December 21, 2025 • 30 mins
🎧 Episode Summary:
What happens when life asks you to hold everything—a demanding career, caregiving, grief, big transitions—and you finally choose yourself? In this powerful episode, Tracie sits down with Kat Mitchell (Master Transformation Coach, NLP Practitioner, Hypnotherapist, and energy-work guide) to talk about the bold decision that changed her path from corporate tech to deep inner work. Kat shares her origin story, the unexpected “bridge” skills that made her successful in tech, and how her personal journey through loss and caregiving led her into neuroscience, unconscious mindset work, and transformational healing. If you’ve ever felt like you’re carrying too much… this one will meet you right where you are—and help you shift from the inside out.
✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- Why “I’m not doing that” can become a self-fulfilling mindset loop (and how to shift it)
- How Kat accidentally found her way into tech—and why her human skills were the real superpower
- The bold moment when she realized: “I can’t do it all.”
- How grief, caregiving, and life pivots can become the catalyst for a new mission
- What “conscious” vs. “unconscious” coaching really means—and why it matters
- How neuroscience, NLP, hypnotherapy, reiki, and breathwork can support real change
- Why willingness is the secret ingredient to inner work (and why “woo” is more science than ever)
🛠️ Actionable Tips from Kat Mitchell:
- Catch your “I’m not…” statements. They’re often programming your brain more than you realize.
- Notice where you’re trying to do the impossible. If you’re holding too much, it may be time to choose a new boundary.
- Try the work before you judge it. A little willingness can create a huge breakthrough.
- Don’t stop at mindset. If you keep hitting the same wall, you may need unconscious-level support (NLP/hypnotherapy).
- Build a safe space to practice regulation. Meditation, breathwork, and energy work get easier when you’re supported in community.
🎤 Memorable Quote:
“Whether you say you can or you say you can’t, you’re right.”
🔥 Bold Moment of the Episode:
Kat’s bold decision to step away from a 60-hour/week career after years of caregiving, loss, and family crises—choosing to “walk away and figure it out,” even without a perfectly clear roadmap.
📱 Connect with Kat Mitchell:
- Membership: Calm, Clarity & Reset
- Facebook Group: Resilient, Wild & Unstoppable
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Tracie (00:00):
Are you ready for bold moves and powerful inner shifts?
Welcome to the Bold andBrilliant podcast, where women
share the decisions that changedeverything.
Today's guest is Kat Mitchell,master Transformation Coach,
certified NLP, practitioner andhypnotherapist who helps high
achieving women releaseself-doubt, imposter patterns in
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the hidden stories that keepthem playing small.
With a deeply intuitive, yetpractical approach, Kat blends
neuroscience, NLP, hypnotherapyand energy work to create true
inner alignment and authenticconfidence.
In this episode, Kat shares thebold decision that transformed
her path and how shifting fromthe inside out can change
(00:43):
everything.
Welcome, Kat to the Bold andbrilliant podcast.
Kat Mitchell, I am so excitedthat you're here for the
podcast.
Thanks for joining me.
Yay.
I'm so glad I'm here too.
Yeah.
I'm thrilled to find on yourpodcast after I know.
I'm so excited about it because,you know, I'm really doing a
(01:03):
push to get a number of episodesout, and those of you who are in
the Gather community, I askedway back when, but it just never
was the right timing for you andme to get together.
So I'm thrilled that we're ableto still make it happen in
season one.
Yay.
Yay.
All right.
So, you know, one of the thingsthat happens here on the podcast
is I get to have greatconversations with people who
(01:26):
I've known for a long time, butI'm always trying to dig for
new.
Pieces of your story that Imight not know already and that
maybe our listeners, especiallyif they're in our community,
might not know already.
So one thing that I know aboutyou, and we'll talk about that
in a bit is, you know that youworked in tech, in corporate,
(01:48):
and you know, and then ongoing,and we'll get to that in a
minute.
But I'd love to hear about youbefore that happened.
Like what were you like?
Up growing up that made youdecide to go into that kind of a
field.
Like tell us about your the CatMitchell origin story, if you
will.
So,
Kat (02:07):
I'm laughing because the Cat Mitchell origin story says,
I am never sitting behind adesk.
I am never doing tech.
I took a computer class when Ifirst started college and said.
Heck no.
That is not for me.
That is a painful experience.
Tracie (02:27):
To sit there at a desk looking at a screen all day
long.
Kat (02:31):
I,
Tracie (02:31):
I walked outta the
Kat (02:32):
class and said, just take me out of this class.
I need creativity.
I need to do somethingdifferent.
And you know, it's weird becauseback then I didn't know all that
mindset stuff.
And I continuously had thatthought.
I'm not going to sit at a desk.
I'm not gonna sit behind acomputer.
I'm not going to and all that.
(02:54):
I'm not going to, I'm not goingto, I'm not.
Tracie (02:56):
Oh, that's so funny.
That is really interesting.
So, so if you didn't think youwanted to sit behind a desk, or
if that was definitely where youdidn't want to go, where did you
want to go?
Like, what were you hoping toaccomplish other than everything
you told your brain?
Kat (03:11):
So.
I had this, um, I was one ofthose kids where when I was
growing up, I wanted to be inveterinary medicine.
I wanted to help pets.
Tracie (03:24):
Yeah.
Kat (03:24):
And I had those parents that said, well, there's not
gonna be any pets to be a vetwhen you get older.
So that's not probably the paththat you wanna go on.
Tracie (03:34):
That's a really weird, interesting perspective.
Why did they think there weren'tgoing to be any path?
I have no idea.
Kat (03:41):
I, I have no idea.
Nonetheless, I canceled that outof my brain and by the time I
got to college, it's like, well,okay, let me figure out what I
wanna do.
So I was the collegeexperimenter.
Let's go into pre-med.
Let's try this.
Let's try chemistry.
Let's try You're so
Tracie (04:02):
scientific.
Yeah.
That's, that's not surprising atthis time.
But very interesting.
Nonetheless, I took
Kat (04:09):
psychology, I took sociology.
So I was, I was challengingmyself in this creative science
path, in this, um, biology.
Um.
Psychology and sociology of themind, really understanding that.
Um, staying completely away fromtech after my first experience.
(04:31):
So, so coming back to how did Iget in tech?
I was actually, um.
I don't even remember whointroduced me to who, but
somebody introduced me to thescout who says, I need you to
work for me in the insuranceindustry.
And I was working in insuranceunderwriting policies, and I was
(04:53):
working for a company that said,Hey, we wanna write our own
software and we need somebodywho understands insurance well
enough to, you know, build thatcollaboration between insurance
and tech.
Tracie (05:07):
Yeah,
Kat (05:07):
and I'm like, well, I know the product, but I don't know
tech.
That's not my thing, right?
And so that is, I slowly startedhelping the tech team understand
insurance, and I'm like, allright.
Now, because I'm one of thosejunkie learners, I'm like, all
(05:28):
right, now I need to understand.
Tech better because they'retelling me to do this testing
stuff and they're telling me todo development stuff and they're
telling me to do this, and I'mlike, and I have no idea what
that means.
Tracie (05:42):
Yeah.
Kat (05:43):
I don't understand any of it.
It's not, it's not what I do.
And so then I, uh, decided tointerview for companies, and the
only reason why I got into aspecific company is because.
When I went in for theinterview, it wasn't that I had
all the skillset, it was that wesat there and cracked jokes and
(06:07):
we were laughing so hard.
The interviewer and I that hesays, crap, you're just hired.
We'll figure out how to trainyou.
Tracie (06:15):
I love this.
It's so interesting because youknow the strengths that you
brought to all of that, you'resuper analytical, very like.
Clear-minded, greatcommunication, right?
Like those are all the thingsthat they needed for that
insurance to tech conversationsto happen, right?
And and that scientific brainthat you had to be able to see
(06:37):
things and understand deep ideasand everything was what you were
bringing to the table, and youdidn't even know that that was
where it was gonna be.
That makes so much sense.
Kat (06:47):
I love it in a weird, yeah.
And then after I actuallystarted working in it, then I
went back and got my degree init.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I didn't finish college until40 when I went back and then the
same month I was finallygraduating at 40.
HP called me and says, Hey, wewanna bring you on as a
(07:10):
consultant.
I'm like.
Why would HP bring me on as aconsultant?
And so they had heard frompeople that I had worked with.
Yeah.
So it was really weird.
Tracie (07:20):
Yeah, I love that.
Well,'cause you could speak thelanguage, I could speak the
language didn't have 20 years ofexperience.
You could speak the language andit's that, you know, I, my
husband's an engineer and wetalk about, uh, his frustrations
as an engineer in talking withthe customer, facing people.
And it's like they are thebridge.
(07:41):
So you were a big bridge, right?
'cause you could speak thelanguage even if you weren't the
person Right.
In every line of code, you knewexactly what the goals were,
what the client was trying tohave, what the, you know, all of
the the pieces.
You could bring it all together.
Kat (07:56):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is how I ended up in, evenwhen I got into tech.
I would not do the development'cause it was, for me, it was
really weird.
For me, it was like getting insomebody else's dirty laundry.
Yeah.
Like we're not touching that,but breaking stuff and testing.
It was powerful until I startedmy own business and then somehow
(08:17):
breaking stuff.
Tracie (08:18):
Now we really don't want our own things to break.
We'll break other people'sstuff.
It still became a gift of mine.
I'm like, dang it.
Now I'm breaking my own stuff.
Breaking your own things.
No, don't do that.
Okay, so let's talk about that.
So you were in tech, HP hired,you finished your career, 40,
not career, uh, college at 40,and you were with HP and doing,
(08:39):
or not necessarily with them,but doing that work for how
long?
And then you made another big,bold decision, not just going
back to college and finishing at40, but another one, which was.
To say no to the nextopportunity and do something
else.
Yeah.
Kat (08:55):
From hp, I ended up at, um, Cox Automotive, which designed
all the software for, uh,dealerships.
So like when you go in and you.
See if you qualify for a loan topurchase a car.
That all that software was.
Oh, financial software.
Tracie (09:12):
Okay.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Kat (09:13):
So we were writing that and I was integrating that.
My coaching actually startedbecause all my teams were us,
India, other countries.
Mm-hmm.
And so that, you know, thedifferent cultures, the
different speaking, um,communication styles, the
different, um.
(09:34):
Like,
Tracie (09:34):
how do you even man, like the personal, uh, yeah.
Personalities and different
Kat (09:39):
ways that they, you know, were willing to open up about
challenges in software is how Ientered the coaching world.
Tracie (09:49):
Yeah.
Kat (09:50):
Because I had a boss that said, Hey, you need to learn how
to get these people to talk toeach other.
To talk to each other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so that's where all that.
Where coaching started and whereI made that decision, that's
where I was working when I madethe decision that, all right, I
(10:11):
can't do everything.
And that decision was based offof the fact that in 2015 I was
working 60 hours a week and Iwas taking care of my cousin,
uh, with end stage liverdisease, and that required me
going into the hospital.
Before work at lunchtime, afterwork, and then, and you're
Tracie (10:33):
trying to work 60 hours a week and keep that all going
at the same
Kat (10:36):
time of, right.
And I would hold meetings beforeI left my house and I would hold
meetings after I got home fromthe hospital.
And so how long did
Tracie (10:45):
that go on for?
Six months.
Yeah.
That sounds like about the limitbecause it sounds exhausting.
Kat (10:53):
So prior to that, I was a runner, I was fit, and then all
of a sudden I tanked.
Mm-hmm.
And then I started regaining myenergy.
My dad got sick, and then Islowly started tanking again.
And then, you know, my momstarted developing dementia and
then my brother had the strokeand I'm like, I can't do it all.
Here's my resignation.
I'm just gonna leave and figureit out.
Tracie (11:15):
Yeah.
So give us that timeline, right?
That your, your cousin got sick,you were working 60 hours a
week, he got sick.
Then give us like the, theincrement timeline.
So
Kat (11:26):
that was, that was 2015, uh, end of 2015.
She passed in 2016.
Then end of 2016, my dad gotsick and he passed in the
beginning of 2017.
Um, and then
Tracie (11:39):
fast for everyone.
Kat (11:41):
Yeah.
And then I moved my mom to uphere, to Auburn in 2017.
And then, uh, 2019, my brotherhad the stroke.
Mm-hmm.
Which is when I decided I can'tdo it all.
I'm just gonna walk away andfigure it out.
(12:01):
Um, and then just as I wasstarting to figure it out, well,
2020.
Yep.
2020.
I'm like, January, 2020.
It's time.
We gotta start making some moneybecause all we're doing, we're
just, you know, letting themoney go out of the savings, you
know, when it's depleting.
Yeah.
So put that on the calendar,start that business, and then
(12:23):
everything shuts down.
I'm like, all right, guess we'renot starting that business this
year.
Tracie (12:28):
So did you, was this like a coaching business that
was start that you were thinkingin January and, and.
What, so what were you planningto do that the pandemic
prevented you from doing andobviously you had to shift it?
Kat (12:41):
Well, I had always been behind a desk.
I'd always been, you know, in anoffice surrounded by the people
that I worked with.
Mm-hmm.
Because I worked in an office.
Yeah.
So when the world shut down andme starting a coaching business,
I had no idea how to reach outto people virtually.
That was not my jam.
Yeah.
I spoke to India teamsvirtually.
(13:03):
But I'd already built thatrelationship with them.
Yeah.
They already knew who I was formany years of working together.
Tracie (13:10):
Well, and when you're in a corporate environment, like
the team is the team, you don'tgo searching for them.
You're not finding the clients.
Right.
It's a whole different ball wax.
Yeah.
Kat (13:21):
Yeah.
So when the world shut down, I'mlike, right, I guess I'm shut
down too.
It's like, because that was nota language I knew what to, I, I,
I didn't know that language.
Yeah.
Well then 2021 came aroundJanuary, 2021.
Let's try this again.
Let's, uh,
Tracie (13:38):
let's, so did you spend most of 2020 not, not working,
not doing anything like just.
Waiting for the, for it to comeback.
I started
Kat (13:47):
taking classes, so I became certified as a team coach
through the European mentorshipand, um, I forgot EMCC.
Uh, mentorship and council.
Tracie (14:00):
Yeah, council.
Kat (14:01):
So, um, became certified through them as a team coach.
Uh, did some other trainings.
'cause hey, what do you do?
Yeah, you learn more.
Um, and then 2021 came aroundand, um, I decided to try it
again.
It's like, all right, let's tryJanuary, 2021.
And then that's when Bud passedaway.
(14:23):
Hmm.
Which then shifted my worldagain because I was living in
his house, uh, which meant, andBud was your partner, Uhhuh.
Tracie (14:36):
Yeah.
And it was the podcast.
Not everyone knows who that is.
Kat (14:39):
Right.
So That's true.
So Bud and I had been togetherfor 11 years.
Mm-hmm.
And.
Um, he, he passed away suddenly.
It wasn't that I was taking careof him and the summer before
that he had had like threestents put in, so we thought he
was good.
Still ended up having a heartattack.
Tracie (15:00):
Oh.
Kat (15:00):
Um, and so that created a different storm in the fact that
I had to move and here I was.
I hadn't made any income in twoyears.
Tracie (15:12):
Yeah, so like rental, like income proof for rentals
and things like that.
Kat (15:17):
Yeah.
So it's like, all right, let's,let's see what the world is
gonna open up for me now'causewe gotta work some magic.
Tracie (15:27):
Yeah.
So
Kat (15:28):
I ended up actually buying a house through a hard money
loan.
Hmm.
Um, through a friend of minethat was willing to do that.
Uh, worked out perfect.
Did that for a couple years.
Um, still not the easiest thing.
And, uh, yeah, so it's been ajourney of a lot of twists and
turns.
(15:48):
Broke my arm, my right armduring the move.
Um, oh no.
Right.
Because apparently when you say,God, I just need a break.
And then as I turned around andI tripped on the step to the new
house, I broke multiple bones inmy arm.
Um, just needed a
Tracie (16:10):
break.
You're killing me.
Oh my gosh.
So be careful what you ask for.
Wow.
That's wild.
Okay, so.
Amazing.
And so you had all thesecertifications, you started your
coaching business, bud passed,you're still taking care of your
brother, you're taking yourmom's in, in, you know, doing,
(16:33):
having her own kind of towardthe end of life journey as an
older lady.
And then I know your mom passedaway, your brother got better.
We like this.
And you know, and that's a goodthing.
And, and then I would say, youknow, around.
I would say this time last year,but that's too recent.
A year and a half ago.
(16:53):
Like when did you, when was itthat your mom passed away?
So my mom passed away in Augustof 2024.
August.
Okay.
So, yeah, so it's November now.
So yeah, about an hour and, uh,an hour and a half, a year and a
half ago.
Because that was a big, youknow, that was you, you were
caring for your mom constantly.
(17:14):
And then when she passed, youknow.
Obviously it's very sad, but itwas also an opportunity for you
to be like, okay, I have some ofmy life back.
Well, and what do you wanna do?
Right?
Kat (17:28):
With my brother and the stroke impacting three areas of
his brain.
That led to conversations withdoctors on how to build
neuropathways.
Mm-hmm.
We had to do languaging and allthat.
Tracie (17:40):
Right.
Kat (17:41):
And then in addition, it's like, so I got neuropathways
here and then I gotneuropathways with my mom that
were breaking down'cause she haddementia because she had
dementia and Alzheimer's.
So it's understanding the brainin two different, you know.
Two different stages of life.
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
And so those conversations and
Tracie (18:01):
kind of decay and repair like both sides of it, right.
One was decay.
There you go.
Decay and repair.
Kat (18:07):
I like that.
Tracie (18:08):
Yeah.
Kat (18:09):
So
Tracie (18:09):
you can use that.
Kat (18:10):
Understanding that, and then that brain science and
conversations with the doctorled me into neuroscience and
having to understand it at thatlevel, which then led me to, and
I couldn't even tell you how Igot on these paths, but then
that led me to unconsciousmindset work and understanding
(18:34):
how.
A lot of the coaching that I hadlearned in corporate was at the
conscious level.
Mm-hmm.
Which is the reason why I wasn'talways connecting with everyone
that I was speaking to, becausea lot of the conversations I
needed to be having in thosetimes was at the unconscious
level because they had stuffgoing on from their childhood
(18:58):
that we never talked about.
Tracie (19:00):
Well, and you're talking about bridging different
cultures.
Whole different con cu country,you know, setups.
And so I am, you know, I'mimagining like, um, you know,
again, referring to my husband,right?
He has teams in India, there'speople in Croatia or, or
actually in Ukraine, I meanmm-hmm.
And then of course, people herein the States and you know,
(19:23):
there is a disconnect betweensomeone in India and someone in
the States being able to reallyconnect because there's just
like, you just don't talk.
It's not only a language, it'slike the underlying language,
right?
The language of respect and howyou introduce yourself to
someone.
One of the things he is alwaystelling me is like they'll send
(19:45):
a instant message or a messageon teams, and it's just like, hi
Tim, and he's like.
Hi, what can I do for you?
Like, you know, in the hopesthat they would say, hi Tim, I
have a question for you.
And ask the question all in thefirst message.
But that's not how they work,like socially, right?
And in their, you know,upbringing.
(20:06):
So you were going through allthat with your teams, and then
you have this whole decay andrepair, and that's like, how do
those.
Areas of life talk to eachother.
So it's really interesting howyou've always been this bridge
to understand the differentstages of a communication,
whether it's people at work orpeople who are, you know,
(20:29):
healing or not,
Kat (20:31):
right?
Yeah, and it's weird becausethe, the, the people that I work
with that were from India andactually are.
Based in the us based on theirvisas and all that.
Yeah.
Are the ones that I stay mostlyconnected to in person and I
(20:52):
still go out and have lunch withthem and everything else because
that's how well we built thoserelationships.
The bridge.
Yeah.
To build that bridge.
Tracie (21:02):
Well, that makes so much sense, right?
They relied on you to help thecommunication happen, and so you
made a tighter bond with themmm-hmm.
As opposed to people who arealready here in the states who
they just lived their lifeRight.
And, and showed up.
Right.
And it's a different, it's adifferent, different
perspective.
I love that.
That's amazing.
Kat (21:23):
Yeah.
Which is the reason why now Ihave this new vision that's
blossoming for next year.
Tracie (21:29):
Yeah.
Anything you're interested insharing?
Kat (21:32):
So this vision that I have blossoming for next year is to
actually work with teams andleaders that are in that merger
buyout state.
Mm-hmm.
Because of the fact thatcommunication is so.
Different and unique andchallenging, and yet that bridge
can be so powerful.
Tracie (21:53):
Bridge the corporate cultures, bridge the corporate
cultures.
I love it.
I love it.
I mean, I, so I was infacilities for 17 years and I
did a lot of merging ofbuildings and moving groups
together, right?
And.
I totally see that the twodifferent companies in a merger
or an acquisition, which isalmost always an acquisition,
(22:14):
that even if they call it amerger, um, yeah, they're not on
the same page and someone'sfeeling resentful and someone's
feeling better than the others.
And like there's all of thosekind of funky dynamics about the
two companies.
I love that.
I think that'll be amazing for,'cause
Kat (22:32):
there's so much unknown when that happens.
Tracie (22:36):
Mm-hmm.
And there's a lot of fear.
Yeah.
Like, are we gonna all lose ourjobs?
Yeah.
What's gonna happen?
Did they buy us so they couldput us in the trash can?
Like, you know, did they onlybuy us for our tech and not for
our people?
Like those are such recurringthemes and all of that.
I love that.
That's amazing.
Okay, so how do you use.
(22:58):
P reiki and hypnotherapy inthat, which I realize was not
the plan, but, you know, let'stouch on that'cause we're, we're
gonna end up like talking waytoo long, but I wanna make sure
to talk about how you, you know,here in the Gather community
working with solopreneurs andcoaches and the people that you
know, that we have in ourcircles outside of the corporate
(23:19):
work.
Uh, you know, you're, you're,you've become a master NLP
coach, you've become a reikimaster, you're doing
hypnotherapy, you have a newmembership.
So talk a little bit about thosethings, specifically for
probably who our audience is,which is typically women leaders
and entrepreneurs.
(23:40):
So the
Kat (23:41):
NLP is all about the mindset.
It's all about.
Communication.
It's all about how ourcommunication is impacted by
our, our thoughts, our memories,our beliefs, our experiences
from way back when in ourchildhood and beyond.
Um, and so NLP will go, whetherit's one-on-one corporate group.
(24:09):
All of that.
Um, it will go everywhere andanywhere with me.
The reiki can be a littledifferent.
It's, so what I tell people isI'm science, which, you know,
and I'm woo so I'm science andwoo.
Tracie (24:28):
And there's so much that now though about Woo, being
based in science.
Like Woo is needs like, I thinkthat term really is gonna go by
the wayside before too longbecause they're finding so much
more reality in the things weused to call Woo.
Kat (24:44):
So there are hospitals now that bring Reiki healing into
the hospital rooms to reallybuild up the energy levels in
those that are healing.
Tracie (24:59):
Yeah, I love that.
I was just talking with anothergal who's a hypnotherapist who
was talking very similarly abouthypnotherapy as well.
Kat (25:06):
Yes.
Tracie (25:07):
Amazing.
So,
Kat (25:08):
yeah, so hypnotherapy is.
It's like the science and thewoo combined.
Yeah.
Um, and it go, it's reallytapping into that unconscious
mind because a lot of times wedo the conscious work and we
don't always do the unconsciouswork.
So the science and the woo andthe hypnotherapy help bridge
(25:32):
that with, um, in addition toreleases and the timeline
techniques.
Tracie (25:38):
Yeah.
Kat (25:39):
Um.
At the quantum level for theunconscious mind.
So all of that in bringing thealignment in, uh, allows us to
really like free up and expandour energy and move forward with
this expanded mindset.
Tracie (25:56):
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
It's, it's incredible.
And that, that work for peoplewho haven't experienced it, all
it takes is a littlewillingness.
To try it and you, when you'rewilling to try it, then you're
there in a state of willingness.
Yeah.
And all of a sudden it willlike, you feel it, you see how
(26:17):
it affects you.
It's the people who aren'twilling who think it is weird,
right?
Yeah.
But as soon as you are like, youknow what, maybe, maybe I should
just give it a shot andexperience it for myself.
As soon as you say that toyourself and try a session or
try a group or whatever, it allchanges.
Kat (26:39):
Right?
Which is the reason why Istarted my membership is so
people can ex.
Experience, um, meditation andexperience reiki and experience
breath work and yeah.
Group hypnotherapy and toolslike that in a safe environment.
Tracie (26:57):
Yeah.
Where
Kat (26:58):
they're not like just me and them and they're like.
Yeah, I don't know what to do.
Yeah.
So it gives them that safe spaceto experience it at a very low
cost.
Tracie (27:08):
Yeah.
I love it.
I love it.
And I'm thrilled to be afounding member of your
membership because I a hundredpercent believe in it.
Um, and I'm looking forward tothe, I think it's next week
where I'm gonna get my firstopportunity to be at a thing, so
that's gonna be amazing.
And yeah, anyone who'slistening, you know, if you're.
If you tell yourself you can'tmeditate if you tell yourself,
(27:30):
I, I haven't done that, I'm not,you know, whatever.
Like give yourself permission tosay, I wonder what it would be
like.
Yeah.
And as soon as you open that,then come try it out.
Because, because you never knowuntil you try.
Just like eating yourvegetables.
You never know if you like ituntil you try and we know it's
good for us, so give it a try
Kat (27:52):
and it tastes good.
We all know whether you say youcan or you say you can't, you're
right.
Right.
So it just depends on whichdirection you wanna go.
Tracie (28:02):
Yep.
Yeah.
Be open to it.
I love it.
Amazing.
Okay, Kat, we're gonna make sureto have the info for your
membership in the show notes andeverything, and.
I love this, this wholeconversation.
'cause it really gave a, a morein depth picture of like, you
know, you are a natural like,communication bridge, whether
(28:25):
it's between you and someonethat, uh, you have met before or
just you're, you can hear likethe listening, those listening
skills that you fostered fromthe very beginning that got you
where you went.
Kat (28:41):
Uh,
Tracie (28:42):
it's, it's what, that's the value of coaching.
It's the value of all of thiswork is to have someone hear us
and see us so that we can then,uh, be understood mm-hmm.
And supported to go forward.
So, I'm thrilled that you're inthis space.
I love the, the plan to worktowards corporate teams.
(29:03):
I love that that's gonna be in adifferent community, but for us.
We're gonna be a part of your,what is it?
What's the name of themembership again?
Calm, clarity and Reset.
Calm Clarity.
Reset.
For some reason I had like riseresilient.
Something.
Maybe that was a differentthing.
Well,
Kat (29:20):
because
Tracie (29:20):
I have my Facebook
Kat (29:21):
group where I do my interviews.
My interviews series, that'swhat it is.
A resilient, wild andunstoppable Facebook group.
Tracie (29:27):
That's what it was.
Okay.
So we're gonna make sure to haveall of those.
And in fact, I need you to sendme those because they're not on
the original form'cause it's allnew, so Right.
Thank you so much for all ofyour time today for sharing your
whole story and all of the bolddecisions that you made that got
you where you are.
I appreciate you and everyone.
Go visit Kat, get to know her,and we'll talk to you again
(29:49):
super soon.
Kat (29:51):
Awesome.
Thank you
Tracie (29:51):
so much.
Thanks sweetheart.
Are you ready for bold moves and powerful inner shifts?
Welcome to the Bold andBrilliant podcast, where women
share the decisions that changedeverything.
Today's guest is Kat Mitchell,master Transformation Coach,
certified NLP, practitioner andhypnotherapist who helps high
achieving women releaseself-doubt, imposter patterns in
(00:21):
the hidden stories that keepthem playing small.
With a deeply intuitive, yetpractical approach, Kat blends
neuroscience, NLP, hypnotherapyand energy work to create true
inner alignment and authenticconfidence.
In this episode, Kat shares thebold decision that transformed
her path and how shifting fromthe inside out can change
(00:43):
everything.
Welcome, Kat to the Bold andbrilliant podcast.
Kat Mitchell, I am so excitedthat you're here for the
podcast.
Thanks for joining me.
Yay.
I'm so glad I'm here too.
Yeah.
I'm thrilled to find on yourpodcast after I know.
I'm so excited about it because,you know, I'm really doing a
(01:03):
push to get a number of episodesout, and those of you who are in
the Gather community, I askedway back when, but it just never
was the right timing for you andme to get together.
So I'm thrilled that we're ableto still make it happen in
season one.
Yay.
Yay.
All right.
So, you know, one of the thingsthat happens here on the podcast
is I get to have greatconversations with people who
(01:26):
I've known for a long time, butI'm always trying to dig for
new.
Pieces of your story that Imight not know already and that
maybe our listeners, especiallyif they're in our community,
might not know already.
So one thing that I know aboutyou, and we'll talk about that
in a bit is, you know that youworked in tech, in corporate,
(01:48):
and you know, and then ongoing,and we'll get to that in a
minute.
But I'd love to hear about youbefore that happened.
Like what were you like?
Up growing up that made youdecide to go into that kind of a
field.
Like tell us about your the CatMitchell origin story, if you
will.
So,
Kat (02:07):
I'm laughing because the Cat Mitchell origin story says,
I am never sitting behind adesk.
I am never doing tech.
I took a computer class when Ifirst started college and said.
Heck no.
That is not for me.
That is a painful experience.
Tracie (02:27):
To sit there at a desk looking at a screen all day
long.
Kat (02:31):
I,
Tracie (02:31):
I walked outta the
Kat (02:32):
class and said, just take me out of this class.
I need creativity.
I need to do somethingdifferent.
And you know, it's weird becauseback then I didn't know all that
mindset stuff.
And I continuously had thatthought.
I'm not going to sit at a desk.
I'm not gonna sit behind acomputer.
I'm not going to and all that.
(02:54):
I'm not going to, I'm not goingto, I'm not.
Tracie (02:56):
Oh, that's so funny.
That is really interesting.
So, so if you didn't think youwanted to sit behind a desk, or
if that was definitely where youdidn't want to go, where did you
want to go?
Like, what were you hoping toaccomplish other than everything
you told your brain?
Kat (03:11):
So.
I had this, um, I was one ofthose kids where when I was
growing up, I wanted to be inveterinary medicine.
I wanted to help pets.
Tracie (03:24):
Yeah.
Kat (03:24):
And I had those parents that said, well, there's not
gonna be any pets to be a vetwhen you get older.
So that's not probably the paththat you wanna go on.
Tracie (03:34):
That's a really weird, interesting perspective.
Why did they think there weren'tgoing to be any path?
I have no idea.
Kat (03:41):
I, I have no idea.
Nonetheless, I canceled that outof my brain and by the time I
got to college, it's like, well,okay, let me figure out what I
wanna do.
So I was the collegeexperimenter.
Let's go into pre-med.
Let's try this.
Let's try chemistry.
Let's try You're so
Tracie (04:02):
scientific.
Yeah.
That's, that's not surprising atthis time.
But very interesting.
Nonetheless, I took
Kat (04:09):
psychology, I took sociology.
So I was, I was challengingmyself in this creative science
path, in this, um, biology.
Um.
Psychology and sociology of themind, really understanding that.
Um, staying completely away fromtech after my first experience.
(04:31):
So, so coming back to how did Iget in tech?
I was actually, um.
I don't even remember whointroduced me to who, but
somebody introduced me to thescout who says, I need you to
work for me in the insuranceindustry.
And I was working in insuranceunderwriting policies, and I was
(04:53):
working for a company that said,Hey, we wanna write our own
software and we need somebodywho understands insurance well
enough to, you know, build thatcollaboration between insurance
and tech.
Tracie (05:07):
Yeah,
Kat (05:07):
and I'm like, well, I know the product, but I don't know
tech.
That's not my thing, right?
And so that is, I slowly startedhelping the tech team understand
insurance, and I'm like, allright.
Now, because I'm one of thosejunkie learners, I'm like, all
(05:28):
right, now I need to understand.
Tech better because they'retelling me to do this testing
stuff and they're telling me todo development stuff and they're
telling me to do this, and I'mlike, and I have no idea what
that means.
Tracie (05:42):
Yeah.
Kat (05:43):
I don't understand any of it.
It's not, it's not what I do.
And so then I, uh, decided tointerview for companies, and the
only reason why I got into aspecific company is because.
When I went in for theinterview, it wasn't that I had
all the skillset, it was that wesat there and cracked jokes and
(06:07):
we were laughing so hard.
The interviewer and I that hesays, crap, you're just hired.
We'll figure out how to trainyou.
Tracie (06:15):
I love this.
It's so interesting because youknow the strengths that you
brought to all of that, you'resuper analytical, very like.
Clear-minded, greatcommunication, right?
Like those are all the thingsthat they needed for that
insurance to tech conversationsto happen, right?
And and that scientific brainthat you had to be able to see
(06:37):
things and understand deep ideasand everything was what you were
bringing to the table, and youdidn't even know that that was
where it was gonna be.
That makes so much sense.
Kat (06:47):
I love it in a weird, yeah.
And then after I actuallystarted working in it, then I
went back and got my degree init.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I didn't finish college until40 when I went back and then the
same month I was finallygraduating at 40.
HP called me and says, Hey, wewanna bring you on as a
(07:10):
consultant.
I'm like.
Why would HP bring me on as aconsultant?
And so they had heard frompeople that I had worked with.
Yeah.
So it was really weird.
Tracie (07:20):
Yeah, I love that.
Well,'cause you could speak thelanguage, I could speak the
language didn't have 20 years ofexperience.
You could speak the language andit's that, you know, I, my
husband's an engineer and wetalk about, uh, his frustrations
as an engineer in talking withthe customer, facing people.
And it's like they are thebridge.
(07:41):
So you were a big bridge, right?
'cause you could speak thelanguage even if you weren't the
person Right.
In every line of code, you knewexactly what the goals were,
what the client was trying tohave, what the, you know, all of
the the pieces.
You could bring it all together.
Kat (07:56):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is how I ended up in, evenwhen I got into tech.
I would not do the development'cause it was, for me, it was
really weird.
For me, it was like getting insomebody else's dirty laundry.
Yeah.
Like we're not touching that,but breaking stuff and testing.
It was powerful until I startedmy own business and then somehow
(08:17):
breaking stuff.
Tracie (08:18):
Now we really don't want our own things to break.
We'll break other people'sstuff.
It still became a gift of mine.
I'm like, dang it.
Now I'm breaking my own stuff.
Breaking your own things.
No, don't do that.
Okay, so let's talk about that.
So you were in tech, HP hired,you finished your career, 40,
not career, uh, college at 40,and you were with HP and doing,
(08:39):
or not necessarily with them,but doing that work for how
long?
And then you made another big,bold decision, not just going
back to college and finishing at40, but another one, which was.
To say no to the nextopportunity and do something
else.
Yeah.
Kat (08:55):
From hp, I ended up at, um, Cox Automotive, which designed
all the software for, uh,dealerships.
So like when you go in and you.
See if you qualify for a loan topurchase a car.
That all that software was.
Oh, financial software.
Tracie (09:12):
Okay.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Kat (09:13):
So we were writing that and I was integrating that.
My coaching actually startedbecause all my teams were us,
India, other countries.
Mm-hmm.
And so that, you know, thedifferent cultures, the
different speaking, um,communication styles, the
different, um.
(09:34):
Like,
Tracie (09:34):
how do you even man, like the personal, uh, yeah.
Personalities and different
Kat (09:39):
ways that they, you know, were willing to open up about
challenges in software is how Ientered the coaching world.
Tracie (09:49):
Yeah.
Kat (09:50):
Because I had a boss that said, Hey, you need to learn how
to get these people to talk toeach other.
To talk to each other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so that's where all that.
Where coaching started and whereI made that decision, that's
where I was working when I madethe decision that, all right, I
(10:11):
can't do everything.
And that decision was based offof the fact that in 2015 I was
working 60 hours a week and Iwas taking care of my cousin,
uh, with end stage liverdisease, and that required me
going into the hospital.
Before work at lunchtime, afterwork, and then, and you're
Tracie (10:33):
trying to work 60 hours a week and keep that all going
at the same
Kat (10:36):
time of, right.
And I would hold meetings beforeI left my house and I would hold
meetings after I got home fromthe hospital.
And so how long did
Tracie (10:45):
that go on for?
Six months.
Yeah.
That sounds like about the limitbecause it sounds exhausting.
Kat (10:53):
So prior to that, I was a runner, I was fit, and then all
of a sudden I tanked.
Mm-hmm.
And then I started regaining myenergy.
My dad got sick, and then Islowly started tanking again.
And then, you know, my momstarted developing dementia and
then my brother had the strokeand I'm like, I can't do it all.
Here's my resignation.
I'm just gonna leave and figureit out.
Tracie (11:15):
Yeah.
So give us that timeline, right?
That your, your cousin got sick,you were working 60 hours a
week, he got sick.
Then give us like the, theincrement timeline.
So
Kat (11:26):
that was, that was 2015, uh, end of 2015.
She passed in 2016.
Then end of 2016, my dad gotsick and he passed in the
beginning of 2017.
Um, and then
Tracie (11:39):
fast for everyone.
Kat (11:41):
Yeah.
And then I moved my mom to uphere, to Auburn in 2017.
And then, uh, 2019, my brotherhad the stroke.
Mm-hmm.
Which is when I decided I can'tdo it all.
I'm just gonna walk away andfigure it out.
(12:01):
Um, and then just as I wasstarting to figure it out, well,
2020.
Yep.
2020.
I'm like, January, 2020.
It's time.
We gotta start making some moneybecause all we're doing, we're
just, you know, letting themoney go out of the savings, you
know, when it's depleting.
Yeah.
So put that on the calendar,start that business, and then
(12:23):
everything shuts down.
I'm like, all right, guess we'renot starting that business this
year.
Tracie (12:28):
So did you, was this like a coaching business that
was start that you were thinkingin January and, and.
What, so what were you planningto do that the pandemic
prevented you from doing andobviously you had to shift it?
Kat (12:41):
Well, I had always been behind a desk.
I'd always been, you know, in anoffice surrounded by the people
that I worked with.
Mm-hmm.
Because I worked in an office.
Yeah.
So when the world shut down andme starting a coaching business,
I had no idea how to reach outto people virtually.
That was not my jam.
Yeah.
I spoke to India teamsvirtually.
(13:03):
But I'd already built thatrelationship with them.
Yeah.
They already knew who I was formany years of working together.
Tracie (13:10):
Well, and when you're in a corporate environment, like
the team is the team, you don'tgo searching for them.
You're not finding the clients.
Right.
It's a whole different ball wax.
Yeah.
Kat (13:21):
Yeah.
So when the world shut down, I'mlike, right, I guess I'm shut
down too.
It's like, because that was nota language I knew what to, I, I,
I didn't know that language.
Yeah.
Well then 2021 came aroundJanuary, 2021.
Let's try this again.
Let's, uh,
Tracie (13:38):
let's, so did you spend most of 2020 not, not working,
not doing anything like just.
Waiting for the, for it to comeback.
I started
Kat (13:47):
taking classes, so I became certified as a team coach
through the European mentorshipand, um, I forgot EMCC.
Uh, mentorship and council.
Tracie (14:00):
Yeah, council.
Kat (14:01):
So, um, became certified through them as a team coach.
Uh, did some other trainings.
'cause hey, what do you do?
Yeah, you learn more.
Um, and then 2021 came aroundand, um, I decided to try it
again.
It's like, all right, let's tryJanuary, 2021.
And then that's when Bud passedaway.
(14:23):
Hmm.
Which then shifted my worldagain because I was living in
his house, uh, which meant, andBud was your partner, Uhhuh.
Tracie (14:36):
Yeah.
And it was the podcast.
Not everyone knows who that is.
Kat (14:39):
Right.
So That's true.
So Bud and I had been togetherfor 11 years.
Mm-hmm.
And.
Um, he, he passed away suddenly.
It wasn't that I was taking careof him and the summer before
that he had had like threestents put in, so we thought he
was good.
Still ended up having a heartattack.
Tracie (15:00):
Oh.
Kat (15:00):
Um, and so that created a different storm in the fact that
I had to move and here I was.
I hadn't made any income in twoyears.
Tracie (15:12):
Yeah, so like rental, like income proof for rentals
and things like that.
Kat (15:17):
Yeah.
So it's like, all right, let's,let's see what the world is
gonna open up for me now'causewe gotta work some magic.
Tracie (15:27):
Yeah.
So
Kat (15:28):
I ended up actually buying a house through a hard money
loan.
Hmm.
Um, through a friend of minethat was willing to do that.
Uh, worked out perfect.
Did that for a couple years.
Um, still not the easiest thing.
And, uh, yeah, so it's been ajourney of a lot of twists and
turns.
(15:48):
Broke my arm, my right armduring the move.
Um, oh no.
Right.
Because apparently when you say,God, I just need a break.
And then as I turned around andI tripped on the step to the new
house, I broke multiple bones inmy arm.
Um, just needed a
Tracie (16:10):
break.
You're killing me.
Oh my gosh.
So be careful what you ask for.
Wow.
That's wild.
Okay, so.
Amazing.
And so you had all thesecertifications, you started your
coaching business, bud passed,you're still taking care of your
brother, you're taking yourmom's in, in, you know, doing,
(16:33):
having her own kind of towardthe end of life journey as an
older lady.
And then I know your mom passedaway, your brother got better.
We like this.
And you know, and that's a goodthing.
And, and then I would say, youknow, around.
I would say this time last year,but that's too recent.
A year and a half ago.
(16:53):
Like when did you, when was itthat your mom passed away?
So my mom passed away in Augustof 2024.
August.
Okay.
So, yeah, so it's November now.
So yeah, about an hour and, uh,an hour and a half, a year and a
half ago.
Because that was a big, youknow, that was you, you were
caring for your mom constantly.
(17:14):
And then when she passed, youknow.
Obviously it's very sad, but itwas also an opportunity for you
to be like, okay, I have some ofmy life back.
Well, and what do you wanna do?
Right?
Kat (17:28):
With my brother and the stroke impacting three areas of
his brain.
That led to conversations withdoctors on how to build
neuropathways.
Mm-hmm.
We had to do languaging and allthat.
Tracie (17:40):
Right.
Kat (17:41):
And then in addition, it's like, so I got neuropathways
here and then I gotneuropathways with my mom that
were breaking down'cause she haddementia because she had
dementia and Alzheimer's.
So it's understanding the brainin two different, you know.
Two different stages of life.
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
And so those conversations and
Tracie (18:01):
kind of decay and repair like both sides of it, right.
One was decay.
There you go.
Decay and repair.
Kat (18:07):
I like that.
Tracie (18:08):
Yeah.
Kat (18:09):
So
Tracie (18:09):
you can use that.
Kat (18:10):
Understanding that, and then that brain science and
conversations with the doctorled me into neuroscience and
having to understand it at thatlevel, which then led me to, and
I couldn't even tell you how Igot on these paths, but then
that led me to unconsciousmindset work and understanding
(18:34):
how.
A lot of the coaching that I hadlearned in corporate was at the
conscious level.
Mm-hmm.
Which is the reason why I wasn'talways connecting with everyone
that I was speaking to, becausea lot of the conversations I
needed to be having in thosetimes was at the unconscious
level because they had stuffgoing on from their childhood
(18:58):
that we never talked about.
Tracie (19:00):
Well, and you're talking about bridging different
cultures.
Whole different con cu country,you know, setups.
And so I am, you know, I'mimagining like, um, you know,
again, referring to my husband,right?
He has teams in India, there'speople in Croatia or, or
actually in Ukraine, I meanmm-hmm.
And then of course, people herein the States and you know,
(19:23):
there is a disconnect betweensomeone in India and someone in
the States being able to reallyconnect because there's just
like, you just don't talk.
It's not only a language, it'slike the underlying language,
right?
The language of respect and howyou introduce yourself to
someone.
One of the things he is alwaystelling me is like they'll send
(19:45):
a instant message or a messageon teams, and it's just like, hi
Tim, and he's like.
Hi, what can I do for you?
Like, you know, in the hopesthat they would say, hi Tim, I
have a question for you.
And ask the question all in thefirst message.
But that's not how they work,like socially, right?
And in their, you know,upbringing.
(20:06):
So you were going through allthat with your teams, and then
you have this whole decay andrepair, and that's like, how do
those.
Areas of life talk to eachother.
So it's really interesting howyou've always been this bridge
to understand the differentstages of a communication,
whether it's people at work orpeople who are, you know,
(20:29):
healing or not,
Kat (20:31):
right?
Yeah, and it's weird becausethe, the, the people that I work
with that were from India andactually are.
Based in the us based on theirvisas and all that.
Yeah.
Are the ones that I stay mostlyconnected to in person and I
(20:52):
still go out and have lunch withthem and everything else because
that's how well we built thoserelationships.
The bridge.
Yeah.
To build that bridge.
Tracie (21:02):
Well, that makes so much sense, right?
They relied on you to help thecommunication happen, and so you
made a tighter bond with themmm-hmm.
As opposed to people who arealready here in the states who
they just lived their lifeRight.
And, and showed up.
Right.
And it's a different, it's adifferent, different
perspective.
I love that.
That's amazing.
Kat (21:23):
Yeah.
Which is the reason why now Ihave this new vision that's
blossoming for next year.
Tracie (21:29):
Yeah.
Anything you're interested insharing?
Kat (21:32):
So this vision that I have blossoming for next year is to
actually work with teams andleaders that are in that merger
buyout state.
Mm-hmm.
Because of the fact thatcommunication is so.
Different and unique andchallenging, and yet that bridge
can be so powerful.
Tracie (21:53):
Bridge the corporate cultures, bridge the corporate
cultures.
I love it.
I love it.
I mean, I, so I was infacilities for 17 years and I
did a lot of merging ofbuildings and moving groups
together, right?
And.
I totally see that the twodifferent companies in a merger
or an acquisition, which isalmost always an acquisition,
(22:14):
that even if they call it amerger, um, yeah, they're not on
the same page and someone'sfeeling resentful and someone's
feeling better than the others.
And like there's all of thosekind of funky dynamics about the
two companies.
I love that.
I think that'll be amazing for,'cause
Kat (22:32):
there's so much unknown when that happens.
Tracie (22:36):
Mm-hmm.
And there's a lot of fear.
Yeah.
Like, are we gonna all lose ourjobs?
Yeah.
What's gonna happen?
Did they buy us so they couldput us in the trash can?
Like, you know, did they onlybuy us for our tech and not for
our people?
Like those are such recurringthemes and all of that.
I love that.
That's amazing.
Okay, so how do you use.
(22:58):
P reiki and hypnotherapy inthat, which I realize was not
the plan, but, you know, let'stouch on that'cause we're, we're
gonna end up like talking waytoo long, but I wanna make sure
to talk about how you, you know,here in the Gather community
working with solopreneurs andcoaches and the people that you
know, that we have in ourcircles outside of the corporate
(23:19):
work.
Uh, you know, you're, you're,you've become a master NLP
coach, you've become a reikimaster, you're doing
hypnotherapy, you have a newmembership.
So talk a little bit about thosethings, specifically for
probably who our audience is,which is typically women leaders
and entrepreneurs.
(23:40):
So the
Kat (23:41):
NLP is all about the mindset.
It's all about.
Communication.
It's all about how ourcommunication is impacted by
our, our thoughts, our memories,our beliefs, our experiences
from way back when in ourchildhood and beyond.
Um, and so NLP will go, whetherit's one-on-one corporate group.
(24:09):
All of that.
Um, it will go everywhere andanywhere with me.
The reiki can be a littledifferent.
It's, so what I tell people isI'm science, which, you know,
and I'm woo so I'm science andwoo.
Tracie (24:28):
And there's so much that now though about Woo, being
based in science.
Like Woo is needs like, I thinkthat term really is gonna go by
the wayside before too longbecause they're finding so much
more reality in the things weused to call Woo.
Kat (24:44):
So there are hospitals now that bring Reiki healing into
the hospital rooms to reallybuild up the energy levels in
those that are healing.
Tracie (24:59):
Yeah, I love that.
I was just talking with anothergal who's a hypnotherapist who
was talking very similarly abouthypnotherapy as well.
Kat (25:06):
Yes.
Tracie (25:07):
Amazing.
So,
Kat (25:08):
yeah, so hypnotherapy is.
It's like the science and thewoo combined.
Yeah.
Um, and it go, it's reallytapping into that unconscious
mind because a lot of times wedo the conscious work and we
don't always do the unconsciouswork.
So the science and the woo andthe hypnotherapy help bridge
(25:32):
that with, um, in addition toreleases and the timeline
techniques.
Tracie (25:38):
Yeah.
Kat (25:39):
Um.
At the quantum level for theunconscious mind.
So all of that in bringing thealignment in, uh, allows us to
really like free up and expandour energy and move forward with
this expanded mindset.
Tracie (25:56):
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
It's, it's incredible.
And that, that work for peoplewho haven't experienced it, all
it takes is a littlewillingness.
To try it and you, when you'rewilling to try it, then you're
there in a state of willingness.
Yeah.
And all of a sudden it willlike, you feel it, you see how
(26:17):
it affects you.
It's the people who aren'twilling who think it is weird,
right?
Yeah.
But as soon as you are like, youknow what, maybe, maybe I should
just give it a shot andexperience it for myself.
As soon as you say that toyourself and try a session or
try a group or whatever, it allchanges.
Kat (26:39):
Right?
Which is the reason why Istarted my membership is so
people can ex.
Experience, um, meditation andexperience reiki and experience
breath work and yeah.
Group hypnotherapy and toolslike that in a safe environment.
Tracie (26:57):
Yeah.
Where
Kat (26:58):
they're not like just me and them and they're like.
Yeah, I don't know what to do.
Yeah.
So it gives them that safe spaceto experience it at a very low
cost.
Tracie (27:08):
Yeah.
I love it.
I love it.
And I'm thrilled to be afounding member of your
membership because I a hundredpercent believe in it.
Um, and I'm looking forward tothe, I think it's next week
where I'm gonna get my firstopportunity to be at a thing, so
that's gonna be amazing.
And yeah, anyone who'slistening, you know, if you're.
If you tell yourself you can'tmeditate if you tell yourself,
(27:30):
I, I haven't done that, I'm not,you know, whatever.
Like give yourself permission tosay, I wonder what it would be
like.
Yeah.
And as soon as you open that,then come try it out.
Because, because you never knowuntil you try.
Just like eating yourvegetables.
You never know if you like ituntil you try and we know it's
good for us, so give it a try
Kat (27:52):
and it tastes good.
We all know whether you say youcan or you say you can't, you're
right.
Right.
So it just depends on whichdirection you wanna go.
Tracie (28:02):
Yep.
Yeah.
Be open to it.
I love it.
Amazing.
Okay, Kat, we're gonna make sureto have the info for your
membership in the show notes andeverything, and.
I love this, this wholeconversation.
'cause it really gave a, a morein depth picture of like, you
know, you are a natural like,communication bridge, whether
(28:25):
it's between you and someonethat, uh, you have met before or
just you're, you can hear likethe listening, those listening
skills that you fostered fromthe very beginning that got you
where you went.
Kat (28:41):
Uh,
Tracie (28:42):
it's, it's what, that's the value of coaching.
It's the value of all of thiswork is to have someone hear us
and see us so that we can then,uh, be understood mm-hmm.
And supported to go forward.
So, I'm thrilled that you're inthis space.
I love the, the plan to worktowards corporate teams.
(29:03):
I love that that's gonna be in adifferent community, but for us.
We're gonna be a part of your,what is it?
What's the name of themembership again?
Calm, clarity and Reset.
Calm Clarity.
Reset.
For some reason I had like riseresilient.
Something.
Maybe that was a differentthing.
Well,
Kat (29:20):
because
Tracie (29:20):
I have my Facebook
Kat (29:21):
group where I do my interviews.
My interviews series, that'swhat it is.
A resilient, wild andunstoppable Facebook group.
Tracie (29:27):
That's what it was.
Okay.
So we're gonna make sure to haveall of those.
And in fact, I need you to sendme those because they're not on
the original form'cause it's allnew, so Right.
Thank you so much for all ofyour time today for sharing your
whole story and all of the bolddecisions that you made that got
you where you are.
I appreciate you and everyone.
Go visit Kat, get to know her,and we'll talk to you again
(29:49):
super soon.
Kat (29:51):
Awesome.
Thank you
Tracie (29:51):
so much.
Thanks sweetheart.
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