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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And then you had the
guy who showed up with the
flamethrower and everything.
The missions got a lot easieronce you had the flamethrower.
But because you just I rememberjust running and just like,
fuck it Just, is it a tree?
I don't give a shit, fucking,all the good guys are behind me,
cool, I just.
I just held the trigger downuntil the end of the mission.
I just burned everything, likeSmokey pissed the fuck off at me
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because I burned down at leastat least 11% of that world's.
You know.
Trees were taken out because ofme.
I said fuck them, we don't needthem anyway.
We got plenty more.
It's just an island.
I burned absolutely everythingbecause I was sick and tired of
that shit.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Before we begin
today's episode, we would like
to share a quick disclaimer.
The views, opinions andstatements expressed by the
hosts and guests on this podcastare their own personal views
and are provided in their owncapacity.
All content is editorial,opinion-based and intended for
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Listener discretion is advised.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Sup noobs, welcome
back to another episode of the
Black Curtain Club podcast.
I'm your host who hated ghosts,kyle, and with me tonight we
got the FNG Angie.
Angie, give me a sit rep.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
How you doing.
I'm doing wonderful, absolutelypeachy.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
She just accepted
what the word sit rep was.
Tonight we're going to have alittle bit of a history lesson.
If you're into that kind ofstuff, it's going to be a little
different.
We're going to do a historylesson.
If you're into that kind ofstuff, it's going to be a little
different.
We're going to do a historylesson, gamer style, that's
right.
We're going to be talking aboutcall of duty until we reach
mass prestige or we rage.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Quit so one of us
will decide that I think.
I think rage quit might comefirst yeah, exactly that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So do me a favor,
grab your doritos, shotgun a
mountain dew, check yourloadouts and get ready for spicy
drops in the butt.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I don't know what any
of that means, but okay, let's
go.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Grab Mountain, dew
Woohoo Go team.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Grab.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Doritos the chip
Doritos.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, I know, I
understood that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Shotgun a Mountain
Dew, so you know how you shotgun
.
You do that with a mountain dew.
Check your loadouts, make sureall your weapons and your
attachments and your grenadesall that fun stuff is all set
okay and then load up, get readyfor some spicy drops in the
butt.
I thought, that's what you said,yeah, spicy drops in the butt,
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that is.
I'll slightly explain thatlater.
That's that's when we get to.
When I get to talking aboutWarzone, there was a map that
was on a little island and itwas like it was kind of like an
Alcatraz.
It was like a prison.
I want to say it was a prisonwhatever.
There's a big building right inthe middle there and right
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before you jump out of the plane, a stray friend comes kind of
like bombs a little bit to likeclear out enemies, and there's
this giant hole right in themiddle of the big building.
So we just called it the buttand so in in battle royales,
wherever like the high, thehighest concentrate of loot or
there's some area that everyonegoes to and it's just the, it's
just the fucking okay corral inthere.
And on that map it was theprison.
It was in the butt because thatwas like the quickest way to
like get it went right into it.
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So it was like 40 or 50 peopletrying to drop into that one
area.
So it was just it was justmayhem, so he's called spicy
drops in the in the butt.
Let's let's jump on into the wayback machine and let's head
back to the year 2003.
I was but a wee lad and the oneof the big gaming companies had
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this genius idea let's make awar simulation video game.
And little did they know whatthey were doing.
The very first call of dutydrops in october 2003.
It was very different from whatit, from what we know it to be
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now.
Anyone who knows it.
It's a headache and it's prettymuch just multiplayer.
No one gets shit about thecampaign, but back then there
was at least console wise.
There was no in-depth onlinegaming like Xbox Live and
PlayStation Network.
That was not a thing.
So you had to rely on acampaign, a single-player mode
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and split-screen couch co-opmissions to keep your
entertainment.
So the first three of them hadvery, very long campaigns over
all of World War II on thedifferent fronts that were
happening.
So I mean we're talking like20-something, almost 30
mission-long campaigns.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, yeah.
So if there's one thing thatsticks out in my mind with the
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very, very first, your sergeantis giving some type of a pep
talk to everyone.
I think he goes welcome toStalingrad.
Today you're going and that'show it starts.
And you see the smoke in frontof you.
You just hear the boat and youhear planes going by and you
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hear gunfire.
And he's explaining what it'slike and giving you a quick
rundown of what the battle ofstalingrad has been.
And then it kind, the music kindof starts up very, very low and
it kind of hits this bigcrescendo as you go through,
like the smoke and the fog, andit is just hell on earth.
You just you see the city, thebombed out city, on fire.
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You have the germans just divebombing and strafing the boats
as you're trying to cross.
They're bombing the beaches.
There's just bodies flyingeverywhere.
It is just hell on earth andthe music is playing us misses.
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You like two or three of yourcomrades jump overboard and the
sergeant pulls out a gun andshoots them and says if you
retreat, you will be shot.
He's like, if you retreat, youwill be shot.
It's nuts.
And then you just finally makeit to the beach and do your
goddamn best to survive theBattle of Stalingrad.
That was actually my very firstintroduction to actually I was
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10 years old.
Not a whole lot of in-depthWorld War II education at that
point in your life.
Right From that moment on,though, that one specifically
sticks in my brain.
I can go on and on and on aboutthat specific battle.
It's the most important part ofWorld War II in my humble
opinion.
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Well, you never forget yourfirst no, and no matter how much
trauma it causes.
And uh, you're gonna noticesomething in some of these games
spoiler alert, pretty muchevery single one of them where
you play as a russian during thecampaign in world war ii, it's
at the fucking battle ofstalingrad.
During the campaign in WorldWar II, it's at the fucking.
Battle of Stalingrad.
Oh my God, I swear to fuckingGod, I swear to God Anyhow.
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So yeah, for the first, like Idon't know, five or six missions
.
That's it, you're a Russianduring the Battle of Stalingrad.
And then after that you jumpover to play a couple of
missions as the British forcesduring Operation Tonga.
Tonga, tonga, tonga, I believethat's what it was called.
It's pre-D-Day, so OperationTonga was the airborne the day
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or two before they were going todrop in behind enemy lines and
take out a bunch of the defenses, cause a little anarchy, mayhem
, switch the signs around.
It goes east, they're going tolabel west and west, they're
going to label north, just toscrew up any type of like a
reactive time from the Germansbefore they can counterattack,
while the rest of the boys landon the beach, and that's pretty
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much like the main focus of likethe half a dozen British
missions.
Main focus of like the half adozen British missions.
So what they do throughout thegames is that they touch on
history, but it's all fictionalcharacters and kind of fictional
how history plays out.
What is that?
Creative freedoms for them tokind of screw with whatever they
want to tell.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Then you jump over to
the US with the 506th Airborne
and starting out.
Same thing, starting with theAmericans dropping the day
before D-Day, and it's prettymuch just an absolute shit show.
You're crashing into the otherBritish planes and everything is
just going tits up incrediblyfast and it's just not good.
Then you jump back over to theRussians, you finish out their
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Stalingrad and then you end thegame out with the Siege of
Berlin with them, the Brits.
You just keep on D-Day and youdon't really do much else as the
Brits in that one.
And then the US you end in theBattle of the Bulge.
The last mission is like thesky is clearing, like the sky is
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clearing, the weather'sclearing.
So then the air force is ableto kind of come and give the air
support and patent and histanks come rolling in roll
credits.
You beat the game like howevermany freaking days later, and so
, uh yeah, jump ahead.
Two years brings us to now callof duty 2.
Um, kind of this you know noneed to fix with brooke, right?
So we're gonna do the same.
We're going to make like 30 to40 missions and we're going to
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have you play as the Soviets,the US and the British again,
and we're going to do it thistime.
You're going to play as adifferent soldiers in each of
them.
You know different parts of it,so different divisions, all
with the same type of a goal,except for the Russians, because
russians, because you play as,uh, you know same thing.
It's part of the, the red army,but you start in the defense of
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moscow and the battle of moscow, and then you actually at the
end of it, you kind of hear chitchats and there's chatter and,
like you know, they'rereferencing that the battle of
stalingrad is happening, and sothe match of proferosko, that
happens kind of the, thereinforcements that the russians
did.
So history bit.
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So the soviets were getting theabsolute shit kicked out of
them, like the germans all butcompletely spent them, and it
was like you cannot losestalingrad whatsoever, like
stalin was like this is it?
This is literally the end, thisis the end game.
There's nothing past this.
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If we lose this, pack it in,we've lost.
So just the, just the brutalitythat happened during that
battle and just how fiercely theRussians fought and they held
on and held on and held on.
Because he was amassing anotherarmy with another one of his
generals and they literally tookthe massive long way around,
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literally all the way around theGerman offensive, and they
swooped up behind them and tookthem by surprise, literally
completely outflying them,started shooting them in the
back and then pushed them in andalso kind of so.
So in the second game that'skind of what you do the first
half is you're defending moscow,and then you join up with the
forces to then be the savingforce, if you will, to reinforce
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stalingrad, and it's just Idon't remember massive details
of these games just kind ofthat's kind of the fundamentals
of it.
Uh, the uk, uh, uk, you are,you're in north africa and
you're getting the shit kickedout of you by ronald until the
last, like three, literallyevery mission, you're in a tank
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and you're blowing shit up andyou're driving here, you're
doing this, but like, by the endof the mission you get ambushed
and the tanks overpower you andyou keep, have to keep, falling
back and falling back, andfalling back, and falling back.
Same thing all the way to thesuez canal, and then everything
just kind of turns when theamericans arrive, and then now
you got to push back.
So, uh, that's it it's just,it's you.
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you literally get your asskicked until the last mission.
The last mission is the onlyone one that ends on a happy
note for the British, which iskind of nice, because fuck the
Brits in these games.
Then you jump to the US andmore D-Day, but not the actual
beaches of Omaha and Utahbeaches.
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You don't actually do the.
It starts when you're off thebeach and then you're a part of
the rangers that took out um,point the hawk the hook.
I don't know, I don't speakfrench so, but it was a, uh, it
was a massive cliff that wasoverlooking pond the hook there.
um, it was a massive cliff thatwas overlooking utah beach thank
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you, uh, pretty much all theartillery and the mortars, all
the fun shit was on it, becauseit was you massive cliff that
was overlooking Utah Beach.
Thank you, pretty much.
All the artillery and themortars and all the fun shit was
on it, because it was you know,listen, they don't know it yet,
but Star Wars is going to lovethis they put up all their shit
on the high ground and they werejust fucking obliterating the
beaches.
So the Rangers, once they gotashore, they swooped around,
took them in the rear, bleweverything up, took them from
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behind the old surprise attack,and then from that you just jump
to as far as the US made, onthe German lines, to the River
Rhine, pushing the Germans backacross out of the Rhineland into
the main of Germany.
As you have them, you know,chasing their tails, whatever
the hell it is.
You know you're kicking theGermans' ass back to Germany.
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Same thing, just all campaign,all campaign.
Number three, and again I thinkyou actually were the same army
unit from the second one, justdifferent characters.
You're pushing farther intoFrance, on the way to Paris.
You're taking the cities ofSaint-Lô and you end in the city
of Chambois, the UK.
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You play as British SpecialForces, where you drop way
behind the enemy lines with theMarquis of Resistance.
It's a lot of cloak and dagger.
So there is no main battle inthe liberation of france here.
Everything that happens there,kind of the same thing.
There's no massive battle.
You're just kind of everyoneknows that a lot of cloak and
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dagger, secret stuff washappening.
Then I'm pretty sure youactually played as one of the
units that uh, sir christopherlee was a part of during, uh,
world war ii.
Yeah, because that's that's,that's what.
I'm pretty sure that's what hedid.
I know he he worked for the,the oss and the sas and that's
what he would do.
He was a lot of the likespecial forces shit, like taking
out big guys and like securinga lot of shit, like during world
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war ii.
So that's pretty much what youdo with them, uh, and then you
actually also do a couple ofmissions as the Canadian forces
and the Poles.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So now the big jump
here's my personal I saw
something building up, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
My personal humble.
Like I said right there, thatwas the dawn of time, that was
all the foundation.
So right now, call of Duty isnow so like there's the console
wars.
Which is better?
Playstation and Xbox.
You know Call of Duty had itsrival, medal of Honor, at the
time.
Right now these two are neckand neck.
You know they're both warsimulators.
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You know Call of Duty is doingits thing.
Know called Doodoozoo, and itsthing, medal of Honor, is
essentially the same thing, justfrom a different company.
It's a World War II simulator.
You're playing some of the bigbattles and you move on through.
So they had one called Medal ofHonor, had one called
Frontlines, which wasessentially Saving Private Ryan,
the video game.
You start on the beaches andyou play exactly through that.
You go step by step through themovie essentially and for
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whatever, because Medal of Honorwas actually focusing a bit
more on, like, the authenticity.
So you played as people who wonthe Congressional Medal of
Honor.
So they were a bit more true tohistory, if you will.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
So Medal of Honor was
pretty much outselling Call of
Duty at the time.
They were neck and neck.
But if they kind of kept goingthe way they were going, medal
of Honor would have snuffed outCall of Duty in almost an
instant.
So they switched it up, theyleft World War II and then they
hit the golden era my personalopinion, the golden era of Call
of Duty.
In 2007, they released ModernWarfare.
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Not only did this game changeCall of Duty, the franchise I'm
going to be so bold to say thatit changed gaming.
It changed the entire industryon its head.
It wasn't the first one to giveus online multiplayer.
I'm pretty sure that was.
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Counter-strike was the firstfirst-person shooter online
shooter.
Then you had Halo.
Halo came around.
Modern Warfare flippedeverything on its head because
it gave us multiple differentmaps.
All the other games only hadfour or five.
There was 12 maps in this game.
It was a shit ton of maps withall the different high grounds,
low grounds, the differentterrains, kind of different
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tactics, how you're going toapproach the game.
One, two, customization Not onlycan you choose which weapon
you're going to use, you canchange the attachment.
You can give yourself different, you know, you can give
yourself different.
You know, you can give yourselfa sight, you can give yourself
an underbarrel.
You're changing your equipmentyou can use.
You have your flashbangs, youhave your lethals, you can
switch so much you can, more orless.
I guess the kind of F the pointto think about is you create
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war the way you want to, withinparameters, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It still wasn't
perfect, but it was brand new.
This was around the time that Igot introduced to it.
So yeah we're, we're gettinginto more familiar territory
exactly multiplayer online stuffis.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's still not the
main focus, it's not the main
breadwinner of the game.
There's still a lot of gamesout there, but this is also the
first one where they didn't haveto go off of history.
They could just hire writersand write their own story, okay.
So now, okay, you've explainedhistory, which is fine.
Everyone knows history and howwell you're capturing it.
But now how well can you keepmy attention with your own story
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, create your own world?
How well can you keep me withthat one?
And once again, my personalopinion I think they knocked it
out of the fucking park withthese.
The Modern Warfares are.
They're very nostalgic to me,but they're also my.
Those are my favorites.
That's my favorite one.
That Call of Duty did was theModern Warfares and we were
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introduced to characters likeCaptain Price.
Soap is the character you playas you have the rest of your
little task force there.
You have Gaz.
Later on in the game, you as ajoint operation, or a JSOC team
as they would call them,sergeant Griggs from the United
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States Marine Corps.
He joins up with the BritishSAS to kind of do like a joint
task force.
So different special forcesfrom around the world coming
together for a cause.
Your main baddie is fucking hejust it's just such a great like
bad guy name.
You know, like Hans Gruber,that's a fantastic bad guy name
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yeah.
Imrim, Imrim Zakhaev.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I was going to say I
remember name Zakiyev, beautiful
yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
There's that one and
his little puppet that you
thought was the main bad guyuntil like halfway through the
game Khaled Al-Assad.
So he was kind of they justpretty much took a lot of tropes
from like the Gulf War and thewar in Iraq was in full swing at
this point, where Bush is stillthe president at this time.
So they pretty much took everytrope from like Saddam Hussein,
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osama bin Laden and a bunch ofthe other guys.
They just kind of forced themall into this one guy and he was
like the perfect bad guy at thetime.
And then Imran Zakhaev.
He's every trope of like theRussian bad guy.
So think of Cold War erabaddies Every trope he was.
That he's introduced to us inarguably one of the most famous
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and beloved missions in Call ofDuty history.
It's called All Gillied Up.
You play as a younger versionof Captain Price.
He was just a lieutenant thenat the time.
It's you and it's yourcommanding officer and you're in
Pripyat, ukraine, right on theoutskirts of Chernobyl.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I was going to say,
yeah, there was a connection
there to Chernobyl.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yep, right on the
outskirts of Chernobyl.
It's you and him in yourghillie suits and you have to
sneak into Chernobyl like theway, long way around, and just
you know, evading helicopters,patrols, the dogs, like it is.
If you play the mission right,if you play it the right way,
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you only shoot seven times in it.
You know because you know it'sa sniping mission and it needs
to be stealth and sniping.
If you time your shots right,if you do everything correct,
you only shoot seven times oh,wow that's how intense the
mission is.
Like the one scene that sticksout in my brain you're going
across this big field.
He tells you get down now, andyou're literally laying there.
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And you're crawling throughthis field and then your, your
commanding office, tells youdon't move, and a patrol
literally comes walking by tanks.
If you have to move slowly, atank drives over you as people
are literally walking over youand around you Like I'm talking
centimeters inches away from you.
It's like your heart isthumping during this mission.
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It's insane.
Oh, I love it so much.
And you have to actually sneakthrough the city too and get to
your elevated position.
And then the next one you'reliterally like you're spooning a
bear at 50 Cal in Chernobyl.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It is peak humanity,
it is just mwah.
It's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Oh, yeah, just that
campaign.
It tells a story.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
The story listen,
it's, it's nostalgic for
different reasons, verynostalgic for me.
Okay, yeah and um, it's uh.
It's just been like I said thestory of how it just changes
because, like, the first half ofthe game is like, okay, all
aside, the main bad guy, we gotto chase him.
We got to chase, we got to getafter him.
He's got, he's already.
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Uh, one mission where youthought you had him, it's his
big invasion in iraq.
You're going to get him, we'regoing to capture him.
Hey, the seal team said theyfound a nuke here.
Everyone get out, get out, massevacuation.
So you see all the planes andthe choppers and everything
going and then, like the, theback of the chinook is open.
You're just staring at.
You see the main palace way offin the distance.
Next, you know, boom, themushroom cloud happens, the nuke
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goes off and it just wipes outeverything.
Just the cinematics of the, ofthe game, of the mission, the
way they're telling the story,and then they just pull that
switcheroo on you.
He's not really the bad guy,he's actually like the puppet,
he's just the fall guy, whenreally this guy's been pulling
the fucking strings.
Now we gotta hunt this old.
We gotta hunt this old fuckinggeezer down.
Who's?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
got one arm.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
By the way, you got
one arm and like hell bent on,
like world destruction.
And it's just his.
His son is in like thetracksuit with like the
cigarette and he runs like a sonof a bitch.
There's so many tropes, there'sso many tropes, it's, it's all.
It is borderline insulting.
Borderline insulting.
Um, it was just, it was just somuch fun, like I said it, just
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so they were able to tell onehell of a story.
Keep you guessing till the end.
There's just the massiveshowdown on the bridge.
Spoiler to everybody.
So the last, last mission.
You're like, oh no, all the badguys chasing.
There's helicopters and there'sjeeps and there's tanks and
there's chasing you.
You just got a big gun and arocket launcher you're shooting
out of of the back of the Jeepas the captain's like driving
and dodging and swerving andwhatever the fuck, because you
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stopped the nukes from blowingup and everything else.
Right.
Really one of those James Bondcar chase kind of things.
Yeah, yeah, and then the onechopper gets in front of you and
he starts to blow up the bridge.
So you kind of crash, now yougot to crawl, whatever the hell.
It all shot to shit.
So you're like all dazed andconfused.
So, sergeant Griggs, he's likedragging you to safety, and then
it's all kind of blurry andkind of hazy.
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So he stops, he pulls out hisLMG and he's shooting, shooting,
bang, bang, bang.
He takes three shots.
He falls all dramatically andslow and he's dead.
And then you start looking over.
You see, captain Price, captainPrice is taking like two to
like the chest or like theshoulder or something like that.
He's like bleeding out.
Then you kind of come to.
You see Zakhaev walking towardsyou, all slow, with his one
dumb fucking arm and his jacketpinned up like a jackass, two
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other heavily armored.
So you just see like it's allover, right, yeah, the dude
gathers in front of you.
He's like standing up.
He probably said like fuck youto the guy and he just zakiya,
just bang, just waste him.
So you're like the last one,your team is all dying around
you and then, like in slowmotion, some reinforcements come
out of nowhere.
Of course, they fucking blow upthe chopper and everyone's
looking away.
So then price slides you thegun, you grab the gun and you
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take out the two guys he's withyou, shoot him, the boom, you
killed everybody.
And then he just fucking croaks.
And it's like that last secondjohn mclean moment, the absolute
Hail Mary action film.
They told one hell of a fuckingstory.
It was fantastic.
And then, like I said, that'sjust the campaign.
Now you got the multiplayer andlike I said the customizations,
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the missions.
There was just so much to do inthis game.
So much to do.
Not only did it take thisfranchise, like I said before I
started talking about, only didit take this franchise, like I
said before, and start talkingabout it.
It took this franchise and itlaunched into the stratosphere.
It took the industry videogames and just completely
reworked it from the inside outand it became the superpower.
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That is when it became adominant video game.
From there, everyone wasplaying it, everyone was hooked,
everyone was talking about itand they haven't stopped since
2007 with modern warfare.
Now there's been some stinkersin there.
Trust me, I can't wait to getto those.
Since then, call of duty hashad I would say has just had a
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solid grip on video games since,uh, another one of my very deep
.
So if I have another one of myvery deep favorites of all the
world war ii themed ones, thisone, this one's my favorite here
.
Like I said, right now we're inthe golden era of call of duty.
They had one, two, three, four,five, six.
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They had six straight allbangers.
No skips games straight sixstraight years they just
released hit after hit after hit.
They didn't try to one upthemselves that.
I saw it as I saw it kind of aslateral stepping, which was
totally fine, because if you trytoo hard you fucking fail.
Like if you try to beatsomething, you, you overdo
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something and you kind of fuckit up.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Um they just kind of
lateral stepped with everything
they did.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
They just improved on
the one before it, which was
amazing world at war.
So the probably the mostgraphic and the most brutal
installment in the franchise.
This one introduced um,dismemberment, massive amounts
of gore nice horror and this wasthe one that gave us the nazi
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zombies mode.
So they went extra hard intothe uh horror realm with this.
Yeah, they did not skimp awaywith okay, we're gonna make it
more violent, more graphic, morewe're gonna swear now, so on
and so forth.
And then they just tripled downon that with world at war,
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first mission, your um, yourmarine recon division, on making
that out in the pacific.
So the us campaigned this, whenyou focus on the pacific, when
they said we had enough ingermany the past three games, we
need to tell the pacific side.
So in the us missions you takemakinato, but we needed a big um
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like a hub kind of setupbetween midway and you know the
rest of like.
From there you can take you,you can take the Philippines and
everything else.
And then Peleliu.
So Peleliu Island was the firstairstrip.
So now we can get our airsupport regularly.
We have more than just ourcarriers, we have a closer,
actual landing strip.
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That was another absolutefucking nightmare of a landing,
depending who you talk to.
Depending who you talk to, itwas the first introduction of
amphibious landings.
That was arguably just as bad,if not worse than D-Day, was
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Peleliu, and then it just gotworse and worse.
As we got closer to mainlandJapan, it got worse and worse
and worse and fucking worse.
So, like we're talking Pelejapan, it got worse and worse
and worse and fucking worse.
So, like we're talking palau,we're talking iwo jima, we're
talking okinawa, like bloodbaths, absolute bloodbaths, carnage,
um, so that's really what theycaptured for the americans.
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Was that?
Was that grisliness.
How many times during thatcampaign, as you're playing on
those maps and then, like youjust hear like a whistle blow
and then all the soldiers likejump up and they're swinging at
you with katanas or they havegrenades, their booby trap, they
have grenades strapped to theirchest and everything that
they're just popping out offoxholes and out of the trees.
Like absolute terror in thegame, just the most jump scares
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in the video game.
Um, and then you had the guy whoshowed up with the flamethrower
and everything.
The missions got a lot easieronce you had the flamethrower,
but because you just, I rememberjust running it, just like fuck
it just, is it a tree?
I don't give a shit, fucking,all the good guys are behind me,
cool, I just, I just held thetrigger down until the end of
the mission.
I just burned everything, likesmoky the bear was pissed the
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fuck off at me because I burneddown at least at least 11 of
that world's.
You know, trees were taken outbecause of me.
I said fuck them, we don't needthem anyway, we got plenty more
.
It's just an island.
I burned absolutely everythingbecause I was sick and tired of
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that shit, like they.
There was a lot of.
There was a lot of uprising.
Try to get the game banned inthe US.
Because in Okinawa they showedOkinawa was the last major
battle in the Pacific.
It's just the last major battleof World War II period.
Because during the campaign ofOkinawa was when we dropped the
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bombs, but the sheer desperationthat they were at at that point
, the Japanese, and that werealized that it's just, it's
never going to end, it'sliterally never going to end.
So it's just those last twomissions that you play, as in
the US campaign.
It is exactly that.
And at that point too, becausesupplies were screwed up,
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because the kamikazes weremessing with the fleet so much,
they were so damaged, you havealmost no ammo in the game.
Like that's, that's they.
They really kind of focus on,like really what it was, like
they captured, like I said theycaptured the horrors of that for
the troops.
You had very low um heels, youwere bogged down.
There was nothing you can doabout anything.
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The mud your character wasmoving so slow through it.
Um, basically just such limitedon resources and ammo.
They in early stages of thegame they actually did have, uh,
npc enemies animated as likeyounger, like kids, because they
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did that a lot wow oh, that was.
They got in a lot of trouble forthat once they did, but but you
did see the um, you did see alot of civilians in those
missions, a lot of civiliansgone.
Uh, they've really.
Yeah, like I said, this gamewas very dark.
It's even when you know it's avideo game.
It's a mature video game.
For a reason I always want alot of people with that game
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because it's very oof, it'srough, yeah, and then but you
know I mean in their defensethough you.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
The whole point of
the game is to bring you into
realism with war.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I can see why they
would build that in.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Exactly, exactly.
Like I said, that was just fromthe US campaign the Soviets we
started at Stalingrad.
That mission starts off.
You are in a mass grave, youare literally hiding under dead
bodies and you wait for thegermans to walk by and then you
climb out of that that's how therussian missions start.
And then you move to siloheights.
You move all the way to thereichstags in berlin, um and
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same thing.
It's just the.
At that point, after stalingrad, the Germans pretty much were
in full retreat.
You were just beating them asthey were like stumbling down.
You get to the last couple ofmissions in Berlin and they're
surrendering and your COs arestill like fuck them.
You know what I mean.
You're hitting them withMolotov cocktails, you're
blowing them in half with doublebarrel shotguns.
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It is urban trench warfare atlike.
It's absolute worst If you can.
So same thing.
They just it was just thatrealism, that shock, that
brutality.
They captured in that one very,very well, in a, in a messed up
way.
They captured it very well.
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And then, as a nice littletreat, after you completed the
campaign, the game cuts theblack and you see one of the
maps.
It's kind of weird.
You see something kind ofwalking towards you and then
running and then yelling, andthen you, what the fuck is that?
And the screen goes black andit says like written in blood
nazi zombies round base warfare.
And yeah, the new game modethat they added naz zombies.
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So it's like your typical okay,defend this area.
They're going to just waveafter wave survival mode.
See how long you can live, man.
The amount of time I spentplaying in that, that's got its
own story that I'm not going totouch on because it's just way
in depth it's way too much, yeah, yeah.
But it was worth mentioning thatthat was the one that gave us
Nazi zombies, Jesus man.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Just was the one that
gave us nazi zombies.
Jesus man, just, I mean a giftof humanity, right, yeah, you
know if you want to call it thatyou get to kill zombies and
nazis.
It's.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
It's a twofer, it's a
win, it's a win, win, win,
everybody wins in that one rightexcept there is no end to that.
It is on an.
There is no end to nazi zombies.
You just survive until you can.
I think the record is like 200level, 200, something or other,
but it would just.
It keeps going to infinity.
There is no way to beat it ohwow, yeah you want to have a
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real gift to humanity.
Modern warfare 2 the best handsdown, no questions asked.
I'll fight anyone.
Fight anyone that this is thebest call of duty they ever made
yeah as as groundbreaking andas um new and fresh that modern
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warfare 1 was.
This one just did that samething and it doubled down.
So much more customization,twice as many guns, twice as
many attachments you can putmultiple attachments on a gun.
So this is just all themultiplayer alone new game modes
, insane new maps, justabsolutely just mind-boggling
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amount of content.
They added now challenges toget new skins and camos for your
guns too.
So now we have challenges andthe different perks challenges
to make the perks even better,the infamous um lightweight pro,
commando pro and oh shit, whatwas the other marathon pro.
So you have those three.
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You move faster, you haveunlimited sprint.
In Commando Pro, you didn't takefall damage and your melee was
like doubled.
You were literally lunging atplayers like you were the
fucking predator in the jungleof Venezuela.
You could like cross map dudeswith your knife.
You lunged at them like crazywith your knife and the knife
thing at this point was aninsta-kill.
So that was like one of myfavorite things.
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And then this is where theinfamous noob tube was born.
Noob tube is a reference ifyou're a noob or a jackass.
Yeah, you don't know what thehell you're doing.
In a video game you have theunder barrel attachment.
It's a grenade launcher or atube.
It's pretty much how you told.
If you sucked at the gamebecause you couldn't actually
like shoot anything and youraiming was bad, you just the
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actual.
It was like shooting a smalltactical nuke.
That's how strong the fuckinggrenades were in this game.
Like you could just launch itinto a bunker.
You just annihilated everything.
You mix.
You mix that with uh.
You mix that with the Akimbomodel 87s.
Uh, one man army.
You mix that with the AkimboModel 87's One man Army.
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One man Army was an attachmentto where you could switch your
loadout mid-match right, so thisgame also gave us exploitation.
So what you would do is youwould have two gave us
exportation yes, that's exactlywhat it did, like I said there
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was.
This is exactly what it did,because this is what you got.
You would create two classesand you would have your primary
weapon would be an assault riflewith a grenade launcher
attachment.
You would put on the perk thatgave you extra grenades and they
did more damage and then, asyour secondary was that perk,
one man army to where you canswitch your class mid-match.
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You just copied that and youmade that.
You made that.
So you just copied that loadoutto like your loadout two.
So you play as loadout one.
Shoot all your grenades, useall your grenades, get all your
kills, your grenade, use yourone man army, switch to loadout
two.
Boom, you have all yourgrenades back.
You have all your explosivesback.
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You have all your equipmentback.
You use all that ammo.
One man army.
Switch back to loadout one.
All your.
It's just, it was infinitegrenades and you could.
You just kept spamming it androtating and rotating, and
rotating and rotating.
So that's just, no one hadskill.
Everything was blowing up.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Everything was
blowing up let's see, that's
what I like blowing shit up theability to infinite blowing
stuff up.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no,
and they never patched that.
They patched everything else,like any gun.
That was way too much or orwhatever anything else could be
exploding.
The game they fixed.
Except that, except the one manarmy, yeah well that was nice
of them.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
No, it wasn't those
dicks.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Are you kidding?
That should be the first thingyou fucking switched.
No, the first thing they fixeddefinitely was the akimbo model
87s.
No, the akimbo model 87s was,remember, the really cool
shotgun that schwarzenegger used.
The second terminator, the leveraction one yeah you could run
around with two of those, youcould dual wield those suckers.
And when I tell you those, ohmy god, so they didn't even hit
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like the nuke.
The nuke was the grenades.
Those things hit like themanhole cover that the atom bomb
sent into space, but think oflike 47 of them at the same time
.
So people were running aroundand you could cross map with a
shotgun.
I'm having very bad flashbacksright now, so I'm gonna move on
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okay all right what you got nextoh, the honorable mention in
the campaign of that one.
That's the campaign that gave usno Russian.
Anyone who knows Call of Dutyknows what I'm talking about.
I'm not going in depth about it.
So shout outs to no Russian.
We are all psychopaths fordoing what we did.
Now we're moving into Black Ops.
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Black Ops we are a little bitof history, but still having our
fun.
It's kind of a little bit likeearlier to where they just kind
of take spark notes of historythroughout the Cold War but then
they write their own story.
That kind of happens there, butthey kind of touch on big Cold
War moments, if you will.
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So you have Bay bay of pigs.
The very first mission is, uh,failed attempt at the
assassination of fidel castro.
You get captured, um so op 40.
Uh, vietnam.
Uh, mountain yamantah, shitlike that, sleeper cells,
brainwashing that's what happensto your character at the end of
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the first episode.
Spoiler alert by alert by theend of the campaign there's a
whole lot of what the hell'sgoing on.
So one character is kind ofshowing up, a Russian, actually
the Russian from World at War,your sergeant from there.
He's kind of showing up oh myGod, he's still alive.
He's here.
He's really not there.
But then other people are likewho the fuck?
What the fuck are you talkingabout?
That makes no sense.
Your, your character, istalking to him and they're like
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he's not here.
What are you talking about?
Come to find out you werecaptured by the soviets in that
first mission.
You were brainwashed to be oneof like this.
The kgb, like sleeper, kills.
You know, sleeper assassins, umtasked assassinating jfk oh god,
yeah, that's what it was, andso when you were in the prison,
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you were in the same prison thatthat r Russian sergeant from
World at War was at.
He undid the brainwashing butalso did some brainwashing of
his own.
So the main bad guys theSoviets they brainwash you to
kill JFK Well, your littleSoviet buddy buddy there.
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He undid that.
But then he brainwashed you tokill those.
The three like lead scientists.
The three main bad guys.
It's funny.
You're by the end of it, you'recompletely insane and you're
just like screaming and justlike I'm vetra res.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I'm Victor Reznov.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
No, you're not.
You're Alex Mason.
What are you talking about?
I'm Victor Reznov.
It's fucking nuts.
All the while the cut scenes,ed Harris plays a character of
the CIA.
You're being interrogated.
Oh yeah, this is also when theystarted adding like celebrities
into the games.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah so.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Black Ops Fuck yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Ed Harris is like the
main CIA guy Hudson.
He's like interrogating you andlike super pissed off at you
and also the kind of fun stuff.
Ice Cube plays one of the guysin your team.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
The main character,
the main voice actor for the
person you play as Alex Mason isSam Wor, uh, sam worthington.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Is that his name from
avatar?
Okay, yeah, so yeah, this iswhen they started with big names
in some of these, uh, in someof these games also.
Um, they didn't write the songspecifically for the game, but
they got the okays from avengesevenfold to use their song
welcome to the family and thepromos for the game.
So this is now we're startingto get celebrities involved.
That's how big this franchise isbecoming um, and then their, uh
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, their online was kind of rinseand repeat of the other ones
there.
That one also included, uh, azombies mode, uh, actually the
one for that, if I remembercorrectly, the first zombies.
At that point you're notkilling Nazis anymore, it's just
called zombies.
At this point, I think thatfirst mission, the first zombie
one that you have, you play asthe, the, the playable, the four
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playable characters.
You can be our JFK, castro,nixon and McNamara.
It's fucking hilarious, likethe voice actually, like you're
in the white house and you'relike these undead flesh guide
maggot faces.
I will end them all like it'sso funny.
The jfk.
The jfk is so over the top.
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The nixon is absolutelyridiculous.
He was just like the only thingworks on the undead fucking
hippies.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
It's so fucking funny
it is fucking, hippies fucking
hilarious, like the amount ofstuff they make.
He makes watergate jokes oh mygod, it's so fun.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
oh, oh, what's his
name they have, uh, they have
jfk cracking marilyn monroejokes like oh they spared, they
spared no expense with, like thecomedy and the satire of that
mission.
It was fucking ridiculous.
Modern Warfare 3.
Jump back to Modern Warfare.
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It's the end of a trilogy.
They close it all out.
This one Eminem did write thesong for, so the song they used
in the promos was it was a won'tback down.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
The one he did with
pink.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Okay, turn the wall
back down One of the greatest
gym songs ever.
Anyway, um more celebrities inthis one, the other two, the
other two characters of the U Sspecial forces is Timothy
Oliphant.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
Oh, okay, and Idris.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Elba OohS Special
Forces is Timothy Oliphant.
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
And Idris Elba.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Ooh okay.
Oh yeah, it was a very fun gameto play, but World War III has
broken out and the Russians areabsolutely obliterating you and
they kind of take the fight tothem Halfway through the game.
It's really weird becauseyou're actually I think someone
actually makes the joke huh,never saw this happening.
They've built on top of worldwar three happening.
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It is broken out because of notbecause the actual world
leaders, but because of terrorsleeper, like terror cells or
ultra nationalists as they'reknown um okay, they're just just
the pot stirrers there.
So the no russian mission wetalked about, that was the
massive catalyst.
So your, the, the russianterrorists, commit an absolute
(45:53):
atrocity.
And because you were a a uh, anamerican soldier undercover
that they found out about, theykill you and they leave you
there.
So then the the only personthey see that's responsible for
it is an American.
So they think the Americans arebehind it.
So then the Russians startWorld War III.
They declare war on the USbecause they thought the
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Americans committed thisatrocity on their soil.
So for the rest of ModernWarfare 2 and throughout all of
Modern Warfare 3, that's what itis it's just the russians, the
americans in full scale, all outworld war 3.
They went insane with it.
So much fun, so fucking sad.
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That campaign is so fucking sadby the end of it.
Well, this is the next one I'mgoing to talk about is the last
one, and then my attitude isgoing to change drastically
because, like I said, this isthe last one.
This is the last one of thegolden era, black Ops 2.
People will get in the pissingcontest which one was better
Modern Warfare 2 or Black Ops 2?
But we all can just agree that,just like the Lord of the Rings
movies, the second one is thebest.
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So the Two Towers is the best.
Modern Warfare 2 is the best.
Black Ops 2 is the best.
Those are the pinnacles ofthose runs of the franchises.
Black ops 2 does get a littledifficult to follow the campaign
because you jump back and forthbetween alex mason in the cold
war and his son, david mason, inthe way off in often.
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This game came out in 2012 okayum.
This game took place in the wayfuture of 2025 oh wow, way
future, yeah the way.
Future of 2025.
So it's.
It is kind of funny, though,because that game took place in
2025.
Like all the crazy like techthey had and it was just like no
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, it's just no, it's funny.
Like the full active camo suitsand like the um, yeah, it's
just ridiculous.
Those like, uh, whatevermission impossible movie it was,
where he has those gloves andhe like climbs up the side of
the building yeah, like yourteam has, your team has those.
Yeah, just regular soldiershave those fucking gloves and
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you're climbing up the sides ofbuildings to like regular
infantry, not a special forcesunit, regular infantry just has
those fucking gloves and activecamo.
Yeah, get fucking bent.
Dude, um, um, a whole bunch ofthe same thing.
So, like the backside of theCold War and the really nasty,
gnarly shit Um, mk Ultra isbrought up, that's fun.
Oh, operation PaperclipOperation Paper ultra is brought
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up, that's fun.
Oh, operation paperclip,operation paperclip is brought
up.
Yeah, a lot, all the shady shit.
All the shady shit is broughtup in that one.
So that's why those missionsare a lot of fun.
The world war three has endedin the second cold war has
happened in this game and uh itgets a little.
Like I said, it gets a little.
Just play it if you're reallyinterested in the story.
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But the basis of it, the coldwar that's going on, is between
the of Al-Qaeda and theMujahideen Jesus, yeah, so
(49:17):
there's a lot going on, trust me.
It makes a lot more sense whenyou play the game.
It makes a lot more sense.
They just got everyone involveduh, yeah, like everyone wants a
piece of the pie this was likethe one and only campaign where
they actually had the um, the,the uh, the choices that you
could do.
So, like in almost each mission, it was okay, what do you
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choose?
Do you go to do this, do you goto do that?
And the choices you made inthose missions drastically
changed what happened in latermissions.
I'm the zombies in that one wasa lot more fun.
You got an insane amount ofcelebrities in zombies for that
one.
So you you had Ray Liotta, youhad Nice.
(50:06):
I keep forgetting the actor'sname, but I want to say it was
Mr Orange from Reservoir Dogs.
Him Quentin Tarantino and RonPerlman was an also.
So yeah, Another one of themaps, Tim Roth.
(50:27):
There it is, Tim Roth.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, sorry, it took
me a minute.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
Thank you very much I
knew you were going to.
It was like she's just going toGoogle it or whatever the hell
it is.
Yeah, there was a lot.
There was so much to that oneEvent.
Sevenfold actually did write asong for that game, their song
Carry On.
They wrote for that game, theyused in that game, they promoted
in that game and the actualending ending so the end credit
(50:50):
scene was two characters in thegame, woods and Menendez.
They're kind of there and theyhave a kind of a chit chat and
next thing, you know, m Shadowsand Cinder Gates from Avenged
Sevenfold they come over, theysay some shit to you from avenge
sevenfold.
They come over, they say someshit to you.
They said, hey, get the fuckout here, we gotta play.
And then you end up playingwith avenge sevenfold.
So it's like it's like a little.
It's like a little concert withlike a bunch of different
animated.
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So it's a bunch of thedifferent characters from the
game.
They're like at the concert andthey're dancing and playing
around.
It's fucking great, it's it wasso fun, it was so fucking cool,
so fucking cool.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
No, but that's I,
it's, I think you know, those
little, those little things,those little pockets of I don't
know.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's like a little
nerdgasm, that's that makes it,
makes it worthwhile yeah yeahnow we're gonna fly through the
rest of through most of these,because then we kind of they
kind of shit the bed on a lot ofthese next games coming, which
is a real fucking shame.
Oh yeah, this is, this was.
Yeah, this was kind of, yeah,this was bad.
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Ghosts Call of Duty ghosts it'snot the worst, but it's
definitely the first bad one.
They were getting the shitkicked out of them.
This was where they gotabsolutely the shit kicked out
of them by battlefield.
This is where what is calledquote-unquote levolution was
introduced into games.
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Ghosts had one mission, had onemultiplayer map where if you
did certain things on it, if youum, you were in like a
high-rise sky, uh, skyscraper,uh, if you did certain things,
explosives went off and so, likethe top half of the building
like fell on its side and gotwedged between another one and
every like.
So now the mission was ghostfrom being right side up.
(52:32):
Now everything is like on itsside and you're running through
like a building that's like onits side, like kind of like
inception okay, yep, likebecause everything's like all
screwed up.
So now you're right, you know.
So now the walls are the floorand the ceiling and the floor
and the ceiling are now thewalls is everything is all
fucked and falling.
And then the the, it just kindof keeps falling and shaking and
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shit keeps moving around.
So I swear battlefield, everymission could be completely
changed and blown up anddestroyed either way.
Uh, they had a really cool.
I'm not even gonna talk the.
The campaign is so fucking badin that one that was the first
fuck awful campaign they did.
It was every trope of just likejust bad 80s action film.
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You could fucking think of aspec ops team a, a, a, um, make
believe, spec ops team of likeyears.
They were just called theghosts and they wore the masks
with the skulls.
They were so badass, like thethis one guy.
You know you're.
You know you're the characteryou play as your father is
telling you the story and thethe voice the guy who voices him
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was like the hardcore sergeantfrom avatar so he's like, so
like he's like your dad andtelling you and then like some
fucking attack starts happeningon the us and you're running and
some post apocalyptic,dystopian shit happens.
Come to find out your dad wasone of the guys and like that
special ops unit and the mainbad guy is like the dude who he
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was also a part of that unit buthe was like the really reckless
one and whatnot and so like ona mission where they were all
going to die.
It was either okay, we eitherlet this guy go or we all die,
kind of a thing.
So now he's just bent onrevenge of wiping these guys out
.
So it's just, it's a really badrevenge story and he looks like
a wannabe Jesse Ventura fromPredator.
(54:27):
That's just how bad Characterdesign the story.
It just kind of ends oh no.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
For no reason it
sounds so bad.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Oh yeah, the ending
showdown is you and your brother
.
You're now a part of thisspecial force unit, the ghosts.
You're on this train with allthe nukes that's gonna like blow
up the world, that the main badguy, rork, is on and you're
fighting over it.
In in the fucking in like thethe main, what control room of
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this fucking trick?
It's not even like a regulartrain, it's like some stupid
fucking high-tech train.
And, uh, you're there, so he'sgot your, your brother, like a
headlock and your brother's like, oh, just do it.
So you take like a fucking 44magnum and like you shoot a hole
through your, you shoot throughyour brother's shoulder and you
shoot the main bad guy.
He takes it square to the chest.
(55:18):
He has a through and through,through center mass, his sternum
from a 44 magnum.
For those of you who don't know, you're not fucking living from
that like to the point wherenow you see you're oh yeah, by
the way, your train has now goneliterally off the tracks and is
now sinking to the bottom oflike the ocean right, so your
underwater wall is happening, soyou can see that the bullet
(55:40):
went through him and is now, youknow, like gone through the
window and like the waterstarting to drip in and all this
other shit before the frontwindshield just gives out you
know about to drown.
Miraculously the bad guysurvives and now kicks the shit
out of you.
It's fucking horrible oh no,it's every bad trope, every bad
trope is just there but, wedidn't have zombies in this game
(56:03):
, like the little game modewasn't zombies, it was called
extinction and it was an alieninvasion.
So that one was a lot of fun.
It was new.
It wasn't as good as nazizombies, but it was different
and I liked their take onsomething else, because that
fucking campaign was just so bad.
And this was also the first onewhere you could choose either
your character was a male or afemale.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
My wife slightly
despises this game because she
realized something thechallenges were different for
the men and the women.
Speaker 2 (56:35):
Oh yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 1 (56:37):
There's two weapons
that my wife loves using
whenever we play Call of Duty.
Lauren either uses a sniper, soshe's laying down somewhere,
she's on overwatch, she has thebiggest gun with the most
bullets and she just fuckingruns like a psychopath and just
shoots the rambo, just, fullrambo, she just would.
Just she runs into the smoke,lays down and just spins like a
(56:58):
beyblade from hell.
Right, yeah, right, total aggro, she's a tank.
Well, the challenge to get theghillie suit for the guys was
get like for, for if you had amale character was like get like
100 headshots with a sniperrifle.
Right, kind of a pain, but verydoable.
For the women, you had to get100 headshots with a specific
(57:22):
sniper, with a specificattachment, which made your gun
weaker and the recoil fuckingthrough the roof so like it was
oh, it was the challenges forthe women.
To unlock the kit, to unlock theskins were so much more
difficult.
I mean twice, if not threetimes as hard anyone ever call
(57:44):
them on their sexist bullshit um, enough people, because they
never did that again in anyother games.
Good, you could be a woman, youcould choose to be a man or a
woman, but there was no morechallenges like that to do it.
And there was and on themultiplayer too, there would be
this little like floatingbriefcase.
If you picked it up, a littlechallenge would and would be in
(58:04):
the corner on some of the mapsand it was like a little map
exclusive challenge to do.
It was oh, get two melee kills.
Um, each map it's somethingdifferent.
They introduced this with likea horror themed map.
You could see that there's alot of tropes and easter eggs to
like.
Friday the 13th nightmare onelm street, child's play, so on
and so forth.
(58:24):
If you completed the challenge,you turned into michael myers.
Oh, you're kicked.
You turned into michael myers.
The song started playing.
You ran around with an axe.
You took, like, your health waslike twice as much.
You ran super fast and you,like you were chopping people up
with a fucking axe it wasawesome.
Yeah, that was.
(58:45):
That was the first stinker.
The next one the story was good, but everything else kind of
sucked.
Advanced warfare did a solidstory.
This was the first one thatthey actually did motion capture
.
So the story itself this is thefirst one it was it was
visually, it was stunning.
This was the first game thatthis was the first um call of
duty that released on the xboxone and the um the ps4.
(59:07):
So the graphics were great.
This was at the height of theshow house of cards.
So kevin spacey was the bad guy.
Um oh nice yeah, it was yeah alittle bit, yeah, a little
bummer on that one.
Um, the absolutely amazing uhvoice actor, uh, troy baker,
(59:28):
plays the main protagonist thatyou play as.
Uh, this is the one that gaveus exosuits.
This was the first likefuturistic game they had.
So you had the exosuits now, so, like the big mechanical shit
on, like your arms and your legswhen you can jump higher,
double jump, wall running.
The game was much faster.
The multiplayer was very, very,very fast-paced.
At this point, yeah, it justkind of went to shit.
Their multiplayer sucked inthat one and the campaign was a
(59:49):
little bit better.
They took some of the writers,I think, from House of Cards, so
the campaign story was solid.
Everything was just that gamewas just clunky.
It moved way too fast.
After that, let's take anothergiant shit black ops 3, yeah, 26
(01:00:11):
.
The game takes place in 2065.
I am just god, if you reallycare, same thing, google the
synopsis of this one.
I'm not even going to try toexplain the story.
It's so confusing to thisfucking day and it makes no
sense to me at all.
There's weird mind control,cybernetic stuff and brain
(01:00:36):
control and body augmentationsand like a chip that's installed
.
They just I can't even begin todescribe how fuck awful it is.
It is still.
I still don't get it.
I've played it a dozen timesjust to try to understand it and
I still don't.
Yeah you, ready for this, readyfor this one?
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
That's the second
worst Call of Duty.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Oh God, there's a
worse one.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
This next one.
This next one, in my opinion,is the most horrendous, terrible
, fuck, awful Call of Duty inexistence Infinite Warfare.
The game takes place in 2187.
And one mission takes place onEarth.
The rest of it takes place inspace.
It's space call of duty,different planets.
(01:01:28):
You're on mars and you're inintergalactic like space
carriers, aircraft carriers, andthere's space battles like star
wars.
I'm telling you the game was sobad.
I don't really.
I just kind of remember some ofthe high points.
About high points I mean verylow points.
The the campaign is.
The story is easy to follow.
(01:01:48):
It's that there's.
You know, we've expanded to thedifferent planets, um, and we
have colonies on some of theseplanets.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
it's just oh nice,
yeah, and the multiplayer, the
multiplayer.
Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
it just same.
It's specialists.
They went from like 12specialists from Black Ops 3
down to six Oof, and it's noteven the fact that they went I
can feel your blood boilingright now.
No, here's where my blood isboiling, because they just stole
Noble Team from Halo Reach.
(01:02:23):
Like character design.
The quote unquote what theabilities of that specialist was
was like their correspondingSpartan from that game.
Like to the pink scheme of yourarmor, the blue one was the
blue one.
The green one was the green one.
The sniper was the sniper Likethe heavy weapons guy.
Was the sniper like the heavyweapons guy?
(01:02:47):
The heavy weapons guy with thebad cockney accent was the heavy
weapons guy with a bad cockneyaccent like oh, they didn't even
try to fucking hide it.
They didn't even try.
Fuck that game.
It can burn in hell actually,oh god.
After the year 2187 we go backto the 1940s, in world war ii,
in call of duty, world war ii um, same thing as they did before.
(01:03:09):
They just kind of cover some ofthe battles in the uh on the
western front operation cobra,the battle of the bulge and the
river rhine and they just puttheir own story to it.
Nothing really to write homeabout.
It's just kind of that one isjust it's very forgettable.
Black ops 4 came out after thatone that gave us their very
first try at a battle royale, sothey called it blackout.
(01:03:32):
Now, it wasn't perfect.
Uh, you had pub g going on.
I think by this point I'mpretty sure fortnight was out.
So the battle royale is is thenew craze.
We need something.
They tested the waters with it.
It wasn't perfect, but alsowasn't bad.
I would rank them PUBG, thenBlackout, then Fortnite.
I still fucking hate Fortnite.
Yeah, there was actually.
No, there was no campaign.
(01:03:53):
There was no campaign to thatgame, it was only multiplayer
and it was just rinse, repeat.
Black Ops 3.
Like, I'm sorry, the same maps,the same specialists.
Sorry, the same maps, the samespecialists, the same guns.
It was the same everything they.
They put all their money intotheir battle royale and they,
like, forgot to make the rest ofthe game.
So the year after brings us themodern warfare one reboot and
(01:04:14):
war zone.
Uh, the reboot is similar ish tomodern warfare one as to the
point where it's just the gametakes place in the modern day.
Captain Price is getting a teamtogether and you gotta take on
some bad guy so they don't takeover the world.
They're not really reinventingthe wheel with that one.
They just kind of retold thestory from the first one and
(01:04:37):
they added a couple of newgraphics and weapons and they
got a bit more real with it.
The important thing was warzone.
I think war zone is stilldominating, just call of duty.
I think they they outdidthemselves, or I think more
people are playing war zone thanthe actual call of duty itself,
mainly because it's free, butbecause it's a.
(01:04:58):
It's a very simple kind ofgrindy uh battle royale.
So now credit where credit isdue, as much as I hate it the
best, at least if you're looking, statistically speaking, the
best battle royale is stillfortnite.
It's the most popular, it'severyone still plays it.
(01:05:22):
It's still one of the mostpopular games in the world right
now.
It's like that.
Gta are insanely popular yeah,yeah, yeah but call of duties is
a little bit better becauseit's not cartoony like um, like
fortnite, if you can say this.
It's quote-unquote.
More serious, if you will.
Um, not like pubg.
Pubg was always my favorite,but I mean to our listeners come
(01:05:47):
on, if you don't know whatwarzone is, what the fuck's
wrong with you like I'm not evengoing to explain all that much
you're able to kind of test outmore shit in war zone than in
multiplayer and multiplayer inwar zone.
Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
And it's.
It's that game is still runninghard to this day.
They just kind of relaunched itbecause between 2019, when that
game came out, and now, theyhad two, three different maps.
I think they have threedifferent maps for warzone, but
none of them were as popular asthe first one, so they just
(01:06:20):
brought it back and said, hey,we remastered it, when really it
was like you guys don't likeanything else we do, so we'll
just give you what you like,right?
It's just like their playerslike tripled thanks to warzone
and cold war, the one that camethe call did after that one, the
one that came out in 2020.
Um, it's because of those twogames why I made it through
fucking lockdown.
(01:06:40):
It's because of modern warfare,war zone and cold war.
Cold war came out at the end of2020, but still, um, yeah,
modern warfare came out in 20october of 2019.
So lockdown hit in march.
Covid, like the hard lockdownhappened in March.
So thanks to those games, Imade it through lockdown, that
(01:07:01):
and lethal amounts of alcohol onan almost daily basis.
Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Yeah, I mean, that
was everyone the alcohol did
Shout outs to Doug Love you,dmacc.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Yeah, cold War was
just a.
A was just a try.
It was just a rehash of blackops, in my opinion.
Uh, they just told a veryin-depth brainwashing story.
The multiplayer was a lot offun, though I'll give them that
they added a couple new gamemodes to that.
But even that it wasn't reallydifferent.
Vanguard was their last attemptat world war ii and with how
(01:07:37):
bad this one did, they just gaveup.
They just because same thing.
You played as differentcharacters.
They almost tried to make anavengers game with it because
it's like they're differentcharacters of, like different
specialists from different areasof the world.
These next two are essentiallythis.
I'm just going to go ahead andsay they're the same game
(01:07:57):
because of just how quickly theycame out.
They came out within a year ofone another and it was the
continuations of Modern Warfare,so it was Modern Warfare's two
and three of the reboots.
Their campaign got veryconfusing.
They took a page from Black O,black ops 2, but it didn't work
(01:08:19):
as good.
So like you're chasing a weaponsmuggler who has nukes and
somehow he's in mexico and inbed like with the cartels, so
now you're chasing down themexican drug cartels and this
terrorist who's from some madeup country, it's not even a real
(01:08:40):
country that he's from, it'sfrom Urzikstan.
The game ends where it's likeoh, we found so-and-so's buyer.
Oh yeah, blah, blah, blah.
Who is it?
Oh no, and Captain Price getsall pissy and whatnot on the
show and they just name dropMakarov.
Makarov was the main bad guyfrom the original Modern Warfare
2 and 3.
So they just name dropped himto name drop him.
And then in the one that cameout within the year Modern
(01:09:02):
Warfare 3, it's just like hegets busted out of prison and
then he's just causing chaosaround the world.
But you don't see him untillike the last.
It's just, he's just so useless.
And same thing, just thecampaigns.
Those two just fell so flat.
They tried so hard to reinventthe wheel of the original modern
(01:09:23):
warfare's two and three andthey just missed the target
completely, they just threw,there was too many chefs, you
know yeah, it was rough whichthen brings us to black ops 6,
which is the late 80s and early90s Cold War and espionage.
So they touch on some bits hereand there.
I think it's actually kind offun.
(01:09:46):
There's a mission, you're atthe gala for President Clinton
and like there's the Clintonsand shit like that.
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
I I finished that one becauseI'm I'm in the middle of playing
this one yeah, so I'm going totoo much details.
Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
It won't go to do
much details, but same thing
they.
They, like they've done before.
They mention things in history,but they just kind of do what
they want and they just write astory.
That just kind of like it plays.
Well, it's, it's fun to play.
But if you like I you know me,I love a good story it just the
(01:10:24):
story just kind of falls flat.
It's very guessable.
It's very guess.
Like it slaps you in the facelike I guessed it by, like the
second mission, like how it wasgonna end, like how it was gonna
end.
Um, the online's a lot of fun,I'll give them that.
Um, they switch with theprestiging a little bit.
They're doing a lot of events,like they just had like the jane
(01:10:46):
silent bob one that they hadand all the other different fun
little things around theholidays and shit the fun skins
and whatnot.
Uh, there is one I don't knowif it's gonna be.
I think it's gonna be droppingin black ops 7.
Um, I have the inside scoop,the 411, of what the uh the
halloween special is gonna beeach year.
They kind of do like a bighalloween event and it's really
cool.
Um, I have a bit of a 411.
(01:11:08):
I have a bit of a 411 on whatthis year is gonna be and what's
involved, and I'm super excitedabout it.
I can't wait.
It may be the.
It may be the second time I usemy real people money to buy
stuff in the game to make mycharacter look different, but
it's worth every penny, if youask me.
Which then brings us to blackops 7 comes out this october.
They just announced it.
(01:11:28):
What?
Like last week, like not even,I think, over the weekend.
Um, from what we're seeing inthe, what I've seen in the
trailer so far, it looks likewho the hell is the dude who
played rocky sun in rocky balboawhatever that guy he is, that
he's gonna portray david mason,the main character of uh of that
(01:11:52):
game okay uh, looks like we'regetting our zombies back.
Looks, looks like they'reremastering Stuff from Black Ops
2.
And bringing it back.
And this game is going to be adirect continuation Of Black Ops
2.
They've already announced it.
That's pretty much all theinformation that we know.
It's a direct continuation ofBlack Ops 2.
And what the canon ending ofthat game is.
(01:12:14):
So that makes me very excitedbecause, like I said, that was
the last perfect Call of Dutythat they made was Black Ops 2.
So the fact that this one isgoing to pick up right where
that one left off makes me veryexcited.
But hopefully they don't justoverhype it and then just shit
the bed again.
Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Yeah, that's what I
was going to say.
I mean, do you think thatthey'll?
Because they seem to havereally gone downhill.
Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Do you think that
they're going to pull this one
out?
I mean, if you had to be, abetting man, is it going to be a
I'd?
Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
raise, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
So, like I'd raise,
I'm, I'm, I have enough
confidence.
I have about the sameconfidence as I did in the
modern warfare reboot.
And the modern warfare rebootwas amazing.
It, that was the best call ofduty we've had in a long time.
Um, it wasn't perfect.
It definitely had its problems.
It had its issues, its exploits.
So I won't say it was perfect,but it was the best one we've
(01:13:20):
had since black ops 2.
Um, so if they can make thisone just as good as that, that's
a that's.
I'm willing to take that riskyeah, but I'm still not going
all in.
I'm still not going all inbecause this is also the first
one that will be fully developedby microsoft.
(01:13:40):
So black ops when the big mergerhappened, when microsoft
acquired activision okay this isthe first one that microsoft
has pretty much had totalcontrol over, so we'll see.
We'll see how this goes.
I'm very open-minded, so, likeI said, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll
(01:14:01):
be a little frisky.
If I was a betting man, I'd puta little extra in, but, um, I'm
not going all in, I'm not.
I'm not trusting them that muchyet.
They haven't earned that muchtrust from me yet.
I also feel like these gamesare way past their glory days
and no one actually buys thesegames because they like the
games.
I think everybody buys thesegames because they know their
(01:14:23):
friends are going to and, forthe love of christ, stop going
farther into the fucking future.
Like, just stop, just justfucking stop it.
Just fucking stop it.
It Just stay in this century.
You fucking idiots.
Just don't Stay in this century.
Oh God, I get nauseous everytime I'm just thinking about it.
(01:14:46):
And now, if there's one lastlittle bit that I want to say is
, like if there's one like I ragabout these games and I and I
joke and I have my fun, this onesucks, that one sucks, or
whatever, but but still I willsay this to each his own, I'm
sure there's plenty of peopleout there who infinite warfare
it's their favorite game in thewhole world, like it's their red
(01:15:08):
dead too yeah, yeah, I don'tmean anything like that to those
people.
It's everyone's got their ownopinions and it's fine and it's
fun, but it's it's.
It is those little.
If there's one thing that'sgood about these games even the
ones that I don't like like youstill play it because your
friends play it, whatever it'sstill that the important thing
with these games is that um isthose moments with your friends
(01:15:31):
and you're laughing and you'rejoking and you're whatever.
Like I said, you know, likethank god for modern warfare and
war zone.
I I'm telling you it's like notto sound like that guy right
now, but that it was verymonumental for my um, like for
my mental health, and like itreally did help me through um,
through the lockdown.
I was home alone and I couldn'tdo anything like it was, it was
(01:15:54):
rough, it was it was just meand steel.
It was me and steel.
All day, every day.
I couldn't do anything like itwas.
It was rough, it was, it wasjust me and steel.
It was me and steel.
All day, every day.
We couldn't do jack shit.
Nothing but, luckily, me and um, me and one of my closest
friends date and we just I gothim.
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go aheadand say it man, I'm fucking
calling you out on this homie.
Uh, I got him back into gamingduring the lockdown I said I'd
(01:16:15):
say that I break his chops aboutthat.
I didn't really get him back.
I was like, hey, man, let'splay some video games.
And we just did so, like hestill played games, just not to
the level that I did.
I'm telling you.
It was like every day, fromlike 9 am until like 1 or 2 am,
we just played call of duty justall day long.
Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
But these games, man
yeah, I mean it and that's I
mean.
That's just one of the greatthings about gaming is how it I
mean, no matter what game youplay, uh, if you're playing with
you know friends, and it's just, it's just such a fun bonding
experience and there's so manygames where you can just pile in
(01:16:52):
with your friends and just havemoments.
Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
You even got to
experience playing Call of Duty
with me once.
Yes once it was on my birthday.
Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
That was fun.
Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Yeah, we ended up as
usual just shooting the shit
more than playing.
But yeah, it was good.
Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Well, yeah, because
you had a shit-ass connection.
So I was like, yeah, half thetime we were getting our asses
kicked.
We're just shooting the shit inthe lobbies.
Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
But still, yeah,
anyhow, yeah but you know, I
mean, you know, it's just, it'sthere.
There's so many platforms.
How many times have we, youknow, in even recent moments,
like we've had fucking gigglefest, just playing fucking
Minecraft?
Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
You know it's.
Don't get me started onMinecraft.
Don't get me started onMinecraft.
The chickens, them chickens thechickens.
Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
But that's you know.
But that's the great thingabout gaming, you know it.
It just, it's just all abouthaving fun.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
It's like it's just
all about having fun.
Yeah, it's like.
It's just like the force andit's like duct tape.
It's got a light side, it's gota dark side.
It binds the galaxy together.
Man, Video games, duct tape,the force.
Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Yes, the three, the
three most powerful things in
the universe.
Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Well, as one very
ornery, angry British captain
once said, history is written bythe victor.
And well, though these episodesmay not be written by the
victor, they're definitelywritten by a neurodivergent
psychopath with enough caffeinecoursing through his systems to
drop a juggernaut.
So if you like what you heardtoday, or any of this shit that
we got, give us a listen everynow and then.
We may say something that'llsurprise you, but probably not.
Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
And please give us
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It will help us get into thealgorithm and other people will
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Uh, you can find us on allsocial media and stick around.
We've got a lot of thingscoming up in the future.
All right, we're going to wrapthis shit up and say bye go for
(01:19:07):
it.
All right, Bye.
Everybody Say bye Kyle.
Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
Stay frosty.
Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Ooh, that was good.