Ep. 8 You're Negotiating With a Terrorist with Legislator Vicki Lopez

In this episode of The Black and Jewish Podcast, Ashira is joined by Florida State Representative Vicki Lopez, who shares her deeply personal experience visiting Israel as part of a Florida state legislators' delegation with the Greater Miami Federation. Vicki recounts her emotional visit to the Nova festival site and the kibbutzim attacked on October 7th, offering a firsthand perspective on the devastation.

Together, Ashira and Vicki break down common misconceptions about Israel and the terrorist groups in the Middle East, unpacking how many Americans struggle to understand the region’s complexities. They explore how Israel is often perceived as a smaller target, but the ultimate aim of these groups is America itself.