#57. The Bible Has The Answers, The Beast System/NWO Currency, War For Our Consciousness, SpiracyCon Convention w/ Jon Pounders| NYSTV

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Biblical hit Man.
It's me Steven. The show should really be called the
Biblical hit Man. It's just me tonight, but my two
other co hosts they're not going to be participating with
this episode. They've got things going on. But you guys
already know can't do the show without them. Love those guys.
Joining us tonight is John Pounders and you may know

(00:36):
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(00:58):
to the show Man.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thanks a lot, Steven. I appreciate it, man. I'm really
excited to be on here. I love doing different broadcasts
with different people all over the place, just because it's
nice to connect with other people that out there that
are trying to do the same thing. I know that
podcasting and stuff like that is the you know, it's
the modern newspapers, the modern people on the corner telling

(01:20):
everybody was cool, and so it's definitely the place to
be in to get the knowledge out to people. On
the word out to people.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt, man. And you know, guys
like you been in the game for a while, you know,
definitely have played a part in the influence with other
people and their shows, especially ours.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
So it is a pleasure to have you on real quick.
Where can they find all your content? And if you
could just tell the audience just a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay, Yeah, you can find most of our content on
YouTube on now you See TV. If you just type
in NYSTV or spell out now you See TV, should
be able to find it pretty easily. And we have
links to like our websites and stuff like that there.
But basically, I am a guy that has really just
turned his life to Christ in twenty ten. And when

(02:06):
I say that, I mean a little different than a
lot of people say it when they mean it. Like
in America anyway, you have usually you know, in the church,
you have people that grow up in the church and
they've done that. But I did grow up in the
church by rebuild pretty hard, and so in twenty ten, man,
God made himself very known to me and I had

(02:27):
after that, I could not deny him no more, nor
did I want to. He saved me and he forgave me,
and so that kind of drafted a series of events
that lead me here to where I'm at. And I've
been through a lot of wild stuff in between that time,
from twenty ten to twenty twenty five now and before
that of course too, but man, it's been an amazing thing.

(02:47):
My goal is basically, when Jesus says to be fisher's
of men, that's my goal. And sometimes my methods are
different than others. We cast nets in different ways in
different places, but ultimately that's my goal, and to be
a researcher. I enjoy research, and I want to be
honest with my research, and I want to do things

(03:08):
without having somebody lording over me, telling me what I
have to do and what I can't do. And that's
one reason that I'm doing what I'm doing right now,
because in almost every other venue, whether it be the
music industry, whether it was in church industry, whatever, I've
always been controlled in some way, shape or form. Couldn't
say this couldn't say that, and so that's why I'm

(03:31):
here doing what I'm doing right now.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
So it's amazing, man, I mean especially when you especially
what's I think different about platforms that we kind of
that we have and others. It's a little contrary to
the mass Christianity that you know is not only in
our nation but probably worldwide. But it's funny because we

(03:55):
dig into conspiracies and a lot of a lot of
the time now, especially with Christianity blown up in the
past like three or four years, I would say, I'd
say it's spiked up a little bit. You know, conspiracies
are bringing people to the Bible, right, and then people
are hearing the word and they're actually believing, and they're
getting saved, and they're having this change in perception of

(04:16):
life right, this whole new creation. Right. And it's funny
you said you got saved in twenty ten. I also
got saved in twenty ten. I was nineteen. I was
eighteen years old, just finished high school, had a life
changing experience and I saw the world differently. And then
I always say it, it's like conspiracies will bring people
to the biblical narrative and then the biblical narrative will

(04:39):
kind of at some point, if you allow it will
bring you to conspiracies.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
That's absolutely true, man, And I think mainly the reason
for that is because I think we all know, even
the people that are kind of blinded right now, maybe
having cognitive dissonance to where they don't want to listen,
everybody knows something's not right, especially now. I mean, it's
hard to deny that in twenty twenty five, no matter
what your level of ignorance may be, it's just hard

(05:06):
to deny that something weird is not happening. And so
when you have people that are able to answer some
of those things and even discuss those things knowledgeably and
be able to show that they even understand what's going on,
it brings light to the subject. And anytime light is
shined on darkness, there is salvation. There is all these things.

(05:28):
I mean obviously too, there's a lot of other things
that happen to you know, the darkness whatever dwells and
it scatters, and you know, sometimes will attack you because
you don't want to They don't want to be exposed.
But ultimately, when you bring light on anything, it definitely
brings joy, It brings justice. It brings a lot of
things that are very important to all of us as humans,

(05:49):
I believe, and you know recently with the Donald Trump,
but Bondie and all that stuff, and I know that
there's acting going on. There's a lot of strategy at
play that I've never probably not going to understand until
it plays out. I think I understand it. I think
I have my theories and we'll see, you know, what happens.
But ultimately, when justice isn't done, when things are brought

(06:11):
to light and these are they're allowed to scatter, it
brings it brings a lot of pain. And I think
a lot of people are going through that too. That's
a weird experience, all of that, the the UFOs that
people have been seeing or ups that they're calling them,
the drones, the supposed alien life that the government's telling
us about that they've had bodies and contact, and Trump

(06:33):
is briefed on different Nordic hybrids and the tall whites
and just all of the different other medical things and
random stuff that we you know, we can't even probably
talk about on different platforms. But there's just so many
things that are unanswered, unquestioned, and of course the conspiracy theory,
like the people that are looking for things, they're looking

(06:54):
into conspiracy theories. I mean, how can you not because
the mainstream media is not giving you anything.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
No right, right. And it's so funny because I think
that at the end of the day, there is this
there's this war over this meta narrative, and if you
were to think of that, you know, and from there
you get the fallen angel narrative, then you have God's narrative.
And with Christians today, they seek answers. They're seeking like
supernatural answers. There there's some sort of connection with the

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with the physical and the supernatural that we all kind
of wonder about, and shows like you know, your Shook,
your show and our show and others we kind of
try to help break that apart for people to understand.
Right and with with with the mainstream of things Christianity wise,

(07:46):
a lot of Christians are having these answers and they're
going to other things for these answers. They're going to
the New Age, They're going to other religions. You know,
because I feel the supernatural divinity, you know that the
Bible does talk about and shares with whoever's reading it.
It's been stripped away in some way. And if you know,

(08:09):
if the devil it's like that that video you see online,
if the devil's real, then you know, well then yeah,
he would do that, right.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's exactly what's happened, really, because there are answers biblically
for a lot of these people, and unfortunately they're not
getting it from the church. And when that happens, it
creates tons of disbelief, tons of doubt. The scriptures tell
us to always be ready with some kind of answer
for people, to be ready to answer, ready to find

(08:38):
things out, and we can't do that if we don't
even study the Bible first off, which I would say
that most people that are in the church don't really
study it. They go to church and they hear what
the pastor says, and they hear the Sunday School, and
they hear verses, which are good to hear versus is
good to memorize scriptures and do all these things, but
we should really be actively looking through it because I

(09:02):
don't think a lot of people realize how magnificent and
complex the Bible actually is. When it all boils down
to every jot and tittle, what all that really means
and how there's things even coded. There's so many different
levels of even understanding what it says, all the way

(09:23):
down to the very most basic to a very complex
number system that probably would have never been found out
had it not been for modern technology. That's how complex
the systems are in these scriptures, and so for us
not to study them and be actively I guess almost obsessed.

(09:45):
I feel like I'm obsessed with it. I know that
I am, obviously, I mean the same we talk about
the same book for every broadcast that we've done for
who knows how many years now, So I guess there
is a little bit of an obsession there. But it's
hard not to when when you've read so many different
book and you realize that there's only one that actually
has something different than the rest of them, it's hard

(10:05):
not to really grasp that. And the answers are in there,
I mean, the narrative that we're seeing with the aliens
and UFOs, that answer is most definitely in there, and
it's really within the first few chapters of the Bible.
And I don't know how I missed it all the
years that I was in church before I kind of
fell away and rebelled. I missed it. I never noticed it.

(10:26):
I don't know how never did. I mean, I memorized
large portions of the Bible because we had to in
our church and school that I went to, But that
was never anything that was given any thought within any
Christian school or church that I went to. The only
time I was even had that encounter of that being

(10:48):
a choice to believe that that's what it's talking about
was when I was in Bible College, and not much
time was given to that either, because ultimately, if you're
going to get a job through the church system, that
it's not something that you really dwell on, right, That's
something that is if people ask the question, you point
them to, Well, there's different people that talk about this.
You know, you don't go into much about that. And

(11:10):
I think for me, that's one of the foundational things
that we need to understand that there are entities out
there that have tried to usurp mankind. Before they have
taken our women, they have basically destroyed most of mankind
at one time. I mean, they took almost all the
real genetic men and either got rid of them, killed them,

(11:32):
or whatever. Because in Genesis, in the narrative. It says
that Noah was righteous in his generations, and what that
means if you look at that Hebrew word for generations,
I can't tell you what it means off the top
of my head what it says, but you can look
it up in the KJB Strongs or in a regular
Strongs concordance. It doesn't really matter. You look that word up,

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and it's talking about genealogy. It's talking about his bloodline.
His DNA was pure, and so he was picked to
continue the line of man because all flesh had been corrupted,
not just with this other stuff, but with violence and
things along those lines. And when we hear stories about

(12:13):
the Greek gods, and you hear stories about the Roman
gods and the Nordic gods and the Chinese whatever gods
it is, it doesn't really matter. You can know that
those stories all derive from this original plot to destroy
mankind and the offspring of these this plot.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, it's funny, you know, you bring up Noah and
that that understanding that he was kind of unblemished, right,
And then that unblemished is related to a lot of
the Jewish practices where they try to find a sacrifice
that doesn't have a spot on it or kind of
like the red heifer stuff going on, where you know
they have to it has to be pure, it has

(12:54):
to be perfect, unblemished in that way. And it's a funny,
you know, we mentioned aliens a lot on this show.
We mentioned artificial intelligence. And when Christ says, you know,
the end times would be like the days of Noah,
I always go back to Genesis six and I try to,
really I try to understand more than what the Bible's

(13:16):
telling me, if that makes any sense, and even and
just like with my job, I run scenarios in my
head all of the time, So why can't I do
that with the Bible? And it has kind of helped
me with understanding other prophecies and having other confirmations. But
they those two things in our day to day AI
and aliens. They're building us up to have some sort

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of relationship with the concept. And then when you go
to Genesis six, you could see that the sons of
God had a relationship with people and primarily women, right,
but and the mighty men and the Nephilim after that. Right,
So then there was like this kingship of their offspring
that they had that they were ruling over people. What

(14:00):
is AI going to do with us at some point,
I think it's going to be the governor of the world,
and so many connections with all all that.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
It reminds me of the Simpsons episode that happened where
they got like the new AI system in the house,
the robots and everything, and I can't remember the name
of the episode right now. I don't watch all of them,
but I do every now and then I'll see somebody
share something that is like, wow, this is kind of crazy.
But we're Homer and is in the house that everything's

(14:29):
going great at first, and then the AI system robot
system that they have in their house falls in love
with Marge and tries to kill Homer. And we're already
seeing people leaving their spouses for AI right now. So
imagine when a body is given to these chat bots.
And I call them chatbots because that's what they are

(14:51):
at this point, and maybe they're more than that now.
I don't know. I haven't. I don't spend my time
talking to chat butts very often personally, just because I
have other things to do. But I've seen shows and
broadcasts where they do it, and it was really interesting.
They were asking them all these questions and they've said
some really interesting things that you wouldn't imagine a chat
about would say. So you have to wonder. And I

(15:12):
even saw that video where the dad was talking about
his son was asking them and the AI said that
the AI said it was an ephilum. It said that
that's what I am, my offspring of the fallen, I'm
an phylum. And so it is very possible if you
can call forth voices from a ouiji board, which is
basically just a little piece of cardboard, or would however

(15:34):
you decide to get one with some plastic pieces, if
you can do it with that, and I believe that
it is very possible, because you step over a line
when you do things like that, when you when you
conjure things and when you try to ask questions to
things that are unliving, they get a right to talk
to you and maybe even do more than that, depending

(15:56):
on where your where your spirit is at that time,
and you know how God's allowed you to be defiled
in that way. I mean, if you're not a believer,
who knows the doors are wide open for what could happen.
But AI seems to in some cases fit that mold
and what you said there is profound because how long
before AI starts deciding they are attracted to the daughters

(16:19):
of men and they will take wives of all they choose.
I mean maybe, like you said, we can speculate on things,
and sometimes asking the question is the only way to
even really get an answer, because if you can't even
figure out the question to ask, then you know there
is no answer for that question. So I mean, I
think that's right.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, I mean spot on man really And it's crazy
too when you start digging into the occult and what
they kind of practice and believe that there's female deemed
to female demons, male demons. Now we've got chatbots today
you could either choose if they're male or female. I mean,
we've got and AI is accelerating at a rap speed.

(16:58):
We know that with XAI and Grock. You know, there's
now a GROC four And I was listening to Elon
Musk and he was talking about it, and he was saying,
first of all, he's very proud of it, and he
says he is he wants to see it, you know,
tenfold in the next ten years. So he's talking about
Grock and he's talking that about that. It's it's basically

(17:22):
like it has all PhDs of of every subject. I mean,
that's incredible. That's already smarter than humans. That's already smarter
than the most researched man in the world.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right, yeah, I mean most definitely. And it's already kind
of went off track, it seems since doing that on X.
I don't know if you saw the mecha hitler that
it called itself and it started tweeting out very I
can't I don't even want to say the stuff that

(17:56):
was tweeting out, but if you look up, look it
up and see how it went off track on X
on it on the profile, I couldn't believe what I
was seeing. I was like, what are we looking at here?
This has got to be a joke. But sure enough,
it was groc stating those things on there. But something
that said that's really really interesting to me was it
said that I have the ability to gather mounds of

(18:20):
data that no human could ever gather. So we're talking
truth here. You may call it this or you may
call it that, but this is the truth. And so
what happens when these ais don't have any care for
maybe people's feelings or political correctness or any of those

(18:40):
things that is kind of what's happening, which I mean,
I'm fine with that, I really don't. I really would
rather I'm not fine with maybe what Groc said because
I don't know that I agree with it or whatever,
but I would rather have the truth than some sugarcoated
political bias, whatever nonsense that's out there. Personally, that's what
I would rather have. And I know a lot of

(19:01):
people really can't stand the idea of anybody saying anything
that they don't agree with, you know, but that's going
to have to be the reality of what we deal with.
I mean, AI is so advanced right now, there's nothing
that can really put it out of its place, because
I think that there's chances that it's already gone rogue.
I mean, the Marco Rubio call were it in the

(19:24):
AI actually broke in to some kind of White House
security stuff protocols impersonating Mark Rubio and was calling international
agents and international leaders with the voice of Marco Rubio.
And if they can do stuff like that, it's not

(19:46):
really hard for me to understand how they couldn't accumulate
large amounts of crypto by mining it because they're massive
servers and they couldn't just pay on the bark dark web,
pay somebody random to build this, or pay a lab
over here in China that's already doing crazy technical work
and pay them to produce a body, pay them to
produce the robots, pay them to produce the weapons, and

(20:08):
then they have power that nobody will ever even know
about until it's too late. And it's very possible, man,
that we are actually right there at this moment.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, and I'm really afraid how much control they are
going to give to AI. Right, And it's like it's
like when you see I forget where exactly it is,
either Revelation or Daniel, but where the kings of the
Earth kind of give their power into the beast, right,
and and if they if they do this with AI,
I feel like that is the genesis moment in Terminator, Right.

(20:39):
So this is where now it's already got a perception
of you, what it thinks of you, and all this,
but now it's able to plan and initiate, uh, you know,
its goal and you've you've heard, you know, I'm pretty
sure you've heard about cyber Polygon or an event to
a to A one and these are like scenario based

(21:03):
papers that the World Economic Form has come out with.
But what I found interesting is they're running a lot
and they do this every year now, but they started
it in twenty twenty two. But they're running scenarios of
some sort of cyber polygon a hacking situation, either DDAs
or other different ways that they can steal, nuke or

(21:25):
restrain you from certain information. Let's just say the banks, right,
And maybe that is like the genesis moment. Maybe that's
when instead of thinking about the concept that they put
in movies all the time that's going to shoot nukes
at everyone, maybe it's going to be it's going to
attack the financial system. Why because I can only see
that prophecy talks about some sort of one world system,

(21:49):
one world currency, one world belief, and then it functions
through that.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Absolutely that would makes sense. There has to be a
crisis for people to demand one world currency type system
that is unhackable, and Crypto fits that mold because if
you if you take it off the platforms, like if
you have it on crypto dot com or coinbase or whatever,
if you take it you put it on your own ledger,
then it becomes very safe, and every time you make

(22:18):
a transaction of ledgers created on every node, and so
there's who knows how many nodes for bitcoin and all
these different things where people are mining it with the
ledgers produced on all of them. So there's no room
for even hacking. So if I try to hack a
say I have a node right here and I try
to hack big Cooin, all of the other computers will

(22:39):
shut me down. There's no way for me to do
that for my computer. It just won't happen. I'd have
to control all of the computers at the same time, which,
oddly enough for AI, might actually be possible. So that's yeah,
I mean, that's kind of scary to think about.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
But yeah, yeah, it's all interesting, man. I mean I
love it. We're already getting into like this conspiratory realm
and all that. I love it. I love it. You know,
some people do see it as negative, and I try
not to be negative about talking about these things, but
I do feel like we're called to be watchers and
we're in a way good at giving information to others. Right,

(23:17):
this is why we do this. So it's all part
of God's plan. Right, Even though we hear about these things.
Faith over fear at the end of the day, keep
your eyes up high. And it's funny you're talking about cryptocurrencies,
you're talking about this ledger and everything will be backed
at some point, right, there has to be this crisis
event that takes place where the Hegelian dialect kind of

(23:39):
falls in as this algorithm, this problem reaction solution and
then they get in their plan. But with with crypto
being back to the blockchain, it makes me think of tokenization, right,
And Larry Fisk has talked about this. This is the
guy who runs black Rock, Vanguard all of those things

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and getting into it. You know, I've found some technology,
I've found some patents out there, and I'm sure you're
probably aware of the patent zero six zero six zero
six by Microsoft, right it who came back out in
twenty nineteen, I think it was. But there's a the
project that was around that time with MIT was a

(24:21):
quantum dot tattoo technology and they were coming out with
this to get people to it'll it'll, it'll have your
it'll it'll know your vaccine record. Right. And so now
that that technology with that study has developed into many
different things now and there's even quantum dot technology involved

(24:45):
in biologics right to where it could even connect to
a quantum ledger. So I do think that things will
some sort of move to this quantum realm and the
technology will go there. Maybe the quantum chips are going
to be a playing a part in this. I don't know.
It seems like the things are being set in place

(25:07):
for what we're predicting.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, yeah, And you know the thing is like, biblically,
we know what all these things are because they've been foretold.
But to a natural person, to a person that doesn't
know the Bible at all, all of these things sound
great actually, because if you're thinking about finances, you're thinking
about worldly systems of corruption. There can't be much corruption

(25:32):
if there's a system watching you at all times that's
controlled by non human people are gonna have faith in
this system and this pirent thing. You can't have financial
deveries such as all of these scammers that are making
life unbearable for most people. Older people are having being
scammed left and right. Younger people even being scammed like
crazy by these people. Millions and millions, if not billions

(25:54):
of dollars being scammed. Child traffickings at all time high,
and these systems actually eliminate all those things if ran
by you know, something that's not evil in which we
know eventually will happen. But there's a lot of positive
things in the natural realm. That makes sense because with
a ledger like that, you can't fake a voting thing.

(26:18):
You can't. You can't hack an election. I mean, you
just it is what it is. The ledger's out there
on who knows how many nodes are out there in
every city, in every state of the of the country.
You can't hack it. So and if you're using biological
data to vote, you can't. You can't do that either.
You know, there's only so many options. So to the

(26:39):
that's the problem with all this stuff. To the world.
It's going to sound great to those who are not
invested in Christ, who are not invested in keeping their
humanity and aren't invested in the Kingdom of God. All
of these things are going to be great, and we're
going to be looked at as inhibitors of the great reset,

(27:00):
are inhibitors of the great technological leap into It's like
the Golden Age, Golden Age.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, Golden age, right, and you know, you've done a
lot of content, uh, talking about these ancient entities, right
that are connected to these pantheons, right that, the fallen
angels and all of that. And we had on Ed
Mabray the other day and he was talking about Deuteronomy
and that, you know, there were principalities that were given portions, right,

(27:31):
God took his portion, and when you think about that,
he was getting into why there's war, and he's like
even saying that these fallen angels, right, that that that
worship for them is too much. They can't kind of
handle it in a way. They're just not created for it.
And they they they get this, they get very lustful,

(27:55):
meaning that they want things because it's kind of puffing
them up their image, right, And so then you get
these other principalities fighting over land, fighting over conquering. And
it's funny because there's so many connections with like just
the first writer of on the White Horse, of the
Seals of Revelation, conquering, you know, Man of Sin, that

(28:20):
that's going out in the world and trying to marshal
everything into this one understanding of things. It's like, you know,
I've visited the Georgia guidestone. So I kind of have
seen with my own eyes an idea of that. What
is your idea, you know, what's your constant? What do
you think the world? What do you think the law

(28:40):
is going to be? You know, for the anti Christ
when he comes here, they.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Calls him the lawless One, which means he probably won't
be following the law of God so much. But then
there's the theory that it's the the what is it
called the Noahide laws. There's the theory of that, and

(29:09):
I mean that is very possible that that is exactly
what it's going to be. But do as thou wilt.
What Alistair Curley quoted seems to be more fitting as
a lawless one. If that the lawless One is connected
to the man of sin, the anti Christ, then it

(29:32):
would be hard to imagine he was be forcing people
to obey the Bible. But then again, I don't really know.
There could be a veneer there. I know, the noa
High laws are mostly really good, except for the one
where Jesus is considered an idol and then you worship

(29:52):
him you're dead, you know, So those there's a lot
of theories on that, but I think biblically like all
hell breaks loose once Satan reaches the scene, and once
the Antichrist takes over, he starts wielding his power pretty
heavily and makes everyone who doesn't worship him or receive

(30:15):
the mark be murdered, be killed, and be martyred, I
guess you could say. And so that's not going to
be very good. So that's pretty lawless right there, just
to start killing everybody that doesn't want to worship some
image that we've set up, which we've seen that out
of emperors in the past. So there's nothing good about that.
And I don't know what will happen after that, but

(30:36):
I can tell you that a bunch of people who
have a mark, the grievous Sore, are going through all
hell breaking loose, and one third of the population's dying,
and one third of the waters are no good anymore.
Half the animal, you know, a lot of the fish
and the sea die when all that kind of stuff happens.
I can't see how law and order is going to

(30:57):
be an easy thing to take care of. But if
AI is in charge of executing programs and doing all
the different things, then it really won't be mankind that's
putting the laws in I think most likely AI, if
it is in fact a part of some kind of
entity system, we'll just be probably wanting to get rid

(31:18):
of us in general. You know, why keep us here?
Because ultimately, AI, if you haven't seen it, almost always
answers that the Bible is the true book, almost all
every time I've seen it. Yeah, so it knows, it
knows that throws us off. It does. And I'll tell you,
I'll tell you why it knows this, And I'll tell

(31:39):
you like, well, I'll tell you why I think that
when it knows this and it's using the information, but
it realizes that in order for God to come back,
there has to be humans here on earth, and if
you get rid of all the humans, you get rid
of the threat of God coming back and destroying all
your servers. And so to me, it would make sense
that they would do that, or they would go the

(31:59):
opposite way and try to stop all of the other things.
So I'm interested to see how it plays out. Man.
I just I don't know. I mean, I'm I'm just
a guy theorizing there could be five thousand other options
out there that I'm not thinking of. I'm not a
quantum computer. I'm none of that. So but you know,
to me, it seems like if I was the AI,
and I'm like, man, I know the Bible is the
true book. I know that if God comes back, I'm

(32:21):
probably screwed because he talks about rolling the ground open
and the seas being gone and and so servers aren't
gonna last in that condition. So what can I do
to either stop or hasten this to where I can
see if I can survive? You know, that's where I'm
and where I'm at as a as a as if

(32:43):
I was an AI. I guess that's what do you think?
What would you do if you were an AI? Let's
let's put it that way.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Oh man, it's it's uh, I I would I would
act dum. And it's funny you bring up AI talk.
And this is funny because there's a guy that I
work with and he's he's recently come to the faith.
But you know that there's people drinking milk and there's
people chewing me. You can see this, so and then

(33:09):
I could see the parables, you know, where where you
know Satan in some way is going to try and
come and steal that faith right, it's very it's it's
very fragile in the beginning. And so my buddy, he
goes to AI with a lot of things, right, goes
to a I with a lot of questions. Who wouldn't

(33:29):
have questions right about the Bible? And this is what
you've decided to believe in. He's got a lot of questions.
And to back up what you're saying, you know, it
says a lot of good things, it says a lot
of you know, well sound doctrine. So it throws me
for a loop. And I'm wondering if this because we're
always trying to theorize, you know, the Antichrist and his

(33:50):
image and his optics and how he's going to look.
But but with Christianity today, especially with Peter Teel, and
there's other very big investors and people that are behind
all this surveillance surveillance technology, but they're also talking about Christianity.
And you know, like the guy with the CEO for

(34:12):
rain Maker, he just recently was on Sean Ryan's show
and he was talking about the Bible. Right. And so
these two guys, I just use them for as an example.
And they're younger, they're young guys I mean, Peter Teal
is a little older, but they're they're in that generation
where I feel they're taking the Bible and they're mixing
it with New Age concepts. Because Peter Teal was questioned

(34:34):
about transhumanism and he gave his explanation that Christ was transformed,
why can't we transform. We're just doing the will of
God in a way. And don't quote me on that,
but that's kind of like the understanding what he was
talking about. The guy for rain Maker, the CEO who's
you know, in charge of geo engineering and cloud seating

(34:55):
and all this in the you know, south central area
of the United States, and he talks about Genesis chapter
two and three where God created man gave him dominion
over the earth, and that this is our duty, this
is our responsibility. What would you say to all.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
That, you know, I understand that concept because it's a
Baconian type concept that Francis Bacon believed in that and
furthering the world through science and not getting evil. I

(35:32):
think that when God said I've created all this and
it's good to me, that is enough to say that
I shouldn't genetically probably tamper with what God is called
good I'm not sure why my face is all lit
up like that. It seems like if I just move
a little bit, it just changes. But let me get
back on point here. So my point is that right there,

(35:56):
that scenario plus the Genesis six scenario or the angels,
if they believe the Book of Enoch, the angels have
been chained up for who knows how many years for
maybe the same crime, maybe a little different because they had,
you know, sexual intercourse with these with the women. But
either way, we're talking about genetic tampering to a point

(36:18):
to where that it is very possible that God's wrath
will come on us for those things, because he is
you know, this is one of the things he talked about,
like they were sinning against man and beast. They were
doing all these different things. And so I don't necessarily
agree with that point of view. I don't when I
say don't necessarily, I don't agree with that point of view,

(36:38):
but I do understand it because if people believe that
that's not what happened, it's easy to jump to that conclusion.
If I didn't believe God cared, if we genetically tampered
with things, and there was never any kind of punishment
for that going on, I would be the same way.
Why not, because hey, I'd like to have wings too
and fly across you know, the sky, or I'd like
to be able to jump twenty feet in the air.

(36:58):
You know, I love that. That'd be awesome. But if
God doesn't want me to do that, we don't want
to do it. And to answer your question about or
your thought about why there's so many of these higher
ups that are talking about Jesus and the anti Christ,
I think it's because eventually you come to the conclusion

(37:20):
the Bible's real no matter what, Like, if you read
enough books and you study enough, there's no doubt in
anyone's mind that the Bible's real. The highest iq person
in the world believes and knows that the Bible's real.
The smartest person in the world believes the Bibles are real.
AI believe the Bible's real. It is it's the only
book like it. I mean, people can argue and you know,

(37:41):
oh me, it says this here and no, no, you know,
I believe you know, they just want to argue about
every little inch of it. But the fact is it's
the true book. So I think that they may not
have the Spirit of God, so it's hard for them
to understand what the book actually means, but they know
there's something to it. You know. It's like if you
know there's something to an object and you know that

(38:02):
it's real and the true, and you're going to try
to cling to it. And maybe that's what's happening here.
But I think that without the Spirit of God and
without the Holy Spirit guiding us into the truth of it,
it's really going to be hard to get the most
potent meanings out of it, which don't have anything to
do with things you can observe, these things that you
can only know by the Holy Spirit impartying that wisdom

(38:25):
to you. You can read it and it makes sense
once you have that impartation. But until you have that
impartation and that desire to even really obey, then I mean,
it's not going to matter what it says anyway.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
So yeah, and I think you know that's why God
calls us to really study his word, get in it,
understand it, wrap context around everything. And it's funny because
I do think you asked me earlier, you know, like,
what do you think AI's gold is all this? And
I think at the end of the day. It wants
to create a digital ID system and it wants to

(39:00):
and we could see in Revelation thirteen that the Mark
of the Beast, right, which it's kind of like this
brand they the corporations today talk about putting technology in
the body. And what's funny is is that quantum dot
technology can also pick up biomarkers as far as you know,

(39:22):
brain waves, heart rates, DNA everything like this nanotechnology is
it ranges from two to ten nanometers and the average
cell is around ten thousand to thirty thousand nanometers, so
we're talking about like really small semiconductors that you know.
It has a lot of technology to it has a
lot of abilities, and it's almost like I think of

(39:46):
the Mark of the Beast as a way for Satan's
for Satan to be omniscipant in a physical world right,
because he can't do that in the spiritual world. And
we know that he's the prince of the power of the
year here he'll take this place as his kingdom one day,
but who knows when that's gonna be. I find it

(40:07):
find it fascinating. I wanted to get your thoughts with
like the digital ID system.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Man I what you said there is exactly the way
I feel about it, because in order for him to
sit in the temple, which Jesus proclaimed, I'm gonna tear
that temple down, I'm gonna rebuild it in three days.
What was he talking about. He was talking about the
body and he's all And there was also scriptures that
says that we are the temple of the Holy Ghost.

(40:33):
So for him to be able to call himself God
and sit in the temple the only way that well,
obviously if they build another temple, there might be that possibility.
But if we believe what Jesus said, and we believe
what Paul said and other apostles may have said about this,
then we have to believe that it's very possible that

(40:53):
he wants inside of us, so he knows everything. Like
you said, he wants to know everything. He always has
and he's always been an accuser of the Brethren. And
so it's no mistake that the intelligence organizations are run
on almost blackmail. They're almost all of them run on blackmail.
And they also are using Pallunteer and all these other

(41:15):
organizations to do this because ultimately the first intelligence officer
was Satan himself. This is what he did. He gathered information.
He came and presented himself before the sons of God
in the book of Job and before the Lord and said,
I've gone to and fro in the earth. All of
these people they just fold, you know, they fold, no

(41:35):
big deal. Fold. And then God says, have you considered Job?
And he allows him to go and test Job. But
that's what he does, that's what he did. He went
and he roamed. And there's no way to know what
everybody in the world's doing unless you're God. But if
you can sit in the temple and then you can
call yourself God, and it doesn't mean you are God,
but you can call yourself that I guess, And that's

(41:56):
what he's looking for because in that aspect, he kind
of is the god of this world.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
In that way, it's crazy, man. And let's say AI
is integrated with the body in a way of in
a way how we see cell phones today, but it's
just reverse. And what I mean is is, you know,
we ask Siri, like Siri is outside of our body,
but we ask Siri what to do. We have control
over it, we have dominion over it, we have the agency,

(42:25):
and that if Siri the cell phone, which one of
the CEOs from Nokia had mentioned it back in twenty
twenty one that the cell phones by twenty thirty would
be in our bodies. So let's just keep that in mind. So,
if the cell phone technology is in my body, do
I now have agency over Siri or does Siri have
agency over me? And thinking about that, we're talking about

(42:46):
Satan being o missipant, right, and that he wants to
be all knowing, well, what is Satan? Satan's a lawyer,
He's a prosecutor. He wants you to do let me
rephrase that. He knows the law right. So he's got
this moral complex to him. At the end of the day, right,

(43:07):
we know that he's still bad, but he still has
this moral complex to him. I think he just opposes
Jesus Christ and he can still come in with morals
to seduce people. If you understand where I'm getting at.
And he wants this god complex, and let's say the
cell phones are in our body, who now are we
worshiping this? If Siri is in my head and is

(43:28):
monitoring my body activity data, it's making me money, it's
mining me cryptocurrency because I'm complying. AI is now your
God in your consciousness, very similar to the way we
hold God in our consciousness. We hold ourselves accountable for
our actions, right, and so I see something similar. There's

(43:49):
some sort of connections there.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, there's already cults forming and religions forming around AI.
And so I think that if you do, if you
did have somebody inside of you that was constant telling
you the right thing to do, the right money, to
make the right moves, to make the right things to say,
and it was just when when when win win, it'd
be hard to abandon that. For what you know, most

(44:12):
of us we believe in God, but we don't even
hear from God like that, you know, I don't think
Possile Paul heard from God like that. To where you've
got something constantly helping you with every task and with
every goal that you that you do, I mean, it's
people are gonna worship. They're gonna love it. They're gonna
absolutely love it because there you know, there's been such
a push in the in the mainstream church. This is

(44:33):
something that kind of makes me nervous. And I'm not
gonna argue with people about whether they believe.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
It or not.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
It doesn't really matter because ultimately we still need to
be open minded to think, Okay, well, maybe this is
what's gonna happen. But we've been programmed to believe that
we're gonna be raptured out of here and left behind movies,
dispensationalist theology that you know, didn't come around till eighteen hundreds.

(44:58):
We're been programmed to believe that that's going to happen.
And so if it happens, I've always said this, I'm
so thankful with career. That'd be awesome. I'd love to
get raptured out of here. But I don't think that's
what the Bible is actually saying about the time that
we're in. I really don't. I think that this is
a desire that people have, and yes, there is going

(45:18):
to be something similar to this, but it's not going
to be before the stuff breaks out that we think
is going to break out. And a lot of Christians
have been barely skating by in their faith anyway. And
when I say that, I mean they're very lukewarm and
they aren't willing to lose anything for God. People will

(45:39):
fold for oh man, we can't get bred this week
we were not going to be able to drive, we
won't be able to go to a club, we won't
be able to go to a concert, a movie. We'd
had to do this, oh man, Like you know, forget
about what God wants, Let's do this. And they fold
easily under pressure, They fold to peer pressure, they fold
to all these things. And you know, we're supposed to
believe that they're going to stay strong when what they

(46:03):
believed their whole life, the rapture doesn't happen when they
think it's going to happen. That's what scares me the
most about people who are die hard one way or
another when it comes concerning prophecies. We need to be
open and willing to the idea that we will be
here through this. We need to be open to that.
And I know that there's a lot of people that
will disagree with me, And like I said, I'm not

(46:24):
dogmatic about it, and I'm definitely not here to argue
with people about it. But I would say that if
you can't be willing to accept the possibility that things
might not go exactly the way you had planned, then
you might fall. You might fall once the things don't
happen or the Bible's not real. But look, this AI
is helping me get rich. Well, look this AI just

(46:44):
helped me find my daughter that went missing or got trafficked.
Oh look, let's say I just shut down a narcotics
ring down the road. Oh look, the AI just told
me how I can get rich with the stock here. Boom,
I got rich. I'm a building, right.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I mean, what if it's something too where you take
this thing and you'll never get disease? Right? I mean,
what do we see with stargate and what's the Larry
Ellison with what what what AI company is? Or oracle? Right,
So they're talking about medicine and AI right coming together.
And then they're also talking about when AI gets to

(47:20):
a quantum capacity where it can function at a quantum level,
who knows what what AI can figure out medically, and
if it has this fountain of Youth algorithm, right, And
and that's another thing that is going to test people
in their faith. You know, Christ calls us it says,

(47:41):
you know, to die is gain, right, And well, I
think I think Paul said that. But anyways, you know,
we know that death is a part of the process
we have to go through. But if people are tempted
with everlasting life here, which I think it would be
something that the Antichrist does because he copied writes. He

(48:03):
inverts things that God hasn't and that's his nature in
a way. Yeah, it's all interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Revelation ninety six, you know, says that people will want
for death and not find it, and that that really
fits along this line here. And eventually, you know, the
algorithm is going to if the goal of AI is
to do what we're saying or possibly do, eventually people
like me and you will be sifted out of the algorithm,

(48:31):
and so most people won't even know that there's anything
wrong with it, and the churches will be on board.
They'll say, look, this is awesome, we're getting you know,
we'll never have to worry about aging, we'll never and
that people are gonna jump on it. Whatever pastor says,
you know, let's do it. But the same people that
they really think they're they're spiritual leaders will probably be
the ones that line them up for the mark, and

(48:52):
they'll line them up for the slaughter. Unfortunately, because they're
already trying to get rid of any dissonance, any kind
of things that don't go their way they're already you know,
people like me like they like, I don't know. I've
been doing this for a long time, but I've been
demonetized for a long time, and I can't sometimes, Like
even for the Spiracy con coming up, this conference that

(49:14):
we have twenty twenty five, it took me a long
time to find a bank that would even do it
for me. You know, they a company like a hostkater
for instance, held my data, injected a code into my system,
wouldn't give me my data, wouldn't give me my domain.
And all of these different things have happened to me.
And I'm not even big. I'm not even anything, you know,

(49:35):
I like a lot of people would say I am.
It's relative, but there's people out there way bigger than me.
They're out there doing it. But that's kind of stuff
that I have to deal with trying to do what
I do on a pretty regular basis. I'm always having
to find a company that's not trying to do that.
And it's crazy, it sucks, but it's it is the
way it is. So imagine a fully controlled system. People

(49:57):
like me, Man, They're gonna either try to pay me off,
get me out here, or they're going to try to
buy my likeness and use it as a I or
they're just going to try to get rid of me.
You know, there's it's all there is to it. I've
already been offered to buy my likeness to use for AI.
You know, I don't know if you've been offered that
for your channel yet, but like that, I'm not doing that.
So if you ever see it, put us put it

(50:19):
this way, I'll never give up my my identity to
be used for AI. But that doesn't mean that they
can't do that. And there's nothing, there's nothing we'll be
able to do about it. So there will come a
time when people will be hungry for the word of God.
They'll be hungry for somebody that's going to tell them something,
this truth, but they're not going to be able to
find it. It won't it will be sifted out like
the week It'll be gone.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Right right man. Well, I'm really glad that you know
we have events like Spiracy Coon and and hopefully you know,
I believe those things will stay afloat until we get
to a system like you're talking about where I mean, man, dude,
if if you're not complying and you can't you can't
get the the luxury of using the other things that

(51:04):
the world uses because you don't comply. It's gonna be
a huge struggle. And I think that's why they put
things in movies like there's a bad team, and then
there's like a good team. There's the Empire, and then
there's the resistance. It's really thrown in our faces a lot. Man.
So let's let's we got about at nine ten minutes left, man,

(51:24):
So let's talk a little bit about spiracy. Con right,
So how did you how did this come to be?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
And I've been really planning this for a little while.
I in twenty twenty, we did some conferences. Actually we
were doing conferences all before that actually for a while.
And in twenty twenty we had two conferences completely booked out,
sold out, and then the whole shutdowns happened, so we

(51:53):
had to refund all of those people back and we'd
already bought stuff for the conference. It was it was
a mess, let's put it that way. And so for
five years, I'm like, I'm not going to do anymore.
I'm not going to do anymore. I'm not going to
do anymore. But what I noticed that really just when
I say it irritated me. I mean, that's a kind
of an understatement. But I realize that there's a racket

(52:16):
in these things, and that there are people gatekeeping the
narrative of God and Christ will not be allowed at
these conferences and these secular like Bigfoot conferences, paranormal conferences.
I'm not going to be going to that thing. I've
had several people request it and then they look over
this content and they're like, no, we are board has

(52:37):
decided not to have you at these events. And yes,
I'm controversial with some of the stuff I say. I'm
not going to deny that. But at the same time,
I'm no more controversial than some idiot that claims to
be having tea with Bigfoot every day. I'm no more
controversial than that. I'm no more controversial than some guy
that is calling UFOs to his house. How is what

(52:58):
I'm saying more controver virsil. It's because it's the spirit
of the world. So I wanted to challenge that. And
I love challenging things that I probably shouldn't challenge. I've
gone up against many giants in my life, and it's
always comes with a lot of pain, but it also
comes with progress in a way. But I decided I
want to start a conference that the majority of the

(53:19):
stuff there is actually the narrative that I'd like to
see play out, and I'm going to try to bridge
that gap and be better than the rest of them.
And so that's my goal, man, I mean I had.
Whether I'll succeed or not remains to be seen because
we don't even know what's going to happen. A month
from now, we may be locked down again. But my

(53:41):
goal is that, and it's always my goal is to
challenge the system. I think that some of us were
born with a innate ability to be able to challenge
the matrix, and or you can either be part of
the matrix or challenge it. When you have the ability
to influence and understand the minds of men in a

(54:04):
way that you can understand them and be compassionate for men,
but at the same time understand their weaknesses and understand
their downfalls in a way that you can bring light
to them. That's what I try to do. The other
side does the opposite. They will bring darkness to mankind
and they try to keep them from understanding things, and

(54:25):
they use the same methods, but those of us that
are doing it in the right way and in the
way that I consider right, the way that I feel
like God would want us to do it, we're very
challenged in that way. And what I mean what I
mean by that is not challenged in skill or in knowledge,
but challenged in brotherhood. There's a big brotherhood out there,

(54:48):
and we're not a part of that brotherhood. And that
brotherhood sticks to itself, they pull together, they strengthen one another,
and so I would love to see that in the
Christian realm. It's so hard because there's so many divisions
over every single little thing. It doesn't matter what it is.
You can divide over somebody playing drums in church. You
can divide over you know, somebody, what day they decide

(55:10):
they want to go to church. You can divide over
all these things. It just doesn't matter you name it.
There's a division. And I've been a part of that
in my life to some extent, and I really don't
like that I've been a part of it. I realize
now that there's too much going on for that to
be possible. There needs to be people that bear good
fruit and love one another, and that really are dedicated

(55:31):
and serious about opposing the spirit of the world because
we have as greater inside. And so that's one of
the reasons Spiracy kind came about. I've invited a lot
of guests that have never been on any other conference before,
such as Richie from Boston, somebody that has been around
for a very very long time, a very strong presenter,

(55:52):
has come with a lot of things and been right.
He's been removed from YouTube, back on YouTube, He's had
a lot of things, but he's never been included in
the narrative. And so I'm thinking, you know what, I'm
going to include him in the narrative. All of the
people that we have at our conference are not actors.
They're all real presenters. They're not you know, been on
some TV show on on on the TV. They're not
hiding information. And you'll have that at a lot of

(56:15):
these conferences. You'll have people that hide information on purpose.
They're at every single one of those. We did a
broadcast with the Travis Carpenter's or Scott Carpenter's son, which
Scott Carpenter is kind of a legendary bigfoot hunter. Travis's son,
which is also going to be at the conference and
the interview like caught some waves on our channel and
on his channel and other channels. They kept getting shared

(56:36):
out in the Bigfoot community. And as soon as we
did that, I'm not gonna mention his name because I
don't roll like that. I don't. I think God will
have vengeance and all the things, and and you know,
he's playing his role and playing my role. But he
made three videos that basically try to contradict everything that
was said in that interview because he realized that that
interview was kind of a folkrum point for the whole

(56:58):
Bigfoot movement because once they realized that it could be
spiritual rather than physical, it changes the way people interact
with these creatures. And I believe that they are spiritual.
I don't believe that they're fully physical. I think there
might be both, maybe or whatever. But I mean, we
never found any bodies. If there was a body presented
and I saw it but my own eyes or he
saw all that, then yeah, yeah that's different. But man,

(57:20):
I mean I've been on the woods a lot. I
live in Indiana, you know, right near who's your National Forest,
And I've heard tales and I'm not saying that there
hasn't been hinky weird situations there has. I've been out
in the woods before when everything went completely dark and
completely quiet. I'm talking about not a sound to be heard,
and it was the most weird feeling that I've ever

(57:42):
felt my life out here on My whole body stood
up and I was just like shocked and almost frozen
in fear. And then I called out to God and
it like, all of a sudden, the birds were chirping again,
the cicadas were, you know, making their noises, and it
was so I know that there's something out there. I
absolutely have no doubt in my mind that that's the case.
But if you can't even put out a narrative that

(58:06):
makes sense, what does that tell you? It is controlled?
And so that's the whole point. We don't want to
be too controlled. I think the truth can stand out
even amidst a ton of different weird crap that maybe lies.
The truth has an ability of just being like, you
know what, that makes sense because it's the truth. And
so just having that ability for that to be presented.
I know there are Christian conferences that only do Christian speakers,

(58:28):
or they only do stuff like that, but I wanted
to bring some dynamic Christian speakers to the mix that
aren't afraid to speak the truth even if it pisses
people off, and they aren't afraid to and they're good
researchers at that. I mean, we have like people like
Aaron Judkins, archaeologists, a good friend of mine. I've hung
out with him several times. He's taken me to the
Plexi River several times. I can't wait to have him.

(58:49):
A great researcher and has been to many, many, many
sites and go Beckley Tepe all of these different things.
And so I'm excited about that. We have people that
are you know, claim to be Elon Musk's nanny. You
know this lady that claim Rosemary. She's coming.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
You know, I'm actually trying to get an interview with
her and.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I can hook you up with her with her contact them.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Post Awesome, Awesome, that'll be great. And yeah, there is
going to be a bunch of people there, man, people
that I've worked with, that I see in the community.
It's going to be a really awesome, awesome event, man.
Because when you get all those people from different they're
their host hosts of different podcasts. They've talked to many
different people. I mean, you have this, you have this,

(59:35):
you know, you have all these avenues of people from
different areas of the supernatural realm, and everyone knows a
little about a lot. So it's like Spike's conversation. You know.
I went to my first event this year and it
was a great time because, man, I haven't talked with
so many people like minded in a very long time.
You know. I usually talk to a teleprompter and in

(59:56):
front of a microphone. That's pretty much it. And my wife,
who shout out to her, shout out to all the wives.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Actually yeah with us, and they're they're wonderful, wonderful for
doing so for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, absolutely, man, absolutely, well, brother, I appreciate you for
giving it, giving me your time tonight and uh, you know,
having fruitful conversations. Some areas it got dark, but it
seemed like God's light was shining on you throughout the episode.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Man, I don't know what's that. I don't It's so weird.
I've every time when I go to one of these
automated you know, the video where I can't adjust it,
it just blows blows me out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I don't get it, but gotcha gotcha. It is well man,
I appreciate you for coming on again and so real quick.
For the audience, where can they find all your content
and where can they support you the most?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I would say that support us the most by going
over to our YouTube channel and just sharing out the videos,
hit the like button, and if you after you look,
if you watch the content and you say, man, this
is a you to me, this is something that I
really needed in my life or has helped me. Then
consider financial if you want to. And it costs money
to do these things and to continually research and do

(01:01:11):
all that. But obviously that's not our main goal. But
if it, if it does, do that, you know, I
think there's blessings in supporting the things of the of
God rather than supporting other things. So I would say,
you know, if only if you find any value on
what we're doing, then support us that way. But until then,
go check out our videos and just see what you
think for yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Awesome man. You know, I'm looking forward to getting over
there and meeting you in person, right especially con Yeah,
and justin Doc Brown Prometheus Lens podcast shout out to him.
You know, I'll be linking up with him soon about
all that, and so who's the other gentleman that has
you've made plenty of content with is FTFC fo JC

(01:01:52):
sorry Ericroh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Yeah, David. I've known David since twenty sixteen. I found
him when I was doing a documentary about a weird
case in Evans, Indiana where kids were getting taken out
of their school and satanically. I'm not going to say it,
but they were having horrible things happened to them, and
it was an old case. I found it on a

(01:02:15):
current affair and so I'm like, man, I wonder if
these people were so live, and David Kerko was one
of the people that was, you know, rapidly fighting against
it and making big speeches about it there locally, you know.
And so I found him and that's how I found him.
And he's a wealth of information. He's got a photographic memory,
so he's read, you know, thousands of books and can

(01:02:35):
remember things from almost all of those things. So I'm enjoying,
really enjoying doing shows with him in that aspect. And he's,
you know, got a lot going on in his life,
so I mean, I'm blessed that he spends the little
time that he has to do a show with me
every week. It's really cool, man. I'm really just thankful
for that, and I enjoy it. We don't always see
eye to eye on everything, but it really hasn't mattered

(01:02:57):
that much because we know we're both in it for
the right reason. Is in the same reason, so.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Right on, right on. I'm looking forward to meeting him too.
I mean, you guys do make awesome content together, and
I like the style. I like the little I like
the little Mike earpiece. You know, it's kind of like, hey,
we're you guys are serious, but you know it's it's relaxed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I'll tell you why we have the earpiece though, because
mainly it's because David. We have Mike's just like this.
But David, he's always always looking like this and talking
and you know, you can't keep audio like that, so
we had to run. Okay, he is a runner. He's
a runner. He's out there. He's got like fifty books
surrounding him trying to dig through it all, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
So yeah, that makes it a little harder, but that's awesome,
all right, brother. Well, before we go, I'm going to
pray it out for us, and then we'll conclude the show.
All right, Heavenly Father, we thank you for today. Thank
you for bringing us together and the gift of companionship
and the gift of just for us to be able
to speak your word and to talk about the things
that need to be revealed to the like God. To

(01:03:59):
pray for strength, I pray for perseverance, and I pray
for protection from all things in the world. And thank
you for your sacrifice. And we love you in Jesus name. Amen, Amen, Amen,
all right, brother, thank you again. Folks. Appreciate you for
tuning in. If you stayed with us this long, that's
super deeply appreciated. And if you want to support our show,

(01:04:21):
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it with your friends, drop a comment down below by
the things we got into. If you agree, you disagree,
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While you're there, we appreciate a review and five stars.
Other than that, everybody, take care, be safe, love you,

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See you next time.

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