TBH LIVE: The Continental Round Table| Biblical Cosmology-Giants/Nephilim/sons of God-Bloodlines

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Okay, we're here, gentlemen. Thank you so much, folks for
joining the show. Welcome to the Biblical Hitman TVH Live
The Continental. I named it the Continental, folks, because we've
got a bunch of hit men in this studio and
it's a playoff of the movie John Wick where all

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the hit men kind of come together inside that hotel
and they all have respect and they just don't kill
each other there, which is hilarious. But welcome, gentlemen. I
love all you guys. This is the first of many
for a roundtable discussion here on the Biblical hit Men,
and we're gonna go around first and make introductions, but

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But we're gonna go around and shoot introductions out and
we'll just kind of go clockwise around the panel. I
won't do myself because that's just taken up too much time,
but we'll start with you. Travis, go ahead and introduce
yourself and your channel and just shoot away as.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Only the technical best from me. By the way, guys, hey, hey, everybody,
my name is Travis Carpenter. You may have heard heard me.
I'm the son of Scott Carpenter. I am picking up
the mantle when it comes to Bigfoot and nefilm and
stuff like that. And uh, we talk about that, We
talk about DNA, we talk about the DNA study that

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proved that not only Bigfoot exists, but adds to the
whole Nephila narrative. And you can find me at the
Sasquatch Awareness Project on YouTube, or you can also find
me at the Tea carp channel, where I like to
do guns and knives and hunting and all that fun stuff.
So follow me there.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
All right, right on, So Harley will jump to you
next brother.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
All right, Well, at the time, I don't have a.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Harley looks like some sort of like Jehovah's Witness. By
the way, I just had to come on or news anchor.
I'm sorry, I love you, buddy. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I don't. I don't currently have a YouTube and
and I don't even post much on Instagram at this time.
I'm currently working on producing a great series of tapes
as well as some instructional booklets and some written material
as well, and I'll be putting that out soon, and
when I do, I'll probably go to marketing on social media.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
At that time. Right on, right on, Zach, onto you,
my man.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
All right, my name is Zach Lewis. I'm just pretty
much a small content creator. I talk about flat Earth,
biblical cosmo, biblical cosmology, naphylum. I get into all types
of conspiracies pretty much. Conspiracies led me to Jesus. Being
a doomsday prepper led me to Jesus. Every avenue I've

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ever tooken led me to Jesus.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Right on, right on, trebles on to you, my man.
What type of everybody?

Speaker 5 (03:38):
I want to thank the Lord before anything, if I
allow me to be here today, and I want to
thank every single one of you.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Follow me to enter your space. I have troubles. Garcia,
the host of Parent the radio podcast.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
I've been on this beautiful show before, but today I
have the amazing privilege of sharing my time and the
platform with these amazing gentlemen.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
And we are not small timer creators. We are now
the mainstream media.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
I like to say so hashtag look it up and
drop a fastle podcast on a spot that allows other
people to enjoy the show as much as I enjoy
making it.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
And thank you again Biblical hit Man for I I'm
gonna be here today. Thanks, good stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Love it, love it man, love it all right. Riley,
on to you, my man.

Speaker 7 (04:10):
What's up everybody. I'm rather from the Midwest Mythos podcast, Stephen.
That's for an invite to my brother h I gotta
say absolutely, love you everything that you do your show.
Thanks for inviting me here to be part of this
history and the making right here. You know, we got
all star lineup this evening and if it's anything like
last weekend, man, it's gonna be a good old.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Time of this evening. So I want to say thank you,
yeah man.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
And absolutely I want to piggyback off what Raley said. Man, Steven,
you don't give yourself enough credit. You run a great podcast.
Biblical hit Man is is awesome, and you're gonna do
incredible things. Thank you for thank you for letting us
join your space.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh dude, I appreciate it, guys, seriously, man, And really
it's this show would really be not nothing too much
without you know, the Lord overseeing the whole entire thing,
but obviously the great guest that he's blessed me with
and to be able to just build a network, and
not only the network with you guys, but also to
build the friendships with you guys as well. You know,
I really think that we are the component of the future,

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you know when it comes to the podcast realm, and
I think that we are changing the game as we speak,
as we see it today. And so but this is
gonna be a lot of fun. We've got a lot
of awesome people in the chat. Shout out to the
supporters right that just continue to influence me and motivate
me to keep pushing harder for this podcast as well.

(05:35):
Love y'all out there, and so well, folks. The first
topic that we're going to jump into, and this is
gonna be kind of hilarious because I'm sure we're gonna
be cutting each other off, you know, and it's a
remote podcast, so it takes a little bit of patience
to let everyone speak. I just wanted to kind of
cover that as well. But the first topic I say

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we just jump in to you, man, is biblical cosmology.
I got to see some of y'all's lovely faces in
person at Spiracy Con twenty five. Shout out to John
Pounder's Visual Disturbance and everyone else who made that event
very successful and a great time. It was an awesome
time to be invited to the event, and I actually

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got the opportunity, which was really less notice, to speak
at the event, So that was a lot of fun.
So shout out to those guys. But you know, a
part of that event is the topic of biblical cosmology.
I kind of like to talk about it and reference
it in that terminology because flat Earth I think it
gets too demonized nowadays. But biblical cosmology. It's something me

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and Travis were outside on our little break from you know,
just our being at our tables for twelve hours a
day there. But we were getting into biblical cosmology pretty much,
and it's a topic I enjoy speaking about a lot.
And so I guess I'll start with you, Travis, and
we'll just kind of shoot around. We'll just it'll be

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just free free air from there.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
So, guys, one of the things that most people do
not know about me is back in twenty thirteen to sixteen,
I was really big on Twitter. I'm a big Tennessee fan,
but also like I got known in the vall Twitter
sphere as like the flat Earth guy. So I have
been arguing biblical cosmology for about eight to nine years

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now on that platform. It's just not it's just honestly
something that I haven't spoken about. So I've argued with
it and gone back and forth so much with people.
And what I've noticed is when it comes to Biblical
cosmology is that people get very visceral with it, extremely
like it's a it's a flip, it's a switch that flips,

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and they just get so like like you're you're saying,
like I don't know, like you're calling someone bad, or
you're making fun of them when you say the Earth
isn't what they have been told. I've really really noticed that.
But I do think that Rob Sciba, the late Rob Sciba,

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did the most incredible job at bringing a lot of
people's questions to light and then answering them the best
way he could, and for me. He did a great
job of walking through those those things so much so
to my to where my family now, like, you know,
if once you say this to something like your wife

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or your mother and father in law, your family is like, hey,
I don't think the earth is exactly what they say
it is, and here's the reasons why, and then they
look at you like you have three heads. But but
I've gotten to the point where I've got my family
on board with this because it's like, oh, they say this,
but look at this. And if they say X, and

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why if they say, oh we went to the moon,
oh we did this, or did we did that? Oh,
the Earth is really like this. I look up and
I'm like, well, if that is possible, or if it's
supposed to be like like you know, curve, then why
shouldn't we shouldn't be able to see the mountains across
the way sixty seventy miles that should be impossible. Or

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I shouldn't be able to zoom in at with this
camera on these ships, but I can, Or when we
fly on a plane, we should be able to see
a small little bit of curvature because of the what
was it six inches per mile squared I think is
the math. And basically at about three miles it gets

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to six to six to eight feet under the curve.
At that point, I mean it's you start talking about
the actual math of things, and a lot of people
that believe in a curved earth they just don't. Their
eyes gloss over and they start making fun of you.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Definitely, yeah, go ahead. Bread.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Rob Skiba was instrumental in my awakening to flat earth
and giants and biblical all of it.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Pretty much.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I found Rob Skiba through a couple back channels, mostly
into conspiracies and just looking into biblical cosmology.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
And I like to do it.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
From a biblical standpoint because I try to base my
life around the Bible and try to do everything biblical
as much as I can. And just looking at the
authors of Scripture and seeing what the people back then
believed in their cosmology. Every single Near Eastern, every single
culture back then believed in a three tiered system of heaven, Earth,

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and a hell. They all believed in this. And then
if you look through the scriptures, the authors of Scripture,
they say it plain as day. I mean, a star
was fallen from heaven. You know, their star in our star,
our cosmology is different from what their cosmology is.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
So when we.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Believe that the Bible is reading, oh, this is a ball,
or actually I believe we're reading that into the text
so to speak, it.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Yeah, I have to agree.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
I think during the saturation and also the misguidance, the
pollution of Christianism and other religions around the world, what
they've done is diluted our intelligence and disconnected us from
their creator by controlling our time and also manipulating our
habits and infiltrating the.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Child's brain from the very young age.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
So when you'd say, oh, we spoke about the globe
Earth and then we introduced the flat Earth and their
eyes glazed over, it's because they have.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
Been worshiping comfortability the entire time.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
They made it into a god instead of actually taking
a five second of every day to go to the
search bar and do the due diligence and search it
up for yourself. So beyond this meat suit, there's also
a different level, different realm and also more intelligence and
duality that has been introduced to the masses for a
very young, very young age, and they have weaponized it

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against us.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Absolutely man from like a young age. So my kids
used to watch this like little show on Netflix. It
was like for for like one or two year old's
cocoa melon. And I remember one of the little songs
was there are eight planets in our solar system and
it's like these are these are one in two year
olds that there's just complete indoctrination into at that age.

(12:27):
So you nailed it when you said it's like you
start almost worshiping this solar system t esque. Uh, you know,
cosmology at just young age, at a young age, and
and and it's one of those things like you almost
you just have to fight it so hard to you know,
so hard, and you kind of have to give people

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grace because when you do start talking about a biblical cosmology,
you're talking about forty five you know, depending on how
old the person is, you know, that long of just
absolute indoctrination of them. But I do think, like Zach said,
there's a way if we can get people to open
up to it, man, they can open up to be like, Okay,

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everything I've been told about the world is incorrect. What
is the answer? And the Bible is the answer? Zach,
y'all think you said it just so so well man.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Thank you Roy.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
If I may add, guys, the father of learning is repetition.
I think lol Wayne said it better. I think repetition
is a father of learning. How do you learn the
APIs abcs when you were young through repetition and also
through song, And this is something that has been instilled
in us. They remove the pledge of allegiance out of
a very young age during the elementary school years wide
because they don't want you to have paid to be

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a patriot.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
They want you to be desensitized.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
They want you to worship yourself and worship self identity
and gender identification. They want you to be eliminated through
from all that. Then they removed cursive writing. Coincidentally, not
that I'm trying to shift through'll make it into a
political conversation, but do you know what else is made
in cursive The Bill of Rights?

Speaker 6 (13:59):
The constant two.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
My kid will not be able if it's not because
of me. They're not going to be able to read
their rights and any other thing. They're only going to
be able to do and believe what they're told and
what's been conditioned by the men or the elites, the
badlines facts.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
We even talked about that trails when I came on
to show a few weeks ago. I am the last
generation of people that went through school that learned cursive.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I have siblings that are two years younger than me.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I ain't learned it.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
Four years.

Speaker 7 (14:28):
Yeah, they didn't learn it. So fifteen years ago was
the last time they taught it cursive. That was the
last time I even took it. And they taught us
for one year, and we had to do enough of
it to we did enough of it. I can still
read it. I can't remember the half the letters in it.
But you know, everybody calls me the math. They'll teach

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you the math that's so limited. They won't teach you
Golden base show. They'll teach you only what two plus
two is it is.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
They won't allow you to keep moving on forward because
they won't let you attap that energy or that realm.
Then they'll start telling you. Then they remove Jesus Christ
out of the elementary school schools. Who do you think
is going to move in? It's not it's Satan, bro
If it's not, if it's not through a biblical lens,
if it's not God's, it's the other guys.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Well it's great, it's like it's like that saying too.
So I don't mean to cut you off hardly, it's
like that saying where you know, back in the Roman times,
it's like you send your child off to Caesar, you know,
expect him to come back as a Roman soldier.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Right, absolutely, Harley, I want to hear what you have
to say about it, buddy.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, that was a great point that I think that
you made, mister Garcia.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
You know, when you're talking about that their removal of
the pleasure of allegiance and the biblical teaching in school,
I think that that, of course is a disaster. And
as you guys said, repetitions how you learn. And of
course when you repeat a lie many times enough, everyone
will consider it the truth. And you know, it's just
foolish to think that you could be so so so

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close minded as to just, you know, just accept the
teaching whatever they teach you about the earth and the
shape of it and the cosmology of it all, because
if you understand that everything they ever told you is
a lie, well why would you think that the teaching
that they teach you, which is all horsecrapt about the
earth would likely be true? And everything else you can
then still accept as a lie, but not that one.

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We draw the line at.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
The shape of the earth.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
How foolish, you know, if you eliminate all the biblical
teaching that tells you exactly what the earth is shaped like,
the celestial bodies, and the movement of everything in the heavens.
It's listed there. It's written plainly, plainly as it could be.
And you know, that's just another example of the trillion
where they've taken pure obvious Biblical scripture and they've just

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either deleted it, twisted it, or just straight up light
about it. Are all three repeated it enough.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I think the one thing that really gets us Christians
into trouble is we really don't take the Bible literally,
you know, or we don't take it. I think the
great Chuck Missler said, we don't take the Bible seriously.
We think it's all allegoria's poetry, or it's this and that.
I believe the Bible means what it says and says
what it means. I think it's very foolish of us
to think we know what God meant to say. I

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think the ruler of the universe says what he means
and means means what he says. I don't go. I
never went up to my daddy and said, oh Dad,
you meant to say this, that would be I would
that would be very unwise of me to say if
I was a kid, And I think it's unwise of
us as human beings to say, Oh, God really didn't
mean that there were actually pillars of the Earth and

(17:33):
that it could be shaken and there was a firmament
and it was beaten out, and that the stars will
fall from heaven, you know, et cetera, et cetera. He
really meant to say what that we're really on just
a globe flying around space? I think not.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Well, even looking into the really looking into the actual
belief of their of what the world believes their cosmological
worldview is. It's it's a religion. I mean most of it.
You know, every single space mission they ever went, Artees, Apollo,
all these you know, they all use these falling.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Gods, looking all these gods. Yes, yeah, looking at.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
The creation of NASA with l Ron Hubber and Jack
Parsons were doing in the deserts out there. It's just
everything that has to do with this belief system of
the heliocentric model is just it's a religion because you've
got to believe it, you know.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
And not meaning to take over. But it's funny when
people think that, oh, you know, T. Karp, you're you're
too woo wooed, you're too out there, you're too talking
about this paranormal stuff. No, this NASA folks and the
people that did this, they were out there, they're believed
doing all this black magic, this sex magic, all this stuff.
They are the ones that that that's where they get

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their power and that's what they believe in. So we
are the ones that are kind of if anything, we're
the ones that are more like whoa like anti that
these you know, science these what we call, you know,
uh masters of science or or or or fathers of science.
Many were. They were into all this crazy stuff that

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people would say, we're just kind of weird. As Freeman believe.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
In in facts.

Speaker 7 (19:13):
I mean l Ron Hubbard, Jack Parkson's the founder, like
you said, the founders and of all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Dude.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
They were out in the middle of the desert on
so many different drugs, doing so many different things, trying
to bring the moon child in, yes, trying to bring
usher in, essentially trying to usher in the time of revelation,
all that kind of stuff, trying to bring the anti.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Christ, all that and.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
Rockets and NASA was just a side little tangent that
came off of this, Like I love how you phrased it.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Man Like.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
Everybody thinks we're the crazy ones for talking about all
this stuff, but like you know, all of the hashtag
look it up, it's a trebles all that says.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Man Like.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
If you start looking at this stuff and you'll see, like, no,
we're the same ones. We're the same ones. Bro.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
It's in use of the lies from day one, never
questioning a single damn thing. There's nothing more insane than that.
You're insane before being curious and trusting what God wrote
in the Bible and died on the cross for you
to recognize, understand, love and except forever.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Hmm.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
You if you grab a glass of milk and you
pour it into it a pool, you're gonna dilute it.
If you pull, you want to erase it forever. You
throw it in the ocean. It's what's gonna happen. It's
gonna disappear. That's what's happening. To our brain, to our
to our respondents, to our to our connection with God,
and just to put into perspective, I have a three
year old daughter, and she sees any rainbow and she

(20:44):
knows exactly what it means in today's age. I'll get
TBq plus whatever. It's my job, man, make sure that
she recognizes. Yes, that's what I was gonna tell you.
It's my job to make her knowledgeable enough to recognize
the rainbow as God's creation and God's promise for a
better life.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
You see what I'm saying right.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
The repetition of these colors of this narrative from a
very young age has corrupted our baby's minds. My daughter
is only three freaking years old. Bro put them into perspective.
Let that sink in.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah that knows man, Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
It already stems from from the book that Steven brought
a conspiracy con Edward Brene's.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I totally forget the It's a crystallization of public opinion.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
There you go, right there, You forcullly keep feeding these
people these lies. It eventually becomes the truth, you know,
And it's looking yeah, but looking back before you know,
to get people to looking to flat Earth or biblical cosmology.
Just look at what NASA and the governments of the
world were doing before they started shooting stuff up in

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the space. They were literally dinging holes down as far
as they could to see like that the way that
they were doing it, it looked like that they realized
that we're in a cage and we need to get
out of here or figure out the boundaries. So what
did they do. They went down to an Ortica and
they shot rockets up in the space that was out
of island. They shot rockets up up towards the firmament,
and then they dug as far as they could and

(22:14):
they only reached about eight miles. Russia eventually won that one.
But once you realize that that's what Rob Skieper really
pushed that on. It really showed that, like look at
their actions of what they were doing before all the
NASA stuff, and then all of a sudden, the NASA
stuff came out, We're going to space, We're sending satellites everywhere.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
It really shows and the profit off of it very beautifully,
not only in military applications, but look what they do
with Jurassic Park and all the movies and Star Wars
I myself.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
I am a star wars freak, Bro. I live, breathe
and breathe like freaking Vader. I am. You see what
I'm saying right like I freaking looked. They made so
much money off of it, Bro, and they squeeze it.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
They've milked it so far out that children believe that
we live in a planet that revolves around their son
six hundred and sixty thousand miles away, while it's cheesing itself,
while it's also expanding into nothing.

Speaker 6 (23:07):
It's re tardeted, Bro.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Well that's all. That is just a testament to how
silly people are. If you believe we're on a rah
with no purpose, no point of existence, no creator in
all Charlie, you know there's no point of any of it,
then there's a reason why everybody behaves the way they do.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
It's just because there's a reason why to shoot up,
because the reason why to consume.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Mm.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
Absolutely amen.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
If it's magic the you know, we're trying to say
that the earth, like the Lord said, was made for us,
and we are not necessarily the center of the universe.
But God made the world the earth for us. God
made this realm for us. But their cosmology is you're nothing,
You're a spec you're dust, You're nothing. And it's funny.

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It's like, Okay, we're trying to tell you that the
Lord loves you so much that he made this realm
for you, this space for you. But the devil and
that cosmology they're trying to say you're nothing. And yet
Christians are like, well, I guess I'm nothing. I guess
I'll believe what science tells me. It's just I like,
looking back, it's like, my gosh, people are just so brainwashed.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Man Wells believes that.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
They're religion ain't Christianity. They're a science believer and their
religion is science, and the of science is only the
rejection of Jesus Christ and all the truth of yahweh.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, you know it's crazy too write if we think
of the Biblical cosmology, the idea that we're not going
to wrap God's word around a secular view, right, which
I think is what a lot of the Protestant movement,
just a lot of the Church in general today is
wrapping the Bible and trying to merge it or adapt
it to the secular realm so that it kind of
like makes more sense in the world copy of it. Yeah,

(24:55):
but it just doesn't it just doesn't mix. It's like
water and oil, right, won't mix at the end of
the day. And what's interesting too, is like thinking about right,
biblical cosmology. Right, let's just say, like it is absolutely true,
then it makes sense for us humans to have dominion

(25:15):
over the earth. But if you put it in a
different view, if you put it into this idea of
what you know, astronomy and cosmology, you know, talks about today.
Right with that, we're in this ever expanding universe and
it's huge and there's got to be life out there.
It automatically makes us think that whatever else is out

(25:35):
there has dominion over us. And that falls into the
fallen angel narrative, right, Like, that falls into the fallen eloheme.
Right like that falls into them being the ones with
more highly advanced technology and they're the ones that are
going to come here and help us save ourselves from ourselves.
You know, it's this whole idea of them building us

(25:56):
up for an end goal narrative, which I think is
probably at some point in our life. I Mean, there's
so much propaganda out there. There's three I out lists
that's coming, it'll be here in November. No one knows
if it's a comet or a rock, or if it's
a spaceship or whatever. You've got all this propaganda flying
all over the place, but it just goes back.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
To marketing for space watch a movie come out right after.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
It's just propping it up for another movie about an
astro that's gonna crash, and just repeating the same old things.
It's like those two guys, and I don't want to
sorry if I interrupted you, but I gotta bring some
freaking fire in here. It's like those two guys that
killed their parents in Beverly Hills, right, they were about
to get released from jail and get a slap on
the wrist after what fifteen twenty years in jail. If
they would have released those two brothers out of jail,
they had books, They had Netflix seriess and movies ready

(26:41):
to go right off the bat to make them money.
Not only to give them propaganda and make them rich,
but also push the narrative that if you do drugs
and kill your parents because you're gay and by it's okay.
You see what I'm saying, right, it's just propping them
up ready, for you to consume true hard facts right there.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
That's a damn fact. I don't know how many times too.
I've just scrolled my phone. It seems like every week
they're saying there's another asteroid that's coming, and I can't
stand it.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
Have you guys looked into the whistleblower, uh from I'm
sorry the name escapes me. L Ron, not el Ron Hubber,
Verner von Braun. She had it was it was his
made pretty much. He was taking care of him right
before he died, and he gave her this knowledge that

(27:36):
pretty much everything was fake in space. They could never
get the space, they couldn't build something big enough to
get the space. Now, this is Verner von Braun, the
head of the rocketree for NASA, and he told this
lady that the first thing that they were going to
push is asteroids, and then the second thing it's going
to be aliens. And when these visitors show up, that's

(27:57):
the endgame right there. And look what they're pushing. Like
he's said nothing but asteroids, asteroids. It's part of the play.
It's it's all come down.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, So shout out to Brass Knuckles, Bible Club and
everyone else that is in the chat. This is the
first question that I've seen. I want to bring this up, says,
how do we reconcile these pictures from from satellites that
are supposedly well past the Earth, such as the voyager.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
There, they're not actual pictures, They're paintings. The actual pictures
are dots. The actual pictures are these little digital dots.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Man.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Like, once you realize that every picture that you're ever
seeing of something is is an artist rendering, it's a painting.
It's literally digital, it's it's made up. The only thing
that they've actually ever seen is like this little thing
that looks like you're looking at a light through water.
It's it's it's nothing of what of what they say

(28:55):
it is. So when you see these pictures, like and
once you do digging, realize literally go look for yourself.
Don't believe what Tacarp says. Don't believe what Stephen Bidley,
what anybody says. Yeah, I stuck with it up. Yeah
if if I'm full of crap, okay, but I'm not.
You like, like like all these guys can back it

(29:16):
up because they've done it themselves and they've said, Okay,
this dude, that's telling me, this Earth is flight is crazy.
I'm going to go prove it wrong and they can't.
I guarantee you everybody on this panel has had that experience. Well,
you know you couldn't even you could never land on
a planet that's spinning and rotating and flinging around like
they say Earth is. How could you come down and

(29:38):
land on it? Then if it ain't.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Still you would overshoot the runway every time this story.
Are in the same location every night, the sun and
the moon rise and set and go in this orbular
pattern every day and it don't ever change.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
How How is it that the first man that stepped
on the moon stepped on the moon landed on the
moon before he stepped on it, but there was a
camera there already. And then you put on the flag,
the American flag stuck on the on the moon, looking
pretty and all.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
But then there's no atmosphere in the moon. Put in
the colors feed, and.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
The nose grabs the landline phone and he can communicate
back and forth with five second difference with no Wi
Fi on the no d itself.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Bro we dial up in the nineties, pro how you
guys got a landline or the way to the moon.

Speaker 6 (30:24):
Bro makes no senense.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
What what What really messes with me when it comes
to like that that stuff is if you if you
listen to their science, is that it supposedly plus three
hundred degrees in the sun and minus three hundred degrees
in the shade. So you're telling me that they were
able to heat and cool something that could handle through

(30:48):
plus three hundred and minus three hundred with a car battery. Like,
come on, dude, like I want it. I want that
HVAC system by the way, if they can make that,
it's it's it's yes, man, it's completely bs. And what
you're saying is that whatever camera that they used, by
the way, which was film, also was able to withstand

(31:10):
that degree of temperature. I don't know about y'all's phone,
but if it's thirty to thirty degrees, my phone's dead
like that. But all these all these lead batteries made
it through minus thirty three degrees or excuse me, minus
three hundred degrees or plus three hundred degrees. Their batteries
would be dead in a second. And that's supposedly you
know what they ran everything off of. Come on, guys,

(31:31):
I mean it's.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Wait and we can't replicate. We can't replicate that technology
because we lost it, lost it. That's exactly their definition.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
Are Are you guys ready for the greatest conspiracy of
all time?

Speaker 6 (31:46):
That that goes.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
Back to the original OG question, what's up with these
pictures from the Voyager? All right, I want you to
close your eyes. Everybody listening, close your eyes for a second.
Go back to depending when you were the late eighties, nineties,
early two thousands. Imagine that roller rank that or arcades
you want to as a kid, and it's dark, low lit,
and you're looking at the floor, and there's all these

(32:09):
weird designs.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
All right, you got those designs in your head.

Speaker 7 (32:13):
Now, take any Nassa picture you've ever seen in your
entire life and put them side by side and tell
me it's not the exact same thing. Those weird too,
and they all look fake, preconditioned, different parts of the carpet.
They got one long strip of this carpet, and they're
just like hyper focusing on one corner and moving the
camera over each time.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
Because that's all.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Games you used to go play, Atari and all these
other ones, right, shooting what stuff in space?

Speaker 6 (32:37):
You got a and blasters and you got what's the
car what's that called?

Speaker 5 (32:41):
The other one with that with the roaches in in
in space from the future, the one with what's called
star Star.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
Come on, guys, help me out here.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Trek, what's that Star Trek?

Speaker 6 (32:51):
Is another one? It's another Starship Troopers, Starship Troopers. Bro.
You see what I'm saying, right, But I think it's preconditioned.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
Bro, all those shapes that you're talking about on the carpet,
they left it in your brain cell that when you
go to sleep, you're dreaming about it, and then subconsciously
you're always believing that the globe is rotating in the
space in a vacuum that's spreading into nothing.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah. It makes me think too, like like if if
we're so focused on the stars so much all the time.
It brings back like the hero cult right where ancient
I think it was Buddhists or whatever, but even like
in their culture, you know, heroes would die and they
would think that their spirits would go up into the stars.
We could even see this in you know a few

(33:32):
other books talking about golblacki Tepe and what that was
used for. But basically this case, this was a part
of like astrology where you know your spirit went out
and rested with the ancestors aka like you know, the
the fallen angels, but where you have this idea of
of this, this this worship and in some way shape

(33:56):
or form of what's above us rather than you know what,
what's right here in front of us. You know what
I'm trying to say, It's it's crazy, it's crazy. It
bows my mind because people literally worship their imagination more
than what is objectively true in their reality.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
If that makes sense, if and I agree, and to
and to get back to the guy's question again, it's
it's what what you're seeing with those pictures again is
just an artist rendering. And it's it's sad once you
start realizing that and realizing you've been lied to when
they say, oh, this is a picture, when you dig
down deep in the details, it's it's an artist rendering

(34:37):
and it's really it's it's I'm asking you to to
to test me on that, to prove me wrong, and
and say, T Carp, you're an idiot. And I hope
you I hope you find I hope you find that
I am an idiot. But unfortunately, on this I don't
think you will. But but but but genuinely prove me wrong.
Go find the original source of the thing. You have

(34:59):
to look multiple places. If the original sources NASA, look
down and it will say artist rendering. And that's the
sad part about it.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Going back to Stevens point, the worshiping of the stars,
that's not nothing you they're actually now amplified and amplifying
it and allowing not allowing you to see their rituals.
Back then in the day, you would have priests. For example,
I gave you the presentation of the omens, how they
would worship all these gods and really worship themselves to
tap into the algorithm of the earth. And I'm not

(35:29):
going to jump into that, but you know how they
would worship and have specific days on specific on the
summer solstice, on the winter solstice, on the fall equinox,
and all these specific days and moon cycles so that
they can do and perform these rituals.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
And they would have only the priests doing on certain
times of the year.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
Now they have everybody doing it with these special devices
called phones using liquid crystal technology, where you keep looking
at the stars. You didn't evenly got to look up
anymore to worship the stars. The stars are there influence
you as called influencers through all the mainstream media, giving
you all the BS that you consume on.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
A daily basis.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
If you look at it, we're doing the same thing
that they were doing now as a.

Speaker 6 (36:07):
Massive, more efficient and more quick way in manner.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
It's just they reconditioned it, repackaged it, and then they
resold it back to you in a mascot.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Right right, and right back to like with what I
was saying with the hero cult, right, like they thought
that these heroes, these warriors, right, that their spirits went
up with the ancestors. Well, what are the heroes? The
heroes are a another counterfeit, you know, model of what
the Nephilm were, Right, The Nephilm were heroes, They were

(36:40):
men of renown. They were these these you know, powerful
men in the world that were super highly respected, feared,
and you know, at some point we're at a at
a superior hierarchy over everyone else. And isn't it so
funny that in this hero cult, right, these heroes and
only the heroes really, because they were worthy enough to

(37:00):
go up with the ancestors into the stars, that they
would go back to their fathers, right, because we know
in the Bible stars are also referred to as angels.
So it makes me think that whole idea, you know,
is is wrapped around Genesis six.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Wait, hold on, Steve, and for other people, do you
guys are under the under the impression that the stars
just by themselves are are all falling? Is that it
seems almost as if no, no, No, it's more like
it almost was like I was getting confused there with
some of that.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
No, it's more like I think that stars can be
represented as angels biblically, but I don't. I don't know
for sure which ones are falling, which ones are fixed
or or of the heavenly realm. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Well, because if they're falling, they ain't still in the sky.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah exactly, it said, right, the stars.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Because about the fallen angels, they fell from the heavens,
you know. And but but.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Then it kind of gets into like that that sixth seal, right,
like that sixth Seal or the area in Matthew twenty
four with then the you know, the sky rolls back
like a scroll, and then the stars from heaven fall
in that idea, which would mean that, you know, is
it the actual fallen, which is Revelation twelve, is happening
at that moment and didn't happen prior to that. It's

(38:28):
it's up for interpretation. You know.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Well, when I read that, I interpreted that that's the
host of Heaven coming back to finish the battle. Yeah,
Heaven coming back with the glory of Jesus Christ riding
in on horseback with eyes of blaze.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
I take that position as well, because it's all miss
Sweet That's explained very clearly.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
It's all the stars. So I take that position as well.
And I also and I also will say I also
will say too. You know, there's there's plenty of of
of of times in the Bible where it just describes
that since the fallen abdegated and left their throne, that us,
the sons of God also referred to as the Sons

(39:09):
of God, are risen up to the place of those
angels and take the seat that they.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Left, right right, Yeah, No, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
And so you know that's an interesting thing too, because
even in Genesis six, you know, with the sons of
God that fell, they were angels that left their first estate.
But we are also referred to as the sons of God,
offspring of the living of the Living, everlasting God. So
we too are then sons of God, but we aren't

(39:40):
the sons of God who rebelled against him. We're the
sons of God born into the flesh in the earth
to fight against them and take back right right the
dominion that was handed over in the situation with Adam,
where he he created Adam to own the earth and
have dominion, but he gave that up the same as

(40:01):
the angels did in the heavens, and then Satan then
ruled over us. So then it's our job, then, as
the fallen ones, to rise up against him. And that's
the seed war that's described there in Genesis three fifteen.
That the seed, the word seed in Hebrew is zara,
which means descendants, issue progeny, children, sons and daughters. And
he says, I will wage war. There'll be enmity between

(40:24):
my children and Satan's children forever mm hm. And we're warring.
And the war started with the first Satan's children. Kan
Kane was the first murderer. All the blood of the
innocent prophets from able to Zachariah shed spare between the
horns of the altar by the race of Cain.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I wanted to bring I wanted to bring this up
before we get start to get pitty like that the
giants and stuff like that, and the seed wars and
the blood lines the verse that kind of makes me
think of the Biblical cosmology model is where when Christ
comes back, every eye will see him, you know, to

(41:05):
where that just only makes sense to my mushy brain
if we are on some sort of model that is
in a plane, you know what I'm saying. So I
don't know if you've guys ever thought had a thought
experiment on that, but some people ask that question.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
You know.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
I was actually talking to somebody about that the other day,
and I didn't think about it from what you just said,
like from the Biblical cosmology perspective of we have to
be on a plane that allows for that. But I
also was just talking to the person because the person's
getting new into faith, and I was like, well, you know,

(41:47):
God's omnipresent, omnipotent, and there's there's so many different parts
of the Bible where people are just moved, where God
just moves somebody now I'm not trying to what you said,
but I you know, I believe God really want us
all to see him at one point, like when that
day comes, that moment comes, you know, he could make

(42:08):
it to where he's just present. Can this sounds weird,
but the control of mind to perceive what has happened,
and or he could move us all to one location
to where we could view this.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I don't know. It's just some level. It's a thought experiment,
you know what I'm saying. So it can it can
go multiple different ways, you know. But it's like is
it because sometimes some people would even refer to that
verse and go, oh, well, it's the technology that we
have today. Everything is going to be on TV screens,
everyone has a cell phone, everyone's going to have the
ability to you know, see this. Because I'm trying to

(42:45):
like throw in some of the the aspects of you know,
the was it geocentric model? No? Yeah, so but it
all goes back to the bloodline stuff. Man, it's all
that war of over that narrative. You know, there's a

(43:08):
there's there's multiple there's there's not multiple, but there's two
narratives right that are getting set up. And I think
there's a narrative that's pushing towards the anti Christ and
that whole ideology and what that religion is going to be,
you know, backed off of. And then there's you know,
the truth that rests off the side of it. Unfortunately
in the world that we live in.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I think Harley hit on something that a lot of
people don't talk about, is how we gave up dominion
over the earth. I think Chuck Missler does a really
good job of talking about how that dominion works is
you know, everyone asks like, well, why does Jesus, Why
did Jesus have to become as a man? Well, and
why does a man have to sit on the throne

(43:49):
of God? Like what? Like, what what's this all about?
I believe that the seven Sealed Scroll it talks about
in Revelation is actually a title Deed to Earth. I've
had it described as that because it has you know,
riding on the outside and its seals, and basically what's
happening is Jesus is popping the seals off of the

(44:10):
scroll and basically and basically taking claim of the earth. Well,
why does it say no? You know, John was up
there and he said, he wept, and he said, you know,
there was no man on heaven or earth, in heaven
or earth that could open the scroll. Well, they couldn't
open the title deed because it wasn't theirs. They weren't
worthy enough to it. Well, why does a man need

(44:32):
to do it? Well, the earth was given to men
and we and we had dominion over it. But we
gave that up. I think Harley hit just phenomenally on that.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
We gave that up and put us in a similar
state of all fallen individuals. We're all born into a
fallen state, and there's the requirement of a resurrector. And
it was told to add him. He said that I'm
going to come through pure Israelite stock, through your descendants,
to redeem you and all of the children from you.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
That's in the Book of Adam and Eve.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yea, it is in the book, which you know. I
don't have any problem preaching out of the Apocryphon, and
I would do it in my church.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
And he tells him five and a half days, and
then Adam thinks it's really five and a half. Yeah,
he thinks his days, and he gets it all messed up.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
It's a it's a good read.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Stuffs fascinating it is.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I haven't I'm not familiar with that that book yet,
but I should. I should probably try it out or whatever.
That's good. Yeah, I think this. Maybe maybe you sent
it to me in a PDF or something back in
the day. I can't remember. I don't know. I obviously
didn't get into it.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
I try to read everything I can get my hands on,
and anything biblical extra biblical, I've read it.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah, And I mean, when we're talking about the bloodline,
you know, conflicts, there would obviously be some sort of
war over God's word, you know what I'm saying, absolutely
to where I forget what verse it is, but you know,
it's like cursed anyway, you know, curse anyone who takes
or you know, removes or adds to this to this word. Right.

(46:15):
So it's it's that to me, explains that there's a
possibility to you know, manipulate the truth in some way,
shape or form, you know, But the truth is there.
We're supposed to turn over every stone, We're supposed to
seek these things, right.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Search the scriptures, the secrets to the heaven have been
granted unto you, but unto them, that has not been
granted he says in the latter days that all these
things will be brought to light that have been covered
up by the enemy. We all recognize we're in the
latter days of Jacob's trouble, and it's being real to
us clearly with this communication in such a way as
a perfect example of that. Andrew Price also too has

(46:52):
to return, because he states very clearly that he and
his kingdom he'll rule over and of course he's the
king of the cause the heavens, Earth, hell, and the
rest of it. And he'll come back, and he'll return.
And I believe that that's the millennial reign, is the return
of Christ and Eternity, where both Earth and Heaven, it
seems are are both then home only to the to

(47:14):
the saints, and saints is a Latin term that means
believing offspring. So the children, sons and daughters are the
most high God. Yahweh, whoa boom they bombed. Father, he's
our literal father. And that's why Satan is called the
father of the enemy in John eight and Matthew and

(47:37):
throughout the rest of the Bible from Revelle or from
the beginning to end, but book D the bookend, he says,
you're of your father, the devil. So he's made it
very clear. Satan has literal children in the earth. Those
children murder Jesus Christ. He said they would, and they
did and he died. So every one of you understands that.
It's written on the third page of the Bible. And

(47:58):
at the end of the Bible it says that we're
going to be overrun, and uh, I want someone else.
I don't want to be toughing.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Well, isn't it crazy too? Like ever since you know,
Christ was born, like ever since there was the signs
in the heavens, you know, Satan's always Satan was coming
after him from right at that point, you know, I
think it was King Hrad or something like. He was
trying to find him and seek him out and seek
him out early. That's what the enemy does. He seeks
him out early.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Man, he tries it, just like with the Pharaoh in
Egypt and the same thing with Herod and you know
what I mean, they try to seek him out early.
But to pin off of what Harley was saying, man,
I thought I thought it was it was excellent. Man,
it was excellent. What you said.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Bron Caine is of the wicked part right off the bat.
Satan's incarnate child murdered Abel, the incarnate child of Christ,
in the innocent blood of the Prophet, from Zacharia to
Abel was there between the horns of the altar, at
the hands of the Pharisees and the Fhagycees and the
scribes who had taken over the Sanhedron in that day

(48:58):
and since Christ to death and yelled, his blood be
upon us and our children. His blood be upon us
and our children. Year of your father. The death is
the fig cursed ya hootie, seed of Caine of your father.
The first murderer, Kane was the wicked one. He identified them,
so they crucified him for it, and the apocryphal books
identify them as a race. It says their origin began

(49:22):
to hear, and ever since then they have to manipulate
the word, infiltrate the churches to eliminate any chance of
somebody telling the truth of their racial origin and racial destiny.
When Christ says you brewed of vipers, you race of
snakes generation, he tells them, how shall you ever escape
being condemned to hell? Ye are from below? I am

(49:42):
from above where I go to heaven. You can never
follow me, he says. None of them go to heaven.
He says, their spirit is the spirit of Satan.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
You know, the the idea of the serpent seed, which
I mean, I guess I straddled the idea a little bit,
but it's it's growing on me a little bit because
it because you'll, you know, everyone to go well, you know,
angels can't angels can't marry, they can't have sex. But
then that that subscribes to the set tight you know,

(50:15):
Genesis six idea, right, So so I kind of am like, okay,
well I don't subscribe to that. So I have to
kind of be a little bit open to the fact that,
you know, maybe there's laws here on Earth, right, like
when they leave these heavenly spaces. Right for example, when
you look at job and you see that Satan is
going to and fro in and out of the Earth

(50:35):
and he's able to go up to heaven and be
amongst the angels, I think there's laws when it comes
to the location of where you're at. You know, it's like,
for example, we can't go and we talked about earlier
in the show, like space travel is really hard. Why
because we we are from here, so but if you
are from that outside dimension, you can adapt to the

(51:00):
like if you're from the fourth dimension. So if you're
in a cube that's out that's outside of another cube, right,
which basically means there's a cube inside of a cube.
That outside cube can make contact and still adapt to
the inside cube. But that inside cube does not even
know that the outside cube exists. So there is no

(51:21):
that the laws change, if that makes sense, you know.
And another thing too, Right, how did Jesus come into
this world? Like it was a supernatural birth between God
and you know, a human female. So I can only
kind of, you know, be curious of the idea even
more and more that the serpent syed thing might might

(51:44):
be valid.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Right, Why would Jesus Christ say, year of your father
the Devil. The reason you don't believe me is because
you believe you do not belong to God. They don't
belong to God. They're not his children, they're Satan's children.
And he invented hell for their souldier to be forever.
And he says, I died for all of Israel. We
don't taste death. He created hell for them, and that's

(52:07):
where they'll go.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
I've looked into this theory a lot. Have you, Harley,
have you ever heard of zen Garcia?

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Yeah, I check out all the stuff. He was pretty
good about it. Joy Pugh's pretty good about it, Ratherend,
Julian Potter Gale's great about it. Bertrandell Comparey is wonderful.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
Wes c A.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Swift, These are the greats.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Yeah. Yeah, I've listened to them quite a lot, especially
about the serpent seed. I've I was on board with
with the serpent seed. But so do you believe that
can they be saved?

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Absolutely not. Okay, fallen angels aren't saved in neither of
the offspring. That's the reason why sodom Ingemorro was destroyed.
That's why the flood came, and that's why it says
that God's going to return and destroy all of those
who are impure. It says that Noah was saved because
he was pure and his genealogy, his generations.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I think tous On that, no this is good.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
We're stretching here, baby, we're stretching, and this is the continental.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
So I'm pushing back a little bit. So I don't
think that the Pharisee Sadducees were were nehl of offspring.
I don't I there Areites.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
They'reites because in John eight they said, Jesus said that
if you believe in Me, you will never be a slave,
or you will be set free from slavery. And they said,
what do you mean, We've been a slave to no man. Well,
if they were Israelites, then they would have been enslaved
three times. It would have been slaved in Babylon. It
would have been enslaved left of the exodus of Egypt.

(53:45):
So he says, what, I know, you claim to be
the seat of Abraham, but if you were, which you're not,
you'd be like Abraham. I know you claim that your
father is I, but it's not, and your father is Satan.
He identified which one they came from, and he says
where they're going, and he says what they did and
why they're cursed eternally.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Okay, So you're saying, so are you trying to say
that the Israelites that we talked about in the Bible,
they're not the real Israelites?

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Is that what Ynagogue of Satan's right? You have stolen
the identity of the heirs to the promise being the
seed of Abraham through the Isaac Jacob. You know, the
man Israel. Israel is the descendants of Jacob, and he
and everyone knows that Israel was in bondage. And so

(54:37):
when the Edomites tell you we were never in bondage
to any man, well, he tells you. So they identified
themselves and then Christ goes further to do that.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Go ahead, Travis, So you're yeah, so yes, So I'm
just I'm just trying to wrap my head around what
you're saying. And I apologize, Harley, so forgive me. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Great.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
So you're so you're saying that Edomites are are you know,
children in that phalem, which hey, I can follow a
little bit there, and they're unable to be saved, period.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
And the sentence God said, I hate Esau and love Jacob. Right,
so question shall they ever escape being condemned to hell?
They are from beneath I am from above where I go,
they cannot follow.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Okay, hold on, so Esau. So in your theory, Esau
could have not been saved period, even though he was
one hundred percent human. He was the brother of Jacob.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Here's a brother of Jacob, and he lost his inheritance
because he intermingled with two of the of two of
the Satan seed in the earth. He intermingled with nephel
and women and had children of Satanic blood, leading to
that Satanic descendant line that murdered Jesus Christ and our
descendants of Cain, which Jesus Christ says clearly. Matthew in

(56:01):
the Book of Matthew, they referred to as the quote
unquote children of Hell quote children of Hell. So their
children they're physical.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Versus said, so I can look that up. I haven't
heard that.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
I believe that's in Gosh. It's towards the end of
one of them in Matthew in one of the chapters.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Sure, I'm just I'm just trying.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
You can have a direct line.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
It's definitely in their Harley. I got a question from
sorry bro, real quick problem. So I I agree with
you on everything that you're saying, because I was. I
believed in the serpent Seed wholeheartedly until the Truth community
kind of twisted the serpent seed thing into becoming like, uh,
for color, for skin, you know, like if you're you're white,
you're not you're not there, or if you're black, you're

(56:46):
not there.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
They kind of muddied the water with it.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
But I I ran into some verses that I had
problems with myself with the serpent seeds.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
You know Adam, it says that he was the father
of King in the scriptures in Genesis, and then.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
It also says that Adam is the father of Kane.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Well, I think it says. I think he says he
knew or.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
Go ahead, trouble and in the in the meantime, while
they're hashtag looking up and open.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
The wicked one, Adam is not the wicked one, the
wicked one of Satan.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
I think at this point while they're looking up their stuff,
and we're going to bring that back just to emphasize
on Harley's Harley's message here, uh, I think it's in fact,
the entire time they have been obsessed with hacking our
DNA and infiltrating all our genealogy.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
They try to enhance us with this propaganda.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
With the with the I want to say, the weapon
that is transhumanism from being inside out because we hold DNA,
because we hold memory and injecting them injecting us with
gb Jabbi's like, because we can't mention that on YouTube
and every other stuff and incorporating foreign cocktails of medicines

(58:07):
and different things into our bodies. Homone hormone what's it
called that hormone technology to make us the opposite sex
and all this stuff that is corrupting our DNA and
then also controlling our habits and then in the future
taking us to hell.

Speaker 6 (58:23):
So they are obsessed with.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
With they are they are crisper and soon to be
upgrades into the future. And the fact that you know,
there's there's nanotechnology that they want to merge with you
know humans where which I personally think it's going to
bring in some sort of not only is it going
to be able to detect your body activity data, but

(58:46):
I think it's going to also promote you know, eternal life,
right because I think that's what they really want to
wrap this stuff around. If you think of it, you know,
there's one hundred and fifty years ago, you know, one
hundred and fifty years ago you died. You died. Was
there nothing that they knew what to do? Then CPR
got you know somewhat someone just start punching on someone's
chest and they came back alive. They're like this works.

(59:08):
You know, now we have today in our world, we
have defibrillators pretty much in almost every business, you know,
depending on the code of the state that you're in,
you know, to where now people think when they go
to the hospital, everything is going to get fixed. So
we're in a progression to that state of eternal life,
if that makes sense here in the fleshly world, you know.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
But it says right here in the nineteen twenty five
Jewish Encyclopedia. This is in the Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume five,
page forty one. Quote edom slash esau is modern jeury. Quote.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
Now here's the thing. Here's the thing when it comes.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Written in their own encyclopedia. Yesaw in his descendants. But
I'm the Edomites are the synagogue of Satan. Let me
go further.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
So here are real? Is it all right? So hear
me out real quick, Hold on, Harley, I muted you
for one second, brother, so real quick. I think it's
important to understand this is that humans give words meaning
and so like. This is something that also troubles me
with the with the etymology aspect of a lot of things,

(01:00:23):
because people give different meaning to different words in different
periods of time. Like, for example, what did we see
that took place in twenty twenty, right or twenty twenty one.
They change the definition of you know, what V means
pretty much, so so in each generation they're always going
to change a little thing here and there. So I

(01:00:45):
follow you, though, I follow you, and I apologize, you know,
forgive me for for mute you. But I just wanted
to get this point out there. When someone says something
way back in the past, it doesn't necessarily mean it
what it means today, if that makes sense. But I
get what you're saying. I just wanted to make that
point out. There's that human beings give words meaning, and unfortunately,

(01:01:07):
like I wish everything was wash, everything was fixed, you know,
to where all these words never had their meanings changed,
kind of like when you know, we name an animal,
that animal's name stays the same, but it differs from
other things in encyclopedias or you know, glossaries or definition

(01:01:28):
books or whatever throughout history. It'll it'll it'll change over time.
But but I follow you, I get I get it
what and I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
And I want to bring up this quote just to
point that out because that's a good point you made.
And of course the word became flesh so we're not
going to deny the words in the Bible. And Jesus
Christ said exactly that the word edomite is is It
says here the terms you comes from the Greek word edomite.
So rather than from Judah, son of Israel, the man

(01:01:56):
who was once called Jacob, the word Jew comes from Edio,
which is the Greek word, which is a hellenized, reversionized,
rewritten word of Edomites. And the eye is pronounced with
a J sound because the letter J did not exist.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
I found that verse, Harley, Are you ready.

Speaker 6 (01:02:16):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Genesis four? Genesis four, and Adam knew his wife Eve,
and she conceived and bear Kane, and said, I have
gotten a man from the Lord. Now I understand if
you read in the Aramaic targem, it does not say
that it is totally different, and it does say that
Eve actually slept with Sam. I l I understand that

(01:02:37):
I have read that. But just to re establish it,
this is the Septuagint. And Eve knew, and Adam knew
his wife Eve, and she conceived and brought forth King
and said, I have gained a man through the Lord.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
She has acquired a son through the Lord.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Right, she but Basically, it says she knew like she
like her, and Adam had came. Now now my now
my argument with you, Harley, is that like that when
we're when you know, we have our father, our father

(01:03:20):
in heaven, like that, that's our father. He's not our
physical father, but he's our spiritual father. I believe again
this is this is my theory. When he's calling, when
he's calling out the Sanhedrin, they're they're making fun of
Jesus basically saying, well, you're you're a you're a bastard.
You know you don't have a daddy. Your mother was

(01:03:41):
a whore, and you know, you know you don't have
a daddy. And he says, well, I'll tell you about
your father. Your father's the devil. And that's it's it's
kind of that argument that your spiritual fathers the devil,
not necessarily their physical fathers. But I I love the literalism.
I love the taking the seriously that you have. I

(01:04:01):
hope you know that I'm not arguing with you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
My brother.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Adam has a son. It says that he bore Seth,
and Seth was to his likeness, and then he goes
Adam Seth entire genealogy, Cain his children, separate genealogy, separate genealogy, cursed,
completely separate. How does Cain have all of his own people?

(01:04:27):
If he is not of Adam, he would be in
Adam's bloodline. The entire Bible revolves around understanding that it
is in fact a literal thing. You can't spiritualize it.
Children from Hell, Zara and hebrew Is descendants. That is
the word seed. I will put war between my descendants
and Satan's descendants. And the seed war began immediately with

(01:04:51):
the two separate descendants of different fathers. And it continued.
And that is why they say all the righteous prophets
blood was shed at the hands of the race of Cain,
all the way from Abel to Zachariah. Spare between the
horns of the altar, he identified them of your father,
the first murderer. Cain was of the wicked one. And

(01:05:15):
in the tears and midst the wheat, it says, every
seed not planted by my father will be rooted up
in casting the lake of fire. Again, seed seed, seed, seed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Right, But doesn't that like correlate with you know, Daniel,
and as far as you know that that iron mixing
with clay right where.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
They're mixing their seed with ours and creating abominations.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Right, But I would think that, you know, they would
have to come here and be here.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Did they not travel down to Sodom Ingamora? In the
story with Law and the Male the male men in
the city pounded the door down, said we want to
have sex with you. To the angel, what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
What I'm saying is it's that last kingdom. It's like
it's that iron and clay, right, if you're talking about
what you're getting into with that that period of time
that's way before even the Babylonian Empire.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
So what I'm saying in the beginning, from Abel and
Kin till the end, there's two separate seed lines, and
it says the Lord of Hosts will come down and
it will all of the all of the children sewed
in the field by the wicked One.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
So I had this conversation with with Brian from demon Erasers.
So shout out to Brian from demon Erasers. You know,
he gets into the fact that you know that there
are a possibility of this, you know, Nephilum kind of
walking amongst us, right. But he also and I've had

(01:06:43):
this conversation as well with Joel right from Free the Rabbits,
where we got into the idea of you know, Nephilum
being being able to be redeemed in some way, shape
or form. But he brought up a verse that was
it resonated with me a little bit, and it's Mark sixteen,
verse fifteen, and says, and this is Jesus's words, right,
He says, go into all the world and preach the

(01:07:05):
Gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized
will be saved, but he who does not believe will
be condemned. So so what I'm saying is is I
think it's I follow you, and I think that there's
there's a lot of great points that you're making, But
I also think that it's important to not put God
necessarily in a box to where it's like, for example,

(01:07:28):
you know, Jesus came and he kind of like, you know,
put away with the law. But but then he was
the law. How does that make sense, Well, he's the
law maker, so hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
He didn't change the law at all. He only redeemed
us from the curse of death for transgression of that law.
He said, I could not to replace nor abolish a law,
but to fulfill it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Yes, right, right, But I guess what I'm trying. If
you can kind of get what I'm trying to say,
just try to take what I'm saying a little bit
more spiritual than literal. But what I'm saying saying is
is I think that he's the ultimate Big Meetch. You know,
he's the ultimate Rick Ross, if that makes sense, not
comparrying God to Rick Ross. But what I'm saying is

(01:08:11):
is he's the he's the lawmaker. If he wants to
change something or do something, you know, he can he
he can do that. That that's his position. So if
he if he also thinks that, you know, in this verse,
you know, because it says every creature and then that
word creature actually it means like every piece of living life,
you know, then I can only literally take that and go,

(01:08:33):
you know what, there's a possibility for redemption for things
that may be mixed or whatever. So go ahead, Travis.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Yeah, and again and Harley, I follow you. I just
we still haven't given me the answer to that genesis
for one that Zach read out and I read, it's
like he's literally saying, you know, if we're if we're
saying there's this, there's a seed war between and I agree,
and I think there is. But if we're saying Cain

(01:09:02):
is the seed of Satan and Abel isn't. It doesn't
say that in Genesis for one, that's my that's my problem.
That's my problem with that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
And John, is it not? Is it not work?

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
What about in Luke when they list all the children
and it says that Adam was the son of God,
Seth was the son of Adam, And at no point
was Cain in that list, because he has a separate genealogy.
And the Canaanites, the descendants of kin ward with the
Israelites in the entire book, and they still are so
much that they murdered God when he came in the
flesh to redeem Adam's family.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Go ahead, Travis, I still think that you go by
the law of first mention, And the law of first
mention is that in Genesis four one he is a
from Adam and Eve. Did he choose the wrong path
by sinning? Yes, he did, and his families decided to

(01:09:59):
go away from God, and then they started mixing that seed.
But I don't believe that Cain originally was mixed. That's
that's Travis's Travis's thought, I'm willing to be wrong by
the way.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Well, well, I like that, I love I love it,
and I like that. Steve said, you know that, you
know you don't want to put Christ in the box.
And in no way am I trying to do that.
But rather, let's take the ultimate authority on what Christ
will do. And quote Jesus Christ directly, and he says,
I come not but for the lost sheep of the
House of Israel. And he turned to the Jews on
Solomon's porch and it says Jews, and he said, you

(01:10:34):
Jews are.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Not my sheep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Well, and they still don't believe in him to this day.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Well, it's because it's because of that, right, it's because
of that context of that. They did not believe that
he was God. They did not believe he was the
I Am.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
He did not say in the Bible, if ye be Christ,
then you're Abraham seed. And the Jews said that Abraham
was their father. And he said, if Abraham was your father,
that's why the genealogy is important, that it goes both ways,
and there's an evil blood line and it chosen blood
line and they're at war.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
That just puts everything in a god man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
I feel like it sounds respectively hardy. It sounds kind
of like, uh, black Israelite. Well, well, what I'm saying
is it just sounds like, for example, if you fall
under the circumstances that there is no salvation for you,
but there are there is salvation for the whole world. Like,

(01:11:33):
so we have to kind of bring these ideas.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
He doesn't say there's salvation. He says there is that
when that time comes, that He's coming to all those
who are not his sheep.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
John john S John three seventeen, man right for God,
for God came not to Well again, I'm saying law
first mentioned, my brother, we get you gotta go by
law of first mention? What does he say first? And
then he clarifies? But what does he say first? John
three sixteen. You know, for God sent his son into

(01:12:07):
the into the world. I can't even remember it now.
I'm so sorry. I apologize. That's terrible. I can't rememberize, guys,
I'm reducing that note.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Do people think that Adam and Eve were naked and
embarrassed covering their private with a fig leaf? Because she
just ate an apple.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
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Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
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Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
I just wanted to bring that up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Okay, I appreciate that, man, And again, like we're all
we're all brothers in Christ here.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
You know, like I don't think you know the fruits
of the spirit is this is the spirit?

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
Baby?

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
You know what I'm saying. I think we should at
the end of the day, I I kind of go
with what like Jesse says sometimes, like we think we
know everything, but at the end of the day, like
we only know what what our mushy brains can like really,
but I mean, I follow you. I follow you guys,
and I I you know, I I I think it's

(01:13:24):
it's okay to straddle certain things because a lot of
this stuff can be mixed up in mixed match with
allegory and literal and what Jesus really meant and all
this other kind of stuff. But I follow you, Harley,
I really do, Zach. You wanted to say something.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Yeah, so I just got one more point, and just
to let you know, it's it's hardy, Harley.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Sorry, I didn't want to get it wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:13:45):
Harley.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
I totally agree with you, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
I I read the whole entire air make Targum the
Palestinian Pargan as well. I have zen Garcia's book Looseifer,
Father of Kane. I believe this stuff wholeheartedly for years
and years, and then I and into these verses, which
some of them we mentioned, also Genesis four, and also
if you continue on with Genesis four, it says, but

(01:14:10):
under Kane his offering, he had not respect, and Kane
was very wroth, and his countenance fell. And the Lord
said to Kane, why why art art thou wroth? And
he said, why art thou countenance fallen. If thou dost well,
shalt thou not be accepted? I mean, if he's if
he's going to be accepted, if he does well, if

(01:14:33):
he's the if he's a serpent seed, the actual seed
of of the devil, why would he be accepted.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Why would he have been cursed and sent away from
his family? And then God give the commandments of all
of his children the Israelites to never literally said yes murder,
and he was also cursed with indignation because he was
he was, which John says.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
This is from Selena in the chat. What's up? Selena,
thanks for tuning in. She says, I think you're conflating
two ideas, the serpent seed and potential redemption of serpent
seed line genealogy through repentance and believing through Christ Jesus.
I agree totally with Harvey. She said, it is plain

(01:15:18):
for all to see. But I think this is where
I don't know if you guys understand like the dispensational
view of these ideas or whatever, to where you kind
of look at something through this window, then you look
at something through this window, and then you look at
something through this window. But it seems to like change, right,
it's it's like when you're window shopping, you look through

(01:15:39):
this window here and you're like, Okay, I'm not saying
God changes, but I'm saying that definitely, the the meanings
of certain things change. Like we can't be in a
way like how the set type view where they word search,
they go to the New Testament and then they bring
that to the Old Testament when it's it's in a
totally different time period. So I think I think that's
where maybe some things might be getting mixed up. Maybe,

(01:16:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Are you trying to separate the New and Old Testament?
Because the Book of Hebrews is written in the New Testament,
and the saints that are spoken of are the New
Testament people, the believers of Jesus Christ, and again means
believing offspring. He's our father. Also, it's important to note this,
Why is it that kin would have a completely distinct
genealogy entirely if his actions created a different gene pool,

(01:16:28):
if you would have a whole family line because he
had an action, that doesn't make any sense. He has
separate genes, so he has a separate genealogy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Yeah, fair, no, no, But but did you see what
I was what I was meaning with you know, I'm
not saying. What I'm saying is I think there's certain
things that are interpreted because of the time that it's in.
You know, like if I'm a first century Jew, or
if I was even a Jewish person, you know, in
three hundred BCE, I would let job interpret my understanding
what Genesis six meant by sons of God rather than

(01:17:01):
you know, what the New Testament says of the sons
of God, because it's changed. It's those who believe in
Jesus Christ, because he's the first bigott the son, right, Like,
He's the first son of God, and those who believe
in him become the sons of God. So that's my
point is like where I think that, uh, there's certain
periods of time because I think what you're bringing things

(01:17:21):
up from the Old Testament, where for example, like what
happened in the Garden and then.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Kane was of the wicked One is written in the
New Testament by John Right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
But what I'm saying is is, you know, the whole
world was destroyed, right, the whole world was destroyed with
flood with water and all that kind of stuf.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Are you guys under the impression that the entire world
was destroyed during that flood.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
You think it was a localized flood.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
It was a localized flood. The word is arits, which
means localized regions, specified land.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
And it's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
I can't go with you that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
I don't know what you guys have. You got to
search your scripture. Let's well, he showed up the bathtub.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
Did people?

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Did people filled it up like a bathtub? Did eight
billion people come from the descendants of Noah, who it
says were pure in his genealogy? If they're pure in
the genealogy, they're all the same, the same people, same
gene same races, same race.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
I've blaid out, I've blaided out on many podcasts how
Nephlom can come from from that. It says Noah and
his three sons are pure human, never says anything about
the wives being pure human. I've laid that out before,
and I apologize, Harley.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Noah pure in his genealogy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
They're all human, but the wives weren't. Weren't and the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Outside they intermarried outside of their own people and violated
God's commandment against inner marriage, and they pitched their tent
towards the directions of those people, and they took wives
under them, and eventually they had inner marriage between them
with the Amites, but then intermarriging in with Fath and such,
and that corrupt did the gene pool of the Semites
the sentence of shim okay And that's what on the

(01:19:07):
flood was all this intermingling that occurred prior, and that
intermingling led to a corruption. Do you think that every
single person in the entire world was corrupted in their
genealogy except just one man and his wife or was
it the people in that localized area, which is what
the word arit says, and it's been mistranslated as to

(01:19:27):
the whole world, which has been mistranslating the Bible many times, because.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
The real word, how can you prove that it's been
mistrans order can you could just look.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
At look at right next to it when it says
that the flood covered let me and are written there
in Greek, which it was translating, and it says arits.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
I think what's what's interesting too is I think I
think Jude actually gives us an idea of of how
this Nephlin idea, these giants came back you know, after
the flood, right, because it talks about in Jude that
gets into you know, the angels that left their first estate, right,
the angels that left their habitation, right, they came down,
they made it with women, right, and then they were

(01:20:09):
chained in the darkness, right. And there's a certain amount
of angels right that were chained into darkness. But then
it says right after this says in like manner, was
Sodom and Gomorah talking about fornication obviously, that whole concept
of that sexual act. And then it was also talking
about where you know, they were actually having fornication with
strange flesh, which could be this another idea where maybe

(01:20:31):
it pushes the cryptid you know idea, or pushes whatever
these other ideas to where they were trying to make
some sort of you know, genetic cssfool hybrid whatever. Right.
But I think that it kind of alludes to that
idea that this was maybe the second incursion. I don't know,
that's kind of my thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
What do you think when they say strange flesh as
they do in the Bobbin, when they use the word strangers,
it's always a mistranslation of the word, which is going
to be either knocker or enos.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
I think it's me. It just means other flesh. It
means other flesh because you know, how.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Does the Israelite stock, which is why it was there
written into their law not to enter marry outside of
Israelite stock. They had to keep the gene line pure,
which Noah had done, Which is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
What I'm saying, is is I think is.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
Stephen, do you believe that second incursion happened like another?
Ain't an incursion with the angels came down after the
flood which repopulated the Nephelin.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
I mean, it makes me think again, I don't. I'm
not arrogant or dogmatic on a lot of things, purposely
because I think when we get into these kind of topics,
it's just like a cat chasing its tail. It just
constantly you keep trying to find the answer, but really
it's so hard to really put your finger on a
lot of things. There's there's some speculation behind it, but
I think that what what was mentioned in Jude makes

(01:21:54):
me think of of that there were angels in Sodom
and Gomorrah, and it makes me think of what Harley
said earlier. It made me think of like Hey, you
know there was not one that was righteous. Why because
there was probably a lot of you know, I mean
sexual acts that were going around which were sharing DNA,
because you share DNA with the person that you sleep
with at the end of the day. So I can

(01:22:16):
only make me think of and plus two, right, Abraham, lot,
you know, they ate with angels, and then they chased
after them, and they you know, they they were there
angels present in that whole kind of narrative.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
There seth and what happened in Sodom and Gomora from
the heavens and boiled him, and what does it say
is going to happen in Revelation? The exact same thing
is written nearly verbatim.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Because it makes me, well, it makes me think that
the angels will come again. Right, It's kind of like baseball,
like three strikes, you're out. They know they have one
more strike left in a way in to where they
That's why I think there's a lot of preparation with
the with the predictive programming and the conditioning of aliens,
and this idea of these assenting masters or so on

(01:23:01):
so forth, of that idea where they're going to come
here and they're going to partake in life with us
and then they're going to mingle with the seed of
man once again. If that makes sense, right like, it
would be that last that last try, If that makes sense.
I don't know if you guys follow with what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
So you think that if they intermingled with the angels,
then that would make them corrupt, but not if they
intermingle with the angels children who carry their genes in bloodline,
who are in the earth.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Well, if you if you go by the logic that,
if you're going with the logic that you talked about
right soldom and can right like God destroyed everything there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
So if God you mean that none of them could
be saved because none of them are righteous because they
had mixed their bloodline, meaning if you mix it, you're
not righteous.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Yeah, it's a it's a it's an interesting topic, man,
I mean I I again, go ahead, go ahead, Zach.
It looks like you want to say something. Riley, you
have a stroke. Okay, I'm good. I'm that's regular face.
It's great.

Speaker 7 (01:24:03):
Yeah, I'm just I'm sitting back taking everything in like
like I says, Man, I'm just it's un passionate topic.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:24:11):
Well, and I'm sitting there and I'm like bumping through
the scriptures for everything says. I'm one of those people
I have to sit back and like look and think
about what I'm gonna say before I say something, because
regardless if I agree or disagree with anything, I always
end up saying something stupid. So I'm just sitting back
and I'm listening, and I mean, got you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
I'm taking points to everybody, so real quick, Zach, I'm
gonna let you close it out with with the last
thing that you want to say, and we're gonna get
ready to wrap it up here because I've got a
recording after this one as well. We've hit the hour
in thirty mark, So Zach, I'll let you finish with
what you got to say and then we'll pray it out.
If anyone else wants to try and close on something

(01:24:52):
that they wanted to put a bow tie on, real quick,
just make it short and we'll get ready to shut down.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
Yeah, with the an incursion thing, I Rob Skiba always
talked about the Second Incursion, and if you actually read
in the Book of Enoch, it talks about how Michael
pretty much is watching what's going on. To the fallen
angels that pretty much already got judge bound and buried
because of the sins that they committed on Earth. And
Michael is trembling in fear. Now, this is Michael, the Archangel.

(01:25:21):
I mean, he's top dog up there other than you know,
the Godhead. But he's trembling in fear of what's happening
to these fallen angels. So personally, I don't think there
could be a second I think there could be a
second incursion, but I don't think that they would be
dumb enough.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
That's right, No, I respect, I respect. I'm with that.
You know. Again, I'm not dogmatic on a lot of
the things I talk about. You know, I'm dogmatic that
Jesus Christ came here in the flesh, died for me,
a w rentful sinner, and I'm in need of a savior,
and you know, the Holy Spirit lives in me. Man,
And so you know, I just work on trying to
build my relationship with the Lord and each and every

(01:25:57):
day and try to be fruitful in the spirit each
and every day, and just try to just grow as
a man, a husband and father, all that kind of stuff. Man,
So anyone else does anyone have one last thing they
want to kind of just drop real quick before we
shut down.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Yeah, I'll say one super thing after everybody else.

Speaker 5 (01:26:16):
Okay, guys, I just got to say I want to
thank you guys, very every single one of you for
I'm going to be here today.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
It's been good.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
I learned a lot and I seen the passion behind
you guys, and it was a privileged sharing in the
moment and the platform with amazing people that you guys
are you guys and every single person that engaged on
on YouTube.

Speaker 6 (01:26:34):
So thank you again.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Yeah, I'll go ahead. I'll go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Tea carp yep, Yeah, I just want to hit up
Genesis like seven, like talking about the flood. If you
guys can hear me, it says, you know, basically, the water,
the water prevailed exceedingly upon the earth, and all the
high hills that were under the whole heaven were covered
fifteen cubits upward. Did the waters prevail, and the mountains recovered,

(01:27:02):
And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both
foul and cattle and beast, and every creeping thing that
creepeth upon the earth, and every man, and this is
this is Genesis seven. This is nineteen twenty twenty one,
that whole chapter. This is King James trying to go
back to as far back as I can physically read it.

(01:27:25):
So you guys can you guys can look that up.
But that's why I believe it's not localized. I believe
it is a you know, a whole earth flood, and
my reasons being is biblical there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
I totally understand that. And I would like to point
out this thing with Noah's ark. He was instructed to
bring two of every kind, and he was instructed to
have that and have that ready for after the flood
everything washed away and then he could get everything, you know,
reconstructed and start back up, so they know, we'll go

(01:28:00):
out and grab all the animals and get two of
each from the whole earth. Or did he grab what
he needed and his children needed to start up their
restart civilization in that land that was cleared for them.
Another thing that's important to know is the term man.
Some people might not like this, but I don't care.

(01:28:25):
In the first page of the Bible, it says when
God was building everything in that when he was creating
all these things in the cycles of creations. The word
is mistranslated even days. It's eons in Greek, which in
these cycles. So in these cycles of creations, it says
on the sixth day that God created them male and female.

(01:28:47):
God created them male and female. They were created on
the sixth day, and that's on the first page of
the Bible. On the second page of the Bible, it
says God rested, looked over his creation, and he was
done creating. But there was not a man to till
they ground. Here was not a man to till the ground.
So he had to bring forth Adam, which is where

(01:29:08):
the word man was used for the first time and
the only time up until then. If they were created
male and female on the sixth day during the creations,
then Eve would have already been there, so they weren't.
That was a separate creation. And those are the people
that Cain goes out and interbreeds with and builds a city.
For there were so many people when Cain got cast
out that he had went found wives and built a

(01:29:30):
whole damn city. Because it wasn't just Adam and Eve.
Adam and Eve were were brought forth into the earth
after the creations of those people that were male and female,
and those people that were male and female is a
word called enosh and nockri, and ncri means those not
of the raceline of Adam, and enosh is the word

(01:29:52):
that's used for him there, and it means mortal, mortal
and unable to be saved. They're not of Adam's lineage,
so they cannot be saved. And God says in the Bible,
Yahweh says, my flock is Adam, and he says that
I took all of Adam's children when I formulated the
earth and before that, and I counted them up who

(01:30:15):
would be my children? And I took my portion of Israel.
So his portion is only Israel, meaning there's people that
are not his portion because they're not Israel. And Israel
is the genealogy. The descendants, sons and daughters of the
man Jacob surnamed Israel and only them. And that is
why it is also written in scripture that ye, if

(01:30:37):
you are to be Christians, that ye are of Abraham.
And that is why the Edomites who always steal the
identity of the heirs according to the promise, are called
the Synagogue of Satan. Those who claim to be of
his and are not in July, that were never enslaved,
that were never in Egypt, and are the quote unquote
illegitimate children of their father, the devil. Jesus is not

(01:31:01):
of the devil. Jesus's children are of God. Jesus's people
are of God. Satan has his people and his children
they do not belong to God. And Jesus Christ is
the one who said that who is God? So I
wouldn't question the authority of the ultimate creator of all
things heaven and earth, who allowed for the creation in

(01:31:21):
this bloodline to rule for a time, which is written
in Obadiah and in Judges and Judges two two through
twenty eight. It gives you the exact reason why we
have been overrun by Edomites. And then in Genesis, or
not Genesis rather but in Revelation, it causes the cap
on that and tells us what the final result is
going to be because they've overridden us, and that we've

(01:31:44):
allowed that because we have forgotten who we are as
the descendants of Abraham, and we've allowed them to steal
our inheritance, which is what Satan wanted to do, steal
the inheritance of heaven and earth, which is why his
children do the exact same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
It's that simple, all right, Zach. You want to finish
up and say you're blessed piece here or no, I
think you were talking about the Preadamite theory. Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Absolutely, Even in textbooks in America up until the nineteen
forties there was books for all the children in the
schools in the public libraries that said Preadamites, and they
were taught about the races on the earth prior to Adam.
This is not a mysterious thing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
It's not at all.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
It's taught and it's in scripture. So why don't we
talk about it or read it in scripture.

Speaker 6 (01:32:32):
And realize it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
This is a serious conversation that never even needed to
be had in any time before recently, because it wasn't
something that was up to chance. It was clear as day,
and it was taught as such, and science backs that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
I agree, especially with Kine leaving the garden finding the
wife out of nowhere, one hundred percent. I agree, But
with the Nephelon not being able to be saved, or
just the fallen race not to be saved. When he
gives the commission to the apostles go.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Preach to every creature. I do believe that that is,
to every living being. He actually tells his apostles, go
not into the land of the Heathen, nor to any
city of the Samaritan, but go rather to your brethren,
the lost sheep of the House of Israel and.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
Any Eventually, he eventually takes Paul out, and Paul goes
to the Dentil people.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Eventually everyone Gentiles and mistranslation of the word nations who
are of Israelite stock. And the reason that he writes
to them is because they're all of the same people
of the race of Adam. And he says that to them,
and he says to the Galatians, we were with each
other under the law. He says to the Greeks, we
drank the same spiritual drink. Well, these people were pagan,
as we know, and they were not called Israelites at
the time, because they were the scattered Israelite tribes. And

(01:33:40):
Paul was sent to gather the last sheep of Israel,
which is why he wrote exclusively to those, and they
were all European.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
No, I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
He actually tried to go onto the Asia, and God's
Holy Spirit turned him away and said no, go rather
to your brother in the last sheep of House Israel.
And it also says he is not your brother if
he is not of your father.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Yeah, so I guess I'll oh so Travis, go ahead, man,
We'll let you.

Speaker 7 (01:34:05):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
I not a whole lot to say. I I just
agree with I. I agree with Zach so so much here,
and I I just you just gotta be careful with
with just saying that everything is a mistranslation, man, like

(01:34:29):
like this whole Oh this is a mistranslation. Oh this
is a mistranslation. The gen you know him Paul going
out and preaching to the gentiles. Oh, that's a mistranslation.
That doesn't mean the.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Word the word gentile is.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Go ahead, yeah, man, I can't get a thought. I
love you to death, bro, but I mean, let me
get a thought out. I I think that what what
happens with this is you start preaching, you start saying that,
and then it becomes well, I guess I'm not of
the blow bod line. I can't be saved. And that
is that is my my genuine problem with this, with

(01:35:07):
this theory of oh, it's it's just all the Edomites,
it's it's it's it's this it's it's it's that and
and I I understand, and I totally I buy the
whole bloodline thing the satan, see, I buy it, but
I don't buy the whole You can only be saved
if you're of literal genealogy from Adam. I don't or

(01:35:32):
excuse me not Adam Abraham. I don't believe that. And
if you're because because I like, like what Zach said is,
you know, he told him to go out and preach
to every every living creature. So I do believe that
everybody does have that chance to be saved through accepting

(01:35:56):
Christ and his blood comes in and change us and
makes us to be like the children of God, to
be like the sons of God. And I believe that
is a spiritual thing, to be honest with you. Yeah,
but I love your hearts, man.

Speaker 3 (01:36:16):
Yeah, I think it's a physical thing because of that.
That blood that we're hearing is because He is our
father and we are of his genealogy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
All right, right on, Riley, that's all it is. Go ahead, brother, Sorry, guys,
I gotta wrap this up here quick. I don't think
it be rude or anything like that, but I just
have to wrap this up You're all good, brother, h
you good. I appreciate.

Speaker 7 (01:36:36):
I always just like to end with this thing, because
at the end of the day, guys alone that got
all the answers, like to the one hundred percent truth.
And I love having conversations. I know I hardly spoke
this evening, but I do appreciate it, and I appreciate everybody,
and I'd just like to end with this to do it,
and it's Matthew twenty two thirty seven forty. You know,

(01:36:59):
Jesus replied, love the Lord your God, with all your
heart and with all your soul, and with all your mind.

Speaker 6 (01:37:05):
This is the first and greatest commandment.

Speaker 7 (01:37:06):
And the second is to love yourself as you love
your neighbor as yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:37:11):
And the law and the pro all the law and
the prophets hanging on.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
These two commandments.

Speaker 7 (01:37:16):
You know, at the end of the end of the day,
where everybody's gonna see something a little differently. And I
don't know why that is, but it just is what
it is. But at the end of the day, if
we love each other and we love the Lord above
all else, and you know we profess him as our
Lord and savior, we know that he went upon the cross.

(01:37:37):
He rose three days later later. He is born from
a virgin mother. You know, he conquered death. I you
know all this, we can sit here and talk about
all day, but I believe in all my heart if
we follow what Jesus said and that that at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Of the day, we're all gonna be good.

Speaker 7 (01:37:54):
And I just wanted you to know I love each and
every one of y'all listening. I love each and every
one of y'all here. And I appreciate for you guys
for allowing me in the space.

Speaker 1 (01:38:05):
And thanks, yeah, appreciate that. Man, And and folks, we
thank you for tuning in real quick. We'll start with Travis. Travis,
go ahead, plug your channels and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Absolutely, Guys. You can follow me on t carp just
Google that you can see all my stuff, or my
bigger channel, the Sasquatch Awareness Channel. You can find all
that stuff we talk about, Bigfoot, NEFLI on all the
all the crazy stuff we were reading, the truth denied
DNA stuff. We have a lot of fun over there, all.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Right, Zach, go ahead, you want to plug your outlets
as well.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
Yeah, I'm just on YouTube and Facebook and you can
both find me there just at Zach Lewis and you'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:38:48):
I love how he whips out this picture. I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Painting, my favorite one. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
All right, Riley, go ahead and plug your channels and
info for me. All right. You can find me anywhere.

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
You can tie been, Midwest myth Olds, Midwest Missiles podcast.
I'm on all partios, man, I am not able to
speak right now. I'm on an all podcasting away, dude,
all podcasts, all podcast platforms. You can find me on
the YouTube at Midwest Mythos Podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:39:14):
You want to reach out to me, I got a
link tree in the bottle down below, or hit me
up on the Instagram. I got an email that you
can find on the link tree and all that good stuff.
Hit me up if you want to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
Take you against yeah, man, Harley, go ahead, buddy, and
we'll have you plug if any outlets that you've got
for the audience.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
I apologize for talking over and not letting y'all get
anything in that was I was kind of room and
juvenile of me. I was pretty immature, and I apologized Tyler,
Zach and Riley and the rest of them. But uh,
but uh, I'm sorry about that. But but uh, and
you know, I don't. I don't say that I'm sorry
that we misinterpret or anything either. I think it's great
because you know, I'll tell you if I would have

(01:39:53):
heard any of this stuff, any of it from anybody,
you know, just even some few years ago. And I'm younger,
but I was just I wouldn't know what the hell
to think, you know, And I and I don't think
that disagreement is disrespect. And I love that you guys
challenge me, and I hope that that nobody accepts a
single word I say and only reads the scripture and
realize what it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
If I'm wrong, but everything, that's fine as long as
you get the truth right. And hopefully I do too.
So I wasn't saying anything because I think that it's
all totally absolute, but just at this point in time
in my research, that's what I found. And U and
I apologize as that came off in a poor way.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
No it didn't. I think that's what you said is
extremely wise. And everybody in the chat needs to understand
that Harley is a good man of God and he's
trying to find the way just like we all are,
and for him to see you know he's on fire,
that he's he's saying, be like, be like the Brians.
Take what I say and then go research at Harley.
That's all that's so well said, brother, And I think
you will. I think that you would. I think everybody

(01:40:50):
here on this panel loves the Lord. We're just all
trying to get right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
Yep, yep. There's so many gaps to fill in when
it comes to some of the things discussed. You know,
the Bible and nearly that's what we're here to do.
We stretch each other a little bit. This is kind
of a you know, not an inside the sandbox, more
of the outside of the sandbox type of conversations. I
enjoy having it with you guys. Folks. If you like
the show and you want to support us, it's free.

(01:41:15):
Head on over to our platforms. Please smash up subscribe button.
Like the show, share with your friends, drop a comment
down below about the things that we got into. I
want to hear your your thoughts and that's where we
can engage the most with the audience. But gentlemen, thank
you so much. Man. This has been a lot of fun.
If you just wouldn't mind just staying in the green
room for me right when I hit this and I
close this live. But everyone in the chat we had

(01:41:36):
around almost I mean, we had forty people at one point,
forty five people. This was an awesome turnout. I appreciate
the audience so much. Really, it gives us that motivation
to keep doing what we're doing. And we just love
the engagement and lots of love for you folks as well.
But I'm gonna pray it out for us and then
we'll close, Okay, So, Heavenly Father, thank you for today.

(01:41:56):
Thank you for bringing us all here together. Thank you
for the gift of companionship and friendship. And I pray
that that in any of our disagreements or any in
any point in our conversations, you know, where we may
not have agreed entirely with each other, Lord, I pray
that you work through every single word that we've communicated
with each other. And I just pray that you you

(01:42:17):
continue to work in us, Lord, And we thank you
for the gift of salvation. We thank you for saving
us from our sinful flesh and our sinful nature. Lord,
and I pray that you just continue to work in us,
continue to live in us, Lord, and just bear the
fruits of the spirit to others so that they can
witness your truth, your glory. And we love you and

(01:42:39):
praise you in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Okay, guys, thank
you again. Folks, We're gonna end the live. Thanks for
tuning in. See you next time.

Speaker 5 (01:43:00):
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