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Speaker 1 (00:00):
exposing the darkness
, revealing the light.
Welcome back, my friends, tothe Blind Exorcist TBE for short
.
I am Justin D, your happy,excited on fire for Jesus Christ
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.
Exorcist slash podcast host.
Welcome back to the show.
We are up to episode 20.
How about that, guys?
You've been along this wholetime.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
You guys are awesome.
The more people can hear this,the more people can be helped
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and live a free Christianexistence Awesome.
In this episode I aminterviewing Chad Eason.
He is somebody that was justtaken through an exorcism by me
and a couple others on my team.
He had Freemasonry in hisancestry and this episode is
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going to be all aboutFreemasonry.
So if you know anybody that's aMason, anybody that's in the
Freemasonry, get this to them.
It's some evil, wicked, nastystuff.
Now, I know, I know, I know, Iknow they do all kinds of great
stuff, but we're going to getinto the spiritual aspect of it,
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not the physical.
People want to look at thephysical aspect of Freemasonry
the volunteering, the thingsthat they do good, all the
functions, events, etc.
Etc.
Etc.
But we're going to dissect thisbecause Chad and his entire
family have been vexed andtormented for years because of
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the Freemasonry curse on hislife that bled into his wife and
into his two children.
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That would make me so happy andgive me warm, fuzzy feelings,
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Many of you have, and thank you.
If you haven't, please do, andthank you for that.
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An interesting Chad is apreacher.
He's a pastor.
In fact, he's a SouthernBaptist pastor.
But how about that?
He's a Southern Baptist pastorand people in America's jaws
just dropped a Southern Baptistpastor with demons.
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Yep, and it doesn't matter thedenomination.
I've worked with severalpastors and different
denominations that had demons.
Got that.
How is that?
Because, man, it's what I'vebeen saying.
This is why I got the podcastto raise awareness.
Christians can have demons.
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It's just that simple, and I'mnot going to explain how I've
done that through prior 19episodes.
So before we dive in, let mejust encourage you one more time
share this out to anybody youknow that's in Freemasonry.
It may be the answer that theyare looking for.
So, without any further ado,let's go.
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Chad, welcome to the BlindExorcist.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Justin, thank you so
much for having me here.
I'm so excited to talk to youtoday.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Thank you, chad, for
taking the time out, for coming
on to speak with all of us, andI am so excited to dive into
your story.
And guys, chad is a pastor.
We are starting to see pastors,ministers, bishops from all
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walks of Christianity startingto accept the fact that
Christians can have demons.
I think it's so important forpeople to begin to understand
this as ministers, as pastors,because we are in the last days
and there are many people incongregations that are tormented
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relentlessly and are victims ofdemons.
They've tried everything.
They've tried counseling,they've tried therapy and I'm
all about that.
You guys know that who havelistened for a while.
It's a combination of both, inmy personal opinion therapy and
exorcism.
They got to work together.
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So this isn't let's bashtherapy, but that's all the
churches have offered people.
And what do you do when thatdoesn't work?
So pastors are at a loss.
This is why pastors, ministers,priests all of them, bishops,
everybody should understandexorcism and how to help people
and to know when to identify.
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Hey, this is beyond a mentalhealth condition, this is demons
.
Now, sitting that aside, we aregoing to be talking about
Freemasonry, because this is ahuge problem for many people and
they are unaware of it.
Freemasonry is extremely wicked.
It's extremely demonic.
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How can that be?
My grandfather, my father aregreat people and are masons, and
all that.
I can tell you as an exorcist.
It's probably one of the topthree most evil things that we
deal with in people.
It's interesting.
I follow Catholic exorcists andI've read a lot of their books
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and it's interesting to me thatthey also have identified that
Freemasonry is a very wicked,evil secret society.
If you don't know whatFreemasonry is, it's just a
secret society.
It's a secret club that youjoin, pay some money, get in and
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then they have differentdegrees, almost like the martial
arts.
You get a white belt, a yellowbelt, a brown belt, a purple
belt and so forth.
That's how it is in the masons.
They call it degrees firstdegree masons, second degree
masons, third degree masons andso forth.
In Freemasonry there's this oddkind of religious overtone to it
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, to where your God can bewhatever you want your God to be
, so if you want it to be JesusChrist.
But here's the kicker Everydegree that you go through you
make vows, for example, if youshare the secrets of the lodge.
I don't remember these vowsverbatim, but you can find them
online.
Go out and Google Freemasonrydegrees, vows, oaths, things
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like that and you'll find them.
There's a lot of ex-Freemasonsout there that have really been
impacted by this, but some ofthe vows are if I share the
secrets, I will cut my throat, Iwill put a noose around my neck
, get hung, I will rip my heartout and throw it over my right
shoulder.
There's tons.
They have baptismal ceremonieswhere you're blindfolded, you
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lay in a coffin and you'reresurrected.
It's a complete mockery of thedeath, burial and resurrection
of Jesus Christ.
And at the top, as a 33rddegree Mason, when you get to
the top, you admit in a vow, inan oath, that Lucifer is God.
Here's the gist of Freemasonry.
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In the outside it looks like abunch of good old boys.
They are men.
It's a men's club Freemasonry.
They have a female offshoot ofit and for children as well.
But the gist of it is anythingin secret is never good.
That's the main thing tounderstand.
Anything in secret is nevergood because in secrecy Satan
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lurks, like all of these vowsand oaths that they think are
symbolic.
In the spirit realm they arenot symbolic.
Satan takes those all as legalrights, and Chad went through a
powerful exorcism and we'll getinto this in a little bit and,
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chad, I'm going to be coming toyou in just a minute when we
start to work with Freemasonryand his exorcism.
You want to talk about themanifestations.
These things were coming uppowerfully nasty stuff.
If you know anyone that's aMason or in the Freemasonry, I
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would strongly encourage youagain to get this to them, share
it out to them so that they canlook into this and start to
understand that this is not good.
This is not good.
So, chad, I'm going to comeover to you and I'd like you
first to talk to us about beinga pastor.
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How did you become a pastor?
Let's get into that first andthen, after we talk about that a
little bit, then we'll startnudging forward into a
Freemasonry and eventuallytalking some about your exorcism
.
So go ahead, tell us how didyou become a pastor and what
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types of congregations have youworked with?
What's your I wouldn't call ita career, but what's your
experience been like as aSouthern Baptist pastor?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So, justin, thank you
for having me, thank you for
this experience and thisopportunity to meet with you.
I was saved in roughly 1985, at10 years old, in Vacation Bible
School and I grew up in Georgia, lived in Georgia most of my
life and, moving through life Iwas being saved.
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Small Southern Baptist church.
I learned that, okay, you'resupposed to go learn the Bible,
go to Sunday school, go tochurch like you're supposed to.
But I didn't really understandit and I was really never taught
more than just the Biblestories, not knocking anybody
that was serving or helping inthat church.
So great church still loveeverybody in that church today.
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But my teenage years and early20s I was just searching for
what I was supposed to do inlife and did a lot of different
jobs, did a lot of differentthings that I'm not really proud
of, a lot of them, but a lot ofexperiences in life, my, I'd
say, the late 90s.
The Lord started calling me forministry and I ran from him for
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about eight months before Ifinally submitted to him for
rededicating my life to him.
And then, a couple of monthslater before submitting to the
call for ministry Roughly early20s, I submit to the call for
ministry.
I start looking at schools toattend because you're supposed
to go to seminary, you'resupposed to go to Bible school.
I wound up at Tacowa FallsCollege through his leading, and
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a friend of mine, who the Lordhad called for ministry as well,
graduated to Tacowa FallsCollege, met the love of my wife
, kelly there, and we were boththird year.
We got married in 2003 andgraduated in 2004.
In youth ministries, going tohave a ball with the people and
have a lot of fun.
From there went to a series ofdifferent small churches as
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youth pastor and then associatepastor, and then wound up in
North Georgia, above Athens, atmy first full time church, which
ran about 25 to 30 people,young family toddlers our kids
were toddlers then and so servedthere for about three years or
so and then it wasn't a greatexperience because there were
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those that were set against usand the Lord was moving too much
, and I think the experience hasbeen with every church I've
served in.
The Lord starts moving too much.
Too many people's lives arechanged and the you could call
the old guard doesn't like it,and so the catalyst has to go.
So I have served in mostlysmall Southern Baptist churches
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not wanting to be in biggerchurches but serving small
churches and I'd say NorthGeorgia, south Georgia and
Savannah area, and went toSoutheastern Seminary thinking
that was the Lord was leading usto the next step.
There we were living on campus,working as hard as we could to
try to make it.
We were only up there for abouta year and the Lord called us
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back to Savannah, the Savannaharea.
I started pastoring a smallchurch and pastoring the church.
About three and a half yearsLord moved us to Atlanta for a
church.
Three years to the day thechurch decided they well, the
leadership of the church decidedthey didn't want me anymore and
so basically we're out on ourhaunches, if you will, and my
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family wound up living in myparents' house for six months
with them until we can get backon our feet and then wind up
back in Meldrum at the samechurch I pastored almost five
years later and then that'swhere I am currently.
So I've learned over the timeand over the years that if you
upset the apple cart too much,people don't like change and
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they don't like their apple cartupset, especially if they're
higher up in the church.
And if you mess with too much,the leadership of the church
will try to oust you.
And so there have been hurts.
There have been greatrelationships formed.
So I've learned my calling overthe process of all of this is
that it seems the word puts mein a church as a last ditch
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effort to turn that churcharound, for him to work and to
make a mighty move In that,knowing my calling, through the
experience, through hardships,through great times, through a
plethora of travel, of living,god's blessed us to live on the
beach.
He's blessed us to live on themountains.
So the word has been faithfulthrough everything and it's been
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amazing the journey we've had,and I wouldn't trade it again.
But I think there are somesteps I would make differently.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Thank you, chad, for
sharing some of that history
with us.
It's very interesting and quitecommon, I think.
Unfortunately, for a lot ofpastors starting out, you get
out of seminary, you start atthe lower ranks, so to speak, of
youth ministry and a youthpastor and then you come up into
a senior pastor role and you'reyounger and you have a lot of
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the I would call them seasonedattendees that have been there
for many years and you're upagainst it.
It's very common and I thinkpersonally this is why a lot of
churches don't grow and thechurches that do grow is that
the seasoned, veteran people ofthe churches are open to change
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because they understand theyounger generation needs
something different.
Younger people need something alittle bit different, and so
I've talked to quite a fewpastors that have had the
similar situation that you'vehad, where they try to bring
change in, to bring up the nextgeneration, and they hit that
wall.
Some of them stick it out andkeep pushing and get people to
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understand and say let's do it,and other times it doesn't work
out.
But I think what's interestingand we'll get into this is that
the amount of free masonry thatyou've came across in the
churches in the southern quoteunquote hemisphere of America.
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So much free masonry.
There are so many people.
You can Google and see how manypresidents have been masons.
George Washington was a mason.
This is what I get back to isthat people don't think that
this is evil but symbolic.
It's a boys club.
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They do all kinds of charity,they help, they do so much good
in the community, but at theroot of it is Satan.
It just is, and we'll get intothis a little bit more when we
talk about Chad's exorcism.
But, chad, let me come back toyou for just a minute and let's
hear a little bit of what is thedepth of free masonry that
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you've encountered in churchesin the south.
Now I have another associatethat I work with in Georgia,
near the Atlanta area, andPastor Donny's awesome.
You can check out his ministry.
It's liberation freedomministry.
He's down near around Atlanta,georgia, but he deals with so
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much witchcraft in theseChristians coming in Talking
about how in the south,literally, you got preachers
that preach the word, peoplejumping up and down, rejoicing
in Christ, and then they go homeand practice voodoo and think
it's okay.
Almost the same thing withmasonry If you're listening and
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you are a mason when you go intothe lodge I want you to look at
all the pictures on the ceiling.
Look at all the occultic godsthat are on there.
Egyptian mythology, romanmythology.
Those are demons.
We cast them out of people allthe time.
All the time.
Oris, mercury, venus, all thesethings, man, they come up in
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people and that's all over thelodge.
Very interesting, it'sex-masons that I've spoke to.
The way they explain it is oncethe blinders were removed off
of their eyes and they went backand looked at everything in the
lodge and they reviewed thevows that they were making.
Their jaws dropped.
And another thing with freemasonry Lots of curses on the
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family, lots of deaths, lots ofsevere mental health conditions.
There's patterns to this.
You can see it in people'slives.
You can just see it.
Lots of accidents, lots ofhealth conditions.
Cancer is huge, you can see it.
It's just not genetic.
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This is a result of the vowsthat people make, dedicating
future generations to Lucifer.
Listen, guys, I don't mean tocome across as extreme here
because I know most people thinkthe masons are a good boy club
that does great for thecommunity and they do good for
the community.
But in the actual privacy andsecrecy of that lodge.
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Lots of evil happens.
I worked with a woman.
When was this?
Maybe two years ago.
Her father was a mason and atsix years old she was brought to
the lodge and put through asatanic ceremony.
Now, I am not making this up,I'm telling you.
I worked with her.
It was a blood ceremony.
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She was blonde haired, blueeyed.
She was going to be the chosenone in the mason lodge.
They gave her a Kool-Aid drink,they made her drowsy and pass
out and performed a satanicceremony on her in the lodge the
lodge.
This is very common, not everylodge, but this does happen in
some lodges, and they did.
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And she has been going throughexorcism sessions for several
years to clean all of this upout of her life Wicked stuff,
man.
Now again, I'm not saying everylodge does this, but it does
happen.
We get people who have beenvictimized in lodges in our
exorcist network.
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Now, chad, I'm gonna come backto you.
Tell me a little bit about theFreemasonry that you've
encountered in your churches,that you've been around or have
seen down in Georgia, whereyou're located.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
The Freemasonry down
here is very prolific.
It's very much a part of justgeneral life, especially around
here in the Atlanta area where Iwas, and South Georgia as well.
But being near Savannah, youhave a lot of Buddha witchcrafts
as well, but the masons are.
You have a lot of Christiansthat are part of the Masonic
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groups or the Eastern Star,which is the women's version of
the masons as well.
I've seen them, experienced alot of people and heard a lot of
stories of pastors that havestood up against the masons in
their churches and the thing isyou don't know who's part of it
and who's not.
That's the thing is the secrecy.
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You don't know who's part ofthe Lodge and you don't know the
rank in the Lodge and you don'tknow how many people in your
congregation are part of theLodge or related to somebody
that's part of the Lodge.
So it's very prolific and verymuch part of life, seemingly in
the Southeast that I've seen andexperienced.
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And the churches, it's like yousaid, it seems like they seem
like they're doing good but theydo pancake breakfasts, they do
the Shriners do the go-karts andthe parades and all those
different things and they comeacross with a very attractive
outward appearance for marketingbut yet inwardly it's very,
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very bad.
Are the things that they takepart in?
You have the entry level guysthat are just in it to make
connections.
They're in it to network, makeconnections, help their business
, whatever they enter for.
But once you're in you'reguilty by association with it
and they do protect their own.
They very much protect theirown at a very high cost.
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At a very high cost.
It's very prolific down inSoutheast Georgia and the
Southeast that I've seen.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, it's
interesting.
You mentioned about themprotecting people and they do
that financially in today'stimes, but in times past there
used to be men called enforcersand if they told if members told
secrets of the lodge, theenforcer would go kill them.
And that's no joke.
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Dr Larson, who's trained me,has worked with masons who have
worked with enforcers.
So I don't think every singleperson that's a mason is some
wicked person.
But and I don't think theyunderstand a lot of them what
they are saying going throughthese vows, like you mentioned,
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chad, they come into this forbusiness reasons, financial
reasons.
Everyone has different reasons.
But to network because onceyou're a mason and you're in
that network and that'snationwide, worldwide, and
you're all considered brothersand everybody's got one
another's back, regardless ofwho they are, what they've done,
anything they got you andthey're very good with money.
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But it's the oaths, vows andceremonies that are performed,
ceremonies where they put anoose around their neck and make
vows with a noose around theirneck, being led by a noose
around their neck, and peopleget throat cancer and don't know
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why.
Very common.
So if you're a mason listeningto this and you've had throat
cancer, think of that Again.
Guys that go through this.
Just think they're vows to bepart of a club, almost like a
sorority or a fraternity oncollege campuses.
That's the mindset.
But the more you do, the worseit becomes.
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I worked with a guy.
He's a good, solid RomanCatholic and just joined the
masons because he was abusinessman and it wasn't too.
He got to the third degree andall of a sudden his wife sees
that he's literally I'm notmaking this up completely
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possessed.
Prior to this he was fine.
As exorcists, we look atpeople's eyes when we work with
them and we want, when demonsmanifest, their eyes go
completely black, and so that'show most sighted people know
that they're present.
I don't need that.
I just push till they manifestand then do my thing with the
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help of Jesus Christ.
But back to this Roman Catholicman.
He's so possessed he's sittingin the chair, voices speaking
out of him that aren't his own.
His eyes are completely dilated, black, and his wife says and
I'm talking to them as anexorcist because they're coming
to me for more sessions, okay,but his wife's telling me I got
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a hold of the church, theCatholic church, and there was
an exorcist in our area and it'sso hard to get in to see an
exorcist in a Roman Catholicchurch.
Normally it's a six month to aone year wait.
You got to go throughpsychological evaluations and
all that.
Now that makes sense because wewant to know if people have
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psychological problems as wellbefore we work with them.
I get that, but the six monthto a year wait is too much for a
lot of people.
So anyhow he gets into thisexorcist for the Roman Catholic
church and driving to the churchhe's so possessed that he looks
at his wife and says he's gonnacome out on a black robe with
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incense and it's not going towork.
They walk in, they sit down.
Guess what?
Here comes a guy out in a blackrobe with incense, those demons
that were in him from the vowshe made in Freemasonry.
So they're sitting across fromme and I'm working with them.
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And I said you still got thering to the lodge.
He goes yes, throw it out, go,burn your apron, get rid of it,
pitch it.
And so then we went throughmore exorcism sessions and he
gets freed up.
But as soon as you threw thering out and the little apron
and all of the materials, I saidtake yourself off the lodge
mailing list so you can cut freefrom that and not have any
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connection to it.
As soon as they did thesethings he said the atmosphere
lifted significantly because hewas cutting out from underneath
that organization and, like Isaid, we went through some more
sessions.
He gets freed up and he's doinga lot better.
And he said I just didn't know,I didn't know and he didn't.
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Dr Larson has a book on breakingcurses from Freemasonry.
If you're listening, you everwant to get out of Freemasonry.
I encourage you, go to hiswebsite and you can buy it.
It's just prayers.
You can pray aloud and breakthem.
I got that book and I gave itto the Roman Catholic guy and I
said let's get up through thethird degree.
That's as high as you went.
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He's reading off theserenouncement prayers and
breaking curses and he goes howdo people know this?
This is supposed to be secret.
I said because the people whohave came out have told us
that's how.
And it's just not here, it'sall over the world.
People get out of this andthere are Christian ministries
worldwide that help people getout of Freemasonry.
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All the time.
Pay attention to your health,pay attention to your
relationships.
If you're a Mason, usually thefinances are fine because
Mammon's in the mix there.
Mammon's a demon that dealswith finances.
He's part of the Freemasonrydemonic kingdom, so they usually
are doing very well financially.
But relationally, in yourrelationships or your children
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or your health, your spouse'shealth, your mental health yeah,
many times are afflicted fromthe Freemason demons that enter
people through all of these vows.
And so let's and I'm sorry forgoing on so much about this, but
this is bad stuff and a lot ofpeople don't know it, and I hope
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that if you're listening tothis and you're a Mason, you are
challenged in your thinking.
Like Chad said, how could it bebad?
They're doing go-karts,pancakes, they help the poor.
They have hospitals.
They, because of the vows, theceremonies, torment it.
So many masons are tormented.
Plenty of money, best ofeverything, but emotional wrecks
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, physical wrecks, children area wreck.
When I say wreck, afflicted bydemons, let's transition over to
your exorcism.
Chad, now here.
You are a pastor, you are aChristian, you have the Holy
Spirit inside of you.
In every church I can't sayevery, but almost every church
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says you'll never have a demonand when you become born again,
old things pass away, all thingsbecome new.
All the trauma you've beenthrough is gone.
You don't even need counseling,doesn't matter if you're raped,
sodomized, doesn't matter ifyou were abandoned, neglected,
beaten, doesn't matter.
That you've been in sextrafficking rings doesn't matter
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.
That's all gone.
You're brand new.
Welcome to the club.
Not the case.
I wish it was that easy, folks.
But it's not Demons.
I've always said this for thoseof you listening demons come in
through trauma and they come inthrough the ancestry.
Chad had Freemasonry demons inhim, in his mind, not his spirit
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his spirit is born again,belongs to Jesus Christ but in
his mind, his soul.
Your soul is how you think,your thoughts and your emotions,
how you feel, your imaginations.
That's your soul.
Freemasonry demons in theretormenting him, vexing him.
So, chad, my apologies foryacking on about this, but I'm
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so passionate about it becauseI've seen how it has tormented
and destroyed quite a fewpeople's lives that I've worked
with and many of the exorcistshave worked with in our network,
and you were one of them thatcame to us for help.
What was it that made youdecide now, wait a minute,
something's wrong here.
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I need to go get some help.
I think I may have demons.
What was it that led you tothat point?
Speaker 2 (31:10):
It started around
Christmas of 2019, a friend of
mine called me up and said hey,we've got somebody that we, you
know, has some issues withdemons and we're going to gather
together and we're gonna prayover them and we would really
like for you and Kelly to bepart of this.
Oh, okay, I've never done this,but okay.
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So, yeah, just come be part ofit.
So there were about six of usaround that person and we were
praying over them, we werespeaking over them, we were
quoting scripture over them allthat I'd known to do but I
wasn't sure what to expect,because all I had seen of
exorcisms and heard of castingout demons are Hollywood.
I was like, okay, is thisperson gonna start crawling the
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walls and climb on the ceilinghere?
What's to expect?
So, going and praying over them, we kept praying and kept
praying and after a couple ofhours or so, they just, they
kept just looking.
I would try to lead them in theprayer as best I knew.
I was like trying to lead themthrough to admit Jesus Christ as
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their savior, but they keptsaying A Jesus.
They would not say Jesus, theywould say A Jesus, and it would
just stare at me and Kelly, justblack eyes.
No, I call it dead eyes.
Just the solid black eyes juststaring and sneering at us, and
we prayed over them and finallywe just went our own ways.
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And, to my best understanding,they're still in that person's,
still in that state today, withthe everybody in the family
involved, with no hope of helpbecause they don't know what to
do.
And with that was my firstexperience with a demon
possessed a demonized person, ifyou will, or possessed person,
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if you will.
That was my first experience.
And when I walked away fromthere I started praying Lord,
you have given authority, yourword has given authority for
your disciples to be able tocast out these things.
God, everything I've beentaught.
I've never been taught thesethings.
I've never been taught aboutlegal rights.
I've never been taught how topractically walk through
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something to cast anything out.
Lord, I want to know how to dothis, to be able to set people
free, because I do not want thatsinking feeling again, that
demon is staring at me and Idon't know what to do anything
about it.
I think I was on the righttrack with that, but it knew
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that I wasn't sure what I wasdoing and so with that.
So that started a process in ourjourney from early 2020 to now
and looking with personal familythings going on, looking for
help for one of our children andfor one of our children, we've
tried literally everything underthe sun doctors, diagnoses, the
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psychiatrist, everythingliterally under the sun to help
them.
But it's always been aspiritual battle because the
whole thing started.
The first time Kelly and I everexperienced something
supernatural besides Jesussaving us and besides the things
that good Baptists do, thefirst things we experienced were
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door slamming, the cat gettingall up in arms and crazy and
just crazy things happening inour apartment when Kelly was
pregnant with our daughter, andso, looking at this, okay, and
so things just for the pastyears, all of our daughter's
life have all come against usand it's just really started the
supernatural manifestationsagainst us in churches and our
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home lives.
It's just everywhere we've beenhas followed us, and so looking
for help for her and really notrealizing until my
grandfather's funeral, I neverknew that my grandfather was a
mason and he had been a masonfor 60 years.
I never knew, and so when itcame out, I preached at his
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funeral and I it was in myhometown the person leading the
ceremony the masonic ceremonywas a good friend of mine's
father and I went to them beforethe ceremony and said y'all
aren't doing this.
I said, yes, we are.
We have right to do this.
The family's asked us to dothis and I said you are not
doing this, you are not doingthis over my grandfather.
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They said he's part of us,we're doing this.
And to every objection I had, Iwent to my parents.
Every objection I had, I couldnot stop it.
But that's the firstrealization.
Okay, there's a family historyhere of this.
And then I found out his fatherwas mason and so I don't know
how far up the line it went.
But and that was, yeah, thatwas on my mother's side and so
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didn't realize how far up theline it went.
And so, looking at this, lookingfor help for our daughter, I'm
studying all of these things andlearning about the legal rights
, learning about people beingdemonized, and the best way I
can explain this, the bestanalogy I can explain this, is
when we come to Christ, themoment of belief in Jesus Christ
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, we are saved, we are sealed,we're guaranteed down payment
with the Holy Spirit.
Nothing can separate us fromthe love of God.
Nothing, height or depthcreated anything.
Romans 8.
But from there, jesus owns thecar and he set the GPS, with the
Holy Spirit, to lead us wherehe needs us to go.
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But the question is, what arewe letting into the car with us
to influence us on our ride,following the Holy Spirit's
guide, with Jesus owning the car, and at some point, with the
GPS, you're driving up throughthere and the GPS has taken a
left.
I think I know better than thisGPS, because that street looks
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shady.
I'm not going down that street.
I know a better way.
And so if we keep doing that andwe ignoring the Holy Spirit,
thinking we know a better way,thinking we know a better route,
and we're stopping along theway, opening ourselves up
through these doorways, throughthese legal rights of music,
movies, the things we partake inthe people we hang out with,
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we're opening ourselves up tobeing demonized because, as
Christians, satan doesn't wantus to have a victorious life.
Satan wants us squashed.
He wants us if we're going tobe saved, if we're going to be
in Christ's army.
He doesn't want us any kind ofway effective.
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So he's going to try tosideline us by keeping us so
oppressed, so pushed down, sobeat up that we just want to
give up on following Christ inhis best for our life in order
that he just keeps us sidelineso that we're not a threat to
him.
And then learning about thelegal rights, learning about the
Masonic, the ties, the soulties, the ungodly soul ties,
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just all these things over thesefour years that I've been
learning and coming across ayeah, coming across different
counselors.
I came across a counselor and Isaid look, here's where we're
at, here's what I'm looking at,here's what we're dealing with
our daughter.
Things have come to a head withthem.
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We need help.
This is a spiritual issue.
We've tried all the physicalthings.
This is a spiritual issue andwe need spiritual help.
They said, okay, I've got a guy,and so they referred me to the
guy that's on y'all's team andfrom there talking with,
submitting everything for youguys to take a look at.
I asked.
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I said I've got some things inmy history and I've seen where
people would list off differentafflictions that people would
have that were related to theMasonic lodges or that were
related to Masonic demonic tiesand family and generational
curses.
And as they read all of thosedifferent afflictions off, I'm
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like that's in my family.
That's in my family, that's inmy family, that's in my family,
that's in my family.
And then my wife and I havingconversations, she said, chad, I
never had any kind of physicalor any kind of issues until I
married you.
Now I don't know if that wasgood or bad, I'm not sure if
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that was a compliment or what,but she said I've never had any
kind of issues, any kind ofphysical afflictions, anything,
until I married you.
And so, going through thequestionnaire with my daughter
for y'all's ministry, I filledout the questionnaire as well
and I'm like maybe I need to gothrough this and just see if
there's something in me beingthe spiritual head over the
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household that needs to bebroken off in order for my
daughter to be more free as shegoes through your ministry as
well.
So that's the long of how Iwound up here, but it's been a
four year journey and learning awhole lot because, again, as a
Southern Baptist preacher, as agood Baptist, I was always
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taught if you get saved, you getsaved.
You come to the cross and yourepent.
You live a good life, you be agood moral person, don't lie,
don't drink, don't smoke, don'tgamble, don't have premarital
sex, don't do drugs, love Jesus,live the best you can and then
when you die, you'll go toheaven.
That's what I was always taught.
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And then, researching andlooking, the problem has become
and the back of my mind isactual people.
I can't mention this to justanybody because people will
think I'm crazy and I will losecredibility with my people and
they'll think I'm crazy and I'llbe out.
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My family will be out of thechurch again.
So that's the dichotomy here.
Because exorcists the wordexorcism scares people.
But deliverance is what ittruly is.
But when you throw out exorcism, they have flashbacks of the
movie, the exorcist or whateverthey've seen.
Whatever any kind of thing hastheir idea of what an exorcism
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is.
It scares them and that's onlyfor the Catholics.
Only Catholic priests doexorcism.
I'm not that bad.
I'm not robbing people, I'm notgoing to jail, I'm not doing
horrible things.
I'm a decent person.
Jesus loves me.
This struggle is just part oflife.
I have to deny myself, I haveto take up my cross daily and
that means I have to suffer forJesus and that makes a victim
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mentality for our people.
And our people are livingdefeated lives, not experiencing
and knowing the full knowledgeof Christ because they're being
taught to be moral.
They're not taught thespiritual laws and the spiritual
power behind the word of Godand the understanding that, yes,
you're a Christian.
Yes, this is God working in you, but also Satan working against
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you in order to keep you pusheddown.
But God wants you to live infreedom and truth and freedom.
Satan's a liar and the Fatherlies, so what's he going to do?
Oh, this is just normal.
He deals with this.
This is just being part of thebody of Jesus.
You're going to have hard times.
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You're supposed to be poor,you're supposed to be struggle
every day because you have todeny the flesh and you have to
put yourself off to live piouslywhen, honestly, it's a lie from
the pit of hell.
Jesus says I have come to setyou free.
You know that you may be freeindeed, and being free means
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every sense of the word freeemotionally, spiritually,
physically.
But the thing is too much ofAmerican Christianity today is
built off of a guilt system andit's built off of a guilt.
You're not serving enough,you're not giving enough, you're
not doing enough when it's notand I teach my people get rid of
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the words ought to have to,need to and should we get to.
We get to pay taxes because wehave a job that earns us the
money to be able to pay taxes.
We get to put gas in our carsand tires on our cars because we
have a car that God hasprovided for us to give us
transportation to get back andforth to where we need to.
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If we would change our mindsetfrom all two have to need to and
should to we get to.
That gives a Mind-shift and webegin to break off that victim
mentality and we begin to breakoff the curse of victimization.
And it's only through theproclamation of God's word, the
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proclamation of God's truththrough his word and the
proclamation and Renunciation ofthose legal rights that Satan
has taken through our familyhistories and through ourselves,
over our own Curses ofourselves, according to the,
around between eight.
So that's how I got to.
Where I'm at is sitting heretoday talking with you, because
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it's God's just led these stepsand I'm slowly introducing these
things to my people.
But I'm having to be verycareful because I have a quarter
of my people have never been inchurch before and I've got some
that have been in church for 60years and Trying to reach a
wide range of people, but tryingto teach them why we do what we
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do, why we believe what webelieve, not just because the
preacher said it.
So, looking at my ownDeliverance sessions and
deliverance with you guys, it isso freeing because I thought
that was just the way life wassupposed to be, but I knew there
had to be more.
Jesus says there's more andthere's so much more in
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scripture.
I was like just to preach on aSunday morning and to see people
come to the altar Week afterweek after week with the same
problems and same issues.
I'm not negating that, I'm notminimizing that but to just keep
coming to the altar and notknowing how to take control, if
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you will, of their situation byletting God take control and
Learning to use the weapons andtools that God has given us
through his word in order tobreak off the weapons and to
confuse the enemy camp and theenemy's plans against us,
through God's word and throughGod's spirit working for us
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through prayer.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Wow, chad, you have
my head spinning.
There's so much you coveredthere.
Wow, I'm gonna come back toyour exorcism in just a minute,
but I just want to touch on acouple things.
One is with the word exorcism,it helps people understand very
clearly what we mean.
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And it's not Hollywood and it'snot head spinning, but as a and
I'm just explaining this to theaudience.
In the Christian universe,people want to say deliverance,
because it's like puttingmittens on, it's very gentle,
it's Non-offensive, they.
And deliverance in a Christiancircle could mean just praying
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Jesus help them.
Or deliverance could mean westand at the altar, or.
But when you say exorcism toanybody Worldwide, there is
absolutely no doubt what youmean.
We are talking about demons,and so I just wanted to share
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that with people.
That's why we used a wordexorcism someone that's Saved,
or even not saved, they.
A lot of people don'tunderstand what this word
deliverance means, but everybodyunderstands what exorcism means
.
Okay, so there's that.
The other thing, with the peoplecoming back up to the altar
repeatedly.
That has been my Experience inchurches through my lifetime as
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well.
Same people, same problems,week after week, have no
solution whatsoever, but tosuffer because they have demons
and no one believes that they'redemons.
They're just the hardships oflife or it's their sinful nature
.
And so it's my prayer, chad,that eventually you'll go
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through the International Schoolof Exorcism, which is done
through Bob Larson ministries.
You can go to Bob Larsonorg youguys listening, and look for
the International School ofExorcism.
I encourage you to get into it,even if you don't want to be an
exorcist.
It will help you understandwhat's not taught in churches
about Spirituality and demonsfrom a Christian perspective,
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and it's fully backed bytheology sound theology.
Dr Larson has a doctorate inTheology, so keep that in mind.
But the idea of people comingback over and over and now, chad
, you have the solution you knowwhy they're coming back demons,
and over time, I'm convincedthat the Lord will help you
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Begin to work with these peopleand get them freed up.
They don't have to live thatway.
They can be free and, like yousaid, completely free.
And you, listening, you don'thave to live in bondage.
I don't care what it is.
Whatever your bondage is, thatpart in your life that you know
is Tormenting you.
That matter what it is.
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You don't have to live that way.
You can be free.
You can be free.
It's just simply getting a holdof me, or or even going to dr
Larson's ministry or get a holdof me, we'll work with you.
And again, if you can't affordthe pay, we work with people for
free all the time.
Don't let that stop you fromgetting freed up from your
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demons.
Don't let that stop you back tothe masons, back to your
exorcism.
So we're working with Chad andand the grandfather was a mason
and his father was a mason onthe mother side.
And as I'm leading Chad throughthese prayers of renouncement
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to break the curses of the lodge, fireworks went off.
These demons were coming up inhim trying to prevent him from
finishing the prayers Becausethey didn't want to lose, lose
their legal right for beingthere and they didn't like it.
And so they'd come up and Itell them to go down in the name
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of Jesus, because we're gonnafinish these prayers and,
through the authority of Christ,I'd make them go down.
They're not gonna stop it.
But every renouncement,renouncing the degrees of
Freemasonry, renouncing the vows, oce and ceremonies of
Freemasonry, renouncing bloodCeremonies in Freemasonry all
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they went ballistic on that one.
When you start talking aboutrenouncing blood ceremonies in
Masonry, freemasonry they gocrazy Because that happened so
much historically.
It might not be in our timestoday.
It probably happens in somelodges.
It absolutely does.
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I mentioned earlier I workedwith a young woman where there
was a blood ceremony Performedover her.
But this is historically what'swent on in these lodges through
the years past, all through thegenerations, and so that curse
comes down the pipeline, downthe family bloodline, of that
Mason curse on the family.
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And was in Chad.
A southern Baptist preacherLoves Jesus Christ with his
whole heart, but something wasoff.
He started having paranormalPhenomena around him, doors
slamming, cats going ballisticfor no reason.
He knew something was wrong andhe knew it was demonic, but he
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didn't know what to do and mostChristians don't guess what you
do.
Have a solution now.
Come on over.
I'm here to help.
I have a network of exorcistswill help you.
You don't have to live in fear.
You don't have to live intorment anymore.
Come on over Chad Did?
He got freed up all those freemasonry spirits that were in him
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.
He was dedicated, so we had tobreak that dedication.
Oh, they went ballistic on thatto them demons.
They didn't like that.
And so this free Masonary curseon Chad's side was very strong
because it went back hundreds ofyears all Down his mother's
bloodline and, interesting tonote, his wife, kelly, never had
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any problems until they gotmarried.
Why, cuz of the Mason curse thefree Masonary curse resting on
his life?
People, people get things justcome up in them.
For example, maybe Kellystarted having health conditions
.
She just thinks, well, maybeit's part of life, I'll go get
this checked.
I'll get got that.
Check has no clue that it'sdemonic and most people don't.
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Who's to say the physicalconditions that you're
experiencing are not demonic?
Who's to say the mental healthconditions you're experiencing
are not demonic?
You have to think Outside ofthe box as a Christian, or even
if you're not a Christian,listening, there is a
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supernatural realm with realdemons that are entities without
bodies and they desire to be inyour body.
They crave to be inside of aperson.
It's almost torment for them tobe outside of a person.
So if they can get into you,meaning your mind and physical
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body, your spirit belongs toJesus Christ.
That's what it's all about forthem.
They come through the DNA.
Listen, go to ancestry, dna,calm or any of them.
I'm not getting any promotionalMoney or anything like this.
I'm talking as an exorcist manGet your DNA ran and see what
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your ancestry is.
Whoo, I got mine ran and I gotthe results back about two weeks
ago and it's nasty.
Some people look at theirancestry and are proud of it.
Uh-uh, I'm not proud of mine.
I say that tongue-in-cheek,please don't misunderstand me.
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There's part of me that's proudof where I've came from,
because that's what the Lordsaid I was gonna be.
That was his choice.
So I accept that.
But from an exorcistperspective, when I look at the
Ancestry that I have, lord Jesus, there's some nasty demons in
there Nasty, and there's someregions that I had no clue.
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I never had a DNA test ran, butI knew my father was German, my
mother was Irish and so we wentthat route during my exorcism
sessions, got cleaned up fromall that junk Druids and the
Hitler regime and beyond andjust all that stuff.
It's just nasty stuff.
So when I got my results, sureenough there was Germany and
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Irish and a lot more.
What's your DNA?
It's a good thing to figure out, can help you get freed up a
lot quicker.
So I encourage you to get a DNAtest ran and get ahold of me.
Get ahold of me, it's not hard,it's quite easy just send me an
email info at Justin D commPutting that subject help me
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Right, isn't that what you need,friend?
Aren't you sick of the demons?
Aren't you sick of the torment,man, the heaviness, the
weighing down, the suffering,all that junk info at Justin D
comm.
Subject help me and, partner,I'll help you.
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Jesus is who's gonna help you.
I'm just a vessel that he worksthrough, so you need help.
You send that email out.
But the Freemasonry stuff gotcleaned up and Chad.
He's feeling a whole lot better, and this curse went from him
to his wife and to his children.
His wife just went throughexorcism sessions with us as
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well, and his daughter is here,his daughter as well.
And this junk, this garbage, isall getting cleaned up so that
it can experience RealChristianity.
What do I mean by real?
You're not inhibited by demons.
When you don't have demons inyour mind, your thoughts and
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emotions or in your body, youhave freedom.
You have peace of mind and aconnection with Jesus Christ
like you have never experienced.
I'm gonna give it to you onemore time.
I'm gonna try to encourage you.
You're ready, friend?
You're ready?
Get a pen and paper, get yourtablet, your phone open.
Get ready, you're gonna writeit down.
Here we go.
Info I-N-F-O at JustinD.
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As in Dobbinmeyer, justindcom.
Info at JustinDcom.
Subject help me.
So if I see that, come in, Iknow you're the one and I'm
gonna grab your hand and we'regonna walk through this healing
journey together and JesusChrist is gonna free you up.
Now, chad, I'm gonna bounceback over to you Any thoughts to
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share about your freedom fromthe Freemasonry.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Before the deliberate
session, before the exorcism,
my brain would race all the timeAnxiousness, worry, trying to
wanna make sure everything wasperfect, control All those
things would run through my head.
Can so and so do.
This is good, can what?
Anxiousness with okay, who'sgonna be there, what's not gonna
go right, what, always waitingon the shoe to drop, the other
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shoe to drop, not knowing whenor how, but just trying to keep
it from that.
It was exhausting.
There were nights that I'd wakeup at one, two in the morning.
I'd go to bed exhausted, 9.30,10 o'clock, One, two in the
morning.
Can't sleep because ofeverything running through my
head.
And all the thoughts would notstop Ever.
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It would keep running.
I'd be having conversationswith people, thoughts were
running through my head as to,okay, what's happening next?
Where are we going from here?
What needs to happen here?
And it became an obsession.
The church building became anobsession.
The church is not the building,it's the people.
The church building is wherethe people meet.
But in the efforts that I wasputting in, I'm a project person
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Get one project finished, goright to the next project.
And so the projects keptbuilding and it just became so
overwhelming.
I was getting to the point offrozen.
I was getting to the point ofjust overwhelmed, exhausted and
frozen.
Since the session, since theexercise I'm the two of them, we
went through two of them andsince everything's gone, I sleep
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better at night.
My thoughts are, the racingthoughts are gone.
I'm not as anxious abouteverything coming up Now.
I've learned that part of thatis fear, because fear of not
being able to control things.
But also you got Jezebel andthose demons in there and that's
part of their signature as towhat they do.
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And I've learned that a polyonor Abaddon is the king of the
pit, the abyss, that everythingfrom him is fear in everything
and just looking at everything.
But since the, since justbreaking off the curses, since
renouncing the curses, and butonce all that was broken off,
once everything was finished anddone, I had a 50 pound weight
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lifted off my chest, just likeyou said a few minutes ago,
justin, 50 pound weight liftedoff my chest.
I sleep better at night, I restbetter, I have more clarity in
my thoughts and my mind and myprocess, because it just it was
foggy, everything was foggy andany mention of anything needing
to be done in the church wouldjust send me until meltdown
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because it was just sooverloading.
Now it's just okay, we can dothis in about five minutes.
Let's go.
God has really cleaned out allthe mess and all the demonic
influence and all the enemieswork against me to keep me from
being effective, trying to ruinmy health, trying to ruin my
relationships, trying to ruin myfamily, and God's broken all
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that off.
We're still.
We haven't arrived and we willnever arrive until the day we
stay in front of Jesus at theend of all things.
But until we arrive we're gonnahave struggles, but not to the
end that.
I have struggled pretty muchevery day of my life since
realizing that there were issuesand since being called in the
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ministry, because before beingcalled in the ministry I just
went along and got along andfloated along and ignorance is
bliss, supposedly.
But once you learn what thatignorance is eating away at and
doing to people, ignorance isnot bliss, ignorance is
destruction.
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I really think that once peoplebegin to wake up to the truth
and quit believing the lie thatChristians cannot be demonized,
that has hurt the world so muchand hurt the church so much,
because they're like oh,christian can't be demonized, we
can't have demons.
So if we couldn't have demons,why didn't God just call us home
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to be home?
Why don't we have to fight theworld, the flesh and the devil?
So, as we look at these things,the exorcism session has put me
on a new level of clarity andpeace.
Shalom peace to be able toexperience Christ in ways I
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haven't before, and scripturejust jumps off the page and
comes alive now to where beforeit was foggy and it was hard to
read.
And it's just okay.
I have to do this because I'mpreaching Sunday.
I have to do this because I'mpreaching or teaching Wednesday
night.
I have to do this and it was adrudgery instead of a get to
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start researching this.
This isn't just Justin out hereby himself saying, hey, this is
the truth, this is reality.
But this stuff is all over theinternet.
But this thing.
You've got Pastor Vlad, theUkrainian pastor, who's teaching
about this.
You've got all kinds of solidguys that are teaching about
this, but you've got so manyother people saying, oh, we'll
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see, they're just a farce,they're just whatever, they're
just not for money or whatever.
With that, what I'm saying is weget in a dangerous place when
we start painting with such awhite brush, that we throw the
baby out with the bath water.
And that's what Satan wants usto do, because he wants to keep
the church hamstrung so that hecan run rampant in this world
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and not have to worry about thechurch, not the church building
the people of God in JesusChrist, the church I encourage.
Look at the symptoms.
Look at your family line.
If your family line has, I'vealways been told oh, cancer just
runs through your family, soyou just need to be ready for it
.
Or that's just the way thingsgo for us, so we have this curse
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, or this is just part of beingwho we are.
Those are lies from the pit ofhell, but they were spoken in
ignorance, not really knowingthat they were speaking curses
over themselves and whoever theywere speaking to.
Again, deuteronomy 28,.
But if there's a pattern, justlike Scripture, if there's a
pattern going through and itgoes through generations, then
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there's probably a curse.
But even if you don't think itis, why not just get it checked
out, just to make sure theseguys aren't throwing any voodoo
magic?
They're not making things up.
They're doing this out of thelove for the Lord and what the
Lord's called them to do to helpothers step into freedom, so in
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that freedom they can helpothers step into freedom through
the power of Jesus Christ andthe Holy Spirit sealed within us
, leading and guiding an army ofChristians I guess the army of
Satan Because demons areorganized, they're energized and
they do not break rank, butChristians are really good at
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turning the guns in and shootingeach other.
So my encouragement I neverknew freedom could be like this.
I've struggled for as long as Iknow to have true freedom and
to understand true freedom andthe power of God's word in my
life, and Justin and these guyshave helped me to break free,
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truly break free, from cursesthat I had nothing to do with,
that.
I have been trying to renounceand break for years, trying to
find an answer.
I've found the answer and it'samazing what that answer is in
Jesus Christ and the name ofJesus.
Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
You may be demon
possessed and this is the first
time you're coming to therealization of it.
If that's you, I'd like toinvite you right now to go to my
website, justindeedcom, andbook a session with me.
Until next time, god bless.