prophecy, here's this

(47:47):
prophecy, here's these pieces.
And you know that had to havebeen weighing on him because he
knows the scriptures Better thanjust about anybody else.

Brandon (48:01):
That brings up an interesting.
We're getting off cuff here.

Matt (48:03):
Yeah, we are.
No, I like it.

Brandon (48:04):
I like it, we're going to go with it.
We're going to go with itbecause we pray over this and we
want God to guide it.
Okay, this is not aboutcovering a certain amount of
points.
It's about getting under theword, getting people excited to
talk about the Bible.
You bring up Paul and howeducated he was.
And, sitting at the feet ofGamaliel, he was a Pharisee's
Pharisee.
I mean, he knew the law, heknew the Old Testament.
Guess what?

(48:27):
Though?
He was not and is not known asthe apostle to the Jews.
Think about that.
He's known as the apostle tothe Gentiles.
He wrote the book of Romans,okay, the book on salvation.
I love Paul, but if you drew itup on paper, he was destined,

(48:52):
after coming to faith in Christ,to be the disciple to the Jews,
because he could dismantletheir arguments, because he knew
the Tanakh and the first 39books of our Bible, their Bible,
their law.
He knew it backwards andforwards, okay, but God took him
in, no matter his pedigree, andturned him into the disciple or

(49:16):
the apostle of the Gentiles.
And he said I magnify mine,office.
Think about that.
He was sent, okay, and who didGod primarily send?
He sent a lot of them.
But who did he primarily sendto the Jews?
Peter, who was not very welleducated, he was a fisherman, he
worked for a living.

(49:37):
Okay, paul did too as a tentmaker, but he was very well
educated.
He was a fisherman, he workedfor a living.
Okay, paul did too as a tentmaker, but he was very well
educated.
But he sent Peter, who had hisown struggles with, like, the
simplicity of salvation, and hestruggled from his Jude, you
know, judaism, jewish background, with that and he is the one
that is primarily used to reachthe Jews.

(49:58):
And and Paul, who coulddismantle the rabbis and the
Pharisees he uses them to goafter the Gentiles.

Matt (50:05):
That always fascinated me and it's interesting to watch
the way that Paul does it.
When he goes from town to town,when he's on his missionary
journeys, he goes in and he goesto the synagogue Right First.
He goes straight for thejugular.
He goes straight for thejugular.

(50:25):
He goes to the Jews in thesynagogue first, dismantles
their arguments.
And the synagogues outside ofJerusalem are smaller, right,
less fewer Jews outside of thepopulation center, but there are
Jews scattered smaller, right,less fewer Jews outside of the
population center, but there areJews scattered across all of
these, the list of 70 nations,et cetera.
But he goes to those Jews first.

(50:48):
He makes some converts becausethey know the scriptures, makes
some converts and then takesthose converts and uses those
converts to spread the churchSpread out To the Jew first and
also to the Gentiles, exactly.
To the Jew first and then to theGentiles.
But he uses the Jews in thosesynagogues, in the local

(51:11):
synagogues of all these citiesthat he goes to, to recruit the
Gentiles and to bring the.

Brandon (51:18):
Gentiles into the church.
That's interesting, that's aninteresting thought.
I love Paul, but I love too, hedid not.
You know, he, a lot of peoplesay, well, christians shouldn't,
you know, debate or get intoarguments or things like that.
Oh, no man, if you watch Paul,my goodness, he would go into
those synagogues and he wouldjust, I mean he was not afraid

(51:42):
to engage, I mean he.
I mean it was hammered down, itwas go time and he would engage
with the, whether it was theJews or the Gentiles, okay, or,
and you know, that would be aninteresting thing to talk about
sometimes, just like thestrategies of evangelism of the

(52:02):
early church and the earlydisciples, the Pauls, the Peters
, the Jameses, you know, thoseguys that were spreading the
gospel, the disciples wholargely gave their life
everybody except John, okay forthe gospel and were martyred.
I mean they engaged.
But here's the deal, they knewwhat they believed and why they

(52:25):
believed it.
Okay, and I'm going to saysomething slightly critical to
us in Christendom right, okay,All right, a lot, and dare I say
this okay, maybe me, maybe youand maybe a say this okay, maybe
me, maybe you and maybe a lotof you watching out there.
Okay, a lot of times God can'tuse you in a witnessing

(52:47):
opportunity and to engagesomebody.
Because here's the tough partto swallow because maybe we
haven't done our homework enoughand aren't versed enough to be
able to engage with people whoare going to push back.
Maybe we're not ready to answertheir questions, maybe we don't

(53:08):
have enough spiritual depth inus and knowledge in the Word to
be able to fire back and Pauland Peter and those guys.
They would put us to shame withtheir Bible knowledge, with
their walk with God, theirprayer, their power.
Yeah, okay, let this be apricking moment for us to say we

(53:29):
better know what we're talkingabout.
And let me expand on that justa little further no-transcript

(54:07):
to preach.
You get baptismal regeneration,baptism attached to salvation.
I'll dismantle that argument inabout two seconds.
Okay, all right, because youdon't know what you're talking
about.
And if you're going to claimthe name of Christ, you better
stop with that kind of crap andyou better learn what.
Get some depth about you.
Okay, because you're not goingto convince somebody who's

(54:28):
skeptical.
You're not going to convincesomebody who doesn't even know
that there is a God.
You better know what you'retalking about.

Matt (54:35):
Yeah, and that's part of the problem with the church.
The majority of Christians thatare sitting in a church pew
every Sunday, week in, week out,don't know how to share the
gospel.

Brandon (54:53):
They don't know how to share the gospel.

Matt (54:55):
They barely know the gospel themselves themselves and
that's why this podcast isbeing done to get depth to depth
and to teach the body of christ, the church absolutely the
people what the bible says,because if you don't know what

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it says, you can't tell someonehow to be saved.

Brandon (55:24):
And why don't we know it?
We are lazy, we're infatuatedwith other things.
We don't spend the time in theword that we should.
No wonder we don't have thedivine power flowing through us.
We talked about it last time.
Okay, we've got to get depthabout us.
We've got to get depth about us.
We've got to get in the word.
We got to know what we'retalking about.

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Don't tell somebody you shouldbelieve this when you can't
convince them and tell them theBible.
I think it's Paul that says Iconvince people.
Okay, I convince people.
He went and he engaged them, hedebated them when he went into,
you know, in the book of Acts.
I mean, the disciples would gointo places that were steeped in

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paganism and they but do youknow what they did?
They would go in there.
I think of what is it where itsays you got the?
You know, the statue to theunknown God and all that, and
Mars Hill.
They engage in that and they goin with such a burden for these
people.
But they know what they'retalking about.
They present the living God andthey know enough about their

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religion to dismantle what theybelieve and confront it.
And I'm not saying confront itin an angry way, but confront it
in a knowledgeable way.
It is time that we becomeapologists, okay, and know what
we're talking about when itcomes to the Word of God.
We've got to.
We've got to.
I know we're getting a littleoff track, but the Holy Spirit's

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our teacher, he's our reminder.

Matt (56:51):
Okay, and that was, you know it's.
You've got to know the Bibleand you've got to dismantle the
arguments and then we let youknow, like it says, with the
conversion of Paul, we've got tolet the Holy Spirit prick the
heart.
That's right.
And or with Peter, you know, inActs 2.

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Right, it pricked their heart,the Holy Spirit did the work.

Brandon (57:20):
But our job is to engage, know what we're talking
about, educate and then givethem see.
When we give them our thoughts,matt, we can't convince them.
We argue with them, we just goin circles.
But when you give them the trueword of God, the word of God is
alive.
It's sharp, it's powerful, it'ssharper than any two-edged
sword Pierces even to thedividing asunder of soul and

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spirit.
This is the word.
When you give the word to them,it does the work.
It does the work and the worddoes not return void.
But did you know?
In Ephesians, chapter five?

Matt (57:55):
I don't know if you- have that one, I've got that one.

Brandon (57:57):
So Ephesians, chapter 5 , tells us not only do we have
the Holy Spirit and indwelt bythe Holy Spirit from the moment
we're saved, but it gives us afurther command, and I want you
to see this Romans 5, 18.

Matt (58:10):
And be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but be
filled with the Spirit.

Brandon (58:16):
Okay, so be not drunk with wine wherein the Spirit.
Okay, so be not drunk with winewhere it is excess.
Okay, so you're not to takealcohol or wine to an excessive
state.
What does that mean?
Okay, you can be impaired byalcohol, you can be drunk by
alcohol, which means you shouldnot be driving a car, you can't
walk a straight line, you arecontrolled and you've allowed

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your bodily functions to becontrolled by a substance.
Okay, so the Bible says youshould not do that.
Be not drunk with wine where itis excess, but be filled with
the Spirit.
Okay, I always tell folks thisyou're not to be drunk with wine
, you are to be drunk with theSpirit.
That is literally what he'ssaying.

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He's saying don't be impaired,don't yield your body to wine in
excess, but take the HolySpirit in excess, be filled and
intoxicated with him.
That is literally what Paul istelling the church at Ephesus we

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are to be filled with, and sothis brings up another topic.
Okay, and I think that we needto use this as a teaching moment
.
So from the moment that youbecome a believer, you are
indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
Okay, Jesus said it.

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From Acts, chapter two from theday of Pentecost on.
You receive the Holy Spirit atthe moment of salvation, the
moment of justification, momentof belief in Christ, but that
does not mean that you areautomatically all the time
filled with the Spirit.
So I want everybody to listento me there's a difference in
being indwelt or the Holy Spiritlives in you.
There's a difference in thatand you being surrendered to the
Holy Spirit and being filledwith the Holy Spirit.

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So Matt teased me at thebeginning and said are you a
spirit-filled pastor?
Right, Okay, because the Biblesays that we should be
spirit-filled.
I hope I'm a spirit-filledpastor.
Okay, I want to be aspirit-filled pastor, okay.
But the truth of the matter is,every believer is indwelt by
the Spirit, but not everybody isfilled with the Spirit.
Ephesians 5 is a command.

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By the way, Be not drunk withwine we're in his success but be
filled with the Spirit.
It is not a suggestion, it isnot.
Oh shucks, guys, I wish youguys would do this.
It is do it okay and be filledwith the Spirit.
Now, we're not going to getinto necessarily all the ways
that, how you do that, okay, butif you are full of the Spirit,

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it means that you are not fullof the flesh, yeah, that you are
not full of the flesh, Okay.
Okay, the Bible talks aboutthat internal struggle between
the spirit and the body.
The body lusts after the spirit, spirit lusts after the flesh.
Okay, Galatians 5 goes into thefruit of the flesh and the
fruit of the spirit, okay, sothere is this back and forth,

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and so you have to emptyyourself of you and you have to
replace yourself with the spirit.
Okay, so let's just look realquick as we wrap up here in
Galatians, chapter number five.
Galatians, chapter five, verse22.
A lot of people know thatthere's the fruit of the spirit

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and in verse 22, it talks aboutthe fruit of the Spirit.
But the fruit of the Spirit islove, joy, peace, long-suffering
, gentleness, goodness, faith,meekness, temperance.
Against such there is no law.
So there's nine fruits of theSpirit talked about there,
Everything from love and joy andpeace to patience or
long-suffering, gentleness,goodness, faith, meekness,

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temperance or self-control.
Against such there is no law.
Okay, and they that are Christhave crucified the flesh with
the affections and lust, okay,so we know about the fruit of
the Spirit.
But if you back up to verse 17,we don't always talk about the
fruit of the flesh, okay.
Verse 17 says for the fleshlusteth against the Spirit, okay
, and the Spirit against theflesh, all right.

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So the flesh wants what thespirit has.
Spirit wants what the flesh hasall right.
And these are contrary the oneto the other, so that you cannot
do the things that you would orthe things that you want to do.
That's the way of saying thatthe things that you would, okay.
So I always tell people youknow, you can have the best of
intentions, but carrying outthose intentions is the hard

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part.
Right, you can decide to be agood Christian.
I'm going to read my Bible, I'mgoing to pray.
I'm going to be a good father,I'm going to be a good mother.
I'm going to not do that sinanymore.
You got the best of intentions,but the problem is how to carry
it out.
And the problem is your fleshis unsaved and it lusts after
the spirit.
And the spirit, okay, is theeternal part of you that is born

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again and it wants you, itwants your body to obey, it
wants your mind to obey, Okay.
And so it lusts after thethings of the flesh, Okay, and
these are contrary to one to theother.
So you cannot do the thingsthat you would Notice this,
verse 18, but if you be led ofthe Spirit, you're not under the

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law.
Now, the works of the flesh aremanifest.
Which are these?
Now?
I've counted these before.
I think there's 18 things, ifI'm not mistaken, that are
mentioned here.
These are, we think, of thefruit of the Spirit.
These are the fruit of theflesh.
Now, the works of the flesh aremanifest.
Which are these?
Adultery, fornication,uncleanness, lasciviousness,
idolatry, witchcraft, hatred,variance, emulations, wrath,
strife, seditions, heresies,envying, murderers, drunkenness,

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revelings and such like, Of thewhich I tell you before, as I
have told Now.
Then it goes into the fruit ofthe Spirit and it says this and
they that are Christ havecrucified the flesh with the
affections and lust, All right.
So a lot of people get trippedup when it says the list of the

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bad stuff and it says if you dothese things, you won't inherit
the kingdom of heaven.
So if you do any of thosethings, you won't go to heaven.
It's not what it's saying.
It's saying that in verse 24,if you belong to Christ, you
have crucified the flesh and allof those things.
Those sins are done andcrucified.
Okay, they're gone.

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Your old self is gone.
But if you let your flesh rule.
The fruits of the flesh aregoing to come out.
The fruit of your life is goingto be uncleanness,
lasciviousness, even fornication, hatred, variance, All these
things are possible in your life.
But you need to let the fruitof the Spirit come out.

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Now some of you may be sittingout there and say well, Brandon,
that's not exactly what it says.
It is what it says because lookat verse 25.
It says this if we live in theSpirit, let us also walk in the
Spirit.
So that's what I want everybodyout there to understand as we
close tonight.
You, from the moment you'resaved, you're indwelt by the

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Holy Spirit and you're alive inthe Spirit, but that does not
mean that you are walking in theSpirit and are full of the
Spirit.
You can be alive in the Spiritand not walking in the Spirit.
You can be alive in the Spiritand not full of the Holy Spirit.
And what I want you to do is Iwant you to strive, and we'll

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talk about this.
We'll get into this.
There's so much in this book toget into.
But you and I need to yieldourselves, empty ourselves of
ourselves and fill ourselveswith the things of God and we
yield more and more to Him, andthat's the thing, the thing that
you fill yourself with is thething that spills out and spills

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over.

Matt (01:06:04):
That's the fruit.
Isn't that what Jesus?

Brandon (01:06:06):
said yeah, for out of the abundance of the heart, the
mouth speaketh.
Yeah, so when your heart fillsup with what you are filling
yourself up with, it will sloshout.
Yeah, so, whatever you sloshout.

Matt (01:06:19):
Yeah, so whatever, you're full of that's what's coming out
.

Brandon (01:06:23):
I know a lot of people that are full of something.
Yeah Right, but hey, you knowwhat?
The wonder and what we'vetalked about tonight is the
wonder of the Holy Spirit.
Yeah, we have a person, theperson of the Godhead, with us
all the time.
The presence of God, the samespirit that raised up Jesus from
the dead, lives in you, matt,lives in me and lives in

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everybody out there that hasbelieved in Christ.
You know what it's a powerfulthing and we just need to revel
in that, grab a hold of that andlove every bit of that.
It's awesome, the Holy Spirit.
As I remember, when I was alittle boy, I heard my preacher.

(01:07:05):
He was talking about the firsttime that he realized that the
Holy Spirit was a real personand he had never talked to him
and he was a preacher.
He was a pastor and he was apreacher.
He was a pastor, he wasrecording a radio broadcast and
he was preaching on the HolySpirit to an empty church.
Because he was recording abroadcast and he said it hit him

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like a ton of bricks that hehad been preaching and believed
in the Holy Spirit all his lifebut he had never spoken a word
to him and he said never again.
From that day on, he said mylife changed because I began to
talk and address to the HolySpirit and ask him what to do.
He said I walked out to my carand I could take two or three

(01:07:46):
different routes to my house andhe said Holy Spirit, which way
do you want me to go?
And he said I began to ask hisopinion and listen for his
confirmations and listen to it,and his life was revolutionized
because of the power of the HolySpirit of God.
The Holy Spirit of God lives inyou, he lives in me, he lives
in Matt, he lives in everybodywho's been made a partaker of

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the Holy Spirit through theirfaith, putting their faith in
Jesus Christ and his finishedwork on the cross.
We love you, guys and we want tothank you for tuning in to
episode.
What is this?
Five, five now Five of theBible Says podcast.
We hope you're loving it asmuch as we are.
Hey, we had some fun.
We cut up, we went on sometirades and some tangents, we

(01:08:29):
called some names and, hey, Ilove every bit of it.
We're here, this is raw, it'sreal.
And hey, we are going to talk alot of soteriology, salvation
from time to time.
But we're going to bouncearound and Matt and I have some
things that are coming up.
We're going to get into somecontroversial things, some

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cultural things, maybe even somehard sections of the Bible and
some of the rabbit holes that welove to go down the hard parts
in the Bible.
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Get this word out there.
Matt, you want to say anythingbefore we sign off tonight?

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No man, I'm done.
You're done, you're tired.
You're ready to go home and getsomething to eat.

Matt (01:09:19):
It is supper time.

Brandon (01:09:20):
It is supper time.
Yeah, it's about 8.36 whenwe're recording this.

Matt (01:09:24):
I mean this has been awesome.
It is Filled with the Spirit.

Brandon (01:09:28):
The Spirit was guiding this last one.
He grabbed that and took it.

Matt (01:09:32):
Did you feel that, yeah, I did, I did, I did, I did.
I was like wow that, yeah, thatwas awesome.

Brandon (01:09:38):
And you know what?
I don't know, maybe the HolySpirit took over in that last
20-minute section just for youand I don't know who.
You are out there, but I wantyou to know this.
Matt and I, we pray over thispodcast.
We pray for you.
We may not know you, we maynever know you, but we want you
to know that we care about you.
We may not know you, we maynever know you, but we want you

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to know that we care about you,we love you.
We want you to know the Godthat wrote this book and we want
you to know this book.
We want you to know salvationthrough Jesus Christ and Him
alone.
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