March 18, 2025 • 32 mins
The Bold and Brilliant Podcast with Tracie Root, with guest Lisa Condon
🎧 Episode Summary: In this episode of the Bold and Brilliant podcast, Tracie is joined by Lisa Condon, a life strategist and business coach. Lisa shares her inspiring journey from corporate life to creating a fulfilling career helping others discover their purpose, values, and passions. Lisa also talks about the bold decision that transformed her work with clients and how she helps them achieve their personal and professional goals through value-based and gratitude-focused conversations.
✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
--How Lisa made the bold decision to shift from corporate life to coaching and consulting
--The importance of identifying core values and how they guide life and business decisions
--How gratitude practices can transform the way we think, feel, and act in our businesses
--Lisa’s approach to breaking down layers and helping clients tap into their authentic selves
--The transformative impact of integrating personal values into professional life
--The ripple effect of self-care and living authentically in both personal and professional spheres
🛠️ Actionable Tips from Lisa Condon:
--Do the work to uncover your true values. Often, the values we think we have are influenced by others and not our authentic selves.
--Start small with change. Focus on your top one or two values to begin with and integrate them slowly into your life and business.
--Practice gratitude regularly to shift your mindset and create new neural pathways for innovation and growth.
--Embrace vulnerability and authenticity. When you show up as your true self, you're more likely to attract what aligns with your values and purpose.
🎤 Memorable Quote: "When you step into the world in your vulnerable, authentic way and space, that’s where you're going to make great change. And that’s where you're going to live into your purpose." – Lisa Condon
🔥 Bold Moment of the Episode: Lisa shares the bold moment when she decided to introduce a more personal and vulnerable approach to her corporate clients, starting with a woman who had been emotionally "shut down" by the demands of her corporate life. This decision led to transformative conversations and changes, both personally and professionally, for her client, who eventually left her corporate career to become an artist.
📱 Connect with Lisa Condon: You can connect with Lisa and learn more about her work by visiting her page on the Gather Community website: https://www.thegather.community/LisaCondonÂ
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Tracie Root (00:00):
Are you ready to take bold action and live a life
(00:02):
of brilliance?
Welcome to the bold andbrilliant podcast where women
leaders share inspiring storiesabout daring decisions that
shape their businesses, theirlives, and their careers.
In this episode, I'm with thefabulous and amazing Lisa
Condon.
Lisa is a lover of life,adventurer of spirit, and
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cultivator of collaboration.
As a business coach and lifestrategist, she thrives on
helping businesses find theirheart, and people discover their
passion through value andgratitude based conversations.
Lisa is an award winninginternational speaker and
author.
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She is professionally trained asa Six Sigma black belt and scrum
master and integrates tried andtrue processes into all the work
she does.
Diving into life headfirst, youcan find Lisa with her husband,
Nate, traveling the world orsitting by a fire, watching the
stars.
(01:08):
As we talk, you'll hear Lisashare one bold decision that has
created her path on what wasnext.
Her story of resilience, risktaking and transformation will
inspire, encourage and supportyour personal and professional
growth.
Welcome Lisa to the Bold andBrilliant Podcast.
All right, Lisa, welcome to theBold and Brilliant podcast.
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I'm so glad you're here.
Lisa Condon (01:34):
Tracie, I'm so glad to be here with you.
What a way to start my weekend.
I'm so excited.
Tracie Root (01:39):
I know.
It's Friday today and it is,it's like when you get to do
something like this on a Friday,I feel like it's the pre
celebration before.
The life gets to really begin,which is not to say our work is
not a fun also, but there'ssomething about that break of
having a really greatconversation with a friend with
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a colleague that sets you up forwhat's to come.
And of course, we're going totalk about bold decisions and
those kinds of things as we goforward, which also sets us up
for what's to come.
So that's like a fun combinationthere.
But before we do that, I wantpeople who haven't met you yet
to get to know a little bitabout you.
(02:23):
So tell us a little bit aboutyour journey to doing what
you're doing.
I've already talked about, thatyou are a super adventurous
spirit and you're working andyou have all these trainings and
like super.
Like base of your skill set thatyou bring to your clients and
everything, but tell us aboutyou and how you got here.
Lisa Condon (02:44):
I would love to, and it's so funny when I hear
that, I've got to tell peoplethat haven't met me yet.
I'm like, why haven't I meteverybody yet?
I want to meet everybody in theworld.
So so my journey, I would sayinteresting for me, but I also
think there's a lot of.
Things that people will resonatewith because they've gone
through it themselves, right?
So I was in the corporate worldin the newspaper industry.
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1 day, because things weren'taligned.
It didn't feel right anymore.
And I've been climbing thecorporate ladder at that point.
I decided to leave and that wasafter a course of time where
people kept asking me, do youconsult?
No, do you freelance?
No.
And then one day, the answerwas, yes, I do.
And that was after a pretty badday.
And so that just started thatnext trajectory of now, what do
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I do now?
I said, yes, what does that looklike?
And so that was a lot of fun.
But, as I progressed, and as Ireally expanded into the work
that I really want to do, and Ithink like many entrepreneurs,
We do things at the beginningthat we can do it.
Maybe we shouldn't be doing it.
Maybe we don't love it, but itwas the just because I can
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doesn't mean I should have.
Now the work that I do, and thisis, been going on for a really
long time, right?
The 17 years ish, where I do alot of work in helping my
clients, both in life andbusiness around their core value
systems and helping to identifythat.
I do a lot of work in thegratitude space as well, but we
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set that up as the foundationfrom which to build your
strategic plan in both businessand life.
And walking through.
That blueprint for them of howdo we get from where you are now
to the purpose filled work thatyou want to be doing while
you're here on this earth andwhat are the steps to get there
and then making them reallyincremental.
(04:35):
So they can be truly impactful.
And that just lights me up everyday.
Tracie Root (04:42):
Love what I do.
That's amazing.
I have a question.
So if you're working with peopleabout what's their next step?
What, how are they going to moveforward?
But then you start talking withthem about what lights them up.
Are you finding that people?
Didn't like, do they expectthat?
Do they think that they justwere looking for a checklist?
(05:05):
I feel if I think back to mycorporate days to who wouldn't
recognize me, as I am today in alot of ways, but if I think back
there and like the executives inthose companies, and if you
started talking to them about.
What's your passion and all ofthat?
I think they're socompartmentalized.
So what was that?
To start to offer them thosethought processes around what
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their expectation is like, moreregimented.
Lisa Condon (05:34):
Yeah, that's a great question because number 1,
it's scary.
The 1st time you do it and startopening up that conversation.
Especially when you have thatcorporate background, that
people are going to have certainthoughts and certain feelings
about those types of questionsyet, being somebody that has
really been very intuitive myentire life and really tapped
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into.
Other things, just taking intoaccount what's going on and
energies and that type of stuffthat it's really impactful.
So I would use that work andjust not tell people I was doing
it.
Once I started opening up thoseconversations, and usually it
wasn't the 1st conversation,usually it was the 2nd or 3rd,
(06:17):
it was amazing.
How people they didn't expectit, even though some of them
came to me after hearing mespeak, right?
You would think that they wouldexpect it and anticipate it, but
they didn't.
And I think those tend to bethose tipping points for a
different type of conversationthat gets very real and very
deep.
(06:38):
And that's where the magicstarts to happen.
So now it is an absolute mustpart of the work that I do.
And even though again, steppinginto that 1st conversation,
there's still a little fearbecause you never know what the
reaction will be and yet.
And I've seen them all.
(06:58):
Trust me.
I've seen every reaction to it.
But then we get real.
It's stripping off the layersand getting to the true heart of
the individual.
And until we can get to thatspace, you're not going to build
anything in life or businessfrom a truly.
Vulnerable authentic space andyeah, and so we spent years,
(07:20):
Tracie, like building up theselayers.
I helped strip them off.
Tracie Root (07:24):
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm imagining, you're workingwith this.
I imagine it being a guy, right?
You're working with this guybecause when I think corporate
executive who isn't in touch.
With those kinds of thoughts, Ithink about this guy in a suit,
right?
It's just the image of my mind.
And so you introduce the ideaswithout really saying you're
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going to introduce the ideas,but then one day you decide,
look, I'm going to lead withthis as part of how I'm going to
help this new person who doesn'teven know me yet.
So that is, as we say, a superbold decision, because you don't
know how that's going to bereceived by these, this client
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type that you've been workingwith already.
So tell us about like the firsttime you decided consciously to
make that shift with a newclient.
Lisa Condon (08:20):
Sure.
And it's interesting that youconjure up a man in a suit.
Because the first time I did itwas actually with a woman who
was very corporatized and I, awoman in a suit and I saw so
much of myself in her becausewhen I was in the corporate
space, there wasn't space forfeelings or there wasn't space
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for any of that.
type of conversation.
It was about climbing the ladderand balancing the budget and
doing all the things andchecking all the boxes.
And so this woman, while we werehaving a conversation I didn't
even start out that way.
We were having our conversation,we were doing the same old, or
so it felt to me, and we weren'tgetting anywhere.
(09:01):
The baby steps were happening.
But there was a blockage and Ifinally just said, listen, we
need to have a different type ofconversation because there's
something that's blocking youright now.
And I think we just need to talkabout it.
And so it actually came from aplace of knowing that there was
more and I needed to pull itout.
(09:22):
And all of these othertechniques that I had been
trained on and learned about andtook classes on, none of it was
working.
And so I had to step into thisother space of.
Other work that I have done,very spiritual work, very, a lot
of energy work, that type ofthing.
And I just, I had to just lay iton the table.
And I finally was like, so areyou open to that?
(09:45):
So after I did this like delugeof we've got to do this and then
it was, oh, wait, are you opento it?
And the look on her face waspriceless.
She was a deer in headlights.
And with some of the questionsthat I asked her about, what is
your purpose?
What are you feeling when you dothis?
She just looked at me deer inheadlights and then very
(10:06):
quietly, and this was a verybold woman said, nobody's ever
asked me that.
And did she have an answer?
Not really, not in that moment,but as we started diving into it
and having those conversations,she started really digging into
who she was at the core and whatstill resonates with me, Tracie,
(10:29):
too, is you could physicallysee.
The hardness, the shell that shehad built around herself from
years and years of being in thespace that she was in, it was
melting like she just becamesofter.
Her face became softer.
Her words became kinder toherself and how she was
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describing the things that shewanted to do.
It was beautiful.
It was a really beautifulmoment.
And I, I still talk to her tothis day.
And her life is completelydifferent, like 180 completely.
What is she doing now?
I just, I have to know.
Yeah.
So funny enough, she steppedinto her artistic space.
She had this whole creative sideto her.
(11:12):
So she's now, she's an artistjust that kind of that world for
herself.
Now she came from a place ofaffluency.
So she left the corporate world.
She had done a lot of savingand.
She was able to say, I don'twant that anymore.
And this is what I want formyself.
So that's what she does.
And she's a, I love that.
(11:33):
My art geek self is happy.
Oh, that's true.
I didn't even think about that.
Absolutely.
Oh, that's so great.
Yeah.
So yeah, she's it's good.
It's really good, but.
But I think that's where when wetalk about, especially with all
we have gone through, and youand I were talking a little bit
about this, it's been five yearssince our world's changed.
And as we've come out of it, somany people had opportunity to
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go back to what they were doingand how they were doing it or
create and continue the changethat they started.
And I'm watching.
Unfortunately, a lot of people.
Moving, going back to what theyknew and the habits of what they
knew.
And those are the conversationsI love to have.
Because why let's talk about whyyou chose to do that and not
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live in this space.
That was bringing you joy for solong.
And.
Yeah, and just dive into thosediscoveries, right?
And have those conversations.
Tracie Root (12:29):
Yeah, it's so interesting.
I think that, 1 year, the nextyear, you're holding on, you're
trying to do the things andthen, maybe it's not going as
great as you imagined it wouldit's those unmet expectations
and and then it's not what Ithought it was going to be.
It's too hard.
And somehow going back to theway things were, which you can't
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really do seems easier to somepeople and it's, I think it's
because just tell me what to doas opposed to creating it
yourself.
The whole, just tell me what todo.
I can't make another decisiontoday.
Give me a job
Lisa Condon (13:11):
and I think I, yes, to everything you said, and I
also think to really step outinto the world as your true,
vulnerable, authentic self isvery scary because when there's
that fear of rejection or peoplenot understanding you, or people
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don't like it when you changeand they want you to stay the
same forever.
So it's all of those things thatcome with it.
And yet at the same time, whenyou step into the world in your
vulnerable, authentic way andspace, that's where you're going
to make great change.
And that's where you're going tolive into your purpose.
And people are going to see thatand experience that.
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And you're bringing your.
Slice of magic to the world thatyou're living in, and that's not
easy, and it is scary in everysense of the word, but when
you're able to do it and live itand breathe it day in and day
out, it's so beautiful, and itactually is easier because then
you've just shed off all theother stuff that you just don't
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need.
Tracie Root (14:14):
The thought that I had after this tale is.
I know that you mentioned in thebeginning gratitude values.
So talk about, you ask theseclients, these questions you've
moved into really helping peoplecrack through the shell that
they had.
I love that visual.
It feels so absolutely spot on.
(14:35):
So tell us about the gratitudeand the value stuff and how that
has morphed into where you arewith it today, because it's.
It's how you show up every dayand tell it.
So tell us how you use that whenyou're working with people and
how that came to be.
Lisa Condon (14:54):
Yeah.
And it came to be in 2 differentways.
So the value piece is a littlemore it's an easier path to talk
about, right?
Because, yeah, it's moretangible, right?
Because I was in a leadershipprogram in Vermont and they did
this value card exercise and itwas life changing for me.
Years later, I decided that Iwanted to share that with the
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world, ultimately created myvalue cards, and now I use them
with clients and it works.
It truly walking through thatwork.
I think a lot of people believethey know what their values are.
And I always say, do the work.
Because oftentimes the valuesthat you think you have are
actually other people's valuesthat they think you should have
not what you believe.
(15:36):
So it's doing the work.
The gratitude piece is somethingcompletely different, right?
The gratitude piece is reallyaround.
You hear the term woo, right?
You hear the term or will andthe reality is once upon a time.
I thought that about gratitudeor about, any of the energy
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work.
It was too fluffy.
There's no place for that inbusiness.
But the reality is there's ahuge place for that in business
in the way that I look atbusiness and in the way that I
do.
It's because for gratitude forme, I have a, I have 9 steps of
gratitude that I believewholeheartedly in and it's about
being in this space in the now.
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Being able to make decisionsbased on the work that you have
done, understanding that whenyou're looking ahead, or when
you're looking at what hastranspired, it doesn't allow you
to really experience what ishappening right now in your
world, in your business, andother people's lives.
And when you can be grounded inthe now, it allows you to
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connect with other people.
It allows you to connect withyour business and the work that
you're doing.
And then moving forward.
From that place and movingforward.
There is a place for will in theprofessional world.
It exists and that took a longtime to be able to say that.
And it still feels that wholecorporate mind and voice in my
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head is like, Oh, you shouldn'tbe talking about that, but you
should, and we all should, andwe all should be having those
conversations because when youare paying attention to
sometimes what you call your gutinstinct, or you hear that
download or that voice thatcomes to you, pay attention, the
answers are within you.
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They truly are.
Tracie Root (17:27):
Yeah.
So my thought around that is, todifferent people have different
definitions of what would beconsidered something that's woo,
right?
But what you're talking about isbeing present, being mindful,
being aware, self aware, likeall of these things that are all
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absolutely the normal emotionalintelligence stuff that's
studied out there in science andstuff.
So it's not woo.
Like people would dismiss it ifthey're sciencey, this is
psychology and it's, becausefollowing your gut doesn't make
you crazy.
It makes you, it means thatyou're paying attention.
Lisa Condon (18:10):
It does.
And there was a white paper thatHarvard put out, I think it was
2017 about gratitude and there'sa lot of white papers, but this
one resonated with me because ittalked about when you are in the
active Active throws or ofgratitude, right?
If you're practicing gratitude,your synapses in your brain
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light up different colors.
And so I'm like, there's a discoball going on in your head.
But what happens is it starts totransform you.
It transforms your thoughts.
It transforms the words that youuse.
You actually innovatedifferently when you are
actively practicing gratitude.
And when you consistently arepracticing gratitude and
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consistently So sitting in thatspace, imagine, just how things
will change for you andcontinuously change sometimes
slower and sometimes quick, butit really is about in my mind,
decide how fast it goes.
It just no, definitely not.
But it really is about combiningauthenticity and emotional
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intelligence and then bringingthat into the workplace and into
the professional world.
That's truly what it is.
Tracie Root (19:18):
I love it.
And, when we study personal andprofessional development, those
are the things we're readingabout, right?
Those are the things that all ofthese authors who we respect,
who we're, following the casestudies that they bring in the
stories that they tell thestories that we have in the case
study you just talked about,it's all about being self aware,
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being aware of your world aroundyou.
And being aware of somethingfeels off don't ignore it.
It's there's a reason we'refeeling that way and it's you're
not making it up and it's notsomething out of left field.
It's actually your biology inyour brain.
It's.
It's how we were created.
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It's all of the things tiedtogether.
Lisa Condon (20:04):
Absolutely.
And you know what, Tracie?
At the end,
Tracie Root (20:07):
I'm so excited to even talk about it.
That's so beautiful.
Lisa Condon (20:09):
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
And it's, I think people, whenthey think about woo, they think
about it's the personal growthside.
It's just, it's about personalgrowth.
It's actually a professionaladvantage.
So when you bring that space tothe workplace and you're able to
be a leader, an influencer, acontributor, a thought partner
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in and bring that to the table,then you're bringing that out in
somebody else.
And that just fuels somethingbrand new and beautiful that
you're bringing into the world.
Tracie Root (20:42):
And like you were saying about your, that first
client, that woman when the,when the shell can come off and
we're showing up for each otherand caring about the people
across the table from us,whether that's at a restaurant
or in the boardroom whatevercorporate trope you want to use,
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but imagine that kind of idea ifpeople actually cared about each
other and what could havehappened, can happen in that
kind of growth environment whereif you actually are paying
attention to what people need,how much more you can get done.
Lisa Condon (21:23):
Totally.
And when people aretransitioning, it's funny.
One of my male clients, Iremember he actually had come to
my house and we were.
We were doing some work and itwas he had come to me because he
was retiring out of his Longterm, very high level, high
stress job, and he decided toretire very early at 50, and
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then he wanted to step intobeing a coach, being an
executive coach, and he workedwith, he decided to hire me to
help him through thattransition.
This was somebody who was aclose friend of mine as well.
And after we got him through thetransition, and he flew from the
nest and did his thing.
Our very last call, he said tome, he goes, I just want to give
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you some feedback.
He said, you are.
You are a great business coach.
He's and said all thesewonderful kudos.
And then he said, but Lisa, youare an exceptional life coach.
He's I don't know what you didand how you did it, but you
helped me find me.
And that compliment and thatfeedback changed me.
(22:31):
That was a tipping point for me,right?
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
And, watching him today and thestuff he's doing, he was already
incredible.
He didn't, it's almost like hedidn't need me, but.
He did because he's now talkingand speaking and doing things
that are out, were outside ofhis comfort zone and his zone of
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genius when he's stepping intohis true self and what he really
wanted to be doing and hispurposeful work.
It's, you can hear me.
I'm getting a little choked upbecause it's pretty amazing.
Yeah.
Tracie Root (23:02):
He did need you because he needed a different,
he needed someone outside of hisown brain.
Yeah.
Not so much give permission, butthere's a little bit of that for
all of us.
But also to just recognize thetransition that was to come and
show him.
Look, it's right there.
Go ahead.
Exactly.
(23:23):
I love it.
So good.
So good.
I actually got one of my firstawarenesses of your, the value
card thing that you, the, doingthe values work that you do
because I went to a meeting,they use your cards as like
icebreaker questions.
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This was at a meeting up inPetaluma and.
So tell us, you said that, youwent through a program, they
were doing something similar,you created your own.
So tell us how you use thatexercise and a little bit about
from a value standpoint, you'relike, get to one or two, like a
really people say, Oh, what'syour top five or whatever, but
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you go a lot narrower.
So talk about that a little bit.
Lisa Condon (24:06):
Sure.
And I'll first start off withwhy I created mine versus using
somebody else's.
Because when I first starteddoing the values work and
leading those workshops, Iactually used somebody else's
values cards because there'splenty out there.
There are plenty of, there'ssome online stuff, there's
cards, there's so many ways todo it.
But what I found was thereweren't cards that, they either
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had a word or they haddefinitions that I didn't
resonate with.
So I needed to do it in havingthe words and the definitions.
And I also have a deck that'spersonal and then I have one for
business and it's not you as abusiness person.
It's actually giving yourbusiness its own personality.
So 2 things.
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And what I do and why I go asnarrow as I go.
And I do make people go to thetop two, that's so sorry,
spoiler alert, for anybody thathasn't done that with me,
because the way that I do it, Ilike to have fun with it.
People get mad at me, but Idon't care.
And but think about it.
If you are trying to makesignificant change in your life
or your business, and you aregiven five things that you have
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to all of a sudden implement.
How's that going to go for you?
Not going to go very well,right?
Too many choices.
Too many things to change, getsoverwhelming.
You're not going to do any ofit.
Or, if you try to do it, you'renot going to do it all well.
Starting with the top one, orthe top two, it's a lot easier
(25:35):
to integrate it, sustain it,feel the change, understand the
change, and then figure out howyou're going to continue going
down that path.
Because the other piece that Ido So what I have people really
take stock of what a day in thelife of looks like, and we
actually come out with a metric.
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So we, I have, and it's a wholething, but essentially at the
end of the day, we figure outwhere you're spending your time
and how much of that time is inalignment with your top two
values.
And I will tell you that mostpeople, and when I say most
people I've worked with, likeover 90 percent of them.
I'm sorry around 90 percent ofthem are 5 percent or less 5
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percent or less of their time isspent in alignment with their
value system.
So if you have that number, thatbottom or that starting point,
then you can then look at, okay,how do I get it to 7%?
How do I get it to 15%?
What's that going to feel like?
What's that going to change?
And it's amazing because thenwhen you do it again in the
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course of time.
That percentage when it goes up.
How are you showing updifferently for your family, for
your friends, for thecommunities you're a part of,
for your business?
What does that look like?
Are you attracting differenttypes of clients?
And, it's that type of thingthat starts to happen, but
that's also why the way that Ido the values work is I know
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we're going to know what yourtop 5 are.
We're going to know what yourtop 10 are, but we're going to
start with 2.
We're gonna start with two, andthen when we get that to a
really good point, we can startintroducing another one.
And another one.
But it takes time to even getthe first two integrated.
Tracie Root (27:19):
Is it hard to get someone from 10 to five to two?
Lisa Condon (27:23):
The way that I do it the way that I do the entire
exercise, it's.
This is why the workshops that Ido are hours long, like they're
a half day session.
If I do it one on one, it's twoand a half hours, but there's a
reason why all of that timeexists, because you want to give
people the time to haveconversation, to ask questions,
to figure out what I call thedependencies upon, and I'll give
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you an example.
I, there's 1 person inparticular that I can think of
where their number 1 value ishealth.
And they said to me, the reasonthat it's health is because if
I'm not healthy, I cannot beanything to my family.
I cannot show up authentically,I can't adventure the way that I
want to if I'm not healthy.
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So they saw that as theirdependency.
But I think we're all sodifferent and wired so
differently that to get to thecore of who we are it's how we
see things and how we experiencelife and want to experience
life.
And and values are guidingprinciples.
I was
Tracie Root (28:26):
going to say like someone else who has similar
reasons for theirs might notchoose the word health.
But would choose, freedom or,whatever the word is that
resonates for them.
And they're like, if I'm notfree to make these decisions,
then I can't do this.
And the things that they can'tdo might be the same.
Lisa Condon (28:43):
Yeah.
Tracie Root (28:44):
So that's really interesting to, cause that's
your whole what are you bringingto the table from your childhood
and your upbringing and yourexperiences and all that?
Lisa Condon (28:52):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And that's all part of gratitudework too, right?
One of the things when I'mtalking about the nine steps of
gratitude, I work through anindividual's foundational garden
and we build that out becauseevery experience you've had,
every person that has been inyour life has planted a seed and
how are you watering that?
And how are you letting it grow?
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And maybe it shouldn't begrowing.
Maybe it's a weed, so we talkabout those things as well.
And I see them really asintertwined.
They just, they show updifferently in work life and and
your, professional or personalworld.
Yeah, for sure.
Tracie Root (29:29):
Awesome.
You know that I think that allof this work is so important and
you're so smart and articulateto be able to share it with
people where people might belike, oh, yeah, I'd like to work
on that, but they don't know.
Like where to start or evensometimes I don't even know why
(29:49):
it sounds like a good idea.
They just have this feeling,right?
And so I know that you work oneon one with people.
You're also doing your workshopsand stuff.
We'll put things in the shownotes, but tell us a little bit
about how you're working withclients.
We only have a couple minutesleft, but how you're working
with clients and how people canfind out more about having a
chance to work with you.
Lisa Condon (30:11):
No, I appreciate that.
The best thing to do is to setup a discovery call with me
because we're going to have aconversation about where you are
and.
And just where you want to beand where do you want to go and
have, and just have thatconversation.
And the way to do that is to goto my website, which is Lisa
Condon dot com, which I know youput in the information, but it
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starts with a conversation.
It truly does.
And because again, to raise yourhand and say, you know what I
want to feel differently or Iwant to feel more joy.
Sometimes it can feel veryselfish and the reality is it's
not because if you aren't full,you can't pour into other
people.
(30:53):
Yeah.
So it's really about your selflove and self care.
Tracie Root (30:57):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
I love the phrase.
Like you can't pour from anempty cup while you pour
whatever's in the cup.
That's the thing and if your cupis full of peace and gratitude
and self love and holding tothose core values that you have
figured out are the mostimportant things to you, then
that's what you give to everyoneelse.
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And it's the ripple effect.
Yeah, it really is.
Fantastic.
Lisa, I'm so grateful for ourtime to always every
conversation we have, but thishas been fantastic and I can't
wait to get this episode out tothe world.
And that was a great wrap, soI'm going to say, thank you so
much and I can't wait for us toget to be together again, but
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thank you for today.
Lisa Condon (31:40):
Thank you, Tracie.
I always appreciate time withyou.
Are you ready to take bold action and live a life
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of brilliance?
Welcome to the bold andbrilliant podcast where women
leaders share inspiring storiesabout daring decisions that
shape their businesses, theirlives, and their careers.
In this episode, I'm with thefabulous and amazing Lisa
Condon.
Lisa is a lover of life,adventurer of spirit, and
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cultivator of collaboration.
As a business coach and lifestrategist, she thrives on
helping businesses find theirheart, and people discover their
passion through value andgratitude based conversations.
Lisa is an award winninginternational speaker and
author.
(00:47):
She is professionally trained asa Six Sigma black belt and scrum
master and integrates tried andtrue processes into all the work
she does.
Diving into life headfirst, youcan find Lisa with her husband,
Nate, traveling the world orsitting by a fire, watching the
stars.
(01:08):
As we talk, you'll hear Lisashare one bold decision that has
created her path on what wasnext.
Her story of resilience, risktaking and transformation will
inspire, encourage and supportyour personal and professional
growth.
Welcome Lisa to the Bold andBrilliant Podcast.
All right, Lisa, welcome to theBold and Brilliant podcast.
(01:32):
I'm so glad you're here.
Lisa Condon (01:34):
Tracie, I'm so glad to be here with you.
What a way to start my weekend.
I'm so excited.
Tracie Root (01:39):
I know.
It's Friday today and it is,it's like when you get to do
something like this on a Friday,I feel like it's the pre
celebration before.
The life gets to really begin,which is not to say our work is
not a fun also, but there'ssomething about that break of
having a really greatconversation with a friend with
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a colleague that sets you up forwhat's to come.
And of course, we're going totalk about bold decisions and
those kinds of things as we goforward, which also sets us up
for what's to come.
So that's like a fun combinationthere.
But before we do that, I wantpeople who haven't met you yet
to get to know a little bitabout you.
(02:23):
So tell us a little bit aboutyour journey to doing what
you're doing.
I've already talked about, thatyou are a super adventurous
spirit and you're working andyou have all these trainings and
like super.
Like base of your skill set thatyou bring to your clients and
everything, but tell us aboutyou and how you got here.
Lisa Condon (02:44):
I would love to, and it's so funny when I hear
that, I've got to tell peoplethat haven't met me yet.
I'm like, why haven't I meteverybody yet?
I want to meet everybody in theworld.
So so my journey, I would sayinteresting for me, but I also
think there's a lot of.
Things that people will resonatewith because they've gone
through it themselves, right?
So I was in the corporate worldin the newspaper industry.
(03:06):
1 day, because things weren'taligned.
It didn't feel right anymore.
And I've been climbing thecorporate ladder at that point.
I decided to leave and that wasafter a course of time where
people kept asking me, do youconsult?
No, do you freelance?
No.
And then one day, the answerwas, yes, I do.
And that was after a pretty badday.
And so that just started thatnext trajectory of now, what do
(03:30):
I do now?
I said, yes, what does that looklike?
And so that was a lot of fun.
But, as I progressed, and as Ireally expanded into the work
that I really want to do, and Ithink like many entrepreneurs,
We do things at the beginningthat we can do it.
Maybe we shouldn't be doing it.
Maybe we don't love it, but itwas the just because I can
(03:52):
doesn't mean I should have.
Now the work that I do, and thisis, been going on for a really
long time, right?
The 17 years ish, where I do alot of work in helping my
clients, both in life andbusiness around their core value
systems and helping to identifythat.
I do a lot of work in thegratitude space as well, but we
(04:13):
set that up as the foundationfrom which to build your
strategic plan in both businessand life.
And walking through.
That blueprint for them of howdo we get from where you are now
to the purpose filled work thatyou want to be doing while
you're here on this earth andwhat are the steps to get there
and then making them reallyincremental.
(04:35):
So they can be truly impactful.
And that just lights me up everyday.
Tracie Root (04:42):
Love what I do.
That's amazing.
I have a question.
So if you're working with peopleabout what's their next step?
What, how are they going to moveforward?
But then you start talking withthem about what lights them up.
Are you finding that people?
Didn't like, do they expectthat?
Do they think that they justwere looking for a checklist?
(05:05):
I feel if I think back to mycorporate days to who wouldn't
recognize me, as I am today in alot of ways, but if I think back
there and like the executives inthose companies, and if you
started talking to them about.
What's your passion and all ofthat?
I think they're socompartmentalized.
So what was that?
To start to offer them thosethought processes around what
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their expectation is like, moreregimented.
Lisa Condon (05:34):
Yeah, that's a great question because number 1,
it's scary.
The 1st time you do it and startopening up that conversation.
Especially when you have thatcorporate background, that
people are going to have certainthoughts and certain feelings
about those types of questionsyet, being somebody that has
really been very intuitive myentire life and really tapped
(05:57):
into.
Other things, just taking intoaccount what's going on and
energies and that type of stuffthat it's really impactful.
So I would use that work andjust not tell people I was doing
it.
Once I started opening up thoseconversations, and usually it
wasn't the 1st conversation,usually it was the 2nd or 3rd,
(06:17):
it was amazing.
How people they didn't expectit, even though some of them
came to me after hearing mespeak, right?
You would think that they wouldexpect it and anticipate it, but
they didn't.
And I think those tend to bethose tipping points for a
different type of conversationthat gets very real and very
deep.
(06:38):
And that's where the magicstarts to happen.
So now it is an absolute mustpart of the work that I do.
And even though again, steppinginto that 1st conversation,
there's still a little fearbecause you never know what the
reaction will be and yet.
And I've seen them all.
(06:58):
Trust me.
I've seen every reaction to it.
But then we get real.
It's stripping off the layersand getting to the true heart of
the individual.
And until we can get to thatspace, you're not going to build
anything in life or businessfrom a truly.
Vulnerable authentic space andyeah, and so we spent years,
(07:20):
Tracie, like building up theselayers.
I helped strip them off.
Tracie Root (07:24):
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm imagining, you're workingwith this.
I imagine it being a guy, right?
You're working with this guybecause when I think corporate
executive who isn't in touch.
With those kinds of thoughts, Ithink about this guy in a suit,
right?
It's just the image of my mind.
And so you introduce the ideaswithout really saying you're
(07:47):
going to introduce the ideas,but then one day you decide,
look, I'm going to lead withthis as part of how I'm going to
help this new person who doesn'teven know me yet.
So that is, as we say, a superbold decision, because you don't
know how that's going to bereceived by these, this client
(08:09):
type that you've been workingwith already.
So tell us about like the firsttime you decided consciously to
make that shift with a newclient.
Lisa Condon (08:20):
Sure.
And it's interesting that youconjure up a man in a suit.
Because the first time I did itwas actually with a woman who
was very corporatized and I, awoman in a suit and I saw so
much of myself in her becausewhen I was in the corporate
space, there wasn't space forfeelings or there wasn't space
(08:41):
for any of that.
type of conversation.
It was about climbing the ladderand balancing the budget and
doing all the things andchecking all the boxes.
And so this woman, while we werehaving a conversation I didn't
even start out that way.
We were having our conversation,we were doing the same old, or
so it felt to me, and we weren'tgetting anywhere.
(09:01):
The baby steps were happening.
But there was a blockage and Ifinally just said, listen, we
need to have a different type ofconversation because there's
something that's blocking youright now.
And I think we just need to talkabout it.
And so it actually came from aplace of knowing that there was
more and I needed to pull itout.
(09:22):
And all of these othertechniques that I had been
trained on and learned about andtook classes on, none of it was
working.
And so I had to step into thisother space of.
Other work that I have done,very spiritual work, very, a lot
of energy work, that type ofthing.
And I just, I had to just lay iton the table.
And I finally was like, so areyou open to that?
(09:45):
So after I did this like delugeof we've got to do this and then
it was, oh, wait, are you opento it?
And the look on her face waspriceless.
She was a deer in headlights.
And with some of the questionsthat I asked her about, what is
your purpose?
What are you feeling when you dothis?
She just looked at me deer inheadlights and then very
(10:06):
quietly, and this was a verybold woman said, nobody's ever
asked me that.
And did she have an answer?
Not really, not in that moment,but as we started diving into it
and having those conversations,she started really digging into
who she was at the core and whatstill resonates with me, Tracie,
(10:29):
too, is you could physicallysee.
The hardness, the shell that shehad built around herself from
years and years of being in thespace that she was in, it was
melting like she just becamesofter.
Her face became softer.
Her words became kinder toherself and how she was
(10:52):
describing the things that shewanted to do.
It was beautiful.
It was a really beautifulmoment.
And I, I still talk to her tothis day.
And her life is completelydifferent, like 180 completely.
What is she doing now?
I just, I have to know.
Yeah.
So funny enough, she steppedinto her artistic space.
She had this whole creative sideto her.
(11:12):
So she's now, she's an artistjust that kind of that world for
herself.
Now she came from a place ofaffluency.
So she left the corporate world.
She had done a lot of savingand.
She was able to say, I don'twant that anymore.
And this is what I want formyself.
So that's what she does.
And she's a, I love that.
(11:33):
My art geek self is happy.
Oh, that's true.
I didn't even think about that.
Absolutely.
Oh, that's so great.
Yeah.
So yeah, she's it's good.
It's really good, but.
But I think that's where when wetalk about, especially with all
we have gone through, and youand I were talking a little bit
about this, it's been five yearssince our world's changed.
And as we've come out of it, somany people had opportunity to
(11:57):
go back to what they were doingand how they were doing it or
create and continue the changethat they started.
And I'm watching.
Unfortunately, a lot of people.
Moving, going back to what theyknew and the habits of what they
knew.
And those are the conversationsI love to have.
Because why let's talk about whyyou chose to do that and not
(12:19):
live in this space.
That was bringing you joy for solong.
And.
Yeah, and just dive into thosediscoveries, right?
And have those conversations.
Tracie Root (12:29):
Yeah, it's so interesting.
I think that, 1 year, the nextyear, you're holding on, you're
trying to do the things andthen, maybe it's not going as
great as you imagined it wouldit's those unmet expectations
and and then it's not what Ithought it was going to be.
It's too hard.
And somehow going back to theway things were, which you can't
(12:54):
really do seems easier to somepeople and it's, I think it's
because just tell me what to doas opposed to creating it
yourself.
The whole, just tell me what todo.
I can't make another decisiontoday.
Give me a job
Lisa Condon (13:11):
and I think I, yes, to everything you said, and I
also think to really step outinto the world as your true,
vulnerable, authentic self isvery scary because when there's
that fear of rejection or peoplenot understanding you, or people
(13:32):
don't like it when you changeand they want you to stay the
same forever.
So it's all of those things thatcome with it.
And yet at the same time, whenyou step into the world in your
vulnerable, authentic way andspace, that's where you're going
to make great change.
And that's where you're going tolive into your purpose.
And people are going to see thatand experience that.
(13:53):
And you're bringing your.
Slice of magic to the world thatyou're living in, and that's not
easy, and it is scary in everysense of the word, but when
you're able to do it and live itand breathe it day in and day
out, it's so beautiful, and itactually is easier because then
you've just shed off all theother stuff that you just don't
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need.
Tracie Root (14:14):
The thought that I had after this tale is.
I know that you mentioned in thebeginning gratitude values.
So talk about, you ask theseclients, these questions you've
moved into really helping peoplecrack through the shell that
they had.
I love that visual.
It feels so absolutely spot on.
(14:35):
So tell us about the gratitudeand the value stuff and how that
has morphed into where you arewith it today, because it's.
It's how you show up every dayand tell it.
So tell us how you use that whenyou're working with people and
how that came to be.
Lisa Condon (14:54):
Yeah.
And it came to be in 2 differentways.
So the value piece is a littlemore it's an easier path to talk
about, right?
Because, yeah, it's moretangible, right?
Because I was in a leadershipprogram in Vermont and they did
this value card exercise and itwas life changing for me.
Years later, I decided that Iwanted to share that with the
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world, ultimately created myvalue cards, and now I use them
with clients and it works.
It truly walking through thatwork.
I think a lot of people believethey know what their values are.
And I always say, do the work.
Because oftentimes the valuesthat you think you have are
actually other people's valuesthat they think you should have
not what you believe.
(15:36):
So it's doing the work.
The gratitude piece is somethingcompletely different, right?
The gratitude piece is reallyaround.
You hear the term woo, right?
You hear the term or will andthe reality is once upon a time.
I thought that about gratitudeor about, any of the energy
(15:58):
work.
It was too fluffy.
There's no place for that inbusiness.
But the reality is there's ahuge place for that in business
in the way that I look atbusiness and in the way that I
do.
It's because for gratitude forme, I have a, I have 9 steps of
gratitude that I believewholeheartedly in and it's about
being in this space in the now.
(16:20):
Being able to make decisionsbased on the work that you have
done, understanding that whenyou're looking ahead, or when
you're looking at what hastranspired, it doesn't allow you
to really experience what ishappening right now in your
world, in your business, andother people's lives.
And when you can be grounded inthe now, it allows you to
(16:43):
connect with other people.
It allows you to connect withyour business and the work that
you're doing.
And then moving forward.
From that place and movingforward.
There is a place for will in theprofessional world.
It exists and that took a longtime to be able to say that.
And it still feels that wholecorporate mind and voice in my
(17:05):
head is like, Oh, you shouldn'tbe talking about that, but you
should, and we all should, andwe all should be having those
conversations because when youare paying attention to
sometimes what you call your gutinstinct, or you hear that
download or that voice thatcomes to you, pay attention, the
answers are within you.
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They truly are.
Tracie Root (17:27):
Yeah.
So my thought around that is, todifferent people have different
definitions of what would beconsidered something that's woo,
right?
But what you're talking about isbeing present, being mindful,
being aware, self aware, likeall of these things that are all
(17:47):
absolutely the normal emotionalintelligence stuff that's
studied out there in science andstuff.
So it's not woo.
Like people would dismiss it ifthey're sciencey, this is
psychology and it's, becausefollowing your gut doesn't make
you crazy.
It makes you, it means thatyou're paying attention.
Lisa Condon (18:10):
It does.
And there was a white paper thatHarvard put out, I think it was
2017 about gratitude and there'sa lot of white papers, but this
one resonated with me because ittalked about when you are in the
active Active throws or ofgratitude, right?
If you're practicing gratitude,your synapses in your brain
(18:30):
light up different colors.
And so I'm like, there's a discoball going on in your head.
But what happens is it starts totransform you.
It transforms your thoughts.
It transforms the words that youuse.
You actually innovatedifferently when you are
actively practicing gratitude.
And when you consistently arepracticing gratitude and
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consistently So sitting in thatspace, imagine, just how things
will change for you andcontinuously change sometimes
slower and sometimes quick, butit really is about in my mind,
decide how fast it goes.
It just no, definitely not.
But it really is about combiningauthenticity and emotional
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intelligence and then bringingthat into the workplace and into
the professional world.
That's truly what it is.
Tracie Root (19:18):
I love it.
And, when we study personal andprofessional development, those
are the things we're readingabout, right?
Those are the things that all ofthese authors who we respect,
who we're, following the casestudies that they bring in the
stories that they tell thestories that we have in the case
study you just talked about,it's all about being self aware,
(19:40):
being aware of your world aroundyou.
And being aware of somethingfeels off don't ignore it.
It's there's a reason we'refeeling that way and it's you're
not making it up and it's notsomething out of left field.
It's actually your biology inyour brain.
It's.
It's how we were created.
(20:00):
It's all of the things tiedtogether.
Lisa Condon (20:04):
Absolutely.
And you know what, Tracie?
At the end,
Tracie Root (20:07):
I'm so excited to even talk about it.
That's so beautiful.
Lisa Condon (20:09):
Yeah, no, I agree with you.
And it's, I think people, whenthey think about woo, they think
about it's the personal growthside.
It's just, it's about personalgrowth.
It's actually a professionaladvantage.
So when you bring that space tothe workplace and you're able to
be a leader, an influencer, acontributor, a thought partner
(20:31):
in and bring that to the table,then you're bringing that out in
somebody else.
And that just fuels somethingbrand new and beautiful that
you're bringing into the world.
Tracie Root (20:42):
And like you were saying about your, that first
client, that woman when the,when the shell can come off and
we're showing up for each otherand caring about the people
across the table from us,whether that's at a restaurant
or in the boardroom whatevercorporate trope you want to use,
(21:04):
but imagine that kind of idea ifpeople actually cared about each
other and what could havehappened, can happen in that
kind of growth environment whereif you actually are paying
attention to what people need,how much more you can get done.
Lisa Condon (21:23):
Totally.
And when people aretransitioning, it's funny.
One of my male clients, Iremember he actually had come to
my house and we were.
We were doing some work and itwas he had come to me because he
was retiring out of his Longterm, very high level, high
stress job, and he decided toretire very early at 50, and
(21:46):
then he wanted to step intobeing a coach, being an
executive coach, and he workedwith, he decided to hire me to
help him through thattransition.
This was somebody who was aclose friend of mine as well.
And after we got him through thetransition, and he flew from the
nest and did his thing.
Our very last call, he said tome, he goes, I just want to give
(22:07):
you some feedback.
He said, you are.
You are a great business coach.
He's and said all thesewonderful kudos.
And then he said, but Lisa, youare an exceptional life coach.
He's I don't know what you didand how you did it, but you
helped me find me.
And that compliment and thatfeedback changed me.
(22:31):
That was a tipping point for me,right?
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
And, watching him today and thestuff he's doing, he was already
incredible.
He didn't, it's almost like hedidn't need me, but.
He did because he's now talkingand speaking and doing things
that are out, were outside ofhis comfort zone and his zone of
(22:52):
genius when he's stepping intohis true self and what he really
wanted to be doing and hispurposeful work.
It's, you can hear me.
I'm getting a little choked upbecause it's pretty amazing.
Yeah.
Tracie Root (23:02):
He did need you because he needed a different,
he needed someone outside of hisown brain.
Yeah.
Not so much give permission, butthere's a little bit of that for
all of us.
But also to just recognize thetransition that was to come and
show him.
Look, it's right there.
Go ahead.
Exactly.
(23:23):
I love it.
So good.
So good.
I actually got one of my firstawarenesses of your, the value
card thing that you, the, doingthe values work that you do
because I went to a meeting,they use your cards as like
icebreaker questions.
(23:43):
This was at a meeting up inPetaluma and.
So tell us, you said that, youwent through a program, they
were doing something similar,you created your own.
So tell us how you use thatexercise and a little bit about
from a value standpoint, you'relike, get to one or two, like a
really people say, Oh, what'syour top five or whatever, but
(24:03):
you go a lot narrower.
So talk about that a little bit.
Lisa Condon (24:06):
Sure.
And I'll first start off withwhy I created mine versus using
somebody else's.
Because when I first starteddoing the values work and
leading those workshops, Iactually used somebody else's
values cards because there'splenty out there.
There are plenty of, there'ssome online stuff, there's
cards, there's so many ways todo it.
But what I found was thereweren't cards that, they either
(24:30):
had a word or they haddefinitions that I didn't
resonate with.
So I needed to do it in havingthe words and the definitions.
And I also have a deck that'spersonal and then I have one for
business and it's not you as abusiness person.
It's actually giving yourbusiness its own personality.
So 2 things.
(24:50):
And what I do and why I go asnarrow as I go.
And I do make people go to thetop two, that's so sorry,
spoiler alert, for anybody thathasn't done that with me,
because the way that I do it, Ilike to have fun with it.
People get mad at me, but Idon't care.
And but think about it.
If you are trying to makesignificant change in your life
or your business, and you aregiven five things that you have
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to all of a sudden implement.
How's that going to go for you?
Not going to go very well,right?
Too many choices.
Too many things to change, getsoverwhelming.
You're not going to do any ofit.
Or, if you try to do it, you'renot going to do it all well.
Starting with the top one, orthe top two, it's a lot easier
(25:35):
to integrate it, sustain it,feel the change, understand the
change, and then figure out howyou're going to continue going
down that path.
Because the other piece that Ido So what I have people really
take stock of what a day in thelife of looks like, and we
actually come out with a metric.
(25:56):
So we, I have, and it's a wholething, but essentially at the
end of the day, we figure outwhere you're spending your time
and how much of that time is inalignment with your top two
values.
And I will tell you that mostpeople, and when I say most
people I've worked with, likeover 90 percent of them.
I'm sorry around 90 percent ofthem are 5 percent or less 5
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percent or less of their time isspent in alignment with their
value system.
So if you have that number, thatbottom or that starting point,
then you can then look at, okay,how do I get it to 7%?
How do I get it to 15%?
What's that going to feel like?
What's that going to change?
And it's amazing because thenwhen you do it again in the
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course of time.
That percentage when it goes up.
How are you showing updifferently for your family, for
your friends, for thecommunities you're a part of,
for your business?
What does that look like?
Are you attracting differenttypes of clients?
And, it's that type of thingthat starts to happen, but
that's also why the way that Ido the values work is I know
(27:04):
we're going to know what yourtop 5 are.
We're going to know what yourtop 10 are, but we're going to
start with 2.
We're gonna start with two, andthen when we get that to a
really good point, we can startintroducing another one.
And another one.
But it takes time to even getthe first two integrated.
Tracie Root (27:19):
Is it hard to get someone from 10 to five to two?
Lisa Condon (27:23):
The way that I do it the way that I do the entire
exercise, it's.
This is why the workshops that Ido are hours long, like they're
a half day session.
If I do it one on one, it's twoand a half hours, but there's a
reason why all of that timeexists, because you want to give
people the time to haveconversation, to ask questions,
to figure out what I call thedependencies upon, and I'll give
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you an example.
I, there's 1 person inparticular that I can think of
where their number 1 value ishealth.
And they said to me, the reasonthat it's health is because if
I'm not healthy, I cannot beanything to my family.
I cannot show up authentically,I can't adventure the way that I
want to if I'm not healthy.
(28:08):
So they saw that as theirdependency.
But I think we're all sodifferent and wired so
differently that to get to thecore of who we are it's how we
see things and how we experiencelife and want to experience
life.
And and values are guidingprinciples.
I was
Tracie Root (28:26):
going to say like someone else who has similar
reasons for theirs might notchoose the word health.
But would choose, freedom or,whatever the word is that
resonates for them.
And they're like, if I'm notfree to make these decisions,
then I can't do this.
And the things that they can'tdo might be the same.
Lisa Condon (28:43):
Yeah.
Tracie Root (28:44):
So that's really interesting to, cause that's
your whole what are you bringingto the table from your childhood
and your upbringing and yourexperiences and all that?
Lisa Condon (28:52):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And that's all part of gratitudework too, right?
One of the things when I'mtalking about the nine steps of
gratitude, I work through anindividual's foundational garden
and we build that out becauseevery experience you've had,
every person that has been inyour life has planted a seed and
how are you watering that?
And how are you letting it grow?
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And maybe it shouldn't begrowing.
Maybe it's a weed, so we talkabout those things as well.
And I see them really asintertwined.
They just, they show updifferently in work life and and
your, professional or personalworld.
Yeah, for sure.
Tracie Root (29:29):
Awesome.
You know that I think that allof this work is so important and
you're so smart and articulateto be able to share it with
people where people might belike, oh, yeah, I'd like to work
on that, but they don't know.
Like where to start or evensometimes I don't even know why
(29:49):
it sounds like a good idea.
They just have this feeling,right?
And so I know that you work oneon one with people.
You're also doing your workshopsand stuff.
We'll put things in the shownotes, but tell us a little bit
about how you're working withclients.
We only have a couple minutesleft, but how you're working
with clients and how people canfind out more about having a
chance to work with you.
Lisa Condon (30:11):
No, I appreciate that.
The best thing to do is to setup a discovery call with me
because we're going to have aconversation about where you are
and.
And just where you want to beand where do you want to go and
have, and just have thatconversation.
And the way to do that is to goto my website, which is Lisa
Condon dot com, which I know youput in the information, but it
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starts with a conversation.
It truly does.
And because again, to raise yourhand and say, you know what I
want to feel differently or Iwant to feel more joy.
Sometimes it can feel veryselfish and the reality is it's
not because if you aren't full,you can't pour into other
people.
(30:53):
Yeah.
So it's really about your selflove and self care.
Tracie Root (30:57):
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
I love the phrase.
Like you can't pour from anempty cup while you pour
whatever's in the cup.
That's the thing and if your cupis full of peace and gratitude
and self love and holding tothose core values that you have
figured out are the mostimportant things to you, then
that's what you give to everyoneelse.
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And it's the ripple effect.
Yeah, it really is.
Fantastic.
Lisa, I'm so grateful for ourtime to always every
conversation we have, but thishas been fantastic and I can't
wait to get this episode out tothe world.
And that was a great wrap, soI'm going to say, thank you so
much and I can't wait for us toget to be together again, but
(31:39):
thank you for today.
Lisa Condon (31:40):
Thank you, Tracie.
I always appreciate time withyou.
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