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April 7, 2025 61 mins

ITS SEASON TWO BITCHES!!!!!

Our Literary Hills to Die On -- We begin with a clean slate as the hosts reveal they've officially shuttered their original podcast to fully focus on their current bookish journey. Exciting developments are on the horizon, including interest from a PR company that could bring author interviews to future episodes. 

The main conversation dives deep into our "literary hills to die on"—the books we consider absolute perfection and will defend against any criticism. From unanimous adoration for Sarah J. Maas's Throne of Glass series to passionate defenses of Madeline Miller's Circe, V.E. Schwab's The Invisible Life of Addy LaRue, and Donna Tartt's The Secret History, their selections span genres while revealing deeply personal connections to each story. These aren't just favorite books; they're the titles that have shaped their reading journeys, offered comfort during reading slumps, and occasionally moved them to tears.

The conversation weaves through fantasy, gothic romance, literary fiction, and nostalgic YA picks, highlighting how the most devoted readers often transcend genre boundaries in pursuit of exceptional storytelling. What emerges is a heartfelt testament to literature's power to define us, change us, and create a sanctuary we can return to again and again.

Have a favorite book you'd defend with your last breath? Share your literary hill to die on with us and don't forget to rate and review wherever you listen to podcasts!

Cover Art by: Fabienne and Jordan
Contact email: thebookishhourpod@gmail.com
Intro/Outro music: Season Two: Ramaramaray by Aiyo via Epidemic Sound Season One: Sweet Psycho via TikTok’s Offical Sound Studio on Capcut
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Jordan (00:08):
Welcome to the bookish hour with Jor and Fab.

Fabienne (00:11):
That's recording.
So I guess is it say recording,yeah, yeah.

Jordan (00:19):
It's even like counting.

Fabienne (00:22):
We are recording.

Jordan (00:24):
Oh my gosh, craig, because I can't see your face.
I know Craig is actually withyou, because my video is not on.
It's so sad.

Fabienne (00:37):
I'm at the bottom when Craig's usually at the bottom.
It's okay, it's okay.
You know, it's like, it's not.
It's not like hierarchical orsomething's.
It's don't.
Uh, don't focus too much likeon a pyramid here, honey.
It's, it's, it's okay, it's adownward pyramid.

Jordan (00:50):
This is not even making any sense.
This is the first episode ofseason two, though.
How, what?

Fabienne (00:55):
oh my god you know what I?
I actually forgot because I,because I'm stupid, um, but hey,
it's very much like on par, youknow, like with who we are as
people with podcasts, like everysingle time, every single new
season, we have had somethingnew technical difficulties is

(01:18):
what I wanted to say but yes,something new, something new too
technical difficulties, butsomething new too.

Jordan (01:25):
Also something new because I feel like which?
Something new, something newtoo.
Technical difficultiesSomething new too.
Also something new Because Ifeel like which.
Now too, I feel like I'm stilldoing a lot of hand things that
you just can't see, but likesmutty is no longer available.
So, like anybody listening tothis, if you go back and try to
listen to a Smutty episode, youcan't, you cannot.

(01:46):
It went bye-bye.
It actually went bye-bye a longtime ago, but when you listen,
to this.

Fabienne (01:54):
Yeah, I feel like it was a plan long in the making,
if that sort of like makes sense.

Jordan (02:12):
I mean, we've been talking about it, like for us in
this very moment, when we wererecording not too long ago, um,
but I am actually kind of happythat we have ditched the smutty
book like me too, likedefinitively, I feel like it.
It made so much progress in theyears we had it that I felt
like we shouldn't delete it, butthen I was getting kind of sick
of it still being there.
Yeah, if that makes sense withwhile having this one, so I'm

(02:33):
glad no, it does we were both onthe same page of just like
getting rid of it.

Fabienne (02:38):
Not that we did anything with it, but like it
still did its own thing yeah,but I mean no, it it definitely
does, because if you think aboutit like in the most basic sense
ever, it feels like it was oneof those things that were just
like stacking like on one ofthose back shelves.
With that, I feel like everysingle sentence that we are
going to say this episode is ifthat makes sense.

(02:59):
I hope that makes sense.
Am I being clear?
Yep, but I feel like this wasjust one of those old projects
that we started with and, youknow, it like kind of
skyrocketed in that sense.
See, there we go again, but wenever really went forward
forward with it.
I mean, obviously, like it tookus to where we are right now
with, like, the bookish hour andthe one tiny, miniscule podcast

(03:22):
that shall not be named.
Yeah, um, but you know, it'sbeen like collecting dust and I
feel like it didn't.
I feel like, okay, let me justput it like this, had we not
gotten rid of this money bookeventually, I would feel as if
it were just like one of thosedark clouds like in the
background, just still likelooming over what we are trying

(03:43):
to achieve right now with thispodcast.
Yeah, as like, um, you knowit's, I don't know, like a clean
slate type of thing, like it'scompletely erased this is the
podcast.

Jordan (03:54):
This is like the one.
Well, also too, like I kind oflike, if we knew what we were
doing in the beginning of Smuttyand like our sound was awesome,
like the quality was awesome,like compared to like what it is
now, I feel like I would havebeen fine with revamping Smutty
to the bookish hour, so theneverything would have been like

(04:16):
the same, like I think thatwould have been like the dream
goal of mine.
But I didn't like any of likeour first year's episodes and I
didn't like that they were stillthere and I didn't like the
quality of them.
But oh god no but we were stilllearning.
So it's like and that was likethe whole reason why we like
pushed a whole new podcast andlike this one's still like we're

(04:41):
still trying to grow it andlike bump it up there, which I
think it will in its own way andI think it, but I think it's
just going to take time.
Truly, we had smutty for likeover two years.
So it like makes sense and itwas it's doing better or did.

Fabienne (04:59):
I'm so sorry it's even worse for me now because I
already cut you off, as is whenI do see your face, and now it's
like trying to like gauge whenyou're stopping talk, like when
you stop talking, and I justwant to like interject, but I,
I'm horrible.
I I do apologize for that.
It's going to be worse thisepisode.
Um, but yeah, like you say,like that, the quality was just

(05:20):
not it.
Actually, if you think about it, it's kind of funny, though
that it was like still sopopular.
Yeah, because people like weredownloading like the episodes,
like left and right, and we justsaw that numbers, I don't know.
I just I don't want to say that, I don't want to say how
popular it was, what was not.

Jordan (05:36):
This is going to be really popular but oh yeah, this
one's going to be popular.
Sorry, but I also wonder too,because because like it just
shows downloads, it doesn't showlike full listens.
So people could have downloadedthe episode but then couldn't
handle our sound quality andthen stopped listening.
So I feel like that's why it'skind of like I don't know if

(06:00):
people actually ended uplistening to the episode just
because of like the sound knowif people actually ended up
listening to the episode justbecause of like the sound, but
I'm gonna pretend that they didjust for the sake of my own.
I like it, I like it.
But this one, we have seasontwo, which is very exciting.
Uh, what?
What is different for thisepisode?

Fabienne (06:19):
episode fab the soundtrack, if you can even call
it that.
I think you could the jingle,like the intro and the outro.
Well, people have not heard theoutro yet, but yes, the outro,
oh yeah, oh sorry what is new?
This episode?
The outro is also yes, then youare completely right, of course

(06:42):
, the um outro as well.
Um, I don't know.
I just woke up one day and Iwas like you know what, maybe
for like the second season, weneed something new and I feel
like we usually change somethingevery single season.
I think it was only like the bigchange, every, everything, like

(07:05):
every new season was season,was only like the jingle, like
only the intro and the outro.

Jordan (07:10):
No, well, so for Smiley, we had like for season two, we
changed our logo, we made adifferent logo.
Oh, that is true.

Fabienne (07:23):
Yeah, kind of forgot about that.
Actually, we went from thebeige why do we ever go with
that color, by the way To thebigger skull with the crown and
then the purplish backgroundyeah, so this one.

Jordan (07:39):
We still have the same logo, but we did change the tune
.

Fabienne (07:46):
the tune the tune but our tunes, they won't change.
We will still stay the same we.

Jordan (07:53):
I'm also super excited.
I know too like we have likeour vibe going.
But what's really cool is I hada pr company, which I'm not
going to name the name of the PRcompany, but they reached out
to me and they're like I'm like.

(08:13):
They were like I, you mentionedthat you have a podcast or
you're in the process ofcreating a podcast and you might
be open to author interviews,and so then they asked for like
a laundry list of things to likegive them as information for
the podcast.
They were like one of thethings was like give them as
information for the podcast.
But they were like one of thethings was like download numbers
and I was like yeah, I'm gonnaignore that one, unless you ask

(08:34):
again and then I'll give it toyou and hopefully our numbers
are better.
But they were, which was alsointeresting.
They asked do authors have topay to come on your podcast?
And I was like no, but I didmention that it's not a fast
turnaround, because I feel likeauthors are used to the
Instagram live interviews andthose can be really fast

(08:57):
turnarounds.
So I did say from when theinterview is scheduled, whatever
that scheduled date is, itcould be a month or two before
the actual release of it.
So but I'm very excited, so I'mhoping that means, like some
authors, like we'll reach out toour email and be like I want to
be interviewed.

Fabienne (09:17):
That's going to be so cool though, right, I want to
know that I want to know the vrcompany now.
Oh, I'll wait.
Oh yeah, great, I'll tell youafter great I just don't want to
like the PR company now.

Jordan (09:24):
Oh, I'll tell you after, yeah.

Fabienne (09:25):
Great, I'll tell you after Great.

Jordan (09:27):
I just don't want to like say them and then like get
in trouble.

Fabienne (09:31):
I don't think I'd get in trouble, but no, I get that
Also.
You got to stay humble.

Jordan (09:36):
you know we can brag behind the scenes To a degree,
but, like other, than that, yes,but like other than that, yes.

Fabienne (09:49):
Well, the brag was like a pr company reached out to
me.
So, yeah, exactly, exactlybragged.
Oh wait, I have something stuckin my eye, the fuck.
Oh no, this is not important.
This is not important.
You know what is important?
Um, oh no, I wanted to talkabout my, my house, but that
doesn't make sense, because ifthis releases, oh, oh, I get all
the dates like jumbled and likemixed.
Can I still talk about itthough?

(10:10):
Heck, yeah, wouldn't that beweird?

Jordan (10:12):
like when this comes out ?
No, I don't think so.
Talk about it, okay.

Fabienne (10:17):
Okay, well, in five days we get the keys to our new
place, in just five days, and Iam so excited, I'm so excited,
Girl, you have, oh, and this iswhat I want to want.
Wow, this is what I wanted totell you before, like, say, like
last time when we tried torecord, or when we actually did

(10:38):
record I don't know why I saidtried I have a new Instagram
account, solely.
It's good.
You know that one, uh, once ina blue moon account that I have
where I pretended that I was awriter and etc.
We shall forget about that very, very soon, like now, now

(11:00):
scratch from your memory.

Jordan (11:01):
You're not.
You're not writing your bookanymore oh no, no that, that.

Fabienne (11:07):
That was just one of those adhd like non.

Jordan (11:10):
But girl, you have to like medically honestly like I'm
still waiting for that book,like the pieces I've read were
so good and I'm like thank youwell.

Fabienne (11:21):
Well, you know, maybe maybe this is like a nice segue
into like that new account,though, because once we are
settled in, like you know, inthe new home, in the new place,
and I have like my entirelibrary slash podcast situation
going on and like my writingstation and whatnot, maybe,
maybe you know when I get boredor you know when I have nothing
to do, I'll just start typingaway on the keyboard again on my

(11:43):
laptop.
Who knows, I'm here for it, yep, but as of right now, that
account is semi-nonexistent.
That does not make any sense,but anyways, it kind of does,
because I refammed that account,I archived everything and I
renamed it.
Everyone is still following me,which I think is not fair to

(12:14):
those people because they thinkthey follow a certain account
which they are not anymore.
Um, but I'm going to use thataccount for potential.

Jordan (12:17):
And again I say potential.

Fabienne (12:18):
So, be be aware of that, um, videos of like,
exactly, of like the renovationsand, like you know, the house
sit up and get up and you know,like the process of everything.

Jordan (12:25):
No, you should totally do that.

Fabienne (12:28):
Uh right, I think it's gonna be fun and it's just
we're like shits and gigglesanyways yeah, no, actually.

Jordan (12:35):
Well, I'm not gonna say anything, I'll tell you after,
but I think you should totallydo that and like reels and stuff
.
I think that would be like.
I think a lot of people wouldbe interested in that.

Fabienne (12:44):
Right, and I think it's going to be just one of
those low threshold type ofvideos too, if that sort of
translates in the sense of whereit's not like high end editing
or like you know, nice fonts orjust nice I don't know filters,
it's just going to be as real asit can possibly be, like you
expect when you move into a newplace.
It's like it's going to be like100 perfect honey.

(13:07):
I have to tell you it is not.
You got to do some work.
You know we got to do right now.
We're going to do the kitchen,we're going to do the bathroom,
we're going to do like thehardwood floors.
Um, you're going to have topaint like all of the frames,
like the door frames, the windowframes and you name it and such
.
I don't know.
I don't want to say a hassle,but it's just going to be such
like a like a big project still,and I feel like it's just going
to be fun to just film thatlike a little snippets, just

(13:29):
very comically, because you know, I feel like I can do that
really well, heck yeah, wait,what's the name of the handle?
Fallow Moons F-A-L-L-O-O-N.
Fallow Moon or Moon, I think itF-A-double-O-double Foul moon
or moon.
I think it's singular.
Is it singular?
I think it's singular yeah it'ssingular.

Jordan (13:50):
I love it.
There's nothing here.
Turning a new leaf, aspiringhearth witch with a Nancy Meyers
lifestyle and a Gilmore Girlscharm.
Here for the simple joys.
I love that I'm showing you thescreen like you can fucking
joys.
I love that I'm showing you thescreen Like you can fucking see
it.

Fabienne (14:07):
I'm pretending that I'm seeing it.
I mean, I have it right heretoo.
I thought it was cute and likethe aspiring hearth which I was
like that's like such a stretch.
I don't pretend to be into thatshit, but I do like my crystals
, I do like the woo woo type of.
I just like the books.
I do, like you know, like thewoo-woo type of.
Like you know, I just like thebooks.
I don't know how to translatethat.

(14:28):
I can't see you, I don't knowwhat the fuck you're doing.

Jordan (14:31):
I already know the teaser for this episode is going
to be that Woo-woo.

Fabienne (14:41):
Jesus, I'm already obsessed.

Jordan (14:47):
So I'm appointing you that task, just so know, um, you
gotta search for it until yougive me the final episode so I
can make the teaser right away.
Oh my god, that's amazing.
Well, yeah, so because tiktokwent down for that like hot
second in the us, like uh whatwas that about?
and then came back like a toxicboyfriend um, but I think it's
red flag.

(15:07):
I'm like not even on tiktokthat much, but I use cap cut all
the fucking time and the likeparent company of tiktok also is
the parent company of cap cut.
So I lost cap cut and I waslike, no, oh yeah, but there's,
are you serious?

(15:27):
Yes, but it did come back.
But I actually downloaded thisnew um like vita v-i-t-a like
app, which is it looks.
It has like the same interfaceas cap cut, which was super easy
.
So, like when I was able tomake my reel it there was no

(15:47):
learning curve because it wasbasically like the same layout
as CapCut.
I don't know who owns this one,but watch it be the same.
Well, it can't be the samecompany, or else I wouldn't have
been able to download it whenCapCut was down.
But and now CapCut came back,which is nice in the sense that
everything that was saved inCapCut is still there.

(16:08):
But I'll probably use this newapp.
But I know I have like somereels that like pertain to this,
to the bookish hour and likeother things that would have
been like really sad if Icouldn't access them anymore,
but but I like it's not, itwouldn't be like the end of the

(16:29):
world.
But yeah, I don't know I wasgoing, it would just be really
fucking inconvenient.

Fabienne (16:35):
No, no, no, no, it was .
Oh wait, you started saying bythat tiktok just went like
offline for a hot second andcame back yeah, I saw someone
say that and I was like yes, yes, except.

Jordan (16:48):
I do I?
I like don't post much, or Iused to post what I posted on
Instagram on there, but then Ikind of stopped doing that.
But I have like five people Ifollow on there that I watch
their TikToks pretty regularly.
Five people Jordan, whoa people.

Fabienne (17:05):
Jordan.

Jordan (17:06):
Whoa, I know so many, but they're all like
organizational or like cleaningshit, so like nothing to do with
books, like I don't.

Fabienne (17:13):
I'm like it's a trick for the perfect housewife.

Jordan (17:16):
Right, except I, if I want to make enough money that I
can have a cleaning person cometo my house.

Fabienne (17:26):
That would be so Okay, weekend dream, weekend dream,
yep.

Jordan (17:31):
Okay, anyways, anything else about your house?

Fabienne (17:35):
Anything else about my house?

Jordan (17:37):
Well as of this moment.

Fabienne (17:39):
no, no, actually not, that was just it.
So I guess that's also like mygood week, sort of that.
We only have to wait like aslittle as five days.
That's so exciting.
And the new potential Instagramaccount, if I ever am going to
use it.
The intention is there, okay,and the intention is what
matters at this very moment.
I have yet to post obviously.
But you know, if I can get likea nice shot of us like us like

(18:02):
holding the key, I think thatwill make for like a nice first
post.

Jordan (18:06):
Oh, hell, yeah, I'm going to be waiting for it.
I'm going to be waiting.

Fabienne (18:13):
I'm really excited.
But other than that, hasanything happened to you this
week that was you know, apartfrom TikTok or apart from
whatever?

Jordan (18:23):
That was good, that was fun, noteworthy of sharing, my
mug cracked and it was myfavorite mug and I'm sad.

Fabienne (18:33):
Oh, I saw the London one.

Jordan (18:35):
Yeah, honestly, though, I had that mug for over 10 years
, so it lasted a very long time,but it was my favorite mug.
So when I poured my hot waterfor my tea in it, I was so sad,
like literally so sad staring atmy favorite mug cracked that
all the water had gotten to thepoint where it had leaked out

(18:58):
all over it and onto the floor,because I was like, instead of
cleaning it, I was just stoodthere so sad.
But it is like I am so sorryit's cracked Me too, me fucking
too, but it is cracked so youcouldn't put anything in it
anymore, but it's still onepiece.

(19:19):
So I'm going to probably try tolike just leave it on like my
bookshelf, so that way I stillhave it.
I just can't drink out of itanymore.

Fabienne (19:27):
Question oh, um answer .
Hopefully can't you just like,do that one.
What is like korean japanesetrick where you mend it with
like gold glue or like goldenglue?

Jordan (19:41):
oh, like that, I forgot.
It's like I know what you mean.
It's like that, like Korean.

Fabienne (19:47):
No, I don't know if it's Korean.
I think it is Japanese.

Jordan (19:51):
Japanese, like I forgot what it's called um.
Actually it was really sweet.
I texted Nick the cracked mugand I was so sad and he was like
I just bought porcelain andceramic glue so we'll see if we
can try to glue it back together, and I was like Wait, he just
happened to just like buy thator no, like he Because of the

(20:12):
photo, and I don't even mind,like I don't need to drink out
of it again.
So if we just paint clear overit, just to hold it together so
I can put it on the bookshelf,like that's all I want, I just
don't want to throw it away.

Fabienne (20:28):
I'll use it as for a lot, you know, I know exactly as
a bookmark, just like stack iton top of your open book.
This is where I am as abookmark holder.
Honestly, I use so many randomshit.
You know bookmarks, or like assbookmarks same, but honestly I
have.

Jordan (20:46):
I've gotten so many free bookmarks with things that I've
actually been using bookmarksokay, but I also use my kindle
to read, so I don't use saidbookmarks a lot oh, oh yeah,
like so, because then you canfind digitally and then you can
just swap it to like thepaperback.

Fabienne (21:03):
What is the most random?
Wait, okay, before we dive intothe actual purpose of this
episode.
What is the most random thingthat you've ever used for a
bookmark?

Jordan (21:17):
I don't know.
I think maybe a shoelace oncethat was still attached to a
shoe, because it was like theclosest thing and so I just
closed the book so I could, like, go pee or grab water or
something.

Fabienne (21:33):
I think that might have been.

Jordan (21:34):
Yeah, hmm, what about you?

Fabienne (21:40):
I think an empty phone case maybe oh that's a good one
.

Jordan (21:44):
It's a solid one.

Fabienne (21:47):
Quite literally.
Yeah, I'm not sure it mighthave felt like you used a sock
once or twice.

Jordan (21:53):
Okay, okay, or I'll use like part of a blanket if I'm
like, have a blanket covering meanything to really just hold my
place nowadays I just dockerthe pages.

Fabienne (22:07):
To be really honest with you, I do too.

Jordan (22:10):
To be completely honest, there's only like certain books
that, like I don't read from,so I wouldn't do it to those,
but like other than pristine,yeah, yeah, but other than that.

Fabienne (22:22):
Fuck that shit up.
Talking about pristine books, Ithought I found.
I found a segue.
I love it.
Um, um.
We are talking, or we are goingto try and talk, about our top
10 most favorite authors slashbooks.

Jordan (22:44):
I think Books Combined yeah, books Like you will not
take any criticism on these.
Books Like these are your top,top of the top, toppity, top
books.
It was actually a struggle forme to find 10, not gonna lie
like I think like I feel likethe first five were like good

(23:10):
pretty easy yeah yeah.
So maybe we could do like thefirst five as like these are
your ride or dies top 10, andthen the second five can be like
, yeah, I do like these and theyare like zero criticism, but
like not like the first five, orwe can keep it the same um well

(23:31):
, I I didn't necessarily likewrite them down in order, so
like my one is not like higherup the list in that sense than
my number 10 fair.
I didn't do that either, sowe'll just stick with the top 10
.

Fabienne (23:47):
I was just gonna do it on the fly yeah, no, no, we can
do it on a fly.
It's fine, I could pretend tobe do like, do it on a fly, I
like, I like.
You said like it is.
It was to come up with like 10actual book names.

Jordan (23:59):
It was so hard.

Fabienne (24:14):
I will say, though, that when I was filling out as
if it were a form, as I was likefilling out my own like top 10,
well, not top 10 am I just likewriting down this book just for
the sake of writing it down, oram I generally like I will like
lay my life down for this book,type of?

Jordan (24:29):
yeah, that's like yes, that's like kind of what I've, I
like meant yeah but then, like,looking at the like the last
two of mine, I would also lay mylife down for those two.
So, like I think it's kind oflike a mix.
Okay, like I started off reallystrong and I ended really
strong, but the middle is like asandwich, a little sandwich.

(24:54):
Yes, yes, okay, I, I did pull.
I do want to make note that Idid include like a full series,
multiple I know exactly one ofwhich, like one of wow, which
describes words.
Man, I know one of those seriesbecause I have that one too I

(25:15):
figured you would, and it'sactually my number one because I
was like I know fub's gonna'sgoing to have it too.
Plus, it's like one, that'sjust.
It deserves all.

Fabienne (25:24):
I'll die on that hill.
I'll die on that hill.
That's what I stand for behindand next to Yep.
That doesn't make sense.
Would you do your?
I was going to say we should sayit on the count of three, but
like I was gonna hold up myfingers but you can't, let's do
it on the count of three, solike one, two go, so actually on

(25:44):
the count, which is an entiredifferent discussion, but just
okay.
So after three, yeah, yep, okay, one, one, two, oh, two, three,
three, throw it a bless.
Yeah, throw it a bless yes,that series is everything it was

(26:08):
.
It's also just one of thoseseries that I don't think that I
can read ever again and havelike that same um visceral
feeling as when I was reading itway back when.
Um, I love agatar, I love it.
I love like the entire trilogyor, like you know, like the
books that come like after, likeindividually, but throne of

(26:31):
glass, it's just like where it'sfucking it yes, agreed.

Jordan (26:36):
Everything that throne of glass is is just.
It's like.
It's just not agatar, it's justlike everything and so much
more, so much more.
And I feel like a lot of peoplethink that as soon as they read
it, and I think, like agatarstill stands, like I think a lot

(26:57):
of people still love that, butI really don't know many people
that, once they read Throne ofGlass, are like still Agatar
stands above Throne of Glassanyways, know if it will hit the

(27:23):
same or and like it might.
But I don't, I don't know.
It's just like something aboutlike reading it for the first
time and like I never wanted toleave and I could, just I
couldn't stop reading and I justI needed all of it.

Fabienne (27:33):
I love that series yeah, I remember, like last year
when I was in one of thosereading slumps because I was in
a lot of reading slumps, justone of one of many.
But when I was in one of those,I started picking up like
kingdom of ash don't ask me,don't ask me why like the last
book in the series too, but Ijust wanted to like feel

(27:54):
something again when reading.
So I was like you know what I'mjust gonna pick out, like you
know, the most bestest,beautifulest book there is, um,
and then I read, and I readactually a few years, like back
to back, like non-stop, and Iwas like, yeah, no, I shouldn't
do this, because that's gonnatake away the joy for me, like
in the moment that I felt when Ifirst read it.

(28:14):
Because it's not going to hitthis um, so it just stopped
preventatively but like it likesucked me in immediately.
That's just the magic thatthrone of glass has agreed,
agreed, okay.

Jordan (28:31):
So do you want to go back and forth?
So you say your first one oryour second one, yeah, my second
one.

Fabienne (28:37):
Sure it's also magical , it's like a fantasy.
It's the All Souls trilogy byDeborah Harkness.
It's like the Discovery ofWitches.

Jordan (28:50):
Oh, I haven't read that I want to.

Fabienne (28:54):
It is so fucking good, at least in my ever ever humble
opinion, of course.
Of course Taste is likedifferent for everyone, in that
sense Like nobody likes the samebooks, or some people do, but
you know you can't force, likesome people, this is your.

Jordan (29:11):
I will die on this.
I take zero criticism.
Everybody has to love this book.
Book Okay.

Fabienne (29:16):
Okay, the All Souls Trilogy Also, because it takes
place in oxford and you know,yeah, you do it's just like it's
witches, it's vampires, it'snot werewolves but it's like
demons, and it's just like itgoes back like centuries.
And then there is like, yeah,I'm not gonna say that because

(29:38):
that might be spoiler, butthere's like it's like so
intricate, like with the detailsand the storytelling, and I
think when I read that, that wasone of the first books where I
genuinely fell in love with themale main character.
I really fell in love with themale main character after, you

(29:59):
know, like my tween period, youknow like after Katniss, and
like Gale and like what's hisname?
Yeah, peter, peter, ah, it wasjust one of those books where I
was like, oh, my God, I gottahave this man Granted.
The man was a vampire, it'sfucking fictional.

(30:20):
So you know, yeah, but, stillyeah so good and the storyline
Jor Jesus fucking Christ,amazing.

Jordan (30:31):
So, okay, mine Me next.
Yes, I know it's not one ofyour favorites, but invisible
life of addy larue by if it'sactually victoria schwab or v e
v e schwab but I think it mightbe victoria schwab on that one
but I love that book so freakingmuch.

(30:55):
I still think about it to thisday and I remember I read it
like back in 2020 when it likefirst released, but it was like
the writing in it.
I like wouldn't shut up aboutit, to the point that, like one
of my friends who had like a oneof those like crafty printers
made me a water bottle with oneof the quotes on it, made me a

(31:16):
mug with one of the quotes on it, and I can't I I think.

Fabienne (31:19):
I.

Jordan (31:20):
I lost them at some point, like during the move,
because I can't find them.
But I was, and still am,obsessed with that book so much
that I, I like it's my goal thisyear to reread it, just because
of I want to annotate it,because since I read it before,
bookstagram is like before we,like I highlighted or underlined

(31:44):
anything.
So I really, really want to dothat with, like, my copy of it,
just because I think I just needto, I just need to, I love that
book so much.

Fabienne (31:56):
I will say though about the book.
Um, it's so beautiful.
I love writing, I love, I lovethat book so much.
I will say, though, about thatbook it's so beautiful, I love
the storyline.
I thought it was really fuckingoriginal.
I'm swearing so much thisepisode.
I do apologize.
I genuinely love the storyline.
I just couldn't connect to thewriting, I guess, or just to
Addie herself, but I did reallyappreciate how it was, how it

(32:21):
ended.
Let me just phrase it like thatbecause I don't want to spoil
it for people who might not haveread it.

Jordan (32:26):
Um but I love the ending .

Fabienne (32:28):
Like it's not your typical ending, I loved the
ending, loved it and just likethe overall bitter sweetness
type of feeling like throughoutthe story it was just, it was
like very palpable almost, andso for that sense I could.
I can really appreciate why youabsolutely adore this book,

(32:50):
even though it's not my favorite, but I can completely
understand why it's yours.
Okay, I'll take it.
Okay, I'll take it.
Now I've got to pick from thelist which one, because I said I
don't really have actualfavorite favorites in terms of 1
to 10.
But I'm going to go withMichael Crichton, which was a

(33:16):
thriller writer.
He is no longer with us.
He wrote Timeline.
He's the same author who wroteum jurassic park and he has like
a myriad of books under hisname, and timeline is one of
those thriller historicalfictions like fiction books,
fiction novels, whereas the wordkind of suggests like they

(33:40):
travel back in time.

Jordan (33:42):
It's like this Do we have to like actually talk about
the book themselves, like whatit is about, or Not if you, if
you don't, I don't think we haveto, I think we can just give
our general Michael Crichtontimeline.

Fabienne (33:56):
End of, yeah, end of Just just just really action
packed and it's just really, Idon't know, just one of those
books that you don't really seemuch on Instagram, at least on
Instagram.
Yeah, just I don't know.
It is just really really goodand it's just one of the first
books again that I dart likethat.

(34:19):
I picked up after, you know,like that long void type of
period, but you know, like wayback when the hunger games came
out, it came out in liketwilight and you know whatever,
like the maze runner, and thenyou know you got older and then
you started reading again.
Like that gap, michael Crichtonwas there for me to start
reading again.
So good, I like it.

(34:42):
So next for you.

Jordan (34:47):
Okay, so my next one is Circe by Madeline Miller, and,
okay, I multiple thoughts here Iwon't tell you about.
Well, I'll kind of tell youabout the book, because clearly
it's about Cersei, but it's.
I'm not a big the Iliad fan butI love the Odyssey, so the fact

(35:12):
that we get Cersei and ifanybody's like read the Odyssey
or like knows anything about it,like Odysseus like stops at an
island and on this island hemeets Circe, so it's about her
whole life and I love Greekmythology so freaking much that

(35:32):
I love this book.
Now, I haven't read the Song ofAchilles, so I can't speak to
that one.
But the reason I haven't pickedit up is because, again, I
don't like the Iliad and I don'tread the Song of Achilles, so I
can't speak to that one.
But the reason I haven't pickedit up is because, again, I
don't like the Iliad and I don'twant to read about this
10-year-long war, because I'malso not a huge war person.
But this one is so good.
But I feel like I need to statethat Madeline Miller writes

(35:57):
Greek mythology.
It is not a retelling, it islike the story behind whatever
it is she's writing and I feellike so many people are like
this is so boring and I likeGreek mythology retellings, so I
feel like I just need to statethat it is not a retelling.

(36:17):
I don't think it's boring and Iwill die on that hill, but I'm
also like a huge Greek mythologyfan, so I understand like maybe
it's not everybody's cup of tea, but again, it's not a
retelling.
So everyone that's listeningjust note it is not a retelling.

(36:38):
The amount of times I've heardpeople say that I'm like stop
please, stop please.
But I love that book with mywhole heart it's a good book.

Fabienne (36:50):
It's so fucking good, it's so good.
I never finished it, though,but I know it's a good book.
I just stopped halfway though,but I know it's a good book.
I just stopped halfway.
Stop.
It wasn't even like a DNF forme, like deliberately it just
like I just happened to just notcontinue it.
I was in the middle of likewriting my thesis, like in uni,

(37:12):
and I'm like gotta prioritizestuff, Whatever that was,
because it sure as hell wasn'tmy thesis, um, um.
But yeah, I did half half.
I did half I did half.
I did half, I read half.
It was a good book so goodespecially like the part where

(37:36):
she like turned people into pigsor like men specifically.

Jordan (37:41):
Yes, but you know, and that was when odysseus came on.
She changed his men to pigs.

Fabienne (37:48):
Well, some of them, clearly not odysseus, but not,
not, not everyone.
She's just like a whole lot ofthem, a whole lot of them.
I actually never read um homer.
To be really honest with you, Ididn't have to I didn't have to
for like school.

Jordan (38:06):
We read pieces of the Odyssey in school.
Thank God we didn't have toread the other one, but I really
want to read it now though.
The Odyssey, at least Not theIliad, not the Iliad Fuck, not
the Iliad Fuck.
That, no, no offense to anybodythat loves it.

Fabienne (38:23):
Wait, didn't you like when you were here, like last
April, didn't you?

Jordan (38:29):
didn't we see like not necessarily like a type of
translation of like one of thosebooks I think it was the Iliad
and it and it was really pretty,like at least the cover, but
but you didn't get it because itwas the iliad, yeah, no, no, I
I remember now yes, typical,typical, typical, not typical,

(38:51):
just yeah, not typical, nottypical not typical.

Fabienne (38:55):
Um, not typical, okay, so for me, me next.

Jordan (39:01):
Well, you next.

Fabienne (39:03):
I also.
Okay, this is more again likein the bookstagram type of
community.
Author.

Jordan (39:09):
Master of Salt and Bones by Carrie Lake Okay, fair, that
is a good fucking book.
That is good.
Some good soup.

Fabienne (39:18):
Some good soup.
I I can't even remember where.
That is good, some good soup,some good soup.
I can't even remember wherethat clip is from.
I know that it was Adam Driverin the movie or whatever, but I
don't remember what movie it was.

Jordan (39:30):
I have no idea, I just know it from you telling me.

Fabienne (39:34):
It's such a good meme Anyways, good soup, master of
salt and bones.
I feel like I want to go off onattention and like explain why
this book is on my list, so I'lljust do that, but then sort of
like more concisely, um, becauseI think, because it's gothic,

(39:54):
oh so, first and foremost, ithas just this really freaking
airy type of sense and like the,the mystery, like clouding
basically the entire story.
There is this dark and broodymale main character, yes, and
it's just like a dark romance.
And it was also my first, Iguess, introduction to carrie
lake's writing and I generallyoverall like her writing.

(40:17):
I should actually say love,since it's on the list anyway.
But, Master of Salt and Bones.
It's just, people can't see me,you can't see me, I can't see
you, but it's right here, likeher writing, that book is just
on top of the top.
Yes.

Jordan (40:33):
Yes, her writing, like the writing in that book is so
freaking good, so good.

Fabienne (40:42):
Can I?
Can I say something that mightbe seen as controversial?

Jordan (40:47):
Yes, do it, we are here for it.
This is the book.

Fabienne (40:53):
I have not been enjoying her other books as much
as I have loved this one andIsle of Sin and Shadow.
Yes, the other ones where shewrites like fantastical worlds,
you know Nightshade I alsoactually really enjoyed.
I know that you were disgustedby it which fair.

Jordan (41:16):
No, no, not to Katie.
I was disgusted by it but like,but Nightshade, but Nightshade.
I did not.
I liked the beginning part, butthen, once I got to 80%, I was
like is this book over?
And I could not start the nextone.
I just was like, nope, we outyeah.

Fabienne (41:37):
I applaud her will and drive to know create
fantastical worlds and Iactually think that she has a
very grand imagination, but forsome reason I don't think it's
executed.
Executed.
That came out really weirdly.
I don't think that is executedwell enough for it to entertain

(41:58):
me or keep me entertained toactually finish the book,
because I was not.
I was taken aback by.
Yeah, well, taken aback is alsolike horrible to say, really
like the night duet.
And I am still having troublewith anathema, anathema oh
really, I don't know.
I heard I'm still reading, butit's just it's a struggle.

Jordan (42:21):
It's a little bit of a struggle.
Bus, yeah.

Fabienne (42:25):
Yeah, I'm doing the same thing you're doing to me to
you, but you just can't see it,but I'm just pretending that I
can't see it.
So you know, it doesn't reallymatter.
Um, I like it, I like it.
I'm like a parrot in that sense, you know, because I can just
be entertained by my own imagery, like I'm literally just
looking at myself in thisNarcissistic, because I feel
like I'm actually like, I'mtalking to you, with you, but

(42:47):
I'm looking at me and it's sostrange.

Jordan (42:50):
I love it.
Keep looking at you.
Ok me next.
I am putting Daisy Jones in theSix by Taylor Jenkins Reid on
here.
I love that book.
I remember it got like they puta lot of marketing behind it

(43:10):
when it first came out.
So I remember reading it whenit first came out in 2016.
And it was.
I've never read a book likethat before, but like the
interview style with it Amazing.
And I remember I used to.
I used to work at like thecasino by me and I would was
working in this like one areathat didn't get a lot of patrons

(43:31):
, so I would bring my book and Iwould put it on like the
counter and I'd read until likesomebody came in and I remember
reading Daisy Jones and the Sixthere.

Fabienne (43:47):
And I just I love that book.
Yeah, I haven't, uh, read whatwas the name like Daisy Jones
and the six.
Yeah, yeah, I haven't read thatone I haven't read that one it's
so good, you should read it ifyou want, I actually you don't
have to, I actually want to.
I mean, I've been still seeingit, like in the bookshops, like
people, like it's still prettypopular.

(44:07):
Actually, every time when I saythe word popular, like the
fucking Ariana Grande just popsup in my head Popular, gotta be
popular.
Have you seen Wicked?
No, I've seen the Broadway butI haven't seen the movie.
I be popular.

Jordan (44:19):
Have you seen Wicked?
No, I've seen the Broadway, butI haven't seen the movie.
I wanted to.
I want to, but I wanted to seeit in theaters, but I didn't.
I think it's actually still intheaters, but I have not have
you?

Fabienne (44:33):
I don't know.
No, I have not.
I don't really.
Okay, don't get me wrong, Ilove not.
I don't really.
Okay, don't get me wrong, Ilove actually.
I actually enjoy, not love, Iactually enjoy musical films,
but I just don't like to go tothem.
Like in theater, I got you Likethe cinema actually, because
what do you do?
Like, what do you do?
You stand up and clap, or likeyou sing along where there's

(44:54):
people next to you and you'reseated and like the energy is
low in the room, like I, I can'tdo that.
I mean, it's just no,absolutely not, no, um, okay, so
daisy jones and the six, um,for me, uh, I also have, uh, the
secret history by donna tart Iwas waiting, waiting.

Jordan (45:17):
I was like she has to have this on here.

Fabienne (45:23):
And you did.
She has to have it on the list.
I did.
I can go on and on and on as towhy this one is on the list.
I'm not going to do that to you.
Then this episode is going tobe like an entire monologue.
A lot of people, but it's onthe list.
Fuck yeah, period End of bore.
A lot of people, um, but it'son the list.

Jordan (45:40):
fuck yeah, period end of okay, I'm, I'm gonna add
gothicana by runix.
I love that book so fuckingmuch and I was.
I did a reread which I was alittle nervous diving in,
because I feel like the firsttime we read it it was like it

(46:00):
just sparked so many things Likethe podcast never would have
started without it.
I love Runix's writing.
I love the book on a pedestalthat I was so scared that when I

(46:22):
reread it it was not going tomeet the standards that I had
for it.
But it did and I think it justproves how amazing that book is
and I just I love that book somuch Is he still flawed for you

(46:48):
that book, so much is he stillflawed for you.

Fabienne (46:50):
Yes when did you reread this?
Actually reread it.
It like in october, in spookytime.
Oh, in spooky time.

Jordan (46:53):
oh yeah, which is very fitting, because I know that was
when we read it the first, or I, yeah, when we read it no.

Fabienne (47:00):
No, Earlier, Because I want to say, with this podcast,
one podcast that this allbasically started has now been
again deleted, but that startedin September I want to say,
Actually, you're right September, september.
You're right, you're right it'sa it's a very much october type
of book, so you know, well done, well done you, thank you, um,

(47:25):
thank you.
We can go back to you realquick, though, oh, I lied oh
really no yeah oh no, didn't.

Jordan (47:32):
oh well then, oh god, um , I reread it in November.
Sorry, I had to clarify, but no, now you can go.
That was actually so.
It was both of ours.
Kind of cool, we had two booksthat were the same.

Fabienne (47:47):
Now it's your turn which is a, or who I should say
is a Scottish writer, a Scottishauthor, and this one was gifted
to me by one of my best friendsfor my birthday and it was also

(48:07):
one of the first literaryfiction type of books that I
read.
After like dark romance, likesolely I want to say like in
2023, like my entire notnecessarily like took a dive,
because that sounds way toodramatic and also more negative
than than it was.
Um, but I basically did acomplete 180 with you know what

(48:32):
I wanted to post, how I like,with my style, the, the theme,
if you will like, the, the, um,the color grading, and I was
more into posting like, moreabout like literary, like
contemporary, and I would likewanted to step away from that a
little.
And then, um, this was giftedto me and it was again one of

(48:57):
the first books.
That was again one of the firstbooks that made me cry.
Oh christ, that made me cry andI don't want to be like, oh, a
pick me kind of girl, but Idon't really cry with books.
So I was, you know, pretty,like, pretty taken aback when I
like read the ending and I hadtears streaming down my face and
jay was asking okay, like areyou fine, so In Ascension.

(49:25):
By Martin McInnes.

Jordan (49:26):
We'll forever recommend.
Okay, okay.
Another one I'm going to add isthe Fabric of Our Souls by KM
Moronova, I think is how youpronounce it.
I read this last year aroundthis time and it is one like it

(49:48):
was like my first book by herand I her writing so good, like
I recently read something elseof hers and so, but like this
book, like it's likeheart-wrenching, it's, it is
dark but it's, I don't know,like it gave me that like spooky

(50:08):
, eerie feeling too, and I justthis is on the list, it's just
this is on the list.

Fabienne (50:15):
So I got I, um, I, I follow her accidentally since
recently.
Oh really, she also wrote a.
Yeah, she also, because I saw apost of hers where she wrote
this dark military romance.
And then I, yes, this book too.
I'm like this is the book thatyou have been like talking about
nonstop for like quite a longtime Last year, like you, gotta

(50:38):
read it.
You gotta read it.
And then I said I did Will, why?
In a long time last year, likeyou, gotta read it, you gotta
read it.

Jordan (50:53):
And then I said I did well and then obviously never
did.
Um, so sorry, by the way, um,but yeah, I was waiting for you
to name this title.
Oh, yes, I actually recentlyread the military one.
How was that?
Oh, so good, so good.
Yes, I'm upset, like I read iton kindle unlimited and I'm like
not buying books or like I meanI did pre-order books like last
year, but I'm not buying likebooks this year, or at least

(51:13):
trying not to.
But I did.
I do like the cover, but Iactually liked the people cover
of the paperback more, but shejust released the hardcover with
the people and I actually havethe hardcover of the Fabric of
Our Souls and the Ballad ofPhantoms in Hope, which is like

(51:40):
technically the sequel to it,yeah, which I need to read, but
I know that one's going to belike heart-wrenching, so I
haven't dived into it yet, butbecause I have those in hardback
, I was like, yes, I'm gettingthe hardcover of leave me behind
and I'm so excited it it's notcoming for a while, but that was

(52:01):
like the one book I've actuallybought this year, but I love, I
love, yeah, I just no, becauseit's so good uh, one, two, three
, I have three other.
I have four.
Should I just go again reallyquick?

Fabienne (52:28):
No, wait, that makes sense, because I started right.
Oh yeah, and well, because also,to, like you said, gothicana
was on yours and then you wentagain, so it actually makes
sense, okay, um, I decided thiswas tough for me because also in
a splits, it was also like atype of split second decision,
because I, I didn't, I didn'tthink that we had to like do

(52:51):
book titles.
I was still like on, like in,like, under the assumption that
we also could do like authors.
Um, so, obviously, katie rosefor me, um, yeah, and then it
was like fuck, which book?
Because I don't want to say theunsatan theories, because one
that's not finished and um, so Ican't wholeheartedly say you
know, my top favorite, because Idon't think she will.

(53:12):
But what if she's not gonna?
But what if?
um, then I also, you know,unorthodox, hmm, true, I can't
say I can't say anythingactually, now that I think about
it, because I was going to sayMonster Hotel, but that's a
fucking duet.
Yeah, oh wait, problem, houston, we have a problem.

(53:39):
Anyways, it was still monsterof hotel number seven.
I like it and um, the reasonwhy I eventually chose that
title is because it's not as um,well, it is fucking dark
because like the underlyingtones and just like the themes
and like the storyline, just youknow, generally speaking, but

(54:00):
it's not as explicit, likesexual, sexually, as her other
books are.
Um, it's more like the tensionbetween two people and like
their chemistry, which is a nicepun because you know
frankenstein and whatnot.
Um, but I thought, yes, themonster hotel number seven.
I just really, I like, devouredthat book and I just it was a

(54:23):
good book.

Jordan (54:24):
It was a really good book.
It was a really fucking goodbook.
Um, so yeah, that one okay, I,I'm gonna, we're gonna go 180
here and I'm adding a.
Ya, I'm adding the hunger gamestrilogy by suzanne coll Collins
just because, like that book Ihas such a special place in my
heart and it is so good, thattrilogy is so good.

(54:48):
But it's like the trilogy Iread that got me into reading,
like I read that back in collegeand it just it started this
like whole trajectory for methat I just like it will always
have a special place in my heartand I love those books so much
so I will take no criticism forthat series.

(55:11):
Thank you, good choice.

Fabienne (55:13):
Good choice.
Good choice.
Yes, I also have and this iswhere I kind of get stuck um,
because I thought, okay, acomplete series that I really,
really genuinely liked, that Ithink I could actually read over

(55:33):
and over again.
um is the bargainer series bylaura thalassa oh, okay okay, it
was either her like that series, or it was going to be jay
brie's the bonds that tie.
And while I you know how much Ilove jay brie, you know how

(55:54):
much I love the bonds that tie,but for some reason the
bargainer series, just like fairjust just like wins here, in
this, in this, like this, thiscase, um, it was also.
There's a lot of one of thefirsts for me in this episode.
It was one of the first series,um which with like fey that I

(56:15):
read after um thrown a glass andlike after akatar and, like you
know, after did like the fromblood and ash which doesn't have
fey, I believe, um but whichactually does not have fey to be
honest so it doesn't even takeit back just saying it for
content, no kidding, um, but I,I, I loved it because it was

(56:37):
like darker.
You know, and remember how wesaid like with Bookstagram, like
back in the day you read YA andthen bam, all of a sudden it's
like Den of Vipers and this wasjust like a nice sort of like
dip of your toe like into likethe darker, muddier romance and
I felt like it's true though Iknow it's so true, it's true and
I also just really love herwriting.

(56:59):
I also really loved fuck, I'mgonna, I'm gonna cheat.
I'm sorry, I'm gonna cheat.

Jordan (57:05):
Fuck it, I'm gonna cheat , I'm gonna cheat it's also.

Fabienne (57:06):
It's also like her four horsemen series oh, I still
need to read those.
It's really really good.
Um, I'm just gonna cram that.
Then this is my list.
I'm gonna like my act 10,because it was like you know no,
give me your actual 10.
If you want, normal people bySally Rooney.

Jordan (57:25):
Oh, okay, okay, All right, well, you can actually
have my 10th because I havethree left.
But I'm actually going to leaveoff the last one because,
thinking about it, it was a yes,because it was a series and, to
be completely honest, I amobsessed with the first three.
But I think the author reallyfell flat on the last book that

(57:48):
I can't, in good conscious, putit on this list, because if it
wasn't finished yet, I wouldhave put it on this list.
But after reading and thinkingabout it and after reading the
last book, I was just like, oh,I think the ending deserved to
be so much more than what shegave us.

Fabienne (58:07):
You are scaring me.
Which series is this?

Jordan (58:12):
I can't say I'll tell you after, but I am going to go.
These two are like my ride ordies.
The first one is Anastasia bySophie Lark.
I wholeheartedly love this book.
I and I think too.
I also read it in December and Ijust like the vibes and I think
Sophie did such a good job withthis book and it makes me so

(58:43):
sad that it was not as receptiveas like she wanted it or
thought it would be like it kindof like a lot of people either
didn't like it or it just likenever.
I don't know if it was justbecause it was like too big and
it.
It's more on that like fantasyside of things that I think
maybe her readers don't want totry because she started as mafia
, but I think they're reallydoing a disservice to themselves
by not reading this book.

(59:03):
But I love this book so fuckingmuch and I'm still.
I'm still so sad of the oneperson on instagram that spoiled
the fucking ending to me basedon like on a reel I posted.
I am still so fucking mad atthat person, but it still will
be like one of my favorite booksof like all time because of it

(59:27):
Not because of the spoiler, butbecause of like this book that
Sophie wrote and I just I lovethis book with my whole heart.
And the last one.
The last one is Hollow Heathensby Nicole Fiorina.
I love the Tales of weepinghollow so much and I love bone

(59:47):
island, but I think hollowheathens like from when we read
it and the town that nicolecreated, the fact that it's like
in maine, so you can it canfeel like real, but it has like
the witches element and justlike the whole storyline she's

(01:00:08):
created for that book, I that isdefinitely one that I could
reread every year and it it justwould.
It's amazing.

Fabienne (01:00:22):
It's a good book.
It's a good book.
It's a good book.
It's a good book.

Jordan (01:00:25):
It's a good soup so you took my tenth spot and I gave
you nine, so it works well,thank you.

Fabienne (01:00:35):
You're welcome, my good deed of the year, the last
one immediately too.
Yes, get ahead of yourself here.
Did you take note, by the way,of all the things that you
wanted to tell me like I guess?

Jordan (01:00:50):
no, I should have no, I know the two things.
I know the two things.

Fabienne (01:00:56):
I will tell you okay, can we wrap this up, because I'm
way too curious about that.

Jordan (01:01:00):
Oh, yeah, I feel like this is a long one, so, thanks,
I will tell you.
Okay, can we wrap this up,because I'm way too curious
about that.
Oh, yeah, I feel like this is along one, so this is a long one
.

Fabienne (01:01:05):
I am sorry, guys, but at least you got some book
recommendations out of this one,so hope you enjoy.
You're welcome.
Thank you so much for listening.

Jordan (01:01:11):
And please don't forget to rate and review wherever you
can find us.
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