May 5, 2025 • 34 mins
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Our conversation dives into what makes this book both delightful, we explore how the novel's format, which cleverly incorporates radio transcripts into the narrative, enhances the reading experience while other elements like character development left us wanting more. The "single mom" trope feels somewhat underutilized, with Lucie's daughter Maya appearing more as a roommate than a child in many scenes.
The chemistry between characters sparked interesting debate - we found ourselves drawn to the dynamic between Lucie and her ex Grayson, adding complexity to the central romance. We couldn't help but notice the male lead on the cover bears a striking resemblance to actor Theo James, which definitely shaped how we imagined Aiden throughout the story!
Have you read any of BK Borison's books? We'd love to hear your thoughts on this one or recommendations for which of her other novels we should pick up next!
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Jordan (00:08):
welcome to the bookish hour with joran fob they are
shutting down.
Yes, well, I feel like, becausezoom is big now, and like all
those other videos like skype isjust so obsolete.
It's so, it's dinosaur era,dinosaur.
Fabienne (00:29):
Were you obsessed with dinosaurs too as a kid?
Sorry for the random question.
Jordan (00:34):
I don't know.
I liked that movie Do you knowwhat?
Like that cartoon Dinosaur whenit was like the dinosaurs and
they're like.
It's like a baby dinosaur.
Oh my gosh, do you know whatI'm talking about?
Fabienne (00:49):
I know exactly which movie you're talking about.
The thing is, though, is thatwe call he had, like, his little
friend, like, which was like atriceratops, and her name was
sarah, yes, and he had a leaflike oh my god, oh my god yes,
the movie's literally calleddinosaur dinosaur.
(01:13):
It came out.
That is not the same movie.
This one is like cgi you'retalking about, like the animated
one, like the animation movie,like this is where, actually,
like, the meteor fell and they,you know, they find this valley
of sorts where it's all greenand lush and they have food.
That actually, you know, you'reright, you're right.
Jordan (01:36):
I did also watch this movie.
This is, but you're right, thisis a different one, sarah the
Dinosaur.
Fabienne (01:41):
They're both really good movies.
Jordan (01:44):
They're really good movies oh my gosh, my phone's
like freaking okay I I can'tlook it up.
My phone's freaking out.
So we're just gonna ignore thatbut yes yes, exactly so, fab,
what is your good week?
Fabienne (02:02):
what was my good week?
I actually had it lined up inthe sense of, like I prepared
for this and now, all of asudden, I'm blank.
Um, my good week, my good week,my good week?
Wait, why don't you go first?
Because I honestly do notremember if I have something
noteworthy.
I think I do, but I can't, Ican't remember it fair, fair.
Jordan (02:23):
My good week would actually be.
I had work presentations lastweek and they are finally done
and I am so excited.
I like did mine, we did all ofours and now, like this week
started like fresh, which isgood, because I feel like work
(02:43):
like kind of fell to the waysidebecause I was working on
presentations and then Thursdayand Friday were just like shot,
so like no work got done, solike now I can finally get back
into like the groove of things,which I'm like I'm just so
excited they're done.
Fabienne (02:59):
Oh yeah.
Jordan (03:01):
I can imagine yeah.
Fabienne (03:03):
I'm so proud of you for like managing that, like you
that having done thepresentation like a boss babe.
Jordan (03:14):
Thanks no-transcript.
Fabienne (03:33):
I had to like actually speak out loud and today we are
here, flip the page to discuss.
Flip the page.
Jordan (03:39):
Yeah, I can't but but that's the thing is, that would
have been me if I didn'tactually prepare, talk about it
out loud with Nick, yeah.
So I'm like glad I did, justbecause it helped me like
organize my thoughts that Ineeded to say for each like
slide.
But now it's done.
Fabienne (03:57):
I have a weird question.
Can I see the presentation?
Like you said, like it was apowerpoint presentation, is that
?
Is that like?
Can I see?
Jordan (04:04):
yes, how am I gonna?
Fabienne (04:08):
what question?
Mark, I'm gonna see if I can,because it's on my like work
computer, so like I need to likeno, I can send it to myself, so
I will, but I'm I'm just socurious because sometimes you
see like those reels on eitherTikTok or Instagram or you know
whatever, and they're likegiving a presentation about the
(04:29):
work that you do in front ofyour friends, because nobody
knows what their friends aredoing for like a living.
Jordan (04:43):
They somewhat do on a most like surface level but like
the actual like in and out,like outside of their job, like
daily tasks, is like I have noidea.
I mean that's kind of true.
I mean all I know is you doliterally the worst profession
on the planet uh debatable um.
I don't think so speculative,your honor.
I don't.
I don't think so.
Fabienne (04:58):
I'm I'm pretty pretty positive yeah, you've
experienced it firsthand fromthe other side of the job.
Yeah, it's fine, it's okay, butI want to see the presentation.
I want to see what you said toyour peers in the workforce.
Jordan (05:18):
You want me to actually present it to you.
Fabienne (05:21):
Well, not right now.
Obviously you also don't haveto do it afterwards, but I'm
just really curious about howthat I want to do now oh my god,
now I want maybe not here, noon the podcast no, but yes, I am
genuinely curious, okay gottado it before I forget everything
.
And then I'm like you can evenlike black out the screen so you
(05:45):
don't have like the feelingthat you're actually presenting
it to me.
If that makes it more or less.
Jordan (05:50):
Well, I had to stand in front of everybody and present
it so like doing it over ascreen is going to be 10 times
better.
Fabienne (05:56):
Okay, true, true, true , true, true, true, true, true.
Yeah, but good for you forhaving that done.
Jordan (06:03):
Thank you Now.
Thank you now now.
Did you remember your good week?
Fabienne (06:06):
no, I generally did not.
Probably we'll figure out whatI wanted to say like mid podcast
, but right now I have no ideawe'll take a small intermission
of this episode to discuss yourgood week, if you remember it.
Jordan (06:21):
But then does this mean you want to get into what this
episode?
Fabienne (06:26):
is about?
Jordan (06:27):
yes, I do do you want to tell the listeners what this
podcast is about?
Fabienne (06:33):
fob we are well shit.
I had like an entire like thingsort of prepared for this.
I wanted to say goodnight orwelcome here.
Jordan (06:42):
Baltimore.
Oh my God, oh, oh, hello.
Wait, how does he even fuckingdo it?
Hello Baltimore.
Fabienne (06:53):
No, hello, welcome back to.
Jordan (06:54):
Heartstrings.
Welcome back to the bookishhour.
Everybody, we're so happy tohave you listening.
Fabienne (07:02):
Thank you for joining us on this fine day.
Slash evening night situation.
Jordan (07:09):
Um we are discussing exactly first time caller by bk
borison borison yes, yes, beforeright well, yeah, so I read um
love light farms, which is likeher Christmas book, and but I
never continued the series.
Fabienne (07:29):
Why is that?
I don't know Because I readthose are wrinkling.
Jordan (07:34):
Well, because I read Christmas Tree Farm.
No Well, christmas Tree Farm isTaylor Swift's song Love Light
Farms, like during Christmastime.
So I wasn't going to continuethe series Farms, um, like
during Christmas time.
So I wasn't going to continuethe series when it will, like
during Christmas time.
But and it's a really cuteChristmas book.
But then I just like never gotback into it because I think the
(07:55):
second one didn't interest mebut I heard the last one in the
series is like really good, butthen we got we got this one.
So what are your thoughts on?
Because this is your first bkborson but it is.
Fabienne (08:10):
It is.
I have to say I am curious toread more of hers um, I will say
that this might not have beenthe best book to start her.
Like her writing.
Jordan (08:24):
I okay.
Fabienne (08:26):
Okay.
Jordan (08:26):
I'm so I think we really weirdly, but I think we I think
we have similar thoughts,because I think this I thought
it was cute, it's a cute story,but I think I mean people are
going to kind of see, like thebook we did before this was deep
end and I think I just had sucha better experience with that
book that this one kind of fellflat, like that one I was.
(08:48):
I wanted to keep reading thisone.
I was like I'm only reading soI can finish for Tuesday that's
what it's cute.
Fabienne (08:58):
It is definitely cute.
It's like I I obviously well,not obviously, but I'm pretty
sure that you've seen it Like Ialready uploaded my Refuse to Be
Romantic, if not like a littlebit cheesy here and there, but
really cute moments as well.
But I also felt like some ofthose moments were too cliche,
(09:18):
like I like the premise of, youknow, an anti-romantic falling
in love, um, but it does, Idon't know, it does steer toward
like the cliche is like theactual word I'm looking for.
You know, there are lots ofinstances where I'm like, aiden,
honey, you should just go totherapy and not just, like you
(09:40):
know, ice out.
Um, see, I already forgot hername.
What's her name?
Lucy?
So I don't know.
There were some moments whereI'm like I'm curious, well, if
that was the best option for youto do, or have you seen sleep
in seattle?
Jordan (09:54):
I've never seen the movie, but I can't tell if this
is just like super, if that'swhy this book was like this,
because it's a lot like that.
I mean it says it's inspired byit, but I don't know.
Fabienne (10:06):
Yeah, I don't know.
Jordan (10:09):
But I've never seen the movie?
Fabienne (10:11):
I don't think I have either.
Jordan (10:13):
Okay, so like I don't.
I didn't know if that playedinto it, but okay, I do want to
make one note.
Who does the guy on the coverlook like?
Does he look like somebody toyou, like celebrity wise?
Fabienne (10:25):
I first thought like Theo James a little bit yes, yes
.
Jordan (10:29):
So the whole time I'm picturing Theo James as Aiden
which I wasn't mad about it,except like when he would get
like super cheesy and like the,especially at the end, when he's
like confessing his love to herI was like theo james wouldn't
say it like this, even thoughall I'm picturing as theo james
is four from divergent.
(10:50):
So I'm like james wouldn't saythat, but it did.
It did make me.
I did enjoy reading aiden,because I was picturing theo
james to the point like he looksso much like Theo James that I
even asked Nick.
I was like who does this guylook?
Fabienne (11:09):
like to you.
Jordan (11:10):
Does he look like somebody to you?
And he goes kind of looks likeTheo James and I was like yes.
So I think everybody I'm likedid you like basically go to the
artist being like can you do adude for me but make it look
like Theo James?
Fabienne (11:27):
copy my whole work but don't make it obvious type of
style yes, but they made itobvious really obvious.
Wait, do you think that shelooks like someone in particular
?
Then too no, did you no, I'mtrying to actually look for it
now in her face, but I don'tthink that she does look like
(11:50):
anybody he looks obvious but Idid okay.
Jordan (11:54):
Sorry, this episode's gonna be all over the place.
I did love that is fine when hecalls and he goes long time
listener, first time caller, andI was like idle drop.
Fabienne (12:06):
That was cute.
Like, like I said before, likethere are, there are really
definitely a lot of momentswhere I'm like this is adorable
and that's why I think it stillis like a really good
contemporary, like like light,fluffy romance.
You know, like it's cute, it'snot spicy, it's just like fluffy
, it's steamy.
Here and there there areobviously, like you know, some
kissy, kissy scenes, um, butit's not, but it's not okay.
(12:31):
So even someone 13, um I don'tknow, he gave me the ick oh, he
did he did?
he did remember you've seen um,uh, kristen bell's series.
That was so good.
Uh, this is not.
(12:51):
This is not for you orsomething.
This is with um, ed and brody.
Oh, oh, sort of podcast series,yes fuck what was?
Jordan (13:03):
oh, because, because, fuck.
I know what you're talking.
What the fuck is the title?
Fabienne (13:08):
I have no idea, but remember how she fights, tries
to fight this ick that she hasfor, like the hot you know,
rabbi, yes, I couldn't.
I couldn't get past it, forsomebody wants?
it.
Nobody wants this, that's it.
That's it, thank you.
I was like, oh no, oh no, hewas just too.
(13:29):
This is gonna make me soundreally bad, because apparently I
want to have like onlyunavailable, like emotionally
unavailable people around me,but he was too well.
No, actually he was actuallyemotionally unavailable pretty
much throughout the whole story,because there was also this
really weird third act, somewhatsort of breakup, which wasn't
(13:51):
actual yeah, actually a breakupbecause they were never together
, but there was such like aweird reason too yeah, it was
like a very short like.
Jordan (14:00):
You know how we were talking like last book there we
couldn't the clock, like theclimax was all over the place.
I felt like this climax waslike so short because they were
fine and it was still like 60pages left.
So you knew something was goingto happen quickly and it was
going to be resolved quickly,which I wasn't totally here for.
I think this one would havebeen a great one to be, just
(14:23):
from her point of view, becauseI think her, the way she like
didn't know what he wanted andhe wasn't very good about
talking about his feelings andthings like that.
I think if bk would have justhad this book from lucy's point
of view and then did like theepilogue from his point of view,
(14:45):
I think that would have been alot better and like cause
basically his point of viewcould have been from her point
of view and just explained like,especially like when he's like
talking about how he like had towhen he called his dad to
explain like I'm broken.
Like he could have like had awhen he called his dad to
(15:05):
explain like I'm broken.
Like he could have like had aconversation with her at like in
her point of view and been likeI needed to like fix myself
first.
So I think personally thiscould have been a lot better,
but I still thought it was cute.
Like I gave this one four stars, like I think this is still
like a cute story I'm happy Iread it right like I, I enjoyed
(15:28):
it.
I enjoyed it.
It was like a little bit of.
I think this would have takenme a lot longer to read if it
wasn't for the podcast, and Ithink I might have possibly like
switched to audio at some point.
Just, to like possibly but Ididn't, I read the whole thing.
(15:48):
I read the whole thing.
Fabienne (15:50):
I didn't applause, thank you well done, well done.
The thing.
Also, like with like aidencalling his dad, like we didn't
know throughout the entire story, we have never, like met his
dad.
We only had his mom on thephone for a few like lines.
So him basically pouring outhis heart to his dad, like how
(16:12):
he met Lucy and how he fell forher and how he's questioning
like the notion of love, likethe entire concept of it all,
I'm like I can't find my, Ican't place myself in that
moment when he was talking tohis dad, because we hadn't seen
his dad before.
Like there, there was noconnection there for the reader
to connect to, either aidan oryou know.
Like possibly like a dad inthat sense.
(16:35):
Um, also just the entire lack offamilial discussions.
I know that this is also like asingle mom book, trope-wise,
but there were so few scenesbetween her and Maya.
Was it Maya?
I think Maya is her daughter'sname, yeah, yeah, I'm like that
(16:56):
could have been a little bitmore.
Also, there were two scenes noteven two scenes, well, two
between Maya and Aiden, and thenall of a sudden he's like I
want your people to be my peopletoo, which I thought actually
was a great line.
I loved the adorable, but itcame also out of the blue.
Jordan (17:13):
Yeah, and it's not like they even talked about her, like
it wasn't like.
I have this daughter.
It was almost like she was justlike thrown into the mix.
I do agree with you there andlike I just like thrown into the
mix I do agree with you thereand like I feel like I love
Lucy's character.
Fabienne (17:30):
Like.
Jordan (17:30):
I loved her chapters.
I loved everything that shemade Lucy Like I love that she
was a mechanic, I like that shewas a single mom and she was a
young mom.
So then, she basically like thethe mechanic shop took her in
and like, let let's like work on.
Like I'm going to help you worklike this out, we'll teach you.
Like you're going to be a greatmom.
(17:51):
Like I loved that aspect of it.
Yeah, and I even liked herrelationship with her.
Like Grayson Like, yeah, likethe baby daddy, like however he
like worded it, like I likedtheir relationship and I even
liked that.
Yeah, like the baby daddy.
Fabienne (18:09):
Like however he like worded it, like I liked their
relationship and I even likedthat, like they had more
chemistry than she and Aiden.
Jordan (18:13):
To be really honest, that's like what didn't make any
sense to me.
And then I liked, yeah,especially like when he was like
standing up for her becauselike she was like being stood up
on these dates.
So I like liked everything thatLucy was, but I feel like Aiden
kind of fell flat for me in away uh, yeah, like it would come
(18:34):
to his chapters and I'd be like, oh, let's go back to Lucy's
chapters, like no, but therewere.
I, I agree like there weremoments that I'm like that was
really cute.
Fabienne (18:46):
There was definitely chemistry, but it was just
underdeveloped, I think.
Yeah, there was more like therewas like more tension.
Jordan (18:55):
Well, not even I think there was like less tension,
because I feel like it couldn'tbe dived into more, like I think
, if it was solely from onepoint of view.
I think yeah, she could havedived into like, like lucy,
feeling this attraction to aidenand it like building, but not
(19:16):
knowing that aiden there wasalso, just like so many guys,
because then, like even the guyat the shop, I'm like this is
really, is really random.
Oh yeah, like thrown in thereLike you know he's coming back
because this is fucking weird,and then all the other guys like
stand her up, like it's just.
It was a very odd premise.
I think like she should havegone on these dates instead of
(19:38):
like guys standing her up fairpoint, I actually agree like and
I can like, and even if some ofthem were like, okay, but there
was just like no magic, yeah,and then at the end to be like
there's, there isn't magic, Iwas like what did you like read
(19:59):
that part where she was like, ohyeah, no, she's like I was just
looking for magic as an excuseto not settle for anything less.
Fabienne (20:06):
That's basically what it comes down to, like honey,
the magic part that you said inthe beginning.
That's correct.
Jordan (20:13):
You have to look for the magic Don't scramble back
please.
Exactly.
I was like you even talk abouthow, or even Aiden's talked
about how.
You are the magic and I'm likethere is magic.
What are you talking about?
What are you doing?
Fabienne (20:31):
He was trying to unscramble her scrambled eggs.
Jordan (20:34):
Yeah, and even Grayson was like don't fit yourself into
a box to fit Aiden.
I was like some of it didn'ttotally connect.
I think, though.
I think this one would havebeen better for us if we read
this first and then Deep End,though, and I think so, I think
we would have liked this onemore, and then I think we would
(20:56):
have even loved Deep End more.
Fabienne (20:58):
Better.
Yeah Well, that's the crux ofyou know doing buddy reads and
you know reading authors that Ihaven't read before and that you
may or may not have read beforeeither.
It's a gamble, honey.
It's a gamble, this buddy readlife.
Jordan (21:14):
It is, but I still think it was cute.
Like again, I still overallenjoyed it.
I mean, like I said, it's avery lighthearted type of
romance and I think if you'reinto that and I guess.
I'm into it actually too,because I really did enjoy it,
(21:34):
but I didn't give it any morestars than three and a half.
Fabienne (21:37):
Okay, fair, I was just going to ask you what your star
rating was oh three and a half3.5.
I like it.
I think the main, like thebiggest issue that I book is
like the chemistry beingunderdeveloped, it not being a
(21:59):
single perspective narrativelike from Lucy's.
There's too few scenes betweenher and Maya for it to be like a
single mom trope like book.
Also, I think just the overallrelationships between or like
among all the characters is alittle bit underdeveloped.
I think if the focus would havebeen there and then on Lucy
actually going on set dates andthen herself like finding out
(22:19):
for herself that you know, aidenis possibly maybe the guy for
her, and then I think that wouldhave been that would have made
this book a little bit better ifnot more.
Jordan (22:30):
I, I agree, and because, like, going back to Maya, it
almost seemed like Maya was thislike roommate of hers, like
Lucy never took her to school,never picked her up from school,
she never did any of the thingsthat like a mom would do, so it
was almost like I.
That's why I almost wonder, Iactually I wonder if this story
was different at one point inthe sense of like maybe Maya was
(22:55):
a roommate and Grayson, andlike like Mateo, were like the
next door neighbors, but Graysonwas her ex, but they were like
really good friends.
And then either an editor orsomebody told her like you
should have Maya be the daughterinstead of a roommate, because,
you're right, it Maya almostlike doesn't fit as a kid and
(23:19):
the way she's like talking tolike it was odd.
As for like an 11, an 1112-year-old.
Fabienne (23:26):
Uh-huh.
Jordan (23:27):
Like most of them are like ew cooties and she was like
did you bang?
She didn't say it like that,but it was like some euphemism
for banging and I was like whywould a 12-year-old wouldn't
think that a 12 year old wouldbe like eww cooties?
Fabienne (23:48):
I'm not speaking for all 12 year olds here, but like
well, definitely Gen Z 12 yearolds, apparently not millennials
12 year olds, cause, withpigtails I never know I can get
what's.
The difference is so huge.
Oh my goodness.
Yes, that is true, but I amwait, wait.
(24:16):
I have to ask because now mybrain is just like going off
like this sidetrack.
When you were 12, did you alsolike perform for your friends,
like when you were doing likekaraoke and then you would
choreograph, or how do you?
Jordan (24:28):
say, like dance, and then just perform yeah and then.
Fabienne (24:31):
Oh, my goodness, do people still do?
Jordan (24:33):
that is that no, I think it ended with us.
Fabienne (24:37):
It ended with us oh, my goodness, oh yeah, oh, no
wait, they post about it now ontiktok.
That's, that's the difference.
Jordan (24:44):
That's the difference, and they make money yeah, that's
the difference and they lookway better like the 12 and like
15 year olds.
Fabienne (24:52):
Honey, they have like a 50 step like skincare routine
yeah, just like, and I wasslather on like an entire jar of
nivia and I'd be I'd be good togo, yeah.
Yeah, good times, good times.
Jordan (25:07):
Fucking great times.
It's fine, it's fine, it'stotally fine.
Fabienne (25:12):
I'm sorry, I cut you off before we went on this side
quest, sorry.
What do you want to say?
Yeah, sorry.
What do you want to say, babe?
I don't know what was I sayingI don't know something about the
side characters.
I heard like gr, so maybegrayson, maybe mateo, maybe a
(25:36):
possible thought.
Who do you?
Jordan (25:38):
think is going to be like the next book we are still
on the same wavelength.
Fabienne (25:43):
Um, I think it's gonna be jackson unfortunately.
Wait, why do you sayunfortunately?
Because I think he's like suchlike a goofy, not likable type
of person.
He's like too cringy and Ican't.
Jordan (25:57):
I can't do cringy middleman characters the thing
is is like what's hot about theletter?
So I'm like why?
But I feel like, unless delilahI think it's delilah it might
not be oh yeah, there was, yeah,no, no, no, it was.
She was mentioned a coupletimes like unless, like she's
(26:21):
fucking amazing new york citycity.
But I think, yeah, I kind ofagree, like I think His book
would need to be very funny andI don't want to learn Anything
about weather.
Fabienne (26:37):
No.
Jordan (26:38):
I don't need to know.
Fabienne (26:38):
About tornadoes or what storms or you know, lava.
Jordan (26:43):
Lava.
Fabienne (26:46):
He was talking about Vol, about volcanoes, right at
one point.
Jordan (26:49):
Yeah, and they live in baltimore or maryland and
there's no volcanoes.
Yeah, so that means that youcan't talk about volcanoes ever,
apparently nope, but so do youthink you would pick up the next
book, or do you think you wouldlike?
Fabienne (27:06):
Well, I would definitely give it a try,
because I did Again, apart fromall the things that I you know.
Jordan (27:13):
That I had.
Fabienne (27:16):
I did like the writing style.
Ok, I like the formatting.
I really I don't think that thenext book is going to have like
the same actual formatting asthis one, because I'm not sure.
Wait, jackson doesn't have itsown.
Jordan (27:30):
Yeah, he's yeah, but it's different, like because but
I do, I agree, like I loved thelike random, like clearly this
is like when they're recordingand then who's like talking.
Of course, this is whenJackson's talking about freezing
rain.
That's the one I pulled up andvery interesting I, so I loved
this.
Yeah, that was cute, that wascute, that was cute oh, I'm
(27:56):
sorry that was a burp oh, let itout, let it out oh well, I'll,
I shall not, you'd be afraid.
Fabienne (28:05):
Um, I wanted to say something else too About this
book.
Why am I so?
Jordan (28:22):
Forgetful today.
Okay, it's like late.
Fabienne (28:24):
I'm sorry.
No, no, no it's still in themiddle eight o'clock.
This doesn't matter.
I do really.
I do well at eight apparentlyonly just not today honestly, I
saw someone like ask um in thegroup chat this um earlier today
, like he was gonna meet us likeat the at like this pop quiz
(28:44):
thing today for sorry, veryrandom anecdote and like oh, how
late is that?
Oh, you know, 10, 30, like atnight or like in the morning.
Jordan (28:58):
I think it's a little too late for me I'd rather not.
Fabienne (29:02):
I'd rather not.
Um, but'd rather not.
But no, I don't know what.
Wait, oh no, I thought.
I thought I remember what Iwanted to say, what my good
thing was this week, but alsonot.
Oh my goodness, I really havelike Swiss cheese for a brain.
I do apologize for that.
Jordan (29:19):
Okay, it happens to the best of us.
Fabienne (29:21):
Yeah, I do now.
Oh no, no wait.
I do now.
Oh no, no wait, I do know, I doknow, I do know.
Tell me, oh my God, tell me.
The new Suzanne Collins book isout today.
Oh my God, I'm so excited.
That was my good week.
I bought it.
Jordan (29:37):
Oh, I'm so jealous.
Fuck, maybe I'm going to go getit after this.
Honestly, you should well, I'min a sweatsuit, I'm in taylor
swift's sweatsuit.
Fabienne (29:50):
But is that your pete?
Oh, no, wait, peaches.
Yes, no sweatshirt but it'sonly like three my time yeah,
you have the rest of the entireday of you ahead of you.
Is it love you?
Is it crescent?
Jordan (30:04):
I'm sorry, I was looking at your necklace actually this
is what I got when I wasvisiting, you remember, in
Utrecht yes, yes, yeah, thereally cute, the really cutesy
city with also the canals wherewe were sitting, like down
(30:27):
canals sideways.
Fabienne (30:29):
Just say yes, just nod and say yes, please, okay,
fantastic, it was good of you,honey, fantastic, yeah, thanks,
you're most welcome.
Jordan (30:41):
But I am so excited I want to read that.
Should we buddy read that one?
Do we buddy read that one, ordo we just no, no, no um?
Fabienne (30:51):
wait, how about we read it separately and then, if
we have finished it?
Then we do it yeah how does abuddy read wait?
I want to look separately whatI wanted to look up like the
definition for a buddy read.
Wait, I want to look.
Can we read it separately?
What I wanted to look up thedefinition for a buddy read,
(31:12):
read stories separately and thendiscuss it afterwards.
So basically a buddy read.
Jordan (31:17):
But without it being like no pressure, like you don't
need to read it Exactly yeah,exactly.
Exactly, I didn't realize.
Okay, a buddy read involves twoor more people agreeing to read
the same book and discuss ittogether, either during or after
reading, often offering a moresocial and engaging reading
experience.
So it doesn't say like okay, abuddy read is essentially a mini
(31:41):
book club where you and afriend or a group of friends
choose a book and read itsimultaneously, allowing for
shared discussions and reactions.
Still no separately.
Sorry, okay, I just had to likewait did you think of what you
wanted to say for first timecaller?
Fabienne (32:01):
no, no, that thought has long gone fair.
But but I would still recommendit because I, like the, I
really enjoy an author and anillustrator who, you know, put
so much effort in their booklike the cover, the format,
entire thing.
I loved it Would still actually, like I said, recommend it,
(32:23):
recommend it, but there weresome issues with this book, most
definitely, yes, I do actuallyreally, like I said, recommended
, recommended, but there weresome issues with this book?
Jordan (32:28):
Most definitely.
Yes, I do actually really likethe cover.
Like I'm excited to have it onmy bookshelf, like I think it's
so cute.
But I actually like all of hercovers.
Like I love all the covers tothe Lovelight series, like
Lovelight Farms In the WeedsMcSignal Business Casual, like
all of those covers are so cuteand so hopefully the next book
(32:48):
in this series is fucking cute,it better be.
Fabienne (32:50):
Well, I hope it's going to be like the same artist
I'd hope so too because I youknow how I don't really do well
with illustrated covers withlike cartoony people yeah, this
is, this is cute.
This is really cute.
I feel like this is a short one, as in like the episode.
(33:10):
I'm sorry.
Jordan (33:12):
I think it's because we didn't totally love the book but
we liked it, Like we recommendit and I'm assuming- everybody
liked it and did not love it.
Yeah, Three and a half fourstars, Like pretty solid, pretty
solid.
Hopefully everybody listeningto this like also liked it, or
something.
Fabienne (33:34):
Or something.
Thank you, baltimore, forlistening, and if you don't have
anything else to say as well,jordan, then I'd say good night.
Jordan (33:46):
Night, oh people, then I'd say good night.
Night, oh people.
Fabienne (33:49):
Thank you so much for listening.
Jordan (33:51):
And please don't forget to rate and review wherever you
can find us.
Fabienne (33:54):
So catch you next time .
Jordan (33:57):
Bye.
welcome to the bookish hour with joran fob they are
shutting down.
Yes, well, I feel like, becausezoom is big now, and like all
those other videos like skype isjust so obsolete.
It's so, it's dinosaur era,dinosaur.
Fabienne (00:29):
Were you obsessed with dinosaurs too as a kid?
Sorry for the random question.
Jordan (00:34):
I don't know.
I liked that movie Do you knowwhat?
Like that cartoon Dinosaur whenit was like the dinosaurs and
they're like.
It's like a baby dinosaur.
Oh my gosh, do you know whatI'm talking about?
Fabienne (00:49):
I know exactly which movie you're talking about.
The thing is, though, is thatwe call he had, like, his little
friend, like, which was like atriceratops, and her name was
sarah, yes, and he had a leaflike oh my god, oh my god yes,
the movie's literally calleddinosaur dinosaur.
(01:13):
It came out.
That is not the same movie.
This one is like cgi you'retalking about, like the animated
one, like the animation movie,like this is where, actually,
like, the meteor fell and they,you know, they find this valley
of sorts where it's all greenand lush and they have food.
That actually, you know, you'reright, you're right.
Jordan (01:36):
I did also watch this movie.
This is, but you're right, thisis a different one, sarah the
Dinosaur.
Fabienne (01:41):
They're both really good movies.
Jordan (01:44):
They're really good movies oh my gosh, my phone's
like freaking okay I I can'tlook it up.
My phone's freaking out.
So we're just gonna ignore thatbut yes yes, exactly so, fab,
what is your good week?
Fabienne (02:02):
what was my good week?
I actually had it lined up inthe sense of, like I prepared
for this and now, all of asudden, I'm blank.
Um, my good week, my good week,my good week?
Wait, why don't you go first?
Because I honestly do notremember if I have something
noteworthy.
I think I do, but I can't, Ican't remember it fair, fair.
Jordan (02:23):
My good week would actually be.
I had work presentations lastweek and they are finally done
and I am so excited.
I like did mine, we did all ofours and now, like this week
started like fresh, which isgood, because I feel like work
(02:43):
like kind of fell to the waysidebecause I was working on
presentations and then Thursdayand Friday were just like shot,
so like no work got done, solike now I can finally get back
into like the groove of things,which I'm like I'm just so
excited they're done.
Fabienne (02:59):
Oh yeah.
Jordan (03:01):
I can imagine yeah.
Fabienne (03:03):
I'm so proud of you for like managing that, like you
that having done thepresentation like a boss babe.
Jordan (03:14):
Thanks no-transcript.
Fabienne (03:33):
I had to like actually speak out loud and today we are
here, flip the page to discuss.
Flip the page.
Jordan (03:39):
Yeah, I can't but but that's the thing is, that would
have been me if I didn'tactually prepare, talk about it
out loud with Nick, yeah.
So I'm like glad I did, justbecause it helped me like
organize my thoughts that Ineeded to say for each like
slide.
But now it's done.
Fabienne (03:57):
I have a weird question.
Can I see the presentation?
Like you said, like it was apowerpoint presentation, is that
?
Is that like?
Can I see?
Jordan (04:04):
yes, how am I gonna?
Fabienne (04:08):
what question?
Mark, I'm gonna see if I can,because it's on my like work
computer, so like I need to likeno, I can send it to myself, so
I will, but I'm I'm just socurious because sometimes you
see like those reels on eitherTikTok or Instagram or you know
whatever, and they're likegiving a presentation about the
(04:29):
work that you do in front ofyour friends, because nobody
knows what their friends aredoing for like a living.
Jordan (04:43):
They somewhat do on a most like surface level but like
the actual like in and out,like outside of their job, like
daily tasks, is like I have noidea.
I mean that's kind of true.
I mean all I know is you doliterally the worst profession
on the planet uh debatable um.
I don't think so speculative,your honor.
I don't.
I don't think so.
Fabienne (04:58):
I'm I'm pretty pretty positive yeah, you've
experienced it firsthand fromthe other side of the job.
Yeah, it's fine, it's okay, butI want to see the presentation.
I want to see what you said toyour peers in the workforce.
Jordan (05:18):
You want me to actually present it to you.
Fabienne (05:21):
Well, not right now.
Obviously you also don't haveto do it afterwards, but I'm
just really curious about howthat I want to do now oh my god,
now I want maybe not here, noon the podcast no, but yes, I am
genuinely curious, okay gottado it before I forget everything
.
And then I'm like you can evenlike black out the screen so you
(05:45):
don't have like the feelingthat you're actually presenting
it to me.
If that makes it more or less.
Jordan (05:50):
Well, I had to stand in front of everybody and present
it so like doing it over ascreen is going to be 10 times
better.
Fabienne (05:56):
Okay, true, true, true , true, true, true, true, true.
Yeah, but good for you forhaving that done.
Jordan (06:03):
Thank you Now.
Thank you now now.
Did you remember your good week?
Fabienne (06:06):
no, I generally did not.
Probably we'll figure out whatI wanted to say like mid podcast
, but right now I have no ideawe'll take a small intermission
of this episode to discuss yourgood week, if you remember it.
Jordan (06:21):
But then does this mean you want to get into what this
episode?
Fabienne (06:26):
is about?
Jordan (06:27):
yes, I do do you want to tell the listeners what this
podcast is about?
Fabienne (06:33):
fob we are well shit.
I had like an entire like thingsort of prepared for this.
I wanted to say goodnight orwelcome here.
Jordan (06:42):
Baltimore.
Oh my God, oh, oh, hello.
Wait, how does he even fuckingdo it?
Hello Baltimore.
Fabienne (06:53):
No, hello, welcome back to.
Jordan (06:54):
Heartstrings.
Welcome back to the bookishhour.
Everybody, we're so happy tohave you listening.
Fabienne (07:02):
Thank you for joining us on this fine day.
Slash evening night situation.
Jordan (07:09):
Um we are discussing exactly first time caller by bk
borison borison yes, yes, beforeright well, yeah, so I read um
love light farms, which is likeher Christmas book, and but I
never continued the series.
Fabienne (07:29):
Why is that?
I don't know Because I readthose are wrinkling.
Jordan (07:34):
Well, because I read Christmas Tree Farm.
No Well, christmas Tree Farm isTaylor Swift's song Love Light
Farms, like during Christmastime.
So I wasn't going to continuethe series Farms, um, like
during Christmas time.
So I wasn't going to continuethe series when it will, like
during Christmas time.
But and it's a really cuteChristmas book.
But then I just like never gotback into it because I think the
(07:55):
second one didn't interest mebut I heard the last one in the
series is like really good, butthen we got we got this one.
So what are your thoughts on?
Because this is your first bkborson but it is.
Fabienne (08:10):
It is.
I have to say I am curious toread more of hers um, I will say
that this might not have beenthe best book to start her.
Like her writing.
Jordan (08:24):
I okay.
Fabienne (08:26):
Okay.
Jordan (08:26):
I'm so I think we really weirdly, but I think we I think
we have similar thoughts,because I think this I thought
it was cute, it's a cute story,but I think I mean people are
going to kind of see, like thebook we did before this was deep
end and I think I just had sucha better experience with that
book that this one kind of fellflat, like that one I was.
(08:48):
I wanted to keep reading thisone.
I was like I'm only reading soI can finish for Tuesday that's
what it's cute.
Fabienne (08:58):
It is definitely cute.
It's like I I obviously well,not obviously, but I'm pretty
sure that you've seen it Like Ialready uploaded my Refuse to Be
Romantic, if not like a littlebit cheesy here and there, but
really cute moments as well.
But I also felt like some ofthose moments were too cliche,
(09:18):
like I like the premise of, youknow, an anti-romantic falling
in love, um, but it does, Idon't know, it does steer toward
like the cliche is like theactual word I'm looking for.
You know, there are lots ofinstances where I'm like, aiden,
honey, you should just go totherapy and not just, like you
(09:40):
know, ice out.
Um, see, I already forgot hername.
What's her name?
Lucy?
So I don't know.
There were some moments whereI'm like I'm curious, well, if
that was the best option for youto do, or have you seen sleep
in seattle?
Jordan (09:54):
I've never seen the movie, but I can't tell if this
is just like super, if that'swhy this book was like this,
because it's a lot like that.
I mean it says it's inspired byit, but I don't know.
Fabienne (10:06):
Yeah, I don't know.
Jordan (10:09):
But I've never seen the movie?
Fabienne (10:11):
I don't think I have either.
Jordan (10:13):
Okay, so like I don't.
I didn't know if that playedinto it, but okay, I do want to
make one note.
Who does the guy on the coverlook like?
Does he look like somebody toyou, like celebrity wise?
Fabienne (10:25):
I first thought like Theo James a little bit yes, yes
.
Jordan (10:29):
So the whole time I'm picturing Theo James as Aiden
which I wasn't mad about it,except like when he would get
like super cheesy and like the,especially at the end, when he's
like confessing his love to herI was like theo james wouldn't
say it like this, even thoughall I'm picturing as theo james
is four from divergent.
(10:50):
So I'm like james wouldn't saythat, but it did.
It did make me.
I did enjoy reading aiden,because I was picturing theo
james to the point like he looksso much like Theo James that I
even asked Nick.
I was like who does this guylook?
Fabienne (11:09):
like to you.
Jordan (11:10):
Does he look like somebody to you?
And he goes kind of looks likeTheo James and I was like yes.
So I think everybody I'm likedid you like basically go to the
artist being like can you do adude for me but make it look
like Theo James?
Fabienne (11:27):
copy my whole work but don't make it obvious type of
style yes, but they made itobvious really obvious.
Wait, do you think that shelooks like someone in particular
?
Then too no, did you no, I'mtrying to actually look for it
now in her face, but I don'tthink that she does look like
(11:50):
anybody he looks obvious but Idid okay.
Jordan (11:54):
Sorry, this episode's gonna be all over the place.
I did love that is fine when hecalls and he goes long time
listener, first time caller, andI was like idle drop.
Fabienne (12:06):
That was cute.
Like, like I said before, likethere are, there are really
definitely a lot of momentswhere I'm like this is adorable
and that's why I think it stillis like a really good
contemporary, like like light,fluffy romance.
You know, like it's cute, it'snot spicy, it's just like fluffy
, it's steamy.
Here and there there areobviously, like you know, some
kissy, kissy scenes, um, butit's not, but it's not okay.
(12:31):
So even someone 13, um I don'tknow, he gave me the ick oh, he
did he did?
he did remember you've seen um,uh, kristen bell's series.
That was so good.
Uh, this is not.
(12:51):
This is not for you orsomething.
This is with um, ed and brody.
Oh, oh, sort of podcast series,yes fuck what was?
Jordan (13:03):
oh, because, because, fuck.
I know what you're talking.
What the fuck is the title?
Fabienne (13:08):
I have no idea, but remember how she fights, tries
to fight this ick that she hasfor, like the hot you know,
rabbi, yes, I couldn't.
I couldn't get past it, forsomebody wants?
it.
Nobody wants this, that's it.
That's it, thank you.
I was like, oh no, oh no, hewas just too.
(13:29):
This is gonna make me soundreally bad, because apparently I
want to have like onlyunavailable, like emotionally
unavailable people around me,but he was too well.
No, actually he was actuallyemotionally unavailable pretty
much throughout the whole story,because there was also this
really weird third act, somewhatsort of breakup, which wasn't
(13:51):
actual yeah, actually a breakupbecause they were never together
, but there was such like aweird reason too yeah, it was
like a very short like.
Jordan (14:00):
You know how we were talking like last book there we
couldn't the clock, like theclimax was all over the place.
I felt like this climax waslike so short because they were
fine and it was still like 60pages left.
So you knew something was goingto happen quickly and it was
going to be resolved quickly,which I wasn't totally here for.
I think this one would havebeen a great one to be, just
(14:23):
from her point of view, becauseI think her, the way she like
didn't know what he wanted andhe wasn't very good about
talking about his feelings andthings like that.
I think if bk would have justhad this book from lucy's point
of view and then did like theepilogue from his point of view,
(14:45):
I think that would have been alot better and like cause
basically his point of viewcould have been from her point
of view and just explained like,especially like when he's like
talking about how he like had towhen he called his dad to
explain like I'm broken.
Like he could have like had awhen he called his dad to
(15:05):
explain like I'm broken.
Like he could have like had aconversation with her at like in
her point of view and been likeI needed to like fix myself
first.
So I think personally thiscould have been a lot better,
but I still thought it was cute.
Like I gave this one four stars, like I think this is still
like a cute story I'm happy Iread it right like I, I enjoyed
(15:28):
it.
I enjoyed it.
It was like a little bit of.
I think this would have takenme a lot longer to read if it
wasn't for the podcast, and Ithink I might have possibly like
switched to audio at some point.
Just, to like possibly but Ididn't, I read the whole thing.
(15:48):
I read the whole thing.
Fabienne (15:50):
I didn't applause, thank you well done, well done.
The thing.
Also, like with like aidencalling his dad, like we didn't
know throughout the entire story, we have never, like met his
dad.
We only had his mom on thephone for a few like lines.
So him basically pouring outhis heart to his dad, like how
(16:12):
he met Lucy and how he fell forher and how he's questioning
like the notion of love, likethe entire concept of it all,
I'm like I can't find my, Ican't place myself in that
moment when he was talking tohis dad, because we hadn't seen
his dad before.
Like there, there was noconnection there for the reader
to connect to, either aidan oryou know.
Like possibly like a dad inthat sense.
(16:35):
Um, also just the entire lack offamilial discussions.
I know that this is also like asingle mom book, trope-wise,
but there were so few scenesbetween her and Maya.
Was it Maya?
I think Maya is her daughter'sname, yeah, yeah, I'm like that
(16:56):
could have been a little bitmore.
Also, there were two scenes noteven two scenes, well, two
between Maya and Aiden, and thenall of a sudden he's like I
want your people to be my peopletoo, which I thought actually
was a great line.
I loved the adorable, but itcame also out of the blue.
Jordan (17:13):
Yeah, and it's not like they even talked about her, like
it wasn't like.
I have this daughter.
It was almost like she was justlike thrown into the mix.
I do agree with you there andlike I just like thrown into the
mix I do agree with you thereand like I feel like I love
Lucy's character.
Fabienne (17:30):
Like.
Jordan (17:30):
I loved her chapters.
I loved everything that shemade Lucy Like I love that she
was a mechanic, I like that shewas a single mom and she was a
young mom.
So then, she basically like thethe mechanic shop took her in
and like, let let's like work on.
Like I'm going to help you worklike this out, we'll teach you.
Like you're going to be a greatmom.
(17:51):
Like I loved that aspect of it.
Yeah, and I even liked herrelationship with her.
Like Grayson Like, yeah, likethe baby daddy, like however he
like worded it, like I likedtheir relationship and I even
liked that.
Yeah, like the baby daddy.
Fabienne (18:09):
Like however he like worded it, like I liked their
relationship and I even likedthat, like they had more
chemistry than she and Aiden.
Jordan (18:13):
To be really honest, that's like what didn't make any
sense to me.
And then I liked, yeah,especially like when he was like
standing up for her becauselike she was like being stood up
on these dates.
So I like liked everything thatLucy was, but I feel like Aiden
kind of fell flat for me in away uh, yeah, like it would come
(18:34):
to his chapters and I'd be like, oh, let's go back to Lucy's
chapters, like no, but therewere.
I, I agree like there weremoments that I'm like that was
really cute.
Fabienne (18:46):
There was definitely chemistry, but it was just
underdeveloped, I think.
Yeah, there was more like therewas like more tension.
Jordan (18:55):
Well, not even I think there was like less tension,
because I feel like it couldn'tbe dived into more, like I think
, if it was solely from onepoint of view.
I think yeah, she could havedived into like, like lucy,
feeling this attraction to aidenand it like building, but not
(19:16):
knowing that aiden there wasalso, just like so many guys,
because then, like even the guyat the shop, I'm like this is
really, is really random.
Oh yeah, like thrown in thereLike you know he's coming back
because this is fucking weird,and then all the other guys like
stand her up, like it's just.
It was a very odd premise.
I think like she should havegone on these dates instead of
(19:38):
like guys standing her up fairpoint, I actually agree like and
I can like, and even if some ofthem were like, okay, but there
was just like no magic, yeah,and then at the end to be like
there's, there isn't magic, Iwas like what did you like read
(19:59):
that part where she was like, ohyeah, no, she's like I was just
looking for magic as an excuseto not settle for anything less.
Fabienne (20:06):
That's basically what it comes down to, like honey,
the magic part that you said inthe beginning.
That's correct.
Jordan (20:13):
You have to look for the magic Don't scramble back
please.
Exactly.
I was like you even talk abouthow, or even Aiden's talked
about how.
You are the magic and I'm likethere is magic.
What are you talking about?
What are you doing?
Fabienne (20:31):
He was trying to unscramble her scrambled eggs.
Jordan (20:34):
Yeah, and even Grayson was like don't fit yourself into
a box to fit Aiden.
I was like some of it didn'ttotally connect.
I think, though.
I think this one would havebeen better for us if we read
this first and then Deep End,though, and I think so, I think
we would have liked this onemore, and then I think we would
(20:56):
have even loved Deep End more.
Fabienne (20:58):
Better.
Yeah Well, that's the crux ofyou know doing buddy reads and
you know reading authors that Ihaven't read before and that you
may or may not have read beforeeither.
It's a gamble, honey.
It's a gamble, this buddy readlife.
Jordan (21:14):
It is, but I still think it was cute.
Like again, I still overallenjoyed it.
I mean, like I said, it's avery lighthearted type of
romance and I think if you'reinto that and I guess.
I'm into it actually too,because I really did enjoy it,
(21:34):
but I didn't give it any morestars than three and a half.
Fabienne (21:37):
Okay, fair, I was just going to ask you what your star
rating was oh three and a half3.5.
I like it.
I think the main, like thebiggest issue that I book is
like the chemistry beingunderdeveloped, it not being a
(21:59):
single perspective narrativelike from Lucy's.
There's too few scenes betweenher and Maya for it to be like a
single mom trope like book.
Also, I think just the overallrelationships between or like
among all the characters is alittle bit underdeveloped.
I think if the focus would havebeen there and then on Lucy
actually going on set dates andthen herself like finding out
(22:19):
for herself that you know, aidenis possibly maybe the guy for
her, and then I think that wouldhave been that would have made
this book a little bit better ifnot more.
Jordan (22:30):
I, I agree, and because, like, going back to Maya, it
almost seemed like Maya was thislike roommate of hers, like
Lucy never took her to school,never picked her up from school,
she never did any of the thingsthat like a mom would do, so it
was almost like I.
That's why I almost wonder, Iactually I wonder if this story
was different at one point inthe sense of like maybe Maya was
(22:55):
a roommate and Grayson, andlike like Mateo, were like the
next door neighbors, but Graysonwas her ex, but they were like
really good friends.
And then either an editor orsomebody told her like you
should have Maya be the daughterinstead of a roommate, because,
you're right, it Maya almostlike doesn't fit as a kid and
(23:19):
the way she's like talking tolike it was odd.
As for like an 11, an 1112-year-old.
Fabienne (23:26):
Uh-huh.
Jordan (23:27):
Like most of them are like ew cooties and she was like
did you bang?
She didn't say it like that,but it was like some euphemism
for banging and I was like whywould a 12-year-old wouldn't
think that a 12 year old wouldbe like eww cooties?
Fabienne (23:48):
I'm not speaking for all 12 year olds here, but like
well, definitely Gen Z 12 yearolds, apparently not millennials
12 year olds, cause, withpigtails I never know I can get
what's.
The difference is so huge.
Oh my goodness.
Yes, that is true, but I amwait, wait.
(24:16):
I have to ask because now mybrain is just like going off
like this sidetrack.
When you were 12, did you alsolike perform for your friends,
like when you were doing likekaraoke and then you would
choreograph, or how do you?
Jordan (24:28):
say, like dance, and then just perform yeah and then.
Fabienne (24:31):
Oh, my goodness, do people still do?
Jordan (24:33):
that is that no, I think it ended with us.
Fabienne (24:37):
It ended with us oh, my goodness, oh yeah, oh, no
wait, they post about it now ontiktok.
That's, that's the difference.
Jordan (24:44):
That's the difference, and they make money yeah, that's
the difference and they lookway better like the 12 and like
15 year olds.
Fabienne (24:52):
Honey, they have like a 50 step like skincare routine
yeah, just like, and I wasslather on like an entire jar of
nivia and I'd be I'd be good togo, yeah.
Yeah, good times, good times.
Jordan (25:07):
Fucking great times.
It's fine, it's fine, it'stotally fine.
Fabienne (25:12):
I'm sorry, I cut you off before we went on this side
quest, sorry.
What do you want to say?
Yeah, sorry.
What do you want to say, babe?
I don't know what was I sayingI don't know something about the
side characters.
I heard like gr, so maybegrayson, maybe mateo, maybe a
(25:36):
possible thought.
Who do you?
Jordan (25:38):
think is going to be like the next book we are still
on the same wavelength.
Fabienne (25:43):
Um, I think it's gonna be jackson unfortunately.
Wait, why do you sayunfortunately?
Because I think he's like suchlike a goofy, not likable type
of person.
He's like too cringy and Ican't.
Jordan (25:57):
I can't do cringy middleman characters the thing
is is like what's hot about theletter?
So I'm like why?
But I feel like, unless delilahI think it's delilah it might
not be oh yeah, there was, yeah,no, no, no, it was.
She was mentioned a coupletimes like unless, like she's
(26:21):
fucking amazing new york citycity.
But I think, yeah, I kind ofagree, like I think His book
would need to be very funny andI don't want to learn Anything
about weather.
Fabienne (26:37):
No.
Jordan (26:38):
I don't need to know.
Fabienne (26:38):
About tornadoes or what storms or you know, lava.
Jordan (26:43):
Lava.
Fabienne (26:46):
He was talking about Vol, about volcanoes, right at
one point.
Jordan (26:49):
Yeah, and they live in baltimore or maryland and
there's no volcanoes.
Yeah, so that means that youcan't talk about volcanoes ever,
apparently nope, but so do youthink you would pick up the next
book, or do you think you wouldlike?
Fabienne (27:06):
Well, I would definitely give it a try,
because I did Again, apart fromall the things that I you know.
Jordan (27:13):
That I had.
Fabienne (27:16):
I did like the writing style.
Ok, I like the formatting.
I really I don't think that thenext book is going to have like
the same actual formatting asthis one, because I'm not sure.
Wait, jackson doesn't have itsown.
Jordan (27:30):
Yeah, he's yeah, but it's different, like because but
I do, I agree, like I loved thelike random, like clearly this
is like when they're recordingand then who's like talking.
Of course, this is whenJackson's talking about freezing
rain.
That's the one I pulled up andvery interesting I, so I loved
this.
Yeah, that was cute, that wascute, that was cute oh, I'm
(27:56):
sorry that was a burp oh, let itout, let it out oh well, I'll,
I shall not, you'd be afraid.
Fabienne (28:05):
Um, I wanted to say something else too About this
book.
Why am I so?
Jordan (28:22):
Forgetful today.
Okay, it's like late.
Fabienne (28:24):
I'm sorry.
No, no, no it's still in themiddle eight o'clock.
This doesn't matter.
I do really.
I do well at eight apparentlyonly just not today honestly, I
saw someone like ask um in thegroup chat this um earlier today
, like he was gonna meet us likeat the at like this pop quiz
(28:44):
thing today for sorry, veryrandom anecdote and like oh, how
late is that?
Oh, you know, 10, 30, like atnight or like in the morning.
Jordan (28:58):
I think it's a little too late for me I'd rather not.
Fabienne (29:02):
I'd rather not.
Um, but'd rather not.
But no, I don't know what.
Wait, oh no, I thought.
I thought I remember what Iwanted to say, what my good
thing was this week, but alsonot.
Oh my goodness, I really havelike Swiss cheese for a brain.
I do apologize for that.
Jordan (29:19):
Okay, it happens to the best of us.
Fabienne (29:21):
Yeah, I do now.
Oh no, no wait.
I do now.
Oh no, no wait, I do know, I doknow, I do know.
Tell me, oh my God, tell me.
The new Suzanne Collins book isout today.
Oh my God, I'm so excited.
That was my good week.
I bought it.
Jordan (29:37):
Oh, I'm so jealous.
Fuck, maybe I'm going to go getit after this.
Honestly, you should well, I'min a sweatsuit, I'm in taylor
swift's sweatsuit.
Fabienne (29:50):
But is that your pete?
Oh, no, wait, peaches.
Yes, no sweatshirt but it'sonly like three my time yeah,
you have the rest of the entireday of you ahead of you.
Is it love you?
Is it crescent?
Jordan (30:04):
I'm sorry, I was looking at your necklace actually this
is what I got when I wasvisiting, you remember, in
Utrecht yes, yes, yeah, thereally cute, the really cutesy
city with also the canals wherewe were sitting, like down
(30:27):
canals sideways.
Fabienne (30:29):
Just say yes, just nod and say yes, please, okay,
fantastic, it was good of you,honey, fantastic, yeah, thanks,
you're most welcome.
Jordan (30:41):
But I am so excited I want to read that.
Should we buddy read that one?
Do we buddy read that one, ordo we just no, no, no um?
Fabienne (30:51):
wait, how about we read it separately and then, if
we have finished it?
Then we do it yeah how does abuddy read wait?
I want to look separately whatI wanted to look up like the
definition for a buddy read.
Wait, I want to look.
Can we read it separately?
What I wanted to look up thedefinition for a buddy read,
(31:12):
read stories separately and thendiscuss it afterwards.
So basically a buddy read.
Jordan (31:17):
But without it being like no pressure, like you don't
need to read it Exactly yeah,exactly.
Exactly, I didn't realize.
Okay, a buddy read involves twoor more people agreeing to read
the same book and discuss ittogether, either during or after
reading, often offering a moresocial and engaging reading
experience.
So it doesn't say like okay, abuddy read is essentially a mini
(31:41):
book club where you and afriend or a group of friends
choose a book and read itsimultaneously, allowing for
shared discussions and reactions.
Still no separately.
Sorry, okay, I just had to likewait did you think of what you
wanted to say for first timecaller?
Fabienne (32:01):
no, no, that thought has long gone fair.
But but I would still recommendit because I, like the, I
really enjoy an author and anillustrator who, you know, put
so much effort in their booklike the cover, the format,
entire thing.
I loved it Would still actually, like I said, recommend it,
(32:23):
recommend it, but there weresome issues with this book, most
definitely, yes, I do actuallyreally, like I said, recommended
, recommended, but there weresome issues with this book?
Jordan (32:28):
Most definitely.
Yes, I do actually really likethe cover.
Like I'm excited to have it onmy bookshelf, like I think it's
so cute.
But I actually like all of hercovers.
Like I love all the covers tothe Lovelight series, like
Lovelight Farms In the WeedsMcSignal Business Casual, like
all of those covers are so cuteand so hopefully the next book
(32:48):
in this series is fucking cute,it better be.
Fabienne (32:50):
Well, I hope it's going to be like the same artist
I'd hope so too because I youknow how I don't really do well
with illustrated covers withlike cartoony people yeah, this
is, this is cute.
This is really cute.
I feel like this is a short one, as in like the episode.
(33:10):
I'm sorry.
Jordan (33:12):
I think it's because we didn't totally love the book but
we liked it, Like we recommendit and I'm assuming- everybody
liked it and did not love it.
Yeah, Three and a half fourstars, Like pretty solid, pretty
solid.
Hopefully everybody listeningto this like also liked it, or
something.
Fabienne (33:34):
Or something.
Thank you, baltimore, forlistening, and if you don't have
anything else to say as well,jordan, then I'd say good night.
Jordan (33:46):
Night, oh people, then I'd say good night.
Night, oh people.
Fabienne (33:49):
Thank you so much for listening.
Jordan (33:51):
And please don't forget to rate and review wherever you
can find us.
Fabienne (33:54):
So catch you next time .
Jordan (33:57):
Bye.
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