September 16, 2025 • 33 mins
What if the most transformative leadership principle was hiding in plain sight at a Samaritan well? When Jesus chose to speak with a woman society had marginalized, he wasn't just breaking cultural barriers—he was modeling what exceptional leadership looks like.
Leaders who make time for everyone, especially those at the bottom of organizational hierarchies, send a powerful message that each person matters. As we explore John chapters 4 and 5, this episode reveals how Jesus' interaction with the Samaritan woman demonstrates the revolutionary idea that good leaders value every person, regardless of their status or position.
Doug Conant, former Campbell Soup CEO, embodied this principle by walking manufacturing floors daily in his tennis shoes, connecting with frontline employees. Like the "Undercover Boss" television concept, leaders who step out of boardrooms and into the everyday work of their teams gain invaluable perspective while showing genuine care for those making their organization function.
Beyond simply acknowledging people, exceptional leaders help others see bigger possibilities for themselves. As one powerful quote shared in this episode states: "Some goals must be out of reach, but not out of sight to make you stretch and grow to your full potential." Jesus helped the Samaritan woman envision something greater, and she became a leader herself—spreading the message throughout her community.
We also tackle practical leadership challenges like setting clear priorities, managing digital distractions, and creating effective to-do lists. The simple practice of identifying your three most important daily tasks before checking emails or social media can dramatically transform your leadership effectiveness.
Whether you manage a team of five or five hundred, these biblical principles offer timeless wisdom for seeing potential where others don't and making every interaction count. Give this episode a listen, then try scheduling lunch with someone in your organization you normally wouldn't—you might be surprised at what you both gain from the experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:23):
all righty welcome.
Yeah, uh-huh, yeah, come on,come on, alrighty welcome,
welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, how you doing, Tim Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey Dr P.
How are you doing today?
I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
How are you doing Wonderful and welcome to some of
our well, all of our newlisteners.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, we've picked up a few new listeners, like you
know one and a half, I think,nah, nah, we picked up some new
listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We pick up new listeners every week.
That's fantastic, great yeah,and next week's our second
anniversary show.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Second anniversary show.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's going to be exciting.
We're going to talk about theBible for about two minutes and
then dad jokes for like 25minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We should invite all four of our listeners to come
into the office.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, Maybe they can bring some snacks.
Maybe they can bring somesnacks.
I like it, yeah, oh well.
Yeah, that'll be great.
That'll be really really good.
I'm looking forward to nextweek but I'm looking forward to
today.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm looking forward to it major about.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, so how have you been?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm doing good, can't complain, just been teaching a
lot of classes.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, I know You've been really busy.
You're going to be traveling alittle bit.
Yeah, I, I got a lot of traveland speaking and all that stuff.
Well, you're good at that.
That's a good thing, that'sgood.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I know you do.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's sort of my give back to the world.
That's good, that's my fun.
That's really fun.
That's really good.
How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm good.
I just had a little doc'sappointment yesterday.
I my nose a couple months agoand I had to have a little
adjustment to my shave a littleshave on my nose, so I just want
to encourage our audience youknow, get, get go to your doctor
, you know your dermatologist,your regular PCP.
(02:17):
Just have some regular checkups, you know.
You want to take care of yourbody and stay around as long as
possible, and some of that skincancer can get some serious
pretty quick.
So when I was growing upplaying tennis all the time
outside all the time, we didn'teven think about it Not even a
question.
But now we didn't even knowwhat sunscreen was.
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We put on suntan lotion andjust went out and played Baby
oil.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
As I said, right, yeah, exactly right, baby oil
would get really dark.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, but you just got to be aware of your body and
any issues that you might behaving and don't put them off.
Take care of them quick,because a lot of them don't heal
themselves.
And so if you don't take careof it, it could become a major
problem later, and so, anyway,that's what I have.
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I have a little band-aid on mynose now.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You do.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You don't have the Rudolph thing going.
No, I don't have the Rudolph,like I did before.
You came in one time withRudolph nose I did.
I was like, oh, what's going onwith Rudolph here?
Christmas in July or somethinglike that.
Yeah, it was, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So yeah, but I'm good .
I'm glad to be back in thestudio and looking forward to
today to continue ourconversation with the book of
John and some biblicalleadership principles which are
many right here in John, chapterfour and five.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But you know.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But we can't go there yet we got to.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Here's Dr Posey.
I'm getting all the equipmentset up right Because I've got
lots of screens in front of meand all this stuff you do.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You have all these screens and board mixers and all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And then all of a sudden Dr Posey's over there
just laughing out loud and I'mlike what's going on over there?
He goes oh, I got some goodones today.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I do.
I have some really good ones.
And so think about this.
Okay, Of all the inventionsever created, the dry erase
board probably is the mostremarkable.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
All right.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, we got enough dry eraser boards in our office.
Here we do.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I took this one down.
Yeah, that was like a full wallof dry eraser board.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Decided to go a little bit different on this
wall instead of the dry eraser.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
But I like the studio .
It's got a bunch of it.
Got some Frank Sinatra in there.
It got a bunch of vinyl.
It looks really really cool.
Yeah, it's really really cool.
It's really nice.
That's some more stuff to do.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Put a cross up.
I don't see the cross.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
We added the cross up here.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So, yeah, got plans for that wall, got plans for a
couple other walls and just towork in progress.
As I said, dr Posey walked intothe studio.
I'm like it's still a mess.
I'm cause I'm redoing somestuff in the studio and and
throughout my training room andeverything.
It's like I've been teachingclass for the last week I
haven't been in here, so I'mexcited to spend a couple days.
Maybe this weekend get in here,we'll see.
My wife has plans other for methis weekend than the studio.
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So we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Well, that's okay, studio can wait, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, I don't know.
Mine sound a whole lot more funthan my to-do list over there
on my honeydews.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Speaking of can't wait, I've got a joke that just
can't wait.
All right, well, let's make ithappen, Okay so some people
think my dad jokes are childish,which is crazy.
They're obviously full-grown.
Let's see, I don't know, maybewe'll do that one on that one,
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because that's what some peoplethink about our dad jokes.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But hey, you know, we like our dad jokes we do like
our dad and it's funniest thingI.
I know that we have a lot oflisteners like why is the dad
jokes, but we get the bestcomments on the dad jokes.
Some of the best comments weget.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
From the dad jokes.
From the dad jokes.
Oh my gosh, I really like thatone, I really love the dad jokes
.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well, you know, today , so if you're not enjoying the
dad, you're just not smilingenough, you're not groaning
enough.
You've got to get groaningenough, right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, I know, here in Texas it's still hot.
I mean, we're in the middle ofSeptember.
It's still warm, but beforelong we're going to have a
change in season.
For what?
One day?
And it'll be cold.
So here's one.
What do painters do whenthey're cold?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
What do painters do when they're cold?
What do painters do when it'scold?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh, we got a construction one going yeah,
your construction guy shouldknow this one.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I do not know.
They put on another coat.
All right, I give you that one.
I should have known that one.
I wasn't really thinking aboutthat one.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I guess I should have put a little bit more thought
into that one, yeah, I bet youcould have if you had thought
about it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
If I would have.
I was trying to think, well, doI have any good ones?
You got any good ones?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I got at least 40 more.
I know you do.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
But you got to save them up because next week is our
anniversary show oh, next weekanniversary show and we have a
lot of dad jokes.
I don't know if you were aroundour Christmas show.
Go back and listen to ourChristmas show.
20 Christmas and New Year'syeah, that one was a full dad,
joke Total dad joke.
It was so much fun.
I don't know if anybodylistened to it, but we had fun
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doing it.
Bye guys, it was a good time.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So one more before we get into the Bible.
It was a good time.
So one more before we get intothe Bible.
So in our home where we livejust outside of Fort Worth, we
have an acre of property.
We have a little barn therewhere I keep my mower in and
garden tools and everything.
(08:03):
But you know, in the housesometimes the Internet like
yesterday the internet was inand out, yeah, but if I go to
the barn I always get a stableconnection.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's like that connection where they go crawl
in the doghouse for the internet.
Yeah well, the only one I haveis I was talking about, you know
, I've got some travel coming up.
I've got a beach in Floridathat you know.
I've got to go down there anddo some work.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it's really sad yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I know it's sad when I have to do speaking gigs in
Florida, but you know what didthe beach say when the tide
finally came in?
Hi Long time, no see.
Long time, no see.
Well, you know, let me see.
Well, you know one last thing.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know, this time of year, Apple normally comes
out with a new product, a newiPhone, new tablet, new
something.
Well, they just announced abrand-new product geared towards
pirates.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's going to be called the iPatch.
I was trying to think.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I was thinking hard on that one.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
All right, john 4.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
John 4.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, let's do this real fast for the people that
didn't know, john's a huge onefor us, very important chapter
in the Bible right.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Very important book in the Bible, Book in the.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Bible.
Sorry, yeah, and we've talkedabout that.
A lot of these early chaptersthey sort of blend together.
And to sort of recap on some ofthat, you have the first couple
chapters of the New Testament,first couple books of the New
Testament.
I know it's been a long dayalready, but just sort of recap.
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And then how we blend into John4 here.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, so let me just step back a little further for
those new listeners.
So we started let's just saygosh last fall sometime with the
desire of going through all ofthe books in the Bible, starting
with the book of Genesis andtalking about the leadership
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principles that we find in eachbook.
Now, obviously we can't go intoevery chapter in every book,
but when we went through the OldTestament, normally we did one
principle per book.
When we get to the NewTestament the first, if you're
not familiar with the Bible 27books the first four books are
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called the Gospels, which meansgood news, because they focus on
the life of Jesus.
The first three books of theNew Testament Matthew, mark and
Luke are called the synopticgospels because they're very,
very similar.
So you're going to find a storyin Matthew might be a different
chapter, might be a fewdifferent words, but it's going
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to be very similar.
In Mark and Luke, some thingslike the story of the prodigal
son or the Good Samaritan youmight only find in Luke.
The prodigal son or the GoodSamaritan you might only find in
Luke.
And so each book has theirunique passages, but a vast
majority of Matthew, mark andLuke are identical.
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We thought that the principle ofthe Old Testament was going to
be the same for the NewTestament, that we would take
one leadership principle perbook.
Well, when we started reallygetting into it, we found out
that wasn't adequate enough.
So we spent several weeks oneach one of the books.
We spent four weeks on the bookof Luke.
Now we're on the third week ofthe book of John and we're only
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at the chapter four.
But the book of John, writtenby the Apostle John, who also
wrote 1, 2, and 3, john alsowrote the last book of the Bible
, the book of Revelation.
It's different.
It's different than theSynoptic Gospel.
Now it does focus on the lifeof Jesus and his teachings.
And we see in chapter 3 orchapter 2 about the miracle of
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Cana, you know, turning waterinto wine, but it's different.
And so if you read all four,you're going to read the first
three books and you go, oh,these are similar.
You come to chapter I mean thebook of John and it starts out
totally different and it staystotally different.
Now there are some similarthings, like the feeding of the
5,000.
That miracle is in all of thefour Gospels.
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The death and resurrection ofJesus is the same.
But the book of John doesn'thave a birth story.
Like we have the birth storythat we're familiar with in the
Gospel of Luke and also the wisemen story in the Gospel of
Matthew, there is no birth story.
In the Gospel of John there isthe story of the crucifixion and
the resurrection, but not abirth story.
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So it's different.
There's also a little differentlanguage, and so when you read
all four Gospels, I think youget a fuller picture of the life
and teachings of Jesus.
And so we come now to John,chapter 4, and one of the most
significant stories in thatparticular chapter is that Jesus
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and his disciples were inSamaria and he comes up to a
well, he tells the disciples togo in and get to the town and
get some food and he's restingby the well and there's a woman
there who is there to draw waterand she starts having a
conversation with Jesus and hestarts having a conversation
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with her and at the end she goesI realize you're a prophet and
the conversation about livingwater and it's just a really
powerful conversation.
We won't get into all thedetails, but here's the thing I
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think for leadership principles,jesus was willing to talk to
anyone about anything and goodleaders are willing to spend
time with everyone.
If you're, you know, let's justsay now, obviously, if you've
got 500 people on your payroll,you might not have time, but if
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you have 100 people or less onyour payroll, or say 50 or less
your payroll, or say 50 or less,then it's like okay, how much
time?
lately have you spent with yourcustodian?
How much time have you spentwith the person that makes the
lowest amount of money on yourorganization?
Are you only spending time withyour top salespeople or your
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top or you know salespeople oryour, your accountant or your
business manager, whatever it is?
I think good leaders see thevalue in spending time with each
person.
Now you might not spend thesame amount of time, but if you
say you know to whoever doesyour schedule, I, over the next
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six months, I want to spend atleast 30 minutes with every
person on this who gets apaycheck from us.
I want to spend at least 30minutes with each person.
Now, it might take a year, butcan you imagine the message that
sends out to the organization?
that every person is valuable.
And it might be a while beforeyou do that.
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It might be that you don't havethe time right now because of
whatever, but okay, write them anote, but let people know.
Hey, over the next year,so-and-so, we're going to
schedule and everybody becauseeverybody is valuable, and
everybody because everybody isvaluable.
And that's the message thatJesus I think one of the main
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lessons of this particularchapter is with talking with the
woman of Samaria, because evenwhen his disciples came back,
they're thinking he's talking toa woman, he's talking to a
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Samaritan woman, what'shappening here?
And they were still not gettingit that Jesus, everybody
matters to Jesus.
And it wasn't like a waste oftime, it wasn't like going out
of his way.
He saw the value in everyperson and he was willing to
spend time with them, and Ithink good leaders do that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, and if you want a case study on that, I think
I've mentioned his name beforebut when Doug Conant was the CEO
of Campbell Soup, he made apoint of that.
He made a point for multiplereasons.
Every time during his lunch,wherever he was traveling in the
country he traveled all thetime he would put his tennis
shoes on, go down and walk thefloor of the manufacturing
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facility, get his 10,000 stepsin and he shook everybody's
hands.
So he'd spend an hour, twohours doing that right in the
middle of his day, in betweenall his board meetings, to go
out and meet some of the peoplethat were working.
And I mean he was very popularas far as the CEO, the way he
handled business and he did alot of thank you notes and he
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really.
For me, that's the way a leadershould handle themselves,
especially in a big corporation.
You can always make time.
You can't get to know theorganization if you're sitting
in a boardroom with 10 peopleand that's the only thing you
ever see is those 10 people inthe boardroom.
It's just not the way to run abig business, my opinion.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, what was that television show about?
The secret boss?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
or whatever.
Yeah, undercover, undercoverboss or something like that.
Yeah, some of that stuff wasfascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know the boss disguises him or herself.
They go work on the factoryfloor or on the restaurant line
or whatever they're doing andthey really learn like oh wow,
and they see the people that aremaking it happen every day.
Because it's not an uncommonthing if you're in a leadership
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position for a while, sometimesyou just kind of remove yourself
from the daily grind of thedecisions of the people that are
making it work and you're upthere taking care of important
issues but you almost have losttouch with the people that are,
you know, making it happen everyday and at least that part of
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the business.
And so that show was UndercoverBoss or something.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, Undercover Boss .
Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And it was like, oh my goodness, I would think for
the people that were willing todo that, the bosses that were
willing to say, hey, I'll godress in clothes like just
normal workers and get downthere and I might learn some
things.
I think they might learn acertain skill, but I think what
they really learned was, youknow, every person is important,
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that I just forgot how valuablemy people are.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It was.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And what a great lesson that we get right here
from John, chapter 4.
The other thing is, jesushelped this woman, let's just
say see a bigger vision of faiththan she had, and I think that
is another valuable lesson fromthis chapter.
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And when you spend time withpeople, then you have the
opportunity to impart a biggervision.
That's not the reason you'retalking to them, that's not the
reason you're doing that, butone of the reasons that you
could meet with them is not justto get to know them, see how
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they're doing, but also makesure they understand the vision
of the company Do they have anythoughts about it?
And just challenge them to seea bigger vision.
So right before the show I wastelling Tim, I had this quote
from Tom Ziegler, ziegler's son,and it says this some goals
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must be out of reach, but notout of sight to make you stretch
and grow to your full potential, and I think that's what this
here is in John, chapter 4.
Jesus was stretching thiswoman's faith to see something
bigger than she saw, and sherealized, as she stretched her
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faith, as Jesus was able to dothat that she realized that she
was in the presence of theMessiah, not just a prophet, not
just a holy man, that she wasin the presence of the creator
of the universe, and it justtransformed her life.
So that's one of the byproductsof being with people is to help
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, not just put value, help themrealize they're valuable, but to
make sure that they see abigger vision.
You can impart that to them.
So what's?
Some great leadershipprinciples here from you know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, and that's one of the things I put down in my
notes is you know, jesus sawleadership potential wherein the
woman that others couldn't see,and then she ended up becoming
an evangelist, you know and shewas the first of Samaritan, that
word leader.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
right, yeah, I told you it's been a long day.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's already been a long day in the morning, so, but
yeah, it's.
It's one of those things thatuh, uh.
And how many times have youthink about leaders?
I can think about when I was incorporate.
I can think about it when in mybusinesses, where you see
somebody that you know they havethe leadership potential in
them, um, they just haven't hittheir stride yet, right.
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So it's, I've helped, I'mhelping uh one person right now.
She's stepping's stepping outto uh start her own consulting
company.
I've been meeting with her andand uh, man, she's a go-getter.
I knew she would be.
And uh, she's, she's going atit.
I just trying to refocus her.
She's, she's, uh, you know, Itold her you gotta, you gotta
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prioritize and you know we'regetting her all done, but I mean
she's, she's getting after itand uh, you know, I love it when
I see things like that you talkabout priorities.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
One of the biggest time wasters for leaders is a
lack of priorities.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Everything seems to be has the same value.
Yeah, and so if you havepriorities which we've talked
about, this from the very firstshow is setting goals, having
priorities, making a to aboutthis from the very first show is
setting goals, havingpriorities, making a to-do list,
working your list.
But if you don't set prioritiesand if you say, okay, my top 10
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things to do this week, ifmeeting with some of your people
not your board members, notyour people that you meet with
every week If you're not meetingwith some of your people on the
factory floor or out in thewarehouse or whatever, you're
not meeting with them, Iwouldn't challenge you to
re-look at your priorities, tosay, you know what, I might go
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down there for 30 minutes, maybeI'll just hey, thursday, this
section right here, let's do abrown bag lunch.
You're going to eat lunchanyway, so why not just take a
brown bag lunch, eat with someof your people and just sit down
there and get to know them andthey will feel so valuable
because you spent that time withthem.
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But it really is a matter ofpriorities.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, it's funny.
When you walked in, that was adocument I was working on.
I go through this every I don'tknow six months.
It's around six months where Ianalyze everything and what's
working, where I'm wasting timeand all this.
So I was actually working on mydaily routine, from when I get
up in the morning to when I gohome at night, and so I was
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putting that.
So that was a document I wassaving.
When you walked in the studiotoday is, I was working on
revamping that and changing acouple of things because my
schedule's changed, but I didn'thave it in writing.
I didn't have it where I couldlook at it every day, so I was
revamping and then I added acouple of things I'd forgot that
I haven't been doing lately andso, yes, that's what I was
working on.
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So I loved that when you canrefocus and I'm in a big refocus
mode right now, so that's good.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So I know we talked about this a couple of weeks ago
, setting priorities, and so andI used to do this on Sunday
night I would just get out of mylittle card file and I would
write down the things that Ineeded to do that week and then
I would, you know, prioritizethem.
So I would make sure that I gotthat.
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You know 80 20 rule.
I would do those things thatwould get 80% of the results.
I would try to get them donedepending on the day, cause we
always had staff meetings onTuesday, full staff meetings on
Tuesdays, and so it's like, okay, what am I going to do on
Monday?
What am I going to do onTuesday?
Who am I meeting with onMondays?
Who am I meeting with onTuesdays?
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And I would just sit down andmake my list, because if I
didn't make a list, it wasamazing how little got done.
And so if you're not in thehabit of making a list and
setting your priorities, Iencourage you to do that.
You will be such a betterleader almost immediately.
If you actually not just inyour brain, you can put it on
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your phone.
I did old school.
I actually had a card file thatsaid Dean's List and I would
just write them down and I wouldkeep that in my pocket all the
time and it was a habit that Ihad to learn to do, but it was
so valuable, it was very, veryvaluable.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, and that's what my goal is.
I mean because my to-do list is, I mean I think I have 72
things.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I was going to say it's as tall as you are.
It's crazy right.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But I mean, you're never going to get everything
done, but what you need to do.
For me, my strategy is alwayspick out the three most
important things to accomplishthat day.
They have to be accomplished.
And then I knock them out inthe morning when you're not busy
and you can schedule sort of alittle time, and then all the
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others after that, you sort ofpriorities, I mean, we grew up
with the Franklin Covey system,the ABCs one, two, threes, you
know.
But yeah, if you can figure outyour three most important tasks
and just get them done, that wayyou can at least go home at the
end of the day going toaccomplish something, and the
three will be there the next day.
The other three will be therethe next day, but at least that
way you know you're movingforward and you're just not
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stagnating or spending time onstuff that you shouldn't there,
should be delegated or deleted,you know.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, and so when you're prioritizing, you're
thinking, okay, one of thethings you might need to do just
as a self-check is to look atyour phone and think how much
screen time time have.
I had Okay, some screen time yougot to do, but it's like when
am I doing my screen time?
Am I doing it a lot in themorning?
Am I doing it before I get towork?
(26:59):
Is that a distraction for me?
Is that setting my agenda forthe day, or am I setting my
agenda for the day?
And I learned a long time agoif I don't set my agenda for the
day, then someone else is goingto set it for me and it might
not be to my advantage, and soyou know.
It's like okay, if I'm workingon a project and my phone rings,
(27:22):
do I automatically answer it?
And I would say yes if it's mywife.
Anyone else?
You know the bishop yes, butanyone else I just like, unless
it's one of my kids.
I was like you know what, I'lljust call them back.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Well, I mean, most of everybody gets called back from
me.
I can see it because I mean andI've said it here before I mean
my ringer has not been on, andgoing on 11 years now I don't
have a ringer on.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You just turn it off.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I see the phone.
I see it standing right here inthe studio.
I can see if somebody's textingme.
I can see somebody's calling me.
I mean if I want to.
If I don't, I flip it over.
I never even know.
I just keep going, I do my work, I'm focused, but yeah, 11
years I haven't had a ringer on,but it's by our phones.
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Or our newsfeed or social media or whatever.
It's just so easy and that canreally take away from
productivity.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, I just re-downloaded the Facebook app
because the apps are way tooeasy, so every once in a while
I'll just go in and delete it.
That way I still can go ontoFacebook if I do it.
But I have to log on and thenlog off every time and it's a
pain just to.
it's such a thing, just to enteryour password and all this, but
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I delete the app and then Idelete it for six months or
whatever.
Get out of that habit of you.
Know.
Just you pick up your phone,you're on the Facebook app or
something.
So I say break that, break that.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Break it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Break that habit, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And you don't have to wait until the new year to
start a new habit right?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, no, you don't, you can start it tomorrow, today
, you can just start it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
If you haven't made your list for this week.
Sit down tonight and do it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's exactly right.
Yeah, you know, and I meanthat's sort of you know, you can
always go and change everythingthat you need to.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, okay, so we're going to get to chapter five.
How much time do we got?
No, I mean, we're good.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
We're good.
You know, I was like looking atsome dad jokes to try to see
what I can do to compete withyou right.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, so let me ask you this question what school do
surfers go to?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, where do surfers go to school?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Surfers go to school.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
They go to boarding school, of course, nice.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I was trying to go with something wave.
How do you catch a squirrel?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
How do you catch a squirrel?
Yeah, pretend to be a nut.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Close.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Climb a tree and act like a nut.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
All right, wow Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Well, that's not hard for me.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
He's looked at like thousands of dad jokes.
It's tough to get them.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's why I usually let him do them right okay, so I
ordered 2 000 ounces of hot andsour soup.
Uh-, oh yeah, it was one time,one time yeah, well, I tried to
order some camouflage pants.
But you couldn't find them, butI couldn't find them.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oh, I do too.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Told my wife she should embrace her mistakes.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You know where we're going.
Yeah, she hugged you, shehugged me, right yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I love some of the old ones, man.
I love some of the good ones,you know we had so much rain the
other day here.
Yes, yes, I mean in our house.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
We had, like in two days we had like two and a half
inches of rain, and so I had togo out and, you know, get the
mail, and so I put on myraincoat.
I found a $20 bill in thepocket of my raincoat.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I must have been saving it for a
rainy day.
Yeah, okay, Okay, let's go on.
Let's talk about the Bible.
Let's talk about the Bible.
All right, guys?
Well, thank you for hanging outwith us today.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Wait a minute.
Who do you call?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
for help.
Oh, never mind.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Who do you call for help with your Bluetooth?
I don't know the dentist, ofcourse.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Oh boy, I don't know Where's the moan one.
I need a moan one.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's almost a moan.
That's close.
I used to moan one.
There you go.
That's almost a moan.
That's close.
I used to be a baker.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You baked what?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I didn't.
I ended up couldn't be a bakerany longer because I couldn't
make enough dough.
Oh, that's it.
Oh, that's very important.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Okay, did you hear about the woman who couldn't
stop collecting magazines?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, she had a lot of issues.
All right, let the people go.
We got our anniversary shownext week.
Yes, we do?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
We got dad jokes.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I have saved them up.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I am ready.
You guys, I need to post somepictures online, just so you can
see all these dad jokes here.
Yeah, you know and that.
But yeah, join us next weekAnniversary show going on two
years.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yes, how exciting is that?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
It's pretty dang exciting.
So you know up to three and ahalf listeners.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
That's good.
Somebody's dog listens.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
But they're an avid listener so we welcome them.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
They're consistent.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Now you know.
Thank you for listening to us.
Check us outbiblicalleadershipshowcom.
Let us know if we can say aprayer.
Any requests?
Give us some good dad jokesbefore next week, please.
We need some good dad jokesOther than that.
Have Other than that.
Have a great day and Dr Poseytakes out.
Make it a great day.
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Talk to you soon.
all righty welcome.
Yeah, uh-huh, yeah, come on,come on, alrighty welcome,
welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Hey, how you doing, Tim Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey Dr P.
How are you doing today?
I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
How are you doing Wonderful and welcome to some of
our well, all of our newlisteners.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, we've picked up a few new listeners, like you
know one and a half, I think,nah, nah, we picked up some new
listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We pick up new listeners every week.
That's fantastic, great yeah,and next week's our second
anniversary show.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Second anniversary show.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's going to be exciting.
We're going to talk about theBible for about two minutes and
then dad jokes for like 25minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
We should invite all four of our listeners to come
into the office.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, Maybe they can bring some snacks.
Maybe they can bring somesnacks.
I like it, yeah, oh well.
Yeah, that'll be great.
That'll be really really good.
I'm looking forward to nextweek but I'm looking forward to
today.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I'm looking forward to it major about.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, so how have you been?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I'm doing good, can't complain, just been teaching a
lot of classes.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, I know You've been really busy.
You're going to be traveling alittle bit.
Yeah, I, I got a lot of traveland speaking and all that stuff.
Well, you're good at that.
That's a good thing, that'sgood.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I know you do.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's sort of my give back to the world.
That's good, that's my fun.
That's really fun.
That's really good.
How about you?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm good.
I just had a little doc'sappointment yesterday.
I my nose a couple months agoand I had to have a little
adjustment to my shave a littleshave on my nose, so I just want
to encourage our audience youknow, get, get go to your doctor
, you know your dermatologist,your regular PCP.
(02:17):
Just have some regular checkups, you know.
You want to take care of yourbody and stay around as long as
possible, and some of that skincancer can get some serious
pretty quick.
So when I was growing upplaying tennis all the time
outside all the time, we didn'teven think about it Not even a
question.
But now we didn't even knowwhat sunscreen was.
(02:41):
We put on suntan lotion andjust went out and played Baby
oil.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
As I said, right, yeah, exactly right, baby oil
would get really dark.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, but you just got to be aware of your body and
any issues that you might behaving and don't put them off.
Take care of them quick,because a lot of them don't heal
themselves.
And so if you don't take careof it, it could become a major
problem later, and so, anyway,that's what I have.
(03:09):
I have a little band-aid on mynose now.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
You do.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
You don't have the Rudolph thing going.
No, I don't have the Rudolph,like I did before.
You came in one time withRudolph nose I did.
I was like, oh, what's going onwith Rudolph here?
Christmas in July or somethinglike that.
Yeah, it was, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
So yeah, but I'm good .
I'm glad to be back in thestudio and looking forward to
today to continue ourconversation with the book of
John and some biblicalleadership principles which are
many right here in John, chapterfour and five.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
But you know.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But we can't go there yet we got to.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Here's Dr Posey.
I'm getting all the equipmentset up right Because I've got
lots of screens in front of meand all this stuff you do.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You have all these screens and board mixers and all
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And then all of a sudden Dr Posey's over there
just laughing out loud and I'mlike what's going on over there?
He goes oh, I got some goodones today.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I do.
I have some really good ones.
And so think about this.
Okay, Of all the inventionsever created, the dry erase
board probably is the mostremarkable.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
All right.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, we got enough dry eraser boards in our office.
Here we do.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I took this one down.
Yeah, that was like a full wallof dry eraser board.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Decided to go a little bit different on this
wall instead of the dry eraser.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
But I like the studio .
It's got a bunch of it.
Got some Frank Sinatra in there.
It got a bunch of vinyl.
It looks really really cool.
Yeah, it's really really cool.
It's really nice.
That's some more stuff to do.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Put a cross up.
I don't see the cross.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
We added the cross up here.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So, yeah, got plans for that wall, got plans for a
couple other walls and just towork in progress.
As I said, dr Posey walked intothe studio.
I'm like it's still a mess.
I'm cause I'm redoing somestuff in the studio and and
throughout my training room andeverything.
It's like I've been teachingclass for the last week I
haven't been in here, so I'mexcited to spend a couple days.
Maybe this weekend get in here,we'll see.
My wife has plans other for methis weekend than the studio.
(05:19):
So we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Well, that's okay, studio can wait, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Well, I don't know.
Mine sound a whole lot more funthan my to-do list over there
on my honeydews.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Speaking of can't wait, I've got a joke that just
can't wait.
All right, well, let's make ithappen, Okay so some people
think my dad jokes are childish,which is crazy.
They're obviously full-grown.
Let's see, I don't know, maybewe'll do that one on that one,
(05:56):
because that's what some peoplethink about our dad jokes.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But hey, you know, we like our dad jokes we do like
our dad and it's funniest thingI.
I know that we have a lot oflisteners like why is the dad
jokes, but we get the bestcomments on the dad jokes.
Some of the best comments weget.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
From the dad jokes.
From the dad jokes.
Oh my gosh, I really like thatone, I really love the dad jokes
.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Well, you know, today , so if you're not enjoying the
dad, you're just not smilingenough, you're not groaning
enough.
You've got to get groaningenough, right.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, I know, here in Texas it's still hot.
I mean, we're in the middle ofSeptember.
It's still warm, but beforelong we're going to have a
change in season.
For what?
One day?
And it'll be cold.
So here's one.
What do painters do whenthey're cold?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
What do painters do when they're cold?
What do painters do when it'scold?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh, we got a construction one going yeah,
your construction guy shouldknow this one.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I do not know.
They put on another coat.
All right, I give you that one.
I should have known that one.
I wasn't really thinking aboutthat one.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I guess I should have put a little bit more thought
into that one, yeah, I bet youcould have if you had thought
about it.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
If I would have.
I was trying to think, well, doI have any good ones?
You got any good ones?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I got at least 40 more.
I know you do.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
But you got to save them up because next week is our
anniversary show oh, next weekanniversary show and we have a
lot of dad jokes.
I don't know if you were aroundour Christmas show.
Go back and listen to ourChristmas show.
20 Christmas and New Year'syeah, that one was a full dad,
joke Total dad joke.
It was so much fun.
I don't know if anybodylistened to it, but we had fun
(07:38):
doing it.
Bye guys, it was a good time.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So one more before we get into the Bible.
It was a good time.
So one more before we get intothe Bible.
So in our home where we livejust outside of Fort Worth, we
have an acre of property.
We have a little barn therewhere I keep my mower in and
garden tools and everything.
(08:03):
But you know, in the housesometimes the Internet like
yesterday the internet was inand out, yeah, but if I go to
the barn I always get a stableconnection.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's like that connection where they go crawl
in the doghouse for the internet.
Yeah well, the only one I haveis I was talking about, you know
, I've got some travel coming up.
I've got a beach in Floridathat you know.
I've got to go down there anddo some work.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it's really sad yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I know it's sad when I have to do speaking gigs in
Florida, but you know what didthe beach say when the tide
finally came in?
Hi Long time, no see.
Long time, no see.
Well, you know, let me see.
Well, you know one last thing.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know, this time of year, Apple normally comes
out with a new product, a newiPhone, new tablet, new
something.
Well, they just announced abrand-new product geared towards
pirates.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's going to be called the iPatch.
I was trying to think.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I was thinking hard on that one.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
All right, john 4.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
John 4.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, let's do this real fast for the people that
didn't know, john's a huge onefor us, very important chapter
in the Bible right.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Very important book in the Bible, Book in the.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Bible.
Sorry, yeah, and we've talkedabout that.
A lot of these early chaptersthey sort of blend together.
And to sort of recap on some ofthat, you have the first couple
chapters of the New Testament,first couple books of the New
Testament.
I know it's been a long dayalready, but just sort of recap.
(09:46):
And then how we blend into John4 here.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, so let me just step back a little further for
those new listeners.
So we started let's just saygosh last fall sometime with the
desire of going through all ofthe books in the Bible, starting
with the book of Genesis andtalking about the leadership
(10:11):
principles that we find in eachbook.
Now, obviously we can't go intoevery chapter in every book,
but when we went through the OldTestament, normally we did one
principle per book.
When we get to the NewTestament the first, if you're
not familiar with the Bible 27books the first four books are
(10:33):
called the Gospels, which meansgood news, because they focus on
the life of Jesus.
The first three books of theNew Testament Matthew, mark and
Luke are called the synopticgospels because they're very,
very similar.
So you're going to find a storyin Matthew might be a different
chapter, might be a fewdifferent words, but it's going
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to be very similar.
In Mark and Luke, some thingslike the story of the prodigal
son or the Good Samaritan youmight only find in Luke.
The prodigal son or the GoodSamaritan you might only find in
Luke.
And so each book has theirunique passages, but a vast
majority of Matthew, mark andLuke are identical.
(11:14):
We thought that the principle ofthe Old Testament was going to
be the same for the NewTestament, that we would take
one leadership principle perbook.
Well, when we started reallygetting into it, we found out
that wasn't adequate enough.
So we spent several weeks oneach one of the books.
We spent four weeks on the bookof Luke.
Now we're on the third week ofthe book of John and we're only
(11:39):
at the chapter four.
But the book of John, writtenby the Apostle John, who also
wrote 1, 2, and 3, john alsowrote the last book of the Bible
, the book of Revelation.
It's different.
It's different than theSynoptic Gospel.
Now it does focus on the lifeof Jesus and his teachings.
And we see in chapter 3 orchapter 2 about the miracle of
(12:03):
Cana, you know, turning waterinto wine, but it's different.
And so if you read all four,you're going to read the first
three books and you go, oh,these are similar.
You come to chapter I mean thebook of John and it starts out
totally different and it staystotally different.
Now there are some similarthings, like the feeding of the
5,000.
That miracle is in all of thefour Gospels.
(12:25):
The death and resurrection ofJesus is the same.
But the book of John doesn'thave a birth story.
Like we have the birth storythat we're familiar with in the
Gospel of Luke and also the wisemen story in the Gospel of
Matthew, there is no birth story.
In the Gospel of John there isthe story of the crucifixion and
the resurrection, but not abirth story.
(12:46):
So it's different.
There's also a little differentlanguage, and so when you read
all four Gospels, I think youget a fuller picture of the life
and teachings of Jesus.
And so we come now to John,chapter 4, and one of the most
significant stories in thatparticular chapter is that Jesus
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and his disciples were inSamaria and he comes up to a
well, he tells the disciples togo in and get to the town and
get some food and he's restingby the well and there's a woman
there who is there to draw waterand she starts having a
conversation with Jesus and hestarts having a conversation
(13:36):
with her and at the end she goesI realize you're a prophet and
the conversation about livingwater and it's just a really
powerful conversation.
We won't get into all thedetails, but here's the thing I
(13:57):
think for leadership principles,jesus was willing to talk to
anyone about anything and goodleaders are willing to spend
time with everyone.
If you're, you know, let's justsay now, obviously, if you've
got 500 people on your payroll,you might not have time, but if
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you have 100 people or less onyour payroll, or say 50 or less
your payroll, or say 50 or less,then it's like okay, how much
time?
lately have you spent with yourcustodian?
How much time have you spentwith the person that makes the
lowest amount of money on yourorganization?
Are you only spending time withyour top salespeople or your
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top or you know salespeople oryour, your accountant or your
business manager, whatever it is?
I think good leaders see thevalue in spending time with each
person.
Now you might not spend thesame amount of time, but if you
say you know to whoever doesyour schedule, I, over the next
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six months, I want to spend atleast 30 minutes with every
person on this who gets apaycheck from us.
I want to spend at least 30minutes with each person.
Now, it might take a year, butcan you imagine the message that
sends out to the organization?
that every person is valuable.
And it might be a while beforeyou do that.
(15:27):
It might be that you don't havethe time right now because of
whatever, but okay, write them anote, but let people know.
Hey, over the next year,so-and-so, we're going to
schedule and everybody becauseeverybody is valuable, and
everybody because everybody isvaluable.
And that's the message thatJesus I think one of the main
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lessons of this particularchapter is with talking with the
woman of Samaria, because evenwhen his disciples came back,
they're thinking he's talking toa woman, he's talking to a
(16:12):
Samaritan woman, what'shappening here?
And they were still not gettingit that Jesus, everybody
matters to Jesus.
And it wasn't like a waste oftime, it wasn't like going out
of his way.
He saw the value in everyperson and he was willing to
spend time with them, and Ithink good leaders do that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, and if you want a case study on that, I think
I've mentioned his name beforebut when Doug Conant was the CEO
of Campbell Soup, he made apoint of that.
He made a point for multiplereasons.
Every time during his lunch,wherever he was traveling in the
country he traveled all thetime he would put his tennis
shoes on, go down and walk thefloor of the manufacturing
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facility, get his 10,000 stepsin and he shook everybody's
hands.
So he'd spend an hour, twohours doing that right in the
middle of his day, in betweenall his board meetings, to go
out and meet some of the peoplethat were working.
And I mean he was very popularas far as the CEO, the way he
handled business and he did alot of thank you notes and he
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really.
For me, that's the way a leadershould handle themselves,
especially in a big corporation.
You can always make time.
You can't get to know theorganization if you're sitting
in a boardroom with 10 peopleand that's the only thing you
ever see is those 10 people inthe boardroom.
It's just not the way to run abig business, my opinion.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, what was that television show about?
The secret boss?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
or whatever.
Yeah, undercover, undercoverboss or something like that.
Yeah, some of that stuff wasfascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know the boss disguises him or herself.
They go work on the factoryfloor or on the restaurant line
or whatever they're doing andthey really learn like oh wow,
and they see the people that aremaking it happen every day.
Because it's not an uncommonthing if you're in a leadership
(18:03):
position for a while, sometimesyou just kind of remove yourself
from the daily grind of thedecisions of the people that are
making it work and you're upthere taking care of important
issues but you almost have losttouch with the people that are,
you know, making it happen everyday and at least that part of
(18:24):
the business.
And so that show was UndercoverBoss or something.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, Undercover Boss .
Yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And it was like, oh my goodness, I would think for
the people that were willing todo that, the bosses that were
willing to say, hey, I'll godress in clothes like just
normal workers and get downthere and I might learn some
things.
I think they might learn acertain skill, but I think what
they really learned was, youknow, every person is important,
(18:55):
that I just forgot how valuablemy people are.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It was.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
And what a great lesson that we get right here
from John, chapter 4.
The other thing is, jesushelped this woman, let's just
say see a bigger vision of faiththan she had, and I think that
is another valuable lesson fromthis chapter.
(19:20):
And when you spend time withpeople, then you have the
opportunity to impart a biggervision.
That's not the reason you'retalking to them, that's not the
reason you're doing that, butone of the reasons that you
could meet with them is not justto get to know them, see how
(19:40):
they're doing, but also makesure they understand the vision
of the company Do they have anythoughts about it?
And just challenge them to seea bigger vision.
So right before the show I wastelling Tim, I had this quote
from Tom Ziegler, ziegler's son,and it says this some goals
(20:03):
must be out of reach, but notout of sight to make you stretch
and grow to your full potential, and I think that's what this
here is in John, chapter 4.
Jesus was stretching thiswoman's faith to see something
bigger than she saw, and sherealized, as she stretched her
(20:28):
faith, as Jesus was able to dothat that she realized that she
was in the presence of theMessiah, not just a prophet, not
just a holy man, that she wasin the presence of the creator
of the universe, and it justtransformed her life.
So that's one of the byproductsof being with people is to help
(20:51):
, not just put value, help themrealize they're valuable, but to
make sure that they see abigger vision.
You can impart that to them.
So what's?
Some great leadershipprinciples here from you know.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, and that's one of the things I put down in my
notes is you know, jesus sawleadership potential wherein the
woman that others couldn't see,and then she ended up becoming
an evangelist, you know and shewas the first of Samaritan, that
word leader.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
right, yeah, I told you it's been a long day.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's already been a long day in the morning, so, but
yeah, it's.
It's one of those things thatuh, uh.
And how many times have youthink about leaders?
I can think about when I was incorporate.
I can think about it when in mybusinesses, where you see
somebody that you know they havethe leadership potential in
them, um, they just haven't hittheir stride yet, right.
(21:47):
So it's, I've helped, I'mhelping uh one person right now.
She's stepping's stepping outto uh start her own consulting
company.
I've been meeting with her andand uh, man, she's a go-getter.
I knew she would be.
And uh, she's, she's going atit.
I just trying to refocus her.
She's, she's, uh, you know, Itold her you gotta, you gotta
(22:07):
prioritize and you know we'regetting her all done, but I mean
she's, she's getting after itand uh, you know, I love it when
I see things like that you talkabout priorities.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
One of the biggest time wasters for leaders is a
lack of priorities.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Everything seems to be has the same value.
Yeah, and so if you havepriorities which we've talked
about, this from the very firstshow is setting goals, having
priorities, making a to aboutthis from the very first show is
setting goals, havingpriorities, making a to-do list,
working your list.
But if you don't set prioritiesand if you say, okay, my top 10
(22:44):
things to do this week, ifmeeting with some of your people
not your board members, notyour people that you meet with
every week If you're not meetingwith some of your people on the
factory floor or out in thewarehouse or whatever, you're
not meeting with them, Iwouldn't challenge you to
re-look at your priorities, tosay, you know what, I might go
(23:06):
down there for 30 minutes, maybeI'll just hey, thursday, this
section right here, let's do abrown bag lunch.
You're going to eat lunchanyway, so why not just take a
brown bag lunch, eat with someof your people and just sit down
there and get to know them andthey will feel so valuable
because you spent that time withthem.
(23:26):
But it really is a matter ofpriorities.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, it's funny.
When you walked in, that was adocument I was working on.
I go through this every I don'tknow six months.
It's around six months where Ianalyze everything and what's
working, where I'm wasting timeand all this.
So I was actually working on mydaily routine, from when I get
up in the morning to when I gohome at night, and so I was
(23:51):
putting that.
So that was a document I wassaving.
When you walked in the studiotoday is, I was working on
revamping that and changing acouple of things because my
schedule's changed, but I didn'thave it in writing.
I didn't have it where I couldlook at it every day, so I was
revamping and then I added acouple of things I'd forgot that
I haven't been doing lately andso, yes, that's what I was
working on.
(24:11):
So I loved that when you canrefocus and I'm in a big refocus
mode right now, so that's good.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So I know we talked about this a couple of weeks ago
, setting priorities, and so andI used to do this on Sunday
night I would just get out of mylittle card file and I would
write down the things that Ineeded to do that week and then
I would, you know, prioritizethem.
So I would make sure that I gotthat.
(24:42):
You know 80 20 rule.
I would do those things thatwould get 80% of the results.
I would try to get them donedepending on the day, cause we
always had staff meetings onTuesday, full staff meetings on
Tuesdays, and so it's like, okay, what am I going to do on
Monday?
What am I going to do onTuesday?
Who am I meeting with onMondays?
Who am I meeting with onTuesdays?
(25:03):
And I would just sit down andmake my list, because if I
didn't make a list, it wasamazing how little got done.
And so if you're not in thehabit of making a list and
setting your priorities, Iencourage you to do that.
You will be such a betterleader almost immediately.
If you actually not just inyour brain, you can put it on
(25:24):
your phone.
I did old school.
I actually had a card file thatsaid Dean's List and I would
just write them down and I wouldkeep that in my pocket all the
time and it was a habit that Ihad to learn to do, but it was
so valuable, it was very, veryvaluable.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Yeah, and that's what my goal is.
I mean because my to-do list is, I mean I think I have 72
things.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I was going to say it's as tall as you are.
It's crazy right.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But I mean, you're never going to get everything
done, but what you need to do.
For me, my strategy is alwayspick out the three most
important things to accomplishthat day.
They have to be accomplished.
And then I knock them out inthe morning when you're not busy
and you can schedule sort of alittle time, and then all the
(26:11):
others after that, you sort ofpriorities, I mean, we grew up
with the Franklin Covey system,the ABCs one, two, threes, you
know.
But yeah, if you can figure outyour three most important tasks
and just get them done, that wayyou can at least go home at the
end of the day going toaccomplish something, and the
three will be there the next day.
The other three will be therethe next day, but at least that
way you know you're movingforward and you're just not
(26:32):
stagnating or spending time onstuff that you shouldn't there,
should be delegated or deleted,you know.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, and so when you're prioritizing, you're
thinking, okay, one of thethings you might need to do just
as a self-check is to look atyour phone and think how much
screen time time have.
I had Okay, some screen time yougot to do, but it's like when
am I doing my screen time?
Am I doing it a lot in themorning?
Am I doing it before I get towork?
(26:59):
Is that a distraction for me?
Is that setting my agenda forthe day, or am I setting my
agenda for the day?
And I learned a long time agoif I don't set my agenda for the
day, then someone else is goingto set it for me and it might
not be to my advantage, and soyou know.
It's like okay, if I'm workingon a project and my phone rings,
(27:22):
do I automatically answer it?
And I would say yes if it's mywife.
Anyone else?
You know the bishop yes, butanyone else I just like, unless
it's one of my kids.
I was like you know what, I'lljust call them back.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Well, I mean, most of everybody gets called back from
me.
I can see it because I mean andI've said it here before I mean
my ringer has not been on, andgoing on 11 years now I don't
have a ringer on.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
You just turn it off.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I see the phone.
I see it standing right here inthe studio.
I can see if somebody's textingme.
I can see somebody's calling me.
I mean if I want to.
If I don't, I flip it over.
I never even know.
I just keep going, I do my work, I'm focused, but yeah, 11
years I haven't had a ringer on,but it's by our phones.
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Or our newsfeed or social media or whatever.
It's just so easy and that canreally take away from
productivity.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, I just re-downloaded the Facebook app
because the apps are way tooeasy, so every once in a while
I'll just go in and delete it.
That way I still can go ontoFacebook if I do it.
But I have to log on and thenlog off every time and it's a
pain just to.
it's such a thing, just to enteryour password and all this, but
(28:39):
I delete the app and then Idelete it for six months or
whatever.
Get out of that habit of you.
Know.
Just you pick up your phone,you're on the Facebook app or
something.
So I say break that, break that.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Break it.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Break that habit, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And you don't have to wait until the new year to
start a new habit right?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
No, no, you don't, you can start it tomorrow, today
, you can just start it.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
If you haven't made your list for this week.
Sit down tonight and do it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's exactly right.
Yeah, you know, and I meanthat's sort of you know, you can
always go and change everythingthat you need to.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, okay, so we're going to get to chapter five.
How much time do we got?
No, I mean, we're good.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
We're good.
You know, I was like looking atsome dad jokes to try to see
what I can do to compete withyou right.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, so let me ask you this question what school do
surfers go to?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Yeah, where do surfers go to school?
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Surfers go to school.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
They go to boarding school, of course, nice.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I was trying to go with something wave.
How do you catch a squirrel?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
How do you catch a squirrel?
Yeah, pretend to be a nut.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Close.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Climb a tree and act like a nut.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
All right, wow Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Well, that's not hard for me.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
He's looked at like thousands of dad jokes.
It's tough to get them.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
That's why I usually let him do them right okay, so I
ordered 2 000 ounces of hot andsour soup.
Uh-, oh yeah, it was one time,one time yeah, well, I tried to
order some camouflage pants.
But you couldn't find them, butI couldn't find them.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oh, I do too.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Told my wife she should embrace her mistakes.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You know where we're going.
Yeah, she hugged you, shehugged me, right yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I love some of the old ones, man.
I love some of the good ones,you know we had so much rain the
other day here.
Yes, yes, I mean in our house.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
We had, like in two days we had like two and a half
inches of rain, and so I had togo out and, you know, get the
mail, and so I put on myraincoat.
I found a $20 bill in thepocket of my raincoat.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I must have been saving it for a
rainy day.
Yeah, okay, Okay, let's go on.
Let's talk about the Bible.
Let's talk about the Bible.
All right, guys?
Well, thank you for hanging outwith us today.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Wait a minute.
Who do you call?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
for help.
Oh, never mind.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Who do you call for help with your Bluetooth?
I don't know the dentist, ofcourse.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Oh boy, I don't know Where's the moan one.
I need a moan one.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That's almost a moan.
That's close.
I used to moan one.
There you go.
That's almost a moan.
That's close.
I used to be a baker.
Did you know that?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You baked what?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I didn't.
I ended up couldn't be a bakerany longer because I couldn't
make enough dough.
Oh, that's it.
Oh, that's very important.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Okay, did you hear about the woman who couldn't
stop collecting magazines?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
No.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, she had a lot of issues.
All right, let the people go.
We got our anniversary shownext week.
Yes, we do?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
We got dad jokes.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I have saved them up.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
I am ready.
You guys, I need to post somepictures online, just so you can
see all these dad jokes here.
Yeah, you know and that.
But yeah, join us next weekAnniversary show going on two
years.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yes, how exciting is that?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
It's pretty dang exciting.
So you know up to three and ahalf listeners.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
That's good.
Somebody's dog listens.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
But they're an avid listener so we welcome them.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
They're consistent.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Now you know.
Thank you for listening to us.
Check us outbiblicalleadershipshowcom.
Let us know if we can say aprayer.
Any requests?
Give us some good dad jokesbefore next week, please.
We need some good dad jokesOther than that.
Have Other than that.
Have a great day and Dr Poseytakes out.
Make it a great day.
(33:16):
Talk to you soon.
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