December 6, 2022 • 64 mins
No matter if you chose the red or blue pill, it's all purple in this version of the world we live aka this version of the matrix! For this episode I'm joined in this glitchy version of the matrix by CROWNE. CROWNE is a talented singer, songwriter, actress, dancer, talent agent and Operations Director for 216 Talent Agency. She also happens to be my wife *insert heart eyes emoji here*. CROWNE shares her journey to find her own voice amongst the "shoulds" of family and society, show up for the life she manifested, and trust in herself fully. Listen in as we discuss what it's been like as individuals and as a couple who are taking the ultimate trust fall with each other and the universe while we pursue our passions and find balance living in California. Keep up with CROWNE: https://www.instagram.com/crownexo_/https://www.instagram.com/216talentagency/
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Okay, at this point, I'm gonna have to say, Burgos
Grow again. It's a solid minute song.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And the way that I will listen to that six
minute song free time with no room, like won't feel
bad about it. I won't even think twice about it.
But also just the vocals, it's a journey. It is
a whole fucking journey. And then also you know Burgostilium here,
you know little three Mercury, Venus Mars what's up? So
(00:38):
so I can heavily relate to a lot of.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And yeah, again, it's just that song is a master piece.
It really is a masterpiece. And just I love it
so much.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It makes you want to dance, It makes you want
to sing, it makes you want to literally like that's somebody.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, I love that. I love that so much.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm really proud of you because I thought I had
her corner here, y'all, Like selecting one track from Renaissance,
I know that was like literally thinking your children. Yeah,
that's what I'm here for, all right, So, crowd, one
of the things I heard you mentioned in your intro
is that you are wearing so many different hats right now.
(01:20):
You got executive operations director, we got singers, songwriter, graphic designer.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
You know, I can't say that I would ever consider
myself as stellar employee.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I was never the girl.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That showed up and gave her all to her job
because I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
And you know, y'all not gonna still my joy.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Also, like, I also grew up witnessing my parents in
roles that were misaligned for them and being so unhappy,
so incredibly unhappy, I mean to the point where you're
just like just cashing out your uhappiness, thanking your unhappiness ran.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
On everybody else.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I just never wanted that for myself. I never
ever ever wanted that for myself. Yeah, so I just
with that being said, I didn't want to be that
persons and it was more important to me to be
able to recognize and grow out of it than to
keep trying.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
To force something that was working. M M.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That's real, that trying to force something that wasn't working.
That was definitely something that I experienced throughout my time. Now,
I personally was a corporate girl, I very much so.
The goal was the regional job at the corner office,
and I when I achieved that, I again was very unfulfilled.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I thought to myself like, wow, these are the people
in the room. Now, this is it. This is what
I get when I get here.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And thinking like damn this, this really isn't what I
wanted after all. But going through that, I also was
thinking like, Okay, maybe it's just the setting because I
was in HR and we could do anything. So I'm like,
maybe it was just this one place. Maybe it was
that job.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Maybe it was them. No, no, no, it was me that
was misaligned. Man.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, when you finally all right, you're like, all right,
I know this isn't for me. I have known for
a long time that this isn't for me. This is
not what I want in any way, shape or form.
The direct deposit does not bring me enough joy to
counter off counter set, you know, the grief that I
feel about having to go to work in general.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Did you plan to quit?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
What was that process like of like, Okay, I trust
myself enough to walk away from my job.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So what ended up happening was when I took that job,
I started in the summertime, so I was doing.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Camp full time.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It wasn't a bad exhaustion per se, but it was
the type of exhaustion that like just robbed me up
any energy to foreign to myself at the end of
the days, like a full body, full body exhaustion. I mean,
like mind, body, spirit. Everything has been tired because I've
been firing from all cylinders, mind, body and soul. No CP,
no late night commercial. I love that you had to
(04:10):
get them in. But I knew that that would be
my last job. I knew that that was gonna be
my last job. I had agreed to, you know, try
a school year after camp and again really just knowing
(04:30):
that I, you know, would want the income.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But also the people I worked with are pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Like I will say that that was one workplace where
I was very fortunate to get along with the damn
near everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That was there. Yeah, it's not a given.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's not it's not, and I don't think that's for granted, right,
Still really grateful for those people. It just I was
not supposed to be there in that in that capacity,
and it just.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Became more and more more and more and more apparent.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
With every day that came, and I dread going there
or dread you know, having to do things with the kids.
And again, I love the kids, like I still think,
I still think about my DA all the time, and
I hope they're doing well. I love them, I pray
for them.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But like we still have their art on the refrigerators,
still have their art on the refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I have it in my office still, Like I look
at their photos and I remember their names. And at
the same time, I realized, like I am not being
of the best service to you in this capacity by
you seeing me shrink myself.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I can't serve you that way, you know what I mean,
Like I can.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I can only give you what what I have and
from a shrunken state, and that's not that's not enough.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So in order to best be able to like give
back I have, I have to stand, I have afraise
all of that.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I have to not be afraid of who I am
and what I know, so that whole I can lead
by example and you know, give some of them the
permission to.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Do those things in their lives. So that was that
was one thing that cook for me and the decision
to quit.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And then also throughout that time I again and just
getting clear in that right because in about December of
twenty twenty one, Yeah, they asked if I wanted to
extend my contract because.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
They loved you know what I mean, it was the
love was mutual. I really loved them.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
They loved having me there, and they wanted to keep
and I, you know, on one hand, I was like,
I mean, like the money, whatever, it sounds good, but
like no, but no, I don't know again because I again,
(06:48):
I I'm coming to a point where I am valuing
so deeply myself, my own voice, my own power. And
I was done playing games with myself, you know what
I mean. I was then playing small with myself. So
I made that decision. I mean, they gave me a while.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, they gave me a long time about it. Really,
that's what I say. They bucked with me. They fucked
with me the long way. Yeah, they gave me a
long time.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And I went back and forth over it, and you know,
I talked to you about it, I talked for our
friends about it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But it just it wasn't it wasn't what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And so in December of twenty twenty one, I wrote
down in a in a journal, I wrote down that
they were asking me to do this thing, and I
just mentioned that it felt so out of alignment. But
then I also mentioned that I wanted to start taking
dance classes again and to start building up those muscles.
(07:46):
And there was a studio that I have been directed
to from a friend on the other side me and
you know, just kind of pointed me that way. And
when I saw the name of the studio, it's a
Studio two and six. And again I'm from Cleveland, I
could recognize the Cleveland nigga shit.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Whoo so fast.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And so I was like, they from Cleveland, like they're
from like they from like from home, from home. Yes,
But I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So I started taking some dance classes there and I
wrote down in that journal that you know, that network,
that that place, It just it felt like such a
It literally it felt for me right like it felt
like I was being led there for a reason. It
felt like I had something to do there and that
my people were probably there.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And so I started taking those dance classes.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I would try to go like at least once a week,
but again, just really building that muscle and also just
getting back into my body because I think part of
being a creative. At that point, I was only really
singing and I had kind of divorced like my creative
side from my body, and I was having a hard
time understanding why it wasn't feeling as cohesive, but incorporating
(09:07):
my body back into my art really just had opened.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Up so many things from there.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So I was taking classes, baking classes, and then April
I see a flyer they posted on Instagram for an audition,
and I O, I've been asking for clients. I've been
asking for opportunities. I've been asking for you know, literally
since a flyers here you go for chances to jump,
to take the leap. And I was like, okay, well, okay,
(09:34):
I'm a register, yes, And so I registered went to
that audition on what was probably one of like the
my old worst weekends of my life that it was
a very different one.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
It was. It was really tough. It was a tumultuous time.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Almost didn't go to the point where I was feeling
so defeated that I was like, you know what, maybe this.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Isn't what was for me.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And I'm so grateful because my my lovely wife talked
me into going, you know, the one who really gave
me that push, gave me that encouragement, and so I went.
I went like literally crying and I said, I was
crying on the way there, sobbing in the car before
the interview or before the audition, looked at the clock,
(10:19):
was like, I have five minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
White my face. They're one of those like just put
on a cheer smile.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And I went in and I felt like I was
rusty in like you know, those some of the techniques
that they were looking for.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And I was like, Okay, no expectations. I'm really going
as an.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Exercise and not letting the universe, not not not telling
the universe, no for me, for myself, because I had
talked to myself out so many and so I'm just okay,
I'm gonna give myself a chance to just give to
go see what happens. I'm not expecting anything. I'm expecting
to be like ooh girl, you know we got some classes.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Why don't you try so again.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I left feeling like I did horrible, but I went
and so I felt I felt good in that I
felt affirmed in.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
In that practice and that exercise.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
A few days later, I get a call saying, hey,
we really loved you. We you know, we want to
bring you on. Yes, there's some things we want to
brush you up on. Technically, we'd love to have you
start as an understudy, and I'm like, oh, because also
that was the second part of the test, right, Like
the first part is going, but the second part is
accepting it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, it's saying yes, that is true, accepting what comes
of the test and when you say yes to yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Mm hmmmm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So that was because I had the whole thing of like,
we do I do I say?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Like do I say yes? Like oh, like y'all for real,
like y'all for really, you see me? You see me? Oh, okay,
so I have to keep going.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah I went, but now I had to show up,
and so I decided to show up because again, I
didn't want to be I didn't want to be in
this space of limbo between knowing what I could be
doing and settling for what's in front of me. So
I decided, okay, well again, we're just gonna jump in,
(12:19):
We're gonna take that punch, and started going through rehearsals.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It was a lot of fun. It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
From the third or fourth rehearsal, I've been moved up
to one of the like, so it was just it
was a really cool experience. And then from there my
network just kind of grew and blossomed throughout the throughout the.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Studio, and then that literally and turned into a few months.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Getting a call from the owner of the studio saying, hey,
I love your energy, I love what you can do,
I know what you can do.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I want to work with you some.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
More, and being invited onto two and sixth Coal Agency,
so literally building it from the ground up. It's given
me the chance too to stand in everything right, to
stand in not just my art.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
My artistry, but also the standard like my leadership because I.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Know what I'm talking about very true and yeah, I
you know, I'm I'm capable of being a leader.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I am capable of bringing people up to speed and
like also making sure that we're we're moving forward.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
How Like that's how I ended up from there to
hear it's been a crazy year. Like honestly, if you
would have told me this time last year, I would
be listening, like, yeah, I might cutch you out, you
know what I mean, like playing face, But really it's crazy,
not it's not crazy, but the biggest thing that that
(13:46):
the biggest factor was just the change in perspective is
deciding that no, I can do this and I am
worthy of this. I am deserving of this. And so
if I tell myself, yes, who can tell me?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Period? Well, I guess you an interview there was congratulations
like new found alignment. All right. So we have touched
on a lot already.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
One of the things that I want to make sure
that we get to is actually, like the process of
quitting your job?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
What was that process? Like did you go through the.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Formal two weeks notice and then they had some time
after and all of that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What was the process of quitting your job?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Like I had made the like internal decision, I ain't
going back there, so do what y'all want.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I won't be there. But then you know, you have
to tell them back.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So I it's funny, I have I ended up, you know,
forming a.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Sisterhood some of the people that were there, and so
I told them.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Personally obviously they're not like the boss anything that I
wanted to have, you know, yeah, and make sure that
they were you know, yeah, tell your girls girls.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah. So I let them know, and everybody was really
supportive and I really appreciated that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And then from that point, one of my duties in
the circle also worked closer to the director and so
she was like, girl, I.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Love you, so proud of you. Happy. She was like,
I got we here, I love it. When are you
gonna tell her? Yeah, because I'm gonna have to start
with you know, like start right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And I was like, you're right, I'm not trying to
make your life hard, right, Like I'm not trying to.
I want I want to send you right. So I
was like all right, boom. So I made a plan
that I would sit down and talk.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
With her in a school year ended in so early April,
I was like, okay, about the second, I'll you know,
I want to talk to her. I want to have a.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Conversation because I also wanted to let her know like
I was over that, but I didn't need to tell her,
and I wanted to just because some of those things
lead some feedback.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
There were also some instances.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Where I just felt like I could have had more
support in doing our job.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And I am not a woman show, not in that sense,
so not for this but anything else.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But so I did have a conversation with her in April,
and I just went into her office and was like, Hey,
I want to just follow up on, you know, the
earlier offer that you made I know you gave me
so much time to think about it. Thank you for that. However,
this is no longer in alignment.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah bicycle horn if they'll look good. But yeah, so
I just let her know. I you know, I appreciate
this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I appreciate knowing you, but this isn't for me, Like,
this isn't where I'm supposed to.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Be right now. It's not what I'm going to do time.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And I mentioned, you know, like I I'm not serving
the kids in the greatest capacity that I could see
by being here.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
So I'm gonna go ahead and finish out the school year.
I will be here for everybody's last day, but I'm
not going to be here for a place that Yeah.
So uh it went.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I mean, the conversation itself pretty well but very understanding.
Again it was I'm I was fortunate to have a
team and managers that were people. Yes, yes, there were people,
and they were receptive.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
To the fact that life as a human can be.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Hard and things changed, and so I I was again
wished I was said, wish me well. I did submit
a letter just like a week or two before my
last day, just to make.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Sure I got paid and that was that. The last
day of school came.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I gave out hugs a lot that the parents were
sad to see me go, but also super excited.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, which was really cool.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Again, like I you can't you can't really ask for
better than that, right, So it was really it was
really cool.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It was really sweet. But I I love Dan.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, and it sounds like those are really smooth. And
you know, there are times where folks will submitting resignation.
Then it gets a little cold and awkward at work,
you know, people are like, I mean any short timers.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Like yes, I will be leaving here.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Your voice like you're little jealous, But it sounds like
y'all don't really have that there, which is really really dope.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I had like the occasion of a coworkers like are
you sure you don't want to? Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And again that I felt like that was more from
a place of just love and like, you know, not
wanting to, not wanting to part ways, but at the
same time still very very supportive of like the love.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Please let us know when we can come see you.
We'd love to come support you. I'm really proud of you.
I think so again, I can.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Have solid and so your coworkers were really supportive, and
we have mutual friends and obviously their team quit that ship.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Inside we joke about.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Like, yeah, quitting being addictive because everyone in our group
has quit at least one job in the last year
or so, which.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Is funny to say. But so, in thinking about the
support that you.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Had, were there any people in your life, family, friends,
or otherwise that were like.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Or that kind of gave you pause and so like, hey,
maybe you should preconsider.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
You wouldn't say that My parents were directly opposed, but
they are very traditional in the sense of well, what
are you gonna do for money now?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
M and yeah, yeah, And I mean it's understandable, right, Like,
there are many things, whether it's putting a job or
deciding to change career paths, whatever it may be, that
elicit that strong response from folks, especially like our parents'
generation and the different older the different elders that came
(20:03):
before us that are really out of a place of
like love, you know. But it comes off as ears,
it comes off as projection, it comes off as like
don't do that, you know, And they're just not able
to say, like I'm worried about you, Yeah, I'm worried
that you're not gonna be able to take care of
yourself and your bills and these damn pats. So it's
one of those things where you know it's coming from
(20:23):
a place of love, but again, those projections can actually
be more damaging than they are.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You and I were in a really unique position at.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The time that you quit your job because I had
also quit my job, not even it had been a
full year, maybe like eight months before you left, and
we were having these conversations about you leaving since, like
you mentioned December, and I know, at no point was
I like, no, you should keep that job. And as
(20:53):
like a spouse as a partner, I was very aware
of how both of our jobs were impacting our relationship
to the point where we actually one of the reasons
we were seeing doctor Rogue was because I was so
unhappy and it was impacting our relationship. We were both
unhappy in our jobs and those were some of the
major sticking points for us, and they didn't have anything
(21:14):
to do with each other, but there's so much energy
and jobs and it just was draining energy from us.
But coming back to you leaving again, at no point
was I like, no, you should stay, So you should stay.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I definitely know that.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I was like not panicking, but asking the question of, like, well,
what are we going to do? You know, and so
I would love to hear like from your perspective, But
that was like, as you're making this decision to resign
from your job and we both.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Of us to be fun employed, terrifying. Oh my god,
I was so scary. It was so scary, And it
was like, this is one things that we actually had
talked about this in therapy because like at one point,
you know, we had the idea of, well, no, you're
you're pursuing your things right now, so I have to
you know, I have to stay here in this thing
(22:05):
that's making me unhappy.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Somebody has to you know, stay pumped in.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So yeah, and just at one point she posted the
question of why don't you both.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Like what y'all both jump you know what? Right, and
like exercising that trust universal.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Especially if you are moving, especially if you are moving
in that actually you.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Know, meet meet you where you are. It was so
it was terrified.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It was so scary even in weighing that decision, right,
like that was part of what took so long in
making that deliberation of like, well, if I'm not doing
this thing that I hate, well then what you know
what I mean, like Lis is bringing in money like
like that that was the only thing was bringing in,
(22:53):
Like what it was taking out ended up being more
than the money that they brought it. Yeah, and so
the you know, at some point believing that both of
us are had been brought to this point for a reason.
And you know, again it was like our move out
here now or never. This is our face done time truly,
(23:15):
so let's jump. I mean it's not the first time
we've done it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, every every jump has just gotten a little bigger
and bigger. But the rewards are also I agree.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So yeah, I think that in like you're mentioning the
move out here. So for context, like I mention the
Crown and I met in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I had moved out there for work, you know, for
your girl.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I had relocated for work, and we met when she
was finishing a college college.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yes, yes, I know, everything everything for a reason, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But when we met and decided to move to California,
we didn't have anything, honey, like we had.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
We took whatever could fit in our two cars. At
the time. The rest went to your parents' house for storage.
We put some stuff in storage.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
We didn't keep the storage and so that, but we
took whatever fit in our cars. We paid our deposit
for our apartment. Our friend Carly joined us, which I'll
definitely be talking with her soon.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
She just put her job.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
But so we took what we had and we really
went on in this face that everything is going to
work out, and literally came to San Diego from Ohio,
drove out what like three days or something, barely had
the gas to make it, had to make the calls
a few times home like hey, you said another twenty
but we did. We did make it, and I think
within two weeks of being in California we both had jobs,
(24:41):
you know, and we're trying to figure it out and
really able to get on our feet and still went
through things throughout the years of like again trial and
error in this alignment, which caused some of those processess
to be slower, But then we were able to find
a stride and really get into things. We were doing well,
and in the pandemic hit, which causes you were still working,
(25:04):
but I had lost my job because of the pandemic.
So we're in this space of life. Okay, what are
we gonna do? But then fast forward to us both
leaving our jobs within this last year, and I was
talking to a friend, I think it was Carley, and
I was saying that, honestly, there would not have been
another time in life that we would have been able
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to do something like this. Right, We're not nate planners
by nature, I would say of our coupledom for something, sure,
but not long term planner is.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Not for real, No, not at this stage. And so
we didn't have money sake though.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
It's not like we both put these jobs and had
like take pay sitting around somewhere like no no, which
in California, what is that anyway?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Well, would be anyway five dollars arret when I say
there's not another time that we could have done this.
Because of the pandemic that is going on, we were
able to access different resources, you know, whether it was
the mental assistance program or even slight and y'all seen
the prices of the grocery. We had these resources available,
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and again the support of the universe, the opportunities that
have opened up since we really have decided to live.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
In our truth, which sounds so cheesy. I actually kind
of hate it, saying to actually just have fun and
enjoy life.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
While this is the time where the university say we
got you, we got you, you know, and things it leaps.
We've been tested, whether it's the offering of new jobs
or you know, we've got to knock at the door,
like for the money at from the landlord, and even
that has worked itself out. So that's something that I've
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definitely considered as we made this transition together. But I
love what you said about like let's taking a leap
together and the leaves have gotten bigger, but there rewards
of God bigger.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's so true.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, So like all of the tests, I feel like,
are they literally just keep preparing us for bigger.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
We couldn't have known coming out here, however many years ago,
that it would have planted us in this spot, or.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
All of the transformations that we've both gone through, like
individually and as a couple, because we're we're we are
both different people.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And we are a different couple than we were when
we moved out here in m HM.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So I mean, yeah, just every every chance gotten bigger
and bigger. And then like you said, the pandemic really really,
I mean, it rocks the fuck out of everybody, to
be honest, but also but it also like it just
broke down the gate. It's knock that wide open to
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to really just stepping into what is for you.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Life is so short, you know what I mean, And
this simulation SUCKSIO sucks, so you might as well have fun,
like you know what I mean, Just do what do
what is really fulfilling to you because you never know,
like you never know. And I realized throughout that time,
like I don't want to get to the end of
my life and have all of these.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
If I would have like you, like you would say
when we first you know, when we first met and
started dating, if I didn't have to have this real job,
if I didn't have to do whatever, if I didn't
have to live live out of alignment.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And I don't have to you know what I mean,
I just have to get myself too to step up. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's so real. Twenty twenty brought that realization, and even that.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Said, it's twenty twenty two, it still took us over
a year to really be like, okay, do the real
trust fall with the universe.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And with each other.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, you know, there is a certain amount of trust
that we had to have in one another's partners that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Like I got you, I got you, we got each other.
We're in this together.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And I think again, like that that reference jumping together,
it really did. It does at times feel like we
have jumped off a cliff together hand in hand, and we're.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Like sometimes it's like what like oh my god, sometimes
the betek and sometimes yeah it's fun and sometimes it's fun,
but either way, like we're in it together.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So that's something I really appreciate.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
And again the growth throughout the last couple of years,
taking what the universe has given us to get up
to La, and that getting the job up here in LA,
which is why we relocated. Being also the push to
say like no, no, no, you can't do this anymore. It's
for me to step into alignment and then for you to.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Be right behind. It was just like 's kiss yeah, perfect.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, and thank you for taking that jump with me
too to LA because I'm like, I just I got
a ping of like go for it, you know what
I mean, Like like you said, the gates are open,
do it now.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Because moving to LA wasn't our plan, but it was
in our five planning moving to LA maybe five and
a little bit later.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But something just said, like girl, m h by the
so short, like I said, You're not promised tomorrow, So
do what you.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Want to do today, today, today. Yeah, be where you
want to be, Go where you want to go. I
should so real, so real. Well, thank you for sharing.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
So coming back a little bit to the more general conversation,
even though for partners that are thinking about putting COVID
resonated with y'all, feel free to reach out to us
web online.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
We've buff left. And I know that I have gone
through several adjustments, uh, several tweaks, changes, whether it's to
schedule or diet, or to how I'm moving through the world,
what I'm pursuing and all that. What would you say
is been the biggest adjustment for you since dam ask
you a good question?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I mean, okay, so like I know, like you said,
you you really have gone through so many candibul daily
lifestyle things, just like you said, your dressed and with.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Your your food and just how you how you organize
your day.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
I don't I should think I'm going into uh yeah,
that would absolutely be edited out anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
That But yeah, it says a change in meat. But
oh okay, now here's what I would say. Here's what
I would say.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I wake up to say I put on exactly what
the fuck? Ooh that is it? Like that's it. And
I was talking with some friends about this a few
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But like the mindset of I have my work clothes
and I have my fun clothes, right like, I have
things that I can wear that are considered appropriate to
having a job and maintaining respectability. And then I have
things that I actually like to wear. For those of
y'all full disclosure, I'm a Hucci monk.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And I love that. For me, you know, I live it.
For me, I stand tantos down in it. I do
not like wearing a lot of clothes.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Also learning more about myself through the lens of like neurodivergence,
understanding that like sensory wise, I don't like having a
lot of things on my body like I just I don't.
So I can wake up and put on a cute
little Pucci fit, or even if it's not a who fit,
Like I I wake up and put on a dress
with heels, and I'm going to the grocery store, you
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know what I mean, Like, but I have been dressing
for myself on a daily basis, and that mind shift
of like, no, bitch, I am living this life for
me every.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Day, for real, all day, every day, every day. It's
it's been so liberating. It's been it really has been
one of my favorite things.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, to just be able to really fully show up
as myself every day everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I wear this to the office, you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And what and what and I walk in They're like,
ooh girl, you cute, like you know, so yeah, I'd
say that I would be the single biggest, the single
biggest change and shift that really has.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Just I love it. I love there for you. I
love it for you, especially like getting to witness it.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I think it's really cool to see the change in people,
whether they're putting their jobs, positioning, or trying something new,
but to see it up close because we obviously live together.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
It's been so cool.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
It's like a like a you know, and we haven't
like burned any of her work T shirts yet, but
I know, right, I know, it brings great joy to
not have to put it on every day or even
like I mean because at that point, you know, working
with kids, you can wear so much, right, so I
have to wear like a like a stiff ass cotton
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T shirt with some shorts that are at least me
like air quotes, not not for you know, not to
not excuse me them one because I don't like that's hard,
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that's not it, but like comfort, personal comfort, Like I
wasn't going in my shorts, you know, I wasn't going
to work in my death shorts because that's too much.
So I have to find a pair of leggings and
a T shirt and some kind of shoes.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
My hair is just like.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
That would be neat meth No, I mean ship not
mean you got your dinner Bermuda as I'm absolutely talking about.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
You right now. Oh, I mean, well some of the
work is absolutely did so, yeah, you're talking about them.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But I was never gonna be regardless. I was just
gonna come up with a different pair of shorts, you know,
just something different to wear.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, like having having that freedom in my body and
in what I wear and how I show up, Yeah,
and not having to worry about because it's not like
I cared. Also, it's not like I really give a
about what people thought about it. But again it's more
so that like I I've worked with kids, you know
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what I mean, and and they see they see me
out and about in the neighborhood, they're gonna, you know
what I mean, I don't. I don't want to do that,
and I don't want to have to maintain the dissonance
of like this is who I show up as work
and this is who I show up as in.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
My life like in real life.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
A yeah, I think the dissonance of splitting yourself between
who you are at work and who you are irl
is something that's really interesting and not talking about, you know,
uh something. That's why I was so interested in that
show Severance, like Apple plus YEA or Apple TV, because it's.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Just like wow, the idea of fully not even knowing.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Who you are at work and then who you are
outside of work is the concept that again we don't
talk about enough because it's the same reason why like
when I would pull into the parking lot at work,
I would turn my music down, you know, like I'm
in the car turned up to wash my shoe by
a little way, because you know, when the lighter flicks
for no ceilings, that a classic is about to play, right,
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but like, I'm turning that down because I'm pulling in
the parking on.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
The inverse who've always been anti corporate.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I pull to the spaces and I'm like, uh, louder louder, Yeah, Yeah,
we're all gonna be wrapping with some something Megan today,
We're all gonna be wrapping Magie.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
She just recently brought out her pumpkin Head pictures and
that's uh, in like consolidating who you are all into
one person now because you don't have to compartment lives,
you get to just just you.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yes, yeah, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
So one of the things that job du bring can
We touched on this a little bit though, is right,
and somebody who is in the creative field, money can
be up and down and all around.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Sometimes the payments are slow and all of that.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
What has your experience been like thus far finance wise
since stepping into the full time period of.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie, still a work in progress,
you know, I'm still building that part. It's not where
I want it to be just yet.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
But the opportunities that I can already see lined up
ahead of me for the next few months, I am.
I'm confident that that is on its way.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
So I have a lot of faith in the universe
and spirit in that regard, And honestly, like even though
money has been tie, everything that I've needed has has
done Like every need had been met. I haven't had
to go without.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I haven't had to really settle, you know what I mean.
So again that that faith muscle has been exercised very
much so over this year.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
But I'm.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
But it's so strong now at this point where I'm
just like the money is coming, like it's already on
its way in the main, it's on its way to me. Again,
there are a lot of things lined up with the agency,
with Black Frim experiment that we do together.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Like it's the least of my concern.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Actually, yeah, because I know that that, Like I'm not.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I wasn't sent to do this work for the money,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I wasn't That money was never the motivator. Yeah, it's
a resource, and so more of those resources will continually
make themselves available to me so long as I keep
putting myself in the right spaces in alignment.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
And and and and make myself able to receive them.
Stay open. To receive a left hand is to stay open, like.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Okay, because whatever spirits got for me, girl, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You know what I mean. I'm doing work and I'm
showing up.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
And and we talked last night. We're big on affirmations,
and so one of the things that we were affirming
and I was just saying out loud, is that like,
money is not the motivator, but we're blessed to have
gifts that allow us to make money. You know, that
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we can say like, hey, I'm manifesting this from this
and enjoying it and again not letting that be the
end all be all, because that often takes away from
what it is that we're trying to do, whether it
be this podcast or your work with the talent agency.
If we were all in it for money, it would
be incredibly stressful. Because we're still in the building phase,
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you know. And when I say still in the building phase,
we know we can both see like okay this, Yeah,
we're on the right path and it feels so good.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And again, we have not gone without with things have
been tight.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
But I think even in that tightness that we will
look flexible and say look tight.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
But even in that tightness. I think it's helped us
to refine again what we want versus what we need,
and also just enhancing the gratitude, you know, being so
thankful for this space. You know, we're sitting in my
office right now. You have an office in addition to
our room.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Like it's just it's really beautiful to still be in
these spaces and feel worthy, feel as though we're aligned
and we're safe, and that because we are.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
In this alignment, all of those things are coming. Because
being in alignment doesn't mean looking forward only to the
direct deposit.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
No, we're looking forward to every day, like actually looking
forward to sending these emails, the setting up the messages
or even recording this. You know, I think something like
this podcast where right now I'm doing everything right. I'm
the videographer and the editor and the promoter and this
and that and this and the same with you as
an agency where you've got a title, but I mean,
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there's really nothing you don't touch. Like you're cleaning the
you're cleaning the studio, you're talking to tell you're interviewing people,
you're helping with contract boo boo boo.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
That would be stressful.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I think if it was like, oh my god, I
have to get this set and because if I don't
get this done by this time, I won't get it
posted by that time, and then I won't make money
because I'm out of my posting window. But no, no,
this money is such a pickle motivator.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
She doesn't like to stay around like that. It's a resource.
And we were talking. I don't remember when this was,
but you know.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Just it'stounding on, you know, the full fault. The love
of money is money gets me from pointing to point
b like, but loving it has got me nowhere at
any point. And then I observe the people who have
fallen for the love of money, and where is their happiness?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Like, you know what I mean, where is their joy at?
Because it's not okay, period period. I consider myself a
condiment and joy. I considered that one of my greatest gifts,
of my greatest skills. I don't play about that, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
That boundary is strong. So if it's going to take
away from my joy to eat.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
On it, if shake it, it is not worth it. Period.
It's just not worth it.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
That is such a big part of leaving, too, of
saying like, no, my happiness is worth more than the
job period, Like y'all could never pay me enough, and
I ever, ever, it was never going to be. And
this morning I was on my walk and meditation.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
It came to me when I'm like really focusing on
this week, this month, this year's life.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Is that if I commit to myself, I'll watch my
manifestations brow but if I enjoy the process, I watch
them exceed my expectations. So that's really where I'm at,
Like it's like I just want to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I don't know what it's time, but yeah, what what
else is the point? Honestly? Really, what else is the point?
Speaker 3 (44:11):
What's the point of making the money if you can't
enjoy it? What's the point of working and being miserable
why you're doing it or not even miserable but just
kind of like disconnected from your truth self.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
While you're doing and it's not worth it. And I
don't want to get to the end of life and
rehire and be like, Okay, now I can live, Like
but maybe the society is crumbling. Why are you really, sir?
These rules are made up. They change every five minutes depending.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
On who you are, Like who cares literally and it's
funny because in my right there's obviously more to it.
But I think that's what the whole like, not wellness overall,
but like the that's the secret to life type of
thing is that tree is really based on, right, The
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secret is to enjoy your life. Yeah, the secret is
to have fun and do what you want and believe
in yourself and be clear about what you want and
just enjoy the process.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
And then things will continue to work out for you.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Also, like the believing in yourself, like delusional levels of belief, yes, but.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
But like they are so powerful, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Mean, your delusional beliefs because spirit the universe, you know,
isn't really their Their universe isn't ready to tell you
now the universe you telling yourself no over and over
and over again. So if you throw that delusional ass
leap out there, the universe is actually my catch it
and throw you something, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Like, you just have to be willing to believe, like
you said, that you're worthy and not even of those
delusions of granjoy you could you can turn into the
new reality if you so true. It's just all about
what you what you are willing to believe that you
are worth of what you're willing to well, you're willing
to believe that you are true. Yeah. True. I love that.
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Love it, love it. And as we're talking about all
these great things that Spirit.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Like, you know, they were playing kids and Spirit is
hitting back to what would you say has been your
biggest win or gift thus far in your journey?
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Is a full time creation. There's been a lot a
lot of people say that. I'm like, yeah, tell me
about man, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
At this point, I would just say the network that
I've been introduced into and the opportunities that have come
from that.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
This time last year, I had done zero you know
what I mean shows in LA I have no no
real network, And like right now I have three you know,
hop Pam shows on my resume.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
From the last few months. Like I really just had
two shows back back last week.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, and so again, it's just all because of this
network that I have gotten, you know, the chance to
be a part of. And the only reason I've I've
got a chance to be a part of that network
is because I stepped into Alignment. Like that's it, Like
I stepped into something that felt like it was right
for me and for the human design people because I
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know that is also an even designed person.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I'm a four to one generator, so you know that
four line my network.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
It's a big part of you know, how I moved
through the world in my design. But I have had
to learn the lesson this last year of like it
will only work for me if I am putting myself
in the line space, Like it doesn't matter who I meet,
because I'm gonna meet people wherever I go. I'll meet
people that I love.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Wherever I go.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I love message Well, you know, at my my former
place of employment.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
As you know, y'all, y'all know what it is.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
And at the same time, you know they were brought
into my life for a reason. But other people, you know,
if it's not meant to be, it's not going to last.
And so the current current network, current relationships that I'm
building right now there, first of all, they're they're just
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very aligned, they're very authentic. It's just clicking right away,
you know what I mean, being on the same page
right away, or having mutual ideas or reciprocal energy exchanges,
like things that are just kind of have been blowing
my mind as far as like, Wow, I didn't realize
I could even be the one to receive.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
All of this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, so all of those things that come so naturally on,
all I had to do was put myself in the
right spaces and everything else unfolded on its own.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
I really didn't see that much.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
That's the gift of connection that comes when you're in
alignment is something that I don't I don't know folks
are aware of the right because we just kind of think, oh, well,
I've met people all the time, but you look back
and speak on some of those connections. I mean, going
as far back to again recipes Spivey, that.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Connection is what brought you all the way here.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Spyby is someone that you had known from way back childhood,
from childhood, So that connection is our gift. And when
you're moving in alignment, those gifts just continue to come
and come and open the gift to talk to people,
connect with folks. I know that our society could be
really individualistic, and at times I'm a two four manifesting
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generator in HD, so that makes me want to like
in the shell like hid and be to myself at times.
But when I do reach out to folks when we
do like go, we do connect. I mean it is
so it's like magical, yeah, you know, and it's really cute.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
He was like, oh, look at this person. I just
went there, so cool.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
And then we do something really cool together, it's like,
oh wow, I love it. So that gift to connection
is really beautiful and appreciate you sharing that. So in
the connection space, one of the ones that you have
talked about, you know, Executive Operations director, has been the
gifts that have come from joining the two and six
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Talent Agents.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
So definitely want to take some time and have you.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Talked about what's going on with that, tell us more
about the agency.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
So again, this opportunity came about because the owner of
Studio two and SI he's also multi hyphene it right,
so we related on that on that level. Dancer entertainer sings, wraps,
plays a few instruments, and so we met.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
I was dancing for him on this.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
Tour and again that we just kind of clicked. We
had a really really authentic connection as far as being
able to trust each other and being able to just
kind of get on the same page and have a
metal understanding and mental vision.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
And uh so when the opportunity came, he called me
at the end of the summer and was essentially like, hey,
you know, I'm I'm starting this endeavor.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
I really I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
It wasn't like he called an offered you know, this
is your role, but just like, hey, this.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Is what I'm thinking. I want to bring you on board.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
And I was like yeah, because it was just it
was such a full body yes. It was just like yes,
like yes, I and even like in in knowing that
I was supposed to be in entertainment, I can I
can tell you that I've never had like one job
that I.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Wanted to do. I want to do it all, right, I
want all I want to do so many things.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
And so it was an opportunity that was putting me
in the position to be able to do it all
from both sides, right, because not only do I work with.
Speaker 6 (52:05):
The agency I represented about you.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
So yeah, so I mean bringing me in.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
Initially we were just kind of building groundworks of like
so what do we even want this to look?
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Like?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
What is our goal? Like who not who are we serving?
But like you know, what are we bringing to the table,
how are we making ourselves. How are we standing out
from from this traditional agency? And you know, we established
that yes, while we are an agency, we do you know,
manage our talents careers. We also have so much more
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to offer since owning the studios. He's like, I mean
we need production. We can do shows, we can do
passion projects, we can do content, we can do all
of these things. So it was again a really fun
exercise in naming all of the this and stepping into
all of the bigness that we're capable of. And it
(53:05):
just kind of transformed, like said, just throwing out ideas
into executing it and then you know, we need this that.
In the third I'm like, okay, great, I you know
have experienced doing websites, so I'm like, okay, great, I'll
start building this out. And things just kind of progressed
very naturally, very naturally into working really really closely with
(53:26):
him to get this up and running. And so it
just kind of evolved. It's like, hey, you know, girl,
you know everything. You know what I mean, you know
where these things are, You organize this, did that, you
did this.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
You want to run direction and run operations, And I'm like, yeah,
I'm kind.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Of doing that anyway, and like not doing it as
a sense of like, you know, I'm the one that
has to why can't I, But like I just I was.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Enjoying what I was doing, you know what I mean.
It's just so passionate about.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
About the agency and where I know it's going right,
like where we.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Can both see it in the future.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
So I was like, yeah, I have no problem building
this foundation, no problem talking in and you know, pickering
and making sure that we have things set so that
way we can really step into this space.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
So that's what that's been like Again, it's been so cool.
It's been so fun. I love my team. I love,
love love my team. I love everybody that's there that shows.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Up, our clients.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Fuck, we represent the ross creatives here at an agency,
So you.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Are including my lovely wife, you know, proper ship to talent.
Yeah talent. You know we're also available for a couple
of we really are. Please help us become this lesbian
couple we would love to be. Yes, No, really, we've been.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Joking about this to lesbian couple things for years because
for the first like my gosh, six years of our relationship,
we would get these people will take pictures of us
for free, like professional photos, and every now and then
there's one set of photos of us that makes the
round on grounds on Instagram and we're like, we should
(55:14):
really do something with that.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Girl who wants to run another Instagram page?
Speaker 3 (55:19):
Fairly so, but yeah, if you're interested, we would love
to two things for you.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah quick syebar, Yeah, quick sidebar.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
But yes, I love that with the with the agency,
I personally think it's like such a beautiful thing to
watch and it's such a fit for you. It's so
cool to watch you step into that because I have
always known that you have like strong leadership capabilities. But
being in the corporate world, this wasn't it wasn't fit,
you know, it wasn't giving you the opportunity to shine away.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
So they were trying to drown you in paperwork, which
is you know. Yes, So we've talked about two and
six Talent Agency again. Check them out on Instagram. They
are in Van Nuys.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
If you're in California and you like take classes that
is two one six studio or Studio two and six,
So studio two one six classes two one six Talent Agency.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
If you have the challenge. So we talked about that.
What's going on with Crown projects coming up? Coming out?
Speaker 3 (56:21):
And yes, I'm putting you on the spot. I would
love to know when the Oreo mixtape is dropping.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
WHOA wow, like you said, so a little contact, a.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
Little insider trading, a little yeah, the Oriol mixtape is
a project that let me just drop in my spirit. Actually,
I will tell you exactly the project dot heir because
I was working again, working jobs that were just missingigned right.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
I wasn't supposed to be there.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
And while I was not supposed to be there, these
coffee house covers of classic black music popping up, Like again,
who ever asked Goling to cover chokkn No you didn't.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
You know what I mean, to cover earth Wind and Fire?
Speaker 2 (57:06):
No you didn't, Like none of nobody asked for this,
at least none of us did. And it just it
was like violently, just it like irked my spirit shoe.
I really can't even articulate. It just felt like spiritual
musical violence.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Like and so I was like, y'all got me fucked up, essentially.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Because if I had to listen to Taylor Swift to
attempt to sing Earth Wind and Fire I feel like
y'all should listen to a black ass cover of Paramore
or a black ass cover of you know, all the
music that I used to listen to as an angy teenager.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Chemical romance there. Yeah, definitely fall up boy like all
of that ship.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
And I grew up in a very in very white spaces,
you know, so I had to I had a lot
of identity.
Speaker 7 (58:01):
Uh, I haven't lot about prices, there were several, there
are multiple, but really coming to terms with like my
blackness and what that means, and like especially in all
white spaces, which I had been in most of my life,
and so you know, uh.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Looking back that I was like, no, I don't, I don't.
I don't see why I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
I want to love all the kids that you know,
were like me.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
That that did get called oreo both at school and
at church because when I was the only black girl
at my school, so and then I would go to
church and it was all black, all full of black folks,
and I'm like, oh my god, and they're like, why
are you like that? So yeah, I had to learn
how to navigate that. But with that being said, like
(58:55):
I'm black as fuck and I love black music. I
love black music and all forms, and I am yes.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
So my next product mixtape again putting me on the
spot with a date, putting me on the spot with
a day child, thank y'all. Yeah, I love it. I
am working on it right now. I would really love
to drop it like beginning of next year. It's like
(59:26):
next uh.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
Like in the in the winter, early winter, February. But
I am planning and hoping to release the single, yeah,
throughout the fall.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah. You have a couple of songs that are available
for streaming where from the people stream your music? They
are currently available on He's a SoundCloud rapper, y'all. I
don't wrap.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
I mean I rap a little bit, but like I
don't call myself that, right.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (59:54):
I tell people all the time, like, yeah, it's okay
to give those SoundCloud rappers a chance if it worked
out for me, just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
When you're a spectrap, I do that. Yeah. No, I'm
not a bigger rapper. I have bars from I mean
they're yeah, but yeah, right now I'm on song cloud again.
I have a lot of different songs and a lot
of different projects that I'm trying that I'm working to
get off the.
Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
Ground right now.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
So you know, just stay tuned with your girl, stay
patient with her, but also please be account I really
do appreciate that. And if you have resources but not
my way, I do that too.
Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
I'm learning, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Growing, and again, as I'm stepping into more and more alignment,
I'm also acquiring more of the resources that I need
for myself. So I'm really excited to get access to
you know, better recording equipment, to engineers, to yeah, to
to like having help.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
With rollouts and things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
So I say that to say, yeah, don't sleep on
your bitch because she's coming.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Okay, she's on her way and want to pull up.
You're not gonna hate you well, but in the meantime,
you can definitely spring my single, give me all your
last you know what I mean. And then you know,
when the fully mixed Master Virgion comes out, you're gonna
be like me up. Yeah, it's really fire to be
sub producing.
Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Like I imagine if somebody who knows what they're doing
right crazy, No, it's gonna be dope. It is dope already,
so it's just gonna be elevated exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
That's what I'm looking for. That's what I'm looking for
because again that virgo ctelium. Baby, if I'm gonna do something,
I want to be right. It has to be correct.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
And I am an artists about my ship and I
care a lot, so I just want to live on workout. Yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Where can the folks find you on the grizzing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
You can find me at crown X Underscore. I will
spell it out for you. That is c R O,
W and E and so Underscore that is there because extra. Yeah,
find on Instagram. I'll be on Twitter talking ship too,
so you can also find me on Twitter. I'm yelling
(01:02:12):
into the boys. I have a great time over there. Truly,
we love Twitter.
Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
We are never as individuals, ever giving up the burden
period two.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Quote or paraphrase one of my favorite peaks like the
world could start ending right now and I would just
sign over Twitter because I'm gonna get a joke before
we go.
Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
So yes, I mean any big world event black for
making it better by being Twitter, because the jokes endless,
doesn't matter who died, jokes stokes stokes everywhere. Okay, so
we've discussed our love for black Twitter in particular yea,
and we talked about where the post Kids signed you.
Last thing that I want to do is give a
(01:02:52):
shout out. So what I'm going to ask you do
I want to know what is your most your what
is your motto or message to the people. I would
literally say kind of what I said earlier. Life is short.
The simulation sucks.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Go ahead, fun fun, Life is short. This simulation sucks.
Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
So half fun, perfect, wrap up, perfect, There's no better
way to end. We were in the version of the Matrix.
It didn't matter which fill you to red blue babe,
it's all for.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
So we're here now.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Have fun, enjoy yourself really like it's on that so
make sure that you're living in for.
Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
You Yes, live your best life. Okay, thank you so
much for being on the show. I loved it. It
was so much fun. It was really fun.
Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
I think this is a good conversation to have, like
obviously as with few as a creative individual, but also
touching on how us spoke.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Being fun employee is impacting our partnership.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
So it's been fun. Love chatting with you. I'm sure
you're will be back on the pod, so you really
had a choice, And thank you all so much for listening,
and remember Twitter's one too.
Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
All right, y'all, we'll see you, you know.
Okay, at this point, I'm gonna have to say, Burgos
Grow again. It's a solid minute song.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And the way that I will listen to that six
minute song free time with no room, like won't feel
bad about it. I won't even think twice about it.
But also just the vocals, it's a journey. It is
a whole fucking journey. And then also you know Burgostilium here,
you know little three Mercury, Venus Mars what's up? So
(00:38):
so I can heavily relate to a lot of.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And yeah, again, it's just that song is a master piece.
It really is a masterpiece. And just I love it
so much.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It makes you want to dance, It makes you want
to sing, it makes you want to literally like that's somebody.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, I love that. I love that so much.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm really proud of you because I thought I had
her corner here, y'all, Like selecting one track from Renaissance,
I know that was like literally thinking your children. Yeah,
that's what I'm here for, all right, So, crowd, one
of the things I heard you mentioned in your intro
is that you are wearing so many different hats right now.
(01:20):
You got executive operations director, we got singers, songwriter, graphic designer.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
You know, I can't say that I would ever consider
myself as stellar employee.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I was never the girl.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That showed up and gave her all to her job
because I don't care.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
And you know, y'all not gonna still my joy.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Also, like, I also grew up witnessing my parents in
roles that were misaligned for them and being so unhappy,
so incredibly unhappy, I mean to the point where you're
just like just cashing out your uhappiness, thanking your unhappiness ran.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
On everybody else.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I just never wanted that for myself. I never
ever ever wanted that for myself. Yeah, so I just
with that being said, I didn't want to be that
persons and it was more important to me to be
able to recognize and grow out of it than to
keep trying.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
To force something that was working. M M.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That's real, that trying to force something that wasn't working.
That was definitely something that I experienced throughout my time. Now,
I personally was a corporate girl, I very much so.
The goal was the regional job at the corner office,
and I when I achieved that, I again was very unfulfilled.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
I thought to myself like, wow, these are the people
in the room. Now, this is it. This is what
I get when I get here.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And thinking like damn this, this really isn't what I
wanted after all. But going through that, I also was
thinking like, Okay, maybe it's just the setting because I
was in HR and we could do anything. So I'm like,
maybe it was just this one place. Maybe it was
that job.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Maybe it was them. No, no, no, it was me that
was misaligned. Man.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, when you finally all right, you're like, all right,
I know this isn't for me. I have known for
a long time that this isn't for me. This is
not what I want in any way, shape or form.
The direct deposit does not bring me enough joy to
counter off counter set, you know, the grief that I
feel about having to go to work in general.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Did you plan to quit?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
What was that process like of like, Okay, I trust
myself enough to walk away from my job.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So what ended up happening was when I took that job,
I started in the summertime, so I was doing.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Camp full time.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It wasn't a bad exhaustion per se, but it was
the type of exhaustion that like just robbed me up
any energy to foreign to myself at the end of
the days, like a full body, full body exhaustion. I mean,
like mind, body, spirit. Everything has been tired because I've
been firing from all cylinders, mind, body and soul. No CP,
no late night commercial. I love that you had to
(04:10):
get them in. But I knew that that would be
my last job. I knew that that was gonna be
my last job. I had agreed to, you know, try
a school year after camp and again really just knowing
(04:30):
that I, you know, would want the income.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
But also the people I worked with are pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Like I will say that that was one workplace where
I was very fortunate to get along with the damn
near everybody.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
That was there. Yeah, it's not a given.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
It's not it's not, and I don't think that's for granted, right,
Still really grateful for those people. It just I was
not supposed to be there in that in that capacity,
and it just.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Became more and more more and more and more apparent.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
With every day that came, and I dread going there
or dread you know, having to do things with the kids.
And again, I love the kids, like I still think,
I still think about my DA all the time, and
I hope they're doing well. I love them, I pray
for them.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
But like we still have their art on the refrigerators,
still have their art on the refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I have it in my office still, Like I look
at their photos and I remember their names. And at
the same time, I realized, like I am not being
of the best service to you in this capacity by
you seeing me shrink myself.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I can't serve you that way, you know what I mean,
Like I can.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I can only give you what what I have and
from a shrunken state, and that's not that's not enough.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So in order to best be able to like give
back I have, I have to stand, I have afraise
all of that.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I have to not be afraid of who I am
and what I know, so that whole I can lead
by example and you know, give some of them the
permission to.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Do those things in their lives. So that was that
was one thing that cook for me and the decision
to quit.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
And then also throughout that time I again and just
getting clear in that right because in about December of
twenty twenty one, Yeah, they asked if I wanted to
extend my contract because.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
They loved you know what I mean, it was the
love was mutual. I really loved them.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
They loved having me there, and they wanted to keep
and I, you know, on one hand, I was like,
I mean, like the money, whatever, it sounds good, but
like no, but no, I don't know again because I again,
(06:48):
I I'm coming to a point where I am valuing
so deeply myself, my own voice, my own power. And
I was done playing games with myself, you know what
I mean. I was then playing small with myself. So
I made that decision. I mean, they gave me a while.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, they gave me a long time about it. Really,
that's what I say. They bucked with me. They fucked
with me the long way. Yeah, they gave me a
long time.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And I went back and forth over it, and you know,
I talked to you about it, I talked for our
friends about it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But it just it wasn't it wasn't what I wanted.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And so in December of twenty twenty one, I wrote
down in a in a journal, I wrote down that
they were asking me to do this thing, and I
just mentioned that it felt so out of alignment. But
then I also mentioned that I wanted to start taking
dance classes again and to start building up those muscles.
(07:46):
And there was a studio that I have been directed
to from a friend on the other side me and
you know, just kind of pointed me that way. And
when I saw the name of the studio, it's a
Studio two and six. And again I'm from Cleveland, I
could recognize the Cleveland nigga shit.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Whoo so fast.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And so I was like, they from Cleveland, like they're
from like they from like from home, from home. Yes,
But I was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So I started taking some dance classes there and I
wrote down in that journal that you know, that network,
that that place, It just it felt like such a
It literally it felt for me right like it felt
like I was being led there for a reason. It
felt like I had something to do there and that
my people were probably there.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
And so I started taking those dance classes.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I would try to go like at least once a week,
but again, just really building that muscle and also just
getting back into my body because I think part of
being a creative. At that point, I was only really
singing and I had kind of divorced like my creative
side from my body, and I was having a hard
time understanding why it wasn't feeling as cohesive, but incorporating
(09:07):
my body back into my art really just had opened.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Up so many things from there.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So I was taking classes, baking classes, and then April
I see a flyer they posted on Instagram for an audition,
and I O, I've been asking for clients. I've been
asking for opportunities. I've been asking for you know, literally
since a flyers here you go for chances to jump,
to take the leap. And I was like, okay, well, okay,
(09:34):
I'm a register, yes, And so I registered went to
that audition on what was probably one of like the
my old worst weekends of my life that it was
a very different one.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
It was. It was really tough. It was a tumultuous time.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Almost didn't go to the point where I was feeling
so defeated that I was like, you know what, maybe this.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Isn't what was for me.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And I'm so grateful because my my lovely wife talked
me into going, you know, the one who really gave
me that push, gave me that encouragement, and so I went.
I went like literally crying and I said, I was
crying on the way there, sobbing in the car before
the interview or before the audition, looked at the clock,
(10:19):
was like, I have five minutes.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
White my face. They're one of those like just put
on a cheer smile.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And I went in and I felt like I was
rusty in like you know, those some of the techniques
that they were looking for.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And I was like, Okay, no expectations. I'm really going
as an.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Exercise and not letting the universe, not not not telling
the universe, no for me, for myself, because I had
talked to myself out so many and so I'm just okay,
I'm gonna give myself a chance to just give to
go see what happens. I'm not expecting anything. I'm expecting
to be like ooh girl, you know we got some classes.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Why don't you try so again.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I left feeling like I did horrible, but I went
and so I felt I felt good in that I
felt affirmed in.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
In that practice and that exercise.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
A few days later, I get a call saying, hey,
we really loved you. We you know, we want to
bring you on. Yes, there's some things we want to
brush you up on. Technically, we'd love to have you
start as an understudy, and I'm like, oh, because also
that was the second part of the test, right, Like
the first part is going, but the second part is
accepting it.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, it's saying yes, that is true, accepting what comes
of the test and when you say yes to yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Mm hmmmm hmmm.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So that was because I had the whole thing of like,
we do I do I say?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Like do I say yes? Like oh, like y'all for real,
like y'all for really, you see me? You see me? Oh, okay,
so I have to keep going.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah I went, but now I had to show up,
and so I decided to show up because again, I
didn't want to be I didn't want to be in
this space of limbo between knowing what I could be
doing and settling for what's in front of me. So
I decided, okay, well again, we're just gonna jump in,
(12:19):
We're gonna take that punch, and started going through rehearsals.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It was a lot of fun. It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
From the third or fourth rehearsal, I've been moved up
to one of the like, so it was just it
was a really cool experience. And then from there my
network just kind of grew and blossomed throughout the throughout the.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Studio, and then that literally and turned into a few months.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Getting a call from the owner of the studio saying, hey,
I love your energy, I love what you can do,
I know what you can do.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I want to work with you some.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
More, and being invited onto two and sixth Coal Agency,
so literally building it from the ground up. It's given
me the chance too to stand in everything right, to
stand in not just my art.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
My artistry, but also the standard like my leadership because I.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Know what I'm talking about very true and yeah, I
you know, I'm I'm capable of being a leader.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I am capable of bringing people up to speed and
like also making sure that we're we're moving forward.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
How Like that's how I ended up from there to
hear it's been a crazy year. Like honestly, if you
would have told me this time last year, I would
be listening, like, yeah, I might cutch you out, you
know what I mean, like playing face, But really it's crazy,
not it's not crazy, but the biggest thing that that
(13:46):
the biggest factor was just the change in perspective is
deciding that no, I can do this and I am
worthy of this. I am deserving of this. And so
if I tell myself, yes, who can tell me?
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Period? Well, I guess you an interview there was congratulations
like new found alignment. All right. So we have touched
on a lot already.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
One of the things that I want to make sure
that we get to is actually, like the process of
quitting your job?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
What was that process? Like did you go through the.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Formal two weeks notice and then they had some time
after and all of that.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
What was the process of quitting your job?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Like I had made the like internal decision, I ain't
going back there, so do what y'all want.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I won't be there. But then you know, you have
to tell them back.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
So I it's funny, I have I ended up, you know,
forming a.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Sisterhood some of the people that were there, and so
I told them.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Personally obviously they're not like the boss anything that I
wanted to have, you know, yeah, and make sure that
they were you know, yeah, tell your girls girls.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah. So I let them know, and everybody was really
supportive and I really appreciated that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
And then from that point, one of my duties in
the circle also worked closer to the director and so
she was like, girl, I.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Love you, so proud of you. Happy. She was like,
I got we here, I love it. When are you
gonna tell her? Yeah, because I'm gonna have to start
with you know, like start right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And I was like, you're right, I'm not trying to
make your life hard, right, Like I'm not trying to.
I want I want to send you right. So I
was like all right, boom. So I made a plan
that I would sit down and talk.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
With her in a school year ended in so early April,
I was like, okay, about the second, I'll you know,
I want to talk to her. I want to have a.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Conversation because I also wanted to let her know like
I was over that, but I didn't need to tell her,
and I wanted to just because some of those things
lead some feedback.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
There were also some instances.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Where I just felt like I could have had more
support in doing our job.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And I am not a woman show, not in that sense,
so not for this but anything else.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But so I did have a conversation with her in April,
and I just went into her office and was like, Hey,
I want to just follow up on, you know, the
earlier offer that you made I know you gave me
so much time to think about it. Thank you for that. However,
this is no longer in alignment.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah bicycle horn if they'll look good. But yeah, so
I just let her know. I you know, I appreciate
this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I appreciate knowing you, but this isn't for me, Like,
this isn't where I'm supposed to.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Be right now. It's not what I'm going to do time.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And I mentioned, you know, like I I'm not serving
the kids in the greatest capacity that I could see
by being here.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
So I'm gonna go ahead and finish out the school year.
I will be here for everybody's last day, but I'm
not going to be here for a place that Yeah.
So uh it went.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I mean, the conversation itself pretty well but very understanding.
Again it was I'm I was fortunate to have a
team and managers that were people. Yes, yes, there were people,
and they were receptive.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
To the fact that life as a human can be.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Hard and things changed, and so I I was again
wished I was said, wish me well. I did submit
a letter just like a week or two before my
last day, just to make.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Sure I got paid and that was that. The last
day of school came.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I gave out hugs a lot that the parents were
sad to see me go, but also super excited.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Yeah, which was really cool.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Again, like I you can't you can't really ask for
better than that, right, So it was really it was
really cool.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It was really sweet. But I I love Dan.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Yeah, and it sounds like those are really smooth. And
you know, there are times where folks will submitting resignation.
Then it gets a little cold and awkward at work,
you know, people are like, I mean any short timers.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Like yes, I will be leaving here.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Your voice like you're little jealous, But it sounds like
y'all don't really have that there, which is really really dope.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I had like the occasion of a coworkers like are
you sure you don't want to? Are you sure?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And again that I felt like that was more from
a place of just love and like, you know, not
wanting to, not wanting to part ways, but at the
same time still very very supportive of like the love.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Please let us know when we can come see you.
We'd love to come support you. I'm really proud of you.
I think so again, I can.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Have solid and so your coworkers were really supportive, and
we have mutual friends and obviously their team quit that ship.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Inside we joke about.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Like, yeah, quitting being addictive because everyone in our group
has quit at least one job in the last year
or so, which.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Is funny to say. But so, in thinking about the
support that you.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Had, were there any people in your life, family, friends,
or otherwise that were like.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Or that kind of gave you pause and so like, hey,
maybe you should preconsider.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
You wouldn't say that My parents were directly opposed, but
they are very traditional in the sense of well, what
are you gonna do for money now?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
M and yeah, yeah, And I mean it's understandable, right, Like,
there are many things, whether it's putting a job or
deciding to change career paths, whatever it may be, that
elicit that strong response from folks, especially like our parents'
generation and the different older the different elders that came
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before us that are really out of a place of
like love, you know. But it comes off as ears,
it comes off as projection, it comes off as like
don't do that, you know, And they're just not able
to say, like I'm worried about you, Yeah, I'm worried
that you're not gonna be able to take care of
yourself and your bills and these damn pats. So it's
one of those things where you know it's coming from
(20:23):
a place of love, but again, those projections can actually
be more damaging than they are.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You and I were in a really unique position at.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
The time that you quit your job because I had
also quit my job, not even it had been a
full year, maybe like eight months before you left, and
we were having these conversations about you leaving since, like
you mentioned December, and I know, at no point was
I like, no, you should keep that job. And as
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like a spouse as a partner, I was very aware
of how both of our jobs were impacting our relationship
to the point where we actually one of the reasons
we were seeing doctor Rogue was because I was so
unhappy and it was impacting our relationship. We were both
unhappy in our jobs and those were some of the
major sticking points for us, and they didn't have anything
(21:14):
to do with each other, but there's so much energy
and jobs and it just was draining energy from us.
But coming back to you leaving again, at no point
was I like, no, you should stay, So you should stay.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I definitely know that.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I was like not panicking, but asking the question of, like, well,
what are we going to do? You know, and so
I would love to hear like from your perspective, But
that was like, as you're making this decision to resign
from your job and we both.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Of us to be fun employed, terrifying. Oh my god,
I was so scary. It was so scary, And it
was like, this is one things that we actually had
talked about this in therapy because like at one point,
you know, we had the idea of, well, no, you're
you're pursuing your things right now, so I have to
you know, I have to stay here in this thing
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that's making me unhappy.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Somebody has to you know, stay pumped in.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So yeah, and just at one point she posted the
question of why don't you both.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Like what y'all both jump you know what? Right, and
like exercising that trust universal.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Especially if you are moving, especially if you are moving
in that actually you.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Know, meet meet you where you are. It was so
it was terrified.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It was so scary even in weighing that decision, right,
like that was part of what took so long in
making that deliberation of like, well, if I'm not doing
this thing that I hate, well then what you know
what I mean, like Lis is bringing in money like
like that that was the only thing was bringing in,
(22:53):
Like what it was taking out ended up being more
than the money that they brought it. Yeah, and so
the you know, at some point believing that both of
us are had been brought to this point for a reason.
And you know, again it was like our move out
here now or never. This is our face done time truly,
(23:15):
so let's jump. I mean it's not the first time
we've done it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, every every jump has just gotten a little bigger
and bigger. But the rewards are also I agree.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So yeah, I think that in like you're mentioning the
move out here. So for context, like I mention the
Crown and I met in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I had moved out there for work, you know, for
your girl.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I had relocated for work, and we met when she
was finishing a college college.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yes, yes, I know, everything everything for a reason, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But when we met and decided to move to California,
we didn't have anything, honey, like we had.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
We took whatever could fit in our two cars. At
the time. The rest went to your parents' house for storage.
We put some stuff in storage.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
We didn't keep the storage and so that, but we
took whatever fit in our cars. We paid our deposit
for our apartment. Our friend Carly joined us, which I'll
definitely be talking with her soon.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
She just put her job.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
But so we took what we had and we really
went on in this face that everything is going to
work out, and literally came to San Diego from Ohio,
drove out what like three days or something, barely had
the gas to make it, had to make the calls
a few times home like hey, you said another twenty
but we did. We did make it, and I think
within two weeks of being in California we both had jobs,
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you know, and we're trying to figure it out and
really able to get on our feet and still went
through things throughout the years of like again trial and
error in this alignment, which caused some of those processess
to be slower, But then we were able to find
a stride and really get into things. We were doing well,
and in the pandemic hit, which causes you were still working,
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but I had lost my job because of the pandemic.
So we're in this space of life. Okay, what are
we gonna do? But then fast forward to us both
leaving our jobs within this last year, and I was
talking to a friend, I think it was Carley, and
I was saying that, honestly, there would not have been
another time in life that we would have been able
(25:27):
to do something like this. Right, We're not nate planners
by nature, I would say of our coupledom for something, sure,
but not long term planner is.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Not for real, No, not at this stage. And so
we didn't have money sake though.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
It's not like we both put these jobs and had
like take pay sitting around somewhere like no no, which
in California, what is that anyway?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Well, would be anyway five dollars arret when I say
there's not another time that we could have done this.
Because of the pandemic that is going on, we were
able to access different resources, you know, whether it was
the mental assistance program or even slight and y'all seen
the prices of the grocery. We had these resources available,
(26:13):
and again the support of the universe, the opportunities that
have opened up since we really have decided to live.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
In our truth, which sounds so cheesy. I actually kind
of hate it, saying to actually just have fun and
enjoy life.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
While this is the time where the university say we
got you, we got you, you know, and things it leaps.
We've been tested, whether it's the offering of new jobs
or you know, we've got to knock at the door,
like for the money at from the landlord, and even
that has worked itself out. So that's something that I've
(26:49):
definitely considered as we made this transition together. But I
love what you said about like let's taking a leap
together and the leaves have gotten bigger, but there rewards
of God bigger.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's so true.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, So like all of the tests, I feel like,
are they literally just keep preparing us for bigger.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
We couldn't have known coming out here, however many years ago,
that it would have planted us in this spot, or.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
All of the transformations that we've both gone through, like
individually and as a couple, because we're we're we are
both different people.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And we are a different couple than we were when
we moved out here in m HM.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
So I mean, yeah, just every every chance gotten bigger
and bigger. And then like you said, the pandemic really really,
I mean, it rocks the fuck out of everybody, to
be honest, but also but it also like it just
broke down the gate. It's knock that wide open to
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to really just stepping into what is for you.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Life is so short, you know what I mean, And
this simulation SUCKSIO sucks, so you might as well have fun,
like you know what I mean, Just do what do
what is really fulfilling to you because you never know,
like you never know. And I realized throughout that time,
like I don't want to get to the end of
my life and have all of these.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
If I would have like you, like you would say
when we first you know, when we first met and
started dating, if I didn't have to have this real job,
if I didn't have to do whatever, if I didn't
have to live live out of alignment.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And I don't have to you know what I mean,
I just have to get myself too to step up. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's so real. Twenty twenty brought that realization, and even that.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Said, it's twenty twenty two, it still took us over
a year to really be like, okay, do the real
trust fall with the universe.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And with each other.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, you know, there is a certain amount of trust
that we had to have in one another's partners that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Like I got you, I got you, we got each other.
We're in this together.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And I think again, like that that reference jumping together,
it really did. It does at times feel like we
have jumped off a cliff together hand in hand, and we're.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Like sometimes it's like what like oh my god, sometimes
the betek and sometimes yeah it's fun and sometimes it's fun,
but either way, like we're in it together.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
So that's something I really appreciate.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
And again the growth throughout the last couple of years,
taking what the universe has given us to get up
to La, and that getting the job up here in LA,
which is why we relocated. Being also the push to
say like no, no, no, you can't do this anymore. It's
for me to step into alignment and then for you to.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Be right behind. It was just like 's kiss yeah, perfect.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, and thank you for taking that jump with me
too to LA because I'm like, I just I got
a ping of like go for it, you know what
I mean, Like like you said, the gates are open,
do it now.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Because moving to LA wasn't our plan, but it was
in our five planning moving to LA maybe five and
a little bit later.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
But something just said, like girl, m h by the
so short, like I said, You're not promised tomorrow, So
do what you.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Want to do today, today, today. Yeah, be where you
want to be, Go where you want to go. I
should so real, so real. Well, thank you for sharing.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
So coming back a little bit to the more general conversation,
even though for partners that are thinking about putting COVID
resonated with y'all, feel free to reach out to us
web online.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
We've buff left. And I know that I have gone
through several adjustments, uh, several tweaks, changes, whether it's to
schedule or diet, or to how I'm moving through the world,
what I'm pursuing and all that. What would you say
is been the biggest adjustment for you since dam ask
you a good question?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I mean, okay, so like I know, like you said,
you you really have gone through so many candibul daily
lifestyle things, just like you said, your dressed and with.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Your your food and just how you how you organize
your day.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
I don't I should think I'm going into uh yeah,
that would absolutely be edited out anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
That But yeah, it says a change in meat. But
oh okay, now here's what I would say. Here's what
I would say.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I wake up to say I put on exactly what
the fuck? Ooh that is it? Like that's it. And
I was talking with some friends about this a few
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
But like the mindset of I have my work clothes
and I have my fun clothes, right like, I have
things that I can wear that are considered appropriate to
having a job and maintaining respectability. And then I have
things that I actually like to wear. For those of
y'all full disclosure, I'm a Hucci monk.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And I love that. For me, you know, I live it.
For me, I stand tantos down in it. I do
not like wearing a lot of clothes.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Also learning more about myself through the lens of like neurodivergence,
understanding that like sensory wise, I don't like having a
lot of things on my body like I just I don't.
So I can wake up and put on a cute
little Pucci fit, or even if it's not a who fit,
Like I I wake up and put on a dress
with heels, and I'm going to the grocery store, you
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know what I mean, Like, but I have been dressing
for myself on a daily basis, and that mind shift
of like, no, bitch, I am living this life for
me every.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Day, for real, all day, every day, every day. It's
it's been so liberating. It's been it really has been
one of my favorite things.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah, to just be able to really fully show up
as myself every day everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I wear this to the office, you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And what and what and I walk in They're like,
ooh girl, you cute, like you know, so yeah, I'd
say that I would be the single biggest, the single
biggest change and shift that really has.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Just I love it. I love there for you. I
love it for you, especially like getting to witness it.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I think it's really cool to see the change in people,
whether they're putting their jobs, positioning, or trying something new,
but to see it up close because we obviously live together.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
It's been so cool.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
It's like a like a you know, and we haven't
like burned any of her work T shirts yet, but
I know, right, I know, it brings great joy to
not have to put it on every day or even
like I mean because at that point, you know, working
with kids, you can wear so much, right, so I
have to wear like a like a stiff ass cotton
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T shirt with some shorts that are at least me
like air quotes, not not for you know, not to
not excuse me them one because I don't like that's hard,
(34:51):
that's not it, but like comfort, personal comfort, Like I
wasn't going in my shorts, you know, I wasn't going
to work in my death shorts because that's too much.
So I have to find a pair of leggings and
a T shirt and some kind of shoes.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
My hair is just like.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
That would be neat meth No, I mean ship not
mean you got your dinner Bermuda as I'm absolutely talking about.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
You right now. Oh, I mean, well some of the
work is absolutely did so, yeah, you're talking about them.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But I was never gonna be regardless. I was just
gonna come up with a different pair of shorts, you know,
just something different to wear.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, like having having that freedom in my body and
in what I wear and how I show up, Yeah,
and not having to worry about because it's not like
I cared. Also, it's not like I really give a
about what people thought about it. But again it's more
so that like I I've worked with kids, you know
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what I mean, and and they see they see me
out and about in the neighborhood, they're gonna, you know
what I mean, I don't. I don't want to do that,
and I don't want to have to maintain the dissonance
of like this is who I show up as work
and this is who I show up as in.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
My life like in real life.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
A yeah, I think the dissonance of splitting yourself between
who you are at work and who you are irl
is something that's really interesting and not talking about, you know,
uh something. That's why I was so interested in that
show Severance, like Apple plus YEA or Apple TV, because it's.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Just like wow, the idea of fully not even knowing.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Who you are at work and then who you are
outside of work is the concept that again we don't
talk about enough because it's the same reason why like
when I would pull into the parking lot at work,
I would turn my music down, you know, like I'm
in the car turned up to wash my shoe by
a little way, because you know, when the lighter flicks
for no ceilings, that a classic is about to play, right,
(36:54):
but like, I'm turning that down because I'm pulling in
the parking on.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
The inverse who've always been anti corporate.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I pull to the spaces and I'm like, uh, louder louder, Yeah, Yeah,
we're all gonna be wrapping with some something Megan today,
We're all gonna be wrapping Magie.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
She just recently brought out her pumpkin Head pictures and
that's uh, in like consolidating who you are all into
one person now because you don't have to compartment lives,
you get to just just you.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yes, yeah, beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
So one of the things that job du bring can
We touched on this a little bit though, is right,
and somebody who is in the creative field, money can
be up and down and all around.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Sometimes the payments are slow and all of that.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
What has your experience been like thus far finance wise
since stepping into the full time period of.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie, still a work in progress,
you know, I'm still building that part. It's not where
I want it to be just yet.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
But the opportunities that I can already see lined up
ahead of me for the next few months, I am.
I'm confident that that is on its way.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
So I have a lot of faith in the universe
and spirit in that regard, And honestly, like even though
money has been tie, everything that I've needed has has
done Like every need had been met. I haven't had
to go without.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I haven't had to really settle, you know what I mean.
So again that that faith muscle has been exercised very
much so over this year.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
But I'm.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
But it's so strong now at this point where I'm
just like the money is coming, like it's already on
its way in the main, it's on its way to me. Again,
there are a lot of things lined up with the agency,
with Black Frim experiment that we do together.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Like it's the least of my concern.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Actually, yeah, because I know that that, Like I'm not.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
I wasn't sent to do this work for the money,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I wasn't That money was never the motivator. Yeah, it's
a resource, and so more of those resources will continually
make themselves available to me so long as I keep
putting myself in the right spaces in alignment.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
And and and and make myself able to receive them.
Stay open. To receive a left hand is to stay open, like.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Okay, because whatever spirits got for me, girl, I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
You know what I mean. I'm doing work and I'm
showing up.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
And and we talked last night. We're big on affirmations,
and so one of the things that we were affirming
and I was just saying out loud, is that like,
money is not the motivator, but we're blessed to have
gifts that allow us to make money. You know, that
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we can say like, hey, I'm manifesting this from this
and enjoying it and again not letting that be the
end all be all, because that often takes away from
what it is that we're trying to do, whether it
be this podcast or your work with the talent agency.
If we were all in it for money, it would
be incredibly stressful. Because we're still in the building phase,
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you know. And when I say still in the building phase,
we know we can both see like okay this, Yeah,
we're on the right path and it feels so good.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
And again, we have not gone without with things have
been tight.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
But I think even in that tightness that we will
look flexible and say look tight.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
But even in that tightness. I think it's helped us
to refine again what we want versus what we need,
and also just enhancing the gratitude, you know, being so
thankful for this space. You know, we're sitting in my
office right now. You have an office in addition to
our room.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Like it's just it's really beautiful to still be in
these spaces and feel worthy, feel as though we're aligned
and we're safe, and that because we are.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
In this alignment, all of those things are coming. Because
being in alignment doesn't mean looking forward only to the
direct deposit.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
No, we're looking forward to every day, like actually looking
forward to sending these emails, the setting up the messages
or even recording this. You know, I think something like
this podcast where right now I'm doing everything right. I'm
the videographer and the editor and the promoter and this
and that and this and the same with you as
an agency where you've got a title, but I mean,
(41:58):
there's really nothing you don't touch. Like you're cleaning the
you're cleaning the studio, you're talking to tell you're interviewing people,
you're helping with contract boo boo boo.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
That would be stressful.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
I think if it was like, oh my god, I
have to get this set and because if I don't
get this done by this time, I won't get it
posted by that time, and then I won't make money
because I'm out of my posting window. But no, no,
this money is such a pickle motivator.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
She doesn't like to stay around like that. It's a resource.
And we were talking. I don't remember when this was,
but you know.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Just it'stounding on, you know, the full fault. The love
of money is money gets me from pointing to point
b like, but loving it has got me nowhere at
any point. And then I observe the people who have
fallen for the love of money, and where is their happiness?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Like, you know what I mean, where is their joy at?
Because it's not okay, period period. I consider myself a
condiment and joy. I considered that one of my greatest gifts,
of my greatest skills. I don't play about that, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
That boundary is strong. So if it's going to take
away from my joy to eat.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
On it, if shake it, it is not worth it. Period.
It's just not worth it.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
That is such a big part of leaving, too, of
saying like, no, my happiness is worth more than the
job period, Like y'all could never pay me enough, and
I ever, ever, it was never going to be. And
this morning I was on my walk and meditation.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
It came to me when I'm like really focusing on
this week, this month, this year's life.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Is that if I commit to myself, I'll watch my
manifestations brow but if I enjoy the process, I watch
them exceed my expectations. So that's really where I'm at,
Like it's like I just want to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
I don't know what it's time, but yeah, what what
else is the point? Honestly? Really, what else is the point?
Speaker 3 (44:11):
What's the point of making the money if you can't
enjoy it? What's the point of working and being miserable
why you're doing it or not even miserable but just
kind of like disconnected from your truth self.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
While you're doing and it's not worth it. And I
don't want to get to the end of life and
rehire and be like, Okay, now I can live, Like
but maybe the society is crumbling. Why are you really, sir?
These rules are made up. They change every five minutes depending.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
On who you are, Like who cares literally and it's
funny because in my right there's obviously more to it.
But I think that's what the whole like, not wellness overall,
but like the that's the secret to life type of
thing is that tree is really based on, right, The
(45:01):
secret is to enjoy your life. Yeah, the secret is
to have fun and do what you want and believe
in yourself and be clear about what you want and
just enjoy the process.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
And then things will continue to work out for you.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Also, like the believing in yourself, like delusional levels of belief, yes, but.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
But like they are so powerful, you know what I.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Mean, your delusional beliefs because spirit the universe, you know,
isn't really their Their universe isn't ready to tell you
now the universe you telling yourself no over and over
and over again. So if you throw that delusional ass
leap out there, the universe is actually my catch it
and throw you something, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Like, you just have to be willing to believe, like
you said, that you're worthy and not even of those
delusions of granjoy you could you can turn into the
new reality if you so true. It's just all about
what you what you are willing to believe that you
are worth of what you're willing to well, you're willing
to believe that you are true. Yeah. True. I love that.
(46:10):
Love it, love it. And as we're talking about all
these great things that Spirit.
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Like, you know, they were playing kids and Spirit is
hitting back to what would you say has been your
biggest win or gift thus far in your journey?
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Is a full time creation. There's been a lot a
lot of people say that. I'm like, yeah, tell me
about man, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
At this point, I would just say the network that
I've been introduced into and the opportunities that have come
from that.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
This time last year, I had done zero you know
what I mean shows in LA I have no no
real network, And like right now I have three you know,
hop Pam shows on my resume.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
From the last few months. Like I really just had
two shows back back last week.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, and so again, it's just all because of this
network that I have gotten, you know, the chance to
be a part of. And the only reason I've I've
got a chance to be a part of that network
is because I stepped into Alignment. Like that's it, Like
I stepped into something that felt like it was right
for me and for the human design people because I
(47:29):
know that is also an even designed person.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
I'm a four to one generator, so you know that
four line my network.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
It's a big part of you know, how I moved
through the world in my design. But I have had
to learn the lesson this last year of like it
will only work for me if I am putting myself
in the line space, Like it doesn't matter who I meet,
because I'm gonna meet people wherever I go. I'll meet
people that I love.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
Wherever I go.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I love message Well, you know, at my my former
place of employment.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
As you know, y'all, y'all know what it is.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
And at the same time, you know they were brought
into my life for a reason. But other people, you know,
if it's not meant to be, it's not going to last.
And so the current current network, current relationships that I'm
building right now there, first of all, they're they're just
(48:23):
very aligned, they're very authentic. It's just clicking right away,
you know what I mean, being on the same page
right away, or having mutual ideas or reciprocal energy exchanges,
like things that are just kind of have been blowing
my mind as far as like, Wow, I didn't realize
I could even be the one to receive.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
All of this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, so all of those things that come so naturally on,
all I had to do was put myself in the
right spaces and everything else unfolded on its own.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
I really didn't see that much.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
That's the gift of connection that comes when you're in
alignment is something that I don't I don't know folks
are aware of the right because we just kind of think, oh, well,
I've met people all the time, but you look back
and speak on some of those connections. I mean, going
as far back to again recipes Spivey, that.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Connection is what brought you all the way here.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Spyby is someone that you had known from way back childhood,
from childhood, So that connection is our gift. And when
you're moving in alignment, those gifts just continue to come
and come and open the gift to talk to people,
connect with folks. I know that our society could be
really individualistic, and at times I'm a two four manifesting
(49:42):
generator in HD, so that makes me want to like
in the shell like hid and be to myself at times.
But when I do reach out to folks when we
do like go, we do connect. I mean it is
so it's like magical, yeah, you know, and it's really cute.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
He was like, oh, look at this person. I just
went there, so cool.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
And then we do something really cool together, it's like,
oh wow, I love it. So that gift to connection
is really beautiful and appreciate you sharing that. So in
the connection space, one of the ones that you have
talked about, you know, Executive Operations director, has been the
gifts that have come from joining the two and six
(50:25):
Talent Agents.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
So definitely want to take some time and have you.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Talked about what's going on with that, tell us more
about the agency.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
So again, this opportunity came about because the owner of
Studio two and SI he's also multi hyphene it right,
so we related on that on that level. Dancer entertainer sings, wraps,
plays a few instruments, and so we met.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
I was dancing for him on this.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
Tour and again that we just kind of clicked. We
had a really really authentic connection as far as being
able to trust each other and being able to just
kind of get on the same page and have a
metal understanding and mental vision.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
And uh so when the opportunity came, he called me
at the end of the summer and was essentially like, hey,
you know, I'm I'm starting this endeavor.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
I really I don't you know.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
It wasn't like he called an offered you know, this
is your role, but just like, hey, this.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Is what I'm thinking. I want to bring you on board.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
And I was like yeah, because it was just it
was such a full body yes. It was just like yes,
like yes, I and even like in in knowing that
I was supposed to be in entertainment, I can I
can tell you that I've never had like one job
that I.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Wanted to do. I want to do it all, right, I
want all I want to do so many things.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
And so it was an opportunity that was putting me
in the position to be able to do it all
from both sides, right, because not only do I work with.
Speaker 6 (52:05):
The agency I represented about you.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
So yeah, so I mean bringing me in.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
Initially we were just kind of building groundworks of like
so what do we even want this to look?
Speaker 1 (52:18):
Like?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
What is our goal? Like who not who are we serving?
But like you know, what are we bringing to the table,
how are we making ourselves. How are we standing out
from from this traditional agency? And you know, we established
that yes, while we are an agency, we do you know,
manage our talents careers. We also have so much more
(52:43):
to offer since owning the studios. He's like, I mean
we need production. We can do shows, we can do
passion projects, we can do content, we can do all
of these things. So it was again a really fun
exercise in naming all of the this and stepping into
all of the bigness that we're capable of. And it
(53:05):
just kind of transformed, like said, just throwing out ideas
into executing it and then you know, we need this that.
In the third I'm like, okay, great, I you know
have experienced doing websites, so I'm like, okay, great, I'll
start building this out. And things just kind of progressed
very naturally, very naturally into working really really closely with
(53:26):
him to get this up and running. And so it
just kind of evolved. It's like, hey, you know, girl,
you know everything. You know what I mean, you know
where these things are, You organize this, did that, you
did this.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
You want to run direction and run operations, And I'm like, yeah,
I'm kind.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
Of doing that anyway, and like not doing it as
a sense of like, you know, I'm the one that
has to why can't I, But like I just I was.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Enjoying what I was doing, you know what I mean.
It's just so passionate about.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
About the agency and where I know it's going right,
like where we.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Can both see it in the future.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
So I was like, yeah, I have no problem building
this foundation, no problem talking in and you know, pickering
and making sure that we have things set so that
way we can really step into this space.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (54:20):
So that's what that's been like Again, it's been so cool.
It's been so fun. I love my team. I love,
love love my team. I love everybody that's there that shows.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Up, our clients.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
Fuck, we represent the ross creatives here at an agency,
So you.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
Are including my lovely wife, you know, proper ship to talent.
Yeah talent. You know we're also available for a couple
of we really are. Please help us become this lesbian
couple we would love to be. Yes, No, really, we've been.
Speaker 3 (54:52):
Joking about this to lesbian couple things for years because
for the first like my gosh, six years of our relationship,
we would get these people will take pictures of us
for free, like professional photos, and every now and then
there's one set of photos of us that makes the
round on grounds on Instagram and we're like, we should
(55:14):
really do something with that.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Girl who wants to run another Instagram page?
Speaker 3 (55:19):
Fairly so, but yeah, if you're interested, we would love
to two things for you.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah quick syebar, Yeah, quick sidebar.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
But yes, I love that with the with the agency,
I personally think it's like such a beautiful thing to
watch and it's such a fit for you. It's so
cool to watch you step into that because I have
always known that you have like strong leadership capabilities. But
being in the corporate world, this wasn't it wasn't fit,
you know, it wasn't giving you the opportunity to shine away.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
So they were trying to drown you in paperwork, which
is you know. Yes, So we've talked about two and
six Talent Agency again. Check them out on Instagram. They
are in Van Nuys.
Speaker 3 (56:02):
If you're in California and you like take classes that
is two one six studio or Studio two and six,
So studio two one six classes two one six Talent Agency.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
If you have the challenge. So we talked about that.
What's going on with Crown projects coming up? Coming out?
Speaker 3 (56:21):
And yes, I'm putting you on the spot. I would
love to know when the Oreo mixtape is dropping.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
WHOA wow, like you said, so a little contact, a.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
Little insider trading, a little yeah, the Oriol mixtape is
a project that let me just drop in my spirit. Actually,
I will tell you exactly the project dot heir because
I was working again, working jobs that were just missingigned right.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
I wasn't supposed to be there.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
And while I was not supposed to be there, these
coffee house covers of classic black music popping up, Like again,
who ever asked Goling to cover chokkn No you didn't.
Speaker 1 (57:03):
You know what I mean, to cover earth Wind and Fire?
Speaker 2 (57:06):
No you didn't, Like none of nobody asked for this,
at least none of us did. And it just it
was like violently, just it like irked my spirit shoe.
I really can't even articulate. It just felt like spiritual
musical violence.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Like and so I was like, y'all got me fucked up, essentially.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Because if I had to listen to Taylor Swift to
attempt to sing Earth Wind and Fire I feel like
y'all should listen to a black ass cover of Paramore
or a black ass cover of you know, all the
music that I used to listen to as an angy teenager.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
Chemical romance there. Yeah, definitely fall up boy like all
of that ship.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
And I grew up in a very in very white spaces,
you know, so I had to I had a lot
of identity.
Speaker 7 (58:01):
Uh, I haven't lot about prices, there were several, there
are multiple, but really coming to terms with like my
blackness and what that means, and like especially in all
white spaces, which I had been in most of my life,
and so you know, uh.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Looking back that I was like, no, I don't, I don't.
I don't see why I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
I want to love all the kids that you know,
were like me.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
That that did get called oreo both at school and
at church because when I was the only black girl
at my school, so and then I would go to
church and it was all black, all full of black folks,
and I'm like, oh my god, and they're like, why
are you like that? So yeah, I had to learn
how to navigate that. But with that being said, like
(58:55):
I'm black as fuck and I love black music. I
love black music and all forms, and I am yes.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
So my next product mixtape again putting me on the
spot with a date, putting me on the spot with
a day child, thank y'all. Yeah, I love it. I
am working on it right now. I would really love
to drop it like beginning of next year. It's like
(59:26):
next uh.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
Like in the in the winter, early winter, February. But
I am planning and hoping to release the single, yeah,
throughout the fall.
Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah. You have a couple of songs that are available
for streaming where from the people stream your music? They
are currently available on He's a SoundCloud rapper, y'all. I
don't wrap.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
I mean I rap a little bit, but like I
don't call myself that, right.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (59:54):
I tell people all the time, like, yeah, it's okay
to give those SoundCloud rappers a chance if it worked
out for me, just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
When you're a spectrap, I do that. Yeah. No, I'm
not a bigger rapper. I have bars from I mean
they're yeah, but yeah, right now I'm on song cloud again.
I have a lot of different songs and a lot
of different projects that I'm trying that I'm working to
get off the.
Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
Ground right now.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
So you know, just stay tuned with your girl, stay
patient with her, but also please be account I really
do appreciate that. And if you have resources but not
my way, I do that too.
Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
I'm learning, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Growing, and again, as I'm stepping into more and more alignment,
I'm also acquiring more of the resources that I need
for myself. So I'm really excited to get access to
you know, better recording equipment, to engineers, to yeah, to
to like having help.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
With rollouts and things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
So I say that to say, yeah, don't sleep on
your bitch because she's coming.
Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Okay, she's on her way and want to pull up.
You're not gonna hate you well, but in the meantime,
you can definitely spring my single, give me all your
last you know what I mean. And then you know,
when the fully mixed Master Virgion comes out, you're gonna
be like me up. Yeah, it's really fire to be
sub producing.
Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Like I imagine if somebody who knows what they're doing
right crazy, No, it's gonna be dope. It is dope already,
so it's just gonna be elevated exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
That's what I'm looking for. That's what I'm looking for
because again that virgo ctelium. Baby, if I'm gonna do something,
I want to be right. It has to be correct.
Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
And I am an artists about my ship and I
care a lot, so I just want to live on workout. Yeah,
I love that.
Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Where can the folks find you on the grizzing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
You can find me at crown X Underscore. I will
spell it out for you. That is c R O,
W and E and so Underscore that is there because extra. Yeah,
find on Instagram. I'll be on Twitter talking ship too,
so you can also find me on Twitter. I'm yelling
(01:02:12):
into the boys. I have a great time over there. Truly,
we love Twitter.
Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
We are never as individuals, ever giving up the burden
period two.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Quote or paraphrase one of my favorite peaks like the
world could start ending right now and I would just
sign over Twitter because I'm gonna get a joke before
we go.
Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
So yes, I mean any big world event black for
making it better by being Twitter, because the jokes endless,
doesn't matter who died, jokes stokes stokes everywhere. Okay, so
we've discussed our love for black Twitter in particular yea,
and we talked about where the post Kids signed you.
Last thing that I want to do is give a
(01:02:52):
shout out. So what I'm going to ask you do
I want to know what is your most your what
is your motto or message to the people. I would
literally say kind of what I said earlier. Life is short.
The simulation sucks.
Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Go ahead, fun fun, Life is short. This simulation sucks.
Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
So half fun, perfect, wrap up, perfect, There's no better
way to end. We were in the version of the Matrix.
It didn't matter which fill you to red blue babe,
it's all for.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
So we're here now.
Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Have fun, enjoy yourself really like it's on that so
make sure that you're living in for.
Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
You Yes, live your best life. Okay, thank you so
much for being on the show. I loved it. It
was so much fun. It was really fun.
Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
I think this is a good conversation to have, like
obviously as with few as a creative individual, but also
touching on how us spoke.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Being fun employee is impacting our partnership.
Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
So it's been fun. Love chatting with you. I'm sure
you're will be back on the pod, so you really
had a choice, And thank you all so much for listening,
and remember Twitter's one too.
Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
All right, y'all, we'll see you, you know.
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