Finding Joy Amidst Anxiety

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When happiness breaks through anxiety, do you grab it with both hands? That precious moment of joy becomes something to savor, especially when the mind constantly works against you. In this soulful conversation, Shane Murphy opens up about the internal battle between finding creative fulfillment and maintaining financial security.

Shane's journey from self-described loner to partner reveals how love transforms perspective. "Everything is so much freer and I feel so much more confident and supported," he shares, describing how his relationship with Erica provides a foundation that makes pursuing creative passions less daunting. The genuine warmth between these two friends—who first bonded performing as the Bee Gees in a musical revue—creates space for vulnerable admissions about career fears and artistic dreams.

The heart of their discussion explores that universal struggle many artists face: how do you honor your soul's calling while paying the bills? Shane's anxiety about leaving his finance job to pursue music fully resonates with anyone who's felt trapped between security and passion. Meanwhile, Dom shares practical approaches to organizing creative pursuits, suggesting that accomplishing just three career-focused tasks daily builds momentum without overwhelming.

Their conversation weaves through mindfulness practices, overcoming self-doubt, and finding joy in focused activities from painting miniatures to practicing scales. The most poignant moments come when they acknowledge how easily we talk ourselves out of opportunities before even trying. "Just email them," Shane realizes about potential collaborators. "People want nobody comes to this show to see you mess up."

Listen for their spontaneous, soul-stirring rendition of Sam Cooke's "Bring It On Home To Me"—a perfect demonstration of the talent and connection that makes this friendship special. Whether you're wrestling with anxiety, balancing practicality with dreams, or simply seeking more intentional joy, this episode offers both comfort and gentle challenge to take that first small step forward.

Guest: Shane Murphy AKA @theshanemurphy

Opening quote: Roy T. Bennett

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Featured song : "Bring it on home to me" Covered by Dom L'Amour and Shane Murphy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
kind of free and loosey-goosey with my speech,
and all that just because Ithink I spend a lot of time
being anxious.
So anytime I can this sounds socorny but just like smile and
enjoy myself.
I don't like to waste it,because it's really precious.
Like when you're fightingagainst yourself, that's like
one of the most important thingsyou can have.
Is just like I just need to behappy for a little bit, like I

(00:21):
need to reflect on my life.
I need to reflect on everything.
I need to reflect on how thethings that are making me
anxious and sad a lot of themare chemical.
So it's like how do you, whenyou have like one of those
episodes or something, talkyourself off a ledge and go oh,
my body just produces too muchof the stress chemical.
I just need to like zone out,think about nothing and focus on

(00:45):
a task, and so that's why a lotof my hobbies end up being
myself.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Ladies and gentlemen, and anyone else who is here.
My name is Dom L'Amour and youare listening to the Black man
Talking Emotions podcast.
On today's episode, I have myguy, shane Murphy, and we talk
about love, anxiety, focusing onideas and so much more.
It's difficult to live in andenjoy the moment when you are

(01:23):
thinking about the past orworrying about the future.
You cannot change your past,but you can ruin the present by
worrying about your future.
I haven't had you on the pod yetand I'm very thrilled to have
you here, because I feel like wehave a great bond and we really

(01:45):
got close when we met eachother through the production we
were in, and it's always nice tohave people on the pod that I
have worked with but also amreally really good friends with.
So I appreciate you taking thetime to talk, and I just want to
start somewhere.
I'm not sure how often you talkabout this, so I'm excited to
kind of throw it at you reallyquick.
I want to start with you anderica.

(02:06):
Did y'all meet before the showwe were in as well, or did y'all
meet during that show?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
yes.
So the first time that ericaand I met so we got three shows
at the strand theater in a rowwith each other.
So it was kind of like a like adestined by fate thing almost.
I mean, it wasn't, wasn't, butthe circumstances were pretty
spectacular.
As far as they go, we did aChristmas show together.
That was the first time I'dever worked at the Strand, yeah,

(02:34):
and it was very, very danceheavy that show, and I am an
awful dancer, which I'm sure youcan attest to.
So I was nervous.
I was trying not to look likean idiot in front of everybody.
I was trying to trying to keepit moving.
I'm like, if it's somethingfunny or if it's something that
needs to be sung really, reallyhigh I'm great at that, but
other than that, I'm just tryingto keep in line.

(02:55):
I actually didn't talk to ericamuch during that first thing,
like just very, very small, likeoh, what do you think of this
curtain?
Yeah, this curtain's weird,okay, well, see you.
Anyways, back to the show, andthat's about as much as we spent
.
Yeah, avabeejee's is when I uhstarted to sort of get the get
the bug for I was like oh, she'suh, she's really, really sweet

(03:16):
and she's really funny and she'sreally nice.
And also, for some reason,we're singing the same vocal
part in this show.
Yeah, what if we just like siton this couch and go vocal parts
together, you know?
Yeah, that's a soprano linetreating you.
That's doing pretty good.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I always like those kind of first moments in
relationships because it's veryinnocent and it's all about
energy, like something that Inoticed and I know everyone
always does.
This is like I knew it.
I knew it.
Everybody don't be knowing, butin this scenario I'm not going
to say that I knew y'all weregoing to get together, but I saw

(03:52):
the chemistry very early.
There was a time where we allwent and got food.
Do you remember that?
We went and got food after ahorrible rehearsal at a bar.
Do you remember that time?

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yes, I absolutely remember.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
There's one particular time where it was
horrible and we went and gotsomething to eat at this bar and
hung out in between, or was itafter rehearsal?
I think it was after rehearsal.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, it was our lunch break.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, and when we got back, I remember the whole time
we were there we were vibing,it was a great conversation.
But I just was like huh, that'ssomething right there.
But I didn't press any of it.
But I was very happy to seey'all actually make it official.
I actually didn't press anythingeither, which was the issue

(04:50):
issue and before we move toanything else, I just would love
to see you reflect on the waysthat Erica's helped you maybe
change or helped you moveforward in life.
Just give me a kind of overviewof the dynamic of the
relationship and what you feelshe helps you with.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Of course, I've actually been kind of thinking
about that a lot lately thisyear.
I am fortunate enough to have asafe, cheap place to live with
all my friends.
I got my lady in lock.
She's there for me all the time.
We live together.
We have our little spats everynow and then, but they've all
been really, really kind andthey've been about understanding

(05:22):
problems and it's like like man.
The world is just so much moreopen to me now.
Now I'm just like man.
All that stuff I was worriedabout is kind of not completely
figured out, but mostly figuredout.
So, yeah, I need to startlooking at my art and like what
I do at my job and like what'snot making me happy there.
And man, it's just having allof that taken care of.
Just having somebodyinequivocally in your corner is

(05:46):
just.
Your perspective changescompletely, like everything is
so much freer and I feel so muchmore confident and supported.
I think that's what a lot ofthis year is probably going to
be.
It's just falling in love withErica has, I think, given me a
position in my life that I'venever been in before, feeling
safe and comfortable, which Ihave a lot of anxiety.

(06:07):
So that's a very new experiencefor me.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I feel like that's something that I've noticed with
my relationship with Adrianearly on as well, where I start
noticing things around me thataren't good because of things
being so good in my own littleworld.
Our world is perfect, we'veworked on everything, we've
talked through things.
If something happens, we fix itand we can move forward.
But then I look outside of thatworld and I'm like, oh, this is

(06:35):
unstable out here for somereason.
What are all these negativethings from out here?
It's because people aren'tcommunicating properly out there
.
Okay, okay, and it really itdoes make life a lot better when
you have somebody who you cantalk to, who is going to be on
the same page as you, who iswilling to do the work to create

(06:59):
a positive relationship.
And, like I said, man, it'sjust, it's a real thrill to
watch you two together,especially when we're like at
parties or when y'all came tothe jam session, which I
appreciate.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
So good.
I hope to attend many more inthe future.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
We're going to do our thing, man.
It just, it just really reallywarms my heart when a friend is
able to find someone and thenwhen two friends find someone
and it's each other, that justreally helps me with my selfish.
My friends are happy and I waswith them when they got together
, kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Isn't that special when two of your friends fall in
love, two people you haveintimate history with, and
you're like, oh, I know both ofyou guys.
Both of you guys are so sweetand nice and it's so cool that
we don't have to find out fiveyears down the line that, like
this dude like hits rabbits witha hammer.
It's like, oh, people you loveare there for each other and

(07:57):
they found each other.
And you're like, oh man, I getto watch this.
This rules.
This is sick.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
With that being said, pivoting a little bit more to
what I want to talk about,because you're a performer, so
we move around the city.
You do work with yoursignificant other a lot on
different gigs, or maybe youhave your gigs that you work
together but then you do yourother gig, and separately, as
performing artists.
How do you feel that dynamicworks, actually being with
someone who is also a performer?
I remember in college I wasalways very negative towards

(08:28):
dating other, like actors andsingers, cause I was like we're
in the same class as this andthat.
And of course, I slipped up andhooked up with people in the
department and had that dramaand stuff.
But I would always preach don'tpractice, don't shit where you
eat, like you want to be able toenjoy this space and then go

(08:49):
out of that space with yoursignificant other.
How is it for you to be in aplace with someone that's
incredible, but they also are inyour same field and you end up
working together sometimes?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
See, it was interesting in the beginning
because we got all those showstogether before we were dating
and so it was just this likecrazy friendship where we would
just hang out and have theseincredible conversations and
sort of dates in parentheses.
Now that we are dating and wefinally booked some shows
together and stuff.
It's interesting because I wasone of the named characters in

(09:21):
this recent thing and she wasone of the ensemble.
Because I was one of the namedcharacters in this recent thing
and she was one of the ensemble,so we were, for all intents and
purposes, on stage together inthe same room, but we would
barely see each other duringrehearsal.
Yeah, and I thought that wasthe craziest thing on the planet
, just because our tracks wereso insanely different.
It was nice.
It was like, oh, I get to go andpal around with all these
people, but my girlfriend's alsothere.

(09:42):
So when I'm like sick oftalking to all these new people,
I get like exhausted orsomething.
I can talk to my person whodoesn't care what I say.
I can just be like what do youthink of this number, what do
you think of this thing?
And it was very nice to havethat built in to where, if
you're feeling anxious orsomething, you can just go hang

(10:02):
out with your girlfriend andsort of deconstruct it all.
I'm sort of taking a break fromthese at the beginning of this
year just because I'm trying toget back into more music stuff,
yeah, and so she's still sendingoff auditions and things.
So I'm hoping that she can booksomething and I can get some
time back at home to where I canlike plunk around on my guitar,
look around some music theory,and she can get to be like the
star of her little thing and ourschedules can kind of switch
because as of right now we'rejust around each other all the

(10:22):
time, which is surprisingbecause before I was dating
people I like I'm one of themost like solo people ever.
Like I love my own company, Ilove to hang out with myself.
The just kind of meeting herhas made me so much more social
and accepting of being aroundother people and stuff and I
think that's probably the mostinteresting evolution to the way
I approach art and sort of thecommunity now.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
When you say that you are like the most to yourself.
Why do you feel that, likeyou're that way, you just enjoy
your own space and you're coolwith who you are?
Do you not really like engagingwith other people or like how
does that work?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
A lot of my hobbies are like I like to just sort of
like zone out and really focuson them and like I recently got
into like painting miniaturesfor tabletop games and stuff and
so I'll turn on like music,I'll listen to that and I'm like
I need to listen to this song acouple of times.
So I'll just like turn on likean artist discography or
something and I'll worry aboutlike painting my little figure

(11:18):
or something.
Or I'll put on like a videogame and put on my headphones
and do that.
A lot of my stress is caused byother people just because, like
, I really like being kind offree and loosey goosey with my
speech and all that just becauseI think I spend a lot of time
being anxious.
So, anytime I can this soundsso corny but just like smile and
enjoy myself.

(11:38):
I don't like to waste it becauseit's really precious.
Like when you're fightingagainst yourself, that's like
one of the most important thingsyou can have is just like I
just need to be happy for alittle bit.
Like I need to reflect on mylife.
I need to reflect on everything.
I need to reflect on how thethings that are making me
anxious and sad a lot of themare chemical.

(11:58):
So it's like, how do you, whenyou have like one of those
episodes or something, talkyourself off a ledge and go oh,
my body just produces too muchof the stress chemical.
I just need to, like, zone out,think about nothing and focus
on a task, and so that's why alot of my hobbies end up being
myself.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
So like going into theater, which is largely a
community-based art form.
That's where I kind of use mycommunity hours at yeah because
those are the people that I dolike to be around, because I
work in finance is like my nineto five which we'll see how that
goes in the coming year butthey talk about a lot of stuff
that I'm not really interestedin.

(12:37):
Like I've never been somebodywho's really cared about busy
work and all that kind of stuff.
Like I truly do not care if thestock market lives or dies, but
you do have to financiallysupport yourself, you do have to
find ways to get from point Ato point B, and so when that all
kind of stresses me out, myhobbies are usually the things
that I kind of turn towards.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Shane and I met each other on a production in June of
2022.
Actually, we started in May forrehearsals.
It was a ABBA BGs review showin Marietta, georgia, here, and
Shane and I were the BGs prettymuch.
It was a very interesting show.

(13:22):
I was trying my best to getinto acting and doing more
performances but it was ablessing in disguise because
with me doing this show Iactually met the person who
introduced me to the guy whowould set that feeling of.
I met someone that I clickedwith strongly Shane and Erica

(13:49):
and her friend Allie.
All of us was really cool.
That was like our little clickand even with that, it was some
people from that show.
To this day I still work withmy girl, kaylin Bovell.
She was on the podcast.
I met her in that production.
It was just an incredible time.
I was still new to Atlanta.
I wanted to meet more people.
I was willing to drive 50 milesa day to go rehearse there just

(14:14):
because it was an opportunityto do something with someone new
in a new part of town.
And I got on stage and, like Isaid, I wanted to do more acting
.
But these shows I was inback-to-back reviews because
people were like you sing reallywell and I was like, okay, okay
, are you doing normal shows?
And they're like, no, we'redoing singing shows.
So Shane and I sat down andreally collaborated and created

(14:36):
our own version of what wewanted the Bee Gees songs to be
like and it was unique to us andI felt like it showed off our
personalities and we got to growtogether as artists.
It was a really incredibleevent for the city of Marietta.
The people who came out to theStrad really supported us, sold
us out every other night and Iwas so thrilled.

(15:03):
I would love to go back, but youknow I'm working a lot now and
so going to that would mean Iwould have to have to really be
willing to to let some money go.
But I do miss being on stageand doing theater and I do
appreciate working with peoplelike Shane.
Shane is such a talented singer, incredible person, and I'm
just happy to have hisfriendship.
I'm happy that he took time tobe out on the podcast with me

(15:23):
today.
I'm happy that he took time tobe out on the podcast with me
today and I look forward tosinging more tunes with him in
the future and hopefully we canrecreate some of those memories
we made on the stage as the BGsback in 2022.
So shout out to Shane Murphy andlet's get back into the episode
.
And let's get back into theepisode.

(15:49):
I'm curious to know, like someof those hobbies other than the
miniatures you're doing, likewhat other things do you know?
I was at your house and so Ikind of know, but I would love
to hear things that you holdnear and dear and feel help you
escape, because that's what itsounds like hold near and dear
and feel, help you escape.
Because that's what it soundslike a lot of them.
It's kind of an escape to kindof just relax and get away from
the stress and not feel likeyour job sounds stressful.

(16:12):
So that's another reason whyyou try to get away from stress
yeah it's, it's insanelystressful for what it is.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
and now that, uh, I'm here kind of with erica I'm
noticing that again because likewe'll both come home and
something like it's like oh yeah, we caused a cybersecurity
alert at work and it's likehow'd you do that by sending one
email wrong?
And no real human should haveto kind of deal with that kind
of stress with such minoractions.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
As of right now, I'm just trying to fall back in love
with singing, because the onething that I've always been
really really confident about ismy ability to sing really,
really well, and it's like yougot to talk yourself up in a
couple things like I I hatebeing like haughty and up my own
ass and all that.
Like I love to be humble of allthings, like paul rudd says in

(17:01):
uh anch, hey, we're all the sameinside, stinky and pink.
I'm sorry, I'm actively turningdown the class on your podcast.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
We've talked about classless stuff in the past.
It's not a big deal.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
No, but I'm trying to really, really hone in my
singing based upon all that,just so I can, no matter what
issues I have with putting inthe work and bringing emotion to
songs and all that, when peoplehear me sing, I want them to go
.
Oh, that guy's a contender.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Like that guy came to play.
He is not screwing around withthis he came to give us a
performance that we're going toremember because I'm just trying
to practice with it every day.
I'm trying to make it better,I'm trying to get it like
consistent, which is, I think,one of the hardest parts about
things.
Is just like getting thingsconsistent isn't fun.
It's not like learning a newsong.

(17:55):
It's not like hitting that highnote for the first time.
It's like now we're doing thework part of this.
Like I want other people to beable to work well with me.
Uh, I, I see you up on this,that stage, with like your uh,
ipad and all that, and you lookat it from time to time, but you
have most of them memorized andI respect that deeply.
I'm trying to get on that level.
I want to play with moremusicians.
I want it to be as close to aneffortless switch to playing

(18:17):
with other people as it possiblycan be, just so I can learn all
these things at my own pace.
I can get like octaves down andall that boring stuff, but I
just want to feel that rush withmusic again, like that's really
what it all kind of boils downto.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I want to pick up my guitar again so I can support
myself, but I really want tomake some just crazy music with
some crazy musicians.
Like that's really my biggesthobby other than yelling at
12-year-olds on like games onPS5.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's a really dope way to do it too.
Music has always been my safeplace, where I remember a couple
of years ago, maybe two yearsago I was struggling mentally
and I wasn't really knowing whatwas wrong and I realized,
instead of filling my time withmusic throughout the day, I was
filling it with like politicalpodcast and I was listening to

(19:08):
interviews on YouTube and I wasconstantly hearing negativity
through social media and stufflike that.
And I wasn't just listening tomy music when I had downtime,
like I had for years in college,when I wanted to get away.
When I'm walking around campus,when I moved to Chicago and I'm
on my way to work anytime Icould, I was listening to music.

(19:32):
One year I was over 60,000hours on Spotify at one point
and that is something that I hadto get back to.
I had to get back to usuallystarting my morning off with the
music.
I go on my morning, walk, getout of bed, get my headphones,
put them on and have musicplaying the second I wake up to

(19:52):
kind of help me navigate throughthe house and get my clothes on
, and the music is reallyhelping me start the day off
right and I'm not playing somehard metal or some crazy rap
lyrical stuff.
I'm usually listening to themost mellow stuff I have, like

(20:12):
Al Green.
I'm listening to Marvin Gaye,what's Going On?
I'm listening to stuff thatjust makes me want to smile,
that makes me want to sing, thatmakes me want to.
You know, okay, I'm about tohave a good day today because
the vibes are right.
Having that as a hobby, in myopinion, is the best hobby
because it is really really anincredible art.
I hear you when you say thatyou're trying to get into the

(20:34):
music more.
What are some things that youthink is holding you back?
Because something you said thatsticks out to me is you're
trying to get your guitar backin your hand more.
What's stopping you frompicking up that guitar?
What's stopping you from trulymaking the steps into the music?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
You know, I've thought about this a ton and I'm
always trying to like I'malways trying to hone in on,
like the, the reason that's atthe heart of the problem,
because there's a lot of answersI could give you to that, but I
think it's just there's just solittle time to do all the stuff
you want to do.
Because it's like, yeah, you, Ihave the 40 hours a week at the

(21:11):
job and that in and of itselfis a great deal of your time,
but you, you have to spend timewith your significant other.
Like they deserve your fullattention.
Like I can coast around ericafor days at a time like we've
been dating, for it's coming upon two years now, so we wow, two
years.
Yeah, yeah, it's a great crazyit's.

(21:31):
It's one of the best thingsI've ever done.
I'm so proud of it.
But, like, I do always try tobe like okay, we've been
coasting around each other forlike three days, just because we
live each other.
Like I need to sit down, weneed to watch something we can
both engage with.
We need to like have an actualconversation about something
that's not hey, how bad was work, how good was work, or
something like that.
Like yeah back to some of theold fun conversations you had,

(21:54):
like when you were first datingand all that.
It's like oh, what tell meabout your uncle?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
like two years in.
Let me just hear about youruncle you have to do stuff like
that.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'll want to like catch up on my youtube
subscriptions, which or play agame or something, which is
obviously wasted time, but it'sit's fun stuff, and fun stuff is
never wasted time.
But you need to do some stuffthat's good for advancing you
with your hobbies as well.
You got to do some not as funstuff, but some stuff that'll be
soul enriching once you getthrough it and it's honestly.

(22:22):
I just need to use some of thattime I've been using for these
other things the four or sohours I'm not like washing
dishes or cleaning the house orstuff to work.
I need to sit down and I needto play some guitar.
I need to do some stuff that'sharder than what I've been
playing, because I'm by no meanslike a guitar master.
I learned it so I could singand play at the same time.

(22:43):
If I couldn't find somebody onthe piano, if I didn't have $300
to pay somebody what theydeserve, I'm just going to back
up myself and I'm going to belike, hey, here's how I can do
it, and what I need to do is Ineed to sit down, I need to run

(23:05):
some scales on the guitar whichare not as fun as piano.
I need to sit down, I need tolearn a couple songs over and
over just so I can pull them outand if I ever need to like play
at a bar or something, and it'slike I need to see if I want to
do this nine to five stuff myentire life.
Because it honestly scares me tonot have that safety net.
Like it scares me not havinghealth insurance, like paid
through a company.
Scary, not having a 401k, allall that stuff that they tell
you you have to have towards theend of your life and all that
it's scary and you have todecide.
Is the stress you're gettingfrom 18 people who just lost $2

(23:30):
million because this thing isdown?
It's nothing you did, it's justthings go down on the internet.
Or do you run the stress of howam I going to retire but I'm
doing what I love?
It's just like you have to beable to sustain yourself.
You have to.
I have to be able to affordthings for erica, for us, like

(23:51):
we're each other'sresponsibility now.
No matter what happens.
We'll always be there for eachother, but if we ever want to
have kids or something in thefuture, to some extent it is my
job to be able to help her tocomfortably afford that.
I need to figure out what I'mcapable of, and that's scary and
that's, I think, probably themost complex answer on the

(24:12):
planet to why can't you just putyour guitar in your hands?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
No, it's not, Because I always tell people my biggest
fear.
When I was younger, I didn'twant to be a baby daddy.
That was number one.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I didn't want to be a baby, daddy being a baby daddy
was horrifying to me.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
But another big fear of mine was not having the
support, not being able tosupport myself.
Bringing someone down with meand in my marriage that's the
first hurdle I kind of had tojump over was I am so nervous to
mess this thing up that I avoiddoing things that I think might

(24:53):
help If I'm not sure that I'llhave the finances coming from it
.
I don't want to do it.
I'm not going to quit a jobjust to quit.
I would quit a job back in theday in a heartbeat because I'm
very headstrong, but now it'slike I can't just do that.
I have someone that depends onme to bring money in, someone
who depends on me to help payfor these trips that we're

(25:14):
taking, to help get groceriesand do this and that, and she
wants me to be happy too.
Yes, and I see that.
But my hurdle always comes backto my security of am I doing the
right things?
Am I putting us in jeopardy?
Do I need another job?
Should I be bringing more moneyin?
Music isn't going to do that.
Well, maybe it can, I don'tknow.

(25:35):
I'm nervous to try, becausewhat if it doesn't?
And that's not something toapproach lightly.
So when you say that youstruggle with that security.
That's something we were taughtwhen we were young.
You know what I'm saying.
Make sure you cover your basis,Make sure you understand
exactly what you need to do tomake it to the next day, and

(25:57):
then in most of the world itrevolves around having enough
money to make it to the next day.
So that's not complex.
That is very regular, I feel,where there's so many people who
dictate their whole life onsomething that they hate so much
because it's security.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's really just the toughest part.
It's just like I don't have aninvestment in finance, but I'm
good at problem solving andpuzzle solving just because I
have a very like.
I have a very like.
How is the sausage made, typebrain, to where I really enjoy
that type of information.
But as far as being consistentwith, like customer service and
that, aside from being kind topeople, it could mean nothing to

(26:41):
me and it never really will.
And no job I've ever had thathas paid the bills has ever
really spoke to me on that kindof level, and I'm not sure that
there is one that will, otherthan something I could
potentially get some sort ofdegree in accounting or
something, and maybe I fall inlove with that because I can
finally do a job where no one ismicromanaging me, but that is a

(27:02):
whole other thing.
You're going to either go learnyour music and do that or
you're going to learn how tocode, and it's like those are
very different life paths.
How do you choose?
How do you figure it out?
Journey of a Thousand Stepsstarts with a single mile and
it's like you just got to figureout where you're going to start
and you just have to keep going, and that's what I have to tell
my brain.
It's like you don't have to doit in a day, just start.

(27:23):
And even if you get 2% better,it's like you did something, you
figured it out.
Not to go back to my miniatures,which I definitely want to tell
everybody about all, the funlittle bugs I've been painting,
but like that it has been kindof helpful as far as making
myself realize I don't need todo it all in one day Because,
like all you do is you just sitthere and you just paint and you

(27:47):
figure out how the paint worksand you figure out how it
spreads and how much you need onyour brush and you screw up and
this thing looks bad and how doI fix that thing?
And I realized now that as I'mpainting things, my hands are
just more skilled at it, becauseI've been painting for months
at a time while Erica readsthat's what I got it for, so she

(28:07):
could read and we could just benext to each other and we don't
really talk and we can beoutside, which is also another
thing we have to get time for.
It's just like in some freshair and all that.
But I've noticed that I'mgetting better at something and
I'm not really having to evenapply that much, like just being
mindful is all I really have toapply.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
And I think, if I can get that confidence back as far
as just like you know, runningmy scales and looking at my
chord signatures and just likereading music and singing those
jazz standards that I want tosing at some point, just
listening to Georgia on yourmind a hundred times until you
can get the, the melody there,it's like, oh yeah, you really
don't have to do it in a day.
Really.
You can just take an hour tothis day, an hour to that day.

(28:48):
Some days you gotta clean, somedays you gotta paint, some days
you gotta sing, and just likefiguring out what, how to manage
that time and how it works foryou with the results that you
want.
Because right now I want to beable to hold more space for when
, like erica's anxious aboutsomething, because I I recently
like decided to jump off medsbecause, like I felt they were

(29:09):
pushing me in like a wrongdirection.
So I'm having to be moremindful about my own emotions
and stuff too.
So I think that is specificallywhat I'm working on as of right
now and I think that's beenvery, very helpful to me to
realize that you just got tokeep doing it.
That's it.
Yeah, you can practice and youcan make like a six hour a day
schedule for yourself, but youjust have to keep doing it.

(29:30):
That's the most important part.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Those are two things that I feel like have been kind
of a theme this year on the pod,where I love routine.
I love routine, I lovestructure.
I've always been a person likethat.
When I was younger, I lived in ahouse that was a little chaotic
, because my grandmother wasyoung when she had me or when

(29:51):
she had my mother.
My mother was young when shehad me, so I lived with siblings
who weren't my siblings, theywere my uncles and aunts, but
they were like brothers andsisters and I was surrounded by
my great-grandparents even atone point.
So we had so many people in thehouse moving and grooving and
stuff going on that in mygreat-grandparents' house things

(30:12):
were a lot more organizedbecause my grandpa was very OCD
than in my mother's house or mygrandma's house.
It was very chaotic and stuffweren't as clean as you would
want it.
And as a kid when I was inthose scenarios, I would always
kind of have anxiety because Iwas like, didn't like that it
was dirty, but then I didn'twant to have to clean up after
everybody, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I didn't get to a place where I was able to just
say, okay, I want this clean.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Where I was able to just say, okay, I want this
clean.
I have to just do this for me,not because my siblings should
have done it already.
That's the stuff that I'm veryfortunate to be in the
relationship I'm in now.
To get to a place now whereAdrienne very much is not the
neatest person in the houselet's put it that way but, with

(31:01):
that being said, she usuallyhave intention to clean and she
grew up in a house where theintention was always there and
they would eventually do it,maybe the next day, maybe in the
morning time, like her father'sroutine was to clean in the
morning.
So the dishes are just sittingin the sink overnight and
they'll be clean before you wakeup in the morning.
So stuff like that is somethingthat I have to accept within me

(31:24):
to know I can't wait.
All night I will go to sleepthinking about those damn dishes
.
So I am the one that's affectedby this.
She's not affected and she willclean it.
I just need to do it now then,if I want to do it.
So I've had that opportunity togrow with that.
But as a kid I didn't have thatmentality.
I didn't have the adults aroundme to encourage me to think

(31:48):
that way, and so it was veryfrustrating and anxious, and
chaos that's the only word thatcomes to mind.
It was chaotic.
Creating a routine andunderstanding that I can step
forward and take care of somebusiness helps with that.
But then having so many ideas,I've always been this kid who

(32:09):
wants to make music.
I've always been this kid whowants to act, who wants to sing,
who wants to write.
I'm a BFA musical theatergraduate.
They train us to dance, to sing, to act, to work the box office
, to work behind the scenes.
They want you to have multipleskills, and when you have that
kind of a mentality, it's veryeasy to overwhelm yourself and

(32:33):
put yourself in a position whereyou're not doing anything
because you don't know where tostart doing anything because you
don't know where to start.
And so this year and last year,actually writing out what I'm
going to be doing, what time,when, where, how creating events
task has really helped me honein onto my real goals.

(32:57):
I really would love to be agreat piano player.
Something I never reallyenjoyed doing is playing an
instrument while singing.
I've never enjoyed that.
I'm too concerned about theinstrument because when it comes
to my vocal instrument, I amvery comfortable with that, so
I'm not thinking about that.

(33:18):
So when I'm singing on thepiano, if I can't do my normal
singing preparations or breatheproperly, it's because I'm so
focused on something other thanthe singing.
So give me a glass of whiskeyand I'll just sing.
That's usually how it goes.
But I feel like we live in ageneration now where there's so
much access to so many thingsbut then also it is still very

(33:41):
closed in where I'm writingmusic and putting stuff out.
It's going to get out faster ifI do it than it is with others,
because there are so manypeople working and grabbing
people and taking people'sattention that the person I need
right now might not be freeuntil next month, and it's like
I want to at least have a demotogether.
I want to at least be able toperform this at a show.

(34:03):
I want to be able to go to abar and do this now.
So I'm working on my piano butI'm being patient.
It's very difficult to get itdown, but I schedule a time for
that.
When it's that time, I focus onthat and then, when it's not
that time, I give myself sometime to breathe, and it's truly

(34:24):
helped me to analyze what Ireally want.
It's helped me see the road towhere I could be, and not sure
how much of that kind of ideasparked anything for you, but I
truly think that creating aroutine and also having some

(34:45):
type of planner or phone useyour phone to really
purposefully create tasks.
I want to do my scales.
So I'm going to do scales today.
I'm going to do this today.
I'm going to do that today andwhen you have those three things
that you're going to do thatday, do those three things.
When you're done, I'm done fortoday.

(35:05):
One of my teachers I did amasterclass with her name is
Faith Prince.
She's an incredible performerwho's worked on Broadway and is
an actress and all that.
She always says that for hercareer she does three things a
day for her career.
It could be anything, but aslong as it's going towards your
career.
You did three things that day,meaning I posted something on

(35:28):
Instagram, I ordered somebusiness cards and I contact the
guy who does photography orcontact somebody who is involved
with the newspaper that couldpossibly review my album.
Those three things were done.
Today I can do more stuff, butif I for sure have three things
that I want to do and Iaccomplished that, that is worth

(35:50):
rewarding yourself in the senseof you are good.
You did something today, and Ithink that is usually the
beginning point for any personwho struggles with where to
start on a goal.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
It's honestly refreshing hearing you say the
exact sentiment that I'm feeling, because it's like you, to a
certain extent, are doing thatlike live music thing more than
I am, and to see that you stillhave those same hangups and it's
still the same old issue, likeno matter where you're at.
It's like, it's refreshing, itshows it's like we're you're

(36:25):
going to keep feeling that way,but it's going to get a little
better every day, like you justjust gotta keep making sure that
you're doing it but also thatyou're taking care of yourself,
that you're doing somethingthat's just mindless and it's
fun, and then it'll take yourstress off.
And I don't know, maybe I needto start using this uh calendar
function on my phone a littlebit more.
Yeah, but I mean I I got alittle little app to go through

(36:48):
my octaves and all that.
I uh do my little musicduolingo every day and that's
something I get.
I look at some sheet music andidentify some chord signatures
and all that and just kind of bemindful what I'm looking at and
it's good.
It's always very nice when yousee it pay off later down the
road and somebody asks yousomething how many sharps are in
this?
I'm not gonna answer that nowbecause I couldn't tell you, but

(37:09):
it's always nice to see yourown personal growth in those
things.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I think one of my biggest blessings with me being
fortunate in doing things is Imoved to LA, and moving to LA
showed me exactly what you justsaid Someone that you admire.
You talk to them and they'vefound success in the way that
you're like I want that.
You see these people and youthink they're so great, they

(37:35):
made it, but then you talk tothem and you realize they're
just normal people and yourealize, oh, they're struggling.
A great example I have a wholelist of celebrities I met, but
there was a lady who played acharacter on Orange is the New
Black and in the show she's likereally, really like.
She's almost like a meth head.
I think she like kind of hasthis really weird personality

(37:57):
and yellow teeth and is verylike mean and weird.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
And the little brown headed girl.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, the brown, yeah , yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
And so.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Pensatucky, I think that's yeah, yeah.
So she came into one of myrestaurants I was working at and
I remember going to her table.
She was outside by herself onthe phone and I came on and just
dropped waters and she was likeI'll be out ordering in a
second.
I was like okay, cool.
And walked back in and gave herher time.
When she put her phone down, Icame out and I remember going up

(38:27):
to her.
I knew exactly who she was.
Orange is the New Black was myshit.
And I remember going up to her.
I knew exactly who she was.
Orange is the New Black was myshit.
But at this point I've beenliving in LA for a while, so I
knew when it came to celebrities, you just got to avoid that.
Oh my God, can I please get aselfie?
You got to just be normal andthat usually helps you.
And so I just kept breezy andwas like, okay, so these are our

(38:48):
specials, this, this and that.
Are you going to have anyonejoining?
And she's like, yeah, I gotsomebody coming, so I'm not
going to order just yet.
I'll take a drink.
And she kind of just had thislook on her eyes and you could
tell something's wrong.
I was like I hope you're doingokay, that's all.
I said it before I hit it out.
She's like it's been a long day, been a long hard day, and she

(39:11):
had another phone call.
So I left and started hearingthe stuff that they were talking
about on the phone and theproblems she was having was
family dealing with peopletrying to get people to just do
stuff that they should do.
It was very frustrating to herand it was so relatable.

(39:33):
I was like that's something thatI deal with all the time with
my folks.
It's something I deal with allthe time and to see someone who,
in my eyes, is a successfulperson struggling the day isn't
as perfect as you want it to be.
When you're successful, it'sstill a battle.
It's still something that youhave to dig yourself out of.
That really changed my wholeperspective on my career,

(39:54):
because whenever I meet somebodythat's out there working and
they can't see that blessing infront of them, it's because they
have the wrong people or theyhave the wrong thoughts going
around it.
You got to see how incredibleit is to do the things that you
love.
If you're doing something youlove to do and you're getting to

(40:14):
do it, there's people like you,working in finances, who all
you want to do is just sing.
That's all you want to do.
And you got to watch thesepeople who are doing that, tell
you.
Oh, it's not everything youthink it is, it's like come on,
please don't tell me that.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Tell me, it's everything.
I think it is.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
But even then it's never the same for any person.
So they might be strugglingbecause they never got their
cards right in the first place.
Mentally they might have gottena break or gotten something
given to them in a different way, and we never know how people
got to where they are in oursociety.
Know how people got to wherethey are in our society.

(40:54):
So I try my best not to comparemyself to other people, to
continue to work on me.
Understand that it starts withme.
Anything that I do, it startswith me, and if I'm good, we
good.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
You know what I'm saying oh, absolutely One of the
things that've noticed, uh,with myself, that's one of the
the worst mental habits I haveis I have like, for some reason
I will do that thing where youhave like a conversation with
yourself in your head, where youtry to like gauge how you think
a conversation or a callback orsomething like that's gonna

(41:27):
struggle that yeah, yeah, soyou're prepared for what's gonna
happen, but the is all that iscompletely made up, so it barely
helps you.
It's honestly just kind ofself-defeating at the end.
So this year I'm trying to gointo these moments where I email
people or call people to see ifthey want to collab or submit

(41:49):
for directors who I know don'tlike me, just to see.
If, like, hey, you never know,just send it in If you're.
If your talent andprofessionalism can speak for
itself, maybe you can mend someold bridges.
There's no point in talkingyourself out of something you
want to do before you even getin the room and show them that.
And it's like it seems likesuch an easy thing to like get

(42:12):
over.
But it's just something I hadto be so mindful of.
This year.
I had gotten this one partuntil eventually because I was
like oh, the rehearsals start atthe end of this week.
I kind of need to know aboutthis before I start submitting
for other things.
I'm just like should I emailthem?
What do you mean?
Should I Just email them?
Who cares?
They're people, they're goingto answer you back.
Stop second guessing yourselfand just talk to the people you

(42:34):
want to work with, because nineout of 10 times, so long as
you're not being a weirdo whichI never am in those professional
emails, because I'm terrifiedof being a weirdo in those Just
email them.
Just put it out there.
People want nobody comes tothis show to see you mess up.
Nobody like sends out feelersfor people to be in these parts

(42:56):
because they don't wantsubmissions.
Crazy to think that you have tojust be your own fan and be in
your own corner for these things.
Just going through this nextyear with all that in mind, it's
scary and it's exciting at thesame time and I'm just.
I'm so looking forward toactually like starting to work

(43:17):
on it.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Excuse me?
Yeah.
How about you give him a mic?
Don't worry, I brought it fromhome.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah um, I've just noticed that we're what Act 2?
.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, it's Shane Murphy, everybody I have to go.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
I just noticed that we're in act two of the Sam
Cooke show and we have him singone of his most famous tracks.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Yeah, one of them.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
That just so happens to be a you want to get in the
light.
Yeah, of course I would love tobe seen.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
No but he had a really famous song that happened
to be a duet.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I'm just wondering if you want to go help with that.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I mean you know it's pretty dope.
I appreciate you actuallyoffering your service.
It would be really awesome forme to say that Okay, we're going
to do this.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
You want to do it?
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Okay, you want to give him one light, of course
give more than life course.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Make sure that makes you look good.
You got a little dangerappreciate wiping me on stage
judge me only judge me.
Let's play, let's do it forthem.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
I got a little bit of song too y'all ready If you

(44:46):
ever change your mind.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Don't stop leaving, leaving me behind.
Oh, bring it to me, bring yoursweet loving, bring it on home
to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.

(45:13):
I know I left when you left,but now I know I only hurt
myself.
I'm gonna hurt myself.
Oh, bring it to me, bring yoursweet loving, bring it on home

(45:43):
to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, I'll bring you to rest,
and money too.
That ain't all.
That ain't all I'll give you.
Oh, bring it to me, bring yoursweet love in.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
This is from my April 30th performance of 2023 at the
Academy Theater.
I did a tribute to Sam Cookeand I had to have Shane get up
there and sing this tune with me.
He's a phenomenal voice and hecould hit all those notes.
And everyone in the audiencesaw him and did not expect that

(46:32):
voice to come out, and that wasthe point.
He's so flipping good.
So shout out to Shane, and Ilove performing with him.
You can listen to my music onall streaming platforms and if
you want to check me out formore information, go to
DomLamorecom, where you can getanything and everything.
Dom LeMore, bring your sweet,loving.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Bring it all home to me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, woo, woo Woo.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
You know what I love.
I love the Mandaloriantelevision program and the
reason why it brings me so muchjoy Every time I turn it on.
I've seen every episode atleast five times.
Every episode at least fivetimes.

(47:52):
But I feel like Jon Favreaureally captured the essence of
Star Wars for the casual StarWars fan, you know, when you are
someone who.
I didn't watch the originalStar Wars when I was younger.
I grew up and the first StarWars movie I saw was episode two
and we went to the movietheater in middle school and

(48:14):
that was when we saw that.
And so for me, the prequels ismy entry point, which makes it a
lot difficult for other peopleto hear that because they're
like, oh, the prequels arehorrible and I'm like, I
personally love the prequels.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Star Wars.
Having multiple entry pointsthat are blindingly different
quality narratives andvisualized is the funniest
aspect of that fandom.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Exactly what you're saying is exactly the thing.
I came in with episode two,which is 20 times more advanced
with the CGI and the worldbuilding than the original
trilogy.
So for me, I'm seeing theseincredible Jedi temples and
these incredible landmarks andall of the space flying and the

(49:03):
cars and the cities I'm gettingthat with my productions of Star
Wars.
And then I go back and watchthe old ones and I'm like, oh,
this is movie.
Oh that, that is an old lookingthing.
And I'm watching the VHS andI'm like, oh, this is rough,
this does not look as nice asthe new ones.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
The original films are just a solid like very good
practical special effects, likeHero's Journey story and yeah,
it's in space and it's allstylized really nicely, versus
the prequels, which it's like he, it's like you can enter,
watching jar jar binks and beinglike what is, what is this?
Yeah, or you can you watch likegrievous have six lightsabers

(49:42):
that he's fighting with at thesame time dude, that's pretty
cool.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
I don't see why I would not like that and that
right.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
There is exactly why it was difficult for me, because
people in star wars fandom arethe worst type of fans.
There's only one group of fansthat's worse than Star Wars fans
and it's Kobe fans.
But I'm not going to talk aboutbasketball right now.
But, with that being said, Istill love everything, even with

(50:07):
the sequel trilogy.
People hate that as well.
With the sequel trilogy, peoplehate that as well, and I've
been rewatching it and watchingit with a new type of glasses,
like I'm looking at this as thisis just a continuation of what
I already know.
It doesn't matter that it's notas great.
It sucks in certain moments.
There are moments I can't getover, princess.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Leia space forcing herself back to the ship is
still ridiculous.
Wait, why is Rey healing thisspace worm?
Oh, so she can ass pull itlater in the movie and it's like
, okay, this is directorial.
Exactly those kind of things Iwas like those things.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
It's hard to watch, but also you just got to take it
.
And Mandalorian though theMandalorian was one of those
things where it's a completelydifferent story in the same
galaxy and there's elements ofstar wars that pop in.
Boba fett comes out of nowhereor ahsoka comes in, but you got
this great story between aprovider and his, his kid.

(51:11):
Pretty much Every time I watchit I feel like I'm sitting down
like I used to when I wasyounger and the show that it
reminds me of the most.
This is so bizarre, but it'sthe truth.
I used to watch the show.
My grandpa all the time wasWalker, texas Ranger.
Oh, my dad loved Walker Texas,my grandpa loved it and they
would always watch it, andthat's kind of the feeling I get

(51:32):
when I watched the Mandalorian.
I get those feelings where Iwas with my grandpa and we was
watching literally the mostincredible white dude beat all
these dudes up and then hispartner was a black dude.
That always got beat up and itwas hilarious.
I used to love watching thatshow.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Are you sure they can do that?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
I'm like why is he getting beat up?
He gets beat up every episodeand Walker got to come and save
him.
But that's what I'm lovingright now.
I'm loving the Mandalorian.
It's bringing me joy.
How about you?

Speaker 1 (51:59):
That's a great choice .
Okay, I think I got a good one.
Mandalorian is a great choice.
It's like it's wolf and cub,but just with like a serialized
like.
I love when they show the, theconcept art at the end of the
episode with yeah and laurentheme over it, you're like, oh
man, they knew what they weremaking here.
This is for people to watch.
I, I just love stuff.

(52:19):
It's that meticulous and that,like anybody can jump into it.
Uh, so I guess, to sort ofcounterbalance that, I'll say
something that almost thateverybody can't get into.
I, you know what I really loveanime.
I love anime.
It.
We are in a golden period ofjust a lot of stuff's ending.

(52:41):
So you're getting some of thelike most breakneck, like action
and emotional arcs, like you'regetting the end of them.
You're seeing some of the mostbeautiful stuff you've ever seen
, like put on a, like pen andpaper, so you can watch it
animated and just like every dayI'm like reading an like an
emotional arc on like one pieceor something at work and I'm

(53:03):
crying because it's likeliterally crying in the club
because, like six to eight yearsago, this little like comic
book that I read is having anemotional arc payoff years of
real world time later yeah andyou get to like hear stories
about how the mangaka are alsooverworked.

(53:24):
But they, like, they fully gaveuh kubo, who wrote bleach, a
do-over, like they're.
Like you were in super badhealth and you were being rushed
and you didn't get the endingto your piece of work that you
wanted.
So we're just going to let youdo a do-over.
Take all your characters, mashthem together in a big emotional
arc that you get to see pay offfor everybody.

(53:45):
Everybody gets their big fight,everybody gets their end of
their story.
All of it's incredible.
Everybody gets their end oftheir story.
All of it's incredible.
And just the idea of like givingauthor, like authors have
complete artistic control oversomething, to the point where,
like like oda put out one piecelive action, he was attached to
the hip yeah, to make surenothing.
And it ended up being it's oneof the worst anime you could

(54:08):
possibly adapt to a live action,but it it worked the best out
of them because there was justso much heart and soul put to it
and just watching that.
Those victories for just themangaka and all the people that
bring it on to voice people.
Like they retired one of thevoice actors in one piece
because he started having healthissues.
Yeah and uh, they passed on toa new voice actor.

(54:32):
And I think just getting to likeshare all these emotional wins
while also getting to just watchthe most insane breakneck fight
sequences just at my leisurehas brought me so much joy this
year.
Like watching bleach, thousandyear blood war and just being
like, yeah, this guy is fightingthe right hand of god and he

(54:53):
has the power to like turnclouds into poison, and you're
like how would that ever work?
And you're just like just watchman, yeah, it's so much fun.
It's like at the heart of it,it's.
This episode is just about likethere's just this guy who is
doesn really want to be violent,but he's forced to be and he's,

(55:13):
unfortunately, really good atit.
But his emotional arc is thatone of his friends who died left
his little sister in the careof him and you're just like man.
That's so perfect.
They get to have theiremotional battle and then they
get to have the stupid animebattle they're having in front
of it and it's so nice to watchall of it.
And it's just.
It's so nice to watch all of itcome together and it always

(55:35):
brings me joy.
I named my cat lucci aftercharacter one piece.
Everybody loves it and we gotin the one piece card game and
just having that is somethingthat's always behind me.
It's something that that alwaysmakes me want to wake up the
next day.
I'm just like dude, gotta see,got to see how One Piece ends.
Can't quit now, no matter howbad it gets.
We got to see how One Pieceends.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
But that's something I really love.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I truly appreciate your time.
This has been so dope just toget to have more of a deeper
conversation.
We've had so many conversationsover the years and it's always
great to just catch up and tohear your voice.
The way this works everyepisode is very simple.
We got through everything wewanted to say.
We spoke about topics, did ourthing.

(56:25):
Last thing I ask and all I wantto know now is how do you feel?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
And all I want to know now is how do you feel?
How do I feel I feel in thismoment?
I'm incredibly grateful that Ihave friends like you, who I can
jump on the projects and justgo upstairs and do a little
podcast with my bud.
I'm grateful that I can go do amusical here, and then I'm
grateful that I have this wholeyear ahead of me.

(56:50):
That's with all these peoplethat I love.
Things are going to be badsometimes, but I'm excited to
get things going.
That's how I feel right now,and I'm thankful for all the
people who are in my corner,because they are the ones who
are going to change this nextyear for me.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Cheers to you.
Cheers to you.
Cheers to you.
It was nice talking to you, man.
I want to thank you forlistening to the Black man
Talking Emotions podcast.
The opening quote.

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