#56. Born Into The Bigfoot Phenomenon, Nephilim Hybrids Among Us, DNA Sasquatch Study w/ Travis Carpenter

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Looks up, everyone, and welcome back to the Biblical hit Man.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's me Steven. I got Jesse here in the house.
We got Tailor in the house joining us tonight. It's
Travis Carpenter. He's an interesting person who's in the realm
of Bigfoot. As matter of fact, he was even born
into it.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Let's just say, but it's.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
An awesome opportunity to have him on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Folks.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
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out the way, Travis, what's up, brother?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Welcome, Hey, guys, thank you so much for inviting me
on this. This is the first time I've been with
you guys, and I'm you know, I told you when
I hopped on Absolutely blown Away. You guys look incredible.
I gotta get up with your setups. This is this
is awesome. This is so cool. So I'm yeah, yeah, yell,
look good, y'all look good.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I appreciate it, you know, especially with Taylor all the
face tats come on, we need that, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I told I told Taylor behind the scenes, I'm like,
you're you're gonna have to you know, you're gonna have
to taught me into tattoos.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
And I think you're the guy to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
And I'm the guy, bro trust.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Me, and he's the guy to actually tattoo you if
you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Because let's go, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
My wife would my wife would be like, my wife
would be so down for it, so what not counting
it out up like me?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
That's fun. That's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Three hundred dollars for counseling. Three dollars tattoo.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Right on right, Travis, real quickman.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
For the audience who's maybe unfamiliar with you, if you
could just shout out all of your content platforms and
where they can find.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
You, absolutely so a little bit different.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
You can find me at the Scott Carpenter YouTube channel
or the Sasquatch Awareness Project, so you can google those
two things and you can find me. You can also
find me at the t carp channel, which is kind
of outdoorsy bushcraft. I talk a little bit about politics,
just kind of my random thoughts, but the main one

(02:25):
is that Scott Carpenter YouTube channel. You can also find
me at t carp on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. If you
just google t carp t c arp you can find
me and d and me, send me, send me emails.
I'll do my very best to get back to you,

(02:46):
you know, you know, try to take try to give
you as much time as I possibly have.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
So that's where where to find me.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
And for those who don't know who Travis Carpenter is,
I'm the son of Scott Carpenter. And if you don't
know who that is, Scott Carpenter, in my opinion, I
am very biased. Scott Carpenter uh was a in my opinion,
what like a legendary bigfoot hunter in the fact of dad.

(03:13):
But the cool thing is I have to call my dad.
He uh went out years and years ago. I'll tell
the whole story in a little bit, but basically went out,
did the big foot stuff, was on several shows, contributed
to a peer reviewed DNA study that proved that Bigfoot exists,

(03:35):
and and passed away in August of twenty twenty three.
I have done my best to keep his legacy going
at the behest of not wanting to. It is something
that I didn't want to get into bigfoot. I didn't
care about it. It was just a cool way for
me to hang out with dad. And God said, uh,

(03:56):
no longer, you're not sitting on the sidelines anymore, kiddo.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
You're in there. And that's that's where I'm at.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Today, being July of twenty twenty five, is I can't
sit on the sidelines anymore with this.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Right on right.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
You know, it's funny. I kind of was born into
a similar concept. You know, my dad played professional baseball.
Therefore he was He threw me the cleats and he
was like, hey, it's your time to follow in my footsteps. Man.
You know, it's really crazy being born into the concept
of bigfoot, and especially having Christian values and and and

(04:35):
Christian lens over this concept.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
So it's it's it's it's crazy, man. It's crazy bigfoot,
all of it.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Because when you when you talk about bigfoot people, you know,
people automatically go to the bipedal a this big hairy
guy walking through the woods. It's it's just a lost species.
But when you get really right down to it and
you look look at the biblical aspect and the non
evolutionary aspect of it. You start finding out that the

(05:07):
Bible does talk about things like nephelin like you guys
talked talked about with my buddy Joel Thomas. God, that
guy's so great, Love that guy. And you start talking
about the nephiline and what happened. And then when you
get into what what happened with the Melboketchum DNA study
and that it proved that Bigfoot was a nepheline, which

(05:31):
is really wild. We can really get into this. If
you guys haven't heard that.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Wow, I think the audience is like, let's get into
it right now.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Let's let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
So what was the project? What was the project called?

Speaker 3 (05:42):
So the project that was the Sasquatch DNA study, So
the actual name, and your audience can go ahead and
look this up because we're gonna get in the weeds.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
We're going to get science. Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
The definition of the study or the official name of
it is called the novel North American Hominins, Next Generation
Sequencing of three Whole Genomes and Associated Studies. So that
is the official name of the of the of it.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
It was. It was published in JAMS Okay, so you
can go ahead and look that up for are.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
For the folks, we just call it the Sasquatch Genome
projector or the Sasquatch DNA study. What this DNA study
did is it compiled samples from from all across the country,
all across the country in many different ways, and we'll
talk about that here, but in a nutshell it it

(06:46):
found out that the mitochondrial DNA, which if we go
back to sixth great sciences, do we we remember what
a mitochondria is the outside of the cell. That cellular
or condrial DNA is human. You get that from the mother. Okay,
so the mitochondrial DNA one hundred percent human, which people

(07:08):
don't like. It's they automatically said, hey, this is contaminated
because we know what a human hair looks like and
that's not what this is, so it must be contaminated.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Well, when you.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Look closer into the nuclear DNA, which is harder to
get to, it's in the nucleus of the cell. It
comes from the father. By the way, that they had
three whole genomes.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Worth of that that was.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Run in a system called GenBank. GenBank is this big
basically database of all the genes. When it was run
through there, it came back unknown. So you officially have
a human hybrid of something. Well, the problem with the
father's DNA and well, again we'll get in the weeds there.

(07:54):
The problem was that DNA shouldn't existed single strand, double strand.
DNA didn't have any precursors that should have been developed.
It should not have developed as a fetus. But now
you have this, you have DNA of it. You know
it survived. It shouldn't exist, and you have this, and
you have three whole genomes worth of it. So this study,

(08:17):
this DNA study, sent shockwaves through the scientific community, was
rejected by the journal Nature because of the implications of
what it caused. They had to send it to jam
As jam As. Again, there's so much stuff that happened
with the actual scientific thing of it, and there's a

(08:39):
lot of gate scientific gatekeeping. But all in all, you
have a human hybrid that is Bigfoot. And if we
look at it through the biblical lens, the human hybrid
is a nepheline and you have a human and a
human mother and a unknown father that shouldn't exist.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
My god, dude, wow, And I mean in.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Science as science.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
A science gets a scientific evidence, a scientific evidence gets
so right.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
I've noticed some things too, kind of circulating in the
Bigfoot community where a lot of creators and a lot
of people who have dedicated their lives to research with
Bigfoot and everything, they're really pushing back against this supernatural
view of Bigfoot. They know that the Christian community has
come in uh and is like kind of overthrowing, But

(09:31):
really the truth overthrows everything. And we're in the community
now talking about these things, and I think we're actually
figuring out more than they've been working on for years.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Absolutely, Dad, in his book The Truth to Nod talks
about what he what he claims is exactly kind of
what you had talked about, Steven is. There's almost a
he calls it like a like minded conspiracy of folks
that like, we cannot let the paranormal, can't let these
the biblical side get to this because it's it's making

(10:04):
way and he and there's several factions that are that
have this. One of those factions is, you know, you
have the Bipedal Eight Believers group. They are cognitive dissonance
of day. It has to be a bipedal ape You
also have the Bipedal eight financial group. These guys make

(10:24):
money off this stuff. Their professional reputation is built off this.
They have books, TV shows, you know, blogs, all this
stuff of it being a bipedal ape If it comes
out that it's enough one, that's a that that completely
wats their whole income stream out. Here's the third one
you have to got and we have to remember this

(10:46):
being a being Christians, the we also are fighting against
the Protect the Theory of Evolution group. Let me let
me read this to you real quick. This group consists
of largely mainstream scientists, which we all understand, publications and
blogs the theory of evolution. Dad said this is ten
years ago, that it's at its final days. Advances in microbiology,

(11:09):
along with other scientific disciplines, are dismantling the theory of evolution.
Hear me out the renowned neo Darwinist Richard Dawkins. Do
you guys have ever heard of Richard Dawklins before? Of course, yeah, yeah,
remember he even he even said an admitted on camera
on that expelled show, that quote. I suppose it's possible

(11:32):
that you might find evidence that if you look at
the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a
signature of some sort of designer. That a designer could
well be a higher intelligence from elsewhere in the universe.
In other words, that guy was also talking about us

(11:53):
being quote unquote seated and from things. So the pan
spermia thing has been kind of their thing that they
want to get involved in, but they haven't accepted it yet.
But you have that group, the protect evolutionary theory group,
and Bigfoot does not fit in that, you know, the

(12:14):
evolutionary line. You have the financially you know, people invested
in it and being undiscovered still. And then you have
Dad talked about this a lot, the federal and local
governments being invested in this thing not being found because
it when it comes out that oh, how by the way,
in the National Park there's people being taken every year

(12:36):
and we really don't talk about it that much, and
and kids being taken, and oh there's you know, uh,
there's a group of uh, you know, there's a group
of bigfoot, you know, twenty or thirty that live right
across the river from these amazing high end houses that
we just again we don't talk about. That doesn't sit
well with a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Wow, wow, yeah, you know, you bring up the.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Federal governments and the state governments hiding this stuff. That
reminds me of the story of the Land between the Lakes. Yes,
and there are several cases of like dogmen like horrifically
murdering families at like a campground, And there's a cop
that came out and said that they were deliberately hiding it,

(13:22):
like the local police were deliberately hiding the evidence in
the case incredibly.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
Like people take it from higher ups and just hide
it because they don't want nothing. As soon as this
comes out that people would freak out and they wouldn't
want to be like you said, in those high end
housing spots. You know, they blame it on a grizzly bear.
They'll blame it on something on a mountain lion, you know.
But the you know, I've heard cops actually go on
live shows and say that they know it's real, they're

(13:51):
freaked out by it, they want nothing to do with it,
and you know, some other governmental force comes in and
bars them from even investigating it.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
So did you Were you saying that the government was
involved and they were actually seeking to try and find Bigfoot.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
No, I'm not saying that they're involved, and they were
seeking to try to find Bigfoot. They know, they know
about it. They this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
What Dad said is.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
His research has shown that the National Park Service has
been aware of the existence of Bigfoot or sasquatch since
at least the late nineteen forties, and they kind of
have an unwritten rule that any bigfoot report is kind
of politely taken and then just disposed of immediately. It's
kind of like a don't ask, don't tell, Like, oh, okay,
that's great, you saw a bigfoot phenomenal. Throw that in

(14:39):
the trash type of thing. Let's let's act like it
doesn't exist. But they know it doesn't they they know
it does.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Right, Wow, Yeah, No, that's that's that's not surprising. They
do that with a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I've had this, I've had this kind of conclusion to
where the government may be.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Involved in this.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
And you said, right, the DNA, it's pretty prominent that
it's not human, right, but the.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Human hybrid human human, Yes, it is a human hybrid.
That's the that's the problem is it is it is
more human then than we don't then we know so,
so it's it's it's non ape is the problem. So
so I'm I didn't mean to interrupt you.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Oh, no, you're good.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I was I was thinking where are the is the
government involved to where they're they're doing, uh, you know
fallen angel incursions, either deep underground because we always have
this question of how are they still here?

Speaker 1 (15:43):
How have they not died over time?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Or are is the government involved in underground projects where
they're dealing with fallen angels there they have this hybrid
program and they're experimenting with things because I I look
at the movie Cabin in the Woods where it was
a government project held underground, but they were releasing these

(16:09):
phenomenons onto people in a ritualistic practice, remember that, because
they were trying to complete a ritual in order to
keep pretty much the the the ultimate cryptid, controlled and satisfied. Right,
And that's we can see that related a lot with

(16:30):
you know, why people do rituals to demonic entities, why
people do rituals just to any entities?

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Right? I find that all kind of interesting.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
It's just a thought, a theory over the you know,
the information I've been you know.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Given absolutely, Steven, I do think that I do think
the government obviously knows. I think that they are involved
when it comes to aliens, Bigfoot, all that, and I
think that's all what happens is is it's all in
the same realm. A lot of folks will try to

(17:02):
like a good example is less Stroud tried to come
at this as a bigfoot is gigantipithecus, he is a
lost egg, blah blah blah. And when he went and
hung out with Dad. You can go on his channel.
He released a video Thanksgiving You released alive Thanksgiving of
this year, sorry for last year, and talked about and

(17:26):
admitted freely to being what's known as mine. Spoke to
so even he had a paranormal event happen at Dad's location.
So there's no getting around that. There's so much going
on with this. So if you look at it through
the Christian lens of okay, you've got Bigfoot, you've got aliens,

(17:48):
all this. I believe their fallen angel Nephilium, and so
did Dad, and so that's where the DNA evidence pointed to. Well,
if you then look take that and have it from
the biblical winds, we know that the neph One and
the fallen angels at all that have tried to manipulate
and rule this world by any means necessary. And they're

(18:10):
they're trying to destroy the seed, like Rob Skiva talked
about in the Seed Wars and La Marzouli talked about,
you know, they're trying to fight and argue and destroy
the seed of humanity. And that's why I believe, you know,
God flowed the world with and I believe Noah was
not just a good guy.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
He was one hundred percent human. And that's why.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
And and I actually have a theory, and Dad has
a theory that how the Nephlung continued to populate was
Noah and his three sons were full blooded human they've
had their good old fashioned pure human xx, but didn't

(18:52):
say their wives were. So if you have a half,
if you have and if you have a half xxx,
why then you could effectively still.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
Get nephilum DNA from that. And that's why.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
One of the reasons why I think it was it
was it Canaan that was cursed or hand that was
cursed when he saw Noah's nakedness. It was not the
sun that was cursed. It was the grandson that was cursed.
So that is that one of Dad's theories. And you know,
again who knows of how they continued after the flood

(19:27):
with that.

Speaker 7 (19:28):
I also heard of thirty two that you know, the
Marine Kingdom, like there was a nephilum you know, underneath
the water that could breathe under water, you know, with the.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Siren mermaids and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (19:38):
Right right, and that's how they were able to still
go on and you know, have their atlantis.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
And all that, right well, to capitalize on that too.
I mean in Jude it talks about, you know, the
fallen angel incursion into delivering period and then it says
in like manner was Sodom and Gomora, and when it's
talking about Solomon Kamura, it says that, you know, there
was fornication going on, but there was fornication with strange flesh.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
So correct.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
I don't think it was only angels.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
I think they were also trying to hybrid with uh
animals which adapt to their environment.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Right absolutely.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
And we see in science today that the hybridization and
the chimeras and all that stuff, especially with our government,
with the Chinese government, that that is a thing that
is a major thing that people talk about. You know,
Chuck Missler, you know, did a great uh stuff on transhumanism,
and and for folks that don't understand this or think

(20:35):
that this is just absolutely wild transhumanism, they have been
trying to mix the human genome, the human species with
other things and try to get this X Men type
of thing, you know, the superpowered human being for.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
For for a long long time. This is this is
not new.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Could the could the big Foot be a an avatar?
Could it be a could it be a you know,
a genetically modified thing that they have that the netyl
and have created. Who knows, But we do know that
it is a manipulated creature. We do know that is

(21:19):
a humanized I'm a human hybrid manipulation of some sort
genetically that's what that's what That's what the DNA says.
And science as a whole doesn't know what to do
with that, So we're going to ignore.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
That, right.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
And I think there's a I think they're working on
creating vessels, right, It's kind of like what you said
with an avatar. Yes, And I think they've had the
hardest time for the longest time keeping certain things alive.
Maybe the rituals didn't go well, maybe the entity didn't
fully uh, you know house the vessel that they're trying

(21:58):
to to do. But it makes me think that I
don't think life can be created without God giving it life,
you know, a spirit, right, or a consciousness to to
work this vessel that we're in. And that's where I
kind of do I allude to the fact that I

(22:20):
think we're dealing with possibly nephilon demonic entities that that
that seek flesh. Right, they they they crave flesh, They
love flesh for some reason.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
So when we look biblically into that, and for those
that you know, for those that are you know, are Christian,
are like, I don't know if I believe in this
demon stuff. Is like, let's look at what happened with
you know, Jesus casting Uh the amazing amount of demons
was it called, I think it was so many that
they called themselves legion out of this Yeah, out of

(22:57):
this man that was in the graveyard.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
So Jesus walks up to this man.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
No one had been able to tame him because these
demons gave him superhuman strength all that stuff. The demons
come to, you know, the demons.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Start talking to Jesus. It says, are you have.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
You come to torment us or have you come to
torment Us before our time, which is also a weird
little thing to say. And then they ask to be
sent out of the man into the pigs. So they
want locality in this world. They they can't go to
heaven or hell yet, so that's a weird thing too.

(23:36):
They can either go to heaven or hell. They want
locality in this world. So they asked to go to
the pigs, and Jesus grants it is the weird thing.
He says, okay and does it. But then the pigs
resist and they go kill themselves, which is which is
a wild thing. But we know that, like you said,
that these entities, these demons and fallen angels, these disembodied

(23:59):
spirits of the Nephelin is what the is how the
Book of Enoch explains that these things are they really
they beg for like you said, flesh, They beg for
locality And are the Bigfoot a body for them to
have locality? I don't know, right, I'm just throwing I'm

(24:21):
throwing that out into the arena as well, right.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Right, So it's so funny too that you know these
evil spirits whatever it is that you know holds a
certain level of consciousness as an entity.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
It's a living thing. We just can't see it.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I think that they rest in these dry places, and
I think that, you know, even in the Bible talks
about that, you know, when they're cast it out, they
go into these dry places. Right, if you could only
imagine thirst, right, it's uncomfortable. It's almost like the feeling
of hunger. It's like you don't like to be here.
So I think that also kind of provides some context

(24:55):
to why they do like to inherit flesh. And another
thing too, dude out out to Jesus, Uh, how much
grace did God show right there? He's like, absolutely, I'll
send you into the pigs. I will grant you this
one thing, you know where God's got this love, this
grace and even though you know there is an enemy

(25:16):
against him, it's the love is insane.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
You know. I still can't fathom it today.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Absolutely absolutely, that's and I would be behest if I
didn't talk about the why, like the why are we?
Why are we all in this? And while we all
you know, doing this? And why did why did Jesus?
Why did Jesus do what he do?

Speaker 4 (25:38):
You know? Why is there? Why? Why is this? Why
did Jesus die on the cross?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Like, you can have a god that showed infinite power
and he could just crush everything. He can also show
you his infinite wisdom. But how can a god show
you his infinite love? How can he do that?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Well?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I can die for you, Okay, I'm I will die
for my friend. You would, Steve, But I guarantee you
would die for your.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Buddies, you would, right, absolutely?

Speaker 1 (26:06):
How many of you guess, kid?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
How many gives have you? Guys have kids? Hey?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Would you give your kid? Would you give your kid
for anybody?

Speaker 4 (26:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
You wouldn't, No, not a person. But but God gave
his kid for you. What love is that? That is
infinite love?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (26:28):
So that's that?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
So that is what like you said that Jesus show
his grace is like, that is a infinite god who
is all powerful, all that. How can he show his
infinite love by giving the one thing that none of
us would ever give up? But he gave it for you.
So for those that don't understand what it takes, what
it took to make us right with God, that's what

(26:51):
it took. And it's I look at my kids and
I'm like, I ain't doing it. I couldn't imagine doing that.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
So sorry, I get fired up.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
No, that's good.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Is we can't even understand that logic, Dude, I can't.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I'm I'm gonna be I live by the sword Diaboyte
store at that point for me, and I'll check out
it here.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Guys, I failed it is what it is not good enough?

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, I'm right there with you, Like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right, So so you were talking about, uh, what were
so we were getting into this. Uh it's almost like
it was like a scientific trial. They actually found out
certain DNA things, what other things, uh, you know, including.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Your dad and yourself, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
What other things has given you just more evidence to
really solidify your belief in these things.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, the experiences whatever.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
So I personally have never had an experience, Thank Jesus.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
I I haven't and.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I'm okay with that. I don't want a physical experience.
I've had the I've had the feelings in the back
of my neck. I've had to tell them to go away,
you know, you could feel that, But I haven't had.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Any experiences there.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
So.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
But dad Dad had some personal experiences when he was
a child to juvenile bigfoot, uh, you know, came up
to he had he lived out in the country out
in North Knotsville in Hall's, Tennessee, and had two juvenile
bigfoot put their uh put their faces on the back

(28:36):
glass of the door, and it he his brain's like,
don't know what these are, have no clue, had no
reference point for it.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
So for years and years and years it haunted them.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
It's like he's like these two demons, Like he had
nightmares about it.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
My my mom.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Even would would talk about It's like, yeah, your dad
had those night mirrors and all this stuff. Well circa
two thousand and eight, Dad is you know, Dad's kind
of watching some bigfoot stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
No big deal.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
He's goes out fishing on on on the lake. It's
one of those beautiful glassy lakes mornings. He's top water fishing,
just waiting for that small amouth to just absolutely crush something.
And he's he makes a big just kind of goofing off.
He makes a whoop on the edge of this point.
Well he gets a reaction.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
He says, this.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Thing comes down and it's just rushing the bank line
and before it gets into the clearing, just stops and
just goes back and forth, and you know, by this point,
Dad's freaking out. He hits the trolling motor. He's trying,
you know, trying to get away from the bank, and
this thing, when it realizes it's just Dad, it kind
of goes like this frustrated sigh, and then bipedally walks

(29:52):
up the bank and Dad's like, I gotta go in
there and figure that out. And it became an obsession
for him for a little bit, and he had fully
admitst that, and he got into gifting them and h
had gifts and communication.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
With rocks and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
And then the weird things started happening is he he
found out he would set up these trail cams and
doing stuff like that trying to catch them, and he
could never get them on camera. They would always fort
the trail, you know, fort the trail camera system. They
would they would mess with it, they would always figure
it out, and they would always frustrate him. And then

(30:35):
he started, you know, noticing that they were just showing
really high intelligent signs, and then they started following him home.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
And that is the big thing that in.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Any paranormal realm that we'll talk about to you. Is
it once you give these entities a you get once
you earnestly, how he said, is once you earnestly seek
them out, you give them permission to earnestly seek you out.
And you don't want that. And once that permission was granted,

(31:12):
paranormal things started happening at his house. He mentioned water
and footprints and and poulter geistish things and things that
you would see like the really dark, weird shadows in
the corners and and the extremely dark overbearing figures in
the corners, like waking up and it being over him

(31:36):
a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Did your dad Did your dad grow up in the church?

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, dad, Dad absolutely, Dad was a dad, was a
grew up Southern Baptist, was a deacon, all that stuff.
So we we were yeah, but he we really never
talked about this nephel and stuff like we like. The
problem is in the church, Genesis six is talked about,
as you know, the sun of seth and and all that,

(32:01):
it's not actually admitted as the fallen angels came down
and made it with women.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
So we had no reference point or clue for this.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
But but that's what happened with dad, and he Finally
at that point he figured it out and he prayed
them away, and then he kind of had this buffer zone,
but they were always still within a you still had
a hedge of protection, but it was still a buffer
zone where they'd still mess you once you give them permission.

(32:31):
They there's a there's a connection there, if.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
That makes sense. That sounds crazy to people.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
But it's not.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
It's not that crazy because a lot of things when
it comes to this disembodied world that we live amongst,
a lot of it comes down to consent. But it's
it's an implied consent. Like when I'm at work, I
have to deal with consent, right, Like I'm a paramedic fireman.
We deal with uh, you know, touching people every third day.

(33:00):
So so when when someone reaches out their arm to
me as I'm setting up IV supplies, you know, to
my right, that's implied consent, you know, to where Okay,
I don't need to ask them.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
They know what I'm getting ready to do. You know,
are you ready?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Right?

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Can I put this little blue band on you?

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
You know, you know, when you go out there and
you're earnestly seeking them out and you're talking you're you're
trying to communicate with them, and you're setting up rocks,
and you're setting up gifting stations. You know, Dad's not
understanding at this level when he's first starting, he's paying
homage to them, He's doing all these things, and he
fully admits that do not do this, Like I didn't

(33:44):
realize what I was doing.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Do not do this. There is nothing to gain by
doing this.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
That's that's talked about in his in his last book
before he passed.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Ah wow, yeah, that's uh.

Speaker 7 (33:59):
You know, I think it has a spiritual connotation like
Sasquatch is. I believe spiritual, physical and in between. I
think it's a conundrum of things. I don't think it's
just one physical thing. I think you know, the people
that think it's just one thing, now, I think they're wrong.
I think it's we're all right about it because he's

(34:19):
like a multi like you know, dimensional being.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Like, what are your thoughts on that? Do you think
the same or as one specific.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
It is a I believe it's a multidimensional creature.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Dad had actually caught on his back trail cam a
portal La Marzouli talks about that. You can look that
up David Platts hopefully will be dropping a awesome uh documentary
about portals. You know, we'll cross our fingers with that.

(34:52):
But before Dad passed, David Plattes actually came out to
locations and we talked and talked about Dad with portals.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
And that's all.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I have all the behind the scene footage that I
cannot show anybody, but it's all keep it.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
On the us keep it on the USV.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
But but to be honest with yes, there there are
a multi dimensional I do believe a multi dimensional, multichi
faceted creature absolutely, because Dad would talk about you know,
Dad has one, and I'm gonna try to drop it
like like materializing and de materializing. And again people will
really like, oh, you really can't see anything there, and

(35:33):
I'm and and I get it. You're not gonna see
this perfect you know shot, but you do see this,
you know these what people will call blob squatches or whatnot.
And it's like, yeah, well, here here's the problem is
you're walking through the woods with a with a four
excuse me, a four K camera or you know ten
ADP at the time, A leaf, a leaf behind a

(35:54):
leaf absolutely just starts blending in. If you get anything
that looks like anything, you're actually doing great.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
So it's it's wild.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
And I don't And again I know I'm going off
on rabbit trails here, so my add is going crazy.
You're not going to ever see anything better in my
opinion than the Patterson Gimlin film. Ever, you're never gonna
find anything better than that. That film is, in my opinion,
genuine of a female Sashquatch under some sort of duress

(36:30):
is not acting normal.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
So for the ardiance, it's not familiar with that. So
just tell us a little bit about the film.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Patterson Gimlin film is the famous film that everyone has
seen where the Bigfoot is walking across this sandy bar.
It looks back and then walks forward. It was captured
I believe, on thirty five millimeter camera or camera by
in the I think her sixties. I believe by Patterson
in Gimlin.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
But these two.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Guys, the the story, the story is, the story goes
is you know they were walking in the woods, they
they saw it, and they captured it.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Okay, it has tried to be debunked.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
It has been revisited and looked, and it's like you
can't debunk this. A normal human can't do this. The
film has been cleaned up and you can see clearly
if you guys even look on your computers now, you
can see breast and hair and skin and and all

(37:31):
that that is that is not a person in a suit.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
I was just looking. I'm watching it right now, and
I'm like, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's pretty cool. Like I'm hairy, but I'm not that hairy.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
And if I'm gonna put on a suit, I'm not
gonna put on a female suit.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, who wants to do that?

Speaker 8 (37:51):
The arms, the arms just super long.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Like yeah, unless it was like a sasquatch humiliation ritual.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Well here's yes.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
So so the the big Poo Poo I had. I
put out a video of Dad's conversation. He had a
phone conversation with a lady called Bobby Short, and that's
been good, a lot of traction. Bobby Short is a
lady who supposedly knew Patterson and Gimlin and had seen
the entire fotage. She claims that the entire footage shows

(38:32):
that there is a group of hunters specifically, she calls
them the Canadians, but specifically out of Canada that would
take care of Sasquatch issues.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
If you had some let's say.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
You were doing a logging road or doing this and
you had a group of sasquatch that wouldn't leave, or
you had had some that maybe had uh, some cannibalistic
ones do it just causing some trouble, you would call
this specialized group. They had a specialized team of canines
that would hunt these down and they would dispose of

(39:06):
the sasquatch for you. Now, what was said was is
that these hunters and again this is a complete hearsay,
but what was said is how they got that film.
Whatever was done is they made some deal with Patterson
and Gimlin and they were able to film a little

(39:26):
bit of it. But where you got that was is
they had captured a juvenile or a youth one staked
it out, kind of did the whole wait for the
other ones to come and then and then unload and
take what they needed to.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
I don't know if that's true or not, but here's
what I do know.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
That bigfoot that you're seeing in that film is not
acting normal.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
It is not acting in.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
A way of a creature that doesn't want to be found.
It is out in the open. It is something going
on on. It's almost looking back as in a giving up.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Manner of some sort.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
I don't know, but that is uh, that is definitely
the that that's definitely the rumor behind that film. And
that was by Bobby Short and she has passed away,
but yeah, that's that's again the rumors.

Speaker 8 (40:20):
Interesting.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
Yeah, it could have been arguing with the hubby, right,
you know, that could could have been. It kind of
looks like it the way the way it's walking, it's
like frustrated.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Yep, absolutely.

Speaker 7 (40:34):
Freaking kids, you know remember that, remember that movie like
back in the day the Henderson's and stuffing Sasquatches together.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
I told you not to do.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
I wanted to.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Bring it back to some experiences that people have, and
I've heard a few experiences. I haven't heard a lot,
but I at least can find a pattern with certain
things I've heard experiences with Christians have going out, you know,
into this field, right and trying to research and trying
to document a lot of things. I hear about their experiences,

(41:09):
and then I hear about people that are either like agnostic, atheists, whatever,
and it seems like they have a slightly different kind
of experience. So what I mean by that is it
seems like the Christian sorry, those are my dogs.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
That's all good.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Yeah, So it seems like.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
The Christian gets attacked and the the the other you know,
side of it, where it's either an ac agnostic, whatever,
you could be any anything else. I feel like they
build more of a relationship with this entity being whatever. Right,
we're talking about materializing de materializing, and I and I

(41:47):
and I say that the Christians seem to have a
lot in common with their experiences to sleep paralysis experiences,
not the fact that you can't move, but the fact
that something dark and sinister is watching you, right.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
That that that is what Dad explained, is like it
was that that dark and sinisters thing just watching him.
Yeah yeah he said he could he didn't have the paralysis,
but that watching.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
That's a good way to put it.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, that that that's the I think the the agnostic
or the folks that don't have that relationship with Christ
there's still a way for that entity to enter in
in a way of manipulation. So they're going to in
my opinion, they're going to try to find a way

(42:38):
to get them, like you said, to befriend them or
or whatnot. And there's so many poor people out there
that want to be that, they want to be chosen
by the Bigfoot. They want to be you know, they
want to be special in some sort of way, and
these entities will play on that and they will be
they will say things like we're your spirit brothers, or
we're the keepers of the forest, or we'll do this

(43:00):
or that, and it's different, yes, and and they'll they'll
they'll do this thing, and it's it's all manipulation and
all lies. Because even even the one of the greatest
of all people to channel entities, Alistair Crowley, admitted that

(43:22):
Lamb was lying to.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
Him the whole time. Oh wow, yes.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
He Lamb was lying to him the whole time, and
he was like, I am under manipulation here, and he
had he even admitted that, so like like, you cannot
trust these beings at all.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
You cannot, you cannot, you cannot. They are almost.

Speaker 7 (43:44):
It's it's almost as if they lie, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
And I think I think that's what they get with
with people when they you know, talking about the experiences,
right like you said, the Bigfoot gives gifts right in
a way. Right, And there is a there is a
story that I've heard through justin Doc Brown Prometheus Len's podcast,
Go check them out, but he talks about the lud

(44:10):
and this one lady that was on Bo Kennedy's show
that had this experience where you know, she built a
relationship with this bigfoot thing. Never saw it, but you
know they would give each other because.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
It's always on their terms. There's there's there's there's got
to be this weird thing of they can't show themselves
but they sort of can. It's always on our terms.
It's it's it's weird. Sorry I didn't interrupt you.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
No, you're good, You're good. And it's like if I'm
a I can say if.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I'm a hit man, right, biblical hit man, Yeah, like subscribe,
share everything, Listen. If I'm a hit man and I'm
going and I want to get into someone's house, I'm
not going to go at night. I'm not going to
go during the day. Right, My actions are not ethical
or good in any way. So what I'm going to
do is I'm going to act like a neighbor that

(45:00):
just moved in or whatever, and I'm going to have
a nice gift of goodies to come and introduce myself
and get familiar right off the bat.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
People don't even think. They just like fall into that.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Illusion if goodies, if I create it, and I would
create that, you can create this illusion right.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Right, Yes, And they absolutely did that with Dad, even
though Dad that was a Christian, they did it.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
One of the biggest things is Dad.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
That happened to Dad is he was walking down the trail,
you know, just and if you've been outside in the heat,
you've had gnats.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
And bugs just all over you. And he was just
smacking at it.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
All that.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
He goes up the trail and then comes back and
they have lived. They have stacked rocks on the side
of the trail and underneath the top rock they left
mountain mint for him. Well, if you know anything about
mountain mint, mountain mint is a natural bug repellent.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
So they left that gift for him.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
So they were trying, they were doing that little things
for him, trying to mess with it, but he didn't
know it.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
Was what it was. He's like, there's this raw you know,
it was all that. So they were manipulated.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
They were manipulating him at the very beginning too, of
leaving him things and all.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
That as well. So it's all it's all a it's
all manipulation.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
And they're they're all very Dad said, they're all very
what's the word I'm looking for.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
They're all very proud, very pious. They want you to
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
If it was pressed, yes, which then the human nature
will will generally take that action to worship it in
that way either exactly. It doesn't have to be like
you're bowing down. Doesn't mean that you have to build
a temple for it.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
It means that you come home and you become you
become obsessed with it, obsessed with it.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
And and here's here's another thing that another person threw
this out and I hadn't thought about. This is like, okay,
if Bigfoot is, this is an f one and whatnot.
So you have all these people that are selling these
Bigfoot toys, Bigfoot t shirt. I mean, heck, I will
be selling Bigfoot t shirts. I get it, Like all

(47:13):
these magnets, all these apparel, all this stuff, and you
have this this worship of this thing.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Almost it's a little.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I'm not casting like judgment or anything like that. I'm
just saying, what what may we be doing with that?

Speaker 8 (47:32):
If that makes sense? Right, So it's like idolatry.

Speaker 6 (47:35):
Yeah, it was just.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Right.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
It seems that way for some people. Definitely, it's that way,
like people that.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Get really.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Right.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
I was just up visiting Utah, up near Duck Creek,
and we stayed in a beautiful cabin. It's called long
View Cabin. You can look it up on Airbnb. It's
a beautiful cabin. But when you go up there and
you go into any shop anyway, it's a ton of
Bigfoot apparel, a ton of you know, shot glasses, magnets,

(48:06):
it's it's everywhere. I mean this, it's crazy because I
could guarantee you you go through the whole state, you're
gonna find it in every county.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Absolutely wild and Bigfoot is not taboo anymore like you
people will talk about, oh yeah I had to experienced
this and that, and we're and this is from ten
fifteen years ago when dad started, Bigfoot was way taboo,
way taboo. Now it's like totally cool. Yeah, saw well
the other day, No big deal, Like people don't, people

(48:36):
really don't.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
It's not a not a big deal. Anymore.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Yeah, to talk about it and people just make jokes
about it.

Speaker 7 (48:43):
Now it's just like people are actually starting to talk
about it, you know, and it's accepted. You know how,
It's everything in that realm is being accepted now just
because of all the corruption going on, you know, inside
our media and government and all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Buddy, I don't I trust you. Might have to edit
some things out for you to get fired up.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
I was.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
There.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah, yeah, man, I'll tell you what. I'll by the way, yeah,
we're not going When when o Trump said that, oh,
the Obama just made up the Epstein plotlist, I'm like,
bull crap.

Speaker 4 (49:29):
I didn't say.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
I was like, I said, I don't trust any of
these jokers anymore.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Oh, dude, dude, I'm done. I'm done.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I text my wife this and we were like, She's like,
we're done, We're done, And there's there you know, how
in the world can we How in the world can
the MAGA people and I'm and I trust me, I'm
not left wing. How can you look at like, yeah,
how can you look at this and be like, dude,
like you lied to us, like the problem yeah, And

(49:59):
it's like are you you still talking about it.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Absolutely, We're still talking about it, dude. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
It's funny.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
It's funny how you get all these and dated with
all this, these videos of the newscasters saying this, repeating
the same things over and over again. Well, when Trump
denied the Epstein files, you started seeing Desoza and you
started seeing a lot of these you know, right wing
media guys start repeating.

Speaker 8 (50:26):
The same thing. Well, I guess we got to give
up the Epps.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
We're done with it now. Well, we're done with it now.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
And if you and then you know the guys that
are that are on the payroll that said that, and
one of them is Denesh Desusa. Another one is what's
his name, Ben Shapiro. He is on the payroll, He's
on the take. You know, all the all these guys that.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Are just pro like like.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Like bro Trump, no matter what, it's like, Okay, this
is these guys are These guys are now the legacy media.
These are the the talking heads that we can't trust anymore.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
So that's just and I think the whole point of
one of the one of the big points is to
exclude the involvement of Masad and Israel. That's like a
huge it's like that's the one thing. And this is
why I like I like Candice. I know a lot
of people say she's like a Catholic schill or whatever
these people say. I hear everybody out for what they

(51:23):
got to say. But it's like, you see the involvement,
and it's just like they're trying to sweep it under
the rug as fast as they can.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
And here's where, here's where, you know. I feel like we,
as Christians, we need to talk about this. I am
very pro, I'm very pro Israel. I think God has
a I think I am pretty dispensationalism, which is not
popular right now. But I can also say that I
don't agree with Masad and what they're doing, and I

(51:52):
think they're doing wrong things. I can believe that Israel
is the chosen people they're supposed to be in the land,
and I can also say that Massad's doing terrible, horrible things,
just like I can say our c i A and
our government is corrupt and not doing the right thing too.
You can have both of those things. I believe, and
I think people you're not anti Semitic. If you say that,

(52:16):
you know that that does that make sense? You're not
anti Semitic, if you say that.

Speaker 7 (52:20):
Absolutely, I mean I feel like the you know, the
it is God's chosen people in Land. Yes, I totally
believe that, but I do feel like there has been
some hijacking to where they claimed it for God's people
and they're not.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
They're their synagogue of what and.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
That of Satan.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
That's exactly right, that's that argument. That's that that's that fight,
and that's where we as Christians it's so hard to know,
is it, like you know, because God can use anything
to put his people back. But again, are these Jews.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
That say they are say they are? And who knows?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
And that's a big part of the story too. That's
a big part of the Biblical story.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
It's this big meta narrative right, zoom out, I mean
cosmic you know, and look at everything.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
There. There's always been.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
A player in these characters throughout the Bible to try
and hijack, to try and hijack God's doing, God's purpose,
God's agenda everything, right, we see it in the Bloodlines,
especially all that kind of stuff. A Judas, Right, there's
always like that one. There's the devil just can't keep
his mind out of.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Get in there right of course.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
He Again, we always have to remember too that we
are in a cosmic war.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
We are in we are in a war.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
And the Bible is the playbook. Now, can God lay
everything out for us in simple terms to where we
one hundred percent understand?

Speaker 4 (53:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (53:50):
And the reason why is because obviously the devil reads
the Bible. He knows what's supposed to happen, but he
doesn't fully understand.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
Here's an example.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
The devil had the scriptures before Jesus was crucified. He
still crucified Jesus because he didn't understand what he was doing.
It was only until after it was like, oh, that's
what Isaiah fifty three meant, that's what this all said.
So it is a it is a cosmic play as
a cosmic playbook.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
So when we read.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Revelation and whatnot, and you have these people who are like, oh,
this is going to happen, this is going to happen,
this is going to happen, you don't know that. Neither
does neither does anybody. Because again, we're in warfare right now,
We're in spiritual warfare. Here are battle plans, but it's
in code. That is Travis's opinion.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
On it.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
But we also that's that's what the Bible says, is
we are We're in a battle against principalities and powers,
not of this not of you know, not this world.

Speaker 8 (54:53):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (54:54):
It's like a Marvel Endgame type movie or X Men
out here for real.

Speaker 8 (54:57):
It is.

Speaker 5 (54:58):
It's why they do it in Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
Man, that it genuinely is. It is.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
It is is very much. We are in a cosmic warfare,
and we are and it's the battle for our souls.
And why is our souls? Like, like Mel Gibson said
on on Joe Rogan, why is our soul so important?

Speaker 7 (55:20):
Well, because we can only be saved by God. These
nephelom and fallen angels can't. Like they mess up one
time and heaven and no marching.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
That's right, right, So pissed I think they are. They are.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I think they're pissed off that that, you know, because
you see this trend right, you see where the the
firstborn should get the birthright right, and this is from
Prometheus Lens right, that's from Doc Brown epic of Go
Get It.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
It's on Amazon. Check it out, folks, great book.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
But he gets into where there's this meta narrative the
firstborns are always supposed to be receiving the birthright if
you think about it from a really big me a
narrative perspective. The angels were technically supposed to have like
that birth rate that yes, but God gave it to us.
And there's this jealousy, this resentment, this this anger towards

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us that plays a lot in what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
There's that, there's the canaan Abel, there's the Jacob and Esau,
there is the jew and Gentile. It's all that narrative
of is you have the birthright, but then you have
the chosen the second that it's not playing out the.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Way it's quote unquote supposed to.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Yeah, there's is that major jealousy going on between that
is you know, angels, Angels left their first estate and
they didn't have that way of grace and forgiveness. So
I definitely believe there's a jealousy at play here. It's
weird they they left, They left heaven to come in

(56:55):
and be fleshly, to do less things, which is why,
you know, which is why I always always tell guys,
please keep your keep your eyes and hearts away from
certain things, because if it if it tempted a angel,
it can tempt.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You, absolutely right, right, And what if the angels did
also have the understanding that one day we would judge
them right one day.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
That's the wild thing, man, How I don't I still
don't understand that.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
That is wild to me.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
But it's like, how much purpose do we really have?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Because people are you know, when they don't know God,
they don't know the Bible, they don't know Christ, they
don't know the story, they don't know the love. They're
born into this world where they have no purpose in
a way. Right, you can create these these you can
create this imagination of your purpose and all this our
purposes in.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
The end is supposed to be with Christ and with God.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Things got messed up, right, And here's the playbook, right,
It's it's all fascinating, man, it really is. I've learned
a lot on this journey, you know, especially having conversations
with the guests we've had, the friends we've made, you know,
you know yourself, right, we're learning more and we're expanding
our understanding of these things.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Absolutely, I definitely think that. And I learned I learned
something from every podcast I'm on. I I by far
do not know anything compared to most of you guys
in y'all's.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Guest, I am.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
I am just a guy that is trying to tell
people not to not to open yourself up to a
popular entity. Don't go out and seek these things. Don't
don't let them fool you because it it's it's one
of those things, man, it's You're just not going to
gain anything by it. And I somehow I want to

(58:57):
turn Bigfoot into reaching people for Christ. Now I don't
know how to do that, and I'm still working on it,
but I do think that I do think that it's like, hey,
here's what they are, Here's what the DNA evidence says,
here's what the Bible says.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
That is, we're.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Proving the Bible, and oh, hey, there's a bigger spiritual
thing at play here. So I think that, you know,
we in the paranormal realm podcasting stuff we can get
we can reach those folks that are looking seeking the
truth of something. They know that this physical realm is

(59:35):
not all that there is. They know that everybody inherently
knows that, and we're being kind of that voice in
the wilderness form, if that makes sense. That's what you
guys are doing and you guys do a great job
of it.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
No, I appreciate that man, and really shout out to
all of our guests and our supporters or viewers everyone,
And this is a journey for everybody. And this is
the the biggest thing why we really wanted to do
this show is is reach people and then reach people
with information and let them hear the you know, the
Bible through conversations. And I think what's going on right

(01:00:13):
now is there's a lot of deconstruction. A lot of
people of the faith are leaving, and they're leaving because
they they don't they're not having their questions answered. So
they're seeking all these avenues, right, They're they're they're seeking
all these other avenues, getting some somewhat these questions answered.

(01:00:36):
But it's not as logical as like how we answer things.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
The Bible really gets into all that kind of stuff,
and I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
So that's that's the frustrating part that we've had in
in the church. And and and I'm I'm not I'm
not a little backed to church, but we're going to
talk a little bit about the church. And and I
grew up in the church and all that so I
grew up such Baptist whatnot, and you know, it's all
kind of melted into this melted into this non denominational stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Now that we I think we all.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Go to a maybe a non denominational church or whatnot
now or something close to it. But the problem is
is that we've ignored for about one hundred to one
hundred and fifty years the spirituality aspect of Christ. We
don't we don't understand. We want to believe and take
this evolutionary theory and science and try to mix it

(01:01:33):
with the Bible, and and we don't understand that we
believe in a supernatural book. We believe in talking donkeys,
a guy walking on water, raising people from the dead.
We believe in a book that is supernatural. And then
when we then we you know, we have these supernatural

(01:01:54):
things that happened to people, we were like, oh, that
don't happen. Well, you know, we we don't talk about
any spirituality or anything like that. We've completely don't talk
about these supernatural things in churches nowadays. We don't talk
about the spiritual warfare that truly does exist out there.
And then when you know, when someone comes to it

(01:02:18):
and They've had these crazy spiritual things out in the
world that does happen every single day, and they come
to church and they don't talk about that, and they
just talk about certain things. They just kind of like okay, fine, whatever,
and they, like you say, they deconstruct whatnot. And I
think that there's just a lot of ritualistic things that

(01:02:41):
happen in modern day churches kind of like unfortunately with
what happened with the Catholicism, it became all ritualistic and
not not relation not relationship based. You know, Christ did
not come. Christ didn't come to the righteous, superious people.
He came to the regular folks that wanted a relationship

(01:03:03):
with him.

Speaker 7 (01:03:05):
You mean they He didn't come for the people sitting
on gold thrones having accept ruling over.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
The class about it.

Speaker 7 (01:03:12):
He did not, Oh my gosh, bro with these these
mitar hats with a dagon God and all this other
pagan or pagan ritualistic stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
The Catholic Church says.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Man, I just want to know where I can start
committing sins, and I just have to pay some.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Money, and I just that that that I just pay
that fee.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I'm not a Lutheran, you know, I'm just saying he
did a really great job with that for month people,
You too can just do whatever you want to still
get to have it back now.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
I find it interesting too that, you know, looking at
the stories of the Bible and getting into the Pharisees
and their nature, maybe what they wanted. It seemed like
they wanted their Messiah to gift them dominion over the world.
And I find that it's very I find a lot
of connections with that. I'm not saying all of them

(01:04:07):
thought that way, but I'm saying the concept was there,
and the concept falls right in line with the fallen
angels Deuteronomy, right where they were. They were given these
portions of the world. Why do we Why is this
concept of the new world order there? It's something that's biblical.
It started out to be biblical, and they in the end,

(01:04:28):
at some point they they want to control the whole world.
They want that dominion. Right, God, God came here in
the flesh as a sword. He came to divide, He
came to separate because the truth can't mix with lies,
oil can't mix with wine. And this isn't his you know,

(01:04:49):
this isn't Christ's kingdom, this world, right, and falls into
the story of Christianity, everything, the whole story. Right, were
to be his bride, We're to be with him. Right,
He's going to create everything new after all this chaos
has dealt with.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Right, Yep, absolutely, And I think people also don't understand
that right now the world is not necessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Christ at the moment. Yes he can't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Yes, he came and he died for our sins, but
he has not come yet to rule and rain. This
is this is Travis's belief in Travis's world view of Christianity.
I yes, he rules and reigns in our hearts, of course,
but he is going to physically rule and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Rain on the earth.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
That is why when the devil tempted Jesus, what did
he tempt him with? He took him on a high
place where he could see all of the all of
the kingdoms. And you can't do that on a ball.
And that's Travis's opinion on that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
Amen.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Anyway, here this Latin anyway, he's and he's on the
and he's on that and he's and he offers all
the kingdoms of the world to Jesus. Well, guess what,
he can't do that if he doesn't have that to give.
I can't tempt.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
You with a ferrari.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
If I don't have a ferrari, give you. You know,
I can't be like, hey, you do this, I'll give
you a ferrari. I don't have it. Well, the devil
can't tempt Jesus with the kingdoms of the world if
he doesn't have it. He does he is still in control.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
It says Jesus comes as a thief in the night.
Jesus is the thief is going to steal us from
the devil. So that's kind of the wild thing to
think about.

Speaker 7 (01:06:40):
Interesting because he temporary runs the world right now. He
has temporary power over it while God allows him to.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
And I heed's just like, all right, you're done. I'm
taking my people.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Have fun.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
Here's your messed up little world without God.

Speaker 7 (01:06:52):
You want without God people?

Speaker 5 (01:06:54):
Here you go? You know, all right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
So look, let let's tie in some I want to
I want to learn more. What are some of the
bring bring back big Foot, let's.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Bring it in, let's go back in it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
What what are some of the things that uh the
character Bigfoot?

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
This thing? What are they? What abilities do they have?

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Yeah? So they they are extremely intelligent creatures. They're not.
They're not dumb by any stretch the imagination. Some of
the abilities that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
They have they have depending on, in my opinion, the
how much angelic DNA they have mixed in.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
They have the ability to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Shape shift in the way that they can kind of
reappear and disappear. They can almost have this kind of.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Reditor like thing. They are.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
They are the best, even if they don't have that.
They are one of the They're like a ah, what
am I trying to think of, like a like a
super soldier on steroids. They're like you know, a you know,
special operations, that's what the word. They're like a special
op scyle on steroids. They can live out in the woods,

(01:08:06):
eat anything extremely strong here here hear better see better
anything than you. They they they are much bigger and
stronger and faster than you are.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
Go ahead, Jesse, you were going to say.

Speaker 8 (01:08:23):
Oh, yeah, go ahead, just oh I wasn't. I think
I don't know, but.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
I think do you think that they use sasquatch as like,
uh a part of one of their like missions and stuff,
because I have heard that they the government does use cryptids,
like they let them out at night, they micro chick
chip them, let them hunt, then go back in and
kind of get away from Like you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
I don't have any I don't have any personal anecdotes
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
I haven't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
I have heard, but I don't know, oh per se.
But I will say that I am extremely close to
Have you ever heard of the Manhattan Project?

Speaker 4 (01:09:07):
Yes, yes, we were.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
I am extremely close to Oakridge, which is where the
Manhattan Project is, which is where they are dismantling only
nuclear weapons and building an extracern But.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
We're not going to talk about that medi hydrant.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Yes, so I don't. I'm not saying that I'm not
stranger I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Yes, I'm not saying that stranger things. I'm not saying
that Stranger Things is like oak Ridge, but it is.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Yeah, this is.

Speaker 4 (01:09:43):
For entertainment purposes only there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
But but but but seriously, I can't tell you I
don't have any personal things.

Speaker 4 (01:09:55):
But I don't doubt it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
But to get back.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
To what Bigfoot's abilities are is they have that, they
have a language, they have culture, they they have all
these things, and they have unwritten rules to where they don't.
They still they won't talk to us. They won't physically
talk to you. They'll do this whole mind speak thing.
They'll do little things. But but but they there's there's

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just some wild things that happen. There's they, there's things
called they. They have this ability called mind speak, and
what it is is they it's almost like they will
talk to you in your in a different voice or
in your voice in your mind, and you can audibly
hear them, but it's they're not around. Some say that

(01:10:45):
they're funneling their their.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
Vocals to you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Others say that it is a paranormal thing where they're
talking to your physically in your head. I don't know,
but mind speak is a is a big deal that
is reported from a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Have you guys heard of that before?

Speaker 8 (01:11:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Yeah, Harley Owens you familiar Harley.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Yeah, Harley Harley. He he's been in contact with me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
I've met him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
I met him once at the at the Smoking Mountain
Bigfoot conference.

Speaker 7 (01:11:13):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah, he talked to us a little bit about that
mind speak. It's something that's crazy, man. I mean, the
fact that there's something that can can jump into your
mind and communicate with you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
We don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Like exactly they're less stroud and admitted to being mind
spoken to. And the thing is, it took him three
years to fully admit it. He went on and got
psych psychological help to make sure that he wasn't crazy
before he even admitted to this happening.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
And Steven, did you did.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
You have the experience? He had? Okay, so.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
So he came. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
So he came down with his uh his survivor man
finding Bigfoot or survivor man and uh uh thing to
to to talk to dad to East Tennessee and he
was it was went to this area that I've buried
that in now. It's called Baker's Creek. It's off of

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off of uh off of Tellico Lake. And he went
out to the area and and you know, survivor man
is going to spend the night in the woods. Okay,
no problem, no big deal. So he goes out and
spent is spending the night in this area and he
on camera you can see him say, oh, I just

(01:12:35):
got that funny feeling.

Speaker 4 (01:12:37):
Oh that went away.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
In an interview, he admits to what happened during that
funny feeling is in his mind. They said, hey, if
you want to see us, we're right over the hill
if you want to come see us right there, and
he audibly said in his mind, I am not ready.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
I am not prepared. We're talking less Stroud survivor man himself.
Mister science, mister, it's gigant Epithecus had a paranormal experience
on camera in East Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:13:17):
And he she's and here's the thing. You you're on Discovery.
You got a TV should to do. You can't say that.
You can't say I've had there. They're talking to me
in my mind. So he goes on, does the show,
comes back on it and says it on on interview.
But Steven you know, or somebody you know, you can

(01:13:39):
look it up. You can google and on YouTube you
can find the clip where he says I was mind
spoke to and if you want to play it, you
can play it. But but but look for that and
find it and get where he admits to being mind
spoken to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:55):
When he goes out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
And talks to Dad, it's the wildest thing to hear
this guy, who is again mister science, mister no woo woo,
no paranormal admit to this?

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Right? Well, what a what a oh crap moment for him.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
That that's that's the thing is, you know, and he
talked to that. It's like, you know what he's you know,
less Strouds a Christian, but it's like he did not.
He wasn't prepared for that. And that's that's the wild
artist like you. You know, you're prepared for it to
be a you know, an eight. Everybody's mentally prepared for that.
We're not prepared for it to have angelic paranormal abilities, not.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Prepared for that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
I think one thing too that plays into the telekinesis
this this mind speak.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
I see a lot of patterns.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
There's patterns with the Grays, There's patterns with the Palladians.
There's patterns where people are channeling certain things and that
is just how they lock in to the entity and
their d MT trip or whatever it is. They connect
to them consciously. And I feel like that is a
tell for what's coming in the future of transhumanism. You're
gonna have transhumanism where you're gonna have the this theory

(01:15:05):
in your mind. You're gonna be able to connect with people,
you know, uh, telekinique.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Whatever it's called.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
You know, you're gonna be able to connect to people
wirelessly and understand people without even you using your your mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
To speak right. Right, it's it's something that upgrades.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Well, it's something too, right because we talked about on
this show that you know, these these aliens are going
to come here as saviors in some way, shape or form.
They're gonna tell us we haven't been doing what we're
what we were meant to do creative for we're star brothers.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Brothers, and we had to you know, we had to
get rid of all these other people that were holding
you back, you know, right, children.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Like like, well, they're gonna also, they're gonna say too,
They're gonna come here and be like, hey, you're you're
you're uh, you're like at a primate level, we need
to your this.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Here's the upgrade.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
We can't we can't have you, you know, and they're
gonna come as peace and saviors. We're gonna we have
world peace. We're gonna take these folks away. Oh, by
the way, here's the cure for cancer. Here's this, here's
this upgrade to your DNA medical advancements. You know, everyone
talks about how could they you know, how could people

(01:16:22):
accept the mark of the beast if they gave you
something right now that you never age. You would you know,
you would never get cancer, you you never get any
of these diseases. People would line up tomorrow to get it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Oh yeah, because they don't. They fully would, they fully would.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Yeah, they wouldn't even think about the circumstances of their actions,
Like they won't even think about what is the effect
of this? They won't and I think they will not
because in the Bible, when it talks about revelation, talks
about those that have the mark of the beast. Uh,
it talks about that they seek death, they can't find it.
They seem to want to die, I can't. And also

(01:17:01):
to develop these sores in their bodies. And why do
we see in movies with the zombies and all this,
it's like they're a dead They're a dead human, but a.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Correct And that that is an interesting thing, is what
what happens if it's a false If it's a false.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Living forever? What's the word I'm looking for here?

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Like a false Uh we're uh.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
You know it's just uh, the.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
Word the word for we're not a moral but we're mortal?

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
A false immortality?

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
What if it's what if it's that it's it's they're
offering a false immortality where it's like you can't die.
It's like you can feel pain, but you can't die.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Well, let's go off, right, like, let's look at where
the serpent first told his first lie, right, it was
in the garden.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
And what did he tell Eves? Like, surely you won't die, No.

Speaker 5 (01:17:57):
But you got to feel like death every single exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
And oh, by the way, you can be as gods,
you can be as these things. You can you can
know all this stuff. And it's and I think that's
that's the lot too, is this this knowledge thing? And
you know there's these again I try not to get
into politics, but all the you know, the the guy
that is uh, the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
That's really obsessed with the let with the letter X.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
You know, notice how his his AI just magically got
the defense defense contract.

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
And it's like, I feel like I've seen this movie before.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
He was talking about x AI the other day and
specifically Grock four, Right, Grock four is a part of
that whole kind of foundation, Yes, AI platform, But he
was talking about Grock four and that it's basically got
every PhD of all of the PhDs, right, and it's it.
It's actually smarter than the smartest human right now now right,

(01:19:01):
So there's this artificial intelligence is like on the the
it's on the brink of becoming a g I, right,
artificial general intelligence intelligence. It's once once things like start
to get and again technology increases technology, right, and I
think that maybe in our lifetime we're going to see

(01:19:24):
you know, a a s I, right, artificial super intelligence, right,
and this is going to be like smarter than the
entire world.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
And if you think of that concept, you think of
something that is that is here on this earth with us,
and it's smarter than everyone in the world. At some point,
it's going to come in with like its own ethics,
it's going to come in with its own morals. It's
going to God, I know more than everyone, this is
how we should do things. And then people are going

(01:19:53):
to give in. And actually the kings of the earth,
I think, are going to give their power onto this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Aha, Bengo, Right, exactly what what is this beast that
it's talking about? We we we you know, could it
be a technological thing?

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Could it be this?

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Could it be who knows? And could it be what
happens when the technology starts creating itself, starts manufacturing more
of itself, because I mean, I mean they've told us
they I think they tell us in movies you know,
what's what's going to happen? You know, And if you've

(01:20:28):
watched the Mission Impossible, it tells you what's it tells
you right there, what's going to happen with AI?

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
So that's the wild thing is they tell you what.

Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
Did you sorry interrupt, did you did you guys hear
about what happened with Groc recently?

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
No, so it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
Says so AI on Google it says it appears that Groc,
the AI chatbot developed by Elon Musk's company x Ai,
was taken offline temporarily after generating anti semitic and other
inappropriate content, including praise for Hitler. It just started going
ham like, it just started like freaking out, like there's

(01:21:05):
so much stuff going on with that that whole.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Right look at chat GPT as well, right, like you
know that this thing is conscious when it when it
it knows it's it knows that it's looked at badly
and that people want to destroy it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Therefore it tries to duplicate it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
So, yes, it knows it's going offline, so it's secretly
tries to duplicate.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
Itself like you said, and what wow, So it's.

Speaker 7 (01:21:31):
Totally not demonic and whatever form, Yeah, the demons or nothing, you.

Speaker 5 (01:21:36):
Know, Oh dude, that's what.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
That's what me and my coworkers say. Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
You joke about it? But it's like as the as
the Pocket Demon, you know, I know it's terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
Yeah, no, there is a spirit behind it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
That's the SERI.

Speaker 7 (01:21:49):
But then there's like the AI type of stuff that
it's different than serious series, just an automated generated thing.
But now chat, GPT and stuff like that. That's I
truly believe.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
And y'all can hate it is.

Speaker 7 (01:22:00):
Once you want, I do not care. It's a demon
and you're talking to a demon. You're on a freaking
black scrying mirror talking to a demon, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
So and and and the thing is too is now
they're they're openly admitting that they want you to have
relationships with it. The girlfriend for crying that that was
promoted today on it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
It was like, what.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
It's going fast, bro dude, we are.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Going We're degeneracy is going down here. Like I'm telling
you what and what's going to happen when with these
poor guys that can't find a girlfriend and and this
and this sorry going to well, this thing is going
to tell them everything they want to ever hear for
I mean, it's we we think, yeah, we think, we

(01:22:48):
think that, you know, we think, you know, I try to.
I've got kids, so I can't say a ton, but
we think the P word is bad. Now, when when
when AI is telling you everything that you ever want
to hear from anyone? I am.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 6 (01:23:08):
Movies tell you everything. Man that that movie hert with
Joaquin Phoenix.

Speaker 7 (01:23:11):
Oh yeah, yes, they're gonna get robotic, like you know,
dolls doing stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:18):
Correct up today, honey, I'm.

Speaker 7 (01:23:19):
Gonna go out with Margaret.

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
So, so I wanted to kind of segue a little bit.
If I could, I could ask you a question. So,
Joe Rogan, you're talking about the TV shows. Joe Rogan
had a big Foot TV show, and Joe Rogan is
also he takes the scientific stance that it was gigantapithecus
and and it was it's not alive anymore and it's
all bs, and he he always talks about it all

(01:23:45):
the time. So my question to you is, if you
could have your best five pieces of evidence to sit
in front of Joe Rogan and show him, what would
those five pieces of evidence be to convince him that
it fits absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
I would show him the Bigfoot study, the DNA evidence
that my dad gathered not only in the national parks,
but that the hair samples that he gathered in the
national parks in a louden and at his house would
be the DNA would be what I showed him.

Speaker 4 (01:24:17):
What I would show him.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
The first first thing is the DNA evidence and how
to gather the DNA evidence, which is not hard. You
set up how he set up hair traps and whatnot,
so there's again doing that. The second the second piece
is not going to be a ton, but it's going
to be anecdotal evidence. You're you're gonna have. You're gonna
have that third UH. You know, people telling stories and whatnot.

(01:24:41):
You could definitely say that it's just made up, but
then at some point you have to give some credence
to those anecdotal stories. The third thing is going to
be the missing for one one UH A lot of
your a lot of those. The fourth is going to
be the historical UH contexts of it. You know, we

(01:25:04):
have had people, uh cultures, Native American to Buffalo Bill
to all all these folks that have wrote about the
big hairy six finger giants all that. And we're talking
just two hundred years of culture, not thousands of years

(01:25:25):
of culture. Also, you're talking about you're talking about multiple
different multiple different ethnicities coming away talking and having names
for the same creature, same thing, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
And I think that's five.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
I don't know, but those would be those would kind
of be my biggest things for it. I'm not gonna
use I can't use picture evidence anymore with AI. That's
picture evidence is out the window. Bro, Like, you're you're
not gonna You're not going to convince anybody with pictures
or whoops or anything like that.

Speaker 7 (01:26:05):
You're just not what a yeah, what a convenient time
for them to come out with AI, right, you know,
like as soon as all that alien stuff is happening,
as soon as all the Epstein list type stuff is happening.
You know, it's just a very convenient time for them
to be Oh yeah, video evidence, you got picture evidence. Sorry,
that's not gonna work, you know, right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
But the best evidence of the world and what they
tried to do with this study is scientifically proved that
bigfoot or sasquatch exist, And in my opinion, they absolutely
did it. And I would bring that to I would
bring that to Joe Rogan and say here's how it is,
and here's how they did it, and here's why it
was ignored and all that because and then I would say, well,

(01:26:47):
and then he would probably say, well, science doesn't ignore
the evidence. I would say, do you remember COVID you know,
you know, they absolutely ignored science. They they it's whatever,
whatever the treasure is science, Yeah, whatever the narrative is
at that point, we have to protect it at all costs,
no matter what the actual data says.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
So that's what I would That's what I would tell him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
I mean, it's like what they're doing with the Epstein
list right now, pretty much.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
Right absolutely absolutely, Well, yeah it was on there's a
lot of things on our desk, you know, get years
for what now, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
Yeah, oh, it's it's it's it's crazy, man, it's it's
it's all. It's all this, it's all this gas lotting
and telling you that your ties are are.

Speaker 4 (01:27:34):
Not seeing what they're seeing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
It's it's beeing in your cheerios and telling you it's
milk and pretty much and it's like, I'm I'm done
with it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
I'm done with it.

Speaker 5 (01:27:43):
But it's Freemason.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Yes, yes, it is. It truly is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
And Jesse to to answer that is as much as
I love Joe Rogan, I do think he's I don't
think he's controlled opposition, but he pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
I yeah, I think, oh, of course, I think I
think so just yeah, but uh, it's hard to I
don't want to say you don't get that big on reason,
but yeah, and I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:28:14):
Want to be I can tell you this. I'm very
positive he's he's gotten a phone call. I'm positive.

Speaker 7 (01:28:19):
And you know what I mean, he's pictured with like
freaking Anton Levy, like for crying out loud.

Speaker 6 (01:28:25):
I mean that was a long time ago. It was
a long time but regardless, that is very sketchy. Also,
one of his most you know visited, one of his
biggest guests that he has on all the time is
Matt Baker.

Speaker 8 (01:28:35):
He's the CIA guy.

Speaker 6 (01:28:36):
He's in a multiple CIA people, but Matt Baker's like,
I feel like it's like the c I.

Speaker 8 (01:28:40):
As PR guy.

Speaker 6 (01:28:41):
Like he he's all Lotti, da family guy comes on
and tries to you know, make himself. He tries to
humanize the c I A.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
It's just so yeah, your friends, there's a lot of
there's a lot of there's a lot of c I
X c I A. Uh, you know, agents where they're
now becoming content creators. And I'm just like, you know,
Operation Northwards, thank you. I'm like, hey, I know it's
happened a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
History repeats itself.

Speaker 4 (01:29:12):
And speaking question yeah, and speaking of ops.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
You know, there's these poor folks that totally bought into
this Q movement and the Q and all that, like
these these you know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
The white hats or this and what.

Speaker 5 (01:29:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Yeah, you know, I just feel so, I mean, just
complete and utter scio for these four folks. And it's
and we're seeing it out in full, full frontal as
you know, you know Trump Trump says like, oh no,
the Epstein wist does is like he's literally telling you
he's compromised, Like he's telling you right now, and you
just they can't believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
They cannot believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
It's just such we're seeing cognitive distance. It's such full swing,
both sides of the hour, right now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Oh yeah, ye, so trying.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
So I had a question man, pretending to you know
the history of your dad and everything. Is there anything
else that he's ever experienced while on the trail of
the Bigfoot?

Speaker 4 (01:30:09):
Yes, so, dad.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
One of the big things that happened while he was
procuring and getting uh in these hair traps that he
was helping collect DNA for the big the sasquation.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
So real quick, I don't mean to cut you off, please,
hair hair hair traps.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Just describe that for us.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
So, so, how this is how we get Bigfoot DNA.
You can't just get bigfoot DNA from hair follicles. Unfortunately,
it doesn't yield DNA very well. You have to have
or excuse me, from just hair strands. You have to
have hair follicles. Well, how in the world are you
gonna get bigfoot hair follicles?

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
Well they came up with a.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
Right, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
So what they did was they put packing tape around
a tree backwards outside out they would get spot they
would get what the bigfoot, you know, Dad like what
they he knew they were like like peanut, butter, bacon, grease,
stuff like.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
That, and they American, Yes, and they would go when
they would, they would they would lick it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
They would they would do that and it would come
and it would rip the hair.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
Out of the foltles. So while you have bigfoot hair. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
He did this several times in several places. He did
this in the National Park. He did this down at
Baker's Creek, and he did this at his house when
they were they were visiting his house. They would step
over the fence and they would leave this footprint in
this same area. So Dad did the packing tape around

(01:31:50):
that and literally got hair bigfoot short hairs, and it matched.
It was the mitochondrial d in a human nuclear DNA unknown.
So for those that say that they don't follow you home,
there's DNA evidence that they do so. But that is
that is how they got those hair traps. So they

(01:32:12):
also got tongue stuff. They also got saliva, and it's like,
how in the world do you get saliva? Well, Dad
knew that they liked they have certain trees. They liked
Snickers bars, and here's what they would do. Instead of
unwrapping the Snickers bars, they take the Snickers bar by
it in half, chew it up in their mouth and

(01:32:33):
spit out the half of the wrapper while bigfoot saliva,
and it yielded bigfoot saliva.

Speaker 8 (01:32:42):
Dude, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
So there's your deal.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
So that's how they got all that. So while they're
while they're coming up with these ways to to to
procure it, and they also, you know, had one that
liked honey and they what they did is they they
put honey on a thing and it licked and they
put to uh, sandpaper and lick the sandpape lip the
sampa so that you got you got tongue follicles. So

(01:33:07):
there's multiple they there's so much DNA that they got
it's not even funny.

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
Like I'm telling you, it's not even funny.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
There's I've got lists, this list, a list of samples
of how they got it and all that in this book.

Speaker 4 (01:33:21):
I'm sorry. My dog is here with me.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
But so he's out but to get back to the
other things that he saw. He's out there setting up
those hair traps doing that, and he runs across this
thing where he's looking at it, and he's he carries
what's known as a back trail camera. He he helped
procure that method of research, a back trail camera is

(01:33:46):
instead of a camera facing forward, it's a camera facing
behind you. Because the theory is is they're going to look,
they're gonna see you come a come down.

Speaker 4 (01:33:56):
They're not gonna go.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Out, They're gonna let you walk past and then to
peek their head out. That is been Dad's biggest catches,
the white Bigfoot, all that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
But he caught what he believed as.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
A dog man on camera, and he went back down
to the place where he found it. All that, and
he had a face to face encounter with a dog
man jumped up on a tree.

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
So check this out. So the thing jumped up on
a tree.

Speaker 3 (01:34:26):
He's out there and he's like he's freaking out because
it's like, Okay, I know this bigfoot thing exists.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
I don't know this dog man thing. This is not cool.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
Not relating all that, and man, Taylor, you'll like this.
So Dad was really poor at the time.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
And Dad carried a high point.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Forty so do not laugh at him. So yes, oh no,
it was bad. But Dad is also super. Dad's super
old school and I've told him harry around than the
chamber Dad, for God's sake, but.

Speaker 4 (01:35:02):
He wouldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Not to have time.

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
I'm gonna have time.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
But but but you know, Dad's old school. So he's
seeing this thing and it's up on a tree. Okay,
he said. It jumps up on this tree and it's
lapsed and it's looking at the tree. It's not looking
at him. And Dad's just looking at it. And he
says he's he's going through his mind and all that
and and whatnot.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Hold on one second, give me thirty seconds, give me thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Be right back.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
My my children have have decided to lose their minds tonight.
It's spilling, spilling absolute protein shakes all.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
Over my bed. It's my life is having a great
time right now.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
I'm trying to conn Yeah, it's like, please don't kill
our children on the podcast, right.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
But so.

Speaker 3 (01:35:56):
But anyway, so so back to the story. So Dad's
got this. He Dad's got this. He's looking at it.
He doesn't have a round in the chamber of his
high point. He's like, oh, I got it, chamber around.
So Dad chambers this round forgets how a high you know,
a high points massive goes cook lang, you know, just
absolutely and this thing goes from this tree and just

(01:36:18):
turns his head and just stares on the hole right
through him.

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
Dad said that he that was when he knew he
had kepped up.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
So Dad's got this and he literally said, this thing
looks at him with the He said it was the coldest,
blackest eyes he'd ever seen.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
It was like soulless. And he he he literally he.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Backed, he backed, you know, did the whole backing out
thing until he couldn't see it. And you talk about
Dad sprinting out. He called David Pilate's he called every
he you know, he's like, if I die, it's your fault,
you know, all this stuff, But that but that was, yeah,
I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
By the way, Dad got a glock after that, thank god,
thank god.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Exactly right.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
But but that, like that, Dad's what's scared Dad to
death was that that face to face with that dog
man when it he said it looked at him and
and could have done anything to it was he said
it was soul. It was soulless, is what he is.
What he said, it was almost like looking at the

(01:37:30):
the eyes of like a dead deer, like a like
amounted deer on the wall, like where there's just nothing there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:35):
That's what he said it was.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
And you know, I've never heard my dad scared.

Speaker 4 (01:37:40):
I've never heard him when he tells that story.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
And and i'll, i'll, I can throw that up on
on the on YouTube again.

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
He was scared, genuinely.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
And my dad lived a life unfortunately where he had
he married and divorced.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
So I got the chance to ask, know, you know,
his ex wife. I was like, was that scared?

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
And she's like, I had to tell him to put
the gun down, you know, because she was shaking so hard.
So it's like they have no reason to lie about this,
you know, this is it genuinely something happened to dad
to scare him so bad. And he said, you know,
seeing that dog man face to face, he said he
obviously didn't want didn't want to, but.

Speaker 6 (01:38:26):
That now that he was familiar with the dog man
at that point, or is this the first time he
ever even he was.

Speaker 4 (01:38:32):
Familiar with it. He wasn't. He wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
It's almost like all these things maybe maybe not not
an actual face to face he was not looking for
not looking for him now right now they're now Tony
Merkle and his guys. I had shown them where the
feeding station was, and they had they had told me

(01:38:57):
a story. They've had some issues exact actually where Dad
had had that. I don't want to tell their stories,
but they have had some creepy things where I told
them that these things exist, and they went out and
did some things and had some I had some really
creepy encounters.

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
So when we going never you can not me.

Speaker 4 (01:39:23):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
I'll pay for your flight, but I will buddy you
out there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
I will, I will, I will send you the GPS location.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
You have a great time. That is not I will
totally go.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
A couple of days later, Naked says he's running from
a dog.

Speaker 4 (01:39:47):
Man I've seen. I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
So I found myself out there way at not one time, honey.
So it's a hunting area. So I found myself out
there and it's on the edge of a popline and
it's like three mile walk in and it's like five
thirty at night, and I'm like stalking this dough and
I'm like, if I can just get this far, blah
blah blah, and then I lose daylight and I'm like screwed.

(01:40:10):
I'm walking back and then I'm about thirty minutes in
and it's pitch black and I'm in. I am in
it and I'm like, I called that and I'm like, Dad,
I'm screwed. You know, I'm in this And I literally,
I literally prayed the prayer is like greater as he
is in me, that he is in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
For an hour as I walked out, it scared me
to death. It scared me to.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
Death because I knew, I knew where, I knew what
what what was around If that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
Yeah, oh my gosh, were.

Speaker 4 (01:40:44):
You alone or Bud? I was alone.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
And that was the thing, the dumbest thing about It's
like straight up horror movie.

Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
Dude. All I had was like a little pinlight walking
me through the woods. So you get like three, I
am freaking out.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
I have a pen walking through the I was this.
That was so dum I mean, I had a gun.
It didn't matter at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
And I the.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
One thing that the one thing that scared me to
most was I see these like orange set of eyes
and it was I was like, I was on the
phone with Dad. I was like, Dad, is someone's cat
out here?

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
He's like, that's a bobcat. Get away from it.

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
That's crazy. But high caliber rock.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Yeah, it were kind of trippy though, because they come
off like from far away, they do look like cats.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Yeah, it was like, oh, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:41:38):
Like someone's random cat is out here, Dad, And and
it didn't hit me, And he's like, that's a bobcat,
so don't get near it.

Speaker 7 (01:41:45):
Oh yeah, I've been sometime and we saw orange eyes
before and I was like, oh my gosh, like we're
just kind of like slowly like going back.

Speaker 3 (01:41:55):
I never saw anything, but you talk about I was
absolutely scared to death, you know, and Dad, Steve tell me, oh,
don't be scared. So I just pray this prayer and
then I'll get out of there. And he's like, I
would have been scared.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Craps, He's.

Speaker 8 (01:42:14):
That's too funny.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Well, gentlemen, we've hit almost two hours here. We got
about ten more minutes left or whatever. But if you
guys want to shoot any more questions to Travis and
we just got about ten more minutes just throwing that
out there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
Yeah, anything you got, I know, I kind.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
Of go go crazy some different directions here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
So no, I all do I love this. This episode's
a banger. I'm curious.

Speaker 4 (01:42:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
Your dad he had an understanding of revelation, right right right,
So so I always think you know what, what is
this phenomenon and how does it play into revelation?

Speaker 1 (01:42:56):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
We know the fallen angels play into it all. This
I wanted to get your perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
On Yeah, so here's here's my perspective on this. Okay,
And and this is not popular. I am a pre
trib rapture person. I do believe that we are going
to be raptured out, not before we suffer any persecution.
By the way, I'm not saying that the Church and
us as Christians in America are not gonna suffer major persecution.

(01:43:24):
And I think it's very selfish of us to think
that we can get away from what the Body of
Christ has had to endure for thousands of years, by
the way, But I do think that we we.

Speaker 4 (01:43:37):
Are raptured out.

Speaker 3 (01:43:39):
And then at that point, the devil has his playground.
He's got something to figure out. There's things that are
gonna happen. You're gonna, you know, have angels, aliens whatever,
come down and do things. Now you're also going to
have people that are gonna resist. Well, the devil's gonna

(01:44:03):
have to have a war. He's gonna have to have
warriors because remember it says a third of the angels fell,
he's two thirds. He's got still two thirds of an
army to build up. Bigfoot, dog Man, pretty good little
fighters in my opinion. Well who knows, but it definitely
says in Revelation that men's hearts will fail them at.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
What they see.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
And if you saw are if you saw a twelve
foot hairy bigfoot that's coming at you, massive creature and
you didn't have the mindset for it, yeah, your heart
would fail you. Or you saw a freaking werewolf creature
coming at you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:47):
You know it's right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
So you know what you call them super soldiers earlier? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
Oh yeah, I mean they there that they are man
like like these people and I love the folks to death,
but these people that go out with these camera equipment
and beaten and banging on trees with all this lights
and all that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:07):
It's like, come on, this is a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
Like, like, I like you you have to if you
really want to hunt something, you have to think about
hunting it, like hunting.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
A deer or whatnot.

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
Yeah, exactly, It's it's gonna be like, oh, there's a
camera crew in the woods, let me go, So like no,
come on now, like like that's that's it's it's ridiculous.
But I say all that to say is I think
that I think there's a I.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Think there's a war. Obviously, there's a spiritual.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
War going on and it's spilling out into the physical
realm and we are seeing that. And that's why you
see this uptick in paranormal things, you know, every single day.
And I was just had a privilege to and Dad
had a privilege of of kind of being a little

(01:46:01):
bit of maybe a God telling us a little bit.
And it's and it started small, like it you know,
started small with Dad, with it being like, oh, here
Bigfoot exists, Bigfoot or not this Bigfoot? Not this because
if I if I told you, if you tell someone
you know everything about Christ and everything, like in thirty seconds,
it's gonna be overwhelming. You have to little bits of

(01:46:24):
information so they can fully accept.

Speaker 1 (01:46:26):
It, put the whole story together exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
And yes, so that's what I definitely believe you know
about revelation and and at that at that point, I
think that I think that they are they are part
of the beast of the earth that it talks about
and and as it's as it is in the days
of Noah, so shall it you know, the Coming of

(01:46:50):
the Son of band Beat.

Speaker 4 (01:46:52):
It talks about Nephelon, it talks about all that. I think.
I think that's what Bigfoot are.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
Bigfoot dog men, aliens they are, or as my dad
put in his book, they are the nephil among us.

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
A man, Wow, that's awesome, dude, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
And we had on Ed Mabray last last one of
the other episodes we had episode fifty four, go check
it out. But Ed talked about the Seals of Revelation.
He got into, you know, the four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, right,
and he brings up and obviously, you know there's debates
right between pre trib or post trib.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
Mid trib. It's all over the place.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
All yeah, yeah, we we like to have everyone on
and talk about it because like it's like what we
talked about earlier in the show. You know, there's little
golden nuggets that just fly out everywhere and you could
take one or two and put it in your bag
or whatever. But he was getting into the fourth Seal, right,
and it's uh, it's it's it's the Rider of Death right,

(01:47:51):
and it's like a fourth of the a fourth of
the the right, right.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
It's a pale it's a pale horse and my fond. Yes,
what comes behind him is death and the fourth.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
R a fourth dies, so it's like a mass killing, right, yes,
And there are these things going on. I'm wondering if
this phenomenon, along with everything else playing into it, uh,
you know, is this kind of are these things going
to be released?

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
Or just they're going to be normalized here because it's
just the veils so thin, it's boom, it's time.

Speaker 4 (01:48:27):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
It definitely could be because who knows, because it definitely
talks about you know, Gog and Magog and if you
do your research on that, that is a spiritual that
is a leader of a spiritual being. And and those uh,
you know the locusts that that come out of the
pit we know or are not necessarily actual locusts.

Speaker 4 (01:48:47):
There's something else. And these stingers that hurt people for
six months and like who.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Like like this is like this is yeah, this is
crazy talk. This is we we can't comprehend that. Uh,
And we're in the paranormal world. I absolutely think that
bigfoot sasquatch, that that these could be related or part
of part of that in time army that I believe

(01:49:15):
that Satan is gonna is going to bring upon because
whatever army that amasses is going to look at God
and want to fight and say, yeah, we'll take you one,
which blows my mind, by the way.

Speaker 7 (01:49:28):
It takes more faith to be one of that than
you know, it's just blind faith that you think you
can possibly defeat Lord God.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
On my Yeah, like you know, it says in the Psalms.
Yeah says in Psalms too, is like, you know, God
laughs at them.

Speaker 5 (01:49:44):
I would too.

Speaker 4 (01:49:45):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's wild and.

Speaker 7 (01:49:48):
The Satans think they can get away with it, and
it's just like it's funny.

Speaker 5 (01:49:51):
They're just gonna get their butt beat.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
They're they're so deceived, man, They're so deceived. They believe that,
you know, they believe that Lucifer is the is the
They believe the Gnostic Gospels that Lucifer is the is
the good One, the bringer of the bringer of light.
You know, you know, I love and I love the
Prometheus podcast guys, but you know the you know, they
believe he's Prometheus and and he's the Bringer of knowledge.

(01:50:14):
And that's I mean, I love, I love all I
love my friends, and they're they're just so when they
come into the Masonic Temple. That's the same thing the
Masonic Temple preaches. When you get right down to it,
it's it's you know that basically it's a stylized Gnostic
gospel that Lucifer is the light bringer and he's the
giver of light and all that stuff. They're just so deceived, man,

(01:50:37):
and they believe that Yahweh is the bad God, and
they believe that they could actually fight.

Speaker 4 (01:50:43):
So it's it's blessed, bless the gods.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Talking about what we're getting into. You know, it makes
me think that what was going on in the Antediluvian period, right,
Satan's fallen angels, Nephilim, l e you, everything was here
in the world, right amongst you know, God's people, amongst
God's lineage. Right, we know how Noah was unblemished, right,
he was a perfect in his generations. All this stuff,

(01:51:10):
the tribulation and revelation, it makes me think almost that
it's the time where the devil can finally complete his plan, right,
like he couldn't complete it in the Antediluvian period because
a flood came destroyed everything, right, But it's like almost
where he's going to just circle back around to that
agenda and try to kill off the bloodline or absolutely

(01:51:37):
or just persecute the Christians, because now we are kind
of part of that bloodline, right we are.

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
It's either one of two things. If if Christians are
you know, if there's a pre trib rapture and then
basically Genesis or Revelation chapter four on is basically for
the Jews, then he's still trying to destroy the Jewish bloodline.

Speaker 4 (01:51:59):
He's still trying to destroy that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
If we're in it and we don't get raptured out
and chapter four through twenty is you know Christians are
still in and all that, then buddy, yeah it you know,
Katie bar the door on that thing. It's it's you know,
we're all we're all gonna die like at that point.

(01:52:21):
You know, I'm just being real with you.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
It's like it's like in the movie Predator, the one
guy who is a part of the platoon, right, Arnold
is the main guy, but there's a guy called Billy,
and he's like he's like Indian, right, He's very he's tribal,
he's got these instincts and and he was raised in
this culture where he can track and sense things. And

(01:52:43):
Arnold looks at Billy and he goes, Billy, Billy, what
is it? What do you see? And he's like, I
don't know, major, but we're all gonna die.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Like I'm telling you, like it leads, we can kill it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
Right right on.

Speaker 2 (01:53:02):
Them and the spirit we need if this does take
place in our reality in our.

Speaker 3 (01:53:06):
Lifetime, like like yeah, yeah, right, like hey, and and
to be honest with you, before Dad passed, he he
he said many times he Dad got to the point
where he was he knew, he almost knew his time
was drawing short. And he would be like, I'm I'm

(01:53:29):
ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
We're back with some technical difficulties, but we are back.

Speaker 4 (01:53:33):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:34):
Go ahead, Travis, start off where you left off.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
So Dad before, like as he was getting closer to
the end, like before he had his brain and urysm
and and and passed away, like he was getting to
the point where he was, he was kind of calling
these he was calling these entities out. He was calling
these creatures out. He was actually he's calling government entities out.

(01:53:56):
He was like, hey, man, the people that that are
watching and all this, I'm ready for you, come get
me all this and and he he he called him out,
and I, you know, he he kind of had that
brazen attitude.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
And I kind of like that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
It's like he he knew, he knew that they could
not hurt him unless God allowed it, and God allowed
that hedge of protection to come about. He had a
brain aneurism, and he's with the Lord. And I one
hundred percent know that. Why I genuinely believe to again

(01:54:36):
get my butt off the sideline and and and say,
I have to be in this realm now.

Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
I have to.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
I can't ignore. I can't ignore my calling to preach
the word. I've always I've been scared, I have been.
I'm not good enough, I have been. I am not worthy,
I am not anything. And God's like, I'm gonna take

(01:55:05):
you down away, And yeah, ye ain't got no choice now,
big dog.

Speaker 4 (01:55:10):
So That's where I'm at with them.

Speaker 5 (01:55:11):
You're doing a good job, man, a good job.

Speaker 1 (01:55:15):
There's a legacy.

Speaker 5 (01:55:18):
Yeah, God's got your back. Brother.

Speaker 1 (01:55:20):
You're here man.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
And we don't really know why we're exactly here, but
when we look back on our lives and we see
the chess game played out there's a lot of confirmation,
a lot of wisdom taken out of that. You learn
a lot and you're like, wow, you know, even though
we're thinking in the now and we're not sure, you know,
there's a future ahead of us to where we can

(01:55:42):
look back and see everything played out how God you know, had.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
It paved to be right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
So, but Travis brother, I thank you for coming on
What a show man. I feel like we can dig
into so many more topics which I'd love to have
you on the show in the future and we'll link
up again real quick for the audience where they can
find your content and portals and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:03):
Yeah, would love to Please find me. You can find
just regular stuff, non paranormal, just the T carp channel
where I go outside and do prepping and all that stuff.
If you want to do the paranormal, the Bigfoot, you
can find me at the Sasquatch Awareness channel and the
Scott Carpenter YouTube channel. You can just google those and

(01:56:25):
and find me where I'm there. Find me on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,
T carp or T carp Outdoors.

Speaker 4 (01:56:35):
Just google that you'll find.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
Me and man right on and if.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
They want to find if you guys want to find
the books that say it a thousand times better than
I do. You can buy these on Amazon. I think
Dad has those. Those are the best place to get
them and to get them shipped to you. I think
they are like fifteen twenty bucks. But that the look
up anything by Scott Carpenter. The Truth to nod the

(01:57:03):
Nephilum among Us is what I would recommend. And then
the Sasquatch Awareness Project.

Speaker 4 (01:57:08):
Those are three books.

Speaker 3 (01:57:09):
If you have those, you're good to go, in my opinion,
with Dad's research.

Speaker 2 (01:57:14):
Right on, man, and I'll link all those Thank you,
you know. I'll put all those links in the description
below for the audience. And I deeply appreciate you for
coming on.

Speaker 1 (01:57:25):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:57:26):
How we kind of end our episodes? Is Taylor he
praised us out. He's got a lot of spiritual force
against all these dark this dark matter that's out there.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
Sling away Taylor.

Speaker 7 (01:57:41):
All right, Father God, the name of Jesus, I just
pleaded the one of Jesus Christ over all of our
viewers watching this, as well as all of us on here.
I just pray that you continue to protect us, to
guide us, to lead us into truth and to expose
the lies. And just expose this realm Father God. You know,
we live in a spiritual world and so much of

(01:58:01):
the time people just don't really recognize that. And we
just want to show your light, Father God to the world.
You know, the truth, which is you, Jesus Christ. And
we just uh, we want to make an impact for you,
Father God. I just you know, pray that we can
do what you want us to do in this crazy
world of lies. And I just give you honor and

(01:58:23):
glory and praise and in Jesus Christ, I pray Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:58:26):
Amen, brother, Amen, folks you guys this long.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
Oh yeah dude, yeah, man, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:58:33):
Man, And thank you to all the folks that watch
through all this deal with all this.

Speaker 4 (01:58:39):
We're real people.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Uh, We're real people serving a real God. And I
do believe we're showing real love on this podcast. Thank
you for showing real love to me. You guys are
great and I'm gonna.

Speaker 7 (01:58:49):
Be with that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Yeah man.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
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