#70. Androgynous Entities| Ancient Goddess Worship| The Cosmic War| Serpent Seed Theory w/ Tim Constantine| Six Sensory Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
What's up every morning? Welcome back to the Biblical hit Man.
Oh my goodness, folks, we've got an appearance from an
outside land. Folks.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Taylor is back on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Ladies and gentlemen, Oh he's given your host. Unfortunately, Jesse's
not here with us tonight, joining us yet again reoccurring
guest a friend, Tim Constantine, host of sixth Censory Podcasts.
It's always an opportunity, a great blessing to have him
on the show. He's gonna pretty much take us. He's

(00:48):
gonna continue us on from the last show that we
did with him, and he just kept texting me and
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(01:08):
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But Tim Brother, thanks for coming on. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah, thanks again for having me. Man, And like, yeah,
we we were talking about this a little bit, but
I don't want to give people the wrong impression. This
was not like some very big, long planned out thing.
I think we've been talking about this for like a
couple of days since Friday. Yes, so I don't want
to give people the wrong appressents like, I don't have
this like grandiose presentation. I don't think we'll just see

(01:46):
what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
But right, right, right, I was on the treadmill. I
was on the treadmill at work, and I was like
walking my four miles, I'm sweating, and I just a
thought popped in my head and reminded me of something
that you said. I gave you a call. We ended
up talking for thirty minutes. I was like, let's get
you on the show. You're like, all right, let's do it,
and then boom here we are. Man.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I think you know, honestly, that's
a great place to start. I think you said something
to me about the Zohar zohar Man.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, the Zohart We were getting into the idea that
that's the first pretty much translation, uh, of the of
the Cabbalism, right, and the Coblistic view of things. It
gets into the misticism ideas of of that nature. But
it also kind of touched on the fact of what
the capabilities these you know, angels may have, and that

(02:33):
what they may be able to do here in the
physical realm. And it kind of initiated or it mentioned
something as far as that they can take appearance as
male and female. And it made me think of what
you were talking about, right, You were getting into Ishtar,
you were getting into you know, this feminine goddess spirit
that was influencing people, right that were you know, developing

(02:56):
these big unions, right or these big nations. Right, one
was America, the other one was Great Britain. And you
know you had talked about John Dee, you talked about
George Washington, that they were having this you know, contact
with this feminine goddess. But but real quick, before we
before we get into all this, real quick, I forgot
to let you plug all your information. So if you

(03:16):
wouldn't mind just plug all your information for the listeners
and then we'll dive right into this.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah yeah, and I'll keep it quick so we can
follow this thread.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I'm Tim Constantine. My show is six Sensory podcast spell
Out six sixth Censory. It's on Spotify, YouTube, Apple, Patreon, Instagram,
and uh yeah, come check the show out. We're going
to be dropping a show soon with with Steven here.
I'm really looking forward to that drop. And uh yeah,

(03:46):
but what you said man about the Zohar uh and
thank you for letting me plug my stuff there. But
you know what, maybe I should give a disclaimer here
because I might now that I'm thinking more about what
I am going to say, and and an answer in
answer to what you're saying, disclaimer probably needs to be

(04:08):
said here. I might I might go some places today
that no Christian has dared go before. Okay, so everybody
just hang.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
On going outside the sandbox, are you Yeah, we're going
outside into the forest journey.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I don't know, maybe somebody out there has has blazed
this trail before it and I'm just don't aware, but.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I'm sure someone just literally gripped the bottom of their
chair and they just leak forward about four inches. Sure,
it's super zoned.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Right now, we're gonna go there. And yeah, you said,
some of these angels in the Zohar have the ability
to choose what form they take, male or female, right,
And we talked about that on the phone. I'm like, oh,
I've got something that comes to mind right now in
the Bible, and I'm like, let's just save it. I'm like,

(05:00):
I'll just walk you through it on a show one day.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Right.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
So here it is. It's Proverbs, right, So let's go
to Proverbs. I've got my Bible here. So in Proverbs,
what we see, in my opinion, and I'm gonna break
all this down, is we see an example of a
female celestial figure or just a female figure in general.
Before Eve, some circles would call her Sophia, which has

(05:25):
been used as another name for wisdom. And in this
passage and in this book of the Bible, she's called Wisdom. Okay,
it seems to be another name for a female aspect
of God. That's what it seems to be, right. So,
and it's all through Proverbs. Like Proverbs one verse twenty,

(05:47):
Wisdom cries out in the street in the squares. She
raises her voice, and what we see here is Solomon
has personified wisdom as as a woman and as a lady, right,
and she takes on this personality, and she says she's
going to laugh at people's calamity later in here, like

(06:10):
she's like she's a real entity.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
She says she's gonna laugh at people when they realize
in a panic or in a frenzy that they need
wisdom in their life. But it's too late. So she
has this like textual life of her own. And then
if this just keeps getting this snowballs.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
So if you go to Proverbs four five through nine,
she's shown as a like an honorable female figure. Here
it says, starting with the verse five, it says, get wisdom,
get insight, and do not forget nor turn away from
the words of my mouth. Do not forsake her, and
she will keep you. Love her and she will guard you.

(06:50):
The beginning of wisdom is this. Get wisdom, and whatever
else you get, get insight. Prize her highly, and she
will exalt you. She will honor you. If you embrace her.
She will play on your head a fair garland. She
will bestow on your head a beautiful crown. So, like
I said, I just see it snowballing from here, because

(07:12):
if he's jumped now to chapter eight, it gets really deep.
And this is why I don't think, because I've heard
this growing up, you know, growing up in church and
all that. The the overall notion that people seem to
have was that the first female anything was eve full stop. This,

(07:42):
I think further a wrench in that. This is this
is Proverbs eight, Chapter on Proverbs eight, verse twenty two.
Excuse me, so the Lord this this, this chapter is
entitled Wisdom's part in Creation. The Lord created me at
the beginning of his work, the first of his acts
of long ago, ages ago. I was set up at

(08:05):
the first, before the beginning of the earth, when there
were no depths. I was brought forth, then, excuse me,
when there were no springs abounding with water, before the
mountains had been shaped, before the hills. I was brought
forth when he had not yet made earth and fields,
or the world's first bits of soil. When he established

(08:26):
the heavens. I was there when he drew a circle
on the face of the deep. I was there when
he made the firm, when he made firm the skies above,
when he established the fountains of the deep, when he
assigned to the sea its limit so that the waters
might not transgress his command. When he marked out the
foundations of the earth. Then I was beside him like

(08:50):
a master worker, and I was his daily delight, rejoicing
before him, always rejoicing in his inhabited world, and delighting
in the human race. So what I gather from that
is that there's this entity who was there for the
creation of mankind and the earth and all the other

(09:13):
things I just mentioned standing beside the Lord as was
it say, they're a master worker? So I would wager
that Wisdom is this female aspect of God that's been
around for a very long time and seems to have

(09:34):
a life of her own. And do you kind of
is like a goddess figure. And I know, people go, oh, whoa, whoa,
what did he just say? I'm not being pagan here.
I'm just using the term goddess because she's female, right,
So that's but what were you going to say, Taylor, Do.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
You think that that could be one of the almost
like counsel of God members? You know what I'm saying
that sits among God because that's what I'm starting to
think I do.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Okay, I think that, and yeah, makes sense if you
go real deep into this. So wisdom and Hebrew is Chokema.
And I looked in some of the Jewish texts and
I've got these notes here about this. This is this
is what the Jewish mystics and non mystics believes. In
some occasions, Chokema is described as the primordial, ancient point

(10:27):
of divine wisdom, which shines from the will of God.
This point remains incomprehensible until differentiated and given form in Benha.
But Nah, that's that's how you said that, Bannah. The Zohar.
Going back to the Zohar emphasizes Chokma's role in the

(10:48):
emanation process and its association with the sense of sight
as well as inner spiritual sense of taste that precedes
and arouses sight. So there's an interplay between Chokema and Nah,
and it's crucial for understanding how wisdom becomes wisdom becomes
concrete understanding it. And so what we're seeing here, I

(11:09):
know that's that's like deep deep stuff. But theologically, I
know that's got some depth to it. But what we're
seeing here is that chokmah is is related to the
Nah and a tree of life and has to do
with all things associated with the tree of life. So
this theologically, this goes deep, right.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, Like this even kind of gets into what I
may illustrates in my mind like uh, you know Mount
Olympus or something right or or this idea again I
might have butchered that. But it's like we're Zeus and
the other gods kind of sit and it's like this council,
you know, and there they hate Chronos, right, Chronos hates them.

(11:52):
It's like this, you know, it's like there's there's this
war between the council and the Creator, and it's like, okay,
is this getting into what we see maybe when it's
talking about, uh, you know, let us make man in
our image? Is this the plurality of of the of

(12:13):
this council that possibly had had maybe a position in creation.
I mean, I'm not I'm not dogmatic on it. I
straddle the idea because I also straddle the idea of
the trinity and that this means the trinity and that
this is God right that holds you know, this domain
over this over over this idea. But I also am

(12:36):
kind of you know, understanding both ideas if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, like divine counsel, right, yeah, and I'm looking for that.
It's in Deuteronomy and it's thirty thirty eight.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Maybe thirty eight. It could be wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
He also says, like with great wisdom because comes much
sorrow as well too. So and if they're referring to
wisdom as like a she, it is kind of interesting
to put that take on it. Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I mean this is this is female through and through,
so I, you know, I and I'll get this like
this keeps going man like. Honestly, we're gonna get a
little bit deeper with this too, because where this gets
really interesting is I've been researching this, you know, I
researched like the Hidden History of North America and all

(13:26):
that stuff, right, so I've been looking at this region
concerning the Saint Lawrence River. It's it's the river that
comes down through Canada and and goes straight into the
Great Lakes. And the Greeks knew about it as far
back as Plutarch and and the Greek their Greeks and
their secret society held that information for a long time

(13:48):
and and at some point turned it over to the
Templars so I do think that the Templars came over
here early on. And we're in this area of the
Great Lakes and the Saint Lawrence River and some of
the riger rivers that branch off of it that go
down into New York State. And that's where this gets
interesting because I'm tracking down this story. I'm like researching

(14:10):
this stuff to do with these templars having a temple
over here in New York State up on top of
a mountain. Basically, they were here. They were here well
before Columbus, and they were storing knowledge over here. They
were creating vaults over here, temples and just other little

(14:31):
places of refuge for knowledge, right. And one of the
things they had I've come to find are scrolls, ancient scrolls,
and there's a low and behold, I found this story.
The Templars, some of the modern day templars right now
alive today have come out and said that they have

(14:55):
remnants of or parts of this lost book of the Bible.
It's called the Book of the Lords, the Book of
the Wars of the Lord. Like Scott Walter is a
part of this. He's given like PowerPoint presentations online saying
they've recovered these ancient scrolls and that it's this book, right.

(15:17):
And what's interesting is this book is mentioned in numbers
twenty one, chapter thirteen through numbers twenty one, thirteen through fourteen.
Excuse me, other it's mentioned in the Bible, right, the
Book of the Wars of the Lord. Otherwise it's lost.
So what's interesting is they've got these these passages that

(15:42):
they've translated, and I got a transcript of it, and
I'm gonna read this and you're gonna see how this
ties in with this episode here. So in one of
these recent power points, this is some of the texts
that they revealed. It says, the Goddess Willis commanded us,
and we obeyed, but we set foot not in Edom.

(16:06):
So this is being told by from the perspective of
the Danites. It says the goddess Wisdom here is telling
them what to do because they're about to go into battle.
And it says, then a cloud descended from heaven, and
out from the cloud spoke these are the people of Lord,
and I am their goddess. You will depart this place

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or be destroyed, for I do battle this day for
the sons of dan. The leader of the Edomites sent
forth his chariots into the shallow of the river. Then
did a silver beast descend from the cloud, in the
likeness of a great bird, and spat bolts of lightning
from its wings into the water. And the horses of

(16:50):
the Edomites chariots died, and the men of the chariots
shook as with a palsy, and fell into the waters
and drowned. Then a great flame it from the mouth
of the beast, and the host of the Edomites were consumed.
This is wild, Yeah, this is wild. So if this

(17:12):
is real, this is a battle presided over by the
goddess Wisdom as if she is a general right, she's
representing God on this battlefield according to this text. And
I want to make this clear, I'm not making a

(17:34):
definitive statement that this is scripture, Okay. I just think
this is cool, right. I think it's it's something to
be thought about, something to look more into. Right, it
might hold some it might hold some extra biblical info.
That's all I'm saying. And other than that, I'm saying,
this is very interesting. So I want to get more.

(17:57):
I want to get my hands more on this t XT,
this lost book, and I want to read more of
it and see if any of it lines up with
parts of scripture and all that, and see if we
can get get something out of this. Right. But if
this is true, then there's there might be more to
this wisdom figure, right.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Right? Right? Do you think this wisdom figure like plays
a part in the in the title of like Satan?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I think no. I think some of the other goddesses do.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
This seems because Satan meaning you know adversary, right, So
it could be it could be many many different you
know things in rebellion, you know what I'm saying. But
then again it also says you know Satan and his angels.
So again I I this is why I like, I
kind of straddled the idea that maybe it is just

(18:54):
a title for one person, or it could be a
title for you know, a few that that have made
a pact with each other, like for example, why did
God put only a certain amount of angels in shield
like in darkness? Was there a pact that was made?
You know? Like, So I'm just giving you an idea

(19:15):
of like what the titles be placed over That makes
sense for sure.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
I think that the Satan thing is a group of entities.
I really do, and maybe I can get more into
that today. I think that it's it's not this Lucifer character.
That's something that was added. That's a Latin word that
was added later that means shining one. I don't think
any writers of the Bible ever wrote down the word Lucifer.

(19:43):
But that being said, there is there are some figures
out there who uh fit that role.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I'm not saying there's no Satan. I'm saying his name
is probably not Lucifer. And there's there's a host of
these entities that seem to be fulfilling that role that
we think of traditionally as Lucifer.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Well, even Lucifer right being mentioned only one time in
the King James version. At least, that's what I can
kind of refer to you, because that's that's what I've
read the most out of. But Lucifer being mentioned one
time in Isaiah. And then you look at the Hebrew
breakdown of what Lucifer means, Lucifer meeting light bearer right,
shining one. But it says hello, Hello, helll is the

(20:24):
Hebrew word that they take and they now use, you know,
they put it in through you know, the Latin term Lucifer.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, Ben Shahar is what is Helois at least from
the UH Stars?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, I'm sorry, no, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Hellel is Hebrew for shining one and Bill Shahar is
morning Star. And I think you're getting ahead of me, actually, Stephen,
because I was going to hello Ben Shakar.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, it's funny because we had this talk too with
Gary Wayne and he was he was getting into this
name and it's so funny, man, Like, you see this
name in movies. You see Helll in movies. Like I
just said that twice. But on my point I'm making
is like in two thousand and one Space Odyssey, the
ai was called how okay. When you get into the movie,

(21:20):
the most recent one that was released on Netflix, Happy
Gilmore Too, people are like, what do you mean Happy
Gilmore has hell L in it? Well, the actual person
that played who played that part, it's Ben Stiller. Ben
Stiller played the guy who used to run the Old
person Home, right, the retirement home. Well, his name tag

(21:43):
says how space L with a period? Dang. And so
what's funny too is in that movie? Because I even
paused it. I'm a huge person when it comes to
predictive programming, movies and symbolism, and so I paused it
kind of frame by frame in one scene that just
like stood out to me, and I paused it. And
it's a book that Halll wrote, right, And it's in

(22:05):
the part of the movie if you folks that you
have watched the movie, but it's where Adam Sandler is
actually reading a golf book inside the the the book
that Halll wrote, which he runs an aa uh you
know group, a meeting whatever, an alcohol abuse group or whatever.
But but the book that he wrote, you get the

(22:27):
front cover of it. You actually get to see the
front cover of it. And it's a man with one
his right hand up, his right hand or his left
hand down. You have you know, Solve and Coagula represented
right there if you want to compare that to Baphomet.
But but the man on there was a shadow figure.
You couldn't see him because I don't believe he's been

(22:48):
revealed yet. That's kind of like what that means to me.
He's also looking at the he's also looking at at
the at the east where the right start where the
morning star comes up, if that makes any sense. And
it's the sun rising and and and it's crazy when
I tell you right now the what the title of

(23:11):
that book was, Let me see if I can try
and find it here.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
So in the Morning Star is Venus, so right right,
So there's there's again we could loop in this goddess
thread because I don't think that, like I said that,
that Isaiah passage that you're talking about, I don't think
that's about Lucifer. I'll get into who I think that
is later, But because I like, I mean, I just

(23:37):
I want to set a couple more things up, But
I don't think it's Lucifer, and I think it's got
implications that could point to some goddess stuff personally.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
There go ahead with.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
These goddess So it's kind of like we have a
lot of the times in the Cole Obviously there's like
male and female references, you know, on the upwards triangle
being the male symbol and the downwards being the female,
which makes obviously the you know star of rem fam
as well. But what do you think, what is the

(24:15):
whole thing having to do with male and female?

Speaker 1 (24:18):
What?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Why do they have such a like you know, separate
thing in the occult with that?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Sorry, so hold on just just before you answer that question.
I just want to say, I have to say what
the name of this book was, because it's crazy, bro,
it's so crazy, and I'll show it to the to
the camera real quick. But this is what it looks like. Okay,
it's how L at the top and it says my
struggle against unfairness, and at the bottom left corner it

(24:45):
says a true story. So to me, it just makes
me feel.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Like, yeahty in our face.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
That that hell L actually also goes back to a
figure in the in the pre Islam air world who
is a god, possibly a god as So there you go.
It's this androgynist thing potentially, and that's what I think
you're talking about. Taylor's there's there's an androgynist thing. And
if you go back when you look at all the

(25:16):
old myths, they all contain these sort of androgenist characters.
I just think that this the further back we go.
It goes back to what we were talking about with
the Zohar before. These angels having the ability I don't
want to call them angels, these these celestial entities having
the ability to come down here and choose what gender

(25:38):
they want to be. That just seems to be it's
it's too it's too widespread of a thing in old myths.
It just seems like that was the case. Right now.
I think what we have here is like too, we
have two factions. Like with going back to the wisdom thing,
I think, you know, God's got his good guys. You
know this is good versus evil, right, that's we're in
this cosmic war God has as his hosts. And I

(26:01):
don't have an issue with God having a female angelic
figure or figures as a part of that host who
actually sometimes take to the battlefield. Right, Because if men
and women are made in the image of God, well,
there you go. There's a female aspect to God. He's
he's the creator. Women are the creators of life here.

(26:22):
So it's like they have that aspect in common, right,
and we have we we have that two men have
that too, like we we help in creating life as well,
but the females deliver it through. So if they're made
in the image of God, there you go. Right, It
just makes sense to me. I don't know why it's
so unpopular to think about it this way. I don't
know why it had to start with Eve, right, So.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
It makes me think too, right, Like when the Bible
talks about where these these the angels for example, you know,
or spirit in general, it doesn't have the ability to marriage,
or or be given in marriage, or to or or
have the ability to have sex, because there's no point
to it in the heavenly realm. But because I think

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right after that it says in heaven, right, so I
think that there's an eternity, there's no there's no need
for multiplying. But here in this realm, there's a need
for multiplying, you know. And women came from man if
that you know what I'm saying, Well, yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Or did she right? Women was the women was the idea?
Was the feminine idea before Eve? Already a thing that
it arise in the I haven't seen anything the Bible,
in the Bible that tells me that there can't be
a female figure before Eve, right, And in fact, I

(27:52):
think that it tells us the opposite thing. And I
think so so like I'm gonna jump around here, I'm
you know, I think the wisdom is the good one.
I think some of these others of the Lilith would
be a bad way.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I was just gonna say that in the eenochs that
was the bad version.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Of she's And you know she's not the only one.
There's a couple goddesses mentioned throughout the Bible. Like, this
is a real thing people need to come to terms with.
It's just been forgotten about. It's been like I don't know,
it's been whitewashed from our churches. But like, if you
look at Isaiah chapter thirty four, I see another interesting
narrative here to do with God and battles and goddesses

(28:31):
being a part of these battles here on battles here
on earth. Right, Like, Isaiah thirty four is one of
the most mysterious passages and one of the most fascinating
passages in the Bible. And it's one of my favorites
because it's a passage of dealing with God having a
war with the Edomites again, right, and except it doesn't

(28:52):
say anything about the Israelites being there and fighting. This
seems like God himself was fighting with the Edomites. And
you have this goddess named Lilithan here too. So some
of this says, for God has a sacrifice in Basra,
a great slaughter in the land of edom, wild auction,

(29:15):
Oxen shall fall with them and young steers with the
mighty bulls. Their lands shall be soaked with blood and
the soil made rich with fat. And what this does
is is parallels with Isaiah sixty three as well, where
it says the same thing. It says that their life force,
the blood, was soaked into the land, and it says

(29:38):
for the Lord has a day of vengeance, a year
of vindication by Zion's cause. So he's fighting for Zion, right,
And the streams of Edom shall be turned to pitch,
and her soil into sulfur. Her lands shall become burning pitch.
And you can go and look at this place today.
It still exists where Basra was the capital of Edom.

(29:59):
It's still there, still in ruins today, and there was
just you know, there was just like war, right. But
it's like if we look at if we were to
reference what's potentially in this book of the Wars of
the Lord, it's giving us a picture of how God
does battle, right. And you've got what is say, a

(30:21):
silver beast that shot out lightning bolts, and it sounds
like there might be some spacecraft involved here, right, like
this get real star wars like real quick? Yeah, And
what happens here. Is Lilith is in the midst of
this somehow, because it says it's talking about how after
the battle, God has cursed the land of Basra to

(30:43):
remain a ruin, right, and it says they shall name
it no kingdom there, and its princes shall be nothing.
Thorns shall grow over its strongholds. It shall be a
haunt of jackals and abode for ostriches. Wildcats shall meet
with hyenas, goat demons shall call out to each other
there to Lilith shall repose and find a place to rest.

(31:09):
So this is interesting. It's like, why is there now
an entity being sort of chained to the region, Like
it's there's something with these spiritual battles and these goddesses
and God himself being involved. I just keep seeing it,
you know, And you know what if these what if

(31:34):
these goddesses were involved with something similar to the watchers
and what they did in Genesis six, right, And maybe
maybe Lilith is is It says she's reposed. It means
basically she's kind of it's almost like they they've locked
her in a tomb beneath Basra and she's in some
sort of a sleep like a chirogenic state. She's not

(31:59):
dead and she's not fully alive. She's locked in this
in this land down there. What did she do?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
And it makes me think of the of some sort
of rebellion or some sort of involvement in the Genesis
sis conspiracy. It makes me think too of the term
you know, like mother Earth. Right, well, what were the Nephelm?
The enough one? Were the earth born? So it's like,
I don't know if maybe you're alluding to that, but
but it's making me think that was this Lilith character

(32:28):
involved that could have come from, you know, some sort
of part of the lineage of Cain that got involved
or I don't know, or or was before that, right
like that was involved in this whole copulation event, right,
I don't know if you're following.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I am, I am, And and was was this figure Wisdom,
this goddess Wisdom? Was she involved with this fight as
well and putting down? Because in that other and that
thing I read before from this Lost Book of the Bible,
it seems like she's a general figure. She's she's warring

(33:08):
with Edom in that book as well, you know, But
I would I would say like we should shift our
focus to another goddess for a second, and that being
Astra to answer this question that the Bible. Yes, yes,
that round.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
All right, teach me please. Okay, so she's let's go.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
She's I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm going to use her
to talk to to answer your your your question or
whatever you said, Steven, it's not a question. But like
what you were just saying about this this bloodline thing
and an that woman all that. So Astra is mentioned
ten times in the Bible that I know of. The
the hit tighte say that she had seventy seven or

(33:49):
sometimes they say she had eighty eight offspring, and in
the texts she's called a progenitor or progenitress. A progenitor
in the Bible is a direct ancestor who is the
origin of a lineage or the origin of a family group. Okay,
so aka Astra may have been part of some sort

(34:12):
of a breeding program. And let me just highlight this.
She's not human, she's goddess. She's definitely a goddess or.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Demi god, what about demigid? You think that could be?
O care because the hybrid, I mean they're trying to procreate,
so they'd have to be like half human half like
maybe fallen angel.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Well, you know, what's the interesting thing with the demi
god aspect is that I think that at some point
they were like it's like, yeah, they're half God because
technically they're they're half fallen angel or celestial body and
then half human. But why did God limit their years
or just man's years in general to one hundred and twenty.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Because you will die?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Well yeah, but it but admit yes, but yes, it
makes me think though that they were immortal.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
They were before you know what I'm saying, people, That's
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, hmm, well I think I think that's what I
think that the people, especially the people associated with with
these entities were definitely uh had longer lives, you know,
they they had apparently they had the ability to heal
themselves too when you look at some of the roots
of the word refayem, which is which is a good

(35:30):
point here, because I think that these goddesses were part
of a breeding program similar to the one found in
Genesis six with the watches. So you know, before the flood,
the giants were nephelin. Right after the flood there Rafayem, right,
I remember I was on here. I told you guys
about the cult of Refayem and how it's an actually

(35:50):
linked to the cult of Ishtar. There's there's some linkage there.
So so how did those giants, how did that nephylum
genes show back up on the Earth for the flood? Well,
what if these female entities who are mentioned plain as
day in the text facilitated, were facilitated some sort of
a a goddess breeding program. They flipped the squid the

(36:15):
script a little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
I'm like something over my words tonight, but you know it,
Like what they did before the flood was the Watchers,
the male Watchers come down and and have kids with
the women of Earth. What if later after the flood,
the goddesses are mating with the kings of Earth, creating

(36:40):
hybrid kids that way said this on podcasts before, and
people looked at me like I was They looked at
me cross eyed, like I was nuts.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
That yeah makes sense. I mean, if they if they're
coming down to male form and meeting with the daughters
of man, why can't they do it as a female
form as well and mate with you know kings of
well it goes.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
It says she's a progenitor, says that Astrara, a goddess,
is a progenitor and in her own in the cultures
around the world, they say, yeah, she had seventy seven
kings at least that were she was mama to. They
we know that they were doing this. I'm just saying,
is this is this part of what we're reading about

(37:25):
in scripture when it says they were on the earth
in those days and.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
After right, So here I want to read a verse
from Jude here because I was just actually we brought
this up in the live that we did just before
this recording. But this is Jude one, verse six, and
it says, and the angels who did not keep their
proper domain or aka their first estate, but left their
own abode he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness

(37:52):
from the judgment of the Great day, as Sodom and
Gomorrah and the cities around them, in similar manner to these,
having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after
strange flesh, are set forth as an example suffering the
vengeance of eternal fire. So which means I mean they
got destroyed by fire and brimstone. Right. So my thing

(38:15):
is is there were angels as well in the that
that little narrative window of Genesis where talking about san Gomora, Abraham,
Lot all this, they were angels present, and we know
that even biblically it was, you know, God was like
a Lot was like, hey, you know, if there's if
there's one righteous, you know, then then save the city.

(38:36):
And God's like, there's not one righteous, and it goes
down all the way to zero pretty much. So I
don't know what you guys think of that, because I
think they.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Were definitely like they weren't just doing like you know,
homosexual acts and all this other stuff and depravity like
perverted acts and doing stuff with children. They were also
meeting with fallen angels. Like what you're saying. I think
that they were doing everything under the sun, and that's
why there was no not one righteous because they were literally,

(39:07):
I think, creating hybrids in that city by doing all the.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Other thing too with the strange flesh idea, because he's
there making a direct comparison to what happened in Genesis
six and what happened in Sodom Gomora are in like
manner of each other. It's just it's a mirror image
of each other. They both followed in same suit with
the same agenda. So it's either two things, right, So
it's either the fallen angels mated with the women in

(39:31):
Sodom and Gomorrah or it's kind of kind of like
what we're getting into, Like, are these angels having the
ability to now take male form?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
And I think they could switch back and forth now.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
They're like doing this this whole thing, uh, you know,
to together forming Who knows what kind of race that
that gets into, But I mean, what are your thoughts
on that, Tim.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, the I think the more that these angelic figures
higher up on the on the hierarchy had this ability.
I don't know if every angel has the ability to
come down here and she use what gender they want,
but certainly the ones with more power essentially seemed to
be able to do this. And in fact, Ishtar i'd say,

(40:15):
is one of those because she for the hit Tights,
she's listed under the male gods and the and the
female gods, so she was able to present herself as
a male apparently sometimes I you know, and I'm wondering
too if lilith Is like was being was being sort
of punished in that in that passage I just read

(40:37):
because she had something to do with this too. She
was coming down here and help helping to further this
uh this you know, this bloodline, but through a breeding program.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
And it's crazy you mentioned that because Lilith it does
literally translate to like mother of demons, like mother and goddess.
She said to be like the first vampire, right yep,
vanpiric stuff going on. That when they crave immortality, that's
how they get it is through the you know, the
perverted acts they were doing, like and you know, through
pretty much blood, eating of blood and drinking of blood.

(41:11):
They would prolong their life and they would offer that
to their.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Too, Like the Bible says, the life is in the blood,
and there's something in the blood that is very it's
it's it's natural.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
These Edamites were also, I can get this right, Amalekites
and that means blood liquor. You guys, I've read this before. Yeah,
it's I think it's the Amalekites. But the thing they
are Edomites. So going back to that scripture that Isaiah
thirty four, lilith Is mentioned here with this destruction of

(41:50):
edom right, and these Edomites were also said to be
the book liquors. So yeah, Lil probably had some sort
of a vampire blood looking cult going on out there
with them too. But I do think that there was
a This has comes down to heavier stuff to do
with DNA and breeding and all that.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Absolutely, and I still think it's up to today. I
still think it's going on to today, like these vampiric
like lines, Like I truly believe like that there's people
out there that are still doing this like to this day.
There's even I've heard of even some people who have
mentioned going to some clubs that they were a whole
bunch of vampires and just participating in this kind of

(42:29):
like drinking of blood and doing stuff like that. It
sounds wonky like some you know, Hollywood movie, but it's
it's still going on. I think. I don't think they
ever stopped, like from back then up until now. They're
just kind of more hidden per se plain sight.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yeah, these practices were carried throughout the ages in these
little small groups, you know, these small groups of occultists
have passed the baton throughout throughout the generations and they've
continued some of these says that most people don't think
or are still being sadly you know, our thing anymore.
But and I think too, like that something happened right

(43:10):
to have these to have these nephelum show back up
on the earth, right, And like another thing that I
see pointing back to the goddesses is like this whole
thing to do with these spaceships, right. And I know
I'm gonna get crazy here just but that's I've often
wondered that some of these goddesses take some of these

(43:31):
priest kings up in the sky during the flood on
sky ships. And I'm not kidding, because when I look
in the ancient world and I see things like the
wing disks that represent flying machines, I'm pretty sure they have.
Sometimes they'll have the eight pointed star of Ishar on them,
or they'll have that templar looking cross which is associated

(43:53):
with the Ananaki and Inana. So the goddesses are associated
with these flying crafts. And I've said this before from honest, yes,
you've got that Serbian fresco from thirteen fifty and up
in the corner. There's clearly a UFO that clearly has
the eight pointed starvish Tar on it too. So for

(44:15):
a long time, these goddesses have been associated with flying diskies.
That's what Ishtar was known for, especially to the in Uric,
like like the city of Eric, the Sumerian city of Eric.
That's they were like, she's the one who goes up
and flies in the skies.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Like.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
It all points back to goddesses, and they seem to
have had this technology that they could get people off
planet for a little while.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Right, and just people need to think about this logically. Right,
if we went from two hundred years ago literally carrying
you know, oil lanterns around and we were you know,
electricity didn't really it was getting work done, right, But
we've accelerated so fast. We have artificial intelligence, you know,

(45:01):
navy jets flying around in the air. We've got predator
drones flying around. People are controlling these things with a
little joystick while they're eating a slim gym. Dude. This
is crazy, bro right. My whole point is we we
came up this fast pretty quick, and it was only
two hundred years. If we go back before the flood,
which the flood completely you know, full restart, right, and

(45:27):
if you go back in those times and if there
was technology, you know, from the time of no, let's
just say right, it would have grown. I mean it
was what six generations until the Genesis six event happened,
which was still pre flood, but six generations. But of
their generations, they were living a nine hundred, eight hundred
and something years old. We're talking about a long time.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I think they had greater Say yeah, like if you're.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Saying technology was at one point in its origin and
had the ability to grow, it would have imagine where
we would be sixteen hundred years from now, you know
what I'm saying. It would be like the stuff would
be incredible, the computers would be in our bodies. That's
where I.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Think Tartaria and stuff comes into play. With that stuff.
I think they got rid of that, like that knowledge
that they had.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
I think some of this technology has possibly been slipped
back into our hands from some of these yep, these figures,
these you know entities. Really, I mean it's like and
like back back to the goddess thing. Like I think,
I think this will tell us a lot. And I'm
hitting on this so hard today is because I don't
see it being talked about in the modern Church. But

(46:39):
it's it's all throughout the Bible, it's all throughout the
ancient world. This was one hundred percent of thing. This
is just God's goddess thing. And it's like I brought
up that that Isaiah thirty seven twenty two last time
I was on here, where it says, you know, it's
has a chised prayer about Seneca rib who was the
king of Ayria, and he's a man, right, But in

(47:00):
verse twenty two, God says, this is the word of
the Lord that is spoken concerning him, and he goes.
She despises you, she scorns you. It's like, okay, who
is she? Well, like we broke down in that last episode,
there's multiple passages like this where God addresses the king
and then addresses the entity who's ruling over the king,

(47:23):
the supernatural entity, and Senekaib the king it was a Syrian, right,
he lived in Nineveh. Who was the goddess of Nineveh
historically Ishtar. In fact, she's the main goddess in all
of Assyria in the ancient world. So I don't see

(47:44):
how this could be anyone else unless it's Nisrok, which
maybe an incarnation of Ishtar. Because later in this passage
of Isaiah thirty seven, it says Nisrok, it says that
Seneka rib went home after her battle to worship nis Rock,
and it's I found zero Bible scholars with an answer

(48:06):
for who Nisrock is. It's a it's a major, major mystery.
Some some Bible scholars suggest it's a misspelling and it's
that we're talking about Nimrod, but Nimrod was dead, so
I just looked into it. You know, it's niz Rock.
There's a god called it niz Abba, who was a

(48:26):
Mesopotamian goddess. She's one of the oldest Sumerian goddesses that
you could find in writing, and she's the goddess of knowledge.
So I'm thinking that this is some sort of amalgamation
of of Ishtar in this Abba. And because she's the god,
the god goddess of knowledge, I'm thinking that maybe this

(48:48):
was Ishtar's attempt to be a knockoff version of Sophia
or Wisdom, right, I think is a format.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, wasn't a star like a fertility goddess too as well?

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Well, that's what they say. She was a lot of
different things.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Okay, that's just you'll hear that.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
You'll hear the fertility thing being a thrown around a
lot more than it should. A lot of people will
say that about all these ancient sites. Oh it was
a it was a it was a fertility ritual spot.
They don't know that half the time. They don't know that,
like that's.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Just program spot.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, well that and that that type of fertility. Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly,
it was a thing. Like it was a thing. Don't
get me wrong, the fertility thing was a thing, but
it all everything gets attributed to that, and that's not
what everything was about.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
It's so funny how there's different like goddesses for different things,
like the goddess of wisdom, the goddess of fertility, the
goddess of this. Well, what what's with all that? And
why is it pertaining to a female figure? What's what's
to do with that?

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I think it's because these female figures existed, and yeah,
this was really a thing in the ancient world, and.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
The occultest like love, they seem to gravitate towards a
goddess figure versus a male figure. I've noticed. I don't know,
are you noticing the same things or am I just tripping,
like because I've noticed they gravitate towards like okay, like
Mother Gaya, that's like the tree of life, their tree
of life figure. Everything's like and the having you do

(50:22):
it with earth and nature is almost a goddess figure
as well. What's with this? You know? Female?

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Well, so I think this is what we're going through
right now in a lot of ways. Is humanity trying
to reconnect with the old ways. Absolutely, and that was
the old ways. I mean, the goddess thing was just
huge in the ancient world. And it you know, from
what I could tell, it wasn't Lucifer. They weren't building
temples to Lucifer. They were building temples to Ishtar, you know.

(50:49):
And like I'm trying to look at these passages of
the Bible where God addresses these entities to sort of
find these clues, right because another one we brought up
earlier was was at Isaiah fourteen, and you know, God
addresses the king of Babylon and then he addresses this
day star, son of Dawn, the helll ben Shahar. So

(51:13):
we've got that format for us in scripture. We need
to be looking at that. Like Ezekiel twenty eight is
another one with the King of Tire. He talks to
the ki as a message for the King of Tire.
Then he then he talks directly to the ruling spirit
over him. And this is just where I mean, I

(51:33):
looked at this Isaiah thing, and it's like it's like
Stephen was saying earlier. You know, you've got the Hebrew
for hellal meaning shining one, and then ben Shahar means
you know, morning star, and it's all this relates to
Venus so and Venus in the ancient world is associated
with Istar, so.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
It's it's all connected.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Yeah, And there I think that they're just I think
the light bulb just one of them.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Everything planet's already connected. It seems like it's almost like
these planets are set up with these principalities, dude, like
that correlate with what's going.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
On, celestial entities that that rule certain parts of the heavens.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
And to answer your question, why are all these different goddesses?
Why is there one of fertility and one of war
and one of knowledge? Yeah, well, I think at the
end of the day, there was just a handful of
goddesses and they just kept changing their names across cultures.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Right, recycling.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
As people would migrate to different lands, as culture would shift, uh,
they would change the name of their goddess.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
That's why you see it ish Tar in Samaria and
then oh Stara in the Nordic lands.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
I notice a lot of Nordic like old ways coming
back in our society right now, towo people are really
trying to identify with that right now. I don't don't
think I've ever seen a time like what I've been alive,
like to where there's so hard gravitating towards that Nordic culture.
Now you notice that even tatten, Nordic tattoos and stuff
are coming back, and the old ways and.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
People you have a we have a million times like
this is like wu wuo. It's that, yeah, I mean
it's probably that yeah, But there's also we have this
these memories of the way things were for millennia. It's like,
I know that's wu wu, but it's like, you know,
we have like these ancestral memories of the way things
used to be. It's almost like it's natural for some
of the stuff to happen, even though I even I

(53:32):
don't I don't promote some of this stuff outside I think,
you know, walk walk your path and walk a narrow
one and walk according to the will of the Lord,
you know. But some of this stuff has just been
practiced by humans for a long time. But yeah, you know, Venus,
venuses is Ishtar, and that's what that passage kind of
made me think of. You know, the path of Venus

(53:54):
in the sky makes horns. You see horns associated with Satan, right, Saytan,
where's horns? It's it all goes back to God's worship, right,
The path that Venus makes in uh in the night
sky around the rising and setting of the sun makes
the horn shapes and you know tradition that.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah, what's the the god in like Egyptian culture where
it has like the sun disc with the horns on
it too. What was that called?

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Oh that's well, that's that's isis Okay, Sometimes that's yeah,
and she's she's isis half of where there's a lot
of ishtar connections there. But what what I'm doing here
is like I'm trying to to we're making steps here
to better know our enemy. Right, Like, what I just
want people, I just want to remind people like I'm

(54:45):
not here to question the Bible I'm just questioning some
of the narratives we've been given concerning the Bible.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Right, question everything except God, That's what I say. But
we have to know otherwise we're going to be stupid
to like their devices.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
We got to be wise as serpents, you know, because
we were thrown into the world like amongst wolves. That's
what the Bible says. Man Like, we we have to
we can't just be our complacent Christian like, oh harverything's
just gonna be okay. And we don't have to know
everything like you know, like we should know about some
stuff so we don't fall, you know, into the traps
of the enemy.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
You know. I got another one here for you. Genesis
fourteen to five, the Battle of the Kings. It says
in the fourteenth year, ked er Lamore and the Kings
allied with him went out and defeated the rap Heights
in Astroth Karnaim. So, like I said, right, the ref

(55:44):
Ium have this connection to Ishtar. And what we're seeing
here is the ref Ium hadn't had named their cities
after her too. So right, so the ref Im are
living in Astrooth Karnaem, which means Astra Wroth of the
two Horns goes back to this astrology thing, and this
goddess thing, Astaroth is also known as Istar. Right, So

(56:08):
in this case we have the city named and everything else,
and they're they're worshiping Astaroth of the two Horns, associated
with Venus, and they're naming their region after that, right.
So I just I just see this now popping out
of scripture everywhere. It's like that they weren't they weren't

(56:28):
naming their cities and stuff after Lucifer or Satan. This
was after a goddess, right. This was a ref This
was a nephilin Refae religion. And it's centered around this
mystery Babylon. That's what it is, The cult of Ishtar,
the Mystery Babylon. All the all the debauchery and the
Old Testament centers around this cult of Ishtar. And and

(56:49):
and you see bail and Moloch Bell may have been
a Nephelm, may have been a real person, hybrid or whatever,
but but definitely this god iss stuff. And I mean,
you know, that just gets interesting here, like when you
look into that hell l word like that we were
talking about earlier, Like I said, the Arabs had that
in the pre Islamic world, it was there. It was

(57:10):
a hellal. The Meccan moon god and lunar deities tend
to be female. Solar entities seem to be male, So
again you've got this goddess stuff in there.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
So even the Aztecs had that moon god like, they
had a moon god like over the moon, but they
also had that like you ever see that little you
know what's the was it? Dream Works has that little
kid fishing off the moon or something like that too,
But that's based off of like an Aztec like god
like and like there's something there's something behind that that

(57:47):
I feel like goes very deep like with that culture,
and like, I don't know, there's something to all this.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Yeah, I want to sing, We're on something, right, That's
that's what That's what this that's what this is all
about today. Like this is me trying to tell people.
What's what I'm just telling people, like, we need to
look at this a little bit, a little bit closer, right,
And I got something I got to show you guys,
But I want your.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
MIC's a little low. I think you miss, I think
I hit it?

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Is that all right? Now?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Try again?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Can you hear me.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Okay, it's a little lower, but yeah, let me see.
So go ahead and say something quick.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
All right, I don't know what happened there.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Why'd you do it?

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Tam?

Speaker 2 (58:27):
What'd you do?

Speaker 1 (58:28):
I don't know if maybe you hit the game now?
But but no, you're good. You're good, you're good.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Well, I want to show you. I want to show
you got something, but I probably need to ask first
if I could show this. It's uh, it does feature nudity,
but maybe we can maybe we can blur out the
you know, I'm sure we can pay the parts. Okay,
if if, if you're out there, if you're out there
and you got kids, just skip this far. Just skip

(58:56):
this far.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
This is a.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
And if you drop for some reason from the studio,
just from sharing a screen, just just hop back in.
You're good.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
This is weird.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Is that in Indonesia too? Like?

Speaker 3 (59:17):
So, this is a picture of an artifact found in
the Rocky Mountains. No, what I believe it's that that's funny.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
I'm sorry, I just I just saw this. I think this.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
I think this belongs to that race of giants that
came over here. This was I think this was the
remnants of the Nepheline tribe. And what we see here
is clearly an androgen and up in the top right corner,
what do we have the eight point star ish star.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
That's it, right, Okay, So I haven't I haven't little
connection here I'm making. Now, you guys are familiar and
we probably mentioned this earlier, but you guys familiar with
the Palladian society, right, yes, yes, okay, So what the
Palladians are, it's it's it's this extraterrestrial race that has

(01:00:16):
had multiple, multiple encounters with different contact ease. And you know,
there's there's uh, they're described as being male and female,
but but there's also kind of like two races. You know,
there's there's two genders. But the way they look takes

(01:00:36):
me so, I know, right, like they look so they
look just they look at grogynists. They look like what
a transgender would would look like today. Right. So there's
a few Yeah, there's a few experiences here that I
can share.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
But but you guys, you guys get what I'm saying
with that picture, right, like, oh yeah, this that's a
glimpse into the past and the glimpse into some sort
of a figure that people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Really worshiped and it was it had six breasts and
a big old you know what, And yes, that was ridiculous,
that's real, that's but that's these ancient people carved that
and they were over because we know they werever here.
We talked about that. We talked about them, the Tumukua
tribe down in Georgia. Right, they were these seven to

(01:01:29):
eight foot people who were practicing child sacrifice, Canaanite stuff,
Canaanite ritual practice. They we know these giants came over
here and like that's something that they worshiped. That's a
remnant of something really worshiped in the ancient world.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I think they're creating me bridge stuff like that, right,
you know, Tim, do this for me. I want you
to to Google this this for me, and then share
this image on your screen. I'm just afraid to do
it online because sometimes I dropped from the studio for
some reason. So type in Ashtar share Ryan that's s

(01:02:06):
H E r A N and you should. You should
have images that show up on Google. Pull up the
first one, bro right, this is this is something maybe
the contributing to what we're talking about. And this is
a this is a Palladian species.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Let me share a scrain again.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Yep. And so this looks so eerily adrogynous, uh that
that I don't know if if it's the same.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I don't know if this is gonna Let me do
this because I have the chrome.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
I'll try. If I drop from the call, I can
edit all this out. So here, let me see.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Here, let me let me look it up on my
phone to see what is it? Ashtar or ish tar?

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
It's a ash tar?

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Share round, okay, h e r oh, yeah, it's a Nordic.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
It looks just like a Nordic. Now look look at
the symbol in the right hand. That's it's an.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Is three four, five six seven.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
But it looks wait wait.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Wait, wait, I can't tell it might be a on a.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Let me see if I can pull this up all right, lord,
please do not let this drop.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yeah it's seven. But here, I'll show people real quick
on my phone.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Okay, oh there they can see it right here. Yeah.
So that that's wild to me, you know. And it's
got that that symbol there, and there's obviously a wild
crazy symbol right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Here's the same symbols we just saw on that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Dude, well that this is what I was talking about
with these goddesses being linked to the UFO thing. Uh
we did with lose Steven. Yeah, how's he going to
get back in here?

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
He'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
He'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Okay, But yeah, I mean that's so that's what I'm
talking about, man like, with the goddesses being linked to this,
to this UFO thing. Right, it goes back to nineteen
forty seven. And because what happens in nineteen forty seven
is George van Tassels out in the Mohave Desert and
he starts this Ashtar command movement. He says he was

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channeling an entity named Ashtar. That's what that's that's the
male form of what I think he was talking about,
this this Nordic thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yes, I mean, and they're like eight foot tall, like
kind of like Nordic looking characters, blue eyeblonde hair usually.
I think that's even what like you know, Hitler back
in the day was trying to go after and look
for as well. He was trying to contact that race
of Palladian phone you know, angel things.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Okay, so get this out and I'll tell this again,
but I'll tell it a different way, so it's not
born to people because I want to Stephen hear this, Like,
so that Ashtar guy that you pulled up, that goes
back to nineteen forty seven in this and the UFO movement,
the true beginnings of what the UFO movement is today. Right,

(01:05:16):
it's George Van Tassel. It goes out to the Mohave
Desert in nineteen forty seven. He doesn't even he doesn't
know Jack Parsons and l Ron Hubbard, but they choose
to go to the same desert and they both talk
about channeling an entity. For Jack Parsons, he said it
was mystery Babylon Ishtar. For Van Tassel, he said it

(01:05:42):
was this Ashtar character. And so you got these three
guys in the desert at the same time, both saying
they're getting these these extra dimensional messages from a being
called Ishtar, and Van Tassell goes on to start to
Ashtar command movement out there, which kind of in a

(01:06:04):
lot of ways goes on to become the New Age, right,
Like if you take if you take Bolvatsky's work and
put it with Van Tassel's work, that's how we get
a New Age movement. In the first place, and for
him it goes back to for van task, it goes
back to this Ashtar character. They called it Dashtark command.

(01:06:24):
It's still around. If you go out to Mount Shasta,
they'll tell you at Mount Shasta that on some days
they looks like a craft forms above the mountain, right
the clouds come down, and they say, all is Sashtar command.
It was, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
It's funny you say that because my brother, he lives
in Cali. He's been to Mount Shasta and he's seen
some weird spiritual stuff up there. When he's went up there,
you can even feel like a presence up there in
a vibration, he said, like when he's up there. So
it's just like, bro, there's a lot. I think there's
a portal on that mountain.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
To be honest, Oh yeah, I think that's a portal loocase.
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
I mean in a it's just not everything's lucifer like.
I mean, I'm sorry, I think that that's been just
it's just something people have gotten used to hearing in
church where a pastor gets up there and uses three
words for the same conceptual entity, being like the devil, Satan, Lucifer.

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It all kind of has come to represent one entity.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I think there's many things that work for the Kingdom
of darkness that obviously Lucifer just isn't the only one. Like,
let's be honest here, you know, there's just many different
things that work for the Kingdom of darkness.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Yeah, I would say that this is a rebel group
of cherub them, not just one bad guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
And if you study the Bible, Lucifer becomes sort of
difficult to understand, right. And that's the catch here is
that the Bible, the writers of the Bible never used
that word Lucifer. It's it's in some Bibles today. It's
because of the Latin vulgate. They added it later.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Like basilbo Beezy, the libup whatever the you saying like
I don't know how to pronounce that he's you know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
That's that's more. I think that's a bail reference to Bail,
I think. But you know, and you got the Diablo, right,
the Diabola who tempted Jesus. That could have been one
of these rebel chair of them too. And honestly, guys,
Gadriel is a big one for me. That's who I
think most of this stuff can be attributed to it

(01:08:39):
if we're not talking about goddesses, right, Like I've shown
the ish to our connection. But there are some other
passages that I think refer to a male entity, and
that's I think that's Gadriel because of the Book of
Enoch clearly names him and says he's the one who
led Eve astray.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Really, oh man, this is interesting. So why do a
lot of Christians tend to like look up to like
Gabriel or you know, Michael the ark angel in my life?

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
It's not It's not Gabriel. It's Gabriel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
It's different. Oh okay, okay, I was gonna say that different, Yeah,
ok different, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
It's Enoch says that Gadriel was one of the five
angels who rebelled against God, and that he was part
of deceiving Eve and he was part of the fall
of man in general. It also says that he showed
humans how to make weapons of death. So you know,
in John was it John eight forty four it says, uh,

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you know, it's God speaks to the Pharisees and says,
you were of your father the devil. The devil He
was a liar and a murderer from the beginning. That's Gadriel. Okay,
God was a liar from the beginning. He was a
liar in in the Garden of Eden, and he was
a murderer because he was showing them how to create

(01:10:03):
weapons of death.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Don't the Freemasons kind of like like him too, because
he like he taught them how to do all that
stuff doesn't have to play on like Caine and Tubal
Kane stuff, or does it have a connection at all,
because I'm starting to believe that there's like almost deeper
origins to like all this stuff, Like they're very connected

(01:10:24):
with Kane for sure, because of you know, he should.
I believe Kane is such like a huge person of
rebellion against God that even like the Falling kind of
like connected with Kane. I don't know what are your
thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
I've got some I've got some thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
I want to hear your craziest idea.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
All right, all right, if you want that ar give
it to in regards to Kane and gadd Reel. Actually
that's funny, this works out. Why Why did Adam and
Eve had the impulse to cover their sexual Organs.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Right after the fall shame.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Sexual? Was it sexual? So I think, what if Gadriel
because I believe the Book of Youenock, I believe he
was there. I believe that this was the entity who
tempted Eve and started the fall man. I think he
also started the serpent seed because if the sin was sexual,
Cain is possibly Gadrielle's son. And I know people are

(01:11:34):
going to red flags.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Are going, well, here's the thing that narcissism is the
fact that you think Lucifer was the light Bringer, the Prometheus,
the fire bringer, right that that that freed us from
the corralled environment of Eden that we were restricted to.

(01:11:57):
Like that is the general understanding of nissism. And what
happens is is a lot of things get blended in
with each other. So so like this would be called
lake heresy if we were to bring this up. But
we were actually dude, So I had Harley.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
On Harley Brown.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
We we we in the panel discussion. You would have
loved it, Tim, if this is something that we're getting
into right now, because.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
I'll do the next one, just let me know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Yeah. Yeah, So so he he brought up you know,
and he's very passionate about it. He comes off arrogant,
and he's a young he's a young man, but he's
he means very well, and he's done a lot of research,
and he is very strict that this is a serpent
the serpent seed thing is real, like it is something
that actually did take place. I believe that, you know,

(01:12:40):
and and I've entertained the idea because it is a
sexual thing that that that happened in the garden. At least.
I'm coming around to the fact that you know, when
you stick your hand in the cookie jar, you put
the cookie in your mouth, your mom turns around the corner,
it comes into the kitchen like like you cover your mouth.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Right, Eve, Eve, crime, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Seems to be that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
I think that's why the punishment for Eve was reproductive. Yes, right,
So think about it like this. Cain Cain is gadriel
son Abel is Adam's son. Kin means acquired. The word
Kane means meaning he wasn't Adam and Eve's he was

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acquired by Gadriel, in my opinion, and and in the
lineage in the body, he says Enoch was the seventh
from Adam. It's not the seventh from Adam if you
include kin.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
So right, if even what I'm saying, I follow you
exactly because even when you get into the the uh,
you know the repercussions, right, Like what what was the
punishment to Eve? It was?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
It was?

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
It was that she would have child pains and birth
and and all of this, Like there was there was
a there was a cause and effeir to a certain
part of her. Right now, what was and that was
you know, child bearing? Okay, and so real quick, real quick,
like Adam, what was how was Adam cursed? Like that
the the ground was cursed on his part? What was

(01:14:16):
Adam created for Adam was created to till the ground?
What was Eve created for? Eve was created to birth
all of the living. So it's like he cursed them
as well, based off of what their their sole purpose was,
you know, out of many other purposes, you know, don't
get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
But since since we kicked this off by talking about
the Jewish tradition, I'll throw in another Jewish tradition, which
says that Eve had a child with sam I l
and upon seeing that child, Eve realized that he wasn't human,
right he was? She says in some of the Jewish texts.

(01:15:00):
She says, he was like the ones above, is like
the upper creatures, not the lower creatures. And Eve says,
I have a man from the angel of the Lord.
And that's why she said what she said in Genesis
four one where she says, I have a child of
the Lord because he's half angel, right, And this is like,

(01:15:23):
this is my opinion, right. I don't think the Sea
war started with the watchers. I think it started with
Cain and it got intensified later by the watchers and
it's still going. But you know, and I think that
that's recognizing I think it's Matthew thirteen where it says
the enemy snuck into the garden and sowed the tears,

(01:15:44):
and God says, to let the let the tears grow
together until the end, till the end time, and the
sea is let let Eve seed and the servants seed
grow together and exists together until the end when everything
will be reconciled.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
I believe that there's a physical seed of the enemy,
like you know, like there's children of the devil, and
I believe that, you know, there's children of God too,
But we all have that choice to make, you know,
who we serve you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah,
here's another thing. I had a question for you too,
like do you think that people who are born like

(01:16:22):
of this basically satanic seed line, do you think they
can be redeemed since they're like half human and they
could choose God? Because I know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Even like exactly what we talked about on the live Dude,
this is so this is like some sort of confirmation
or something for me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I don't know if God playing a joke on me
right now, Oh no, this is he's having a Dude,
I swear, this is like okay, and I know that
even the giant hey sure, sure, why not? Right? The

(01:17:00):
giants who were actually part of these tribes like of
you know what am I saying, they fought for God's
people too. They decided, you know what, I don't want
to do this, I don't you know, and they fought
with David. I believe they fought with David if I'm
not mistaken, and they decide to fight for him instead of.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
The lion headed men or something like that like that too. Yes,
But we had on we had on Joel Thomas uh
Free the Rabbits podcast, and he talked about this whole
idea of you know, the the redemption redemption.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Yeah, yeah, you know, here's the thing with that. It's
like these entities that have created this this bad seed,
if serpent seed or whatever, they weren't always bad. They
just they started out good and they were build right,
but they're cut They're cut from the same cloth as
the good entities, right, So I don't I don't know

(01:18:00):
that it would be something in the blood itself that
that damns them to being redeemed. It's just the choices
they make.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
And you become tribal, right, like you generally become, you know,
if that's my dad, Yeah, you know, I've got a
team dad. You know, at some point I might be yeah, right,
I might not be and then maybe go bad because
I'm like, you know, my morality, you know, discernment gets
thrown out the window because I'm just tribal to you know,

(01:18:29):
my father's If that makes any.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Sense, Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense to me.
And like that was I mean, I feel like I've
dropped the lot on people just just a second ago.
I mean, you know, that's that's something I haven't talked
about publicly, to my knowledge, I haven't talked about my thoughts,
my true thoughts on the Adam and Eve thing, and
some people are going to associate that opinion, the one

(01:18:52):
that I put out there, with the one that Adam
had a child with Lilith, and that's not That's not
what I'm saying. I'm saying that these this entity who
came down in the garden, this Nakash, the shining One,
looked and had a human form form or humanoid form

(01:19:13):
it looked, and there they have their they have the
ability to reproduce.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
That Like was that almost like a date rape drug?
Like that's the thing. Yeah, I know I'm hitting on.
Like once she bit the apple and ate it, do
not eat hat, it got kind of like real. The
Nicas is like, oh, let me just earbro and just

(01:19:41):
you know yeah, and he's just like all right, I'm
gonna mate with her. And then Adam obviously had sex
with you too. And then what's that identical twin or
process like where you can have like two fathers or
some medical conditioners.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Yeah, it's two fathers one m there go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Yes, I believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
I can't say it on the show because it sounds
like I'm cursing, but I'll find it right now though.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Yeah, it's been proven to go down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Right there, and that does happen. I truly believe that's
what happened in the garden. Feel me, I don't care,
like that's what I believe that happened, like paternal Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
This is where it gets bad, guys, super fecundation, superdition. Sorry,
but that's the phenomenon, and it's actually been proven quite
a few times.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Think about Think about this though, Think about so if
according to the Book of Enoch, this was perpetrated by Gadriel.
In the Jewish tradition, they say, yes, it was sam Il.
So maybe we're connecting some dots here. Maybe Gadriel is

(01:20:56):
also known as Samil, which is very interesting. If that's
the case, that means that Samile and Gadriel are represented
in the Baphomet, who is an androgen androgynous.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Yes, And that's why I think even now today and
we see in our society, that's why I see such
an explosion of this kind of lifestyle is because I
believe people are trying to go back to what it
was before, the old ways. You know what I'm saying.
There was a whole cult I forget what it was
called based off of basically this androgyny, like they would

(01:21:35):
literally have to be dressed like that in order to
appease this god. I forget which one it was, but
they would do this back in those times, like, oh
it was mass.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Scale, this was this was a big thing in the
Temple of Ishtar.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Yeah, and even if Freemason's believe, if you like look
in their dogma and stuff like that, in order to
achieve godhood, you have to be rest like opposite gender
you were born. Like, to be androgynists is to attend
like the biggest godhood possible. That's where you like basically
ascend as a god. And that's why so much of

(01:22:12):
our political figures, celebrities and everything like that are like androgynists,
and they take on another form of who they are,
you know, they believe.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
It's like this spirit comes back into the culture, right,
And I kind of like that better than than the
ancestral memory. I think it is that, Like I talked
about that earlier, I do think that that's a factor.
But I think that these things sort of return in cycles,
and they kind of come down and hover over as

(01:22:44):
humans like a cloud. It's like in the sevities. When
you've got the second wave of a feminism that kicks off,
and get and Lilith, they're all they're all talking about
Lilith and how Lilith is this this figure of liberation
for women's rights and all that. Right, that's the in
my opinion, that's the spirit of Wilith coming back and
inserting herself into the culture and becoming relevant again. And

(01:23:07):
I think that you see that happening with this androgyn
of stuff happening across the boards. It's like the spirit
of Ishtar has entered the room. She's back in the house.
She's coming back, and she's reinventing herself in the in
the modern culture.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Bro just recycling listen to this, right, So I'm putting
a few things together. I just googled some stuff. When
we look at ancient cultures and we look at ancient societies,
you know, one of them being closest to us would
be like the Roman Empire. Right, we know that what
happened and what rose in the Roman Empire which kind
of assisted or maybe influenced its downfall, which it you know,

(01:23:47):
recreated itself in a church and it became a global religion.
But at least that's what I think. You know, when
we look at the Fall of Rome, what was taking
place in that time in Rome, Well, it was in
a an adrogynous spirit. It was this male female confusion.
It was where people started to you know, men became

(01:24:08):
feminine and and and females became you know, masculine, and
it really just kind of destroyed the empire. Well, when
we're looking at that idea of multiple empires kind of
going through the similar trend, right that they've never really
put their finger on it. But I can only say

(01:24:29):
from what we've talked about tonight that this adrogynoust spirit
has assisted with the downfall of these certain uh, you know,
empires throughout the world. But there's another thing. If if
the if the if the spirit is adrogynous, it means
it's it's uh, it's it's solve and coagula. Right, It's

(01:24:51):
it's the the upper hand pointing up and that other
hand pointing down of the baphomet. Right, it's this, it's this, Uh,
it's this. It's it's alchemy. Right, It's it's taking something
and and and and chemically destroying it to bring in
something new. Right. So for example, what what do we see?

(01:25:14):
What's an idea that is of a goddess that kind
of represents alchemy to me, it's Shiva. Well, Shiva is
an androgynous god. Sheiva is a just is a goes destruction,
but then out of that destruction comes life. It's like
in the movie with Godfila. Like listen, it's like the

(01:25:34):
movie like with God. Yes, exactly, it's like the Godzilla movie. Right.
In the Godzilla movie, they're all moving around the cities
and they're actually fighting and they're destroying the cities, but
because of the radiation coming off of them, it's actually
growing vegetation and plants and and and all kinds of
different species that are only making the world a better place,

(01:25:57):
this golden age out of the destruction. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
And Shiva is another one who has changed names throughout time.
Shiva is And I'll break this down. I told I
talked to Stephen about this before and in the show
he did with me on my show, like we got
into this whole certain thing and this whole Shiva thing, right,
Like that's a whole other episode. I'm gonna get into it.
You has sometime, right, But what what I found was

(01:26:23):
that Siva starts. One version of Shiva starts out in
the end this valley. And as the people who believe
in that God start to migrate, they move up through
Turkey and then they move up into Europe and they
take Shiva with them. But what happens Siva's name begins
to change. The staying God, same ritual practices, the name changes.

(01:26:48):
I just want to throw that in there, because I
think that's how we get all these different different names
to God, the same God.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
They're just the image of the time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Like, look at the image of Shiva. It's one hand up,
one hand down. Yeah, it's like it's with all kinds
of and it's probably got what eight arms. Maybe that
relates to Ishtar with the eight pointed star. I don't know,
but maybe there's something there. But that's what I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Saying that is that's actually pretty astute, because that's crazy
because the some of the old depictions of the eight
pointed star in Sumer in the ancient world, they look
like eight arms. They have that hook hook in them.
It's like it's not straightened out, it's like an arm.
That's pretty wild, man. But and another thing, like, because Taylor,

(01:27:35):
you're talking about the Freemasons, man, and I just had
this thought, it's like getting into the getting into the
the androgynists, I don't know, Like they acknowledged androgynists, right,
And it's because they acknowledged divinity as being, and they
because it's all about becoming your own God in some
of these orders, right, So it's like God there, You're

(01:27:57):
you're looking to become godlike, and it's like they see
that as androgynous because it represents to them the dual
nature of God. They believe that this is part of
the mysteries. It's like some of this knowledge that that
has been shifted out of society today was just kind
of common day knowledge back in the day to some
of these people. So the Masons have their handle some

(01:28:18):
of that knowledge. And some of that includes this idea
that God does have a gul nature that is male
and female.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Right, But he made us obviously with a purpose, and
we're obviously created either male or female. But the problem
is they want to become God themselves, who has probably
these characteristics of stuff because God is a spirit, you know,
but he has this nurturing spirit. But also like I
believe it's I don't want to speak any blosphemy against God.

(01:28:47):
But you know there is obviously characteristics because we're all
created in the image of God, right, so women being
in the image of a God and men created in
the image of God. So he has these characteristics of things.
But they themselves want to be like no, to be
a God. So I'm just gonna send it be androgynists,
you know, like I just that's.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
What does the devil do?

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
What is this?

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
There you go disease and.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
Lies behind there's.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
There's there might be something to that man, but what
is and what does this rebel group of chirup and
do known as the devil? What what they do is
they take a little bit of truth. Actually, what they
do is they give you some truth and and in
bad a lie in it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Yeah it's a majority truth, but its just a lie
nidge and lie to like pollute the whole thing, you know, right,
So it sounds great, but you know it's just like
I'm just gonna tweak it just to tad. It's just
like leavin bread, you know, you put in some oldie
bread with a whole loaf of bread, it's just gonna
pollute the whole thing, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Yeah, that's what these entities do in general, like when
we look at people who've channeled entities for information, or
or people like the people of Sumer who had the
Annunaki story, they were getting information from higher entities. That's
how they had the annoy story story in the first place.

(01:30:08):
And what we see with that an Inochy story is
some truth with a bit of a lie. It's it's
a remix on the watchers, right, is what it is.
But but what the annoy say, they say, Oh, we
created you, we created humanity.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
That's what they're going to do in these times we're
living in. I believe they're going to start appearing to
men and say the same dang thing, you know, Like
they're gonna be like, oh, where are your creators? You
should follow us? And the new world order will look
like a new age with these fallen ones, and we're
supposed to just kind of mingle intermingle with them in

(01:30:43):
our society. I believe that's what we're going to see
coming up here, and honestly the next couple of years,
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
I think that that's what's gonna also contribute to a
lot of this apostasy like this, this falling away of
the church, right, that that if aliens are real, well,
for example, if we don't have these kinds of conversations,
the discernment that is out there for the general population
of the church. I mean, I just that they're not
going to be you know, grounded on these ideas. You

(01:31:14):
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
You look at the old school Christian, like, what do
you think is gonna happen when they see these fallen
ones appear. They're gonna totally be freaked out. They're gonna
question whether the Bible's real. They're gonna question, you know,
if this whole narrative of you know, Jesus being real,
Like they're not gonna like aliens wasn't in the Bible
anywhere that I read. Well, they're just a new name.

(01:31:38):
They're basically what society wants them to be. But there
they were always from angels and demons. Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
It's like it's like if you go back and you
look at even at the Greek origin of Atlantis. You know,
they they said that the god Poseidon saw a human
girl named Clito and married her, and they had five
sets of twins, and that's how Atlanta started the first
one was Atlas, right which the island was named, and
then Atlantis the city was there. But I think Poseidon

(01:32:08):
this is an example of what we're talking about, right,
like truth with a little bit of life. I think
Poseidon could be Cain the first aka the first Nephlum,
because we've established that. I think today, yes, said the first.
But you got to remember though, the story came to
the Greeks through Solon, who learned it from an Egyptian
priest in the was in the temple of the goddess neath,

(01:32:32):
So the name, the names change right as the stories
passed through cultures. I doubt the Egyptians called him Poseidon
because that's a Greek name. And also we think about it,
this goddess neath, right, if this priest was channeling this
info from the entity neath, that entity didn't tell the
full truth. They told the truth with a with a

(01:32:55):
lie hidden beneath. They're at war with God. They always
spend truth, as I believe the Anonaki did it. Just
of course over time that's what happened, you know, and
Solon heard that six hundred BC, so the stories had
time to morph too.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
It's like playing a game of telephone it's gonna morph throughout,
you know, but it's still gonna have the kind of
the same little story, but the names are gonna change,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
And that's the story of the watch I'm just thinking
about it right now, like that whole Poseidon and Clito.
That's the story of the Watchers coming down to Mount
Hermon and taking human wives and creating their own little,
you know, civilizations out of it. Bloodlines. It's a it's
a breeding program. And again it's like, I don't ever
hear anybody give a decent well I don't. I'm gonna

(01:33:42):
rephrase that. I just don't hear a lot of ideas
on how they were on the earth in those days
and after.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
How did they Again, I just I just want to
like the like they went to the sky and had
their little like ships and stuff like that, or the
marine king and that was what I said, Kingdom mermaids
and stuff. Marine Kingdom. World is underneath the ocean too,
so they could have survived that flood.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Yeah, bro, that's asher Astro is the Queen of the Sea,
the ashera Pole who we talked about. She had the
seventy seven to eighty eight kings. She was the progenitress.
She was the goddess of the sea. They could have too,
that's right, they could have He's Assyrian too. They could
have taken these, They could have taken people for refuge

(01:34:30):
down into the ocean and ships, or up until the
sky with ships. I don't know which one it is.
I'm not dogmatic on that. But given this, given this
like association with the goddesses and the spacecraft that we see,
you know, representing the ancient world, I think it's just
safe to assume that they had some sort of spacecraft.
Like you said, the vimanas those existed. Solomon had one.

(01:34:55):
That's another topic.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
You can still seem in India. They're just on the ground,
but they could definitely lift off and go up unto
the sky, like if we had that technology back today.
And I think we're going to see some modernization of that.
I think we're going to get that old knowledge back
and we're going to see some crazy stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
And what I think is being prepared to by all
these different mythologies and these stories is is this general idea,
this general narrative, is being prepared and set forth for
some kind of end goal agenda. And I think it's
coming maybe in our lifetimes. I don't know. We seem

(01:35:31):
to be kind of getting conditions to a lot of
alien contact and a lot of you know, revealing of
some sort of species.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
That's that's we got that much heading towards us.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
What I'm saying is like, is like, you know, when
they come here, they're going to suppor all the ancient
history of all the cultures in society. Like for example,
this is why I straddle the idea I straddle it.
A lot of people are going to disagree with me,
but I stra this because we just really don't know.

(01:36:03):
And this is where it says in Genesis and God
said let us make man in our image. Well that
let us I can. I strall the idea that that
is the Trinity, that that is God. But then I
also straddle the idea that this is this some sort
of this this council or or or a creation from
God that was to do God's will. And you know,

(01:36:27):
because how else would so much of the church would
fall away if if we had you know, alien races
come here, yeah, you know, and and and show how
how they actually maybe did make us. I don't know, right,
I gotta just throwing this out there, but to where

(01:36:48):
it's like this whole onu Naki narrative, but it's it's real,
but it's also biblical. You see what I'm trying to say. Well,
here's the things works to understand both sides, right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Everything works with ranks, even the King of darkness, and
then you know, God's kingdom if you look at it too.
Even on earth there was like kings, you know, queens, princes,
stuff like that. In heaven it's I believe it's also
the same way, you know, like God is the godhead
of everything. Plus there's the counsel of God. You know,
even says you know in the Bible it talks about

(01:37:20):
the counsel of God. I believe God does work close
with the counsel that he has, you know, and these
things that we're talking about, I think that it does
have some validity to it, and to talk about it
I don't think is heresy at all, because it describes
the counsel of God in the Bible, and I do
think they had a role to play. They everybody in

(01:37:42):
a rank of an army has a role to play,
and we have to answer to the general, which is God.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
So I don't know, I.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Just like that, and I think that that's where this
this female figure of wisdom fits in. I think she's
just part of this counsel counsel God had as his group.
He's got his counsel, he's got like you said, he's
got his kings, his principal, his group. And I think
that there's you know, we know what the enemy does.
He tries to do the knock off version of what

(01:38:11):
God's doing. So I think there's not just one deceiver,
there's a group of them. There's several deceivers, you know,
of evil like Gadriel, Samyaza, Sami l ish Tar. It's
it's the opposite of the divine council, right, it's a
it's a it's a remix on on something holy that's

(01:38:32):
been bastardized.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
And even the the Assyrian, I haven't talked about him
yet today. The Assyrian's another one of these shadowy satan
like figures. Do you see in the Bible? Very very
suspect for a lucifer like being.

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
He they say the Assyrian founded the cities of Babylon
and Nineve. Well, those are the two cities where we've
been talking about today, loosely like Ishtar comes out of
Babylon big time, swinging hard, you know, and as she's
we see her in nine of the too. So it's like,
who if it's like that Assyrian figure comes in founds

(01:39:08):
these pagan cities then puts Ishtar over them as the
main goddess. I don't know how all that works, but
you know the Assyrian and that, you know. Even Crowley
talks about how he got his Book of the Law
from an entity in Egypt who was who looked like
the Assyrian in.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
His words, Yeah, you know what's crazy too, is he
channeled this from this angel, right. He claims this angel's
name was a was right, And there's other entities that
he's also had connections to as well, Lamb being another one.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
That's that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
Thing I want to I want to I want to
make a distinction they because when people think Iowas, I
think sometimes they think of that image of Lamb, Lamb
is the one that looks like an alien with the
Big Old Age Iowas looked like a a Middle Eastern
man of distinction. He looked like the Assyrian.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Okay, bro, I'm gonna make a connection here. Taylor shut up.
Listen listen. I love it though. I'm so glad Taylor's back.
Ladies and gentlemen, I love it, man, I love it.
So listen, listen, listen. So I'm a Disney annual pass
holder and my wife we go to Disney at least
once a week, maybe you know, three times a month.

(01:40:25):
But we went recently and we went to Animal Kingdom, right,
and we went to an Animal Kingdom. There's a section
of it, right that's called Pandora. It's where Avatar is. Right.
It's all that Middle Eastern kind of you know, Indian culture,
Hindu Avatar, right, all that kind of stuff, Condolini, all

(01:40:48):
that kind of stuff, right, I mean, in this culture
wrapped around the movie, is what I'm saying. James Cameron
even says that he based it off of this. So
we go into this ride. In this ride, we're taking
a boat and where we're going along this little river,
there's animatronics, right, the main animatronic that was there, which
it was cost it costed twenty five million dollars to make.

(01:41:12):
And the animatronic is singing this song right, well, this
the and and it's that Magi goddess in the movie
Avatar that has that special connection with a a Waw,
which is the female goddess, the mother Earth, because in

(01:41:35):
the movie Avatar, it's where you make you know, everyone
has that little ponytail that connects into everything. That's a
part of life, right, But a a Waw is a
part of that tree of life that they that they
say in the movie, right, that that you connect into
and this is where your spirits go and live forever
pretty much. But anyways, this animatronic uh female magi is

(01:42:01):
singing aa wah aa wah aa wah and it comes
from the movie. So it made me think, like in
the movie, in that Hindu religion, it's a wass is
I'm sorry in the movie nothing to do really, but
in the movie, the a wass is a female god.

(01:42:22):
But if you look at if you talked about what
you're making a connection to with Croley, that it was
a man. I can only see that there's like just
the spirit is like adrogynists, because the spirit's connected to
what I'm talking about, and the spirit is also connected
to what you're talking about. But there's two kind of
distinct persons that it's portraying, if that makes sense, which

(01:42:46):
makes me think of this duality. Yeah, behind it what
we're kind of getting into. I don't know if I
said that right, but yeah, I found it interesting. I
was like, oh my goodness, yeah, and it appears as
an angel. Okay, you know, yeah, God.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
Has so here's and this has been bugging me. So
I'm gonna throw this in here because I was couldn't
recall the divine council spot in the Bible, but I
think I found one. Psalm eighty two, verse one. God
has taken his place in the Divine council, in the
midst of God's little g gods. He holds judgment. How

(01:43:24):
long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked?
Give justice to the weekend? And it goes on from there,
but it references God's place in this divine council. He
sits among the midst of other gods. But they're little
g gods. And I think that some of these little
g gods rebelled, And that's the dynamic we're facing today.

(01:43:49):
That's the the root of this war we found ourselves in.
We were born into a war between these entities where
a lot of times we get caught in the crossfire
and we've been given their free will. We've been given
a chance and a choice to decide which side we're
going to be on. That's the way I see it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Yep. Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
Man running into the world full of wolves. Man, that's
paraphrasing off that the Bible verse. But we're definitely like
sheep under wolves, Like we definitely have to make that decision.
Who were either for God or against God? There is
no one between otherwise he's gonna spe us out of
his mouth. Can't be lukewarm, can't be like I'll serve
you know, maybe iwash this day and then like you know, yeah,

(01:44:31):
wah this day.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
It's just nah yeah, And I think it just helps
to like the name of the game today is for
me is know thy enemy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
M h.

Speaker 3 (01:44:43):
We're not talking about this stuff the church, modern day
believers are not talking about this stuff enough. In my opinion,
thank you just not having this and it needs to
be had.

Speaker 1 (01:44:52):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
You can you can go your whole life calling something
lucifer and having no idea what that means, or we
can go and get into the Bible and some of
these extra biblical texts that promote the Bible I believe
like Enoch does, if we get an actual name for
this entity, and along the way we can get a
clearer version of the story of what went down. Why,

(01:45:16):
why are we in this war? Why is their sin
in the world, why is their heartache? All this stuff.
It's like, well, get in here and you and get
your head around the seed war, and everything starts to
fall into place. It's funny too, because it's just like
it's almost like a job. You can get a job
at base level and always get the same amount of

(01:45:38):
pay and be complacent, or you can choose to move
up and try to do better and try to do
the best and get a higher pay. We have a
lot of complacent Christians that just want to just sit
idly buy and just have the barely just basis of everything.
Or you can be full out, use the spiritual gifts
that God gave you, use your physical gifts God gave view,

(01:46:00):
and just go hard for the Kingdom. And I just
I believe so much people are at a complacent spot
right now, and they just they.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Don't even want to contribute to the Kingdom of God.
They don't as long as they're getting to Heaven, that's
all they care about. And it's kind of concerns me
because I see a lot of these Christians. I deal
with a lot of deliverance. You know, God uses me
to deliver people of demons and stuff like that. And
I've through my experience and what I've seen, you know,
I see a lot of people who don't actually know

(01:46:31):
who the enemy is. And that's a problem because even
when doing deliverance and stuff, there's certain demons tied to
certain things and certain habits and stuff like that. You
have to actually deal with what's called the strong man demon,
and then you have all these other demons that are
usually you know, just kind of like aiding that strong
man demon. So it is important to know your enemy.

(01:46:54):
I like what you said, Man, know your enemy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:57):
That's well, that's crazyven That's I can see in my studies,
in my research and these entities, I see it that
way too, Like there's definitely a hierarchy. They have these
other smaller entities running around doing stuff for them. Yeah,
and you're saying, like what when you get when you
get in a room, And I've heard this with stories
of deliverance stories before too, where the entity will say

(01:47:21):
that it's Lilith they will actually use one of these
names like that are in the Bible, but it's actually
some sort of a spirit working for Lilith exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
They try to lie. See, they lie, kill, steal, and
destroy like their father. So it's just they will always
try to spin it too. That's why God even says, like,
when I'm doing these deliverance on people too, I won't
even talk to the demon. You're not even supposed to
talk to the demon because all they're going to do
is lie. That's what they're they're created to do. Like
you know, so if you're talking with them, you're not
gonna hear any truth. That's why you need to, you know,

(01:47:53):
have the Holy Spirit when you're doing this stuff, and
it's just you need to discern. You need that discerner,
the Holy Spirit discernment. Otherwise you're just gonna get your
head filled full of lies. You're gonna be constantly figure
out who's the enemy, what are we doing? You know,
like you're just gonna be lost, bro. You know, that's
why it's so important I have God. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
That's that's such a wild aspect, a wild way to
look at this stuff is through this this idea that
you've presented here, like just just your experiences with dealing
with these things out on the street, yes, man, And
that's so real. Like people don't even realize how real
this is. You know, you can be manipulated by these

(01:48:31):
demonic forces and not even know it, and not even
know it. You know, it's you have. That's why you
have to have a walk with God and you have
to strengthen it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
That's why I want everybody to have their own personal
relationship with God, because dude, if we're not actually putting
in the work. The Bible says literally study to show
thyself approved. You know, I believe we have to know
the truth, but not only know the truth, know our
enemy so we don't actually fall into the traps of
our enemy. It's just like war, bro, Like you know,

(01:49:00):
like you're not gonna just gonna go to the front
line and be like all right, let's go. You're gonna
study your enemy before you go into war. And you know,
you don't want to like go into a room if
you're doing like CQB in your room, you want to
know how many guys you gonna deal with, you know
who's the main target and get in, get out, And
that's it. You know, it's not gonna be you know,
here's here's a gun going in the building and just

(01:49:22):
start cleaning roasted You're like, no, screw this, I'm gonna
throw a grenade in that room. Look clear as much
as possible. Then we're gonna ce qbu and go in baby,
like you know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
And it's like I've seen people in the comments too,
and who will say like, oh, you're focusing too much
on the power of the darkness. You need to tim Yeah,
you're like, well, what do you I'm trying to do
something that everybody else is not doing behind pulpits across
the nation. Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Okay, it's not being talked about enough, bro, Like, dude,
name one hurt that you've been in that has talked
about what we're talking about right now. Oh wait, none
of them. I mean none that I've been like And
it's dude, People's souls are at stake. That's what we're
dealing with. That's why we created this show, bro. People

(01:50:10):
need Jesus man. We're living in deceptive times and people
are just not ready for any of it. And then
if us Christians do talk about it, oh, that's heresy,
that's that's that's absolutely garbage. You're of the devil. That's
it's that's what we're dealing with. Some of our own
brothers and sisters are shutting it down too. Question everything
on this earth and outside of this earth except God.

(01:50:32):
That's why, dude. That's just you know, I'm a punk
crocker too, like Bro, it's just like I question the system,
I question all that stuff. Something I will never question
is God. But we have to question why things are
the way they are, otherwise we're never gonna get anywhere.
We're just gonna believe what oh our father and our
mother told us, Like, oh, I'm just gonna do it
because everybody's doing it. Like, don't be a conformist, you know, like,

(01:50:54):
question everything except God. God's weighs are higher than man's ways.
That's what it says in the Bible.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
Yeah, and too, it's it's a lot of what the
en and by that, I've noticed what he does is
he's really good at blurring things, and he likes things
to be blurry, but he wants you to be satisfied
with your sight. Right. It's like, hey, I can still see.
I'm fine. And some people before they put that first
pair of glasses on. They don't even know that they

(01:51:21):
had any eye problems, like at all, right, right, they
don't even know that, Oh my goodness, Like this is
what you know, the truth or reality really looks like.
And I feel what we do too. Man. It is
you know, Tim, you're involved in this as well, with
with with your show and our show. Is we were
like at the doctor's office, you know, trying to get
a new prescription, and the doctor goes, is this one

(01:51:44):
better or before better? Worse? And I'm like better, And
we choose to be like or we at least choose
to stretch ourselves a little bit more than the average Christian.
I would definitely say that we definitely stretch our ourselves
in the conversations that we have because trying, Yeah, like

(01:52:05):
we're trying to get clearer, clearer, clearer, so things will
make more sense to us a little bit. And I
even think just at the at the at the foundation
of it all, I think we are making more sense
of our reality today with the cultures that have documented
history and and and and and our past, and we're

(01:52:25):
making it more clear to other people out there that
we're either a part of some other secular agenda or
narrative and they're like, oh wait, dude, not like the
biblical stuff is like spot on, you know, and they're
coming to the truth, They're coming to Christ and it's
it's important, you know. I'm glad that. I'm glad we're

(01:52:46):
having these kinds of conversations. Man, They're much needed conversations.
They take time.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
Yeah, I think so, it's yeah, we need to unblur
things because, like you say, the enemy likes things to
be blurry and and and that's what I see. I
see a lack of knowledge across the boards today with
this this stuff that's of a spiritual nature. It's like
our technological abilities have far surpassed our spiritual abilities.

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
Right now, my people will lack will Paris be due
to lack of what knowledge? I am?

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
Yeah, it's I mean, you can just see how how
how advanced this civilization is. I've seen it in my
life because I remember a time when there we didn't
have cell phones or internet. I definitely remember a time
where we didn't have internet, and that was and I've
seen all this stuff happened in my lifetime, and it's
wild to sit back and think about how far we've come.

(01:53:39):
But what's held in the balance. What's lacking in the balance,
I think is spiritual advances. And I know, like people
are becoming more spiritual now, like that's been a current
thing that's happening, but you got to make sure that
like the best way to get spiritual and know whose

(01:54:00):
side you're on. And and by that I mean you
know good versus evil, honestly, like you read your Bible
every day. That's the best way to do this. It's
a way to stay grounded and you learn all this
new stuff, all this stuff that I'm talking about today,
regardless of what you think about and whether you agree
with me or not, I got this from just reading
my Bible. Yeah, and I mean looking more into some

(01:54:24):
of the stuff of course that I see that looks interesting,
But all this stuff is Asheroth, Lilith star, It's all
in there, yep. And then and then I tag in
the Book of Enoch, right because I like that book.
I mean, I think my opinion is that it was
in the Bible at one point. I don't want to
get into why it's taken out because I don't really
even know why. But anyway, I think it's a good

(01:54:46):
extra biblical study. And it says talking about unblurring this
stuff for people. It says the name of this entity Gabriel,
and never hear anybody talking about it. And it's like
this entity was cursed to walk the earth. This emptyism

(01:55:07):
is among us. This isn't like one of the watchers
who's been locked in the valleys of the earth below
mountains or below oceans. Those those two hundred watchers they
got locked up. Are they still locked up? I don't know,
because I think at the end times they're going to
be released. But anyway, for a long time they've been

(01:55:28):
locked up. This entity has not. This mpity has been
roaming the earth.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
That is interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
Yeah, So I think it's good to know that, Yeah,
because you know, there's a lot I believe there's a
lot of these entities walking about too that kind of
get a little bit of free reign until Jesus comes
back and makes Neil.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
You know what I'm saying, right man?

Speaker 1 (01:55:49):
Well, Tim, dude, we've put in two hours of a
great conversation. Man, this is always an awesome time man
having you on. Please would you let the audience know
where they can find your show and where they can
support you the most? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:56:03):
Man, of course, Thanks Steven, Thanks Taylor. I really enjoyed
talking to you guys as always. Man, we'll have to
do it again. And yeah, actually I'm on every Sunday.
I forgot to mention this earlier. Every Sunday I have
a show over at Cult of Conspiracy. It's called Conspiracy Garden.

(01:56:25):
If you need something to listen to on a Sunday
or any other day, really, because it's up there, just
go check that out. But my main show and where
you can find me is six Centsory podcast, Spotify, YouTube, Apple, Patreon,
and Instagram. And again, guys, I appreciate you guys, Thank

(01:56:45):
you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
Yeah, dude, I love it every time. Man, So real quick,
before we go, Taylor's going to pray it out for
all the androgynist spirits that are around. You know, we're
gonna cast them out of here, soil and real quick,
Taylor to give a little show man of showed Tim
your new tat bro.

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
Yeah bro, so motorcycles, man, I told the guy like
punk rock, god and freedom and motorcycles. And this is
what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
To the camera, dummy.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
Yeah, move to the right. Oh here go, here you go.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 3 (01:57:21):
Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
That's crazy. That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
I know, right, it's pretty nice. It's probably my favorite tattoo,
to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:57:28):
Besides, yeah, he did a good job with it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
Man, that is epic, right on. Man, So Taylor, go ahead, man,
pray it out for us, and then we'll move right
over to the next segment. Folks, Bible, go hit me
and debrief.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
Yes, sir, all right, Father God, well just give you
glory on our praise think you that we can have
this platform to even talk about the things of you
and just to really dive deep and just kind of
get into your truth Father, in this world of like
a lot of lies being thrown around. I just pray
that you give us a wisdom discernment and all let

(01:58:00):
us not be deceived. And I just pray that you
continue to bless us and bless Tim and his show
and just help us to really just expose the enemy
and you know, kind of maybe wake up Christians that
you know, I haven't been able to ask questions and
really dive deep. I just pray that you, you know,

(01:58:21):
just give us the tools that we need and hopefully
we can make a difference. And I just pray that
we just cut off any any demonic spirits trying to
interfere with any of our shows. In the name of Jesus,
I plead the buddy Jesus Christ over all of our
viewers and all of us on our shows. I just
continue to protect us and guide us, Father God, and

(01:58:42):
in Jesus Christ, pray Amen.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
All right, jeez. I can never share screen again on
Riverside ever. For thanks rivers But man, hey, shout out
to Tim Constantine everyone sixth Censory Podcast. Check them out,
support them, go over there, like follow, subscribe notifications, all
the stuff over there. Help him out. Uh, dude's got
a great show. He's a wealth of information and uh

(01:59:07):
and research as well. You know, we this episode, we
really there's certain topics that are are are untouchable. They
shall not be died. But I think it's okay, just
just just stretch a little bit, you know, and and uh,
you know, people are probably gonna call me a heretic

(01:59:29):
or something, or they're gonna the hair russy stone him.
I actually am glad that there is no more stoning, right,
I'm glad that Crucifixion is outdated, Yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
I think we would have been next up.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
Yeah, yeah, but there's something to it, man, There's something
to the topic that he's getting into. There's something to
the topic of the adrogynist goddess spirit that that bounces
around to different people that have built and established cultural
foundations and also you know, governmental foundations. Right, we're talking

(02:00:07):
about John d the British Empire, We're talking about George Washington, right,
the United States of America, and with to understand these
people that have started these institutions, they have claimed and
have been proven to be deists, they have been proven
to be of the mysticism that pertains to occult knowledge

(02:00:32):
all this kind of stuff. And that's why we kind
of cover a lot of these things because it helps
break down a little bit of that other side, that enemy,
you know what I'm saying, right, our enemy, Yeah, it's
our enemy at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (02:00:44):
Yeah. Well, I mean, when the majority of people like
who started this country are into this type of stuff
and freemason stuff, we have to delve in what do
they exactly believe, why they believe it, And you know,
we need to be questioning these things. We can't just
be like accept and of everything that's going on. We
have to dive deep and steady, to show thyself approved
and really know what's going on, because I don't you know,

(02:01:07):
we can't be lost out here. We've got to question
some stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
But I always say this too, Right, is God the
one that brings in the anti Christ? It's like no,
in my opinion, and okay, God's in control of everything, right,
let me just kind of just just full disclaimed God's
and control era of everything. This is part of the
beginning and the end. Right. But my point is is
He allows that side of those adversaries to do what

(02:01:34):
they want to do. But there's an agenda that they have.
That agenda is to come here to proclaim themselves as
the anti Christ, but to deceive the whole world and
to have them worship them. Right, they want that worship
that these fallen angels, these entities, these principalities, powers, the darkness,

(02:01:56):
the demons, the devils, right, Satan, Lucifer, all of it.
It's just there is this other side that is an
adversary against God, and they really really want, at the
end of the day, want to be worshiped like God.
Satan wants to be worshiped like God.

Speaker 2 (02:02:13):
He wants to steal all the glory man.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
So you know it's a it's the ultimate counterfeit of
the truth, you know what I'm saying. But here at
the Biblical hit Man, we take out those narratives, we
shoot rockets in the sky, and we're bringing down UFO's baby.
Taylor is really fun man, You had a lot of
good questions. Uh, you're even tying some really good good stuff.

(02:02:37):
That glad to have you back. Man the background, many
bright eye, everyone thumbs up in the live chat down below.
Tell me how much you're excited Taylor is back. And
it seems to be like we can't get both of
you guys on. I know you're on, Jesse's on, You're out.

(02:03:00):
We will get the crew together, folks, so promise. There's
just been a bunch of hiccups of life stuff. There's
life stuff. You know, you had a trans transition to
another job. You had a no but you know you
had to adapt to a new schedule.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
Yeah, how you like to day the day? I love
the day. I feel like a human being again. I
don't feel like the creature of a night. He is
a children of the day.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
That's funny, man, oh Man, So I love doing episodes
with Tim He always kind of comes in rocks it,
kills it. But he he's a very humble, respectful person.
He doesn't have any malicious intent with the topics he
he gets into and talks about right and and he
doesn't come in and try to prove his point in

(02:03:51):
any way of arrogance or anything like that. He really
just tries to break it down through some of the
things that he's research.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
Independent journalism for sure. Man, he's diving deep. Does the research,
you know what I'm saying, does the homework.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
Well, that's what we have to be well, and that's
what we are. We are in a way, we are
journalists for Jesus Christ. We are journalists for the truth right,
for that the standard of the Bible. Like we we
are here to ask questions, to interview certain people that
may not be of the faith, maybe of the faith,

(02:04:24):
and we've had those people in the past. But we're
here to humble ourselves in a way to where we
build relationsip relationships with people, we network with people. But
we want people to see Christ in us. How else?
How else can we do that? You know, obviously we
could do that outside these doors of this studio. But
at the same time, inside the studio. We got to

(02:04:46):
bring people in share with them our perspectives and how
we see things biblically versus their perspective, right. Yeah, you know,
like sometimes we're going to have people that practice, you know,
some dark stuff and have them on the show because
we're trying to build a level of discernment not only
for ourselves but for their viewers as well, to kind

(02:05:07):
of put some puzzle pieces together, you know, like why
do these these things of the darkness function this way?
Oh well, once you start to notice certain things, then
you can start to really be aware of other things
that happen in our reality. And that's the biggest that's
the biggest goal that I'm trying to achieve with that.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
There's reasons behind why, you know, the occult does what
it does and why Christians do what we do, you know,
And it's just when you see all this stuff taking
place all throughout history, all this gnosticism and occultism, and
you know, we need to get to the bottom of
it because we don't want to believe the same stuff
that could be a lie. You know, we need to
seek the truth. We need to It's a narrow gate man,

(02:05:51):
and there's only one name under heaven, of which ye
so be saved, and that's through Jesus Christ, folks. Only
through that, nothing else we get to heaven by any
other name, any other god, because in the end, bro,
it's yahweh or no way.

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Yeah, seriously like that? Well, and you know what, man,
what really helps people maybe come to the faith is uh,
I'll say this. We need to understand what our nature is.
We need to understand that we are sinners in need
of redemption, in need of a savior. Now, we can't
save ourselves from this fire, folks, We we can't. You know.

(02:06:29):
The only only God can save us from that fire
through Jesus Christ. And you know, and we need to
understand that not only is it just sin that is
up that is it's almost like the adversary that lives
with us each and every day. Right, it's this, it's
this that we live in.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
Yes, exactly daily, Bro, We've got to fight it, carry
our across daily.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
And what's crazy is like, well, the normal man when
we have these kind of conversations like we're having right now,
they don't understand what we're saying.

Speaker 2 (02:07:01):
They don't understand that we have this podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:07:05):
That's why exactly so, And I think what the coolest
thing is that God's doing with this show is you know,
because I had this talk with another actually a preacher, yeah,
not too long ago, and he's like, why can't we
just use the story of Jesus Christ, or why can't
we just use the Gospel to save people? And I
was like, it is the number one thing that does

(02:07:25):
save people. And I I stayed by that because it's
what saved me. But I've also said that the things
that we do talk about, the things that the supernatural
aspects that we get into the alternative view from the
average Christian church down the street, we are bringing people

(02:07:49):
to the gospel. Like we are bringing people to the
gospel because there is truth in what we're saying. And
out in the world world right now, there's a lot
of tentacles stings, like like got tentacles all over the place.
He's got New Age movement, a little bit of that
little bit he's got and there's all these little truths

(02:08:11):
and all these little things, but it's not a full truth.
And he's bringing in all these people into this hive
mind to take them into the pit of hell. But
but but that's why we'k and I feel called to
do this, man, I mean, why going to be doing
all the work that I'm doing, if you folks really know,
But this.

Speaker 2 (02:08:28):
Is really putting some work.

Speaker 1 (02:08:29):
Yeah, this is a lot of work, putting his full
time jobs. Yeah, and I'm working over time at my
main job. Yeah, bro, But you know what, like like
God's put it on my heart just to just to
go harder, you know. And I might not be doing
everything right. I might not be doing everything perfectly. I'm

(02:08:49):
not a perfect person. I'm always gonna going to be learning.
And God's molding me and changing me. He's changing all
He's molding all of us through.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
This He's going to give out of ten every time though.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:09:01):
Yeah, you know, so like we're all learning, dude, where
everybody's learning, I'm learning. I'm not perfect. We're not perfect.
But hey, we're all on this journey together, and we're
all in this life and we only get one and
it's a short life. So we want to make sure
we're getting to the bottom of things and getting the
full truth and not just half.

Speaker 1 (02:09:19):
Truth, right hey man, brother, Well, folks, if you've if
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