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September 29, 2025 41 mins

Halloween stirs something primal in us. That magical feeling when October arrives, the crispness in the air, and the permission to indulge in childlike wonder—regardless of our age. This conversation delves into the heart of what makes this season so special, from the seemingly trivial debates about candy hierarchies to the profound joy of experiencing traditions through new eyes.

The great candy debate reveals our passionate opinions about Halloween treats, with Reese's Pumpkins emerging as a universal favorite due to their perfect chocolate-to-peanut butter ratio. Beyond mere preference, we explore the curious phenomenon of why shaped foods—from seasonal pretzels to themed mac and cheese—genuinely seem to taste better than their standard counterparts. We even share a life-changing hot chocolate hack involving melted candy bars that will transform your autumn evenings forever.

There's something beautifully rebellious about defending teenage trick-or-treaters. While some neighborhoods turn away adolescents seeking candy, we stand firmly in opposition to this practice. These young people, teetering between childhood and adulthood, deserve the simple joy of participating in this tradition—provided they honor the ritual by actually saying "trick-or-treat." This seemingly small requirement represents the spirit of reciprocity that makes Halloween special.

Perhaps most touching is the experience of reclaiming Halloween joy as an adult after missing it during childhood. For those raised in households where the holiday wasn't celebrated, witnessing a child's wide-eyed wonder at spooky decorations or their excitement about costumes offers a profound healing experience. The meticulous planning of themed costumes, the willingness to adapt when a child changes their mind seventeen times before October 31st, and the dedication to creating magical moments represents parenting at its most creative and loving.

Join us for this candid, occasionally emotional exploration of Halloween's enduring magic. Whether you're planning elaborate decorations, debating the merits of different candy bars, or simply enjoying the season through a loved one's eyes, there's something universally connecting about this most spooktacular time of year. What Halloween traditions are you creating or continuing this season?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I can ignore a lot yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
But you give me some unhappy curmudgeon.
That's like teenagers, I won'tgive anything, Get bent Go fuck
yourself.
I'm sorry, but a 16,17-year-old knocks on my door

(00:24):
and says trick-or-treat, they'regetting fucking candy.
End of story, Sorry.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I am that stickler, though.
It's just you gotta saytrick-or-treat.
You're doing the thing.
You gotta say trick-or-treat,Like, specifically if you're the
teenager too.
Like if I see the teenagers andI hear you guys like two houses
away and you're laughing,you're joking, you're rowdy, you
have the time of your life.
Hell yeah, you bothmotherfuckers say trick or treat
.
You ain't getting shit, yougotta.

(00:56):
You gotta say trick or treat.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Before we begin today's episode, we would like
to share a quick disclaimer.
The views, opinions andstatements expressed by the
hosts and guests on this podcastare their own personal views
and are provided in their owncapacity.
All content is editorial,opinion-based and intended for
entertainment purposes only.

(01:31):
Listener discretion is advised.
Welcome back to the BlackCurtain Club.
This episode.
We have no agenda, we have noscript, we have no story.
We're just here for anothermidnight musing.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
And I don't have pants.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Funny, I don't have pants either.
I never record with pants on.
That's, that's my ritual Neverrecord with pants on.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Ritual or superstition.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
This is off to a swimming start, but yeah.
So spooky season and I know I'mexcited about it, you're
excited about it.
What's not to love about it?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, joke's on you, it never does it never ends,
right, right.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
So let me ask you this what is your favorite
Halloween candy?

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I have accounts of the Halloween candy.
Just it's candy year round likeokay, okay, your kids are going
trick-or-treating, you'recommandeering their candy bucket
.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
What are you pulling out first?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
what am I hoping they have plenty of in there yeah
okay, I'm hoping that that weirddude lives at the end of the
street because we gotrick-or-treating in the area by
my um, my sister-in-law's.
Oh, the weird dude at the endof the street.
He has those gummy bears thathe had, that he laced with lsd,
like he did last year.
We called him groovy bears ohnice no, that's that's.

(03:20):
that's just, that's asemi-archer quote.
No, no, no, there's not a guywho lives at the end of my
sister-in-law street who handsout LSD to kids.
It's way too expensive.
Who the fuck's just giving itaway Anyhow?
Oh God, that's tough.
The basic bitch answer theReese's pumpkins.

(03:42):
It's got to be the Reese'spumpkins man Reese's pumpkins.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
There's something be the Reese pumpkins.
Ma'am Reese pumpkins.
There's something special abouta Reese pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's, it's the chocolate to peanut butter ratio
.
It goes you don't get the eggand then everything else.
The pumpkin is the best shapefor the Reese cup and then the
egg that you get at Easter time.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, yeah it's.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
It is not the same as a regular reese's cup no, no,
it's because it's becausethere's more peanut butter and
so the different consistencies,the different oils, the
different everything else justkind of mixes with it all.
So it is still reese's peanutbutter and chocolate, but
because there's more peanutbutter, the actual like stuff
mixes everything, but there'sall it's.

(04:24):
The actual like stuff mixeseverything, but there's all.
It's all sorts of science stuff, mainly just because I am
pretty sure I was misdiagnosedwith ADHD and I'm pretty sure I
am autistic, you're.
you're getting way too too intouh yeah, I'm pretty sure I am
autistic, but just saying, man,I get the one where I get like
crippling hyper focused and haveto learn everything about one

(04:48):
specific thing forever hey, aslong as it's not trains, you're
good it ain't trains.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Different types of trains but I digress, I was
gonna say phrasing.
As soon as I said the word, Iwas like oh, that was the wrong
word to say.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh shit, here we go but no, it's just, yeah, okay.
So, besides that basic bitchanswer of the Reese pumpkin, the
little bag of pretzels, theOots pretzels that are shaped
like bats and jack-o'-lanternsand shit.
I fucking love those.
Yeah, bag of pretzels the ootspretzels that are shaped like

(05:26):
bats and jack-o'-lanterns andshit.
I fucking love those some forsome reason.
For some reason, I think thatI'm gonna start my own
conspiracy here for a second.
I don't care, where's myfucking hat?
Where's my hat?

Speaker 2 (05:36):
tinfoil hat.
Where's my hat?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
anyhow, here's my conspiracy that the people who
make the shapes of them pretzelsare the same people that make
the shapes of Kraft Mac andcheese, specifically the
SpongeBob ones, because get abag of, is it Oots?
The U-T-Z Oots.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Where's mine?

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I say Oots, oots, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Get a bag of those pretzels and taste them and they
taste mighty delicious becausethey're a pretzel.
And then you get a bag of theirHalloween shaped ones and the
shaped ones taste so muchfucking better.
It's the same thing with bluebox mac and cheese Craft mac and
cheese.
You eat regular mac and cheese.
It tastes absolutely delicious.

(06:25):
It's a goddamn thing.
With blue box mac and cheeseCraft mac and cheese you eat
regular mac and cheese.
It tastes absolutely delicious.
It's a goddamn delicacy.
Have one of the shaped onesCars, mickey Mouse, paw Patrol,
the SpongeBob ones Shaped macand cheese tastes so much better
than regular mac and cheese.
I don't know what it is, butthey're fucking fantastic.
Don't know what it is, butthey're fucking fantastic.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
You need to get a scientist involved in this
conversation.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Nope, just get a wildly over-medicated and
underestimated or is it?
Under-medicated andover-estimated.
Under-medicated, over-estimatedschmuck from the mitten state.
That's all the science you needthere, baby.
Yeah, how about you are youlooking for in that bag?

Speaker 2 (07:09):
If we're going for savory, then I like the cheese
balls.
They're usually the cheeseballs.
Yeah, if I'm going for sweet,this is a very basic bitch
answer.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
I have two.
I said the Reese pumpkin.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I like a good Milky Way oh, yeah, milky Way and I'm
a Three Musketeers fan.
I always get excited aboutThree Musketeers.
Yeah, lauren's the same.
Yeah, Lauren loves ThreeMusketeers fan.
I always get excited aboutThree Musketeers.
Yeah, lauren's the same, yeah,lauren loves Three Musketeers.
Yeah, I get really excitedabout that, and probably the

(07:53):
little packs of Twizzlers.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
I can't stand Twizzlers man.
I hate licorice.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh, I can't stand, but I do enjoy a Twizzler from
time to time.
Yeah, I can't stand licorice.
Oh I can't stand, but I doenjoy a Twizzler from time to
time.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, I just can't get on board with it.
Man Just can't get on boardwith Twizzlers.
Yeah, I'm not so much.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I don't enjoy Snickers, but fuck me.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I fucking love Snickers.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Milky Way is like peak.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
All right, all right, all right.
I'm going to give you anotherlittle bone whip to have fun
with here, ready.
Okay, yeah, I'm going to giveyou your first food.
Hear me out, aka, you're goingto get turned on by a cup of hot
chocolate.
Now, do yourself a favor.
You got a way to steam up somemilk or get some hot milk in

(08:45):
your life.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Okay, not those little baby, little square candy
bars.
You know, that's the actual funsize where it's like two of
those squares put together, likethe actual decent size one.
It doesn't come in a littlegold wrapper like the actual
right.
You get like two of themfuckers, two, maybe three of
those Milky Ways.
You put them in a mug, then youput some hot ass steamed milk

(09:08):
in there and you stir that shitup and you turn into like a
milky way, hot chocolate, fuckme up thing.
You give yourself a fuckinggallon enema of that shit oh wow
, it's delicious.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
I'm gonna have to try that.
Try that.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Oh, it's so good, it's so good.
I stole that idea from, is itLindor?
Is that the truffles, thereally fucking expensive ball
candy?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Oh yeah, that's delicious, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Lindor right oh.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Lindor yeah, lindor, yeah, the little truffles.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
They're delicious, don't get me wrong, but it's
chocolate.
Calm the fuck down.
They have an outlet at ouroutlet mall here.
There was one really cute,hallmark-y kind of Christmas
shopping day we were doing.
We all went as a family me,lauren, her parents, it was
before we had kids.
We're going around and nothingsays Christmas shopping in like

(10:05):
a homework movie.
So I was like, fuck, you wereall supposed to have hot
chocolate, right, so they got it.
I was like, oh shit, they gothot chocolate, let's go get some
.
And so I go over to the counterand say, oh, you got hot
chocolate.
She goes like you know what size?
I was like, oh, give me amedium.
And she was like of ourtruffles.

(10:26):
I was like, excuse me, there'sany of our truffles.
And then I look over and I seethe lady making one and she's
just grabbing.
She, you know, depending onwhat size you get, she's just
unwrapping them, dropping themin there, topping it with milk,
hitting steamer and turningaround.
I was like, girl, don't tell me, that's what you're about to do
.
She's like, yeah, yeah, I am.
I was like, dude, I don't evencare, fuck me up right now.

(10:47):
Dude, she's like just any youcould pick any up to any like,
whichever size comes with,however many you know like the
smallest like three, the mediumis four and the large is like
five.
You can have any number, itdoesn't have to all be so.
You can have three differentones, four different ones, five
different ones, doesn't matter Iwas like dude don't fucking do
that to me oh wow, I've neverthought it.

(11:07):
Yeah, wow yep, you just get themilk, get it nice and hot, so it
melts the chocolate down, so onand so forth.
Yep, so yeah, I did that withuh, I don't know what milky it's
.
I'm pretty sure it'd be prettygood.
I think I've only done it withmilky way and, like hershey and
a couple of stuff, you can't doit with it with Snickers,
because it's got the fuckingpeanuts in it.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
But yeah, dude, do it with a Milky Way Hell yeah,
yeah, I'm going to the store.
Right now, kroger's is stillopen, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
I'm really thinking hard about that right now.
I'm thinking, thinking hardabout that right now what's the
one?
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
No, no, you go ahead.
You got a question Go.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
No, I was thinking about what's the one with the
hazelnuts, with the cream center, what is that called?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
The Ferrero Rocher.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, the hazelnut in the middle with the chocolate
in the middle.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, because then they're coated in the crushed
nuts.
The hazelnut kind of gets inthere.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Something that's got to be smooth.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
They can't really have something to it.
Something that can Don't get mewrong.
Ferrero Rocher is a fuckingtoad, jesus Christ.
They're delicious also.
There's very few to itsomething that can don't get me
wrong.
Ferrero shares are fucking dude, jesus christ yeah they're
delicious.
Also, there's very fewchocolates, I don't you know.
There's very few sharks that Idon't like, um, but um, yes,
that's always, I guess, kind ofpeddling back, because I'm the

(12:40):
same, I'm kind of the same wayat the movies, because you have
to go.
What are you hoping for?
This is the bag is like well,like well.
Do I want chocolate, do I wantfruity or do I want savory?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Because it's like that's what I do.
So it's the same thing.
Like when it comes, when I goto the movies, I got to have
popcorn.
There's my savory, no questionsasked.
Do you judge people for givingany types of candies?
Oh, yeah, oh, absolutely.
Like there's a reason whythat's like a trope in, like

(13:09):
kids movies and things like that.
One, like, what fucking familyis giving out the fucking who?
Who the fuck is you to give outthe fucking reasons?
Give out the little fuckingerasers that don't work, the
fucking pencils.
Like who the fuck are you?
Who the fuck are you?
Give me the fucking candy, giveme the fucking candy, like
first of all.
So if you're not giving candy,I'm already judging you.

(13:30):
And then, now that we don'treally go out trick-or-treating,
like you know, like we usuallywe don't we're not going out,
you know, because, like when Iwas a kid man, we were not
trick-or-treating at like five,we were out for like five hours
yeah, yeah, yeah, we were outfor like a while and we walked
all the fuck around town gettingcandy and then we stopped going

(13:52):
trick-or-treating and juststayed home and started handing
out candy and so on and so forth.
I always made sure there'salways a couple of bags that I
make sure I buy Always, always,always, always.
I make sure I buy Always,always, always, always.
When it comes to chocolate, Ihave to get the one they have,
the pack that has the Milky Way,the Snickers, the Three
Musketeer.
It's got Milky Way Snickers,three Musketeer, twix and like

(14:20):
dark Milky Way.
There's one where there's adark chocolate in there.
I want to say it's dark MilkyWay.
So I got to get that, at leastone bag of that.
I got to get the bag that hasthe Hershey's cookies and cream,
the Kit Kat and Rolos.

(14:42):
That's in the other bag.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh fucking Rolos, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I bet your Rolos would be good for the hot
chocolate thing.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Oh my god, that's exactly what I was just thinking
.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
And the guy who played Rolo in Vikings.
He'd be good covered in hotchocolate too.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
But I digress.
Yeah, you make a very validpoint there.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
I do.
Oh, milk Duds, I love um youmake a very valid point there.
I do, I do.
Um, oh, milk duds I love, I dolike a milk dud.
They're too fucking hard.
It's like eating rocks, man,it's like eating pebbles.
So, like they see, I liked milkduds and whoppers.
I liked in like middle schooland high school because they
were very, very aerodynamic, solike I didn't eat in that much,

(15:26):
but I would take them and Iwould yeah, I would throw them.
I throw them like amotherfucker.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I was going to say you'd wing them at somebody.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Oh, absolutely Million percent.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, but a milk dud like those are ones like I can.
I can just like I'm going tosay something and just let it go
, okay.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
You can just like Go ahead.
You just hold it in your mouth.
You just hold it in your mouthand savor it and just suck it
and savor it.
Milk, duds, yeah, milk duds arelike yeah, yeah, milk duds.
But you had a question and whatwas your question?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, milk duds, yeah , milk duds are like yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, milk duds, but you had a question, and what was
your question?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, oh no, that's right Cause this is like kind of
a new experience for me.
So it's like you still like sawpeople like trick or treating
and doing shit.
Right Cause you yourself havenever dressed up.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Right Cause you yourself have never dressed up
right Right.
So you know I was raised aJehovah's witness and so as a
kid um, you know, there's no,there's no holidays, you know no
holidays.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

(16:49):
You know that that could.
That's like a whole otherfucking episode, um.
But so, yeah, like I never gotto experience trick-or-treating,
handing out candy, you know, Ijust was totally like oblivious
to the, to the whole thing, andand I can remember like as a as
a kid, like absolutely lovingeverything about Halloween, but

(17:11):
then, like you'd feel like allthis, you know religious guilt,
even from a small age, like Ishouldn't like that, like I'm
not supposed to like this, but Ihave always, always, been drawn
to Halloween and so, you know,fast forward, you know,
eventually left the cult I'lljust say it as it is, you know.

(17:36):
And so I got to like livevicariously through my daughter
who you know would go trick ortreating, and you know, I got to
experience, I've experiencedlike handing out candy and like
getting into it.
I've I I don't know that like Ihave, uh, I've put on like a, I

(18:01):
think, like a cat onesie, yeah,you know, to hand out and like
and had, like you knowie.
Yeah, you know, to hand out andlike and had, like you know,
like my nose and like you know,whiskers painted, I don't you
know, to hand out candy.
I don't necessarily considerthat like dressing up for
Halloween, yeah no, no, I feelyou.
So it was, it was it's.

(18:23):
It's been really nice likeletting her experience that and

(18:44):
get to a loop around theneighborhood and like literally
come back with a pillowcase fullof candy, like yeah you go
trick-or-treating in thisneighborhood.
Like you don't take a bag, youtake a pillowcase and trust me,
it gets yeah, um, but yeah, yeah, it's, it's.

(19:06):
I just, I just love Halloween.
I love that she has gotten toexperience Halloween.
But I will say, though, acouple years ago, I, instead of
like I had, I had a bowl ofcandy, and I didn't I didn't not
, not you know hand out candy,but I bought like a lot of like.

(19:30):
It was like glow rings and butthey were like flat.
you know like you pull thelittle tab and they flash and
like necklaces and headbands andyou know, just like a bunch of
it.
And I gave kids a choice and itwas so funny because the older

(19:54):
kids always they wanted thelight up stuff.
I thought that little kidswould want the light up stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
How long did the little kids want candy.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
The little kids wanted the candy and the older
kids like the teenagers.
I absolutely fucking love it.
I love it.
When a teenager comes to mydoor trick-or-treating, I will
never, never turn anybody away.

(20:23):
A fucking adult could come andyeah and ring my doorbell and
ask for candy, and I would giveit to them yeah but I love.
I love it when teenagers gotrick-or-treating, because to me
, like it's, you're not growingup too fast, you're, you're

(20:44):
doing a kid stuff because youare still a kid, you know, like
yeah there's just something solike pure about that and and I
guess I mean like you're talkingabout getting heated over
something I get so heated thatlike I can ignore politics, I
can ignore a lot of religiousstuff I can ignore a lot yeah

(21:08):
but?
But you give me a.
You know some unhappycurmudgeon.
That's like you know teenagers.
You know I won't give anything,get bent go fuck yourself.
I'm sorry, but a 16 17 year oldknocks on my door and says

(21:30):
trick or treat, they're gettingfucking candy.
End of story, sorry I am.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I am that, I am that stick, I am that stickler,
though that's just.
Yeah, you gotta say trick ortreat.
You're doing the thing, youjust you gotta say trick or
treat like it's specifically.
If you just you gotta say trickor treat like it's specifically
.
If you're the teenager too,like if I see the teenagers and
I hear you guys like two housesaway and you're laughing, you're
joking, you're right, you havethe time of your life.
Hell yeah, you bothmotherfuckers, say trick or

(21:57):
treat.
You ain't getting shit, yougotta.
You gotta say trick or treat.
If I'm getting fucking dressedup and I'm putting everything
into this that I am and I'mremaining in fucking character
for you all, goddamn night forall 11 seconds you're in front
of me fucking.
Say trick or treat, fucking saytrick or treat.

(22:19):
That's what's fun.
That's what's fun.
That's what's fun is the?
Yeah, it is, it really is.
Just because I remember samething just being the teenager
still doing this and just having, just just having that good
time still with it and so seeingthat still kind of going on.
I think, if there's one, one ofthe one of the small things I
think is absolutely fantastic.

(22:40):
You're talking aboutwithstanding the test of time,
angie.
I swear to god all of the gods,the all the gods of old and the
new, as the old gods and thenew as my witness, all of them
as my witness, every single year.

(23:01):
Since it was a thing in the late90s, there was always at least
one child every year that hasthe ghost face mask that has the
little thing you squeeze andlike bleeds.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Every single year there is one kid and it's always
like a fucking six year old kidthat has that fucking thing on,
and I love it so much.
I love it.
I see it once a year, everysingle year.
There's always one kid, and Ilove it.
I was like you keeping thetradition alive, I love it, but

(23:45):
it's um, I'm gonna do my bestnot to get emotional right now
but no promises um oklahoma.
Yeah, oklahoma, but I'm going to, I'm not gonna, I'm not okay,
I'm not oklahoming the fuckingscreen mask, but it's like we've
talked about it before andwe're talking about now.
We're probably do anotherepisode about it too.
I fucking love halloween.
I've always loved fuckinghollow.
I've always fucking lovedhalloween and, like I said,

(24:07):
still to this day.
Like I said, you know, it'slike I always pick.
I usually set the theme in likejune so I can start planning it
out, so I can do like the, thebackdrop and other props and
what we got to do and if there'scostumes I got to work on.
However it goes, I always setthis around june, so I have more
than enough time for me toprocrastinate it and start it in

(24:29):
october anyway, um, but, uh,you know, we'll do the best that
we can, like I said, and I'll Iwill get into character.
I'm not just dressed up likethese, these characters.
I will do my best to portraythe characters, make it that
little extra fun, littleinteractiveness.
So, like last year we did Alicein Wonderland.

(24:51):
I was the Hatter.
Lauren went as the Tweedlesbecause she was pregnant with
Juniper at the time, so she wasa bit bigger and rounder, like
the Tweedles were in the movie.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Which was adorable, and Luna was the rabbit.
Oh yeah, it was adorable and um, and you know we went, we did
the, we went, we did the.
Uh, you know thetrick-or-treating, whatnot.
And now we're back.
You know we go to just like acouple of blocks around my

(25:24):
sister-in-law's because, like,the kids aren't going around
that far.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
And then we go back and we're handing out candy.
Now I'm not, I'm not wasting,I'm not wasting this outfit.
I'm a fucking psychotic menaceto these little shits.
You know I'm not terrorizingthem and whatnot, but I'm just
like talking to myself, I'mtalking really fast and I'm

(25:51):
quoting it every now and thenI'm asking one of them, um, have
they?
Any idea how a raven is like awriting desk, yeah, and all that
kind of fun stuff.
I'm doing the whole thing withthem because, because I based
off of the uh, the, uh, thejohnny depp hatter, so I'm doing
all sorts of bits and I'mmessing with the kids and with
the parents and that's time inmy fucking life.
It's just that extra fun, thatbit to it, and I thought that
that was always the fun part.
But now, but now like itstarted last year, um, god,

(26:15):
taking luna trick-or-treating isjust like that's the best thing
in the world, because she'sjust like, she's just infatuated
with all the.
There's a couple, there's acouple of houses not too far
from uh, from uh, from mysister-in-law, where they do
like a real big thing.
So, like these guys, they do atheme also, but they but there's
always scary.
They get like the skeletons andand and the zombies and the

(26:37):
monsters and whatever so, andthey'll, and they'll dress them
up like as whatever that.
You know, there's people who dothese crazy displays fantastic
and, um, luna's just staring atthem.
She looks like a kid in a candyshop, you know her face is lit
up like it's christmas.
She's seeing all these thingsand which is funny because she's
all she also is scared by someof them too, like most of them,

(26:59):
she actually is like scared, soshe'll like keep her disc.
So she has these big wide eyesand she's like, oh my god, papa,
look at that one, papa, look atthat one.
But then also she's like keepher, just so.
She has these big wide eyes andshe's like, oh my god, papa,
look at that one, papa, look atthat one.
But then also she's likekeeping her eyes on it and like
keeping her back to it, like, oh, watch out behind you, that she
looks behind she sees anotherone.
So she's just like it's, it'sjust seeing her interact with
all that yeah same thing, justall the movies.

(27:21):
And she wants you know likewe'll watch.
She wants to watch something on, uh, on disney or whatever the
fuck it is right.
So we're scrolling through sometrying to find something and
there's all the that thehalloween specials like year
round on there.
I can't tell you how many timeswe've watched this one, like
disney halloween special andthings and nightmare before
christmas.
Right now she calls you knowjack, she wants to.

(27:41):
She's calling that forchristmas.
She goes to jack, she goes.
I want to watch jack.
Or I want to be boogie andshe'll she'll.
We'll watch that movie, like atleast once a week.
We'll sit down and watch.
We sometimes we'll watch itback to back.
We'll watch it and restart it towatch it again I love it so
much so she loves halloween justas much as I do and it's like,

(28:04):
like I said, I did my best toget like emotional, but it's
like now I get to kind of seewhat I was like um, because like
most of the time it wassupported, but then other times
it was like all right, just kindof just shut the fuck up, let's
go.
But it's like she's literallyliving like her best life that
day.
So like I kind of get to see,you know, I, I, you know I

(28:24):
didn't get to see what Iremember.
I remember what I felt, but Ididn't get to see how I was.
But now I get to, I get, I getboth sides and I get to see what
I was like, cause she's likeman, we, we can't go.
We can't go to Walmart now withher, because we're there.
It's a minimum of like area,right?
right, I haven't taken her tospirit halloween yet oh my god,

(28:48):
oh wow.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
You have to, you have to take her oh yeah yeah, but
that's.
I think that's like that's.
That's one of the great thingsabout being a parent is that you
get to see so many thingsthrough your child's eyes and,

(29:10):
like you, you have this sense ofnostalgia because, like you see
them like really get intosomething that you you felt as a
kid and you but you're seeingit just from this other vantage
point it's, it's, it's such a oh, it's, it's the best thing in

(29:30):
the world that it's it's thoselittle moments like that that
make all the tough things aboutbeing a parent worth it and
halloween is definitely one ofthose

Speaker 1 (29:43):
yeah oh yeah, I, I know that she's probably going
to change her mind another fourto seventeen times this week
alone.
It's fucking thursday to uhwhat she wants to be for
halloween.
And I I just, yeah, I don'tknow.
Whatever she, whatever shewants to be, I don't give a shit

(30:03):
, she's just gonna be what she'sgonna be.
And then, because everyone'ssaying it was like what are you
gonna do?
We start having kids?
It was like I'll say jokingly,like well, then they're gonna
have to fucking deal with it,they're gonna be whatever the
hell we want.
But it was like I have no likeif we set the theme of you know,
pirates, right, so I'm makingright pirate shit, to turn my

(30:23):
sister-in-law's garage into apirate ship or whatever the fuck
it is, so on and so forth.
And um, luna wants to be, or anyof the you know, any of our,
you know, either of ourdaughters want to be the fucking
, I don't give a shit.
Dude.
A dinosaur, okay, cool,dinosaur pirates.
No, I want to be a ballerinapirate.

(30:44):
Okay, then you're a ballerinapirate, like, let's go for it
because, like she's going back,I was getting really excited
because for the longest time,for the longest time, she was
saying she wanted to be a cowboy.
So I was like that's perfect Iwas like that's perfect because
I also want to be a cowboy, sothat's the thing that the adults

(31:09):
will be doing, mainly because Igot a pretty not to pat myself
on the back.
I got a pretty good cowboyoutfit you do, I will be wearing
that.
I'll be wearing that.
I've just I've just beenlooking for a reason, and I told
my wife he goes.
So so how you feel about likewesterns, cowboys, whatever, so
on and so forth?
She goes.
I mean sure, yeah, whatever.

(31:30):
I was like listen, if I'm beinghonest, I'm looking.
I'm just looking for an excuseto wear my arthur costume a
little bit more, but if I'mbeing completely honest, I'm
just looking for any type ofreason to make you look like
sadie adler and give me this,please.
Thank you, yeah.
What makes it even better,though, is, you know, her

(31:50):
obsession with dinosaurs, right?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
yes, yes, so at Walmart they have three.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
They have a regular horse, they have like a pink
unicorn kind of thing that youride on, and they have a T-Rex,
one of the little like hobbyhorse.
I was like, oh my god, I waslike we're doing it.
It was like she'll be a littlecowboy, I'll, I'll run the best,
or I yeah, I'll make her thelittle vest and, honestly,
because she because, believe itor not, she's still quote

(32:17):
unquote relatively small.
She's three years old and she'slike four and a half feet tall.
Um, yeah, she's so fucking tall.
Um, I, I definitely have enoughleather to make her like, um,
chaps, like I'll make herfucking chaps and everything
I'll do, I'll do the whole thing.
I don't, I don't care, I'll dothe whole fucking thing, but, um

(32:37):
, I am, I am so set to do like awestern type of this, any other
thing anywho um, but then it'slike last week she's like I want
to be a ballerina.
I was like a cowboy ballerina.
No, I don't want to be a cowboy, I want to be a ballerina.
I was like, okay, papa's goingto be a cowboy, yeah, papa, be a
cowboy, I'm going to be aballerina.
And it was like the day aftershe said she wanted to be a

(32:59):
witch, and so it's like we justgot to like, we just got to like
wait.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah, you can.
You can.
You'll be able to redirect herbetween now and then to back to
cowboy.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I'm going to be completely honest.
I'm going to do my best to dothat one, but I'm also just
going to make all of thecostumes, just to be safe.
I'm going to make her a cowboycostume and make her a ballerina
costume.
We'll make sure we have a witchset for I.
To make her a cowboy costume.
I'm going to make her aballerina costume.
We'll make sure we have a witchset for her.
I'll make her.
She's never said she wanted tobe one.
I'm just going to have a robotready just in case, because,

(33:34):
like, she's going to have asleepover at MMA and Bubba's and
Bubba's going to be like, allright, kid, time for you to get
a proper education.
This is called the Terminator.
You know, she's fucking.
She's going to be a goddamnrobot.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Just don't let her see aliens, then she's going to
be, she's going to want to be,the xenomorph.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
I'm going to.
I'm going to wake her up andwe're going to watch aliens
right now.
I would do anything.
I would do anything for her tobe a fucking xenomorph.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Could you imagine a three year, a little
three-year-old, toddling aroundin a xenomorph outfit?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
it would be the cutest thing ever be like the
greatest day of my life, like itgoes in this order the day that
she was born, the day shewanted to be a xenomorph, the
day she became a xenomorph, Ishould say yeah, oh god, I want
to be a xenomorph you just wantto have that fucking extra mouth

(34:31):
thing and then that giantkiller tail that if anyone
pisses you off, you just withthat fucking thing, man yeah,
yeah, I have a list yeah, theacid blood is pretty cool too
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Which, by the way, great series, the a, the alien
series oh yes, still only watchthe first episode it's really
well done, it's so good, it's anew, like I'm trying to think.
So you know like there's awhole timeline, you know like

(35:05):
they've carved out this wholetimeline, so this definitely
fits.
I think it's before it'sbetween Between alien and aliens
, this series.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I thought this was even I thought this was even
before alien.
I thought this was closer toour timeline, like closer to us
right now Than alien, I thought.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I could be completely wrong, maybe.
Maybe it's somewhere in thatand it's you know.
Yeah, it's somewhere in that.
Um the xenomorph, you know itmay be after like covenant okay
because it it does not.
It has not evolved to the pointof what it looks like in Aliens

(35:52):
.
It's still very much like the.
It's still very much almostlike a humanoid xenomorph.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Okay, so it's a bit more.
Is it more upright or is itstill like crawling around?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
well, it curls around , but it's more upright, it's
kind of like it, it's oh it's sobadass looking so good gotcha
but yeah, there's, and there,like, there's this whole plot
with like.
So this is like the beginningof the, the, the androids, you

(36:33):
know, and it's how they're.
They're experimenting with theandroids.
They're also out, you know,collecting all these alien
species and doing experiments onthem.
It's, it's just it.
It's so good I do recommend,like, watching it all together
nice, yeah, oh, I I found it allright.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yes, you see, you got me on that other episode, I got
you in this episode, so thetimeline goes.
Prometheus alien covenant alienearth.
Prometheus Alien Covenant,alien Earth.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Alien Okay.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
So Alien Earth takes place two years before Alien.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Okay, and then?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
it goes after Alien.
It goes to Alien Romulus, whichwas fantastic.
I love Romulus.
That Aliens, alien 3, and thenthe Fever Dream that doesn't,
doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, the one that you don't talk about that the
movie that shall not be named.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
We have the years, the years.
These go on so prometheus 2093.
Covenant 2104.
Alien earth 2120.
Alien 2122.
Romulus 2142.
Aliens 2179.
Alien 3 2179.

(37:53):
Fever Dream 2381.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Oh my god Wow 202 years.
Yeah, it must have been RomulusI was thinking of, because I
knew there was something betweenalien and aliens yeah, romulus,
which was so good that wasreally good.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
That one was actually that one was that one was a bit
horror, more horror like thansci-fi I feel like every other
episode, we talk about the alienmovies and the xenomorph
specifically it's like everyother episode.
I don't know why I'm like soobsessed with them.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, I'm just so obsessed.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I know I've said it every single time we talk about
it is, and I'll fight two, threewith my dying breath in this
one the xenomorph is the perfectdesign of terror and alien.
Like, if you think of an alien,I think of the xenomorph you

(38:59):
know, people will think of thebig oval heads and green skin
and giant black eyes.
People think of that They'llthink of.
Or the greys they'll think ofhumanoids with grey skin, black
eyes yeah, people think of thatthey'll think of, you know.
Or the grays will think of,they'll think of like humanoids
with, like, gray skin.
No, I think of alien and likeit just in same thing.
You can't think of thisintergalactic apex predator like

(39:22):
you can't beat that fuckingthing, yeah you just can't.
There's no beating them, theyalways are.
They're just.
I fucking love them so much.
Okay, be honest all right, thislast question we gotta wrap
this up is the xenomorph.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
A hear me out no, no, I can say that with confidence.
No, because?
Because actually mostxenomorphs are female yeah,
female, that is correct yeah,but even if the xenomorph you
know was male, no, it's too toovisceral, too scary too fucking

(40:02):
terrifying yeah, yeah, it'syou're a fucking pussy yeah,
yeah, you don't stand a chancewith a xenomorph.
I think if you put the xenomorphup against just about, I mean I
know they had the predator, youknow, take predator out of you
know, because we've seen thosemovies, but like you think of

(40:24):
any of the other, like moviemonsters, I mean xenomorph wins
hands down there there are veryfew that they don't give the
boost to.
There's very few but yeah,pyramid wouldn't stand a chance.
No, rip pyramid head rip.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
yeah, how do you like it, you fucker?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, how do you like being deboned, being dissolved
by acid, all right, take us home.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
It's way past my bedtime.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, yeah, so that's our midnight musing for this
episode.
Thank you so much for listening.
Be sure to like, subscribe.
Follow us on social media.
We are shit posting there everysingle day Almost.
This is our spooky season.
We've got much more planned and, yeah, until next time.

(41:20):
Bye, say bye, kyle.
Game over man.
Game over Game, fucking perfect.
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