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May 12, 2025 24 mins

In this deeply moving episode, we delve into the heart-wrenching stories of Sheila Albers and Narene Stokes Crosby, two mothers from different racial backgrounds united by a shared, devastating loss. Sheila's 17-year-old son John was tragically shot by police in 2018, while Narene's 24-year-old son Ryan faced a similar fate in 2013. Despite the differences in their stories, these mothers have transformed their grief into powerful advocacy for racial justice, police reform, and better mental health care. Join us as they share their painful journeys and the impact on their families, revealing the stark realities of policing in America. This episode touches on the universal language of parental grief and the unyielding fight for systemic change.

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