Leveling Up Menopause: Brooke Burke on Thriving in Midlife, Wellness & Aging Gracefully

(00:00:00) Leveling Up Menopause: Brooke Burke on Thriving in Midlife, Wellness & Aging Gracefully
(00:00:54) How Brooke got started in entertainment
(00:04:31) Brooke's experience with "Dancing with the Stars"
(00:12:23) Brooke talks about testosterone
(00:16:18) Let your body be your guide
(00:16:19) Letting your body be your guide
(00:18:49) Brooke breaks down her non-negotiables
(00:45:47) Bringing it back to menopause
(00:51:43) What does exercise look like for Brooke?

In this inspiring episode of The Body Pod, wellness expert Brooke Burke joins Hailey and Laura to explore how women can thrive through menopause and midlife with strength, grace, and intention. Brooke opens up about her personal journey navigating perimenopause, hormonal changes, and aging—physically, emotionally, and spiritually.

Discover empowering tools for healthy aging, fitness during menopause, mindset shifts, and embracing the second half of life with confidence. Whether you're entering menopause or already in it, this candid, uplifting conversation is full of real talk, practical advice, and inspiration to help you feel your best at any age. 

🎙️ Topics: menopause, perimenopause, wellness, fitness, hormone health, midlife mindset, and aging well.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everyone. This is Haley and I'm Lara and welcome
to the Body Pod. Brooke Burke, Welcome to the Body Pod.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I'm so happy to be here. Thanks for having me in.
What a gorgeous space. Isn't this amazing Silver Lake Downtown
La worth it?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yes, I'm so glad that we can be here with
you in person. So I am dying to know you're
a little bit about your background. How did I know
you're from Arizona?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right? Let me take you on a walk down memory lane. Now,
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
You are the jack of all trades, and I just
want to know, did you know at an early age
that you wanted to be a TV personality, that you
wanted to have all of these different careers.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I never thought I would I never thought I would
land in the entertainment business. I was a total tomboy.
My father called me Charlie. We watched football and did
mechanical things, and I was everything that I'm not today.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I was always fascinated by business.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I always loved to learn, but didn't really grow up
in a family that prepped me for education and that
was privileged enough to take me on that journey. And
I honestly wound up in Hollywood and in the business.
I am by I don't want to say accident, but
like one step in front of the other. Never thought
I would be in television, nor did I ever want
to be. I thought I wanted to be a CEO,
which I am now, but that's how we manifest as

(01:32):
young girls. But I was always fascinated by business and
came out to LA from Arizona with an acting scholarship
and to just sort of dip my toes in the
world of modeling and advertising. Back then, I wasn't tall enough.
I was standing on my tippy toes trying to be
three inches taller than I am, So I was never

(01:53):
going to make it as a model, but I damn
faked it and that was my ticket out to LA
and then I never really I really looked back. But
I did study broadcast journalism and business advertising at in
Santa Monica and also at UCLA, and then I had
the opportunity to host wild On, so that took me
on a travel stint around the world. So I didn't finish,

(02:16):
but I took advantage of that once at a lifetime
opportunity and got my greatest education on the road.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, didn't you have an infant on the road month?

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I traveled with you on Wild on Eth.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, buzz kill everybody. I wasn't the quintessential party girl.
I was actually pregnant for most of the show, seeing
less and less and less of me, and as you
can imagine, parts of me were growing and growing and growing.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Pretty soon it was just boobs and face.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
But yes, I did forty countries with my daughter in
two years. How a zest for life that was reality
television before reality television. Took my oldest daughter, Mariyah on
the road with me and we were just a package deal.
We were a team and it was so fun and
so fering, and I honestly we were just joking around
before we started recording this podcast about how I did it.

(03:03):
I don't know if I would have done what I
did then now today, knowing what I know, I just
was not naive, but I was just maybe a little crazy,
but I didn't know better.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I didn't have friends with children.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I was just finding my own way, and I raised
her attachment bonding, never left her for five years.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Took her all over the world with.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Me, including like the Belizian jungle and Abisa in Italy
and Morocco. I mean she filled up her passport by
the time she was two. It was slightly crazy, amazing, beautiful,
just god, what a story she has to tell. Oh yes,
I made her a baby book called wild On Baby.

(03:42):
So just to show you, I was not the party girl.
I actually was with my child and a nurse in
my hotel room while the party was going on at
the club. So my life is really pretty boring.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
So what brought you? How long did you do Wild Honey?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
I did two years and then got pregnant with Sierra.
They're two years apart, and then I was like I
got to unpacked my bags and got off the road.
And then I went on to do a couple more
shows at E and then that segued into a network gig.
My first show was with Mark Burnett hosting rock Star,
which was amazing, so amazing, so fun on it was

(04:21):
celebrating undiscovered talent. I was terrified to do that show
and have that opportunity with him, but I learned so much.
And then just a whole series of other things, and
then probably the greatest event was Dancing with the Stars.
Dance I don't know, it was better dancing or hosting.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I was gonna die.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
I know.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
So you you danced first and then you hosted.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I danced first, which and you won somehow on a
Women of Prayer, I won, but I'll tell you how
and why I won. But my management team wanted me
to host the show, not dance on the show, and
I was like, you know what, as a host, I
wanted to dants on the show and see what it's
like and get to know America who I really am,

(05:04):
stripped down, unedited, doing something really scary outside of my
comfort zone. And I felt like that was a great
opportunity for me to really connect with women and moms
around the world. And I had a three month old
and I was my hormones. I was on a roller coaster.
I didn't know whether I was coming or going. I
had four children at home. My relationship was an stellar

(05:28):
at the time, I had a baby and I signed
up for The Impossible. It was a seven day a
week gig. People don't realize how hard it is. I
don't know if it's as hard today because they have
a lesser schedule, But at that time, we were live
two days a week, we were training seven days a
week performing two days.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
I had a baby and three other kids.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, and it was a lot, so like I would
get home and my night shift would start and I
was just grinding it out. It was the scariest thing
I've ever done in my life, dancing, So after.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, that would be mine show.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Well, I mean not only that you're being judged, fifteen
plus million people are watching it, you're doing something you've
never done before. I couldn't remember if it was left
foot or right foot. I was terrible at choreography. I
happened to have the greatest pro, Derek Huff at the
time ever, who was such a phenomenal coach.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
And teacher and meticulous hard so hard on me. I
could take it. I like tough love.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
He really demanded perfection, and I learned how to train
like an athlete.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
I was scared shitless. It was harder than childbirth.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And finally when we got in it to win it
about I want to say, like six weeks into the program,
everybody wants to injure themselves or quit that show.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
By the way, if you.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Get to the semi finals, you do and nobody will
ever talk about it. Cheryl Burke's a good friend of mine.
She has a very controversial podcast, so we talk about
it all. But everybody that goes on that show, it's
so hard to show it for yourself seven days a week.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
It's hard.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Physically, it's hard. Emotionally, it's hard to speak. Actually, it's
fricking hard. And then being able to train like that.
Every day you're injured, you're depleted, you're exhausted. My hormones
were raging. I wanted to go back to being mommy. Here,
I am trained, I was I was spent. Yeah, but
about midway through everything was falling apart, including my body,

(07:19):
my brain, my heart, my marriage and I'm kidding my
marriage was okay. It was actually a rock at the time.
But I had to just completely change my point of view.
And I think that's why athletes do so well, because
I had to retrain my brain, get in it to
win it, clutch under pressure, and show up to win
instead of dreading every day because it was physically painful
and emotionally exhausting. And Derek and I had a meeting

(07:42):
of the mine and where like, we're here, we might
as well win.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
How did it fail to win?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Surreal, unbelievable, a massive accomplishment, which is so silly because
like you're competing for a mirror ball trophy, but I
actually have to tell you it's one of the greatest,
greatest accomplishments of my life, which sounds so crazy, because
it taught me how to show up.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It taught me how to face my fear.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
It taught me how to pull it together when I
was crying and injured and I wanted to go home.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
It taught me how to not quit. It was an
example for my kids.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
It taught me how to do something I never thought
I could do, and one of the greatest, one of
the many great lessons. If you commit to something eight
ten hours a day every day, you could do anything,
Like I could go do stand up comedy and I'm
not funny, Like seriously, you could. After hosting that show, Wow,
that's what allowed me.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think the skill set to host. I mean, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
After dancing on that show, it gave me a new
set of tools to go on and host because I'm like,
I can do anything, and hosting wasn't scary in life,
hosting live televisions fricking scary.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
After doing that show, I was like, just bring it.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Bring it.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
It was easy. I couldn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
But that's why athletes do so well because they know
how to pull it together under pressure, right, they know
how to show up.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Okay, so we're going to dive right into moving on.
Let's let's dive into menopause, because menopause is having a
moment's having because we're in it?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Or is he just having a moment right are?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
We're forty seven, so we're definitely in perry. We're in
perry menopause. But this this space, it's uh, it was
never talked about. I mean, I don't know about your mom,
but my mom never. I had no clue, zero clue,
And it wasn't I don't think my mom had a clue. Yeah,
they weren't allowed to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I have a really great relationship with my mom. I'm
so fortunate. She's amazing open about everything. When I had
the talk with my mom, let me tell you, it
was a talk like you can't imagine. We're not going
to go there on this podcast.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
That's a whole other episode for us.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
But menopause never, I don't even know that that generation.
I don't think they knew that they were in it
when they were in it. And my mom's a very
natural woman, like doesn't even take aspirin, antibiotics never, so
never did anything to really treat those hormones. So I
feel like our generation grew up unprepared. No one told
us about weight training. We were sort of raised. Tell

(10:12):
me if you agree in a society that was like,
you're gonna feel lucky, you're gonna get bloated, you're gonna
be you're gonna be you know, grumpy, You're gonna feel
like crap once a week a month. Like That's how
we grew up. And I'm not raising my daughters like that.
So I'm on a whole nother dive of this. Some ladies,
this could actually be a really beautiful decade if you
approach it differently.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Okay, so what did you experience? How was your menopause
perimenopause experience?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
I started HRT before menopause. It funnies me too, funny story. Okay,
So it was at the end of my marriage and
we weren't really connected intimately.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
We were struggling.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
He thought that I was really grumpy and hormonal around
that time of the month. I'm kind of not, or
maybe I was, and I was in denial. I'm gonna
do some real talk with you, because some women we
don't admit or we're not even aware of what we're
in when we're in it. But I was usually pretty level.
I wouldn't really like lose my mind around PMS, and
I never really defaulted to use that as an excuse.

(11:14):
But I had low energy. My hips were a little achy,
my knees were like eh, I'm like, h shit, this
is the forties. Is this what it's going to be like?
I was training a lot, zero sex drive. But I
was also not super happy in my marriage. So honestly
a woman, I would I would probably say that was
more emotional than physical. But my ex who were very

(11:37):
good friends right now so I can speak about this openly,
he was like, we need to make some kind of
an adjustment. I'm going to do it. Do you want
to do it? Do you want to meet with this
hormone doctor. I'm like, Okay, it's not gonna say our marriage,
but sure, and so we did, and so I started
HRT and it was such an immediate and quick and
amazing fix for me. But my testosterone wasn't super low.

(12:01):
But I did a responsible panel because I never want
to go beyond what the norm is, whatever the hell
that means in western medicine, by the way, but I
want a cruise at optimal, at the very top of it.
Same way with my thyroid, same way with all my numbers.
Because life, kids, grind, work, we got stuff to do.
We had a lot to do. So I'm like, let
me cruise at the very top of whatever normal is

(12:25):
and then kicking off of you notches. But anyway, so
I started a testosterone game changer for me for energy, power, libido. Hell, yes,
probably the greatest time of my marriage on the left
during the last year event.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Okay, so this was like, this was like the miracle.
But did you had you started estrogen and progesterone or
you went on testosterone first.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
I went on testosterone first for power, for memory, for strength,
for everything. So it's really interesting and like, you know,
just to bust all the myths people think, you know,
it's just a vanity play, right, and it's just for
power and strength. I think testosterone helps so many things.
I slept better, I didn't have that brain fog. I
was more powerful, I was a little bit leaner. Of course,

(13:10):
I got like superhero power back quick.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I'm getting on Oh I'm starting the testosterone.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I haven't started that yet, really, no why, I mean,
just curious why every body is so different, but just curious.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Okay, you don't need it.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
To be honest. So I run these fat loss courses
and I am really using myself as a science experiment.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Amazing.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
And so because all of these women, they asked me
all the time, well, well, Hayley, what do you think
about HRT? I said, well, I can tell you what
my experts are saying, but I'm not on it, so
it's hard for me to give a straight answer. So
I started. I just barely started estrogen in December, and
then I started well, I started progesterone and then I

(13:55):
started estrogen in February, so I'm still like a newbie
on it. And then and I was kind of waiting
to get my blood work done and I don't have
two seconds in a day. You probably don't either. I
can't even get to the dentist, let alone get get
on testosterol.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I feel you.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
So it's just how it just hasn't happened for me yet.
But it's this is super reassuring.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Well, it's you know, it's so interesting because what works
for me might not work for both of you and
certainly everybody else. So I'm like a big believer, be
a detective, dive deep and try it.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
And you've got to listen to your body.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
And that body language concept for me isn't how we
carry our bodies.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
It's really how we speak to our bodies. What is
going on inside?

Speaker 2 (14:33):
And why? So I ask a thousand questions of myself
every day, not a thousand, but I ask ten questions
of myself every day. How am I feeling? Why am
I feeling that way? Am I fatigued? What's going on?
How's my sleep cycle? How's my body responding to my
nutritional choices? Am I being mindful? Am I giving myself
a chance to rest? And on most days there no,
there are no no, no, no no, And I'm like, okay,

(14:55):
why what can I tweak? What can I adjust? Can
I give myself grace? How can I do a little
bit better? And when I'm not, can I really roll
into that and then wake up tomorrow and be better.
So I'm just a big believer in even with my audience,
I would never tell women do this, I'm doing that.
I would say this is what I'm doing. This is
how I'm feeling. You got to really see what works

(15:16):
for you. So the testosterone amazing.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
I have the same experience. It's like it's been life changing.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
And then through menopause, I sort of felt like I
eased my way into it with a greater awareness. Then
I introduced estrogen and progesterone for sleep, and so now
I'm on that really good cocktail of the three. And
I do do my blood work regularly. And to just
humanize what you said, I.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Get the call you're due for your blood work, I
know I'll be there. Life is happening.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
It doesn't always happen, but I struggle with a couple
of different autoimmune challenges.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
So I do my.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Blood work every eight weeks like clockwork because of a
bigger issue.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
So I'm a pretty good patient.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
And I'll have hashimotos and I had thyroid cancer, so
my thyroid. It's really just important for me to do
that regular blood work, stay on top of it, be
a great patient, have an intimate relationship with my medical team,
and so I don't fuck around with that at all,
Like I don't stray from that. And then I let
my body be my guide and that's a little bit

(16:20):
dangerous of a conversation. I let my body be my
guide because I'm tuned into my body. I am deeply
aware of all the whispers that my body shares with me.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Okay, this is important because I work with women just
like you do. And one of the main patterns that
I have seen over working with thousands of women over
the last couple of years is the disassociation that we
have from ourselves. And so this resonated with me. When

(16:55):
I was watching a bunch of youtubes and different podcasts
that you had done. When you said be a detective,
I was like, that's what I say. Be a scientist.
Be a scientist and use yourself because it does not
matter what the research says, or what Brooke says, or
what Haley says or what Lars has what works for
you because there's not one size fits all for anything.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I agree, No, I agree.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
And so my whole philosophy on being that detective is
there's so much research out there anyway that's so difficult
to interpret, especially layman like we're just not if you're
not educated, I happen to.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Geek out and biohacking everything.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'm a geek and I love information, and I'm a
sponge and I'll ask a thousand questions because I want
to know, and I'll ask a few more, and I'll
surround myself with people that are much smarter than I
am because I like to learn.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I love to be a student.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
But a lot of it's intimidating, and if you don't
have the basis and the foundation and the language, it's
hard to really understand it anyway. So I think if
you deepen that awareness, if you have a greater intimate
relationship with yourself, you start to understand why am I
feeling this way?

Speaker 3 (18:02):
What's going on? How do I respond to that?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
And if you're someone like me and you're doing all
these great things, I couldn't really sit here and go, okay,
here's my ten daily rituals and you would say, well,
how do you feel on this and this?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I feel pretty damn good, but it's also the combination
of everything. But when I don't feel great, I really
start to dissect that, and I start to ask myself
a lot of questions. What's going on there? Do I
eat different? Am I not getting enough sleep? Do I
need more sleep?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Right now? Or are my hormones changing again? How's my mood?
How am I meeting my body? How am I speaking
to my body? How am I feeling my body? How
am I training my body? Is my body changing? And
damn it? It always is?

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Right? Always, God, the joy of being a woman, exactly,
fucking mother Nature.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Sorry, So it's one of your non negotiables, like in
your daily life sleep.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I take my sleep very serious.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh, we don't mess around. We were in bed by
eight pm.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'm the person that's like count the hours of sleep
than I'm But I have a lot of non negotiables.
And I love that you use that word because I
very rarely talk about habits and resolutions and all of
these things.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
It's really lifestyles for me.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
But daily rituals and non negotiables are so much easier
for people to process of what is non negotiable.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I have a long list of them, Like I'm.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Sounding a lot now because I want a detox in sweat.
Get in the sauna, people, even if you have to
go pay for some sauna time. You have two opportunities.
Sweat or you're in period if you want a detox period.
So you got a detox, right, sleep for sure. Meditation,
which is a big topic we're going to touch on,
that not easy. And I've learned how to meditate in

(19:46):
a way that works for myself, with a lot of
grace and a lot of flexibility.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
And I imagine.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
A Buddhist would probably argue that my meditation might not
really be meditation. My meditation fasting is non negotiable for me,
So I do a pretty long fast every day.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Okay, what is your not every day? Sorry? I had
breakfast in bed and all day yesterday.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Okay, So in the female space right now, there's intermitt
fasting and then that kind of get fused with the
you know, eating to your circadian rhythm, which is really
time restricted eating, which sounds exactly like intermittent fasting, but
it's usually a little bit. It's like sunrise, you know,
sun up to sundown, so kind of it's a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
And they are different people that are just skipping breakfast
because they're busy. That's not really intermittent fasting. Like it's
very intentional by fueling your body with great fats and
then also understanding the cellular repair opportunity in a fasting window.
But it's interesting what you said about circadian rhythm because it.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Is different other non negotiables.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Laughter is medicine.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
You said you weren't funny. I've already laughed.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah. I'm also just coming back from a retreat where
we did like guttural belly laughing. You know, joy, I
feel like oxytocin, you know, that love drug, that feel
good hormone that we get from connection, from sex, from orgasm,
from breastfeeding, from love, from touch, from hugging, all of
these amazing things that.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Happen in our body naturally.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
And happiness, laughter, Joy for me, that lights my spirit
on fire, that fuels my soul, that gives me energy,
whether it's with my girlfriends, with my man, by myself,
here with you, with my kids, something stupid, something funny.
I think that joy non negotiable. Learning how to create joy,

(21:41):
learning having little moments of happiness even on hard days,
but just finding things that bring you joy in your life,
whatever that is. I'm joyful. I want to make my
coffee in the morning. I drink a lot of coffee.
By the way, non negotiable, controversial. I know, I drink
a lot of macha. I drink a lot of coffee,
but it's actually like a ritual for me. It's not
that I'm addicted to coffee because I can have an

(22:02):
espresso and go to bed. I don't, but I could
sometimes I might. But my ritual is like smelling my
beans and grinding them and frothing my milk and putting
in my cinnamon and I like it really hot, and
I like it how I want it. But like making
it a ritual, right, And you know we've all heard
that saying that quote. I hate to be cheeky, but
like how we do anything is how we do everything.

(22:23):
So like even that experience that ritual, it's joyful. So
it does have to be big things, right, but like moments,
moments of happiness, kids, kissing my kids, talking my kids,
talking to my mom. I love my dog. I sweat,
I do yoga. Yoga's non negotiable for me, more of

(22:43):
a practice than a workout because I don't think yoga
really makes you fit. Sorry, yogi's but you know, I
strength train, I do a lot of different things for fitness,
but yoga's like my me time to get my therapy
and just do what I need to do.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It's my meditation.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Well, let's go back to meditation, because Haley and I
struggle with weird and.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's so hard for me to say still, I'm like,
I've had large list of one million things to.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Do, so I want to know what is your meditation
practice or how have you figured it out for yourself?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Meditation is really hard. I'm learning, I'm getting better at it.
I'm not great at it. I kind of make it
up as I go along, and I've learned how to.
Let's see, so guided meditation for me works like I'm
not a person that could sit still and just breathe
and do nothing. I believe in the doing of not doing.

(23:37):
By the way, the art of doing nothing is really
frickin' hard. I love it, but trying to do that
for more than two minutes probably impossible for women like
us until we decide that it's possible. But I've learned
how to accept the fact that my thoughts come in
and out. They're going to rise and fall, so I
just let them and I don't beat myself up about it,
like I'm not meditating. I keep thinking, I've got that list,

(24:00):
what about that to do? I'll go through my to
do list. Maybe that's the top of my meditation, not
that out of the way go through your list. You
can't stop thinking because you have eight d and you've
got shit to do, and you're probably sitting there going
I have stuff to do, and I'm sitting here trying
to mediate but my list. I'm trying to meditate when
I have so much to do. So I'll go through
my list. I'll do whatever I need to do. It
might take me two, three, four or five minutes before
I can really drop into a moment where I can

(24:23):
quiet down the noise and tell that voice inside my
head to shut the hell up and to just be.
And my meditation might be a journey with music. It
might be nature. It might be birds, it might be jungle,
it might be water. It might be sound therapy. It
might be an intentional frequency to help me stop thinking

(24:43):
and relax. It might be a walk. On some days,
my meditation might not be with music. It might just
be me and myself and mother nature and walking. I
do whatever I need to do, but I make sure
that I allow myself time to just breathe and chill
and be still.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
And it's not easy.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
On on my yoga retreat, we meditated twice a day,
which is a lot, and I meditated with women like
us who are grinding business women a lot, going on harder, harder,
to quiet down the noise and the chaos. It was
so beautiful to watch people give themselves space and the

(25:20):
gift of creating, of creating like a space within places
at home, whether it's your bedroom and you have one
little space that speaks to you, make it beautiful. Put
a little plant there, Put a little crystal there. Put
your favorite little blanket there. Something that you see that
actually calls to you, or maybe it's outside on your
terrace or your balcony or wherever you live or the park.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
You can take in some vitamin D. The more you
do it, the more you want.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
To do it. It feels so good to slow down
because when you slow down, something's going to come up inside.
Not your list, but like it needs to come up there,
just like hey, or that connection, that awareness, that relationship.
We did this really beautiful workshop. Yeh, super simple. It
was a question that I asked everybody during retreat time.

(26:04):
And I had never heard this question posed to me before.
And I went through with one of my girlfriends who's
just a brilliant influence on my life, and the question
was if your heart could speak, what would it say
if your heart actually had a voice, what would it say?
So in dropping into stillness and space and commitment for

(26:26):
yourself and quiet, just sitting there, lying there, walking to
do nothing and to ask yourself that question, that's so beautiful.
It was really emotional, deep into like giving your heart
of voice to communicate with you. And maybe your heart's saying, hey, hey,
you're not paying attention to me, or I'm doing great,
thank you, or hey, thanks for taking care of me,

(26:47):
or you're not listening.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Or i'm really full, or hey what about me?

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Or I need more or I feel love or thank
you or you never know, like have you ever asked
yourself that? No, we'll see it. And the reason why
we want to start crying is women is because we're
so credit taking care of everybody else, But are we
really checking in with ourselves. I would imagine that two
of you are amazing friends and mothers. I'm a great friend, Yeah,

(27:15):
I hope, I'm a great mom. I'd have to ask
my kids that. But we're so good at taking care
of everyone in giving and showing up whether we're sick,
we still show up and drive the kids at school,
don't we Sorry, I don't know how many men can
do that, but we show up. So I'm really slightly
obsessed in this concept and practice of working with women and.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Showing them how to shop for themselves.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Did you do this retreat more than once a year?
I know, I was like, the next.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
One, I will invite you to.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I would.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Actually, it's such a gift. It's like I wasn't raised
that way. My mom never taught me about that. I
never knew about this kind of work. I was just
mommying my whole life. I was last on the total
and I was doing pretty well in that space.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
By the way.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I thought, that's just how it is. I was cruising,
I thought I was doing great. I was really disconnected
and I wasn't aware of it, but it was. I
was doing really well in that space. That's how I
was able to host live television. I was greatly disconnected.
It's such a gift, and it's not to write a passage,
and nobody teaches us that.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
So I feel like self care is self love. Self
love is taking care of ourselves. It's showing up.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
It's time I do them three or four times a year. Yes,
please come, you have an open invitation. We're doing Costa
Rica February twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Can you imagine it's a year from now.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Okay, sign I'm signing up.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
If we can't figure something out in a year, it
could quite possibly be the greatest vacation ever ever. But
we do them local. We do him in Arizona, I
do him in Malibu. You could do a day treat
for God's sake.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Now I'm going to Costa Rica.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Come to Costa Rica. Costa Rica will change you.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I wanted to go for years and I never had it.
Come with me, Okay, Don and Don.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
One of the things that you also say about self
love is how do you talk to the woman behind
the scenes. And that's something that has really helped me
that I've learned from you.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Thank you. How do you talk to her?

Speaker 4 (29:13):
And I've been saying a lot to myself when I'm
going in a spiral of negative thoughts and help snap
me out.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
And I think that's beautiful cool.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I really appreciate that I coming from somebody like you
who's has a little a little one God, it's such
a gift in an act of service and a gift
you're just like showing up, putting yourself last, taking care
of your child, mommy, doing the best you can. You're
probably crushing it. Like looking at you, you're beautiful, you've

(29:44):
seem like you've got it all together.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
But I think what really happens is not me today,
but the.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Younger woman me and the younger me, the new mommy
me completely lost sight of that woman behind the scenes.
And I say that woman behind the scenes because she
gets lost a little bit because you're showing up and
you're doing all these things, and you're holding it together,
and you're running your household, you're running your life, you're
guiding your leading. I love that cho term, that chief
household officer, especially for those women that are stay at

(30:14):
home moms and think that they're not worthy.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I'm like, oh my god, you have the hardest job
in the show in the world.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Because when I go to work, I feel like I
get a break from cho at home. So I have
man respect for women who are full time mommying and
tremendous compassion when they're beating themselves up because they might
not feel like that's worthy or that role is. That
is the hardest frickin' job ever. And then you start

(30:42):
to lose sight of that woman behind the scenes, like
who was that woman before you became a wife or
a mother or a CEO or whatever you've chosen to do.
And I think that's why I love doing this work
with women, because watching that woman come back different because
we're older, we evolve, we grow, but watching that woman
find herself again, get that mojo back, rediscover, reinvent, reimagine, pivot,

(31:06):
change whatever wherever you find yourself. It's really interesting. I'm
toying whether I should share this with both of you
or not, but.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Well, I thank you, but why not?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Something really profound and I don't know if it's weird
but unexpected happened to me on this retreat because I
give so much and more guiding and I'm seven days
in like ten hours a day, mind body energy, working out, meditating, guiding, yoga, crying, laughing,
all of it.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I had this wild experience.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
In one of my meditations, I was guiding a guide,
I was doing a guided meditation, not important what it
was doing like a deep dive into stillness and giving
everybody a visual meditation where they could create something beautiful.
And the theme of this retreat was manifestation, so we
were manifesting all kinds of greatness, and I had this
wild experience. Maybe you'll relate to it since you asked

(31:58):
me the question about the woman behind the scenes. At
a table, I'm at the head of a table. It's
my table. It's like a dinner table. Okay, it's a
long table. And at this dinner all of me showed up.
All the different versions of me showed up at this
dinner table, meaning like the little girl, the little mean
It's like therapy. One on one. You go to therapy,
you go for ten years, twenty years, whatever.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I've done a lot of therapy.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
I don't even do therapy anymore because now I believe
in meditation and sound bath and I do my own
little hippie things about I get my therapy done in
non traditional ways. But having gone through that, you know
you can spend years reconnecting with the younger you. Okay,
we know that.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Good.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
So at this table, it was like the little me,
the bad me, the great me, the sexy me, the
slutty me, the married me, the bad ass me, the CEO,
like all of me. And I was like, whoa, And
so I'm having this dinner party table. It was a
vision sounds cuckoo, I know, literally allowing all the different
parts of my personality and all the different characteristics and

(32:56):
all the different versions of me to show up, And
so we went through. I had to share it obviously
because I'm in retreat mode and we're all like raw
and vulnerable, and as crazy as it sounded, it was
an amazing way to relate to all our different personalities,
all the different versions of ourselves. Like who do you
show up? Do you show up as the podcaster today?

(33:17):
Do you show up as the trainer? Do you show
up as mom? Do you show up his wife? Are
you the chef tonight? Are you the great friend? Are
are you the therapist? Are you the trainer?

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Like?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
We have all these different versions. And one of the
questions that I always ask women during retreat time is
who are you? Not like the titles that we've been
given from society, because you probably have a whole bio
list we all do, but.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Like, really who you are?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
And then if you could imagine the freedom to show
up differently every day? So I've been doing this every
single day, journaling really hard for me. I would love
to share this with you. We could do a whole
podcast but asking yourself every single day, who are you
showing up as today? And it's not like, oh, I'm
going to go pretend to be this. It's literally like

(34:02):
today I'm complete, today, I'm ready. Today, I'm a little
bit scared. Today, I'm in my divine energy. Today I'm
super feminine and sexy. Today, I'm like today, I'm just
showing up kind of uncertain. Today, I'm a badass. Today
I'm whatever it is. And then it allows you to

(34:23):
just fucking show up different every single day. It was amazing.
So we did a whole workshop.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
I know I have I got a therapy.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'll do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
All right, let's take a quick break to hear from
some of the body Pod sponsors. We'll be right back. Okay,
So you come back. Is there a time when you
come back that you need to integrate back into the
world after you've had this twelve days in Costa Rica.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
It's really And what we do on our final day
is create a purposeful plan because you can drop out
of your world as you know it and go do
something really deep like that and then have to just
come back and your family's waiting for you. Your list
just got longer, You're behind on a thousand emails. Your
man's waiting for you, and you've changed and you're coming

(35:20):
home different, but nobody else has. And when we expect
that everybody is going to change with us, it's really
disappointing and it will really fuck you up. So I
have to go through this whole purposeful plan with everybody
and warn them that they have to sort of ease
into it, and I walk the talk and I go
through it myself. So my man came to Costa Rica

(35:42):
to see me the last two days, and I'm already
prepared for that, like I'm in my divine energy. I've
been with sixteen women. I'm completely vulnerable, available, I'm like
a goddess. But I am not ready for masculine energy
to roll in. I'm not even prepared for this. So
it's kind of like tiptoe and you have to ease
into it. And I think as we evolve and we

(36:04):
grow as women and we learn, we really have to
I think my opinion is that we have to not
expect people to.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Be ready for that and to change with us, but
we have.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
To demand alignment in our inner circle so that we
surround ourselves with people not who are going where we're going,
but allow us to go where we're going.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
And it's really hard because not everybody's going to show
up with you, but we have to be able to say,
I'm kind of in it right now when I'm going
for this, So can you just give me some grace
or I'm going to borrow my friends writer, because I've
used this line so many times in business and it
has saved my ass, and I've used it in my relationship.
Everybody write down this line. If you're listening. The line

(36:50):
is I'm shoving up differently and here's why. And I
need you to show up differently for me, because who
is going to argue with that? Because the younger me.
And when I say younger me, I'm talking about six
months ago me. I remember being like, I'm doing all
these things and like nobody's rising to the occasion. I've
learned all this and yeah I'm grinding and yeah I'm harder,

(37:10):
and nobody else is like keeping up and like, but
I thought everybody's just going to show up like me.
So I had to say I'm showing up differently because
of X Y and Z, So I kind of need
you to meet me, like I need you to like
level up if you can with me, or just understand
that I'm showing up differently and it's hard when you
come back from change, you grow, you evolve, we change,

(37:36):
or we stay the same.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, is the message usually received? Well? Does it ever
make anyone pause and take stock? Even almost you know.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Not everybody understands, Like I had to learn how to
accept all of the different personalities in my household because
I have six children at home right now, six that
feels like.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Twenty not twenty.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, and a man and animal. It's okay, But if
I was expecting everybody to show up at family dinner
because I've made this gorgeous dinner, I want everybody to
sit down at five o'clock and be happy.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
We're gonna sit down at the table and connect and
we're gonna talk tonight.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
And they're like, they're on a completely different story than
I have just choreographed for my family. And I used
to be so disappointed as a younger mom, Like I
worked so hard on this meal, and you guys have
been gone at school and I've been traveling. We haven't
seen each other and how come everybody doesn't want to
just sit around the table and connect.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
It's like our conference room. We're gonna have a meeting tonight.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's mandatory. It was not negotiable.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
No one was interested in my meeting.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
So I've had to like learn and work so hard
at this, and I'm still working hard on it. How
to allow everybody to just show up where they are.
And then I want everybody to allow me to show
up where I am. And I think that's you know,
I'm fifty three. I think that's I've learned to do that.
I've learned to accept all the different personalities around me.

(39:01):
But I've also learned how to define my boundaries and
to ask for what I want and what I need,
or to give everybody a gentle warning, like I can
say to my man, now, just a little heads up,
I'm not feeling great. I'm super tired, I'm edgy, I'm hormonal,
I'm not in the mood.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Heads up.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Where before before, I mean, we've all been through that.
You're giggling, but it's like before you're like a tiger,
you're like mama bear. But as soon as I think
you learn how to understand all that and then give
it some verbiage, give it a dialogue. People do great
if you ask. People do great if you ask of

(39:40):
them what you need. But as women, do we really
ask for what we need? Or do we just figure
it out and multitask the hell out of it and
then get frustrated.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
When no one's giving us what we need?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
A loaded, loaded question, But I mean, what do you think?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well, okay, here's here's where my mind just went. You
mentioned boundaries, and this this is something that I have
struggled with my entire life. I did not know boundaries.
I didn't I was just I was the people pleaser,
you know. I did what everyone asked me to do
my whole life up until maybe four years ago. And

(40:16):
I'm still working on it. I'm not great, but I'm
still working on it. And I wanted to ask you
about your boundaries and how you've taught because you have three,
you have daughters, how have you taught them to trust
themselves and to be firm with boundaries and that it's
okay to have boundaries.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, you know, before you asked them that question. I
want to ask you a question just because I think
it's important for listeners.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Were you raised that way? Did your parents?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Were you a pleaser because you were trying to make
everything good and be good because it was easier.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I grew up in functional chaos, so I would say yes,
I was the people pleaser because it was the easiest.
It was the easiest personality to blend in and not
have to the rest of my siblings push back and fight,
and I was just like.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Mediating, surviving.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yes, so I was a similar child a lot of chaos.
I think that's why I'm able to witness without judgment
a lot of different personalities and what people bring to
bring to the table, because I witnessed so much chaos
growing up. But it's it's an amazing skill set to

(41:32):
be able to unapologetically create boundaries for yourself because if
you do, and if you do it with integrity, and
you do it elegantly. Maybe that's not the right word,
because sometimes mine not so elegant, But if you can
do it in a way.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
It doesn't have to offend exactly.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
It's like tone and timing. I like this T and
T concept. How do you ask for what you need?
What's the tone of it, the timing of it? But
less than even asking for what you need. How are
you worthy enough to be able to say these are
my boundaries, my non negotiables, and this doesn't work for me,
or this is the only way that it works for me.

(42:14):
I need you to be different, I need you to
do this. I am doing this differently, and I'm setting
this boundary because I'm taking care of me in this space.
I try to teach my daughters to use their words,
to live out loud, and to be unapologetic. And it's
really interesting to watch them navigate their life different fathers.

(42:34):
So two of my children, four of my children have
two different fathers, and Scott has two children, So we
got a lot of personalities and a lot of different
styles that I have to accept because they're different than
my own. Right, So I'm only bringing, you know, my
mindset to raising and rearing our family.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
But I'm teaching them.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
How to take ownership, take responsibility, be accountable yes, yes,
but not to apologize for everything that goes wrong when
someone's disappointed. And most people think you just say sorry,
which means you haven't really stood your ground. It's a
really hard lesson and it's interesting you ask it because

(43:14):
I'm in it, right, now with my daughters where they're like, well,
it's just easier to just say sorry, I'm like super generous.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Totally get that true choice.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
But the other choice would be able to sort of
take ownership in your behavior and maybe apologize for how
the other person's feeling, but not necessarily how you showed up.
And it's really tricky, and I think creating boundaries. I'll
give you an example. As a mom, because I have
so many children, I'm always going to miss something always,
which is heartbreaking as a mother. You don't want to

(43:46):
miss that play, don't want to miss that track me.
You don't want to miss that first game. And if
I can organize my life when I'm able to with
work in the industry, sometimes I have flexibility. Other times
I'm booked on the job. It's non negotiable. I don't
have a choice, and so I'm often torn. Right, I'm
often torn, and I have that work life mommy guilt. Okay,
I've learned how to not be guilty, but it sucks

(44:08):
when you have to miss something aportment important. So what
I do to navigate it now that I didn't do
in my thirties and forties because I didn't know how
I was doing the best I can and beating myself
up for what I couldn't do. Now I just say,
I'm doing the best I can, and everything in your
life is really important to me, and I'm going to
schedule every single track me in, every single game and

(44:29):
every single event that I could be at. But I
have to do these things so that we have this life.
So you get to do that because I'm doing this
and it really hurts me and I really want to
be there, but I need you to give me some grace.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
And I really want to be there.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I really really want to be there, and I can't
be there at that It's like it's really really hard.
When I was in Costa Rica, my son had his
first track meet and I scheduled my retreat a year ago,
and trust me, I was like bleeding inside. My arm
was breaking because it's so important to him and he's
worked so hard and he's like, Mom, how can you
miss my first track meet? You know, you want to
like cry, and then you feel like you're failing and

(45:06):
you feel like what the hell? And I said, well,
because I booked this retreat a year ago before you
were running track, because last year you were playing football.
So it wasn't And this is how the grown up
me talks. It wasn't my intention, and I really want
to be there, and I'm going to schedule all your
track meets and try.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
To work around it. And I'm really sorry.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
And I was so upset inside and he got it,
and I'm like, and I need you to support me
in this, just like I want to support you.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
And it's hard, but it's that dialogue. But vocalizing you
are powerful.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
I put for them and freeing for you as a
woman with everything, with life, with love, with work.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Think of how much we hold inside as women, and
then we build resentment we don't communicate. So bringing it
back to menopause, to our body, to that detective to awareness.
What if we're not dialoguing with our own body, what
if we're not having that relationship. What if we don't
have boundaries for our own Boddy like sleep, you ask
me what's non negotiable? First thing that came up? What

(46:01):
if I'm so tired and I'm grinding. There's gonna be
times seasons where we're grinding. Too many opportunities to turn down,
too much travel, So you got to fuel your body, eat.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Better, try to. But we're human.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
I would say, when possible, I try to drop into
I need to sleep. When I'm sleepy, that means get
off the phone, you're not scrolling, limit the screen time,
create a rest nest, black it out, light that candle,
get your sense memory, t get into an aps and
salt bath. I have to put a do not disturb
on my door sometimes for my children. I'm like, I

(46:36):
need ten minutes, guys, But in ten minutes I can
get everything done.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Then I need to ten minutes. I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah, don't even think about knocking on this door. That's
my boundary unless you're bleeding or there's an emergency.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
If you're not dying.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
If you see they do not disturb, you do not
come in. And that goes for other things too.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
But I want to know what the rest nest is.
You put your phone to bed.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I have so much work to do at all times,
and because I run a digital business, it would never end.
So I shut down at night, so I put my
phone on do not disturb. My children crucify me all
the time because sometimes I forget and the phone is
on do not disturb. And again I'm like, I'm doing
the best, I can stop calling so much.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
And I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
They override my do not disturb now because we fight
about that. But I do shut my phone down at
night so that I can stop working at night by choice.
If I have to do something or I have a deadline,
I work that out with myself, but I make myself
shut down so that I can rest and recover and
then I can accomplish more during the day.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Okay, so have to do it.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
I want to talk to you about your digital business
because you have a fitness app, and is that the
digital business you're talking about or yeah, maybe there's multiple ones.

Speaker 5 (47:53):
That I've met.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Okay, so what made you well, First of all, let's
talk about your fitness and what made you want to
do that. I mean, it seems natural for me.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
It's such a it's such a big business right now
in oversaturated market, and I feel like there's an app
for everything, right but.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I think it's been eight years now. I can't believe it.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
At a time when I was traveling, I was in
Europe and I love to work out, and people don't
really go to the gym as much as they do here.
They're very much nature mobile. It's just different made nature mobility.
You get what you can, or you go outside and
do something, do something probably better than going to a
gym circuit. So I found myself at a villa. I
was with my children. I took a cushion off of

(48:37):
the pool chair. I'm like, I'm gonna get my workout
and I'm going to use this. I'm gonna use a chair,
I'm going to use steps. We were on a boat
for a little while. I'm gonna work out of the
bow of the boat. Call me crazy, I'm going to
do what I need to do. And so I was
creating some content on social media and I'm like, I'm
just going to share this, and I got a great response,
and I was like, Wow, what if I can teach
people how to work out anywhere, anytime, busy people like me,

(48:57):
and show them how to how to get it done
without all the uses in a short amount of time,
to do it efficiently, compound moves the kind that we
all do now, which is a new thing, and change
their body and care for their body and just carve
out a moment of time that's going to create energy.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
That's how it started.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
And then I came home and I was actually going
through my divorce. That was my gentle therapy. All I
did was create content, and I had so much energy
and my adrenaline was off the charts. But I just
created and created and created content and built a library
and then finally launched the app. And I love it
because I connect with women. I connect with women. We

(49:35):
do a weekly meeting. It holds me accountable. It's really
like our little tool guide for each other. I love
to teach, I love to connect. It really gives me
great purpose in the space that I'm in in fitness
because people are changing, and people have a safe space
and they can do it at home. They can get
their mojo back, they can build their confidence, they can

(49:57):
start small, they can do something, they can dow impact.
They can use weights or no weights. They can create
a space at home that really just speaks to them
and care for themselves instead of getting into a car
and driving and spending a fortune. I do. You know,
not everybody can afford the type of work that we
do one on one, But I think there's so much

(50:17):
content out there on YouTube, there's so much free content,
there's so many apps out there.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
You just got to find something that you really respond to, and.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
The live streaming possibility is super fun because you can
be with me in my live stream studio, in my
basement or in my kitchen working out like we're two
girlfriends in a studio.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
It's really weird.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
It was weird at first, but the live streaming is
a great way to connect with people.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Okay, I've got to start well. First of all, the
live streaming so is that all of your programs? Are
they all you? Are they following you through the whole program?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
They're following me through the whole program. I do a
live stream every week where I do a live class
the way I teach classes because I love to. But
I'll light it up for a live stream so you
could join in real time and you can also replay
it if your life schedule doesn't allow. But I'll forgive
an example. I do a meeting every Monday at eight
thirty in the morning for free. I give my time
for free every single Monday for everyone that's a subscriber.

(51:12):
And it's actually a zoom meeting. So you've got hundreds
of women connecting on a zoom not talking because we
have to mute them. You know how crazy that would
be to get everybody chatting on a zoom I'm talking.
They're using the chat box or they'll unmute themselves. But
we talk about what's working, what's not, what we like,
what we want more of. They take ownership in the app.
What do you want me to choreograph this week? How's

(51:32):
it going, what are you struggling with? How do you feel?
And it's this amazing sharing from women and every single
woman is helping another woman who's going through the same thing.
So I love that power of community for me, that
makes me want to do more of this type of work.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
It's really powerful, really powerful.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
So what does your if we were to look at
a week of your fitness. We know you do yoga,
we know you have your app, but what do you do?
Do you do like X amount of strength they x
amount of cardio? What does your week look like?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
My cardios really changed over the last few years. It's
interesting because I have more of a rhythm and a flow.
I mean, I sweat and I do a lot of
deep core heat work like that hourglass figure, corset core,
like deep pelvic like strength training, core work. So I'm
doing this corset core series that I really believe in
that I started in menopause when belly fat started showing
up for no reason. And I'm super fit, So I

(52:25):
say that delicately because I'll get CRUs stuff. I'm like, oh,
I bellie fat.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
But we all do the visceral past.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Sorry, fact everybody.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
So I don't care how much you weigh or what
you're going through one day. Yeah damn it. You eat
the same, you train the same, your body starts changing,
So I'm like, what the F. So I'm going to
get down to business and face this and start training
differently and changing differently with my body. So my cardio now,
I'll do some cardio blasts that could really just be
a couple of minutes, but it's more of the flow

(52:54):
and the rhythm. I'll strength train once a week only
because I need to maintain my muscle mass. And I'm
not afraid to wait, like every woman's afraid to waight
train because I think they're going to be muscular. And
there's all these weird myths. And I promise you, if
we would have been taught to weight train before we
got into menopause, it would have been a whole lot easier, lean, muscle,
bone health, the whole nine yards I don't have to

(53:15):
tell you, but.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Big up daughters are going to be badasses.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I'm like they got you. We got the message to
eat very little and through cardioc which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
So I eat more now than I've ever me too
ate in my life. I eat twice amount of protein
than I've ever had in my life. I'm smaller, leaner, stronger,
and I lift weights now, which I never would have
done before.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
So I'll do yoga.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
I'll try to do a yoga class a week if
I can, because I love to be a student, because
it makes me a better teacher. I don't always get
that privilege. I'll heat up my room, I'll put on
some red light therapy in there. I'll bite girlfriends over.
I'll live stream it. Hopefully you're going to come. We laugh,
we sweat, we kick our ass. We worked the burn
we were, We work past the burn. It's like forty

(54:02):
five minutes of therapy for me of everything I need,
and then I feel one hundred times better than when
I started. The other side of that burn, the other
side of that push, the other side of that excuse,
the other side of that.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
I don't have time.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Such bs, you don't have time not to work out.
I tell them everybody that you do not have time
not to work not work out.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I do it for my spine. I do it for
my bones, I do it for my brain, do it
for my butt. I really do it for my overall
well being. More than the body. Yeah, more than the body.
I could teach people how to get into bikini shape,
Like have I really done my job? But what if
I show you how to change your mindset? What if
I show you how to feel better? The world of fitness.
It's like such a big conversation. But really, my workout,

(54:43):
so my whole fitness routine is so much more than
just the body.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
It's my mindset.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
It creates energy, dopemine, adrenaline, oxytocin.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
It makes me feel good. It's really my therapy.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
And like forty five minutes, I can get everything done,
you know, and build a little booty and say all
the body. But it's mindset for me, like I gotta
do it. I don't have time not to do it.
I do not have time to not work out.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Speaking of body, how has sex evolved for you over
the years and is it better now in your fifties?

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (55:18):
God, sex is so much better in the fifties.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yes, this is good news. Yes, how has evolved? How
is sexy?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I mean, God, I'm trying to think of what would
be better having sex with the twenty year old me
or the fifty year old It has gotten so much better, deeper,
more connected, more emotional, more spiritual, Like all all of
me shows up now. Honestly, that's really what it is.
I'm bringing all of me to that experience. I mean

(55:47):
Lucky Scott because he's getting a much better version of me. Sorry,
David Garth's not even in this equation. But I'm joking.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
I don't know how getting in trouble.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
But I'm not joking. Yeah, because we learn about our body,
you know, And I think as soon as we can
put a dialogue to that and how you show up
in that space, it's just complete and I how to
ask for what I want and how to get what
I need, a more complete experience. I mean to be continued,
because I'm just going to scratch the surface.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I'm just gonna say, I can't believe we have to end.
I have so many follow up questions.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Okay, please, I would love that because we could talk
for hours obviously, this is what happens when three women
get together with an open mind and heart.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
I love this conversation. Encore, please y yes, thank you
so much.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
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part too. Thanks for listening.

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