August 25, 2025 • 38 mins
The vast, mysterious depths of our oceans have always captivated human imagination—drawing us in while simultaneously terrifying us to our core. When you realize that 75% of our planet is covered in water, yet we've only explored a mere 20% of what lies beneath the surface, the implications become truly unsettling.
From the megalodons—prehistoric sharks potentially larger than blue whales that some believe still patrol the deepest waters—to the striking similarities in sea monster descriptions across ancient civilizations separated by thousands of years, we explore compelling evidence that challenges conventional wisdom about what might lurk below. Why did cultures from Ancient Egypt to Norse Vikings use nearly identical language to describe the Kraken's roar as "the heavens cracking open in the doom of a thousand worlds"? Coincidence seems increasingly unlikely.
The ocean represents humanity's last great frontier—a place of wonder, danger, and endless possibilities. Whether you're fascinated by marine biology, drawn to maritime folklore, or simply enjoy that delicious mixture of terror and amazement that comes from contemplating the unknown, this episode will leave you seeing the deep blue in an entirely new light. Subscribe now and join us as we continue exploring the mysteries that lurk just beneath the surface of our everyday world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A megalodon is.
Take a great white shark andmake it as big, if not bigger
than, a fucking blue whale.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And try to sleep at night.
Try to sleep at night of agreat white shark Bigger than a
blue whale, bigger than a bluewhale.
In fact, imagine a shark largeenough to bite a blue whale in
half, so its bite radius wouldhave to be able to take down a
(00:28):
blue whale.
I mean, just wrap your headaround that fact alone, that's
that's a big goddamn fish, yeahwe're gonna, we're gonna need a
bigger boat.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You're gonna need a fucking battleship.
Okay, bud, to get after one ofthose things.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Before we begin today's episode, we would like
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
Are you ready?
Kids?
All right, that's enough ofthat.
Hey, angie, I got a real quickquestion for you.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
What scares you, keeps you up at night, but also
fascinates you beyond belief.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
The IRS.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
The IRS.
I thought you said the.
I don't know why.
I thought you were going to gothe IRA for a second.
Either way, for me it's theocean, the ocean, the water,
water.
You know where you gotta findnemo, and then you had to find
dory, the movie the abyss, allthat wet stuff, autogunga from
phantom menace.
The ocean, I love it, I'mobsessed with it.
(01:58):
Um, and not to sound like thatguy, to be completely,
completely honest, it fuckingterrifies me.
Welcome back to the BlackCurtain Club.
Our episode today is going tobe about the ocean in all of its
mystical and wonders, andsomeone to kind of hold my hand,
figuratively, metaphorically,quite literally, if I need to
Angie, hey, how are you?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hey, I'm good.
I'm good, I'm so excited overthis topic.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You have no idea.
Good, because I'm going to havenightmares tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, I mean that's not good, but also I'm kind of
here for it too.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Me having nightmares Never mind Whatever, whatever
For anyone who we've lost andnow we've found.
So I grew up in a small townthat had not necessarily the
ocean, but we had the beach thatwent to the ocean.
Long Island sound.
It's not technically the oceanyou got to go all the way around
Long Island Bastards To get tothe actual ocean but it's still
(03:01):
terrifying enough.
Which means is like I'm prettysure I was a fish in a past life
, with my obsession with justthe water and nautical stuff.
Fishing, boating, all that kindof stuff um, still scares the
shit out of me amazing, like theamazing mr limpet um, I don't
(03:22):
know about that, but um do youknow I mean spongebob.
I watched spongebob when I was akid do you know that movie, god
you don't know that movie Iprobably know that movie.
It's an old old movie it's.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's an old don knots movie where he turns into a
fish.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh, that's why, because it's Don Knotts and I
was born in the 1900s, the late1900s well, I was going to say
that movie was from the 1900syeah, I was going to say,
technically all movies were fromat least the 1900s.
True?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
okay, sorry I sidetracked this, go ahead
you're good.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, yeah, because we were off to just such a
crackerjack start as we wereeither way.
The water I love it and itscares me.
That's, I guess that's what I'mgetting at here.
I have compiled a list ofthings that, uh, I guess
interest me, because that'sthat's what interest, right?
(04:22):
It's something that you, whoisn't afraid of the unknown, but
also you, want to learn more.
So I feel that the word I willuse for now on why the ocean
interests me, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Tell me all the interesting things about the
ocean, why it's scary.
I want to know what gets yourbrain working.
That's what I want to know.
I want to know what fear is.
I want to know what gets yourbrain working.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's what I want to know.
I want to know what beer is, Iwant to know what gets my brain
working too, and so do like amyriad of doctors, but I digress
.
I guess number one the factthat it takes up 75% of the
planet.
I don't know exactly how big.
Do you know how big the planetis?
That's not me being a facetiouspain in the ass.
I'm genuinely asking Do youknow?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
No, I know it's big.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's big as shit.
I know that.
Yeah, and 75% of it is water,75% of it is ocean.
Whenever they say that 75% ofthe planet is water, 80% of the
planet is water, 75% of 75 isocean, so only five percent of
it is like lakes and rivers andother shit that is into the
ocean.
75 is ocean.
We as humans have only with ourown punk bitch ass eyes been
(05:35):
able to see and can visuallyconfirm with our own eyes.
Five, 5% add another 15% andthat's all we've ever discovered
or mapped and explored using,like Sarnoff technology, deep
diving technology, sacrificingbillionaires and poorly built
submersive devices.
(05:56):
Rip 20% of 75%.
Hey, math people out therelooking at you, Rain man, what's
the actual area?
I don't know, but I know it'svery, very small.
Yeah, I think we've onlydiscovered or explored less.
We've discovered and exploredmore of space.
(06:19):
We know more about space thanwe know about the ocean.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yes, I've heard that statistic before.
That blows my mind, that blowsyour mind, that makes me
uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Because space doesn't end, it's infinite and it's
growing infinite.
So how do we know more aboutnothing than we know about
something that's on our actualplanet?
Do we actually not know that?
Or are we just saying we don'tknow it and like we really know
everything, like that's where,that's where the lizard people
are, that's where the aliens are, that's all the fun stuff
(06:53):
that's in the goddamn ocean Iwas gonna say that's, that's
gonna drag us down to a lot ofdifferent conspiracies, because
you know is it, is it, do weknow?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And we're just they're.
They're not telling us becauseso much of the ocean is devoted
to aliens or things that we'renot supposed to know about.
But go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Exactly.
No, I mean yeah, exactly.
Which brings me actually tolike reason number.
Fuck it, we'll make it.
Reason number two is the amount, amount of just just mysteries
and weird stuff that's leftunexplained.
So just just shooting from thehip, here you have the bermuda
triangle and bermuda triangles,I'll say, which is kind of funny
(07:35):
, because like they just kind ofnamed all of them bermuda
triangles, even though it'sbermuda is only like one area.
I forget the other actualscientific name for it.
But there's not just onemysterious triangular anomaly on
planet.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Earth.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So each of them actually is, and the fact that
they're all literally connected.
So I forget the three points ofthe Bermuda Triangle, but the
one that's actually on land.
So it's the point that's onmainland.
That is also the standpoint ifyou go into a different
direction.
That connects to another one,that connects to another one,
that connects to another one,that literally goes around the
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earth.
So they're all connected withthe weird ley lines, if you will
.
So there's an insane amount ofjust I'm not using the c word
all that much because, but yeah,we'll just go ahead and say it.
So there's insane amounts ofconspiracies, of what they are,
(08:35):
of what they could be.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well, I was gonna say what do you call the c word?
Because my c word wascompletely different than
conspiracies.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
But go ahead, oh cunt yeah no I say that word a lot
okay so do I, but well, no,because like you throw a
conspiracy on and people justinstantly think of that
beautiful picture of me when wedid our episode about
conspiracies.
Um, but conspiracies kind ofthey get.
(09:06):
They get like a bad rep becauselike, oh, here we go,
conspiracy theories, people,it's, it's just crazy.
People talking nonsense whenreally that it's just someone's
opinion that they feel issupported with facts or
something, or somethingsomething's not adding up and
they feel they have found anexplanation for it.
I'm not sure exactly.
(09:27):
You know where conspiracystarts and science takes over.
So, either way, you have thebermuda triangle.
Triangles um, that's one ofthem ghost ships and the
never-ending amount of them, seamonsters.
Monsters, both real and non,that did exist, that still exist
.
The weird noises.
(09:48):
We talked about this a littlebit, but we had a little debrief
Briefing.
Debrief is afterwards, thelittle briefing before Just
weird, freaking noises thathappen out there.
There's also been reports ofjust strange lights under the
water and actual aliens off ofthe coast of Los angeles.
I believe it is.
I think there's.
There's all sorts of wackystories about catalina.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yes, yes, this, yes, yes.
Fucking catalina alien mixers,exactly fucking catalina wine
mixer, alien style yeah, winemixer with aliens in 80s billy
joel cover bands.
Anyhow, there's um just a sidenote there is since we're
(10:31):
talking about catalina island inuaps there's a really great
documentary um, and I found iton amazon prime, called a tear
in the sky and it was um.
It was an exploration offcatalina Island where a lot of
UFO activity happens, and youknow it's been out for a while.
(10:54):
So, spoiler alert, theyactually filmed a fucking portal
opening up and something comingout of it.
That's nuts fucking portalopening up and something coming
out of it that's not.
It is.
It is a fascinating, but yeah,catalina island, the ocean,
things underneath the ocean,absolutely I'm trying to let you
go, because this is this isgetting my golden retriever
(11:20):
energy up, which never happensbecause I'm a black cat but
every now and then you get thatone specific ear tickle.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And apparently, yes, apparently, I'm scratching the
belly just right, and your leg'sstarting to go.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Exactly, go ahead, no no, no, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I mean and follow up to all those ones like dangers,
everything about like howinsanely dangerous it is.
There's just the animals,there's the creatures.
Creatures is it real or not?
Stories, whatever, the freakingmonsters like that one, so
we'll just go ahead with that.
Like sea monsters.
Everybody knows the Kraken, asthey rightfully should, because
that is the most famous, mostwell-known hashtag Kraken
(12:00):
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Look at you, randy, shout outwhoop, whoop, um, but it is the
most Hashtag.
Kraken Intense Focus, legendarysupplements.
Look at you, randy, shout outWhoop, whoop, but it is the most
Randy.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
That was for free, that was a free promo Randy, oh
shit, anyhow.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I think it is one of the oldest like sea monster
stories was the kraken it's.
I think it's a tie between thekraken and the leviathan,
because the leviathan is broughtup in the old testament in the
yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, itwas of it's a biblical monster
yeah, I know that one and thekraken I'm just gonna say.
But the bible came out afterancient greece and Mesopotamia
and so on and so forth.
So ancient Egypt, rome,mesopotamia and then
(12:54):
Scandinavian texts, ancientScandinavian texts all talk of
the same exact creature and it'sall described the exact same
way.
They just had a different namefor it because it was just their
language.
Of what they called, and then Ithink the one that stuck the
most was the one from norsemythology, because that was the
only one that used um, actually,uh, that was able to be
(13:19):
translated to anglo-saxonenglish, which then became
english english.
Uh, they called the half gufa,half gufa, half half gufa, half
gufer.
I don't know something like thatone, but at that the original
stories was that it was a giant,it was a giant turtle with
tentacles and but same thing,the horrid breath it haunted the
seas.
It did the bidding of like a um, a, uh, like a, like a maritime
(13:46):
demon entity, demonic entity,for whether it's cthulhu, davy
jones, whichever um, whicheverculture you want to, whichever
cultural thread you want to pullon, whichever demonic entity
ruled the sea, it was like theirlittle attack dog, um, but they
all but so.
Some descriptions sea, it waslike their little attack dog,
but they all but so.
Some descriptions of what itlooked like were very similar,
(14:07):
but what it did, how it acted,how it responded, its motives
were always the same and someother things like the giant
tentacles, the horrendous breath, and they all described the
roar being the same exact thingas well to something like the
heavens.
What is it?
The heavens cracking open inthe doom of a thousand worlds,
(14:28):
or something like that.
Everyone every culture saidalmost that exact thing, word
for word Heavens cracking openthousand worlds, doom, blah,
blah, blah.
Which is insane to me, becauseeach of those civilizations were
like a millennia apart from oneanother, and that the fact they
almost, they almost, did thesame thing, wild.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like, yeah, we had it .
And this is like the same thingwith the dragon, you know, we,
we had that conversation Likethere are so many mythological
monsters that all of thesecultures, so many mythological
monsters, that all of thesecultures, you know that that,
like you said, were, werethousands and thousands of years
(15:11):
apart.
Talk about the same thing.
There has to be some truth toit, there has to be it's just.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's wild to me because, like it means they all
saw the same thing, or the samethings, or they experienced the
same things, and they justthey're.
They're just telling you whatthey saw with their, with their
dialect, with their language,with their, however it is, but
the fact that they all were verydifferent languages and very
different expresses, but theyall used essentially the same
(15:40):
exact way to describe the noisethat it made.
And they're all exploringdifferent waters.
I mean you can make theargument that ancient Egypt and
ancient Rome all sailed acrossthe Mediterranean, even the
Aegean, even parts of the Nileand so on, and so forth, but the
parts of the Nile that wereexplained.
(16:02):
So those two cultures cameacross.
I forget which part of Adena,with Mark Antony and Cleopatra
during the end of the EgyptianEmpire and the Egyptian culture.
I'm talking about ancient, I'mtalking pre-pyramids.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
The pyramids were already ancient, were like
ancient history, by the time theroman empire was founded, and
so the fact like says there'slike a thousand years in between
these two cultures and they'redescribing the same freaking
thing about this one monsteryeah nuts.
Then you go all the other sideof europe to the scandinavians.
They're saying the same fuckingthing right insane, absolutely
(16:40):
insane.
Um, I can do an entire episodeon just the kraken, which I plan
on doing, by the way.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So yes, little coming soon at some point or another.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Um, so you had just them.
Uh, I know you're.
Uh, you're pride and joy,you're, uh, you're fun little
earworm here for more bellyscratches.
Get your leg going, themegalalodons.
Ah, yes, I say Megalodonsbecause it's not like the Kraken
.
So the Kraken is depicted aslike a colossal squid, but like
(17:12):
even bigger.
So there is the Kraken.
So, yes, there are colossalsquids, but there is one
specific Kraken.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
There is.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
In my humble opinion, there is not the Megalodon,
there's just Meggalodons.
I think it is a species thatstill exists.
For those you don't know, amegalodon is take great white
shark and make it as big, if notbigger than, a fucking blue
whale, and try to sleep at nighttry to sleep at night of a
great white shark, blue whalebigger than a blue whale.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Bigger than a blue whale, in fact.
Imagine a shark large enough tobite a blue whale in half, so
its bite radius would have to beable to take down a blue whale.
I mean, just wrap your headaround that fact alone that's.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's a big goddamn fish, yeah we're gonna, we're
gonna need a bigger boat.
You're gonna need a fuckingbattleship.
Okay, bud, to get after one ofthose things well, it's god.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, we know that.
We know that large sharksexisted because we have teeth,
you know, I mean you can, youcan get these.
You know teeth that are as bigas two hands put together.
I mean they're, they're massiveteeth.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So we know as a computer monitors freaking teeth
on these things, right it'shuge, that's big, but you will
never convince me.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
With us only exploring, and liberally saying,
20% of the ocean, you cannottell me that it doesn't still
exist.
They're there.
(19:17):
Well, I mean, we have a.
I think it's a Greenland shark,that is, it's the oldest shark,
and if I can't remember howmany, I want to say this shark
is like been around for years,and I will always go back to the
coelacanth.
The coelacanth was somethingthat was supposed to have been
extinct.
It was prehistoric fish, theythought it was gone extinct.
(19:40):
They thought it was gone extinctand then damn if they didn't
catch one off the coast ofMadagascar, however many years
ago.
It's been a while, but you know, madagascar, madagascar,
madagascar.
So, yeah, yeah, the Megalodon,I will die on this hill.
(20:08):
Megalodon, they exist, uh, theyare out there and they are
feeding on blue whales well theyshould, those pretentious
bastards.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
No, I'm a giant fish, but not a fish.
That's humpback, my bad yeah,dory, listen get your fucking
whales.
Right, get your whales, right,but yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Anyone who saw the absolutecinematic masterpieces that were
(20:43):
the Meg movies with JasonStatham.
Those movies are so great.
You can't tell me you're goingto die in the hill, that the
Megalodon is real.
I will die in the hill.
Both those movies are gold.
They're so awesome.
They're so awesome.
You just need a ridiculousmovie like that every now and
then.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And he blessed us with two.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I remember when we first saw it.
Lauren and I watched thosemovies side note, right, so we
it was.
It was like a rainy day,wherever the hell every now and
then we, you know, we domarathons like any normal
functioning people, and so it'slike, fuck, we haven't seen
these movies.
Who doesn't like big, bigmonster, big monster movie?
You know, to quote the wholebig monster.
So we're watching the meg,right, like fuck, yeah, so all
(21:24):
right, let's watch the meg too.
Before we, before moving,started, I paused it.
I was like, listen, when you doa sequel to a movie, this
ridiculous, he goes which tropedo you think they're going with?
Because we talked about whenyou do a sequel of, when you do
a big monster sequel like that,right, you do one of two things
there's either a bigger versionof the monster from the first
(21:48):
one or there is more, and so shewas like okay, so, yeah.
So it was like okay.
So in the first one, you knowwhat the meg was.
I don't remember how big thisis like, let's just say a
thousand feet.
So okay.
So the one in the first one waslike a thousand feet long and
the second one, by hollywood law, it needs to be a minimum of
two thousand feet long or therehas to be two like eleven
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hundred feet long ones, likethey need to be slightly bigger.
What did they do with thesecond one?
They fucking gave us both.
They gave us like four thatwere the size of.
Montana.
They were fucking huge.
And on top of that they gave usdinosaurs and a giant squid.
It was, I think it was.
It wasn't the Kraken, but itwas a gigantic, it was.
(22:37):
It was just a gigantic octopus.
Right, it was one of the mostridiculously awesome movies ever
.
But yes, that movie is.
It is the way it is on purpose.
It's supposed to be ridiculouslike that one, but kind of like
movies like that.
(22:57):
They, they, they pullinspiration from actual um
science theories and whatnot.
I keep forgetting, right, butit's at the bottom of the
marianas trench, where the jet,where, like that cloud was,
where the meg, where the megslived, all the monsters lived.
That's, that's a real thing.
We've discovered this giantcrack at the bottom.
(23:19):
It's not the Marianas Trench,it's the other trench, it's just
as deep as the Marianas.
But, like I said, we used oursonar technologies that we've
gotten our unmanned submersiblevehicles US, whatever the shit's
right to about the top of thatand they blast their little
sonar things down, so we see howdeep that trench is and the
(23:40):
sonar doesn't go far enough toreach the bottom.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
So literally, so like there's just this giant, so
there's a giant hole in thebottom of the ocean that we
don't even we can't see, becausethere is some type of a
disturbance where, like, thelight can't even get that far,
even with the actual sonarlights, we can't fucking see
what's down there, and there'sno end to it.
(24:06):
So you can't tell me that noneof these things exist until we
can explore all of that.
So, that's an actual scientifictheory is that there is some
type of life or something existsdown there.
Yes, so and then?
Yeah, then you get jasonstatham to do something crazy
with a harpoon gun and it'sawesome and you have a great
(24:27):
movie.
But there is actual scientifictheories based in that one.
Yeah, sea, sea monsters, man,yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Sea monsters, yeah, and that's I think, and that's
kind of like I mean, even if youtake and I don't know where
you're going to go next or what?
you have planned to talk about.
But the thing that alwaysstrikes me is like, if you're
okay a person, you take a sixfoot tall person and they're in
(24:58):
the middle of the ocean.
You know they can.
From the surface down is onlysix feet.
What is below you that youcan't see in all directions,
like that is such a scarythought of how much just depth
is below you.
(25:19):
You know it's like you willnever touch the bottom.
If you do, you're dead, youknow it's like standing in.
Yeah, One of my friends one ofmy friends explained it to me.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
He was like, think of it as, think of it as being in
the middle of a field, butupside down, and I was like, huh
, he was thinking about it.
He goes like when you being inthe middle of a field but upside
down, and I was like, huh, hegoes, think about it.
He goes when you're out,exactly that one.
He goes when you're in themiddle of the ocean and you're
just kind of floating there.
It's just your head above thewater right, and he goes you'll
never touch the bottom, there'sinfinite nothingness below you.
He goes yeah, think of it inthe opposite.
(25:53):
So you're standing on theground right and then you look
up to the sky, it goes yeah,there's, you know, there's the
ozone, there's that one, becausethen there's space, there's.
You'll never touch the top,you'll never see the top,
because it just goes forever andever, because it's the same
thing.
And I was like dude, why yougotta say that kind of shit?
because oh man, why you gottasay shit like that man, why you
(26:15):
gotta say shit well that manwell as above, so below oh god,
here we go.
Yeah, it's just, it's insane,it's just.
Oh god, it fascinates me.
I love the water so god damnmuch, but it fucking terrifies
me but, then other notsupernatural and like other kind
(26:37):
of evils, that this is also,this stuff is a billion percent
true.
Um, just the actual naturalreoccurring bullshitty phenomena
that happens so, like thepressure.
I forget the actual conversionto it, but you know freaking
pretty like a, like a, like atin can exactly, I don't know,
(26:58):
but freddie mercury and davidbogart on something under
pressure, yeah, going to thegoddamn water under a lot of
freaking pressure.
It's like you know what's youknow.
We were just saying you knowwhat's below you when you go
there.
You want to know what's notbelow you in some areas, fucking
a person or like a body,because there's so much pressure
it would literally crush youinto nothing.
(27:18):
You would disappear, you wouldcease to exist.
Okay, yeah, we say you crush acan, you crush a beer can, or
that's just the pressure you cando.
And then there's those videosthat I don't know why I'm so
obsessed with them.
There's some of my favoritevideos in the world, like
hydraulic presses, and then theyjust like crush the shit.
Have you seen the ones wherethey put like the cans, like in
the other, like there's reallythick, like um, and they'll put
like the stacks of whatever thefuck, like cds or whatever?
(27:40):
The cds will just explodebecause there's nothing to keep
them confined.
Then there's the ones wherethey have like that big cylinder
and they, you know, they'll putlike, uh, like squishy balls or
bouncy balls in, right you?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
see, yeah, yeah, yeah , crans, they just come shooting
out of the sides.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Have you ever seen when they do that with like a?
You ever seen the ones wherethey do it with like a solid
object?
They they've.
I've seen ones where they takelike a like a soda can, like a
can of Coke, and then they crushit Right.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
The pressure is so intense that it forces it
liquefies the metal to come outthe sides of the holes, so like
it's pressing down so hard onthat can that it is.
You know, when you presssomething down, it generates
heat because the molecules aregetting so close, close one
another chemistry, one-on-onekids and physics and pretty much
(28:23):
all science right now.
So the pressure so much, itjust created so much heat.
It liquefies the can and itspreads and comes shooting out
the sides.
Now if those sides were pluggedup, it would just keep pushing
pressure and pressure andpressure and pressure and
pressure that it would literallydissolve into nothing.
It would completely burn up anddisintegrate.
That's what happens to yourfucking body in the ocean.
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It just keeps going, going,going, going and you just keep
crumpling, crumple, crumple,crumple until you're nothing and
then you literally are justgone from existence because you
can't get any smaller, you justvanish.
Terrifying well, terrifying wellit's like the.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
The reenactments are like the, like the.
It's like a digital renderingof what happened to the people
in the sub, and like the onethat fascinated me the most is
it was talking about showing youthe speed of your, your pain
response.
They imploded faster than thepain response, which means to
(29:27):
say is that they were crushedinto, liquefied into oblivion
before they even felt beforethey felt it Exactly, which is
kind of a relief because itmeans they didn't feel anything.
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
They went from something to nothing faster than
the brain could comprehend.
They were in pain.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yes To all of our beloved listeners.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Google, google right now.
How fast that is.
That scares me even more.
It's just how quick, howrapidly that is.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
And that's like that's the power of the ocean.
That is scary as fuck.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's the power of Ponsol baby.
I'm just picturing that ladylike showing that one and you go
.
That's the power of pressurebaby.
She just got like a littlevideo that you'd watch in like
science class Just dying.
Oh man, I mean that's the powerof pressure baby.
She just got like a littlevideo that you'd watch like
science classes just just dying.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Oh man, I mean that's , it's just terrifying, it's
absolutely terrifying, but socool it is, it is, it is so cool
, but yeah, because water,because water, oh my goodness oh
yeah, and then the hydrothermalstacks, which is just like,
essentially like holes, like inthe cross and giant fucking
(30:54):
bellows of black smoke.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It looks like anything you've ever seen about,
like pittsburgh or like londonfrom like the 1800s ever
watching like the, like a movie,or like nicholas nickleby or
like oliver twist, like thegiant smoke stacks yeah, it
looks like that's pouring out ofthe bottom of the ocean.
Fun fact that smoke, the blacksmoke that's just pissing out of
that fissure, will liquefy youin seconds, cause it is over 700
(31:19):
something degrees, exceptbetween 700 and 800 degrees is
the middle of those giantsmokestacks just pouring out
into the ocean.
Um, yeah, that's all fun andterrifying.
Rogue waves, yep, asshole wavesabout the size, almost size, of
a tsunami.
Ever seen those awesome videoswhere it's like a ship or where
(31:39):
they'll play like hoist thecolors, with that dude like a
really deep voice, you know,they'll just show up a ship,
that's just goes almost likenose down and the water just
like and they're, the cameramanactually like leans back and you
see water coming over you.
That's a rogue wave.
They're so true.
(32:00):
One of my friends served in themilitary and he had to.
He was what's it called.
He was, um, he was on, uh, hewas on a ship.
You know, hitched a ride withthe navy yeah to one of his
deployments.
And yeah, rogue waves areabsolutely a thing.
There's out there and there'sall sorts of like alarms that go
off like brace for this, bracefor that everyone.
This lockdown, this locked onthat, yeah, it can throw a
(32:21):
fucking aircraft carrier like abath toy oh yeah, google an
aircraft carrier.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Google an aircraft carrier Google, an aircraft
carrier.
That's so scary.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, he was on the George H.
Look how big the George H WBush aircraft carrier is.
That thing was thrown like afucking bat.
It was hit like a bath toy.
And displaced X amount ofdegrees, off course, because it
got hit by a fucking rogue wave.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Wow yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Lots of fun.
Then I guess my little last bithere too is for all my destiny
friends, if you pick up on thislittle joke, you want to know
what's the fun about it.
Ocean's haunted, it's haunted.
There's ghosts, all sorts ofevil, evil, spooky entities out
there.
Obviously, everybody knows themost beloved one, arguably the
(33:16):
peak of cgi eat your heart outjames cameron and the fucking
titanic.
Arguably the peak of cgi waswhen disney and jerry
bruckheimer gave us davy jones.
So there's some truths behindhis story.
So the story in the tale ofDavy Jones, that's probably
going to be another episode thatI want to do too.
Yes yeah, there's so manydifferent depictions where Davy
(33:39):
Jones was just an actual, so theactual story about he was just
in love with the sea and he wasin love with this woman, so that
little bit about the DavyJonesones with disney was true.
Um, he chose that he was inlove with a witch and chose that
one.
He was cursed and whateverthat's like.
The most factual quote-unquotestory is that he was just a
sailor who loved a witch, but heloved the sea more and he was
(34:02):
cursed yeah and he didn't becomewhatever the hell.
And davy Jones Locker.
So that kind of fun stuffthere's, I think there's besides
the Pirates of the Caribbeanmovies, I think there's only one
other account of Davy Jonesactually being the captain of
the Flying Dutchman, but otherthan that, the bulk of the
stories of those two.
They have nothing to do withone another.
Davy Jones Locker is somethingelse.
(34:24):
And now the story of the, thestory of the flying dutchman
being the ghost that ferries thesouls who have died at sea to
the afterlife, is true.
That one's true.
It's just davy jones wasn't thecaptain of it.
The flying dutchman is the ghostferryman, almost like karan um
(34:46):
you know, there's the souls tothe afterlife and shit Supposed
to be an omen for disaster, orlike the Grim Reaper or Mothman,
if you will.
There's been plenty of accountsof seeing the Flying Dutchman
in some type of terror.
There was plenty of eyewitnessreports.
There was reports right beforethe Titanic went down that
(35:07):
plenty of the people on board,including crew members, reported
seeing a ghostly Dutch galleontailing them.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Oh, wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
The Lithuania also had reports of a Dutch galleon,
what you call it, off itsstarboard.
That was where the Lithuanianwas on the starboard side and
then on the port side was whereit was off the port stern, where
they reported seeing it, andthat's where it hit the iceberg.
(35:40):
So it's all towards that areawhere there's a lot of reports
of seeing it before some type ofbig nautical disaster happens.
And then there's things likethe Mary Celeste, the Octavius
just so many many ghost storiesand ghost ships that still haunt
the seven seas.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I love the concept of ghost ships.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I also think the highly underrated early 2000s
horror film Ghost Ship has thegreatest fucking opening scene.
The only other opening scenethat rivals its iconicness and
how fucking awesome it is isBlade.
Blade has the greatest openingscene in any movie I've ever
(36:21):
seen in my entire goddamn life.
Nothing will ever beat thatNothing.
Period, Do not at me, I willfucking fight you.
No other movie, the only onethat comes close is Period, do
not at me, I will fucking fightyou.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
No other movie the only one that comes close is
Ghost Ship.
It was so awesome.
Yeah, that was.
Oh, I really liked that movie.
I feel like an underrated moviethat a lot of people don't talk
about.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That was a good movie , it was scary, so underrated
because it was right towards theturn of it out, any horror
movie that came out betweenScream and Saw just kind of fell
to the wayside just kind offelt, because those two were so
massively iconic and theyfucking flipped the horror genre
on their head.
Anything in the middle thatwasn't Scream just got
(37:01):
completely lost.
And then Saw came out andflipped everything on its head
and then after that, if itwasn't Saw, no one gave a shit.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I digress and we know that, the Flying Dutchman and
Davy Jones we know all of thatis true because they've all
appeared on SpongeBob.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
That is also true, that is very true.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Well, no, because the Whatcha Call it wasn't a ship.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
The actual ghost was the flying dutchman.
He was the flying dutchman I'mnot.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I'm not flying dutchman yeah, and you know I
I've seen it, I've seen it formy own eyes on spongebob, so it
is absolutely real exactly inthe first spongebob halloween
episode was where it gave us theintroduction to Davy Jones and
it's Spongebob and a fuckingHalloween episode.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh my God, anywho, right.
So now that we've talked aboutall the fun fancy freeways,
that's totally safe and notterrifying about the ocean who
wants to go to the beach?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
The beach is fine.
I'm not going in the ocean.
Well, with that, thank you forlistening to another episode of
the black curtain club.
Again, if you are enjoying this, tell a friend, spread the word
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So give us a rating and a like,find us on social media and
(38:26):
we're going to bring moreweirdness next week.
So that's it, bye.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Drink up me hearties, Yo ho.
A megalodon is.
Take a great white shark andmake it as big, if not bigger
than, a fucking blue whale.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And try to sleep at night.
Try to sleep at night of agreat white shark Bigger than a
blue whale, bigger than a bluewhale.
In fact, imagine a shark largeenough to bite a blue whale in
half, so its bite radius wouldhave to be able to take down a
(00:28):
blue whale.
I mean, just wrap your headaround that fact alone, that's
that's a big goddamn fish, yeahwe're gonna, we're gonna need a
bigger boat.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You're gonna need a fucking battleship.
Okay, bud, to get after one ofthose things.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
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Speaker 1 (01:22):
Are you ready?
Kids?
All right, that's enough ofthat.
Hey, angie, I got a real quickquestion for you.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
What scares you, keeps you up at night, but also
fascinates you beyond belief.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
The IRS.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
The IRS.
I thought you said the.
I don't know why.
I thought you were going to gothe IRA for a second.
Either way, for me it's theocean, the ocean, the water,
water.
You know where you gotta findnemo, and then you had to find
dory, the movie the abyss, allthat wet stuff, autogunga from
phantom menace.
The ocean, I love it, I'mobsessed with it.
(01:58):
Um, and not to sound like thatguy, to be completely,
completely honest, it fuckingterrifies me.
Welcome back to the BlackCurtain Club.
Our episode today is going tobe about the ocean in all of its
mystical and wonders, andsomeone to kind of hold my hand,
figuratively, metaphorically,quite literally, if I need to
Angie, hey, how are you?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Hey, I'm good.
I'm good, I'm so excited overthis topic.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
You have no idea.
Good, because I'm going to havenightmares tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, I mean that's not good, but also I'm kind of
here for it too.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Me having nightmares Never mind Whatever, whatever
For anyone who we've lost andnow we've found.
So I grew up in a small townthat had not necessarily the
ocean, but we had the beach thatwent to the ocean.
Long Island sound.
It's not technically the oceanyou got to go all the way around
Long Island Bastards To get tothe actual ocean but it's still
(03:01):
terrifying enough.
Which means is like I'm prettysure I was a fish in a past life
, with my obsession with justthe water and nautical stuff.
Fishing, boating, all that kindof stuff um, still scares the
shit out of me amazing, like theamazing mr limpet um, I don't
(03:22):
know about that, but um do youknow I mean spongebob.
I watched spongebob when I was akid do you know that movie, god
you don't know that movie Iprobably know that movie.
It's an old old movie it's.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It's an old don knots movie where he turns into a
fish.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh, that's why, because it's Don Knotts and I
was born in the 1900s, the late1900s well, I was going to say
that movie was from the 1900syeah, I was going to say,
technically all movies were fromat least the 1900s.
True?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
okay, sorry I sidetracked this, go ahead
you're good.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, yeah, because we were off to just such a
crackerjack start as we wereeither way.
The water I love it and itscares me.
That's, I guess that's what I'mgetting at here.
I have compiled a list ofthings that, uh, I guess
interest me, because that'sthat's what interest, right?
(04:22):
It's something that you, whoisn't afraid of the unknown, but
also you, want to learn more.
So I feel that the word I willuse for now on why the ocean
interests me, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Tell me all the interesting things about the
ocean, why it's scary.
I want to know what gets yourbrain working.
That's what I want to know.
I want to know what fear is.
I want to know what gets yourbrain working.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
That's what I want to know.
I want to know what beer is, Iwant to know what gets my brain
working too, and so do like amyriad of doctors, but I digress
.
I guess number one the factthat it takes up 75% of the
planet.
I don't know exactly how big.
Do you know how big the planetis?
That's not me being a facetiouspain in the ass.
I'm genuinely asking Do youknow?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
No, I know it's big.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
It's big as shit.
I know that.
Yeah, and 75% of it is water,75% of it is ocean.
Whenever they say that 75% ofthe planet is water, 80% of the
planet is water, 75% of 75 isocean, so only five percent of
it is like lakes and rivers andother shit that is into the
ocean.
75 is ocean.
We as humans have only with ourown punk bitch ass eyes been
(05:35):
able to see and can visuallyconfirm with our own eyes.
Five, 5% add another 15% andthat's all we've ever discovered
or mapped and explored using,like Sarnoff technology, deep
diving technology, sacrificingbillionaires and poorly built
submersive devices.
(05:56):
Rip 20% of 75%.
Hey, math people out therelooking at you, Rain man, what's
the actual area?
I don't know, but I know it'svery, very small.
Yeah, I think we've onlydiscovered or explored less.
We've discovered and exploredmore of space.
(06:19):
We know more about space thanwe know about the ocean.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yes, I've heard that statistic before.
That blows my mind, that blowsyour mind, that makes me
uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Because space doesn't end, it's infinite and it's
growing infinite.
So how do we know more aboutnothing than we know about
something that's on our actualplanet?
Do we actually not know that?
Or are we just saying we don'tknow it and like we really know
everything, like that's where,that's where the lizard people
are, that's where the aliens are, that's all the fun stuff
(06:53):
that's in the goddamn ocean Iwas gonna say that's, that's
gonna drag us down to a lot ofdifferent conspiracies, because
you know is it, is it, do weknow?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
And we're just they're.
They're not telling us becauseso much of the ocean is devoted
to aliens or things that we'renot supposed to know about.
But go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Exactly.
No, I mean yeah, exactly.
Which brings me actually tolike reason number.
Fuck it, we'll make it.
Reason number two is the amount, amount of just just mysteries
and weird stuff that's leftunexplained.
So just just shooting from thehip, here you have the bermuda
triangle and bermuda triangles,I'll say, which is kind of funny
(07:35):
, because like they just kind ofnamed all of them bermuda
triangles, even though it'sbermuda is only like one area.
I forget the other actualscientific name for it.
But there's not just onemysterious triangular anomaly on
planet.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Earth.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So each of them actually is, and the fact that
they're all literally connected.
So I forget the three points ofthe Bermuda Triangle, but the
one that's actually on land.
So it's the point that's onmainland.
That is also the standpoint ifyou go into a different
direction.
That connects to another one,that connects to another one,
that connects to another one,that literally goes around the
(08:13):
earth.
So they're all connected withthe weird ley lines, if you will
.
So there's an insane amount ofjust I'm not using the c word
all that much because, but yeah,we'll just go ahead and say it.
So there's insane amounts ofconspiracies, of what they are,
(08:35):
of what they could be.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Well, I was gonna say what do you call the c word?
Because my c word wascompletely different than
conspiracies.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
But go ahead, oh cunt yeah no I say that word a lot
okay so do I, but well, no,because like you throw a
conspiracy on and people justinstantly think of that
beautiful picture of me when wedid our episode about
conspiracies.
Um, but conspiracies kind ofthey get.
(09:06):
They get like a bad rep becauselike, oh, here we go,
conspiracy theories, people,it's, it's just crazy.
People talking nonsense whenreally that it's just someone's
opinion that they feel issupported with facts or
something, or somethingsomething's not adding up and
they feel they have found anexplanation for it.
I'm not sure exactly.
(09:27):
You know where conspiracystarts and science takes over.
So, either way, you have thebermuda triangle.
Triangles um, that's one ofthem ghost ships and the
never-ending amount of them, seamonsters.
Monsters, both real and non,that did exist, that still exist
.
The weird noises.
(09:48):
We talked about this a littlebit, but we had a little debrief
Briefing.
Debrief is afterwards, thelittle briefing before Just
weird, freaking noises thathappen out there.
There's also been reports ofjust strange lights under the
water and actual aliens off ofthe coast of Los angeles.
I believe it is.
I think there's.
There's all sorts of wackystories about catalina.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yes, yes, this, yes, yes.
Fucking catalina alien mixers,exactly fucking catalina wine
mixer, alien style yeah, winemixer with aliens in 80s billy
joel cover bands.
Anyhow, there's um just a sidenote there is since we're
(10:31):
talking about catalina island inuaps there's a really great
documentary um, and I found iton amazon prime, called a tear
in the sky and it was um.
It was an exploration offcatalina Island where a lot of
UFO activity happens, and youknow it's been out for a while.
(10:54):
So, spoiler alert, theyactually filmed a fucking portal
opening up and something comingout of it.
That's nuts fucking portalopening up and something coming
out of it that's not.
It is.
It is a fascinating, but yeah,catalina island, the ocean,
things underneath the ocean,absolutely I'm trying to let you
go, because this is this isgetting my golden retriever
(11:20):
energy up, which never happensbecause I'm a black cat but
every now and then you get thatone specific ear tickle.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And apparently, yes, apparently, I'm scratching the
belly just right, and your leg'sstarting to go.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Exactly, go ahead, no no, no, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I mean and follow up to all those ones like dangers,
everything about like howinsanely dangerous it is.
There's just the animals,there's the creatures.
Creatures is it real or not?
Stories, whatever, the freakingmonsters like that one, so
we'll just go ahead with that.
Like sea monsters.
Everybody knows the Kraken, asthey rightfully should, because
that is the most famous, mostwell-known hashtag Kraken
(12:00):
intense focus, legendary,selfless.
Look at you, randy, shout outwhoop, whoop, um, but it is the
most Hashtag.
Kraken Intense Focus, legendarysupplements.
Look at you, randy, shout outWhoop, whoop, but it is the most
Randy.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
That was for free, that was a free promo Randy, oh
shit, anyhow.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I think it is one of the oldest like sea monster
stories was the kraken it's.
I think it's a tie between thekraken and the leviathan,
because the leviathan is broughtup in the old testament in the
yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, itwas of it's a biblical monster
yeah, I know that one and thekraken I'm just gonna say.
But the bible came out afterancient greece and Mesopotamia
and so on and so forth.
So ancient Egypt, rome,mesopotamia and then
(12:54):
Scandinavian texts, ancientScandinavian texts all talk of
the same exact creature and it'sall described the exact same
way.
They just had a different namefor it because it was just their
language.
Of what they called, and then Ithink the one that stuck the
most was the one from norsemythology, because that was the
only one that used um, actually,uh, that was able to be
(13:19):
translated to anglo-saxonenglish, which then became
english english.
Uh, they called the half gufa,half gufa, half half gufa, half
gufer.
I don't know something like thatone, but at that the original
stories was that it was a giant,it was a giant turtle with
tentacles and but same thing,the horrid breath it haunted the
seas.
It did the bidding of like a um, a, uh, like a, like a maritime
(13:46):
demon entity, demonic entity,for whether it's cthulhu, davy
jones, whichever um, whicheverculture you want to, whichever
cultural thread you want to pullon, whichever demonic entity
ruled the sea, it was like theirlittle attack dog, um, but they
all but so.
Some descriptions sea, it waslike their little attack dog,
but they all but so.
Some descriptions of what itlooked like were very similar,
(14:07):
but what it did, how it acted,how it responded, its motives
were always the same and someother things like the giant
tentacles, the horrendous breath, and they all described the
roar being the same exact thingas well to something like the
heavens.
What is it?
The heavens cracking open inthe doom of a thousand worlds,
(14:28):
or something like that.
Everyone every culture saidalmost that exact thing, word
for word Heavens cracking openthousand worlds, doom, blah,
blah, blah.
Which is insane to me, becauseeach of those civilizations were
like a millennia apart from oneanother, and that the fact they
almost, they almost, did thesame thing, wild.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Like, yeah, we had it .
And this is like the same thingwith the dragon, you know, we,
we had that conversation Likethere are so many mythological
monsters that all of thesecultures, so many mythological
monsters, that all of thesecultures, you know that that,
like you said, were, werethousands and thousands of years
(15:11):
apart.
Talk about the same thing.
There has to be some truth toit, there has to be it's just.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's wild to me because, like it means they all
saw the same thing, or the samethings, or they experienced the
same things, and they justthey're.
They're just telling you whatthey saw with their, with their
dialect, with their language,with their, however it is, but
the fact that they all were verydifferent languages and very
different expresses, but theyall used essentially the same
(15:40):
exact way to describe the noisethat it made.
And they're all exploringdifferent waters.
I mean you can make theargument that ancient Egypt and
ancient Rome all sailed acrossthe Mediterranean, even the
Aegean, even parts of the Nileand so on, and so forth, but the
parts of the Nile that wereexplained.
(16:02):
So those two cultures cameacross.
I forget which part of Adena,with Mark Antony and Cleopatra
during the end of the EgyptianEmpire and the Egyptian culture.
I'm talking about ancient, I'mtalking pre-pyramids.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
The pyramids were already ancient, were like
ancient history, by the time theroman empire was founded, and
so the fact like says there'slike a thousand years in between
these two cultures and they'redescribing the same freaking
thing about this one monsteryeah nuts.
Then you go all the other sideof europe to the scandinavians.
They're saying the same fuckingthing right insane, absolutely
(16:40):
insane.
Um, I can do an entire episodeon just the kraken, which I plan
on doing, by the way.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So yes, little coming soon at some point or another.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Um, so you had just them.
Uh, I know you're.
Uh, you're pride and joy,you're, uh, you're fun little
earworm here for more bellyscratches.
Get your leg going, themegalalodons.
Ah, yes, I say Megalodonsbecause it's not like the Kraken
.
So the Kraken is depicted aslike a colossal squid, but like
(17:12):
even bigger.
So there is the Kraken.
So, yes, there are colossalsquids, but there is one
specific Kraken.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
There is.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
In my humble opinion, there is not the Megalodon,
there's just Meggalodons.
I think it is a species thatstill exists.
For those you don't know, amegalodon is take great white
shark and make it as big, if notbigger than, a fucking blue
whale, and try to sleep at nighttry to sleep at night of a
great white shark, blue whalebigger than a blue whale.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Bigger than a blue whale, in fact.
Imagine a shark large enough tobite a blue whale in half, so
its bite radius would have to beable to take down a blue whale.
I mean, just wrap your headaround that fact alone that's.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's a big goddamn fish, yeah we're gonna, we're
gonna need a bigger boat.
You're gonna need a fuckingbattleship.
Okay, bud, to get after one ofthose things well, it's god.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, we know that.
We know that large sharksexisted because we have teeth,
you know, I mean you can, youcan get these.
You know teeth that are as bigas two hands put together.
I mean they're, they're massiveteeth.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
So we know as a computer monitors freaking teeth
on these things, right it'shuge, that's big, but you will
never convince me.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
With us only exploring, and liberally saying,
20% of the ocean, you cannottell me that it doesn't still
exist.
They're there.
(19:17):
Well, I mean, we have a.
I think it's a Greenland shark,that is, it's the oldest shark,
and if I can't remember howmany, I want to say this shark
is like been around for years,and I will always go back to the
coelacanth.
The coelacanth was somethingthat was supposed to have been
extinct.
It was prehistoric fish, theythought it was gone extinct.
(19:40):
They thought it was gone extinctand then damn if they didn't
catch one off the coast ofMadagascar, however many years
ago.
It's been a while, but you know, madagascar, madagascar,
madagascar.
So, yeah, yeah, the Megalodon,I will die on this hill.
(20:08):
Megalodon, they exist, uh, theyare out there and they are
feeding on blue whales well theyshould, those pretentious
bastards.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
No, I'm a giant fish, but not a fish.
That's humpback, my bad yeah,dory, listen get your fucking
whales.
Right, get your whales, right,but yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Anyone who saw the absolutecinematic masterpieces that were
(20:43):
the Meg movies with JasonStatham.
Those movies are so great.
You can't tell me you're goingto die in the hill, that the
Megalodon is real.
I will die in the hill.
Both those movies are gold.
They're so awesome.
They're so awesome.
You just need a ridiculousmovie like that every now and
then.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And he blessed us with two.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I remember when we first saw it.
Lauren and I watched thosemovies side note, right, so we
it was.
It was like a rainy day,wherever the hell every now and
then we, you know, we domarathons like any normal
functioning people, and so it'slike, fuck, we haven't seen
these movies.
Who doesn't like big, bigmonster, big monster movie?
You know, to quote the wholebig monster.
So we're watching the meg,right, like fuck, yeah, so all
(21:24):
right, let's watch the meg too.
Before we, before moving,started, I paused it.
I was like, listen, when you doa sequel to a movie, this
ridiculous, he goes which tropedo you think they're going with?
Because we talked about whenyou do a sequel of, when you do
a big monster sequel like that,right, you do one of two things
there's either a bigger versionof the monster from the first
(21:48):
one or there is more, and so shewas like okay, so, yeah.
So it was like okay.
So in the first one, you knowwhat the meg was.
I don't remember how big thisis like, let's just say a
thousand feet.
So okay.
So the one in the first one waslike a thousand feet long and
the second one, by hollywood law, it needs to be a minimum of
two thousand feet long or therehas to be two like eleven
(22:15):
hundred feet long ones, likethey need to be slightly bigger.
What did they do with thesecond one?
They fucking gave us both.
They gave us like four thatwere the size of.
Montana.
They were fucking huge.
And on top of that they gave usdinosaurs and a giant squid.
It was, I think it was.
It wasn't the Kraken, but itwas a gigantic, it was.
(22:37):
It was just a gigantic octopus.
Right, it was one of the mostridiculously awesome movies ever
.
But yes, that movie is.
It is the way it is on purpose.
It's supposed to be ridiculouslike that one, but kind of like
movies like that.
(22:57):
They, they, they pullinspiration from actual um
science theories and whatnot.
I keep forgetting, right, butit's at the bottom of the
marianas trench, where the jet,where, like that cloud was,
where the meg, where the megslived, all the monsters lived.
That's, that's a real thing.
We've discovered this giantcrack at the bottom.
(23:19):
It's not the Marianas Trench,it's the other trench, it's just
as deep as the Marianas.
But, like I said, we used oursonar technologies that we've
gotten our unmanned submersiblevehicles US, whatever the shit's
right to about the top of thatand they blast their little
sonar things down, so we see howdeep that trench is and the
(23:40):
sonar doesn't go far enough toreach the bottom.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
So literally, so like there's just this giant, so
there's a giant hole in thebottom of the ocean that we
don't even we can't see, becausethere is some type of a
disturbance where, like, thelight can't even get that far,
even with the actual sonarlights, we can't fucking see
what's down there, and there'sno end to it.
(24:06):
So you can't tell me that noneof these things exist until we
can explore all of that.
So, that's an actual scientifictheory is that there is some
type of life or something existsdown there.
Yes, so and then?
Yeah, then you get jasonstatham to do something crazy
with a harpoon gun and it'sawesome and you have a great
(24:27):
movie.
But there is actual scientifictheories based in that one.
Yeah, sea, sea monsters, man,yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Sea monsters, yeah, and that's I think, and that's
kind of like I mean, even if youtake and I don't know where
you're going to go next or what?
you have planned to talk about.
But the thing that alwaysstrikes me is like, if you're
okay a person, you take a sixfoot tall person and they're in
(24:58):
the middle of the ocean.
You know they can.
From the surface down is onlysix feet.
What is below you that youcan't see in all directions,
like that is such a scarythought of how much just depth
is below you.
(25:19):
You know it's like you willnever touch the bottom.
If you do, you're dead, youknow it's like standing in.
Yeah, One of my friends one ofmy friends explained it to me.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
He was like, think of it as, think of it as being in
the middle of a field, butupside down, and I was like, huh
, he was thinking about it.
He goes like when you being inthe middle of a field but upside
down, and I was like, huh, hegoes, think about it.
He goes when you're out,exactly that one.
He goes when you're in themiddle of the ocean and you're
just kind of floating there.
It's just your head above thewater right, and he goes you'll
never touch the bottom, there'sinfinite nothingness below you.
He goes yeah, think of it inthe opposite.
(25:53):
So you're standing on theground right and then you look
up to the sky, it goes yeah,there's, you know, there's the
ozone, there's that one, becausethen there's space, there's.
You'll never touch the top,you'll never see the top,
because it just goes forever andever, because it's the same
thing.
And I was like dude, why yougotta say that kind of shit?
because oh man, why you gottasay shit like that man, why you
(26:15):
gotta say shit well that manwell as above, so below oh god,
here we go.
Yeah, it's just, it's insane,it's just.
Oh god, it fascinates me.
I love the water so god damnmuch, but it fucking terrifies
me but, then other notsupernatural and like other kind
(26:37):
of evils, that this is also,this stuff is a billion percent
true.
Um, just the actual naturalreoccurring bullshitty phenomena
that happens so, like thepressure.
I forget the actual conversionto it, but you know freaking
pretty like a, like a, like atin can exactly, I don't know,
(26:58):
but freddie mercury and davidbogart on something under
pressure, yeah, going to thegoddamn water under a lot of
freaking pressure.
It's like you know what's youknow.
We were just saying you knowwhat's below you when you go
there.
You want to know what's notbelow you in some areas, fucking
a person or like a body,because there's so much pressure
it would literally crush youinto nothing.
(27:18):
You would disappear, you wouldcease to exist.
Okay, yeah, we say you crush acan, you crush a beer can, or
that's just the pressure you cando.
And then there's those videosthat I don't know why I'm so
obsessed with them.
There's some of my favoritevideos in the world, like
hydraulic presses, and then theyjust like crush the shit.
Have you seen the ones wherethey put like the cans, like in
the other, like there's reallythick, like um, and they'll put
like the stacks of whatever thefuck, like cds or whatever?
(27:40):
The cds will just explodebecause there's nothing to keep
them confined.
Then there's the ones wherethey have like that big cylinder
and they, you know, they'll putlike, uh, like squishy balls or
bouncy balls in, right you?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
see, yeah, yeah, yeah , crans, they just come shooting
out of the sides.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Have you ever seen when they do that with like a?
You ever seen the ones wherethey do it with like a solid
object?
They they've.
I've seen ones where they takelike a like a soda can, like a
can of Coke, and then they crushit Right.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
The pressure is so intense that it forces it
liquefies the metal to come outthe sides of the holes, so like
it's pressing down so hard onthat can that it is.
You know, when you presssomething down, it generates
heat because the molecules aregetting so close, close one
another chemistry, one-on-onekids and physics and pretty much
(28:23):
all science right now.
So the pressure so much, itjust created so much heat.
It liquefies the can and itspreads and comes shooting out
the sides.
Now if those sides were pluggedup, it would just keep pushing
pressure and pressure andpressure and pressure and
pressure that it would literallydissolve into nothing.
It would completely burn up anddisintegrate.
That's what happens to yourfucking body in the ocean.
(28:44):
It just keeps going, going,going, going and you just keep
crumpling, crumple, crumple,crumple until you're nothing and
then you literally are justgone from existence because you
can't get any smaller, you justvanish.
Terrifying well, terrifying wellit's like the.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
The reenactments are like the, like the.
It's like a digital renderingof what happened to the people
in the sub, and like the onethat fascinated me the most is
it was talking about showing youthe speed of your, your pain
response.
They imploded faster than thepain response, which means to
(29:27):
say is that they were crushedinto, liquefied into oblivion
before they even felt beforethey felt it Exactly, which is
kind of a relief because itmeans they didn't feel anything.
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
They went from something to nothing faster than
the brain could comprehend.
They were in pain.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yes To all of our beloved listeners.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Google, google right now.
How fast that is.
That scares me even more.
It's just how quick, howrapidly that is.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
And that's like that's the power of the ocean.
That is scary as fuck.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That's the power of Ponsol baby.
I'm just picturing that ladylike showing that one and you go
.
That's the power of pressurebaby.
She just got like a littlevideo that you'd watch in like
science class Just dying.
Oh man, I mean that's the powerof pressure baby.
She just got like a littlevideo that you'd watch like
science classes just just dying.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Oh man, I mean that's , it's just terrifying, it's
absolutely terrifying, but socool it is, it is, it is so cool
, but yeah, because water,because water, oh my goodness oh
yeah, and then the hydrothermalstacks, which is just like,
essentially like holes, like inthe cross and giant fucking
(30:54):
bellows of black smoke.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It looks like anything you've ever seen about,
like pittsburgh or like londonfrom like the 1800s ever
watching like the, like a movie,or like nicholas nickleby or
like oliver twist, like thegiant smoke stacks yeah, it
looks like that's pouring out ofthe bottom of the ocean.
Fun fact that smoke, the blacksmoke that's just pissing out of
that fissure, will liquefy youin seconds, cause it is over 700
(31:19):
something degrees, exceptbetween 700 and 800 degrees is
the middle of those giantsmokestacks just pouring out
into the ocean.
Um, yeah, that's all fun andterrifying.
Rogue waves, yep, asshole wavesabout the size, almost size, of
a tsunami.
Ever seen those awesome videoswhere it's like a ship or where
(31:39):
they'll play like hoist thecolors, with that dude like a
really deep voice, you know,they'll just show up a ship,
that's just goes almost likenose down and the water just
like and they're, the cameramanactually like leans back and you
see water coming over you.
That's a rogue wave.
They're so true.
(32:00):
One of my friends served in themilitary and he had to.
He was what's it called.
He was, um, he was on, uh, hewas on a ship.
You know, hitched a ride withthe navy yeah to one of his
deployments.
And yeah, rogue waves areabsolutely a thing.
There's out there and there'sall sorts of like alarms that go
off like brace for this, bracefor that everyone.
This lockdown, this locked onthat, yeah, it can throw a
(32:21):
fucking aircraft carrier like abath toy oh yeah, google an
aircraft carrier.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Google an aircraft carrier Google, an aircraft
carrier.
That's so scary.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, he was on the George H.
Look how big the George H WBush aircraft carrier is.
That thing was thrown like afucking bat.
It was hit like a bath toy.
And displaced X amount ofdegrees, off course, because it
got hit by a fucking rogue wave.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Wow yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Lots of fun.
Then I guess my little last bithere too is for all my destiny
friends, if you pick up on thislittle joke, you want to know
what's the fun about it.
Ocean's haunted, it's haunted.
There's ghosts, all sorts ofevil, evil, spooky entities out
there.
Obviously, everybody knows themost beloved one, arguably the
(33:16):
peak of cgi eat your heart outjames cameron and the fucking
titanic.
Arguably the peak of cgi waswhen disney and jerry
bruckheimer gave us davy jones.
So there's some truths behindhis story.
So the story in the tale ofDavy Jones, that's probably
going to be another episode thatI want to do too.
Yes yeah, there's so manydifferent depictions where Davy
(33:39):
Jones was just an actual, so theactual story about he was just
in love with the sea and he wasin love with this woman, so that
little bit about the DavyJonesones with disney was true.
Um, he chose that he was inlove with a witch and chose that
one.
He was cursed and whateverthat's like.
The most factual quote-unquotestory is that he was just a
sailor who loved a witch, but heloved the sea more and he was
(34:02):
cursed yeah and he didn't becomewhatever the hell.
And davy Jones Locker.
So that kind of fun stuffthere's, I think there's besides
the Pirates of the Caribbeanmovies, I think there's only one
other account of Davy Jonesactually being the captain of
the Flying Dutchman, but otherthan that, the bulk of the
stories of those two.
They have nothing to do withone another.
Davy Jones Locker is somethingelse.
(34:24):
And now the story of the, thestory of the flying dutchman
being the ghost that ferries thesouls who have died at sea to
the afterlife, is true.
That one's true.
It's just davy jones wasn't thecaptain of it.
The flying dutchman is the ghostferryman, almost like karan um
(34:46):
you know, there's the souls tothe afterlife and shit Supposed
to be an omen for disaster, orlike the Grim Reaper or Mothman,
if you will.
There's been plenty of accountsof seeing the Flying Dutchman
in some type of terror.
There was plenty of eyewitnessreports.
There was reports right beforethe Titanic went down that
(35:07):
plenty of the people on board,including crew members, reported
seeing a ghostly Dutch galleontailing them.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Oh, wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
The Lithuania also had reports of a Dutch galleon,
what you call it, off itsstarboard.
That was where the Lithuanianwas on the starboard side and
then on the port side was whereit was off the port stern, where
they reported seeing it, andthat's where it hit the iceberg.
(35:40):
So it's all towards that areawhere there's a lot of reports
of seeing it before some type ofbig nautical disaster happens.
And then there's things likethe Mary Celeste, the Octavius
just so many many ghost storiesand ghost ships that still haunt
the seven seas.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I love the concept of ghost ships.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I also think the highly underrated early 2000s
horror film Ghost Ship has thegreatest fucking opening scene.
The only other opening scenethat rivals its iconicness and
how fucking awesome it is isBlade.
Blade has the greatest openingscene in any movie I've ever
(36:21):
seen in my entire goddamn life.
Nothing will ever beat thatNothing.
Period, Do not at me, I willfucking fight you.
No other movie, the only onethat comes close is Period, do
not at me, I will fucking fightyou.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
No other movie the only one that comes close is
Ghost Ship.
It was so awesome.
Yeah, that was.
Oh, I really liked that movie.
I feel like an underrated moviethat a lot of people don't talk
about.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That was a good movie , it was scary, so underrated
because it was right towards theturn of it out, any horror
movie that came out betweenScream and Saw just kind of fell
to the wayside just kind offelt, because those two were so
massively iconic and theyfucking flipped the horror genre
on their head.
Anything in the middle thatwasn't Scream just got
(37:01):
completely lost.
And then Saw came out andflipped everything on its head
and then after that, if itwasn't Saw, no one gave a shit.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I digress and we know that, the Flying Dutchman and
Davy Jones we know all of thatis true because they've all
appeared on SpongeBob.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
That is also true, that is very true.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Well, no, because the Whatcha Call it wasn't a ship.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
The actual ghost was the flying dutchman.
He was the flying dutchman I'mnot.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I'm not flying dutchman yeah, and you know I
I've seen it, I've seen it formy own eyes on spongebob, so it
is absolutely real exactly inthe first spongebob halloween
episode was where it gave us theintroduction to Davy Jones and
it's Spongebob and a fuckingHalloween episode.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh my God, anywho, right.
So now that we've talked aboutall the fun fancy freeways,
that's totally safe and notterrifying about the ocean who
wants to go to the beach?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
The beach is fine.
I'm not going in the ocean.
Well, with that, thank you forlistening to another episode of
the black curtain club.
Again, if you are enjoying this, tell a friend, spread the word
that we are here and we're notgoing anywhere.
So give us a rating and a like,find us on social media and
(38:26):
we're going to bring moreweirdness next week.
So that's it, bye.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Drink up me hearties, Yo ho.
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