Well-Aged Horror Movies

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Speaker 3 (00:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm literally just waiting for you guys to shut up.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
I've been saying that for years.
Bushy, oh really, jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Hi everyone.
It's your, hi everyone.
It's your fourth horsemanbrooke, and today we'll we we
will be talking about moviesthat have aged well and, yes,
there is going to be spoilers,so if you haven't seen these yet
, too bad, you've had plenty oftime.
I'm'm here with Becca, angieand Kyle.

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How are you guys today?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Horrible.
Oh my gosh.
I am so excited to be here withKyle, the only person I've ever
met that doesn't have abirthday.
First of all, wow.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I was just thrust into existence.
I was not birthed.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You just became.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Angie, did you want to do some birthday shout outs?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes, so we have a very dear listener and her name
is Teresa Teschner, so herbirthday is April 20th.
If you know Teresa, be sure togive her all kinds of love on
the 20th, and from the BlackCurtain Club, we wish you a very
, very happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Happy birthday Mama.
Happy birthday Teresa.
Happy birthday Teresa Carry on.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
All right.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Oh and also well, also we should acknowledge.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
You know, also we should acknowledge our I don't
know interloper podcaster, kyle,for his birthday.
So happy birthday.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Happy birthday, Kyle.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
That could not have been any more fucking awkward.
So you're welcome.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Okay, he challenged me before the recording and I
knew I had to make it weirdsomehow.
I just didn't know how I wasgonna do it I think we succeeded
I am so excited to talk aboutmovies with you guys.
This is something that we havelike gone over again and again
on our personal calls, so it'slike finally coming to fruition
that we get to sit down and talkabout some scary movies

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together and I'm so freakingexcited.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I want to know how hard it was for you guys to
think of five horror movies thataged well, because it took me
forever.
I literally didn't finish untilyesterday.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I finished this in one sitting.
I was so excited Once I started, I couldn't stop.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
It was difficult to narrow it down for two reasons
one, because I feel that there'squite a few of them that have
aged pretty well, but also mybrain.
I was like you can't give metoo vague of a task, I need
specifics.
I was like, okay, aged well,how, how old?
Like movies that just came out,yeah, they were great, but we

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can't say they haven't aged well, because they haven't aged.
They just came out like we'retalking 10 years, 20 years, 30
years, black and white, but Ineed the criterias.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
So I knew you were gonna overthink this.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I love it um, and then I was promptly yelled at
and I got my shit together and Igave some movies.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
So all right, um, let's get into it.
What we're gonna do is aroulette wheel.
Um, I actually made like alittle spinning wheel with all
of our names, so we're justgonna click the button and
whoever it lands on is gonnatell me the first movie that
they picked.
Can you hear it?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
yeah, yeah, it's like real fortune.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
It's angie what, what , who took?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
my first one is the mist.
So it's from 2007, I think thatit's aged well, because like it
just has this sense of unease,like you don't know what the
horrors are, but you knowsomething is just lurking out of
sight.
It's just the tension is in theair, it has psychological
torture, um, and then, like theending is so, oh, it's just so

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tragic, so fucking depressing.
Yeah, it is.
It is Like the ending is soshocking.
But Thomas Jane, he played therole of David Drayton, you know,
just fantastic actor.
And then you know, shout out toMarcia Gay Harden, I just love
her as an actress.

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Oh, yes, she played thatreligious zealot.
So not only are you dealingwith like the horrors of these
monsters that are taking over,but then you have this like
crazy woman.
That's psychological threat andall of that.
It's just it just has all theclassics, stephen King what more
is there to say?

Speaker 4 (05:42):
So that's why it's aged well, because it's just
real life.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Unknown horrors.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
You got a crazy religious zealot barking at you.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
It's literally just, it's just Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Honestly, the ending of that movie has stuck with me
since the very first time Iwatched it.
I was one of those weirdo kidsthat have watched it probably
since I was 10 or 12 years oldand like sometimes it just pops
into my head and I'm like, ohyeah, that made me feel bad.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
It's 100% a valid pick.
I love the Mist.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Can we, just like you , still want to talk about the
Mist?

Speaker 4 (06:14):
I mean, there's just like funny scenes in that movie
and shit.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Okay, kyle, kyle, take us through it.
I want to know my bad, I wantthat.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I want that he's ready for deep analysis.
Oh no, I want this I need this.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
It's just kind of funny because I watched this
movie like two days ago.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I watched it like two days ago.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
I don't know why, but like the badass biker dude,
right, he's like all right, justtake that rope and tie it
around me, I'm getting the fuckout of here, right.
And so he's going to get hisknife something like that one
and so everything goes and it'slike he gets like dragged up and
also kind of crazy shit,whatever.
They're just like dragging itback and it's just what's left
of the bottom half of his bodyand everyone's just like
mortified, but they're stilldragging it like why?

Speaker 1 (06:56):
why are you?
And then for the rest of themovie.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
For the rest of the movie, there's just deadpan
shock gets me every time there'sjust there's just half a body
just in frame when they go torun.
I think the guy who ended upbeing the doctor in the captain
america movies, I think, yeah, Ithink he like trips on it.
He doesn't fall, but he likelike it's still there.
I love it, like I absolutelyfucking love that.

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Oh yeah, you want to talk aboutsome nightmare fuel when they
go to the pharmacy?

Speaker 3 (07:28):
and there's the fucking spiders everywhere the
acid web.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
And then there's the MP guy it was us, it was us.
And he like falls off the walland just explodes in like a
billion little spiders Fuckingterrifying man.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh, it's so disgusting, oh my God.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm like getting the heebie-jeebies right now just
talking about it?

Speaker 3 (07:51):
oh my god, did anyone else?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
said they have the heebie-jeebies, the
heebie-jeebies, the horse isdead the horse is dead okay, the
wheel has picked me, so one ofmine I have here is sinister.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
When sinister came out, I feel like it was during
the time when netflix was stillreally trashy, but they put
sinister on and it was obviouslyamazing sinister.
I feel like when it first cameout was extremely
underappreciated, but I thinkit's kind of turning into like a
cult classic now, where themore people I talk to about it
they're like oh yeah, like thatmovie's awesome, it's so good,

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versus way back when they wouldhave been like I don't know what
Sinister is.
I also love the music in thismovie.
I feel like it's way differentthan any other horror movie.
There's like lots of drums andbeats and this is actually
coming up in more horror moviesnow in 2020.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Well, I know that I had this on my list and I let
you have this one.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
This is my top Wow.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Humble Queen.
I know Humble Queen but this islike my top tier, absolute
favorite scary movie ever.
I am one of these people that Ijust don't get scared at movies
.
I don't find anything shockingor nothing gives me the creeps.
This movie gave me the creeps,in fact.

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I still will not watch thismovie like late at night.
This movie just hits all of thethings that I need to scare me.
It's got the music, the creepy,creepy character, just the way
that they reveal the murdersthat happen and like the
atrocities that happen.

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It's so.
The cinematography is just sogood and it's it's graphic, but
in such an artsy way like yousee what's happening.
But you don't it?
oh, I just love this movie somuch.
Love it.
Love ethan hawke, it's justperfect.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
This is another one of those movies where, like, the
ending fucks you up for a longtime.
Like I always forget the endingto this movie and then I watch
it again and I'm like, holy shit, I can't believe that just
happened.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah, it is the first movie in a long time, very
similar to what Angie said.
So it's like, yeah, you watchsome movies, like when you were
a kid.
I remember the Exorcistabsolutely terrifying me forever
.
And then I watched it when Iwas a and I'm like, fucking what

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?
Like, yeah, it's like it'sspooky.
It's spooky, you know, but likeI'm not.
Oh, you know it's, it's a scare.
Sinister absolutely terrifiedme.
I don't care how this makes yousound.
I cannot watch that movie withthe lights off.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, no, yeah, no I swear to god honestly, this
movie is everything.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Whoever's listening to this if you haven't seen
sinister, please watch it.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Becca, that means you if you haven't seen this movie.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I was sitting here quietly hoping that, like this,
would just move on and nobodywould talk to me, because I have
no idea what the fuck you guysare talking about.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Becca, you are fucking up bud.
You are fucking up bud.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Becca we might have to have a Discord party and
stream Sinister.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, I can't find time in my day to shower, but I
will find time to watch Sinisterwith you.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Priorities- Okay, I'm going to my trusty wheel.
It's Becca's turn.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yay.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Not Sinister.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yay.
So I'm a lot like Angie.
It's really hard for movies toscare me, and I think I've made
it pretty crystal clear fromepisode one of this podcast that
Becca is not of sound mind.
So I like the really fucked upones and I also like the really
simple ones.
My first one is the Descentfrom 2005.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Chef Kiss.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
So yeah, at the bone.
It's a movie about the effectsof isolation, vulnerability on
the human body, but turned up to10.
It's about five women whoregularly thrill-seek.
They meet up in an attempt toreconnect after one of the women
experiences the loss of herhusband and daughter.
So it's supposed to be thislike oh, we're getting the girls

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back together, we're going togo do something risky like we
like to do, and we're just goingto bond and have a great time.
So what's supposed to be aroutine cave exploration in the
appalachian mountains turns intomore than a trust exercise when
the way in gets blocked off andthey have to basically find
their way out.
And in the struggle theystumble upon this impossibly

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fast humanoid with pale skin andmilky eyes.
It literally like flips thewhole movie around from the
second like you think.
It's just like a normal, likenature horror movie.
But suddenly there's monsters.
And it's not just any monster,it's like an albino bat and
smiegel from ward of the ringshad a baby.
It's this fucker, right, okay.
And there's not just one lankyweirdo with a taste for human

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flesh, there's like a wholesecret colony of primal pasty,
apex, predators, and then okayso if the monsters weren't
enough, we find out one of thebitches was sleeping with the
dead husband oh, and this wholetrip was a way for her to like,
ease her guilty conscience.
She took them all to anundiscovered cave system instead

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of the one that they had themap for.
So in my opinion, she's thereal villain of this movie.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
She is the villain and I really hope that those
pasty monsters ate her up.
I hope they were like mmm, likeshe's so pasty.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
They don't get her in movie one, but they get her in
movie two.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
She doesn't not make it out, let me tell you.
Okay, what idiot decides to goback to that cave after seeing
that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Okay, okay, the girl whose husband dies finds out yes
, they're like making thatdesperate run for the escape,
right, and she looks over at thegirl who slept with her husband
and sticks like a knife in herleg so she can't run.
I mean, it's very simple.

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The special effects are likesuper minimal and I think the
main antagonist is literallyjust how dark it is.
The monsters are scary, but thereal people are also very scary
and I think they just did aphenomenal job with this movie.
What do you guys think about?

Speaker 4 (14:22):
oh, a million percent that they are yeah god, I think
the only creatures that areactually scarier looking.
It's like tower man from night.
Of the living dead too, likethat's the only more grotesque
looking monster I've ever seenfrom elder scrolls yeah, they do
, they really do, and it's justoh, it's yeah, no, it's just

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nope.
Like you said, it's the not verymovies, not very movies, not
very many movies can capture andinstill, like you're watching
the movie in you know thecomfort of your own home or in a
theater, in a big room and soon and so forth, the

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cinematography in that movie.
With some of the tight fitting,they instill claustrophobia.
You know, but, oh my god,absolutely like, oh my god, I
feel like my skin is.
I can watch that movie in themiddle of a field and I'm gonna
feel in like the tiniest cube,being squished by everything

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around me.
That with that one specificscene where like, ah shit,
what's fucking?
Whatever bitch is squeezingbetween two things and it is
absolutely terrifying and I'mjust like, yeah, like it's I.
It's hard for me to breatheduring that scene where I'm like
, oh shit, oh my god, I justnope, I can't.
I have to take a lap after thatscene alone.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's, it's amazing yeah, the sense cgi's is kind of
like holding up to you overtime, is it?
It's like what?
Like almost 20 years old, now20 years old yeah, it was 2005
and they used.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
the thing is they used very minimal CGI.
They used a lot of prostheticsto make like people, like little
monsters, and I think that islike the secret for these movies
the practical effects, yeahexactly.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, I'm instantly terrified of your movie if you
have practical effects andmakeup.
But yeah, one on my list.
That's the main reason why itwas why I chose that one is
because of the actual makeup allright, it's kyle's turn.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
I'm not gonna spin the wheel for this one just
because I know kyle has notvented to us about a horror
movie yet.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Um, I don't know if this counts as a horror movie,
but I'm pretty sure it does.
I don't give a damn americanpsycho.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
No explanation definitely counts, definitely
counts love.
No explanation why that movieholds up.
We're just moving on because itis no, it's very valid it's
cinema I think it's also one ofthose ones that are like no one
had ever watched it and now thatI'm older, like everyone's,
like, oh yeah, like you knowamerican psycho.
I'm like oh my god, yes, I knowamerican psycho.
Like you know american psychoyes, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
And then it was not too long ago, um, I don't know,
I fell down the youtube likerecommended, you know hole on
the side there and um, there's,there's a page on there where
they'll just they'll get actorsand actors, they'll sit down,
have them just talk about liketheir iconic roles.
And they had christian bale inthere one time and he was
talking about American psychoand he fought so hard to make

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that move.
That movie almost like didn'thappen and there was all sorts
of turmoil, whatever.
And he fought so hard and hebelieved in that movie so so
hard, like I don't remember alllike the really in depth
specifics of of it, but hefought tooth and nail to make
sure that that movie got madeand, if I remember correctly,
like it didn't have that big ofa budget like it was almost like

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they just kind of who gives ashit?
just throw it at the wall,whatever's there, just release
it, because we can whateverscraps.
We have put some type of amovie together and see what it
does.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Lo and behold, lo and behold I think I remember when
I first watched that it waspretty new and I remember being
like why does this look?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
like it's like filmed 10 or 20 years ago, like the
the film wasn't good, but it wasreally new, um, so it does make
sense that it was like lowbudget, but it's so good, well,
but I think that was anintentional thing, because it's
set in the eighties and theywanted to have this whole, you

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know, like it was an age, youknow, age film, I think that was
an intentional, you know waythat they filmed that.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
But yeah, cause it came out like 99 or 2000 or
something like that, I think,2000.
Um yeah it's just oh christ,and no one can no one with a
working brain can hear any songby huey lewis in the news and
not look at their friend andjust go hey you like huey lewis

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in the news and like you have tosay it like that also yeah I
mean yeah that's such an iconicscene it's.
It's.
It's the bandwagon scene, it'sthis if you don't know the movie
, you know the scene.
But I don't know what I love somuch about it the fact that by
the end of it, christian baletakes an axe to jared leto's

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head, or just the fact of likehe's just going on and on and
he's just info dumping.
So like I I relate to somelevel.
He's just info dumping abouthugh lewis news, but his stupid
little dance and like walk ashe's, like putting on this rain
jacket and taking his coat off,and like grabbing the axe and he
has that big shit eating grinon his face and it's just like

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yeah he's just so happy and justso like oh my god, this is the
greatest of my life.
Hey, paul wham love it.
Yeah, absolutely love it, withjust like the two newspapers put
out.
So he doesn't like stain hiscarpet or whatever, but he put
like just the funny pages out.
That proceeds to like justmassacre him it's just you've

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completely repainted the place.
It's so fucking funny.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Like you know, he's sitting there like drunk or high
off his ass and he's justlooking around, like yeah like
do you have?

Speaker 4 (20:15):
a dog?
Do you have like a little chowor something?
I do he like gets in his facelike I do you silly willy.
It's so funny, it's like I lovethat, I absolutely.
I just I love that movie.
I absolutely love that movieand I think it is like everyone

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kind of talks about.
But I don't know, I think ittakes a very certain kind of
actor to to.
If you can play a convincingcrazy person or a psychopath or
whatever the hell it is, it'svery hard for me to think that
you're a bad actor or actress.
And Christian Bale, without adoubt for me, my own personal

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opinion solidify himself as anunbelievable actor with the
performance in that movie alone.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, I always like to throw out something about a
reservation at Dorsia, because Ifeel, like that's like a little
nugget that really tells me ifyou know the movie or not.
Because you know, I've talkedto people about that and I'm
like well, hey, do you want toget a reservation at Dorsea?

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And they're just like huh, andthen other people get it.
I love those little nuggetslike that.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Not to mention Christian Bale is hot as fuck in
that movie.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Oh God, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Like I don't care if you're a killer, you can kill me
like yes, please, oh yeahplease and thank you as long as
you're the last thing I'mlooking at when I die, like, yes
, all right, I'm spinning mywheel, my trusty wheel, okay, oh

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, that's what it's called now.
All right, we're back to becca.
All right, I'm spinning mywheel, my trusty wheel, okay.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Oh, that's what it's called now.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
All right, we're back to Becca.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Hi guys, it's me Becca.
You'll notice I didn't sayanything about American Psycho.
I hate that fucking movie.
So my next movie is the Grudge.
It came out in like 2006, 2005,somewhere around then.
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
I'm going to do the whole thing now, because did you
hate American Psycho?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Ah, so this film is actually?
It's a remake of a Japanesemovie called.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Ju-On.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
And I think that they did such a good job because
they made this movie genuinelyhorrific.
Like our main girl, sarahMichelle Gelle geller, she's a
home health aid for this mostlycatatonic elderly lady in japan,
and the house is just haunted.
Right, it's instantly you cantell.
But it's not just haunted, it'slike it has a grudge on mankind

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.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
So there's a curse oh , maybe that's why it's named I.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
The curse manifested when the house's previous owners
had a bit of a domesticsituation.
So long story short.
Jealous husband murders wifeand son right.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
As you do.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
So the wife and son are two of the ghosts we see.
We also see this jaw ladythat's running around.
You know who I'm talking about.
It's a movie about pretty muchinevitable dread and an
unbreakable curse, and it's likeonce the negative energy tastes
you, it chases you down andwill hunt you down until you're
dead.
I think that there's somethingabout the hopelessness of it

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that hits me the most.
They can't leave, they can'toutsmart it, like you always see
these scary movies and you'relike why didn't they just leave?
Well, the bitch did leave andit chased her down.
It's like gravity, you know,like you don't always notice it,
but it's there and the traumaelements.
The way the house seems sentientlike the ghosts, it becomes
this like choose your fighter ofthe worst kind.

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Do you want the croaking atticlady?
Do you want the woman without ajaw just drooling on the
goddamn floor?
And if none of these tickleyour trauma, just right, there's
this gaunt cat boy who willliterally yowl your soul out of
your body like it's so scary butwait, there's more such a good

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movie I think, the grudgesagreed, all the so iconic in our
society, also like that noise.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
You know that noise, it's just like any.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Anytime anyone does that, people get scared it's
supposed to be like a deathcroak, like a death rattle.
That was the last noise shemade when she was alive and
she's just like stuck in thisdeath rattle.
She can't make any other sound.
It's fucking horrifying.
They did so good making thesound like a character in the
movie yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Uh, I'm gonna burst your bubble on this one, but, um
, that noise was very easilyrecorded.
They just like followed myfather when he went to, like,
give his subway order.
What can I get for you today?
And the director just turnedaround and goes wait a minute,
Do that again.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Can I get a?
Hey, get out of my house.
Sorry Dad, sorry Dad sorry, dad, alright.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I have been chosen.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Brooke, it's your time.
I see the light okay.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
So my next movie that I want to talk about is Shudder
not to be confused with ShudderIsland.
If any of you say ShudderIsland, I'm gonna lose it.
Right, talk about is ShudderNot to be confused with Shudder
Island.
If any of you say ShudderIsland, I'm going to lose it.
Right now, I love ShudderIsland.
Can we talk about that movie?
No, we are not talking aboutShudder Island.
That is not found as a horrormovie.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
We're talking about Shudder 2008.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
This is a movie where , essentially, a couple moves to
Japan after they get marriedbecause the husband is a
photographer.
They start realizing that theirhome, as well as other areas,
are haunted, so I'm talkingabout, like their friend's home,
their car, basically everything.
They're being followedessentially by a ghost, by a

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ghost and then, afterinvestigation, his wife realizes
that it's because this womancommitted suicide after being
sexually assaulted by thehusband and his two friends.
So it's a very, very sad movie.
Yes, it's a very, very sadmovie, but it's one of those
ones that every single time youwatch it, you realize things
that you have never noticedbefore in the movie.
Um, and I think this movie isjust really good because in

(26:50):
today's society, like, there isunfortunately a lot of women who
that kind of thing happens to,and I think this just shows,
like the, the long-term effectsit can have on people, even in
the afterlife.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
That is so interesting.
I've never seen Shudder, I'veseen Shudder Island Fantastic
movie.
Shudder sounds awesome.
It almost sounds like revengeporn in the best way, like fuck
this guy.
His whole life gets ruinedruined the ending is amazing.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't want to spoil it for you, but the ending is
amazing.
The friends both get what theydeserve and the husband also get
what he deserves.
It's very satisfying.
And his wife also leaves him.
She's like fuck you, Like Ididn't know I married a rapist,
like I feel like there's a lotof women who would have been

(27:45):
like oh, like he's changed, likeI can fix him, like whatever
the wife was straight up.
Like oh, like I'm so disgustedby you, like fuck you, I'm
leaving and then, and then yeahI'm so glad she got the ick from
her.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
She was her husband, she was a girl's girl.
The wife's a girl's girl it wasso relatable when she hated his
guts after that.
Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
I was like, yes, like good on you girl.
At first, like when I wasyounger, I didn't really
understand it very well and Iwas like why would she leave him
over a ghost?
But like now that I'm a fulladult, I'm like, yes, okay,

(28:31):
where's my trusty wheel?
Um, all right, I'm spinning itagain.
Okay, it's kyle, oh boy.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
All right, let's go with the thing.
1982, kurt russell.
Absolutely, oh sorry, I gottasit back up here on this one.
Uh, I mean, yeah, everyone'skind of describing like, what
the movie is for those of youhaven't seen.
Everyone's kind of describingwhat the movie is For those of
you who haven't seen it or don'tknow what the movie is first

(29:09):
off, what?
Second of all, a research teamdown in Antarctica uncovers a
otherworldly being of some sort.
It's probably some alien,monster, fucking thing, thing.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
There's the name.
Something you know Is is thething well, no it can't it can.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
It can shape shift.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
It can shape shift so it could take on a c, a
seamless.
You cannot tell um.
The form of man or beastdoesn't matter.
So like at one point it um.
I think the first thing that itdoes it disguises itself as
like one of like they have, likesled dogs and shit like that.
It like turns itself and takeson the form of one of the dogs
and is like into the camp andlike like eats like three of the

(29:55):
dogs or something like that,like iconic scene too, like I
just visualized that, yeah, allof it and it's like, yeah, it's
just, that's what's nuts, and Ithink I don't.
It's hard trying to find out.
Like, what's scary I mean, wewere talking about it earlier is
that the practical effects andthe makeup is absolutely

(30:17):
terrifying.
It's just, you want to make agood scary movie, you make, you
don't CGI it, you take, you putthe time, you put the effort,
you hire good makeup artists,good visual effects and you make
a terrifying, grotesque monsterof sorts.
And the fact that you take onso many different shapes it
doesn't always look the same.
It does not always look thesame.
And the part that I audiblygasp at every single time is it

(30:40):
took on the shape of one of theolder guys in the uh in the team
.
God, I can't.
I can't remember his name rightnow, but he's like having a
heart attack.
So they're going to use the?
Uh the defibrillator on thepaddles, right, so they go and
clear.
And when he goes to put thepaddles on him, his chest opens
up like a venus flytrap mouth orlike one of the like piranha
plants from like uh, like ummario, and literally just chomps

(31:03):
.
His whole chest just opens upand just like chops that guy's
hands I audibly gasp everysingle time and I know it's
fucking coming and it's just,it's so good, it's absolutely
it's.
But I don't know if it's themonster itself or how.
You don't know who it is, youdon't know what it is, um, but
it also plays into like thepsyche.

(31:24):
The whole thing is like thedistrust because they don't know
who's real, who is it?
Which one is?
it's the original among us, likehairy guy sus hairy guy sus
funny guy sus it really, reallyis like I'm not even trying to
be cute and funny, right now itis the original among us and the
.
It's really, really toughbecause the ending of the movie,

(31:48):
um, it comes down to the twocharacters left out of everyone
who's down there at the researchteam.
Everyone's dead.
The only way to kill themonster is by setting it on fire
.
It's like the only weapons theyhave in there because, like I
said, they're scientists onthere there's no like military
presence they're in antarctica,right like, yeah, they're in
arctic literally yeah all theyhave is like flamethrowers,

(32:11):
which is funny as hell eitherway, um, so they um so like the
entire facility.
Everything is burning down.
It's the last two characters.
They're like, they're in like atruck or something like that or
some type of like a shack,that's like the ruins of it and
just the all the buildingsaround them are burning.
They got separated earlier onand they're staring at each

(32:33):
other and they're just like, hey, what happened to you?
Kind of thing.
He goes oh, I got lost becauseof the storm when I was chasing
blair and also that kind of funstuff, and they're just kind of,
they're just staring at eachother and they go to share a
drink and one of the ways totell it, um, it was affected by
fire and alcohol.
So that was like.

(32:56):
The test was, uh, whether theywould put like a little bit of
like like the igniter to theflamethrower to like the blood,
and if it reacted, that's howyou would know whatever it was.
Or, same thing, if anyone to gotake any type of sip of alcohol
, it would react that way.
So they go to like share adrink and one takes one.
It looks like one of them takesa sip but they doesn't.
The other one doesn't take asip, and so it leaves the

(33:18):
speculation that if one of themis the creature, one of them
isn't.
Are they both the creature?
Like what?
it's there's that there's thatominous yeah distrust, you can't
trust who's friend or foe.
I absolutely, I absolutely lovethat movie.
It's so fucking good.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
And come on, kurt russell yeah, that's a good one,
good pick what I'm not asfamiliar with, but I know that
it's iconic because peoplealways talk about it yeah, yeah
yeah shit, I'm gonna watch thatmovie later I want to make a
version called that.
What is that?

Speaker 4 (33:59):
what is that the thing?
Oh my god, it's that know theydid a remake of it in like 2011
or something.
Not that that they did it'slike it's like okay, so write
the script, send it to SimonPegg and Nick Frost, because
they're like, come on, that'sright up their alley.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
It's a very Abbott and Costello kind of horror
movie.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
What's that?
Who's on first?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
No, that, that thing no that that thing, no, not that
thing.
That thing, the other thing no,the other thing, that thing, no
, that's a hoochie, what's it?
Not a thingamajig.
Don't you see the thing, no,the majig.
Oh, like that's it.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
All right, Angie, you're up.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
All right, well, I have.
This is kind of like a freebie,it's a given.
Everyone should feel this wayabout this movie, and so it's
the Shining from 1980.
Oh yeah, I mean it really.
It really still stands up.
It really still stands up UmKubrick's use of like isolation

(35:08):
and visuals and like theunsettling sound design.
Um iconic, absolute iconicperformances with um Jack
Nicholson's portrayal of JackTorrance, um Shelley Duvall's
character, even the you know thecigarette.

(35:30):
Yes, yeah, I just found her acigarette.
Yeah, no, um shelly devol'scharacter, even the ash on her
cigarette.
Yes, yeah, it's on hercigarette.
Yeah, no, um, fucking creepylittle kid, danny, you know I
hate that, it's just.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
I love danny honestly come play with us.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
but you know they're just, it's just psychological
horror.
You know it's, it's a slow burn, but like that cigarette.
It's like that damn cigarette.
But what's interesting is howKubrick used the Overlook Hotel
to actually become a characteritself, a character itself, and

(36:09):
it has like these Labyrinthianhalls and they're eerie and like
the abandoned spaces and likethese amplifying feelings of
isolation and paranoia.
You have supernatural elementslike the ghosts and his visions.
There's just a real kind ofethereal quality to this type of
horror and it really kind ofblurs that line between what's a

(36:30):
paranormal influence and what'sa true mental breakdown and you
just you're on a ride into likethis slow descent into madness
and the horror is more likeinternal than external, and the
horror is more like internalthan external and I think that

(36:50):
that just makes everything feellike just more intimate and
personal.
So that's my take.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
uh why I think the shining still remains like one
of the best horror movies evermade one of the things that I
always have in mind when I thinkof the shining is the way
stanley kubrick treated.
All of the things that I alwayshave in mind when I think of
the shining is the way stanleykubrick treated all of the
people on the set while theywere doing.
It was almost like he wasputting them in the conditions

(37:15):
that the character yeah yeah,yeah, was not well after that
movie oh, she was not, no, shecracked her little gourd making
that movie, jesus yeah, blessher heart but it's, it's still,
it does.
It does hold up so well.
It's not.
It's almost dated, but they dosuch a good job of it that it
doesn't seem dated, and I alwaysremember that woman in the

(37:37):
bathtub so unnecessary so sodisgusting bro it looks like one
of the people in davy Jones'ship Pirates of the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
You're totally right.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
She has barnacles on her.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah, bootstrap, belle's mother.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
I do agree that Bootstrap Belinda the Shining is
very iconic.
Like I think it's in the Likethere's so many references to it
now in pop culture, like youhave to know the Shining, but I
do not's so many references toit now in pop culture, like you
have to know the shining.
But I do not like the slowaspect to it, like if everything
was like happening likeimmediately, I'd be like, yes,
love this movie.

(38:16):
I also I did read this book andI don't think that the shining
gives the shining justicebecause the book is actually
mostly about, um, how danny hasthe shining and I don't think
there's magic yeah, I don'tthink there's like enough of
that in this movie, but I dounderstand why this movie is
like very iconic, um, thatthere's a lot of references to

(38:37):
it and why it's held up overtime and I think a lot of the
points you make and you're likesuper, super valid I just also
want to kind of sidetrack us alittle bit that there is an
ongoing theory that stanleykubrick um implanted a lot of

(38:58):
information into that movieabout the fact that he
orchestrated and directed.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I know what you're going to say I know, I know what
you're going to say Moonlanding.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
The reason why it's held up is because we could talk
about this later.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Yes, there is a going conspiracy theory that that
movie is him.
Is him admitting quote, unquoteand a lot of Easter eggs and so
on and so forth that he was thedirector and did the filming
for the quote, unquote, fakingthe moon landing.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, it's wild.
I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I feel like I would be negligible if I didn't say
that I live in Northern Colorado.
The Stanley Hotel, which iswhat the Overlook Hotel is based
off of, it's about an hour awayfrom my home.
I've never been inside, butI've trolled around the parking
lot like driving real slow tosee if I could see ghosts in the
window.
And it definitely has like aforeboding feeling when you're

(39:58):
looking at it.
And it might just be becauselike it's in a weird location
it's right up on the mountains,but it's also like in the middle
of a city.
So it's just like it locationit's right up on the mountains,
but it's also like in the middleof a city.
So it's just like.
It's like an odd feeling youget when you're there.
It's a very strange building,you guys should check it out
sometime.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'm gonna check it out.
I'd love to check it out, allright.
All right, who is the nextmovie?
I spun and the wheel landed onme.
I'm orange and I'm gonna pick,pick Jeepers, creepers.
Yes, I'm picking JeepersCreepers.
Shout out to Jeepers, creepersOnly to those.
Yes, this movie has aged sowell because of literally how

(40:35):
scary it is.
This is actually a horrifyingmovie.
We did talk about it a coupleweeks ago.
If you haven't listened to ourWendigo episode, please go back
and listen to it.
But basically we talk about howhorrifying Jeepers Creepers is
onigo episode.
Please go back and listen to it.
But basically we talk about howhorrifying Jeepers Creepers is
on that episode and all thethings that happen on it.
But the reason I'm saying it'saging well is literally just

(40:59):
because of the Windigos and Ithink this is just making him
kind of more relevant again inpop culture's such a good movie,
dude.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
It holds up so well.
I think it's one of the firstscary movies I ever saw as a kid
.
I was way too young the firsttime I watched it and like the
scene at the end with theeyeballs and the face so
unnecessary like I will neverforget that movie.
I will never forget that movie.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
The scene that got me was where he's like stitched up
in the like he goes into theyes, into the tube and he finds
that guy and he's like literallystill alive and he's like
literally stitched up all downhis body.
I'm like, oh my God, that'shorrifying to me.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Okay, what about when it eats the tongue out of that
guy's head?
It's just awful.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Oh, it's just awful.
Oh god, they I think it, I Ithink.
The reason why I think thereason why it holds up so well,
is because that's an early 2000sone right?
yes, yeah, that's like it cameout like right at the turn of
the.
It almost like it created thehybrid between the high school
slasher flick of like the 80sand like the 90s.
So like it took, it took theactual slasher, spooky monster

(42:16):
thing of um nightmare on elmstreet.
Friday the 13th, halloween.
All those slasher flicksdoesn't make them a slasher, it
makes it a monster, just likethat one.
It brings the teen aspect, notlike the stupid whatever the 90s
ones.
So the I know what you did lastsummer, the screams, etc.
So it brought angsty onesexactly the angsty ones, not the

(42:37):
stupid ditzy like typical, likethe jock, the whore, the virgin
kind of stuff from the 80s um,just the cabin in the woods
exactly I love that goddamnmovie, um it and somehow also
brought the it.
It dipped its toes for the waveof paranormal ones and like the

(42:58):
ghosties and the spookies andthe specters that was to come.
So it was.
It paid homage and it had it.
It's got it's.
It's got enough irons in thefire.
It's dipping its toes ineverything.
It's a little bit of all thegenres into one and so you can't
.
It was like oh, it's like thismovie.
Oh, like you said, it goes.
The shock value, like you'llsee in the shock value, is

(43:20):
something like you would see inthe Shining or something that
you would see in any Rob Zombiemovie, although Jeepers,
creepers did that shock thingwith the tongue scene, with the
stitched up scene and so on andso forth, before the rest of
those movies.
So it's almost like oh, that'slike that one.
Oh, yeah, that one from it.
So it's almost a pioneer of anew, like the new age of, like

(43:44):
the horror movie, while stillpaying its respects to the ones
before it.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Maybe I'm just thinking, I'm overthinking it,
maybe no, I love that do so wellwhen they make like an urban
legend all their.
Yeah, exactly it makes it sorich and textured you can't help
but be invested in itabsolutely absolutely yeah, I
love the way that you describethat.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
I love that you said that it it kind of changed the
future of movies it really did,at least that's yeah, million
percent, million percent.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
That was actually that one was actually going to
be on my list well, it was onmine first so there yeah all
right, I'm spinning my wheel.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Who's destined?
It's kyle.
Again wait, did kyle just go?
I don't know, I don't evenremember.
At this point I'm just goingwith it, let's go okay, my next
one.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Hmm, which one do we talk about next?

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I know nightmare on elm street fantastic yeah,
absolutely so my celebrity crush, freddy krueger not robert
england, freddy krueger, no,it's.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
Uh.
So I was going like okay, sojust to slightly backpedal, I
was my list.
I went for movies that I feelreally did something to the
genre as a whole, not just likea good movie, but it did
something that is either stillpresent or had an impact on the
horror genre all the way through, and so I feel that nightmare

(45:22):
on elm street gave us the bestslasher because it attacked you
where you were the safest, whenyou were lying asleep.
You know you're told as a kid,when you go to sleep, nothing
can hurt you in your dreams.
Dreams aren't real, so you'resafe there.
Surprise bitch.

(45:43):
Um, so there's that aspect to it.
But the fact he was sosarcastic and so just psychotic
and laughing and joking and thepuns and the ridiculousness and
how everything can be warpedbecause it's in a dream, like
halloween, is scary because hedoesn't talk and he's just there

(46:05):
and he's just daunting you andhe's just chasing you.
But eventually you can get awayfrom him because you are in the
real world and you know, uh,friday the 13th, same thing.
It's just okay.
Just get a splash of water inhis face and you're fine.
That's a script tonight orwhatever the hell same thing.
You're in the real world, butyou're in the dream world where

(46:28):
reality isn't a thing.
And then the terrifying littleone, two, it's gonna come, uh,
one two freddie's coming for you, the bad.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
The badass claw come on the bars, yes, bars, bars for
days oh my god I love it.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
I absolutely love it, but, um, I mean, but also, you
know, without that movie wewouldn't have uh, you know we
wouldn't have Johnny Depp and orJohnny Depp in a crop top.
So, like, thanks for that.
But I feel like, like I said,almost like with Jeepers,
creepers he brought somethingbrand new to the table and just

(47:01):
completely flipped it on itshead, like he's finding he's not
full-heartedly driven byrevenge, he's doing it because
he wants to and he's getting anactual kick out of doing it.
That's why he's laughing andhe's taunting you and he's not
just chasing you down to killyou.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I think any scary movie that has a fun little
jingle attached to it is Aging.
Well, he's got his littlejingle.
Jeepers Creepers has got hislittle jingle.
Jeepers creepers has got hislittle jingle.
There's a movie called deadsilence that.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
That's got a cute little jingle yes, which is it
insidious that has the tiny timsong tiptoes?

Speaker 2 (47:37):
yeah, oh my god, yes yep yep okay, that movie I hate
that movie I know I was tryingto talk to you about it.
You were having none of it.
Angie, I know you don't likethat movie.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Insidious, honestly, can go fuck itself.
I'm with Angie.
Yes, amazing, I'm not doing,I'm not gonna do spin, I'm just
picking Angie she's pissed offat her wheel.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Well, literally it's like I'm not gonna to do a spin.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
I'm just picking Angie.
She's pissed off at her wheel.
Well, literally it's like I'mnot going to put her last again.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
It's all right, I'm used to being last Yikes.
No, so for my next one isResident Evil.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yes, I'm so happy.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
So there was two on this list I could not wait to
talk about.
It was this one yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
So if you don't know, resident evil is part of a
video game legacy.
You know this film helped bringthe video game to like a wider
audience.
It's just really became like ithas this cult following.
Now it's like an action horrorhybrid mila yogovic.

(48:52):
Um, just the way that sheportrayed alice um it just I
don't know.
It's just so iconic.
There's zombies, there'smutants, there's this dystopian
setting, it's survival horror.
Um, it just has everything.
Everything that you couldpossibly ever want um out of an

(49:14):
action horror movie is containedin this, this whole franchise.
I mean, I love the entirefranchise.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
So yeah that's my little rant about resident evil
this you guys have to stop me ifI start going too far, because
this is something that you'reunzipping me.
I'm obsessed with resident evil.
I've played almost all of thegames, except for the most
recent ones.
The story is so good becauseit's straight up human
experimentation.
The people that have all themoney trying to find a way to

(49:43):
live forever right, and what dothey do?
They make fucking freaks out ofit and it just becomes this
whole thing and the way like theoutbreak happens and the way it
takes over the world and youget to see like the plague
spread and then you find outthat pretty much everybody is a
superhuman mutant becauseeverybody's been getting
experimented on the whole timeand it's just such a good series
they do so well you're talkingabout the, just the movies, or

(50:05):
the games, or both?
In the movies.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Okay, okay, specifically Okay, just make it
so specific.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Yes, In the games it's very much the same thing.
Like a lot of the charactersyou run into over and over again
, they've been infected in someway by some level of the virus.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Oh, absolutely, and it's very cool.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
It's a very cool game .
Very cool movie.
I love them so much yes, thefirst.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
The first two movies follow the first three games.
Pretty, pretty, damn well um,which I think is like, since I
played, I was a big fan of thegames before the movies came out
, because I want to see thisshit probably 10 years.
We're talking playstation 1here, everything from the dress
to the hive, to the t-virus, tothe corporation, to wesker, just

(50:48):
god damn I'm oh my god, whenalbert wesker comes to the
movies, yes, I slid out of mychair, I hydro plane out of my
chair.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Oh my gosh, he had the sunglasses oh okay.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
So it took me a little time to accept the movies
past the second one.
From being completely honest, II still found them entertaining
, but I needed to be warmed upto them because I am such a
die-hard fan of the video gamesand they changed an insane
amount of shit from like aliceisn't in the games project.
Alice is not in the games, milayogovic is not in the games

(51:22):
whatsoever.
But if there was anything inthose movies that I felt was
flawless, impeccable, perfect,whatever fancy word you want to
put it was him wesker, from theway he looked to the actor's
portrayal, to he was the voicein one of the games, wasn't he?
he was, he was, and then theyswitched him when they did all

(51:43):
the remakes.
He is uh, he's wesker, it'sjust goddamn, I love them so
much.
And nemesis nightmare fuel.
Let's face it, if captainamerica wasn't the exact thing
and this is exactly what itwould, because we would fuck it
up he wouldn't look like chrisevans, no, he would end up being
mutated and all trashed anddeformed and look exactly like
nemesis, because we don't knowwhat it is.

(52:05):
And I also love all the memesand the jokes and the TikToks
that are coming out now whereit's like every Resident Evil
ever you're going through andyou're finding, like the
scientist log, he goes likewe've decided to crossbreed a
gorilla and a T-Rex and adolphin and we gave a chainsaw
for arms and we haven't fed itin four days.
I hope it doesn't escape thenext page.

(52:28):
Dot dot dot, it escaped.
And then you hear like a bang,every fucking game does the same
thing.
It's some video log of someatrocity they've done and we're
like we hope it goes well.
I'm waiting for the time toactually get Morgan Freeman to
go.
It did not go well.
I'm waiting for the time toactually get Morgan Freeman to
go.
It did not go well.
Like every fucking time, itnever goes well.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
I feel like I have to watch these.
I haven't watched any of them.
I just feel like I have to doit, just so I can honor Becca,
just so I can get on her levelof like.
I just want to know, I justwant to be excited about it as
she's excited about it.
Like, yes, I just want to beexcited about it as she's
excited about it Like yes,they're not as scary, it's just
kind of action films.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
I'm not saying that in a bad way, yeah, yeah, so
like if you're like, oh, I'm notbig into like I mean for our
listeners if you're not big intolike monsters are scary and so
on and so forth, just like hangon through the first, like three
, and then it's almost like theFast and Furious where they do
like a genre shift, like afterthe first few, and then it's
just like action shoot-em-upspast, past.

(53:29):
Like the third one.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
I want to say yeah, I think that's a fair assessment.
They are still entertaining.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
They are entertaining .

Speaker 3 (53:36):
I'm still entertained by them, but like, All right.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Becca, you're up.
Okay, this is the one I wrotethe most about, so just bear
with me.
The Blair Witch Project, right?
Yes, so this movie is sodifferent from all of the other
movies you've ever seen.
It wasn't about the best audioequipment, the best cameras,
like getting everything, likethe right angles.

(53:58):
No, this movie it's almost likeit refuses to point the camera
at the plot.
So it basically followsstudents Heather, Mike and Josh.
They're going to make a filmabout a local legend, the
mythical Blair Witch.
They travel to Maryland tointerview locals in a small town
who find the most sketchy andominous ways to tell them that
this place is haunted by like anentity.

(54:20):
Right, they bring up some guyfrom the 40s named Rustin who
would abduct children and murderthem in the dusty ass basement
of his home.
He would kill them in pairs,having one stand in the corner
facing the wall.
That's where, like, the iconicBlair Witch Corner comes from,
and they say he was under theinfluence of the Blair Witch.
There are a couple of otherlike legends about an entity

(54:41):
luring you into the woods.
There are stories about peoplegetting murdered at landmarks
and then when they go back forthe bodies, the bodies are just
gone.
It's very like ritualistic,very witchy, Anyway.
So they go searching through thewoods to find this Blair Witch
right, they're trying to findproof that she exists and it's
one of those things they doreally well by not really
showing.
Is it the locals messing withthem?

(55:02):
Are they going crazy becausethey're lost in the woods or is
there actually an entity chasingthem?
And I think they do a very goodjob of showing how primal fear
gets triggered.
You think about it.
Humans came from the woods, butwith technology and everything
putting them back in the woodswhen they haven't lived in the
wild, like that, it's veryinteresting to see what happens
to the human brain when you'rein that situation.
So I think that this one is toptier.

(55:23):
The imagery of like the stickpeople and the bloody rags and
the rocks, Like it's just all sofucking good.
What do you guys think of thismovie?

Speaker 4 (55:31):
I think it sucks ass.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
No, I think this movie is iconic, especially
because now we're finding outhow the movie was made and the
things they did to the actors.
Essentially, they didn't reallygive them a script, they just
sent them into the forest andlike fucked with them.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
And so give them a script.
They just sent them into theforest and like fucked with them
, and so all their reactions arelike truly real.
And to be clear, uh, I was justdoing that to be a jackass,
because you seemed verypassionate about this one and
you said you're like americanpsycho, so I was just being
stupid and hurtful.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Um, you jackass that me, you're not the first person
in my life to be stupid andhurtful.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I think it's definitely like a movie everyone
has to watch once, because,uh-huh, I think after this movie
came out is when we startedgetting like the so-called like
found footage films afterwardsoh like.
This is like the first of itskind million percent.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Yeah, absolute trendsetters like started the
genre people genuinely thoughtit was real.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
They literally thought this was real when it
came out, because of the waythey marketed it, because of the
shoddy camera work and thepatchy audio.
Like everyone thought this wasgenuinely found footage and I
thought it was so interesting.
It's like it switched the wholeparadigm of making movies.
You don't need a fancy camera,you don't need to go to school
for it.
You just go out into the woodswith your buddies, you have a
movie.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I thought it was really cool.
Well, I think the thing thatgot me with it is the way that
they build it, and they talkedabout how people were so upset
at the movie.
They had people fainting andvomiting and having to leave
because they couldn't sit there,because it was so scary.
And I was so pumped up for thismovie.
I remember taking a day offwork to go see this movie

(57:13):
because I kind of wanted to seeit without, like, a lot of
people in the theater, just so Icould kind of soak it in.
I have to be honest, I was alittle disappointed.
I didn't find it scary, but I doappreciate it for what it is.
I give them all kinds of kudosfor literally carving out a new
genre of movie, but I think thathappens to me a lot.

(57:35):
Movies get hyped up to a pointand then you go in and it's
either not what it's been kindof represented or just the hype
is so big about it that I butI'm also a person that just
doesn't get scared- I also feellike they don't hype movies,
especially horror movies, in thesame way they used to?

Speaker 4 (57:58):
not a chance in hell, absolutely not.
I million percent agree withyou, though that movie was.
Yeah, I remember that peoplesays like people are fainting
and this and that and the otherthing, and screens were stopped
because so many people Iremember hearing about like just
all that people were freakingout and same thing.
When I finally saw it, I waslike oh yeah, no, this is, this
is a spooky movie.
But like them motherfuckers islike nothing but weak sauce.

(58:18):
If you guys are throwing up andlike fainting because of this
movie.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
You know I mean like it has something to do with like
motion sickness.
Like I remember my cousin beinglike no, like I actually like
that movie makes me motion sickbecause the camera is so shaky.
They probably didn't realize itwas of that at the time.
They were like, oh my god, it'sjust so scary that I threw up,
but it was honestly actuallyprobably just because they were
motion sick okay.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
Well, you know what?
We'll even give the benefit ofthe doubt.
We'll say 2000 says the movieis almost 25 years old or it is
25 years old.
I literally never thought aboutthat until right now, when you
just said that good emotionsickness.
Never thought that's all rightnow.
I think that Good with motionsickness Never thought that's
all right now.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
I think that was happening with Exorcist 2 when
it came out.
I think that it just tookpeople a long time to realize
that audio and visuals do havean effect on your brain and like
your center of gravity andstuff like that.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Like it really does.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Vertigo is a very real thing.
Seasickness is a very realthing.
Oh, no, they're just externalfactors, having a hell of a time
messing up your body oh, allright, I'm spinning, my wheel
spinning, we're back to kyle ohshit, let's go with.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
You know we'll save the best for last.
So right now we're gonna say1996 scream because, come on, we
all know, iconic yeah, iconicbefore tiktok and before weird
people with weird obsessions.
It took, it took the genre andit absolutely flipped it on its
head.
You got just just the openingscene alone is, I think, next to

(59:43):
the mask itself.
I think the most iconic thingabout the movie is the opening
scene like you have a, you gotthe big name actress.
It's all playing out like thisis the lead for the whole movie
and he guts her like a fuckingfish.
Like nine minutes into theruntime we got two bodies
completely butchered and wehaven't even seen the title of

(01:00:07):
the movie yet and it set thetone for the movie that you have
no clue what the fuck is gonnahappen and you just gotta accept
it.
You know that when the twistcomes you're not gonna see it
and it's gonna blow your fuckingmind.
I mean, I'll definitely.
I'll say the very first time Isaw that movie I was like get
the fuck, I love it.

(01:00:28):
It's still my favorite scene ofthe movie.
He's up against the door.
He just he slides down the doorthe blood on his hand, looks at
her with that amazing grin andthen just licks his fingers corn
syrup same thing, from carrieand I'm like bro, I love it, I
absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
It's so fucking good yeah and same thing, just the
cast.
Just thinking about that sceneright now.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Yes, ma'am, I do See it, I do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Scream is one of my favorite movie franchises of all
time.
I really like them.
I really like how simple theyare and how it's one of those
things that, because it's sosimple, you can keep retelling
the story over and over again.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
It's so simple, because it's always somebody
else trying to be the copycatand it gets so, but it also gets
so complex.
Exactly, it's just.
It's a meat and potatoes.
There's a killer.
No one knows who it is.
The killer's just hiding inplain sight.
Killers Hiding in plain sight.
And it's just, it's a newcopycat.
It's a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
The only thing that doesn't work in those movies is
Courtney Cox's bangs.
And what is the third one?

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
The only thing that doesn't work out of that whole
franchise.
Only thing that doesn't work isher hair in the third one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
My question is would you consider the Scream
franchise like your comforthorror movies, Like comforting
horror movies?
Me no, me no yeah, anyone, Iguess for anyone like I feel
like you're like it's just sosimple, but it still works like
that's underworld for me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
I'm obsessed with the underworld movies I'm obsessed
with the underworld movies for avery different reason and I
don't know if we're gonna savethat for another episode, but
I'll make an admission I'm gonnasay, okay, it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
It's not kate beckingsale, it's scott speedman
that does it for you, am Iright?

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
You know what is that I get for fucking opening my
mouth.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Yes, that's what you get but are those?

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
are those horror?

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
movies I see.
I see those more as like anaction movie than a horror movie
.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
There's literally monsters and jump scares being
precious OK.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Same with Van Helsing , but would you consider Van
Helsing a fucking horror movie?

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Oh, I love Van Helsing.
Oh, my God.
I would consider it a romancemovie.
I would consider it a horrormovie.
I would consider it an actionmovie.
I would consider it aneverything movie, Any kind of
mood journey.
You can watch Van Helsing andit's going to give you what you
need.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Oh, it gives me something.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Okay, Angie, you're up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Oh God, okay, Talk about a jump scare.
Okay, okay, boo, eh, uh, okay,so all right.
So I am going to save the bestfor last, so I'm gonna go right

(01:03:26):
now with silent hill 2006 morevideo games?
Yeah, I I mean yeah I knowwe're, I know we're going to
talk about pyramid head.
But you know, let's, let's justhold off for a minute.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
We made it through ghost face?
I have.
We made it through ghost face,so I have faith yeah, I'm being
a good girl.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
I am being a good girl I know you're a very good
girl, becca pyramid head is verydifferent.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Say this for effect Becca, you're a very good girl.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Notice how I kept my mouth shut I inked.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
She made me ink.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Anyway, let's get back to Silent Hill.
Yes, take me there, okay.
Oh, seriously, okay, I have totell you.
So I have my lights on a timer.
My room just went completelydark.
Um, so it's a dark, unsettlingmovie.

(01:04:31):
It's based on a video game.
It's like the visuals are socaptivating yeah, they are.
You're drawn into thisnightmarish world.
There's like this psychologicalhorror.
There's mystery.
You know, let's talk about thethemes that it explores.
You know there's themes ofguilt, motherhood, psychological

(01:04:52):
trauma.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Sexual awakening.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Yeah, they have a very loyal fan base.
There's visual and practicaleffects and I think that's why
it really holds up.
Because of the practicaleffects Again, the nightmarish

(01:05:17):
imagery, I mean every every timeyou hear those sirens right,
that that you know that there'sgoing to be some weird shit that
happens and what kind ofmonsters you're going to meet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
And it's like stained up crusty monster with barbed
wire around right it's gonnacome out yeah, yeah, uh, but
yeah, phil.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
So let's feel free to talk about pyramid head,
because, my god, go becca, gobecca.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
the thighs of a legend, the head of a triangle
pyramid head, haunts my dreamsvery much.
So I don't know if it's likethe mask, I don't know if it's
the build or if it's the way hegrabs that woman and throws her
skin at a church, but I've neverbeen more jealous of a corpse
in my life, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
I have Because, like they get to be a corpse and I
got to keep doing this shit.
Oh, dead over here.
Brag about it, you all gottakeep on living.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Oh, look at me, I'm just like lifeless and don't
gotta fucking pay taxes oranything.
I breathe in and out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Oh, no more existential pain like that sucks
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Wow, oh lucky I thought you were gonna say
something oh, don't have to payten dollars for eggs.
I thought you're gonna make anegg joke there for a second
existential, existential.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Fuck me, I'm having an existential crisis I think
all of America is 2025, theexistential crisis.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
You know what the?

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
exorcist.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
The exorcist.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
You know what?
Honestly, pyramid Head don'tsound that bad.
I have more bits of Chalice ofa Corpse in my life.
That was good.
Uh, someone we should all rightspin, spin that bitch I'm
picking becca.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
I'll go last on this one, on this round okay, so for
this one and I wanted to touchon this because one of my other
ones was in, but also now thatkyle has shared one I can say
that three of these movies havebeen featured in the scary movie
franchise, and the one that I'mgoing to do next is the ring
2002.
This is another japanese remakeof a movie I just can't help but

(01:07:45):
think of the thursday movie.
This bitch is messing up myfloor.
The tv's leaking.
The tv's leaking that wholescene.
I was thinking of the girl inthe garage door when you were
talking about scream, anyway.
So the ring cursed videotape,urban legend.
The villain in this one isliterally straight up, just a

(01:08:08):
little girl who was murdered byher parents for being evil.
Um, and she was evil like,don't get me wrong, she was
absolutely pure evil.
But it like metaphorical forcycles of trauma, right, like
the things that you do affectother people, and then the way
to end the curse is to hand offthis cursed videotape to
somebody else.
So you're essentially like theonly way I can stop myself from

(01:08:29):
being hurt is to knowingly hurtsomebody else with it.
And I think it's reallypowerful.
And I like the way that it usesa VHS tape, because for some
reason, humans have this weirdnostalgic weak spot for VHS and
VCRs and old-style TV, and Ithink that this touches on it
really well, because it'ssomething that we all had.
We all had VHS tapes, wewatched the Ring.

(01:08:50):
We look at them a littledifferently after that, don't we
?
Yeah they're haunted.
I especially like the end whenMiss Naomi Watts goes into the
well to confront the Ring girland she's like we're supposed to
think this is like someredeeming moment.
She's reaching out with hermother's heart, right.
She's like all you needed wasacceptance and love and I'm here

(01:09:11):
to give you that.
And the girl's like okay,thanks, cool, like peace.
But then later, like no, I wastricking you bitch.
Like yeah, I'm still gonna killyour whole family LOL.
Jk Straight up like pure evil.
The villain is just pure evil.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
I love the Ring.
I think it has a special placein my heart because the first
time I ever watched the Ring wasalso the first time I ever had
frozen yogurt.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Well, weird flex.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Okay, two amazing things, the Ring and frozen
yogurt.
Who knew they went so welltogether.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
They go together like lamb and puna fish.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
I thought I was going to get to share my human
centipede story.

Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
But no, brooke's story did not go in the
direction I thought it would.
And on that note.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
On that note I am taking over.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
I would like to talk about the saw movies and please,
for the love of god, how muchtime do we have left, because I
am so ready bro, chill.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
We're like an hour and a half into this, yeah you
gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
That was so rude.
I was speaking and you just cutme off my feelings.
You're hurt.
Now what the fuck, kyle?

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
well, this song is so close in whatever he feels like
, it steps on all the women yeah, choke it all.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Right, I'm talking about the song movies more
specifically.
Okay, guys, we know all thesong movies are great.
Okay, all of them are iconic.
But I want to talk aboutspecifically four to seven, with
an honorary shout out to spiral, which is like the newest one.
Um, because of the way thepolice become involved with the

(01:11:03):
jigsaw killer.
Um, obviously, spoiler alertone of the police officers end
up actually he's an fbi agent.
He ends up becoming the newjigsaw killer, but he's such a
brutal jigsaw killer that hedoes not give um the victims a
way out of the traps, like theywill literally die no matter
what.
And I think it just reallyshows how deep police brutality

(01:11:26):
goes, how awful the governmentcan be to us, and especially
with spiral, like the cop is sohot, I was so sad when he was
the new jigsaw killer.
I was like, are you kidding me?
Like officer william shank,like you were jigsaw, like
please put me in your trap,right, like um.

(01:11:50):
But yes, I think that this itwas kind of ahead of its time
and now that or maybe I was justreally young when I was
watching them, but like now thatI'm like, oh, a full adult.
I'm like, oh, yeah, you know,the jigsaw killers are probably
just paying off the police thewhole time what trap do you
think you could survive?
you would you would oh, jesuschrist, every single one of them

(01:12:10):
on?
I don't think any of them.
I think if I was going tosurvive any of them, it would be
the one where they are all tiedup on chains and then they just
have to do a little slice ontheir arm or like wherever, and
it's like on a giant bandsawthat's probably which one I just
saw truck that I want to sit inthe most is the one where that

(01:12:31):
girl gets her ponytail pulled inthe fourth one it's the first
one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
It's the stripper her braid is like hooked in
something it's like slowlyscalping her.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
You're augment anything to do with eyes,
anything to do with eyes, Icouldn't do it.
Anything with cutting a limball the way off, I don't think I
could do it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
So all of them Got it yeah pretty much all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
It would be so boring because I'm not scared to get
hurt and I'm not scared to die.
He would just have nothing todo with me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
I would just be a head on a table like what are we
doing today, boss?
Like it's like masochism.

Speaker 4 (01:13:21):
I love it.
You've seen my results.
You know what I am.
No, I jesus, I yes.
This franchise, this is, thisis my comfort horror franchise,
yeah, every september first.
That's when halloween starts.
For me, halloween is massive,massive, massive for me.
So I'll decorate for halloweenorder, take out all that kind of
fun stuff and I'll just havethe movies playing all day long.
I will and if, like, september1st falls during the week, call

(01:13:43):
out of work to like do it allday to watch.
All this started at I'm notkidding started at like seven,
eight o'clock in the morning,put the first one on and play
every single one of them Back toback to back to back to back
all the way through.
I absolutely love them and theamount of respect that I have
for the first one because of howeverything was stacked against
it.
That movie was from day one onset to filmed and done and start

(01:14:09):
to go to editing 12 days.
That first movie was made witha to editing 12 days With them.
That first movie was made witha million dollars in 12 days,
holy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Wow, I didn't know that it Everyone was.
The movie was announced and itwas released in 11 months.
It was filmed in 12 days, costthem a million dollars and
opening weekend weekend it madelike 50 million.
I think it's still the mostsuccessful low budget movie.
Like the most successful lowbudget horror film in history of

(01:14:43):
like how much money it made tohow much it cost was absolutely
insane.
And just the simplicity of thefirst one they only filmed in.
They filmed in one warehouse,so all the movie was actually
filmed in just the one warehouse.
So like the bathroom scene waslike here and then out in the
hallway, it's like the next roomover from like where the

(01:15:05):
bathroom is.
It was like the workshop wherethey go running and like chasing
and like all the shotguns areup above which like it kills
danny glover's partner and allthat shit.
It's literally the next room inthe same hallway.
When they open the door thereat the end it's that hallway
that he goes running down intoand then it's just the next
level up.
That's what makes that movie somuch more amazing to me,
because it seems so complex, butit's really what's done in a

(01:15:27):
weekend I love the song.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
I'm right there with you, kyle, where you say it's
your comfort movies Like 100%.
If I ever need like a cozyweekend, I'm throwing on the Saw
movies.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
I will say that, and hostile are kind of in the same
vein for me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
No, not hostile.
I'm never going to Germanybecause of hostile.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Fucking love.
Hostile, like when the kids arekicking that head head around
using it for a soccer ball.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
So fucking gross.
I'm such a morbid fuck.
I love those movies so much.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
They're so good I almost threw up watching the
second one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
I couldn't even bring myself to watch the third one.
I was like holy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Oh, the third one is so good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
Oh, it really is.
Is the third one, the one withall the really rich people and
they're taking the.
That's the third one, right?

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah, where the one that they take is really rich
too.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Yep, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Oh yeah, the second one is where one of the girls
with like a trust fund baby andher two friends get ringed and
she like buys her way out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
That's the second one .
That's the second one.
Yeah, that's the one where shecuts his dick off at the end,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
I'll remember the second one until I die yep that
was my end game like I stood upin the theater and clapped yeah
yeah that was oh god, yeah, ohfuck.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
It's been a long since I've seen those movies.
Nah, if you don't do, if youlike gore and disgusting
horrendously, just yeah.
Those movies are all fun andgames and whatnot, but sci-fi,
horror, event horizon that isthe goriest, most grotesque,

(01:17:09):
horrendous, horrific movie Ithink I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
Oh my God, Just oh my God.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Okay, Empty's up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
All right, well, save the best for last.
I love this movie so much it'siconic, and I know what's going
to happen after I say this, solet's just get it all out of our
system.
Silence of the Lambs.
Becca, put the lotion in thebasket.
Hard fuck me.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
Hard, fuck me so hard .

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Is she a great big fat girl?

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
That's the best line and no, that's totally how I
answer the door man.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
I'm totally Buffalo Bill when I answer the door, so
I'm just like unhinged andconfusing again, another fun
tactic for the J-dubs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
Also, again, another fun tactic for the J-dubs.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Jesus, Also also you want to come and fill the
kitchen while I look for abusiness card.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Don't mind the moths, but the reason that I think
this is absolutely a classicwill stand up in 50 years.
People will still be talkingabout this movie and it's just
that dynamic between clarice andhannibal it's.
There's so many layers to itthe tension, the suspense, the

(01:18:43):
procedural elements that youhave the psychological kind of
thriller and horror.
Um, yeah, just so many thingsabout that movie is just iconic.
You know, the hello clarice,you know he never says that whoa
huh, he never says hello,clarice is this

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
a mandela effect.
I was gonna say are we goingdown a mandela right now?

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
he never says hello clarice ever.
It's good evening, how are youyou?
He says other, he has otherones, but he never says hello
Clarice.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
What?
What do you covet, Clarice?

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
He says her name plenty of times, but he never
says hello, Clarice.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
I've heard that it's like the Luke, I am your father
thing.
That's not really what he says.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
It's not, he says I am your father.
He never says Luke, I am yourfather.
He just says no, I am yourfather.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Okay.
Well, fuck me then Fake fan,anyway, fake fan.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Anyway, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Anyway.
Actually, my favorite line is Iate his liver with fava beans
and a nice canteen.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
There it is, yes, yes , that's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
He was a shitty flute player, right Like.
That's literally why he atethis guy because he played flute
bad.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Yep, yep.
That's exactly why he fucked upthe one note.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
He goes to an orchestra and he's like
listening, and this guy fucks upa note.
So he invites them all todinner and just eats one of them
.
Yep, the one who fucked up.
He's a man of culture, Brooke.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
I love him for that honestly, he's ridding the
prince of the untalented.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
I think my favorite line is when it's in their first
meeting and she's walking downthat hallway and there's all the
horrendous, there's the other,absolutely horrendous people and
there's the one guy who justgoes right.
And so there's that.
And so hannibal asks hersomething.
I forget how it is, how itcomes up, but she says that.

(01:20:46):
She says with her absolutelyhorrendous voice just I can
smell your cunt, is like how shefucking tells him and he, just
he makes a face like oh, and helike lifts his head up like
towards the holes in the window.
She goes like you literally gowell, I for one cannot.
So that's relief.
I was like what the fuck?
That's my favorite fucking line, holy shit, you know know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
It's so great, it's so fucking great.
But you know, hannibal was soangry that that guy said that
and then when he threw the stuffon her that he psychologically
tortured himself into killinghimself.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
If he wanted to, he would, ladies Right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
It just oh, my goodness.
So then the fact that and onceagain it just goes to show the
true tell of an amazing actor ishow well they can play a crazy
person and the fact that hopkinshad said that his inspiration,
people asked was like oh, whichserial killer did you read up on
?
And think like, and so on andso forth.
He goes like oh, did you readup on Dahmer Gacy, or whatever.

(01:21:58):
And he goes like well, no,because they're not like that.
He's his own person, he's hisown thing, and so on and so
forth.
But I just thought that he was.
He's a human embodiment of thecross between a crocodile and a

(01:22:18):
spider.
Oh, what the fuck, that is whatthat man said.
He said I tried to if a humanhad the mental and physical
capabilities of a crocodile anda spider.
That is what I did, and I waslike this man is completely
insane and I am so for it.
And then fast forward a fewyears and marvel calls me, says
hey, you want to play odin?
And he said that sounds lovely,like what's going on, like I

(01:22:44):
absolutely love it, that's justthe how did you play such a
crazy person?

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
step one, I'm crazy who knew.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
Honorable mention to.
Honorable mention to madsmigelson for the hannibal show,
though he's the only person thatis anthony hopkins equal for
that character I liked, I likedthe guy in hannibal rising too,
though I liked that guy I likedthe movie.
I just, yes, it's somethingabout it felt and like red
dragon was pretty good, but alsovery you didn't like red dragon

(01:23:11):
yeah I was so mad when thatthat series got canceled, so mad
like therewas so much they could have done
with that yeah, and plus thefact that mads nicholson is on
my hear me out list, like hearme out, hear me out, hear me out
.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
My hear me out is Hannibal Lecter.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
And Pyramid Head.
That's not a hear me out, Idon't need to explain myself
with that one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Okay, so Hear me out.
The genre of zombies in thezombie movies.
None of them would exist, evenmy personal favorite, shaun of
the Dead.
None of them would be a thingwithout Night of the Living Dead
.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
People think it was the first zombie movie.
It was not the first zombiemovie.
I think the first one was WhiteZombie.
It's like 1930s.
I think it was a silent movie.
It doesn't matter.
Night of the Living Dead is theblueprint of the zombie movie.
That's where we got theinfamous brains and, like the,

(01:24:18):
the, the, no pun intended, butthe dead eyes.
We're coming to get you, barbaraexactly, exactly so much of
that that is associated with thezombie, with with the worms and
with the brain coming out andthem literally saying brains and
just kind of moving slowly withtheir arms out and that
sloshing back and forth.
The horde, the actual terror,the scratch, the bite.

(01:24:39):
There's nothing you can do andthere's one, but then there's
just so many of them.
The one shot that always standsout to me is just the arm
coming out of the ground andliterally crawling out of the
grave.
Same thing.
It has set its place in popculture for decades.
I would say that it's going tofor us for centuries.

(01:25:02):
It will the same.
How many movies can you think ofof that?
The arm reaching out of thegrave or breaking through from
the ground and so on and soforth.
It, that shot, is directreference to night of the living
dead and it's I mean yeah,there's not much more on the
list is the fact that it it is.
It is the tolkien of the zombiegenre.

(01:25:24):
We wouldn't have the fantasygenre without tolkien.
We would not have the zombiegenre without night of the
living dead.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
There's no way way, I like Night of the Living Dead
just fine.
It's a great movie.
They did a lot with what theyhad and I think like it shows a
lot for what you can do withpractical effects and things
like that.
It's the second or the thirdone that sticks in my brain,
though, with the dogs that arecut in half that turn into
zombies.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
I just appreciate that.
The second one.
They're like flop.
The second one came out.
The second one came out quite afew years I think it was like
mid 70s.
It got the bigger budget.
It had the name behind it, thatone was in color and so, okay,
we can make shit over the topnow because we have.
We have the movies that we haveto keep up with.
I want to say it was oh no, no,hellraiser came out in the 80s,

(01:26:09):
whatever.
There was other gorier moviesthat they had to keep up with
and that's what the peoplewanted.
They wanted that grotesque.
Like I said, the second onegave us Tar man and the Dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Yeah, tar man and the Dogs, that's a cool band name.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
That's a fucked up band name Tar man and the Dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Tar man and the Dogs.
We're howling tonight, boys.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
No, it's just brains, that's.
It sounds like a metal band.
No, it's like a.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
It's like an indie song it's like a soft indie rock
band, you know, okay.
So one thing about the secondone that I thought was cool was
they actually had a scene wherethey have a zombie strapped to
the table and they're like, whatthe fuck do you guys want?
And she's like we're literallyjust in so much pain that eating
you guys is the only thing thatmakes it not hurt anymore.
Yeah, pretty much pretty muchfeel so bad for it you do
zombies can talk.

Speaker 4 (01:26:59):
This one did yeah, wow yeah, well, I don't remember
shit.
Does she talk or is this likesome type of just like a weird?

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
oh yeah, it's not like a full-blown conversation
like that one, but essentiallythe zombies are different in
this one because the way itspreads in this is they
literally burn one of the bodiesfrom the first one and the
smoke goes into the clouds andseeds like zombie rain, yep, and
when it rains, the people getrained on, turn into zombies and
like the graveyard.
People come to life like it'sthe whole thing.

(01:27:28):
The movie's fucked up, butnight of the living dead is
instant classic.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
You're absolutely right yeah, oh yeah, so the shit
.
Why did I forget about thatzombie rain, shit?
But yeah, no, yeah, it's likewhat is it?
Because we just they, they justhaven't.
Um, she more or less explainsto them, is that there is just
like a a never-ending hunger andthere's like just a

(01:27:52):
never-ending pain, and it comesfrom hunger.
They're not even like angry orrage, they're literally just
hungry, and eating them is theonly thing that satisfies the
satiates, it makes it all goaway until it doesn't, and so
sorry, but you know I don't wantto feel in pain and you work
faster than aspirin, so toughshit.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
I wonder why zombies never get fat.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
I think she also talks about like the fact that
their blood isn't moving, andit's like really painful on the
body, like their organs aren'tfunctioning, and that's painful
on the body.
It's like, yeah, it's like awhole thing, yeah, the rest of
the body is dead, the rest oftheir body is dead, and that
works.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
There's no blood circulation, so they're not
really digesting the food orbreaking it down, it's just the
actual physical um gnawing andkneading and so like.
There's like almost nonutrients being absorbed,
because the rest of the onlything that's working is their
brain.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
Is the brain the one part?

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
yeah, it's like their motor functions and their need
to eat exactly so, like theyfeel hungry, though they never
feel full.
So that's why they're alwaysdoing it.
Yeah, it does take, it gives.
Yeah, it makes you feel very,very bad for zombies.
It really does.
And then you know, then there'slike a horde of them and they
try to eat you and your dog andyou're like you know what you

(01:29:07):
and your half dog I don't carehow bad I feel for you, I don't
want to get eaten.
Define Never mind Jesus.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Okay, I did not save the best for last.
However, I did save my mostcontroversial for last.
I will want to talk about theEvil Dead remake the 2013 one.
That movie is so fucking metal.
I know a lot of people hate it.
They're like this is not asgood as the original one.

(01:29:39):
Whatever remakes always getshit on.
But I picked this movie becauseI think that the graphics, the
makeup, the cgi, everythingabout how the movie was made is
so fucking horrifying.
It scares the shit out of meevery single time I watch it.
If I actually want to getscared, I will literally watch
that movie because it's awful.
It's so scary, and not onlythat, but like the movie's kind

(01:29:59):
of short but so much happens init in such a small period of
time that it seems so long,because it's just like shock
factor after shock factor aftershock factor, like it's a crazy
movie and a lot of people hateon it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
And I don shock factor, like it's a crazy movie
and a lot of people hate on it,and I don't think it deserves to
get hated on, absolutely not.
There's only one remake that Ithink is that is actual dog shit
, um, and it ain't that one.
I, I think it's just as good.
I think it's just as good, um,different, absolutely um, but I
think I, I personally, would putit right on par with the
original Evil Dead.
And you're right, I think theone scene in that movie that
sticks out with me is what thehell is her name when she's

(01:30:41):
trying to climb back up from thebasement and it's just like her
head sandwiched between thedoor and the floor.
Oh, my god the voice, whateverfucking voice effect they put on
her.
Yeah, nightmares, absolutenightmares, Chilling on my spine
.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Honestly, like literally, I'm getting like
flashes of that movie in mybrain right now and I'm like, oh
, like, I'm actually horrified.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
And like they go running outside and it is
literally raining blood outside.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
The movie's so.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
God, that movie's so goddamn metal.
It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
It's a crazy movie.
Or like she's like in theshower and she like turns the
the water all the way up andshe's like loving that.
It's like burning her skinbecause she's just so fucking
possessed yeah, amazing movie,that movie I have a weird
relationship to these movies.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
I was a like a theater nerd and one year we did
ash versus evil dead in mytheater and I was a big like
effects person and my job forthat was literally to just dump
buckets of blood down on people.
Like literally I was likemixing buckets backstage, like I
needed like 20 before we couldgo on oh my god, I actually wish

(01:31:47):
I saw that it was very carrie.
I was seriously like up intheir rafters with buckets, like
waiting for my cues I've notseen ash versus evil dead.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
I feel like I need to watch it.
It's a play.
It's a play, but they did likea netflix tv show too about it,
I think I think yeah, they didyep, very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
That leaves you if I get hate for any of them, it's
gonna be this one.
I'm already, I can already hearit.
Yep, very interesting, becca.
That leaves you.
If I get hate for any of them,it's going to be this one.
I can already hear it.
Not a horror movie, lake Placid, not a horror movie?

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Don't tell me Lake.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Placid isn't a horror movie.
I won't stand for it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
That's got a big mass on it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
If you're going, to comment down below that this
movie isn't scary.
I'm going to challenge you totag me, me in a video of you
rolling up your khakis and piggydipping in the everglades for
four hours.
Murky water is scary.
Big, scaly people, hungrycrocodiles are fucking scary.
It's an instinctual fear and Ithink that this movie does a
really good job of showing it.
Um, basically, we have a surgeof reptile aggression and, long

(01:32:47):
story short, we find out thatbetty white, the husband
murderer, has been feedingcrocodiles and encouraging their
naughty behavior.
So it's between the chemistryof the cast and the way these
crocodiles seem to have almostexpert timing, whether it's
foiling their plans or beingreally fucking funny themselves.
It checks all the boxes.

(01:33:08):
It's casting chemistry,realistic plot.
It's campy, but I don't thinkthat campy is a flaw.
I think that you can be cheesy,charming and chilling, and Lake
Placid is that Am.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
I Lake Placid.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
I fucking wish you were Lake Placid.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
I've never seen Lake Placid, but I did a quick little
Google search and it does sayit is a horror film.
Hell, yeah, yeah.
So you are right, it's so good.
Hell, yeah, yeah so you areright.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
It's so good.
I love it.
I recommend it.
There's this guy that'ssupposed to be like an expert on
catching crocodiles and all hedoes is get trapped in the trap
the whole time.
Every single time, every singletime it's like a second plot
device.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
He's always getting caught in the trap.
And I fucking love the endwhere you know Betty's sitting
on the end of the pier andthere's three little babies
coming to get their little meal.
It's like, yeah, betty White,iconic.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
Great movie.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
I absolutely love it, you know?
Hell yeah, anyone who says thatmovie's not a horror movie can
eat all the dicks.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Yeah, my husband beat me, so I killed him Honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:34:11):
Betty White, whatever you decide to do, he's not a
horror movie.
Can like yeah, my husband beatme so I killed him.
Honestly, betty white, whateveryou decide to do, I'm not a
wood chipper and gave him to thecrocodile probably didn't even
have to, uh, put him in the woodchipper before feeding him to
the crocodiles.
I don't know why she, shechewed.
She got them all chewed up forthem like a little like wet food
.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
It's like crocodile wet food it's like alpo, alpo
crocodile, oh shit, what did you?
What'd you think of the other,like four or five, that they
made?

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
I don't acknowledge that those ones exist.
Lake placid the original is theone that I watched fair enough,
are they good?
Huh, have you watched them?
Oh, absolutely, are they goodfuck?

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
no, thank you, they might as well, they might as
well be comedies, like I thinkthey are bad, like I think they
were made as bad as they are onpurpose.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Yeah, yeah, kind of like Sharknado.

Speaker 4 (01:35:16):
Yeah yeah, sharknado doesn't take itself serious but
like.
But like you know there wasn'tlike.
Like Lake Placid takes itselfserious like a horror.
It's got a couple of funny bits, but like it takes itself
serious as a horror film.
And then the second one to like, the fifth one or the sixth one
.
It's just, yeah, it's justshtick and satire and like jesus

(01:35:40):
, there's been that many I, yeah, I think there's lake placid
two, three, and then theystarted kind of.
Then there was like the finalchapter and like something else,
and then they tried to do likea, a reboot or remake.
That tried to take itselfserious like legacy or like
origins or whatever the hell itwas.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
Oh my god games like dangerous oh my god, the
cabela's shooting range gameslove most dangerous hunt so much
like.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Please let me play Most Dangerous Hunt right now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
I need to play it, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Guys, this has been our Movies that Held Up
Surprisingly Well podcast,specifically horror movies.
Once again, we were joined bythe non-birthday boy, kyle,
angie and my buddy Brooke.
Once again, happy birthday totheresa and thank you everybody.
If you enjoyed this, pleasemake sure you give us a comment
down below rate and subscribewherever you get podcasts, and

(01:36:40):
remember we come out with a newepisode every single monday and
if you don't watch it, I'mcoming for you she's coming for
you, like the horror moviecharacters will come for you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
No, I meant.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
I meant the other way , oh, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
We don't care if you fucking listen to this or not.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
Yeah, I don't give a fuck if you listen, alright.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Goodbye my love, bye, bye.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
It's time for you to say goodbye, Kyle.

Speaker 4 (01:37:09):
Bye Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
Good job, kyle Good job, kyle, good job.

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