January 27, 2025 • 28 mins
BOOKCLUB TIME!!
In this episode, we dive headfirst into the provocative world of a Split or Swallow novel by Lindsay Straube (which is now named Kiss of the Basilisk), unraveling its themes of desire, identity, and erotic exploration through the lens of character dynamics and storytelling. The show emphasizes the importance of reading this daring novel without preconceived notions, allowing its raw and vivid narrative to unfold organically.
• Exploring why diving blind into a book enhances the reading experience
• Discussion of relationships framed as a love triangle and their emotional implications
• Critical examination of themes surrounding desire and personal agency
• Encouragement to re-evaluate erotic literature's role in contemporary storytelling
Come join ussss on the dark sssside!
Cover Art by: Fabienne and Jordan
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Jordan (00:07):
welcome to the bookish hour with jor and fab.
Fabienne (00:14):
Hello, hello it is always just like is she gonna be
here?
Is it gonna work?
Is it gonna work?
Are you there?
Jordan (00:21):
it's like a modern day seance I know, and I of course
like discord.
I thought it was already openfrom yesterday, but I guess I
must have closed it down, whichprobably is like for the best.
But I didn't realize it wasgonna take forever to open.
So I'm sitting here liketwiddling my thumbs just waiting
twiddling.
Fabienne (00:42):
Did you have to have like update, update, updates and
such or?
Jordan (00:47):
yeah, but for whatever.
And I don't know if thishappens to you, but sometimes
I'll open discord and it willsay like one update and then it
like goes away.
So I keep trying to hit likediscord and it just like won't
open for me.
But then if I just like wait itout and just kind of don't do
anything, all of a sudden it'slike verifying discord and then
will give me all the updates.
(01:07):
So it's like really weird, Ihave to like not do.
Okay, then it will work.
Fabienne (01:14):
It's very so basically , it's anybody's guess once you
click on discord.
Jordan (01:19):
Okay, exactly, it has a mind of its own fair, fair.
I saw your stories, by the way,today on instagram about the
editing process with like laurenoh my gosh, I'm like I had to
share it because I was just likefreaking out and I know I think
I've like talked to you aboutit before on the podcast, but I
didn't say specifically thatepisode.
(01:40):
But I feel like, since theywere finally released, I could
like share it.
Fabienne (01:45):
I don't know if share the secrets behind the scenes
and what not?
Jordan (01:49):
yeah right, but I don't know how Lauren felt about it,
so hopefully she didn't mind.
I mean, the episodes are live,fingers crossed.
Fabienne (01:58):
I mean that's, that's all that matters.
It's our life now you know it'sall done, so are you excited?
That's life, yes, yes, yeah, Ican't imagine yeah, because it
was just mostly so.
Jordan (02:14):
Half of it, no kidding just just half, just half, just
like this much.
Say one, say what, oh god,start over.
Say one, say one oh no, one'sgonna get that, okay, anyway
that is fine.
Fabienne (02:33):
That is fine, that is fine.
Um, I know that we always dolike a good week, bad, like bad
week or just like a positivething that's happened.
But do you maybe just like wantto dive in immediately, because
I, oh my god, yes, yes, I wantto dive in.
Jordan (02:48):
So you finished it, oh okay.
Fabienne (02:50):
So what are we talking about today, fav we are talking
about split or swallow by um Ionly know her lindsey stau stau
stupe.
Her Instagram handle is OxfordLemon, which I love.
Jordan (03:09):
By the way, amazing, agreed, I love that name.
Fabienne (03:14):
So do I what I also love with the book, and I did
not see that.
I did not see that coming.
No pun intended.
Jordan (03:22):
I completely agree.
I picked it up and I did notknow what I was getting myself
into.
Like I'm reading it and I'mlike what the fuck did I just
tell a fob to read with me?
I was like what is going on?
But like, mind you, I was intoit.
I'm like reading it and I couldnot put it down.
Fabienne (03:41):
I don't know, like, honestly, there is no plot.
I mean, there is a storylinestoryline.
There is like a plot line of,yes, but it is just mostly
banging and teaching anotherperson to bang and how to bang
and what ways, and I'm like wow,what a banger.
That is quite literally.
Jordan (04:00):
Um no, but I here for it right girl.
Fabienne (04:04):
Okay, wait, wait, wait , wait.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I justhave to get this out.
Yeah, yes, I am actually, foronce, so happy that you told me
just dive into this blindly,don't read the blurb, don't look
it up, just pick it up and ifit's like for you we can just
talk about it, and if you don'tlike it, then skip, skip it
completely.
But I'm so glad that you toldme, like not to read anything.
Jordan (04:27):
Well, so I think that's like the thing.
So the reason I said that toyou was because, about this book
, the first thing is I'm toldit's best to go into this book
with absolutely no knowledge ofits contents.
So that's why I told you.
And then even I think Lindsayhas said that there's no actual
blurb.
But if you like, of course,like I did a little research
(04:50):
afterwards, like on Amazon, andI guess it does label this as a
love triangle, which I didn'tlike.
I guess it is a love trianglebut, like, as I'm reading it,
I'm not reading it as a lovetriangle, if that makes sense.
Fabienne (05:04):
No, it makes sense, and neither did I.
Also, are we gonna like go intothe debate of whether it is
like okay, so hypothetically, ifthis actual love triangle in
like the original sense, like,say, twilight sense, you know,
like Jacob versus Edward, isthis the triangle, or is this
like a love corner, because theman in this triangle are not
(05:25):
going to go together?
You know what I'm trying to saylike it's just like two.
Jordan (05:30):
Did you read the challengers chapter?
Fabienne (05:33):
that was my.
I actually did not, so doesdoes it okay?
So maybe it does classify as atriangle I did not know, because
I read it.
I read it.
I'm sorry you go okay.
Jordan (05:43):
So I wouldn't necessarily say it's a love
triangle.
I think they just say lovetriangle in the sense of like,
when it's like one point andthen it's like it like almost
like an upside, upside downtriangle.
Fabienne (05:55):
Like a V.
Jordan (05:57):
Yeah, because I feel like the men don't typically go
together.
Men don't typically go together.
But the challengers chapter, isshe?
Uh?
Lindsey basically states in inthe end, like right before the
challenger scene, that this hasnothing to do with the book.
Like this is where I wouldplace it for an alternate ending
.
But it does not fit thestoryline at all.
(06:18):
But I'm kind of happy she gaveit to us and I'm not one that
likes a menage or a likethree-way.
I'm definitely more just liketwo people.
Fabienne (06:30):
I'm gonna be a type type of girl yeah but I was here
for the challengers scene.
Jordan (06:35):
But I don't know if that's also because I've seen
the challengers movie and I loveZendaya and I was like here for
that, or if it's just because Ilove this book so much and I
actually do like both of thecharacters like I liked.
Fabienne (06:51):
Theo and Caspin yeah yeah, I was.
It's so funny.
Well, not funny.
You say that because obviouslywe're talking about the book
here.
Like the first half of the book, I was like all the way Caspin.
But then all of a sudden, likeTheo started to grow on me and
I'm like, oh, he actually haslike a solid mind of his own.
He wants to go like, or likeagainst his father, he wants to
(07:16):
take the you know royalbloodline and take it all into
like a different directive orlike a different direction, I
should say.
And I'm like, oh, I actually OK, okay, I'm starting to like
this character.
He has like morals, he hasprinciples and he knows that the
entire, you know, almost like apageantry of sorts, like with
the um, well, it's basicallyjust like love island really,
(07:39):
it's just like a contestant orlike a contest of just like
who's the hottest girl here andwho's gonna marry the prince?
Um bachelor, that's.
Yes, that was actually the oneI was looking for.
As you can tell, I do notreally watch tv, you know.
I just know, know it all fromlike memes anyways, um, I
digress, um, but I I started, Iliked theo in the end better
(08:00):
than caspin I, oh my gosh.
Jordan (08:03):
Yes, because at one point I was thinking how she has
built this non-sexualrelationship with theo.
So I was like I'm actuallyrooting for her and theo over
caspin, just because caspin'srelationship with her seemed to
be mostly like sexual, becausehe's like teaching her how to
bang the prince.
And I was like, oh, at leastshe has this relationship over
(08:27):
like with the prince.
That's more than just sex.
But then I'm really happy itended the way it did with I.
My heart broke when she senttheo away to go find his like
love and I was like, no wait whydo you stay here?
Fabienne (08:43):
He has to stay here.
Jordan (08:45):
He has to be with you, but then she still ends up being
queen.
She's just queen of thebasculus Bass.
Fabienne (08:55):
The snakes, the snakes , yeah, the snakes.
Jordan (08:59):
Yeah, and I just can't believe.
I'm okay.
I'm always looking for a bookthat will keep me up at night.
Like that is my main goal.
I just want to be so obsessedwith the book that I can't go to
sleep because I you, I'mdefinitely a person that, like
wants to be in bed by like 9 pmand I'm usually like asleep by
(09:23):
like 9 30, but I'll read in bedbut, tend to like put put the
book down and then sleep.
I was up so late reading thisbook because I could not put it
down.
It's like she put crack in it orsomething no, but really yeah,
and it's because I it's just sointeresting because I feel like
we're definitely we've gottenaway from like the erotica which
(09:47):
I'm so glad is why we didn'tlook into this book, because I
think this would be classifiedas erotica for us, like, I know
we would classify it as that,but I think it's actually
classified as erotica and Ithink if we knew that we
wouldn't have dived into it.
No, probably not.
(10:12):
But I'm so cool, like, but soit's just so interesting that I
feel like this I mean it is, westill loved it and it is like
labeled as and I was like I'mlike she's like fucking his dad
and I'm like, yeah, get it girl.
I'm like, wait, she's likefucking his dad and I'm like,
yeah, get it girl.
I'm like wait, what am I doing?
Fabienne (10:29):
At one point I was like why am I cheering this on?
Why am I as a person enjoyingthis so much?
What is wrong with me as like ahuman being in this particular
scene, like with the dad beggingor like when there was this, I
think it was a consult orsomething.
Like with the dad begging orlike when there was this, I
think it was a consult orsomething Like when they were
talking about, they were like atthis, I guess, meeting room or
whatever, like down in thesnake's cavern or whatever.
(10:52):
And you know they were talkingabout her getting to crest like
the royalties, like the royalbloodline.
And then Caspian was like Idon't know, fingering her or
whatever.
Jordan (11:10):
And everyone just started having sex.
I'm'm like what is happening atthis table?
But I was there for it.
And then at the end, wherethey're like, oh, they want to
like kiss you or something, butit was like, kiss you down.
I was like.
I was like, and then like that,like the evil guy, like she was
so into him what he did to herand so like he was like, keep
doing it.
I, he was like, keep doing it.
I was like, oh my god, keepdoing it.
Fabienne (11:28):
It's just it was so hot.
Jordan (11:32):
So hot and I was like I'm here for it.
Fabienne (11:37):
Uh-huh.
I will honestly say I'm noteven afraid to admit it I think
I haven't felt like that hotmyself, reading like such a
smutty book in a long time.
It's so long.
I felt like, so flustered.
I felt just so like I need toget something else out of my
system as well.
I just need to.
Where's Jay?
Jordan (11:56):
Exactly.
Fabienne (12:01):
There were a couple times.
Nick wasn't even here and I waslike fuck, you know, right hand
read or just one hand read,whatever you know, it's uh
taking care of business, butreally, not really.
Jordan (12:14):
It was so good, yes, but it was one of those things that
I I agree with you like Ihaven't felt that in so long,
like no, it was so nice and youknow what actually was.
Fabienne (12:28):
I think the best part of it all was, regardless of
like what absurd this, like howabsurd the storyline was.
Apart from that, all it wasreally well written, like all
the sex scenes, like everything.
Like at one moment, at onepoint in the story I was like I
wonder, because I had like say,because I read this on my kinder
.
Yeah, so I could like see thepercentages of how much like was
(12:50):
left in the book and I couldsee that I had still, like, say,
37% left.
I'm like how many other like,how many more other ways are
there to describe sex and justlike keeping it interesting as
well?
But I don't know.
But Lindsay, you know shecracked the code, she did it.
Jordan (13:09):
It was wonderful Because I was too like I again like we
didn't know what was, we didn'tknow anything about this book.
So like when, when thingsstarted happening relatively
fast and like he's like watchingher, like I thought that was
hot.
But then I was like, Ooh, likethis is happening kind of fast,
I was like a little nervous thatI was going to, I was going to
(13:31):
lose interest.
So I'm glad I was like at thatpoint I was happy that we didn't
fully commit to this and it wasmore of if we finish it, great
if we don't okay to this.
And it was more of if we finishit, great if we don't okay.
But then it just likeeverything afterwards it was
just getting hotter and hotterand hotter and I was like, yeah,
I'm here for it I'm here for it.
(13:51):
Yeah, like wait the venom scenewith him, with casman, with.
Casman and her I was like you,give her your venom.
Fabienne (14:03):
Just like literally everything, yep Getting, yep
Might want to read it again.
If I'm just like in a mood, ifyou get what I'm saying, yeah, I
get it Like, did you write anyother books?
Because I might want to pick itup.
Jordan (14:17):
Okay.
So what I've heard is so thisone okay, so multiple things.
So I heard that she actuallyreleased this chapter by chapter
on her website.
Okay, so you were followingalong, which kind of made sense
to me as I'm reading it, becauseI that was, I knew that going
(14:39):
into it.
So if you think about it, like,each chapter was relatively
long, it was like 20 to 40minutes for each chapter, but it
makes sense.
So she wrote a long chapter,then would publish it on on her
website so people could likeread along, and then, once I
think it was fully done, shemade it into a book, which I
feel like because I don't knowif you could tell, but in some
(14:59):
parts she kind of would almostlike not recap, but she would
say something that like wouldalmost confirm, like the
previous chapter, whether it waslike, let's say, like Theo got
rid of a girl.
She would say in the nextchapter, like oh, theo got rid
of that girl.
But it would say in the nextchapter, like, oh, theo got rid
(15:19):
of that girl, but it didn'tdisrupt anything but it was
almost at some points you couldtell that she was recapping, but
I think it was because she wasreleasing it chapter by chapter.
So she was almost giving youlike a recap of what you
might've forgotten.
Fabienne (15:38):
I didn't even notice.
Jordan (15:39):
So it goes to show like how not disruptive it was
actually exactly, but I onlyknew that because when I posted
about it, somebody said that tome that they were act, they read
it when they were reading it,when she was releasing it
chapter by chapter.
But so I bought this cover.
Okay, so everybody was talkingabout this book and everybody
was showing this book.
So I'm like I love that coverit.
Fabienne (15:59):
Okay, so everybody was talking about this book and
everybody was showing this bookso I'm like I need this book.
I love that cover.
It feels like so classy.
It feels like dark academia.
I don't know why.
Jordan (16:06):
I do have to say if you want this cover, I would get it
now.
Yeah it's going to betraditionally published.
So I think Bloom picked it up.
Or Sourcebooks no, bloom, bloom.
Okay, bloom picked it up.
Or source books no, bloom bloom, which is source book, whatever
(16:28):
.
Um, but it is.
It's getting a new title, soit's like kiss from the
basculate, basculate, kiss fromthe snake.
And then it has like a newcover.
But I didn't fully know thatuntil I like was re after I read
it, because then I was likeresearching it, because I didn't
want to be spoiled for anythingand I have to, not gonna lie, I
(16:50):
like this title and this cover.
But I think that's mostlybecause for the longest time I
actually thought it was spit orswallow.
So now I'm just like attachedto this title.
Fabienne (17:02):
Yeah, we're just gonna go with spit or swallow.
It actually makes way moresense.
Wait, question Were you likelooking for?
Whenever, like whenever I reada book, I either like
subconsciously or very likeconsciously I search for the
moment where the time comes backin the story, or just like a
little snippet, like you know,like um, yes, that makes sense
(17:25):
for one another.
But there were so manyinstances in this book where it
was like split, uh multiple likeuh personalities, because she
has like a split personality inthe sense of like her being
spoiled Well, you know, we'retalking about the book anyways
like being half like snake, halfhuman, and then like with the
swallow and then like witheverything swallow the entire
(17:47):
societal.
Can you say that again?
Jordan (17:50):
I cut you off.
Fabienne (17:52):
Where did it cut me off the differences between?
Jordan (17:57):
Once you looked away, it cut off, so we're.
Fabienne (18:02):
Oh, yeah, that's a great.
Yeah, okay, just say it again.
Okay, just one more time.
No, because of the split isbasically her like with her,
like split personalities, in asense of you know her being
happy, and then also with thesplitting between am I going to
choose like Theo or am I goingto choose Caspin?
(18:24):
Like she's split between twodecisions and also um with like
the swallow part, like what youjust said, like with the venom,
um that he gave her and then herhaving to follow everything
like society is throwing againsther, you know, like being the
female having to perform, likesuch, you know, sexual acts and
I don't know.
I it just came back everysingle chapter and I kind of
(18:45):
like that.
But it also now makes sense, asI'm saying this, because you
said that she published allthese chapters one by one.
So it makes sense that everysingle chapter has like a little
you know, nod to the title in away.
Jordan (19:01):
No, it does.
Yeah, I didn't even think ofthat, but like that makes sense.
Fabienne (19:05):
But this title is so much better than the new one
from the tradition?
I don't.
Jordan (19:09):
I don't know why they.
Well, I guess I kind of do knowwhy, because maybe people like
me also think it's Spit orSwallow and that's a very
intense title, but it made mepick it up.
But maybe they don't want thatin bookstores.
But anyways, I think this isgoing to be book one and I think
there's going to be more books.
But I don't know if it willstill be following her or if
(19:33):
it's going to be more books.
But I don't know if it willstill be following her or if
it's going to be following likea different character because,
like now, there's no more prints, so no more like teaching to
bang.
But maybe I don't even know whatso I'm very curious to see,
like, what comes next.
But I think the re-release willbe like well, clearly it's
going to be sometime next year.
I just don't.
Fabienne (19:52):
I don't know when oh okay, you don't have to date
like a top of your head anddon't get me wrong I do like the
.
Jordan (20:00):
I know I'm sorry, I do like this cover, but I have to
say the new cover is actuallyreally cool.
I just wish you could have donethe same title.
But I get, get it.
But the other cover is likevery.
Fabienne (20:13):
It looks very like fantastical.
Yes, let me see if I can findit real quick, oxford Lemon.
Jordan (20:22):
It's like a pretty cool cover.
Fabienne (20:25):
Oh yeah yeah, it's giving like Sierra Simone for
some reason.
Jordan (20:31):
Oh okay, I didn't think of that.
Fabienne (20:34):
You can't see it, oh, I just.
No, I can't bend my wrist inthis way.
It's unnatural, but I do likeit, it's okay.
You like this, it's okay, Ilike, yes, I like the goblet
with the basilisk better thanthis.
Jordan (20:55):
But it looks like a little garden snake.
Fabienne (20:57):
That is true.
Jordan (20:59):
Like, did you Actually?
Fabienne (21:02):
it looks like the Garden of Eden, and then with
Eve with the apple and the snake.
I think that is the reference.
Jordan (21:12):
Oh, actually that makes sense, have you?
Okay, sorry, coming back to me,have you seen that one YouTube
video?
It was like it went very viral,like when I was in high school.
But the oh, it cuts me off.
But the I'm a snake, I'm aslithery snake, I'm going into
(21:33):
your garden or whatever was thisa youtube video or was this a
vine?
Fabienne (21:39):
it was youtube oh no, then I do not recall, I, I don't
, I don't know this one.
Jordan (21:44):
I do apologize I don't know how many people like, so
I'm gonna have to send you theyoutube, because it's freaking
hilarious yes, please, but it'slike this, it's this guy like
pretending to be a snake.
So like I finished this bookand I was like I need that
YouTube video.
So like that's the sound fromthat reel that I did and I was
laughing.
Fabienne (22:04):
Oh, it makes sense, okay, yes, yeah, we need.
We need to use that for, likethe teaser for this episode.
I feel like that's very fitting.
Jordan (22:14):
Yes, yeah.
Fabienne (22:17):
Yes, I bestow that task upon you, so good luck.
Jordan (22:23):
But then do Thanks.
Fabienne (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, you take that sip, honey.
Jordan (22:32):
I will, but I honestly cannot wait for more.
Fabienne (22:36):
I mean the, because I have like her Instagram page
here.
What you said before, like Ithink it's going to be made into
a multiple, you know bookseries, it does say that this
book, like the re-release, isgoing to be a split or swallow
novel.
So there's going to be a splitor swallow novel.
So there's going to be multiple.
That's for sure.
Yeah, you're right yeah, buddy Iam really, really curious about
(23:02):
a potential second book thatlike who's gonna like, who is
that gonna follow?
Like whatever the heck his namewas, dick was basilisk.
Now also, how did you picturethose basilisks?
How did you picture their anat?
Jordan (23:14):
like anatomy, like when they're actually snakes yeah,
I'm like how do you beg?
Fabienne (23:20):
do you beg with your tail?
Is that like your penis?
Jordan (23:24):
I have no idea, because in my mind, this is too deep was
like are you guys just thinkingabout it?
Like is this like not actuallyreal?
Like are you just like mentallybanging right now Because I was
thinking the same thing?
Or then I was picturing thoselittle dinosaur arms this is
(23:48):
what they're doing and Icouldn't do that because I think
I'm supposed to be picturingvery, very scary snakes, and now
I'm just picturing a green very, very scary snakes.
Sorry, this is just ridiculousbut that I kid you not.
That was what I was thinkingabout when they like transformed
(24:11):
and it still did it for you.
Fabienne (24:13):
Huh the t-rex arms they really did so.
They really did.
Oh, my goodness, hey, is thisnow like a bridge that has been
like, or like a gap?
Wait, a gap that has beenbridged, yes, that's one for us
to start reading monsterromances.
Or is that like one step toofar?
(24:33):
Still, I wasn't have nointention of reading it next
immediately, I'm just like youknow it's it's.
It's in the the on the horizon,on the far horizon.
Jordan (24:46):
Well, I wasn't thinking that, but I was thinking like am
I really into shifters now?
And I'm into snake shifters?
Fabienne (24:59):
okay, so technically, since we read like a snake
romance, just just just for thesake of like argument, um, are
we considered, or is this likeconsidered a furry?
because I am like what the fuckis a furry isn't it like a
fetish, like when you want tohave like sex with something
that has hair as in?
Like you know, dress someone upas like a cat or like a dog or
(25:23):
the bunny whatever, but it haslike hair, so it?
So I wonder, like, if you'reinto snakes, is that like
considered, like having a furrykink or whatever?
I'm asking the real questionshere, jory, because nobody else
is.
I'm traumatized.
(25:44):
Yeah, I get that.
Yeah, but apparently that's areal thing.
I started reading quick reading, quick side note.
I started reading way, way, wayback by Jesse Hall.
Greenlight, I think, is thebook.
Jordan (26:00):
I haven't read it.
Fabienne (26:01):
It's actually it starts off pretty strong, like
in a good sense, like story-wise, like plot-wise, character-wise
, you name it.
Jordan (26:08):
Oh, did you like it?
Fabienne (26:09):
I did like it.
I said no, no, no, hey, it's onhold, it's not a dnf, it's just
like it wasn't.
It was like for now.
It was a not right now type ofsituation, so it's, you know,
like it's on my candle.
So whenever I want to, like youknow, pick it up where I left
off, I can.
But this one character had likea thing for fucking like
another person who was dressedup as, like you know, a furry.
(26:32):
So I was just wondering now,that's where it came from.
Jordan (26:36):
I get it now.
Fabienne (26:36):
Yeah, yeah.
So you know, the question'sbeen lingering in my head for
quite some time and I just hadto ask but no answer.
So I'm not the wiser.
So yeah, no furries but snakes.
Anyways, absurd book, loved itcompletely, completely obsessed.
Jordan (27:01):
Oh yeah, highly recommend.
Completely obsessed.
This is my new personality.
I am a snake now, just kidding.
Fabienne (27:08):
Kind of.
Actually, I couldn't have endedon a stronger note.
Well, technically, vocally, Icould have, but I would not.
Sorry, no, sorry, is that toomuch?
Should I edit that one out?
Should just leave it in.
I'll leave it in.
I'll leave it in.
Do do not worry.
Um, I okay.
This is going to be reallyshort, I think I.
(27:29):
I have no idea I can, just Ican ramble more about the book,
I know, I think that's perfect.
Jordan (27:35):
I say we ended there.
Um, hopefully you all enjoyedthis episode and let us know if
you did or didn't, and then letus know your thoughts on spit or
swallow, split or swallow splitno, no, spit.
Fabienne (27:47):
We're just gonna go with spit or swallow.
Split no, no spit.
We're just going to go withspit or swallow.
Jordan (27:51):
And then yeah.
Fabienne (27:54):
And Lindsay, if you listened to this episode.
Jordan (27:56):
We're so sorry about messing up your name and the
title.
Fabienne (28:01):
No story Because snakes get it.
Yeah, snakes.
Sorry, Wow, I am afive-year-old.
Thank you so much for listening.
Jordan (28:11):
And please don't forget to rate and review wherever you
can find us.
Fabienne (28:15):
So catch you next time .
Jordan (28:16):
Bye.
welcome to the bookish hour with jor and fab.
Fabienne (00:14):
Hello, hello it is always just like is she gonna be
here?
Is it gonna work?
Is it gonna work?
Are you there?
Jordan (00:21):
it's like a modern day seance I know, and I of course
like discord.
I thought it was already openfrom yesterday, but I guess I
must have closed it down, whichprobably is like for the best.
But I didn't realize it wasgonna take forever to open.
So I'm sitting here liketwiddling my thumbs just waiting
twiddling.
Fabienne (00:42):
Did you have to have like update, update, updates and
such or?
Jordan (00:47):
yeah, but for whatever.
And I don't know if thishappens to you, but sometimes
I'll open discord and it willsay like one update and then it
like goes away.
So I keep trying to hit likediscord and it just like won't
open for me.
But then if I just like wait itout and just kind of don't do
anything, all of a sudden it'slike verifying discord and then
will give me all the updates.
(01:07):
So it's like really weird, Ihave to like not do.
Okay, then it will work.
Fabienne (01:14):
It's very so basically , it's anybody's guess once you
click on discord.
Jordan (01:19):
Okay, exactly, it has a mind of its own fair, fair.
I saw your stories, by the way,today on instagram about the
editing process with like laurenoh my gosh, I'm like I had to
share it because I was just likefreaking out and I know I think
I've like talked to you aboutit before on the podcast, but I
didn't say specifically thatepisode.
(01:40):
But I feel like, since theywere finally released, I could
like share it.
Fabienne (01:45):
I don't know if share the secrets behind the scenes
and what not?
Jordan (01:49):
yeah right, but I don't know how Lauren felt about it,
so hopefully she didn't mind.
I mean, the episodes are live,fingers crossed.
Fabienne (01:58):
I mean that's, that's all that matters.
It's our life now you know it'sall done, so are you excited?
That's life, yes, yes, yeah, Ican't imagine yeah, because it
was just mostly so.
Jordan (02:14):
Half of it, no kidding just just half, just half, just
like this much.
Say one, say what, oh god,start over.
Say one, say one oh no, one'sgonna get that, okay, anyway
that is fine.
Fabienne (02:33):
That is fine, that is fine.
Um, I know that we always dolike a good week, bad, like bad
week or just like a positivething that's happened.
But do you maybe just like wantto dive in immediately, because
I, oh my god, yes, yes, I wantto dive in.
Jordan (02:48):
So you finished it, oh okay.
Fabienne (02:50):
So what are we talking about today, fav we are talking
about split or swallow by um Ionly know her lindsey stau stau
stupe.
Her Instagram handle is OxfordLemon, which I love.
Jordan (03:09):
By the way, amazing, agreed, I love that name.
Fabienne (03:14):
So do I what I also love with the book, and I did
not see that.
I did not see that coming.
No pun intended.
Jordan (03:22):
I completely agree.
I picked it up and I did notknow what I was getting myself
into.
Like I'm reading it and I'mlike what the fuck did I just
tell a fob to read with me?
I was like what is going on?
But like, mind you, I was intoit.
I'm like reading it and I couldnot put it down.
Fabienne (03:41):
I don't know, like, honestly, there is no plot.
I mean, there is a storylinestoryline.
There is like a plot line of,yes, but it is just mostly
banging and teaching anotherperson to bang and how to bang
and what ways, and I'm like wow,what a banger.
That is quite literally.
Jordan (04:00):
Um no, but I here for it right girl.
Fabienne (04:04):
Okay, wait, wait, wait , wait.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I justhave to get this out.
Yeah, yes, I am actually, foronce, so happy that you told me
just dive into this blindly,don't read the blurb, don't look
it up, just pick it up and ifit's like for you we can just
talk about it, and if you don'tlike it, then skip, skip it
completely.
But I'm so glad that you toldme, like not to read anything.
Jordan (04:27):
Well, so I think that's like the thing.
So the reason I said that toyou was because, about this book
, the first thing is I'm toldit's best to go into this book
with absolutely no knowledge ofits contents.
So that's why I told you.
And then even I think Lindsayhas said that there's no actual
blurb.
But if you like, of course,like I did a little research
(04:50):
afterwards, like on Amazon, andI guess it does label this as a
love triangle, which I didn'tlike.
I guess it is a love trianglebut, like, as I'm reading it,
I'm not reading it as a lovetriangle, if that makes sense.
Fabienne (05:04):
No, it makes sense, and neither did I.
Also, are we gonna like go intothe debate of whether it is
like okay, so hypothetically, ifthis actual love triangle in
like the original sense, like,say, twilight sense, you know,
like Jacob versus Edward, isthis the triangle, or is this
like a love corner, because theman in this triangle are not
(05:25):
going to go together?
You know what I'm trying to saylike it's just like two.
Jordan (05:30):
Did you read the challengers chapter?
Fabienne (05:33):
that was my.
I actually did not, so doesdoes it okay?
So maybe it does classify as atriangle I did not know, because
I read it.
I read it.
I'm sorry you go okay.
Jordan (05:43):
So I wouldn't necessarily say it's a love
triangle.
I think they just say lovetriangle in the sense of like,
when it's like one point andthen it's like it like almost
like an upside, upside downtriangle.
Fabienne (05:55):
Like a V.
Jordan (05:57):
Yeah, because I feel like the men don't typically go
together.
Men don't typically go together.
But the challengers chapter, isshe?
Uh?
Lindsey basically states in inthe end, like right before the
challenger scene, that this hasnothing to do with the book.
Like this is where I wouldplace it for an alternate ending
.
But it does not fit thestoryline at all.
(06:18):
But I'm kind of happy she gaveit to us and I'm not one that
likes a menage or a likethree-way.
I'm definitely more just liketwo people.
Fabienne (06:30):
I'm gonna be a type type of girl yeah but I was here
for the challengers scene.
Jordan (06:35):
But I don't know if that's also because I've seen
the challengers movie and I loveZendaya and I was like here for
that, or if it's just because Ilove this book so much and I
actually do like both of thecharacters like I liked.
Fabienne (06:51):
Theo and Caspin yeah yeah, I was.
It's so funny.
Well, not funny.
You say that because obviouslywe're talking about the book
here.
Like the first half of the book, I was like all the way Caspin.
But then all of a sudden, likeTheo started to grow on me and
I'm like, oh, he actually haslike a solid mind of his own.
He wants to go like, or likeagainst his father, he wants to
(07:16):
take the you know royalbloodline and take it all into
like a different directive orlike a different direction, I
should say.
And I'm like, oh, I actually OK, okay, I'm starting to like
this character.
He has like morals, he hasprinciples and he knows that the
entire, you know, almost like apageantry of sorts, like with
the um, well, it's basicallyjust like love island really,
(07:39):
it's just like a contestant orlike a contest of just like
who's the hottest girl here andwho's gonna marry the prince?
Um bachelor, that's.
Yes, that was actually the oneI was looking for.
As you can tell, I do notreally watch tv, you know.
I just know, know it all fromlike memes anyways, um, I
digress, um, but I I started, Iliked theo in the end better
(08:00):
than caspin I, oh my gosh.
Jordan (08:03):
Yes, because at one point I was thinking how she has
built this non-sexualrelationship with theo.
So I was like I'm actuallyrooting for her and theo over
caspin, just because caspin'srelationship with her seemed to
be mostly like sexual, becausehe's like teaching her how to
bang the prince.
And I was like, oh, at leastshe has this relationship over
(08:27):
like with the prince.
That's more than just sex.
But then I'm really happy itended the way it did with I.
My heart broke when she senttheo away to go find his like
love and I was like, no wait whydo you stay here?
Fabienne (08:43):
He has to stay here.
Jordan (08:45):
He has to be with you, but then she still ends up being
queen.
She's just queen of thebasculus Bass.
Fabienne (08:55):
The snakes, the snakes , yeah, the snakes.
Jordan (08:59):
Yeah, and I just can't believe.
I'm okay.
I'm always looking for a bookthat will keep me up at night.
Like that is my main goal.
I just want to be so obsessedwith the book that I can't go to
sleep because I you, I'mdefinitely a person that, like
wants to be in bed by like 9 pmand I'm usually like asleep by
(09:23):
like 9 30, but I'll read in bedbut, tend to like put put the
book down and then sleep.
I was up so late reading thisbook because I could not put it
down.
It's like she put crack in it orsomething no, but really yeah,
and it's because I it's just sointeresting because I feel like
we're definitely we've gottenaway from like the erotica which
(09:47):
I'm so glad is why we didn'tlook into this book, because I
think this would be classifiedas erotica for us, like, I know
we would classify it as that,but I think it's actually
classified as erotica and Ithink if we knew that we
wouldn't have dived into it.
No, probably not.
(10:12):
But I'm so cool, like, but soit's just so interesting that I
feel like this I mean it is, westill loved it and it is like
labeled as and I was like I'mlike she's like fucking his dad
and I'm like, yeah, get it girl.
I'm like, wait, she's likefucking his dad and I'm like,
yeah, get it girl.
I'm like wait, what am I doing?
Fabienne (10:29):
At one point I was like why am I cheering this on?
Why am I as a person enjoyingthis so much?
What is wrong with me as like ahuman being in this particular
scene, like with the dad beggingor like when there was this, I
think it was a consult orsomething.
Like with the dad begging orlike when there was this, I
think it was a consult orsomething Like when they were
talking about, they were like atthis, I guess, meeting room or
whatever, like down in thesnake's cavern or whatever.
(10:52):
And you know they were talkingabout her getting to crest like
the royalties, like the royalbloodline.
And then Caspian was like Idon't know, fingering her or
whatever.
Jordan (11:10):
And everyone just started having sex.
I'm'm like what is happening atthis table?
But I was there for it.
And then at the end, wherethey're like, oh, they want to
like kiss you or something, butit was like, kiss you down.
I was like.
I was like, and then like that,like the evil guy, like she was
so into him what he did to herand so like he was like, keep
doing it.
I, he was like, keep doing it.
I was like, oh my god, keepdoing it.
Fabienne (11:28):
It's just it was so hot.
Jordan (11:32):
So hot and I was like I'm here for it.
Fabienne (11:37):
Uh-huh.
I will honestly say I'm noteven afraid to admit it I think
I haven't felt like that hotmyself, reading like such a
smutty book in a long time.
It's so long.
I felt like, so flustered.
I felt just so like I need toget something else out of my
system as well.
I just need to.
Where's Jay?
Jordan (11:56):
Exactly.
Fabienne (12:01):
There were a couple times.
Nick wasn't even here and I waslike fuck, you know, right hand
read or just one hand read,whatever you know, it's uh
taking care of business, butreally, not really.
Jordan (12:14):
It was so good, yes, but it was one of those things that
I I agree with you like Ihaven't felt that in so long,
like no, it was so nice and youknow what actually was.
Fabienne (12:28):
I think the best part of it all was, regardless of
like what absurd this, like howabsurd the storyline was.
Apart from that, all it wasreally well written, like all
the sex scenes, like everything.
Like at one moment, at onepoint in the story I was like I
wonder, because I had like say,because I read this on my kinder
.
Yeah, so I could like see thepercentages of how much like was
(12:50):
left in the book and I couldsee that I had still, like, say,
37% left.
I'm like how many other like,how many more other ways are
there to describe sex and justlike keeping it interesting as
well?
But I don't know.
But Lindsay, you know shecracked the code, she did it.
Jordan (13:09):
It was wonderful Because I was too like I again like we
didn't know what was, we didn'tknow anything about this book.
So like when, when thingsstarted happening relatively
fast and like he's like watchingher, like I thought that was
hot.
But then I was like, Ooh, likethis is happening kind of fast,
I was like a little nervous thatI was going to, I was going to
(13:31):
lose interest.
So I'm glad I was like at thatpoint I was happy that we didn't
fully commit to this and it wasmore of if we finish it, great
if we don't okay to this.
And it was more of if we finishit, great if we don't okay.
But then it just likeeverything afterwards it was
just getting hotter and hotterand hotter and I was like, yeah,
I'm here for it I'm here for it.
(13:51):
Yeah, like wait the venom scenewith him, with casman, with.
Casman and her I was like you,give her your venom.
Fabienne (14:03):
Just like literally everything, yep Getting, yep
Might want to read it again.
If I'm just like in a mood, ifyou get what I'm saying, yeah, I
get it Like, did you write anyother books?
Because I might want to pick itup.
Jordan (14:17):
Okay.
So what I've heard is so thisone okay, so multiple things.
So I heard that she actuallyreleased this chapter by chapter
on her website.
Okay, so you were followingalong, which kind of made sense
to me as I'm reading it, becauseI that was, I knew that going
(14:39):
into it.
So if you think about it, like,each chapter was relatively
long, it was like 20 to 40minutes for each chapter, but it
makes sense.
So she wrote a long chapter,then would publish it on on her
website so people could likeread along, and then, once I
think it was fully done, shemade it into a book, which I
feel like because I don't knowif you could tell, but in some
(14:59):
parts she kind of would almostlike not recap, but she would
say something that like wouldalmost confirm, like the
previous chapter, whether it waslike, let's say, like Theo got
rid of a girl.
She would say in the nextchapter, like oh, theo got rid
of that girl.
But it would say in the nextchapter, like, oh, theo got rid
(15:19):
of that girl, but it didn'tdisrupt anything but it was
almost at some points you couldtell that she was recapping, but
I think it was because she wasreleasing it chapter by chapter.
So she was almost giving youlike a recap of what you
might've forgotten.
Fabienne (15:38):
I didn't even notice.
Jordan (15:39):
So it goes to show like how not disruptive it was
actually exactly, but I onlyknew that because when I posted
about it, somebody said that tome that they were act, they read
it when they were reading it,when she was releasing it
chapter by chapter.
But so I bought this cover.
Okay, so everybody was talkingabout this book and everybody
was showing this book.
So I'm like I love that coverit.
Fabienne (15:59):
Okay, so everybody was talking about this book and
everybody was showing this bookso I'm like I need this book.
I love that cover.
It feels like so classy.
It feels like dark academia.
I don't know why.
Jordan (16:06):
I do have to say if you want this cover, I would get it
now.
Yeah it's going to betraditionally published.
So I think Bloom picked it up.
Or Sourcebooks no, bloom, bloom.
Okay, bloom picked it up.
Or source books no, bloom bloom, which is source book, whatever
(16:28):
.
Um, but it is.
It's getting a new title, soit's like kiss from the
basculate, basculate, kiss fromthe snake.
And then it has like a newcover.
But I didn't fully know thatuntil I like was re after I read
it, because then I was likeresearching it, because I didn't
want to be spoiled for anythingand I have to, not gonna lie, I
(16:50):
like this title and this cover.
But I think that's mostlybecause for the longest time I
actually thought it was spit orswallow.
So now I'm just like attachedto this title.
Fabienne (17:02):
Yeah, we're just gonna go with spit or swallow.
It actually makes way moresense.
Wait, question Were you likelooking for?
Whenever, like whenever I reada book, I either like
subconsciously or very likeconsciously I search for the
moment where the time comes backin the story, or just like a
little snippet, like you know,like um, yes, that makes sense
(17:25):
for one another.
But there were so manyinstances in this book where it
was like split, uh multiple likeuh personalities, because she
has like a split personality inthe sense of like her being
spoiled Well, you know, we'retalking about the book anyways
like being half like snake, halfhuman, and then like with the
swallow and then like witheverything swallow the entire
(17:47):
societal.
Can you say that again?
Jordan (17:50):
I cut you off.
Fabienne (17:52):
Where did it cut me off the differences between?
Jordan (17:57):
Once you looked away, it cut off, so we're.
Fabienne (18:02):
Oh, yeah, that's a great.
Yeah, okay, just say it again.
Okay, just one more time.
No, because of the split isbasically her like with her,
like split personalities, in asense of you know her being
happy, and then also with thesplitting between am I going to
choose like Theo or am I goingto choose Caspin?
(18:24):
Like she's split between twodecisions and also um with like
the swallow part, like what youjust said, like with the venom,
um that he gave her and then herhaving to follow everything
like society is throwing againsther, you know, like being the
female having to perform, likesuch, you know, sexual acts and
I don't know.
I it just came back everysingle chapter and I kind of
(18:45):
like that.
But it also now makes sense, asI'm saying this, because you
said that she published allthese chapters one by one.
So it makes sense that everysingle chapter has like a little
you know, nod to the title in away.
Jordan (19:01):
No, it does.
Yeah, I didn't even think ofthat, but like that makes sense.
Fabienne (19:05):
But this title is so much better than the new one
from the tradition?
I don't.
Jordan (19:09):
I don't know why they.
Well, I guess I kind of do knowwhy, because maybe people like
me also think it's Spit orSwallow and that's a very
intense title, but it made mepick it up.
But maybe they don't want thatin bookstores.
But anyways, I think this isgoing to be book one and I think
there's going to be more books.
But I don't know if it willstill be following her or if
(19:33):
it's going to be more books.
But I don't know if it willstill be following her or if
it's going to be following likea different character because,
like now, there's no more prints, so no more like teaching to
bang.
But maybe I don't even know whatso I'm very curious to see,
like, what comes next.
But I think the re-release willbe like well, clearly it's
going to be sometime next year.
I just don't.
Fabienne (19:52):
I don't know when oh okay, you don't have to date
like a top of your head anddon't get me wrong I do like the
.
Jordan (20:00):
I know I'm sorry, I do like this cover, but I have to
say the new cover is actuallyreally cool.
I just wish you could have donethe same title.
But I get, get it.
But the other cover is likevery.
Fabienne (20:13):
It looks very like fantastical.
Yes, let me see if I can findit real quick, oxford Lemon.
Jordan (20:22):
It's like a pretty cool cover.
Fabienne (20:25):
Oh yeah yeah, it's giving like Sierra Simone for
some reason.
Jordan (20:31):
Oh okay, I didn't think of that.
Fabienne (20:34):
You can't see it, oh, I just.
No, I can't bend my wrist inthis way.
It's unnatural, but I do likeit, it's okay.
You like this, it's okay, Ilike, yes, I like the goblet
with the basilisk better thanthis.
Jordan (20:55):
But it looks like a little garden snake.
Fabienne (20:57):
That is true.
Jordan (20:59):
Like, did you Actually?
Fabienne (21:02):
it looks like the Garden of Eden, and then with
Eve with the apple and the snake.
I think that is the reference.
Jordan (21:12):
Oh, actually that makes sense, have you?
Okay, sorry, coming back to me,have you seen that one YouTube
video?
It was like it went very viral,like when I was in high school.
But the oh, it cuts me off.
But the I'm a snake, I'm aslithery snake, I'm going into
(21:33):
your garden or whatever was thisa youtube video or was this a
vine?
Fabienne (21:39):
it was youtube oh no, then I do not recall, I, I don't
, I don't know this one.
Jordan (21:44):
I do apologize I don't know how many people like, so
I'm gonna have to send you theyoutube, because it's freaking
hilarious yes, please, but it'slike this, it's this guy like
pretending to be a snake.
So like I finished this bookand I was like I need that
YouTube video.
So like that's the sound fromthat reel that I did and I was
laughing.
Fabienne (22:04):
Oh, it makes sense, okay, yes, yeah, we need.
We need to use that for, likethe teaser for this episode.
I feel like that's very fitting.
Jordan (22:14):
Yes, yeah.
Fabienne (22:17):
Yes, I bestow that task upon you, so good luck.
Jordan (22:23):
But then do Thanks.
Fabienne (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, you take that sip, honey.
Jordan (22:32):
I will, but I honestly cannot wait for more.
Fabienne (22:36):
I mean the, because I have like her Instagram page
here.
What you said before, like Ithink it's going to be made into
a multiple, you know bookseries, it does say that this
book, like the re-release, isgoing to be a split or swallow
novel.
So there's going to be a splitor swallow novel.
So there's going to be multiple.
That's for sure.
Yeah, you're right yeah, buddy Iam really, really curious about
(23:02):
a potential second book thatlike who's gonna like, who is
that gonna follow?
Like whatever the heck his namewas, dick was basilisk.
Now also, how did you picturethose basilisks?
How did you picture their anat?
Jordan (23:14):
like anatomy, like when they're actually snakes yeah,
I'm like how do you beg?
Fabienne (23:20):
do you beg with your tail?
Is that like your penis?
Jordan (23:24):
I have no idea, because in my mind, this is too deep was
like are you guys just thinkingabout it?
Like is this like not actuallyreal?
Like are you just like mentallybanging right now Because I was
thinking the same thing?
Or then I was picturing thoselittle dinosaur arms this is
(23:48):
what they're doing and Icouldn't do that because I think
I'm supposed to be picturingvery, very scary snakes, and now
I'm just picturing a green very, very scary snakes.
Sorry, this is just ridiculousbut that I kid you not.
That was what I was thinkingabout when they like transformed
(24:11):
and it still did it for you.
Fabienne (24:13):
Huh the t-rex arms they really did so.
They really did.
Oh, my goodness, hey, is thisnow like a bridge that has been
like, or like a gap?
Wait, a gap that has beenbridged, yes, that's one for us
to start reading monsterromances.
Or is that like one step toofar?
(24:33):
Still, I wasn't have nointention of reading it next
immediately, I'm just like youknow it's it's.
It's in the the on the horizon,on the far horizon.
Jordan (24:46):
Well, I wasn't thinking that, but I was thinking like am
I really into shifters now?
And I'm into snake shifters?
Fabienne (24:59):
okay, so technically, since we read like a snake
romance, just just just for thesake of like argument, um, are
we considered, or is this likeconsidered a furry?
because I am like what the fuckis a furry isn't it like a
fetish, like when you want tohave like sex with something
that has hair as in?
Like you know, dress someone upas like a cat or like a dog or
(25:23):
the bunny whatever, but it haslike hair, so it?
So I wonder, like, if you'reinto snakes, is that like
considered, like having a furrykink or whatever?
I'm asking the real questionshere, jory, because nobody else
is.
I'm traumatized.
(25:44):
Yeah, I get that.
Yeah, but apparently that's areal thing.
I started reading quick reading, quick side note.
I started reading way, way, wayback by Jesse Hall.
Greenlight, I think, is thebook.
Jordan (26:00):
I haven't read it.
Fabienne (26:01):
It's actually it starts off pretty strong, like
in a good sense, like story-wise, like plot-wise, character-wise
, you name it.
Jordan (26:08):
Oh, did you like it?
Fabienne (26:09):
I did like it.
I said no, no, no, hey, it's onhold, it's not a dnf, it's just
like it wasn't.
It was like for now.
It was a not right now type ofsituation, so it's, you know,
like it's on my candle.
So whenever I want to, like youknow, pick it up where I left
off, I can.
But this one character had likea thing for fucking like
another person who was dressedup as, like you know, a furry.
(26:32):
So I was just wondering now,that's where it came from.
Jordan (26:36):
I get it now.
Fabienne (26:36):
Yeah, yeah.
So you know, the question'sbeen lingering in my head for
quite some time and I just hadto ask but no answer.
So I'm not the wiser.
So yeah, no furries but snakes.
Anyways, absurd book, loved itcompletely, completely obsessed.
Jordan (27:01):
Oh yeah, highly recommend.
Completely obsessed.
This is my new personality.
I am a snake now, just kidding.
Fabienne (27:08):
Kind of.
Actually, I couldn't have endedon a stronger note.
Well, technically, vocally, Icould have, but I would not.
Sorry, no, sorry, is that toomuch?
Should I edit that one out?
Should just leave it in.
I'll leave it in.
I'll leave it in.
Do do not worry.
Um, I okay.
This is going to be reallyshort, I think I.
(27:29):
I have no idea I can, just Ican ramble more about the book,
I know, I think that's perfect.
Jordan (27:35):
I say we ended there.
Um, hopefully you all enjoyedthis episode and let us know if
you did or didn't, and then letus know your thoughts on spit or
swallow, split or swallow splitno, no, spit.
Fabienne (27:47):
We're just gonna go with spit or swallow.
Split no, no spit.
We're just going to go withspit or swallow.
Jordan (27:51):
And then yeah.
Fabienne (27:54):
And Lindsay, if you listened to this episode.
Jordan (27:56):
We're so sorry about messing up your name and the
title.
Fabienne (28:01):
No story Because snakes get it.
Yeah, snakes.
Sorry, Wow, I am afive-year-old.
Thank you so much for listening.
Jordan (28:11):
And please don't forget to rate and review wherever you
can find us.
Fabienne (28:15):
So catch you next time .
Jordan (28:16):
Bye.
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