The Creative Canvas: A Season Finale of Art Exploration

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We're passionate about exploring the captivating world of art and creativity, from the power of color in photographs to the limitless potential of animation. In our season finale, we discuss the work of renowned photographer Peter McKinnon, the awe-inspiring capabilities of the Unreal Engine, and our admiration for the artistry found in collectibles like Funko Pops and Legos. We even delve into the craftsmanship of barbers, tattoo artists, and stand-up comedians!

As we celebrate the incredible ways art touches our lives, we invite you to listen in and share in our enthusiasm for the diverse forms of artistic expression. We also take a moment to reflect on the art of love and relationships, the joy and peace it can bring, and how it's all subjective. Thank you once again for supporting our fourth season, and here's to more creative conversations in the future!

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Speaker 1 (00:13):
this is it season for now.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the beat doors for we are the world's
brand new kevin and silver, andwe are now on season for episode
12.
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First time I was all flew by, but I guess because
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So, that being said, we aregoing to tackle the issue of art
.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Spelled a RT.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
A RT, not F A RT, which he's doing.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
And that's the art of knowing how to spell So all
right.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
So, basically, how?
how did this come across?
What do you three know aboutart?
Will you be very surprised whatwe know about art?
You're talking to people whotravel the world or the country
who have been to prestigiousmuseums all around the world.
for I mean for me, for Silver,Kevin's been to Ireland.
I'm sure he went to a museum ortwo in Ireland.

(06:45):
He did.
I've, I've been to places likethe Prada.
I've been to, which is the, theNational Museum in Madrid.
I've been to the Louvre inParis.
I've been to the Uffizi inFlorence.
I've been to the Sistine Chapelin Rome.

(07:06):
I've been to Vincent Van Gogh'shouse.
I've been to Venice.
I've been to.
I've been to a couple.
I've been to the NationalGallery in London.
I've been to a couple othermarquee art galleries.
Now, what are we talking aboutart gallery, and not to mention
our very own here, which is aworld renowned museum, the

(07:29):
Philadelphia Museum of Art, oneof the best museums in the world
, Always worth a visit.
Guess what?
To go into the Philadelphia ArtMuseum on Sundays?
it's pay what you want.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yes, yes, oh, that's neat, that's on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Sunday, of course I would.
I would be busy that day.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
So pay what you want to go in, but it's.
It's not even that expensive toget in on a regular day.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
No, i've been there a few times.
I really do enjoy that place.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yes, I've never been inside yet.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You have to we have to get you in there.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, It's just you know you're not even allowed to
bring Cameron, So that's theshitty part.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
I knew that, but I understand it, yes, but it's a I
don't know.
I think it's a very commonexperience.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Oh yeah, i would love to go again.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I've never been inside, so we should, we should
go, because remember how youguys said that we were going to
take that walk along the schoolgoal and we never did.
Yeah, we should still do thatWell then maybe we take a day
where she's not or maybe us andthe God kids go to the art
museum and take a walk.
You know what I mean.
I know landed would be likewhoa for a little bit,

(08:34):
especially in the arms and armorsection.
I think you would like that alot.
But um, so art, art, what is itSo?
artists, subjective as veryvery subjective.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Just like opinions arts boring as shit in
elementary school men.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
But now my mother was an art teacher.
My father was an art professor.
My father was taught oilpainting at the South University
.
My mother was a high school artteacher.
She won teacher of the year atthe Philadelphia School District
and Limbock award for beingsuch an excellent teacher.
Art art is a way to expressyourself.

(09:09):
Now, there are many differentforms of art which I think we're
going to get into.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
We're going to get into what it's practically
limitless.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Right And it's going to no, there's.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
There's one thing.
I don't know if we should do itnow or later on, but I know
recently there's been a rise inwhat they call AI art.
Yes, And a lot of people aregetting angry about it, And
whether that should still beconsidered art or if there's
just some Illustration someillustrations All right, i was
about to say it is because it'snot.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
again, art is subjective.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
So, yes, i think that is technically created by
people per se, right.
But well, i mean, come on,there's still someone
programming behind, right?
I?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
think the most recent .
I think Drake got extremelyinsulted and very angry that
someone typed in the AI make aDrake song and it came out
sounding exactly like him,exactly one of the beats he
would use, exactly sounding likethe lyrics he would use.
And it was Drake AI And itsounded like Drake just dropped

(10:05):
the banger And Drake was likethat is not my song, that was
made by AI.
He's really pissed off aboutthat.
Another person who warnedagainst AI was Joe Rogan,
because someone typed in AI JoeRogan podcast and the AI created
a Joe Rogan podcast.
Oh shit.
So the dangers of AI.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
That could be a whole other Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
That's a whole other technology.
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
It's not It's not That's another, that's that's
bonkers are there.
That's a whole other episode,but right now we're talking
about the actual Or so.
I was introduced to art by myparents and I was introduced to
the classic forms of art.
We're talking about painterslike Michelangelo, talking about
painters like I'm going to namethe Ninja Turtles, but these
were real Renaissance paintersMichelangelo, Raphael, Leonardo,

(10:54):
Donatello.
Michelangelo famous forpainting the Sistine Chapel.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Not the 16th Chapel, sistine Chapel.
You know how he will say 16th,no, the 16th Chapel.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Also, also in Floridians.
Floridians, I'm going to giveyou your props, but I'm also
going to take it away from you.
So the statue of David, a veryiconic statue, very made by
Michelangelo in Renaissancetimes, absolutely gorgeous.
Carving anything from marble,anything that life like La

(11:27):
Piedta, all that other stuff,when you can make marble look
like actual gowns flowing It's,it's exquisite.
Well, anyway, in Florida now,the statue of David is
considered pornography.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
There is a penis, penis For good penis.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
So in Florida now the statue of David.
So so Florida is now kind ofit's a rock hard penis.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
We got a block.
It's actually like, is it not?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Is it a little infuriating that Florida doesn't
know this big pornography?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
This because it's he's not like some.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
I'm saying, it's like my point is like it's not rock
hard, it's just if it was likeerect.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I said rock hard because marble Right, right,
right, right, my thing is whenwe look at when we look at, when
we look at David, whatMichelangelo is trying to make
you look at, it's just thebeauty of the human body.
The Renaissance was all aboutthe beauty of the human body.
That's what it was.
It wasn't pornography.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Pornography is fucking art.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Ok, it's subjective, it's true It's a form of, but I
don't think it's art form of art.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I mean it is.
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Technically it is All right, But I don't think that
Renaissance paintings No, but mypoint my point is that?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
no, they are.
you're right.
That was not the kind of artthey were fucking going for.
And now pornography has becomean art because of You know the
bad side of it.
No, no, no, I don't.
I don't consider amateur shit.
You take it on your fuckingphone slamming your girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
So I'm not talking about.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
I'm not talking about that, i'm talking about the
actual art of like, the actinginvolved and everything that
hell, even the the soft core.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
All that, yeah, what's that.
What's that The acting is?
they got a great sense a littlebit.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
But even the whole, there is an art to it.
It's just.
That is not what I'm talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
No, i understand that .
No to me that is not fuckingpornography.
So in Florida, what they'reseeing is is that the
Renaissance period, the statueof David, that is pornography
And they're not going to teachabout it.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Well, the weird thing is, if you take it even further
back with the Greeks.
the Greeks did a whole bunch oflike nude paints, but it was
about the human form and thehuman body, as was the
Renaissance Right.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Right, so basically so, florida, i I shit on you for
that, but I will give you propsfor this.
Ok, and I said I would say itin the earlier episode, but I'm
going to give you props now.
Scrolling through Instagram,going through the stories, found
somebody who posted thatFlorida has passed a law into

(14:03):
legislation that sex offendersin Florida or are can be, are
now subject and can be subjectto the death penalty, which I'm
completely OK with that.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's about time they do something right like that And
You have to be 100 percentguilty.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, i mean, if there are ifs, if there are ends
, if there are buts, then no, iwouldn't push for it.
But if it's 100 percent and Imean 100 percent down to the DNA
, then yeah, i, i and I thinkthere's something that should be
adopted throughout the entireUnited States, so Florida.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
I should be rude.
I'm brutal when it comes tofucking.
I for an I man.
I know No problem.
I'm brutal, i believe in it.
100 percent.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
So, florida, i give you props, but I also shit on
you for thinking that the statueof David is pornography.
So my, anyway, my dad taught mymom and my dad they taught me
about Rembrandt and all theseother guys.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
One more thing about Florida.
You hear about the whole battlewith Disney and then people
making fun of DeSantis sayinglike yo, you just lost against
Mickey Mouse bro.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, i mean Disney, and Disney has something, an
infinite amount of somethingthat the Santas does not, and
that's called money.
So I'm not siding with any sideon that, i'm just stating the
obvious, which is Disney hasbillions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, what Like a empire.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
So let's, let's talk about Jesus, let's not you.
I'm seeing what you say.
Let's talk about art and let'slet me ask you guys What is your
favorite form of art And who isyour inspiration when you see
that form of art.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I mean I have several of them And I mean my, my, my
number one form of art is music,all day, all day, and there's
no secret here that music keepson popping up on our recordings,
that we keep talking aboutmusic.
But I mean, yeah, obviouslythat's my number one inspiration
is Ben Burnley of BreakingBenjamin.
Besides that, it's it'sphotography, and no secret that

(16:13):
the Peter McCain and it's mynumber one.
But I mean there are some, manyother photographers out there.
And as far as the editingconcept of shit and just knowing
how to make product placement,just look, fucking crispy man,
my man, kirk Lepperton, who isPeter's editor, he is
unbelievable And he's a very,very humble guy like me.

(16:35):
I don't think he even realizes,like, how good he really is.
He just, he just doesn't, hedoesn't, he doesn't, you know,
act like a shit, don't stink oranything like that.
He's, he's, he's something else, and some of the ideas he comes
up with for Peter's work isreally neat to like.
He knows Just how to makeeverything flow together, like
with the art of editing hisPeter's YouTube videos right

(17:00):
down, right down to just havingthe perfect, you know, back
display for, you know, productplacement for something that
Peter's now selling, like youknow.
For example, he set up hiswhole, you know, basically set
for when Peter just dropped acollaboration with clocks and
colors for a new ring And thekeys Keys aren't too bad,

(17:21):
they're cool, they're cool, yeah, but I still not buying a 70
key.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
There, i'm just saying there's, you know, i
think there's 70, 70, even,something like that.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I'm still not buying it.
Oh, no, no.
no, i mean not everything thatPete has dropped, you know you
have to buy.
I mean some people.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Oh yeah, dude, there's this one guy and I got
to give him credit.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I mean he like lives for the pirate drops.
Yeah, every single time I see apirate drop, it's in the
discord.
He's like, oh, i bought it.
I'm like God damn this guy's ontop of that's a fan.
Yeah, that's a diehard big timeRight.
So um, I say I don't live forhis shit.
I love him, I want to supporthim, I like his stuff.
Let's just say you know, i'msorry you don't live for his

(18:00):
merch.
No, i don't, But you do livefor his photos.
I will live for his work.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
It was great about Pete and not that if he ever
hears this episode, thanks, imean, god the one.
One of the good things aboutPeter McKinnon guys is that he's
really is that in his YouTubevideos he he will share his
secrets with you.
Yeah, he doesn't make it like,oh, you have to join the Peter
McKinnon School of Photographyor something.

(18:26):
No, like he'll sit there andtake you through how he's step
by step, stakingly at its photo.
Listen, photography isbeautiful.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
You always capture an image, but it's my favorite
visual form of art Right.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I think.
I think what it is Photographyis is that, and this is how the
art subject came up.
We were talking and I had Kevdoes excellent for me anyway, he
does excellent productplacement shots.
He's got so much better overthe years And every now and then
I like to give him a run forhis money.
I got him one time in bothgardens and I had a little fire

(19:01):
under his ass And and so I, youknow, i was like you know, you,
you, you had the can of RitasAnd I never did my can of Ritas,
but I said here's my liquiddeath, and try, you know, liquid
death.
And I had the right.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
But it was good, dude , you had it.
So is that?
even the way that that fuckingthe clock was in the background
is just subtly blurred outbecause of the portrait mode.
It was dude, it was set great.
The only thing I'm ever lookingfor in those photos, and I told
you it's just to make it moody,and I can show you exactly how
to do that.
It's not hard, but that's justme.

(19:36):
It doesn't mean it's subjectiveto you, right, it's just that I
feel like it brings out more ofthe setting.
I don't know, it just makes itmore.
And yes, i'm absolutely biasedto Kirk's work and you know
Peter's work and stuff like that.
But like there's this reallymoody, they actually go with
like dark backgrounds and chill.
Yeah, i go naturally by theactual scale of what I'm editing

(20:00):
with Like I'll make the colorsdarker, i'll bring out.
But, for example, i want apicture I posted today of the
bee on the flower.
I want to bring out thosecolors because it's different,
because it's springtime.
I'm not trying to be like, ohman, it's like nighttime.
There's a bee on the flower.
Now I want you to see like thisis a broad daylight, you know,

(20:22):
like a beautiful flower thatbees suck in the honey out of.
It's cool, i mean, that's theshit I like.
I want people to see what I'mseeing, sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Being creative.
in that also I mean art doesn'tcome without creativity.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
So, like I won't, i do not approve of all forms of
art, but I'm not going to be asdisrespectful to somebody who
claims that their art that youknow that being something.
So I remember I went toPhiladelphia Museum of Art and
they had like a modernexhibition And literally it was

(20:57):
like a urinal on the wall And,interesting, it was like just a
urinal, like nothing on it.
I couldn't understand what.
You know, like I, when I see aurinal, i use it to pee.
Yeah, i don't see the art inthat.
But to somebody who, in orderto get that installed in the

(21:19):
Philadelphia Art Museum, youhave to be doing something.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I mean, yeah, there's , there's something obviously
important about it.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I mean, then there's then there's other paintings
that everybody says, oh, a fiveyear old could do but sell for
millions of dollars.
So you know, that's where youget the art Subjective man,
that's where you get it.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Some people have thought, like you know, some of
the pictures I've taken were andI've noticed this just by
simply likes on Instagram thatwere they thought it was great.
And then there's ones that Iput a lot of work into.
I'm like, oh man, dude, like Ireally hope people are going to
like this one.
I get like one like I'm likeman, I really put a lot of work

(21:58):
in this one I took like 50,000shots.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I think that's the pain of being an artist And I'm
not saying I'm not saying that.
We live our lives sitting herearound this table being artists
and having the artist struggle.
So I don't want anybody to getoffended by who are true artists
, who live that life everysingle day.
Right, but that is veryrelatable And that's even
relatable in a professionalworld, when you put your heart

(22:20):
and soul into what you're doing,right, and you think, god man,
you know, i fucking knocked itout of the park this month.
Right, i've knocked it out ofthe park these past couple of
weeks And it that's why most ofour, that's why most jobs are
they say thankless because, you,you could be on time every day.
You could not.
you, you, you.
you have the whole operatingroom memorized.

(22:44):
You could have the, theinstrument, in the hand of the
doctor, before the doctor evensays it.
like you could be that on point, and then he's done.
He doesn't say anything to you,mm, hmm, and I do.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I see it happen to the scrub tech all the time And
it's like fuck.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Like you have that feeling like fuck Because when
you're feeling yourself thatthat is So, i'm sure you can
agree.
I'm sure there have been timesof work where, even if you're in
a bank, it doesn't matter ifyou're white collar.
I bet there's been some monthsor some weeks that you felt you
were in a fucking role.
You were knocking everythingout of the park, yeah, and

(23:23):
nobody said anything.
Yeah, but when you do somethingthat's like tiny, minuscule and
it doesn't even like reallymatter, yeah, they'll make a
deal out of it Like oh my.
God man, so you, you already didthe schedule.
Fuck man, you are a bet, you'relike are you for real?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Look at the way you open that candy wrapper.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
You know, you open the front door at nine.
Congratulations.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
You know what, but you know I, and so I do wish you
know workplaces and stuff likethat, And I think we put a lot
of work into this right And sowe want to.
Podcasting is an art form.
I don't care what you say It is.
Podcasting is an art formbecause it has to work.
Oh yeah, if it doesn't work, ifyou have co-hosts, that it
doesn't work with Everyone'sgoing to know that it doesn't,

(24:12):
because it's entertainment, andentertainment is a form of art,
so it's so met.
But so you were talking aboutPeter, we're talking about Ben,
yeah, so we're.
What about you?
I feel you're going to take itinto the game around.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
It kind of is there, so I can take it a step further.
Who's?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
your who's your artist, Who's your guy?
Like comes out, You're like yo.
I fucking love this shit.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
It's not so much like a specific artist but like more
like the behind the scenes Therecently I've really been
getting into, like the peoplewho make the game engines for
the games.
So like the software Yeah.
It's like a very popular onethat almost everyone knows, and
it came out.
It is not an unreal engine.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I don't think about it, so you'll be solved.
Unreal five is Yes Mine.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Wait, who was?
it again Unreal, Unreal whichis actually owned by Epic Games.
Of course, i've never heard ofthem.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Actually right now.
So if Silver ever does a stream, he'll he should hit you up so
you could see.
right now Fortnite Creative isrunning like, I think, the beta
testing of Unreal five.
They have Unreal five in theircreative communities.
If you see the environments.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yes, i believe it, It is so mind blowing.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
So the crazy thing is , i want to say I think Unreal
Engine has the biggest marketshare of game or developers.
They use Unreal Engine fortheir game.
So a lot of games they run onthe Unreal Engine.
So the Unreal Engine isliterally like the basis for a
majority of games.
So majority of games you seeactually runs on that engine.

(25:56):
But the cool thing about theUnreal Engine, they've actually
used it in other forms ofentertainment as well and one of
the biggest shows out right nowactually uses it a lot and it
was actually the Mandalorian.
So a lot of those backgroundsand different scenes and stuff
that actually was done in theUnreal So they're like doing
like green screen and stuff.
But a lot of the backgroundstuff that was all done in

(26:16):
Unreal Engine.
So it's like, but it looks itlooks a lot better than the old
way It used to be.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
So what makes you pick them out of all the other
engineers, like you know?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
the rate.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well, if you saw what makes you like them more than
the rest they've been around fora while.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
It's very user friendly.
I guess it's very user friendly.
I'm not See.
I'm not too familiar with thecreating part.
I'm more familiar with theexperience of playing games or
watching stuff on Unreal Andthen seeing where that
technology is going.
So another cool thing theyreleased is because they have,

(26:56):
like, different assets and stuff.
Is they released their metahumans?
They have different asses.
You said that They said asses.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
I hope so.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Everyone has different asses.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I would hope they would So.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I should hope so.
Right, so not only are they.
If you look at the latest onewith the environments that you
can create and the worlds thatyou can create with it, it's,
it's, it's crazy.
And then now they have thisthing where, like, i saw this
thing where like, let's say,there's like a river stream or
whatever, but you want to putlike a rock stash or something
down, so setting like, puttingit down and adjusting everything

(27:30):
yourself, the AI and theprogram is smart enough, so when
you place something down, theenvironment around it adapts to
it, so it melds it right in, soit makes it easier for artists
to create stuff without doingall the final, final, you know,
all the final details and littlethings.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
And actually it melds .

Speaker 3 (27:51):
So basically you can add different assets And that's
you know.
And it helps artists to spendmore time on you know, send
doing that They should have anart for burping.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
And there is an art for burping.
I think there's like burpingcompetition Seriously, but I
need to do it.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I do want to take it also kind of into another type
of thing which is done in ingames, but also done and say
what do you think this is abuffet You're going to take the
whole time?
or just get in movies as well?
And in a more general sense, isanimation Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
So we can say, like you know, animation as like the
traditional cartoons or all ofthe CGI that we have now.
So anything in video games,anything from what do you call
it from?
like the pixel Hell, evencartoons.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Like you know even drawings, like even, even, even
drawing cartoons.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
I'm saying like, even like, say, like, say you know
that's technically animation too.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, i mean when you , when you talk about anime,
right, If you're talking aboutanime, talking about you know.
Dragon Ball, if you're talkingabout.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, it sucks to be cut off doesn't it Yeah?
Yeah, i know, because ithappens a lot to me.
Oh, does it?
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Appliate.
But yeah, no, you're talkingwhen you say anime.
you know, just I kid, i kid.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
So the funny thing about anime, i know, a few years
ago I had no interest in itwhatsoever, yeah, but now it's
just like like Watch Attack onTitan and tell me you don't have
any interest on it.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
But I'm saying like I've seen a couple episodes
pretty bad, But I'm saying likeI'm getting more into it now And
it's just like and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
I appreciate that art form Demon Slayer, huh, demon
Slayer.
And it's just like Amazing Andthe cool thing, and then like
but even with my gaming, i'mplaying a lot.
I'm playing more and more Animestyle.
Anime style, yes, and I enjoyit, like, i really enjoy that
art form.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I like it a lot, you know but I think that's one of
the things about art.
Yeah, art brings you joy.
I think art brings human's joyright.
So creating something is, youknow, it comes from your soul,
it comes from your heart And,like we said, we want everybody
to appreciate what we do.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh, of course, and it's funny because people Well
at the end of the day, you gotto make sure that whatever art
you are doing is for you.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
At first For you first I think the most
accessible art is yours.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
That's the thing.
Like if we were doing thispodcast for everybody else, I
feel like we wouldn't be nearlyas happy.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Well, no, i mean this is sitting around the table
talking.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Right, And I was just literally it's kind of funny
that we were talking about thisbecause, like we were, we were
sitting here talking.
I'm just thinking like this isthe easiest popularity note I've
ever done.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
This is really sitting here talking.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, and we have seventeen thousand four hundred
fucking downloads.
Yeah, it's the easiest thing toget popularity.
Good, i've never got.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I love it Ever, I mean so.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Actually I have another thing that almost forgot
about, that I kind of like forart, yeah.
Because one of my main buddiesthat I play online with a light
wing dragon he is actually doesit himself is a cosplay, Yeah,
Oh yeah, the art of cosplay,that's definitely Absolutely.
I like.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I don't do it myself, but I enjoy watching those who
do, and that falls under likecostume shit, because, like I'll
tell you right now, some of thepeople that do the costume,
they're all unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
It's just like the amount of work and time they put
into these characters.
Dedication man.
And one thing I like aboutcosplay it can go across all
forms of media.
So like you can be like a TVcharacter, movie character,
making character something fromlike a mango or or anime.
It can be from anything.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
If, if I could, if I had the money to pay a well
known cosplayer to get me aHalloween costume for you, bet
you I would, Because I meanagain.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I enjoy just seeing the some idea Halloween in
itself.
I know it's not a cosplay thing, but like it kind of is in a
way, because it's you, you kindof be something.
Do you're like?
you're like kind of admiring?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Do you put more?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
So Halloween's like that day or year where
everyone's a cosplayer.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Or a whore.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Hey, if they want to be a bunny, they can be a bunny.
Ok, i didn't know, bunnies werefishnets, just saying, i'm just
saying I'm just saying I didn'tknow.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
All I got to say is you got the years, you're a
bunny to me, ok, ok, all right,hey, listen, listen.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
So all right.
So for me, i guess inspirationswhen it comes to art.
you know, i always hand it, ialways give my parents a firm
thank you because both of themwere always painting, both of
them were always drawing.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Well, you actually were adopted at.
One of the biggest art formplaces in the whole country is
this Longwood Gardens.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, most so.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, i don't give a shit when anyone says I can't
get into flowers, i can't getinto plants and fungus and all
that stuff.
But I'll tell you right nowit's beautiful to look at.
I mean I just took a picture ofthe flower earlier.
I don't even know what the fuckit is in my front yard, so the
one thing I like about it isabsolutely artful.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, i do appreciate the flowers and all that stuff.
I like that stuff.
But the one thing I also likeis the fountains and the
different stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
See, that is the shit I do like that, and then how
the water?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
streams and how they change them and stuff.
It's really cool stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
So for me, what I really enjoy also comes to art
is architecture itself.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Oh my God, yeah, Oh, don't it, Oh.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I had to hit it because now I love it.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
And this is why he had a good nerve.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
This is this is why, for me, i want us to get to
those rooftop bars, because weget to those rooftop bars And
you get to see the architecture.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
So I'm bringing it.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, another form of art which I think it because
there are, and you'll love thisone, it's architecture is roller
coasters.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's definitely that you have to be
Engineering, engineering behindthat, yeah, 100 percent.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
When I'm talking about architecture, so here's,
here's how I feel, right, likeyou have buildings that are
absolutely astonishing, gorgeous, and we can go all across the
world.
Ok, so I was in Paris.
Paris is beautiful, must benice.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Great.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Our dude.
I've been to Florence, in Italy, a place you've never been.
Must be, nice, amazing.
I've been to Rome Must be, i'vebeen there, i've been there.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
That's the one that pisses me off.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
I've been to.
Madrid Must be nice, amazing,right, i've been to, i've been
around, right.
Must be nice, it is.
First of all, it says the guyIf you remember whose family
would go on a trip around theUnited States every fucking
summer, remember that guy thatguy Right there Must be nice.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, fuck, you Must be nice.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Must be nice.
I don't got time for that Idon't got time for that.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
What I'm saying is right must be nice for not
having time for that.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
OK, he's on fire.
You make him snort the beerlike what is what I'm on those?
I think no, ok, so nice when wetalk about small fire, so, like
when we talk about, you know,architecture.
I really feel Philadelphia isfull of beautiful architecture,
right, and the Cathedral is oneof them.

(35:24):
Cathedral is beautiful, thePhiladelphia Museum of Art
iconic.
The way the Parkway is set up.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
That's very nice.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Iconic, the, the even independent, tall, amazing.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Oh yeah, Skyscraper is talking about a skyscraper,
it was Liberty one.
Liberty.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
One is gorgeous, one of my favorite, yes it was, if
you want to also talk aboutarchitecture is also, i think,
originally the way the city wasset up.
It was in a grid format.
Yes, when.
I think you Benjamin Franklin?
Yes, i mean, look at William.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Penn, the obviously city hall dude, It's a fucking
the the the top, the WilliamPenn, William Penn statue The
top, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
And the one thing I want to comment, because on the
whole grid format, i don't knowif you call it architecture, you
can maybe call it city planningis architecture.
Yes, so you plan what I'msaying.
The way the grid format set upis literally like, even if
you're not that good withdirections, you really can't get
lost.
The filly there was actuallyeven Well, at least for me, like
, even if I didn't have the GPSor anything, it's very easy to
get around.
So in.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
you think Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I feel lost real quick.
So we're even seeing where theskyscrapers are, you can kind of
get an idea of where you're at.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Philadelphia architecturally and city
planning.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I'd have to be there more to understand what you're
saying.
It's pleasing, it's pleasing.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
One of my favorite places is Red and House Square.
Red and House Square isgorgeous Yeah, it is nice,
absolutely gorgeous.
Great eateries around there,great bars around there too.
I mean, if you're just goingdowntown, bless you.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Thank you.
How are you season?

Speaker 2 (36:54):
South Philly has some great architecture.
I don't know.
I'm proud of our stadiums.
I think our stadiums arebeautiful Well.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I especially.
I think the link is literallyone of the most iconic looking
stadiums in the entire NFL.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
I love the link.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
So the one thing Bless you.
It's not really art.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
I'm not the bless you , yes, god.
So the one thing I do likeabout our stadiums in this city,
which is not too common, isthat they're all one spot for
the most Yes.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Except the soccer team No but the 76ers are trying
to just not feel it.
I hate when they say thatChester, it's Chester.
The 76ers are trying to breakthe mold, but it's being met
with a lot of opposition becausethey want the stadium to be in
Market Street, a majority of itin a section of Chinatown And,
of course, chinatown's nothaving.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
they are moving the sixes, all right.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Speaking of having that in clearance yet.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I heard that really are thinking of it.
No, they.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's serious consideration And so the thing
is everybody's like.
Well, how is it going to affecttraffic and everything?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
like that, it's going to affect it.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Well, here's the thing If you do that, you have
to look at other cities thathave their stadium in the middle
of the city.
So your primary example isMadison.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Square Garden and Park in the Barclay Center and
and Washington.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Also yes, And also which we call it, and also
Boston.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Oh, and the Devil Stadium.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
So yes, there are quite a few stadiums to draw
from.
So look to see how that works.
So here's how that works Andthe biggest thing was a lot of
people are uncomfortable withthe location, because people who
don't understand the city orknow the city think that all
crime happens right at thefootstep of City Hall, which
it's not true.
The crime happens in the outerline parts.

(38:40):
When you go deep in the NorthPhilly, deep in the South Philly
, deep in the Southwest, deep inthe West, those are where the
crimes happen.
It's very rare that anybodygets murdered or or assaulted in
center city, especially onMarket Street, which is
literally I mean, you're onMarket Street, you're not far
from Old City.
An Old City is one of thebiggest attractions in nightlife

(39:03):
for a lot of people, so you'renot getting those crimes.
So a lot of people are veryconfused and thinking people who
don't live in the city, who areafraid of the city, think
you're putting it in the city.
So a lot of people have acomfort factor Of where the,
where the stadiums are, becauseit's because it's nowhere around
anywhere else, it's nowherealong with it's.

(39:26):
It's not in a quote, unquotebad neighborhood, it's no, you
don't have to travel through,like people, like no one unless
you live there like no one wantsto come through West Philly to
get in the center city.
So when you're getting down tothe nitty gritty of this, people
are saying how are you going todo it?
Well, the other thing peopledon't like to do, take public

(39:49):
trance.
Hmm, because people think, andunfortunately for SEPTA, they
have got a time for desertmeasures, man.
Right, but SEPTA has garneredThat's what I'd be doing A bad
reputation because of quite afew bad incidents that have
happened over the years.
So I can understand thehesitation, but anyway, that's
not what we're talking about.
Talking about art, we rambledfor a second.

(40:11):
Oh shit, that's what we'redoing.
We rambled anyway.
Copyright We're about tocopyright that shit.
So what is?
can you guys have like afavorite picture or piece of art
that you would gladly hang upin your homes, or you know?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
the display, the bucket shot, the bucket shot by
Peter McKinnon, the Marine Lake.
Ok, that thing is unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Awesome Silver is there any.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
What's the famous one ?
The starry night.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Vitz of Van Gogh.
Oh yeah, Absolutely.
My sister actually has a cloneof that.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Nice, nice.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I think, I would.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
She's also a very big and here's another huge art
thing which she's obviously veryinto is, you know, books, and
she's a big Ed Graun Poe fan.
She's all she really into, likeyou know, the crows and
everything with having to dowith that.
So that means that's definitelyvery artistic.
I mean, i wish actually to thisday that I was way more

(41:19):
attention span able to be areader because, like, i want to
be able to read more because Iknow that there's so many more
details and books versus moviesor shows and things like that.
I would love to.
I just like to get I droppedthe mic, drop the mic, but yeah,
i don't know, i wish I had moreof an attention span to to read

(41:40):
more, but yeah, so that's onething I would hang up is is the
picture of Marine Lake, thebucket, shot by Peter McKinnon.
Also, i would kill to have areally good you know performance
shot of Ben Burnley signedhanging up my leg.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
OK, so mine are really weird Nothing, nothing.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
There's no weird about it, i am a porn.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I knew it.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Hey, listen.
He said hey, listen No.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
OK, so who I would really like, what I really like,
what I really like?
OK, so I am a bit of as youguys know, i'm a bit of a nerd
when it comes to anime and stufflike that.
I find the statues of animecharacters awesome.
Ok, so, like statues.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Well, look at Diggin yo.
He has a ton, he yes Figureingsand shit.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yes, yes, absolutely.
He does have a lot of tons, butI like so.
Sean, my son for example, hehas a wall of Funko Pops, The
Funko Pops.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Are they not?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
art in a way.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Like things about a Funko.
What do you mean?
Game, video game, let's goRight.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
There you go.
There's a video game Yeah.
I think I'm just like oh my God, dude.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I mean they're capitalizing on their popularity
.
Why not?
You know, i mean that's they'renot going to be around forever.
It's I don't see Funko beingsomething for a long time.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Right now it's going to be collectible for a while.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
It's basically like a Lego game.
Well, speaking of Lego, Lego isanother collector's item.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Just yes.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I don't care what anyone says.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Collectibles and collectibles, I would say right,
there is a form of art to it.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Sean has.
With my help and his cousin'shelp, he has a replica of What's
this, God, I can't remember.
He's got an X-Wing.
He's got a storm.
A death trooper helmet?
Yeah, I think.
No, a storm, a TIE fighter.
A TIE fighter helmet, Lego,right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Lego.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
He has got Kylo Ren's personal ship, nice.
He's got two Lego dragons Ohwow From the Ninjago series.
He loves them to death, butanyway.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
I think art is so subjective in a fact that I've
been thinking about it lately,like going into this and into
this episode, like you know,like what I consider to be art
now, like even even just thingsthat I've been like learning,
that I really, like I'm intoBelieve it or not I never
realized that shaving, shavingis a fucking form of art.

(44:09):
The reason why I know this isbecause when you're watching it,
like me, if you're watching aguy like a barber shaving a face
or shaving a head or somethinglike that, and you're hearing
the ASMR thing, you're hearingthe sounds of it and, like you
know, the All that shit ASMR,right, it is.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
ASMR, asmr.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
But literally it's actually called.
and like there is a store inthe King and Parchment Mall
called the Art of Shave and Iwas thinking like oh, it's just
cool name.
No, they're actually thefucking art to it, because it
there's a certain way to do it.
It's not just one way to do it,there's 50,000 different ways
to go ahead and shave for yourface or your head or whatever
Your coach, whatever the fuck itis.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
I'm saying in that, Oh boy, In that Oh boy.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
I'm a real boy.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I'm a real boy, I can't do that voice but congrats
.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
That is a queen of art, he said, but congrats.
You know what I'm going tofinish?

Speaker 3 (45:10):
with.
I'm going to say that is a formof art.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
You know what Hayden's here?
Yeah, voice acting, voiceacting.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
But I wanted to get back to the shame, because we
can expand that further, likeeven haircuts or even hair
styles.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Dude, I'll tell you right now barbers, You're such
good artists.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Shout out to not Alexa, her sister Lisa, lisa.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Lisa yeah, She's becoming a matrix hairstylist.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Dude, she has been putting in the work.
She's been killing it And whenshe puts up her work every now
and then I always show Mel andMel's like wow, that's really
good.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
That's really good.
I'm surprised you guys haven'tmentioned this yet.
Tattoo artists Yep, very muchso, very much so.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, i love.
Yes, that's definitely Andhonestly.
I'll give a shout out right nowto Bone Daddy's most
importantly Jay Cunliffe, butthen my guy who has left he's at
a different studio now and Iwill be following him John Pol,
that's my guy who did this workright here.
He kills it, man.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
My guy is Dan.
Okay, so these two family andthe Philadelphia one were done
by.
I believe her name was To startwith Tina.
Tina, i think She moved.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Tina.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Turner No, she was down in a studio on South Street
.
My first two tattoos were thestudio on South Street and then
this one is Dan, that's theVegeta and Trunks the father son
one.
Amazing, i still getcompliments I still get
compliments.
I still get compliments.
Oh man, it's rad as fuck.
I remember, You know, Iremember we were at Hershey.

(46:44):
We were at Hershey and I hadlike I think I had like a
sleeveless shirt on And I'm likewalking around with it People
come up to you.
And people were like oh my god,look at your tattoo.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
I love your tattoos.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
I love your tattoos, and you know what?
I geeked for a little bit ofsomething, oh, yeah, I love your
tattoos.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
And then you got the old ones coming up.
Oh my god, tattoos.
You know that's always going tobe only for the rest of your
life.
Yes, it is.
Are you sure you don't want to?
you know, maybe get that reviewremoved.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
How do you like skin cancer, young boy?
You know what else He went tothe next problem.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, do you know what else is the form of art?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Comedy Absolutely, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
And it's being just.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
And I don't know if he's still in here, but my
co-worker, mike.
he actually has been doing somestand up lately And he's dying
to have me.
He's been mentioning it almostevery day of work.
He actually sent me like a linkYou know what I mean.
He should sign up and do astand up with me.
I'm like dude.
no one thinks I'm fucking funny.
One, two, i don't even thinkI'm fucking funny, like I
couldn't even come up with shitat the top of my head.

(47:48):
Stand up, stand up's hard.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
That's what I'm saying.
It's not easy, i could do it.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
If I'm talking to someone, i could be witty and
shit like that, but if I'mtalking to a crowd that's not
interacting, it's a wholedifferent ball, It's a different
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
I have my one-liners here and there It's different.
But stand up.
I cannot do that, I would justfreeze.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I don't really like this guy.
I feel like he blew up out ofnowhere.
His name's Matt Reif dude.
He's fucking hysterical, holyshit.
And he does interact purposelywith the crowd, like he'll talk
to them and then he'll startroasting the fuck out of them, i
think that's like the best.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
But at the end of the day, the other thing that I
think that, unfortunately,because of some movements and
I'm not going to go ahead andname them but I think comedy is
being destroyed.
Oh, it totally is.
You're meant to laugh at things.
Comedy is a way of taking aserious situation and making it

(48:47):
comfortable, comfortable, a wayfor you to laugh, to kind of
just let it out.
You know what I mean.
In some tense situations.
Now, comedy is subjective,everything's subjective.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
But what's the?
The one thing about comedywhich is kind of weird is that
with a lot of comedy stand-upsand specials, it's a form of
They get the truth out.
They speak a lot of truth in itsometimes And the facts they
cover and stuff like that.
it's weird.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
There is truth.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
It's under the guise of comedy.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
But they get their point across.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
It's crazy, you're not wrong.
And then the other thing is islike listen, i understand that
not everything is for everybody.
Some comedy is very dark.
There's dark humor.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
And I'll be the one to say right from the start that
I can't help but to get downwith some dark humor.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
I can't help it.
I loo crew humor.
Yeah, let's go, let's go, ican't help it?

Speaker 2 (49:46):
No, but here's the thing.
Okay, it's okay, you shouldn'tbash somebody because of that.
Okay, so let's just The guy.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
South Park.
I'm looking at you.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
We were talking about .
Remember the episode.
We should do episode onstereotypes.
Right, I have to do it bymyself.
The guy sends you in the chat,the Asian guy who makes fun of
his own culture.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yes, which is hysterical.
I love him.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
He's absolutely he's the one who gave us the gift and
the mean emotional damage.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Emotional damage.
He is hilarious.
He is hilarious.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
And when I'm laughing , i'm not laughing at a people,
i'm just laughing at his truefunniness, right, right.
People don't understand thatPeople are like well, that's
racist, how could you?
yet You believe stereotypes?
No, he's just taking thestereotypes and he's making them
funny.

(50:44):
Right Period, there was acouple He used to get it.
Who's the guy who does thepuppets?

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Jeff Dunham.
Jeff Dunham, a hysterical dude.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Does he not poke fun at?
And that is that My name is.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Art.
Yes, ventriloquism.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Absolutely Holy shit If that's not talent.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
I don't know what is man.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Remember that girl who won America's Got Talent?

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yes, by seeing small doll.
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, thatwas unbelievable dude.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
She was belting pretty much with her mouth
closed.
Insane.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Insane, couldn't believe it.
I thought it was the most.
It's definitely That's arttalent right there.
It's unbelievable Dancing,dancing.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I know some great dancers.
Yep, i've seen some greatdancers.
Oh yeah, i would tear up thedance floor.
Matter of fact, there's a.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
You know who can dance Ashley.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
You know who else can dance You Mel, not anymore, mel
I feel like she Mel's got,mel's got When she's feeling it,
when she wants to When shewants to In the dancing realm.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
We can also consider cheerleading in art.
But no, it's a sport.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
It's both, So it's both.
I was trying to make a drink,but I actually do support
cheerleading as a sport that hascompetition.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
So that one was nice.
Cheerleading is not a sport.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
It is a sport.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, we've gotten on that before when.
Ashley was on here, i'll tellyou what in art the garbage that
I'm seeing on TV right now.
Oh, fast 10?
.
Come on back, jesus Christ, broWho is this called Fast X?
Fast 10.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I'll answer real quick.
is that like?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
there's Like this is art.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Sorry, watches, watches, watches, yeah, yeah, of
course, the craftmanship thatgoes into it, especially Every
but everything.
That's the thing that.
So this is why I Touched on andsaying actually arts and crafts
last night, because craft is aform of art as well.
I've been getting so into noteven just doing I'm not really
doing crafts, but appreciatingthe craft of like in a

(52:42):
craftsmanship, you know, likeleather making Obviously, like
you know, would work Mm-hmmObviously, like I just said,
like you know, with the barbarbers of shaving, like that
That's craftsmanship, but thatall falls under art.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
So absolutely, I know like then you got magic.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
You know due to do the fucking the card stuff.
Yep, art, that's art of play,right?

Speaker 3 (53:04):
there, i think how we can sum up with art house
subjective, and it's really wideis that art is just something,
anything that anybody Creates.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
yeah, exactly, it's a creation, but but and there is
a but, but.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
There's a limit, i think, and my limit is Lip
syncing tic-tac videos.
Agreed, that is not.
That's not art.
Well, i don't.
I don't understand how you cancall that.
Yes, you can call it contentcreation, but is it really
creative?
now, some people really doFucking master it.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
They're like line for line You can't even tell, would
not even just happen, like ifthey go ahead and edit it to a
point like where, like they'relike Switching and like you know
, i like the whole thing withlike they they'll put their hand
in front of the camera.
Then, like the next thing, youknow, they're like they're
somewhere else.
Not only somewhere else, butthey're a whole, completely
looking different person.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Right that's it's cool.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
That's like the whole makeup thing.
Yes, art right there,absolutely art, straight art
right, if you're, if you'rereally that fucking good at
makeup in any style, whether itjust be you're good at Makeup or
you're like, good at costumemakeup, that's amazing.
Yeah, like I've seen, videos ofgirls been looking like
completely different all of asudden like boom, and they're
like a whole different person.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
That's impressive, it is the editing about it.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
It's a trap.
He said it's a trap.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Jesus age, christ, if you really want to know how she
looks.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
This part right here to a swimming pool.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Dunk her head in, Yo you'll get the true reveal.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Comedy is art guys.
Yes, why did you?

Speaker 3 (54:35):
say that.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
This part right here.
That's gonna be the sound pipe.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Because I'll tell you right now we better get it
before that goes through theminute.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Disclaimer it's humor , guys take it.
Oh, no, no.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, you know, um.
Okay, She said, dunk her headin a swan.
It's like huh.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Jesus, oh my god.
But actually the same works forus men too, because like girls,
like amen, don't come inswimming pool see how big a dick
really is.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Dudes are now like coloring in their beards.
It's disgusting Yeah, it'shorrible.
Like I don't know what peopleare doing.
That shit now fuck that man.
They give themselves like fakehairlines.
Listen, my hairline It's notthere.
I'm ball, let it go.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Oh, natural baby, right like it's.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
It's all natural as soon as it starts to go, embrace
the ball, let it go.
Or if you have the money to dolike the Rogaine shit, like that
, go ahead, give it a try.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Sometimes I would say the transplants over anything
like Rogaine.
I feel like Rogaine is Very hitor miss, because I've heard
that you have to give it atleast a six months trial to even
see if it begins to work.
Yeah, and after that process,you just spent like a couple
hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
It's nothing.
It's a fucking process.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Right, it's a process , but like if you're doing what
my buddy Tony did and he got thetrack So like injections yeah
it worked for him and listen,hey, and he has a full fucking
head of hair.
That's great, that's great.
I'm not spending money It'sworth it to him.
Hey, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
And then what else is what else?
And if I want to look older,i'll make sure I get something.
Touch of gray, do the touch of?

Speaker 1 (56:17):
gray, touch of gray.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Fucking, i can't do you.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I love the commercial .

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I love the commercial touch of gray art style, yeah,
like whatever you're gonna.
Know he doesn't care about that.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Fucking watch, But yes yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
I enjoy that you can say in a way in itself, that's a
style, in a way not care Yeahbut fashion is definitely a form
of art your fashion.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I think, i think, so, i think it is a statement.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
But isn't every form of art a kind of a statement?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, minus, i don't give a fuck, right what you
think about me, i don't care ifyou're creating your fashion, if
you're creating your drip perse.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Yeah, yeah.
It's a form of art rightbecause it it defines you and
Silver's art form you're doing.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Fuck you, i don't care.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Hey period.
his form of art is I love torock fucking Nerd teas, which is
awesome.
He has the best collection nerdteas I've ever seen legit.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
You should see some Tyler shirts Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Okay, well, into the AM.
I love you.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Hey, all right, cuz you follow them like crazy.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
These shirts are dope .
They're shirts are fucking dope.
They're so dope that my son,your god son, yeah, he wants
like, he wants them and I'm likethey're fucking fantastic.
He's still correct me, so youknow it's funny We were.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
We were at your birthday and we were all taking
the shots of rum And he was likecan I get it?
Can I get a shot?
Yeah, but of Coca-Cola.
You know like you're taking ashot, boy.
And he's like, oh Like, no, youdon't get a shot like Coca-Cola
.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
So the point about the nerfy, so the one thing I
like about these sometimes we'vego to the store and I see some
it's really cool.
But I'm right at one time, likethere was a really cool looking
one but it was in the fuckingkids section So it was too small
so I couldn't get it.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
You know what.
Sometimes they do that onpurpose too.
So if you're like a big sneakerhead, these sneakers are like
art form too right.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
But again collectors.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I know right.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Even the designers like I went to that shit.
Why do they give all the kidsall the cool shoes?
Yeah, bro, there are some.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
there are some Jordans you cannot get as an
adult That are made for kids.
There are some bait like Landin size, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
You're like Oh.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
I went and I looked the.
I went.
Now would look them up and seeif they could find them in adult
size.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
No, they like sometimes they see this you
should just buy just to collectthem, just to have it.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I got these little tiny shoes I can never wear.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
I'm actually selling two pairs of my jays, Yeah.
I noticed that but I, of course, when I wasn't selling them.
people are like you know much,you want for them.
now, no, awesome, yeah, fuck,it is, that's how it works,
though.
It is every single time youlike nice, not for sale.
So art of the sale, the art ofthe sale the art of the sale.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
He can speak to the art of the sale because he got a
work, he got money.
Yeah, get them commissionsmoney.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
We're not a work at an upgrade now.
So oh, he said fuck work.
I said it for him.
He didn't say I didn't say fuckwork.
We're not in a work zone rightnow.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
When I'm at work, i'm gonna say, like you know, like
I'm going back to thecraftmanship real quick Like I
know a couple dudes that are inthe trade and I feel like trade
work, like with the crafts, thecrafts, they're true
craftsmanship.
I think that is absolutely avery admirable form of art.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
If you are.
If you ever get to my dad'shouse, yeah, if we, yeah you
ever come over.
There is a table that he made.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Would work, man would work, really intriguing resin.
Mario, he my book Mario, hehe's a carpenter.
And then Shout out to Dan, hejust got his journeyman And he
got top grades his entire class.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
That's awesome huge Congratulations, man.
Also a shout out to Stavitsky.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Absolutely dude.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
That boy put the work in yes, he did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
He put my man.
My man is a welder.
Congrats, and he, he, he put,he put the work in, bro, and I
can't wait to see him actuallyget to work, man, like, actually
like welding a good job.
He's actually Hitting all thesparks, man, i can't wait to see
those sparks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Well, i'd love to see him work on a fucking bridge.
You're some, but I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Actually that's the thing, though, shit like that.
I like to see Little shortslike I.
I'll randomly be scrolling andlike all of a sudden, i don't
like realize, i'm like, wow, i'mwatching it.
Leather ship Leatherman Look atthat in a second.
But like I'll pause.
Little, exactly, goods like onmy hat, that, yeez, the dude who
got me into all thecraftsmanship, like art,

(01:01:03):
watching this guy Step by stepand just shrinking them down
into short little things of himmaking wallets and making
leather crafts dude, it is soInsanely like Intriguing to
watch and soothing you likehearing the noises of it and
watching the steps.
Like, and when you, i don'tknow, i have a thing like what I

(01:01:23):
watch and what.
When I'm watching someone workwith their hands, it's very like
I Don't know.
It seems it's really cool.
It's cool because even watchingthe surgeons I know this is a
completely different thing, butI don't know if that's
necessarily it are I guessthere's kind of an art to it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Fuck, you're taking somebody apart and put them back
together.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, But like so, like
whatever I'm watching, you knowthem do their thing, like I'm
actually paying attention to,like the way that their hands
are like Bent and like it looksneat, like because the things
that we can do with our hands,if you think about it, the
things we can do with our hands,are unbelievable, absolutely.
but that is how art is eventaken is because everything

(01:02:04):
starts with our fucking AI art.
Except for a very I'm sayingthat art starts with our hands,
regardless and then with ourhands.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
That is a great point to end on.
The last thing that I want tosay is Create whatever you want
to create.
Yeah, let's let's, let's, let'sask the Hey who wants to draw
pictures of us, yeah right right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yeah, if anyone, if anyone is a good artist, help
Draw stick figures of us.
I don't give a shit sure, ihave an extremely large gut.
Make us.
How about this?
make us Another emblem.
Hey, why not another logo?
just to feed on for a littlewhile to see if you guys could
be the ones to get.
The next emblem is some pointdown the road.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Yeah, I mean, I love our emblem now, but why not?

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah, why not?
I'm just saying down the roadlike just for a different idea
also, before I cut off, justlisten.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Relationships aren't art.
Okay, it is an art form, it isall right.
Love of art, love, love is areal, it's a real art form and I
hope that each and every one ofour viewers out there has some
form of love in their life.
And we're gonna get out of here.

(01:03:18):
It's time to go, oh that's ourseason, four guys.
That's the finale see forseason five.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
See you guys in the next one.
You, you, you, you You.