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October 9, 2025 104 mins

"Bitcoin is not a f***ing iPhone. It's not going to just follow the same adoption curve that every other technology before it. Bitcoin is a techno-socioeconomic phenomenon… the downside of me being wrong about an iPhone is a thousand dollars. The downside of me being wrong about Bitcoin is my entire wealth."

In this conversation, Walker and Aleks Svetski discuss the profound changes in their lives, particularly with Svetski becoming a father. They explore the shifting political landscape, the role of the state, and the nature of violence in society. The discussion then transitions to the current state of Nostr, a decentralized social protocol, and the challenges it faces in gaining traction compared to other platforms. They conclude by examining the differences between social media and social networks, emphasizing the need for a compelling reason for users to migrate to new platforms. In this conversation, Svetski discusses the evolution of his project, Satlantis, focusing on its transformation into a Bitcoin-native events app. He emphasizes the importance of user engagement, the integration of social graphs for enhanced discoverability, and the need for innovative tools that leverage the Nostr protocol. The discussion also covers monetization strategies, targeting Bitcoin communities, and the potential for crowdfunding to support future developments.

SVETSKI’S LINKS:

Nostr: https://primal.net/svetski

Satlantis: https://www.satlantis.io/

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