The Boone Show - S6 E9 - Tim Self, Executive Director of the AnMed Foundation - The Boone Show

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SPEAKER_08 (00:00):
Alright, everybody.
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
It's another edition of the BoonShow on MyPulse Radio.
Glad to be with you.
And uh we've got a great showplanned as always.
I don't know if they ever turnout great, but we have a great
show planned.
So uh we'll see what happens.
I'm John Boone along with theboss lady Holly Herald.

SPEAKER_10 (00:20):
Hey, good evening.
This is how many weeks in a rowwe've done this?

SPEAKER_08 (00:23):
Five.

SPEAKER_10 (00:24):
Five and this very next week.
Right, because of Thanksgiving,of course.

SPEAKER_08 (00:28):
Yeah.
So it's been quite the streak.

SPEAKER_10 (00:30):
It has.

SPEAKER_08 (00:31):
And then we'll have two more after uh Christmas.
I mean after Thanksgiving,before Christmas.
And then we take a little boot.

SPEAKER_10 (00:37):
That's right.
That's right.
Gotta do that.

SPEAKER_08 (00:39):
Uh Danica's here.
Say hi, Danica.

unknown (00:41):
Hi.

SPEAKER_08 (00:42):
All right.
She's pushing a few buttons hereand there.
And uh always pushing my buttonsin class, but that's uh besides.
Uh but our special guest tonightis the executive director of the
AMMed Foundation, Mr.
Tim Self.
Welcome to the show.
So glad to be here.
Yes.
So glad to have you.
I've uh Well we'll see.
I've heard for I've heard for awhile we need to get you on.

(01:04):
And last last week when I wassaying, you know, he's coming on
next week, Holly, she goes, Oh,that's great.
He's crazy.

SPEAKER_10 (01:10):
He is, you just never know what's gonna come out
of Tim's mouth.
Ever.

SPEAKER_07 (01:15):
You know, at our house, my son's not that far of
a chip off the block, and we saymotorcycle brain with bicycle
brakes.
So get ready.

SPEAKER_10 (01:23):
Yes, that's true statement.

SPEAKER_08 (01:25):
Yeah.
Okay.
So uh Tim, let's get going.
Let's talk a little bit about uhyour background, where you where
you grew up and how you gotwhere you are now.

SPEAKER_07 (01:35):
Yeah.
So I grew up in a little smalltown in East Tennessee called
Greenback.
And Greenback's about the sizeof Iva.
And its distance from uh fromKnoxville is about the same
distance.
And um one one school, K throughtwelve in one town.
We've got one flashing light, adrugstore with uh with uh one of

(01:55):
those uh hot counters that youcan get hamburgers and
everything else.
And every time I go back toTennessee, I I go have breakfast
with my mom there, so that's alot of fun.
Uh been here now ten years,which is remarkable.
Uh never really had intention ofleaving.
I was at the University ofTennessee Medical Center working
in the development department,and uh we had a consultant in

(02:15):
common that had been workingwith NMED and said they're
looking for a new executivedirector of the foundation.
Uh and I think it'd be great.
We came over.
Uh he told me that it was nearuh Clemson University.
Uh being the And you still came.
Well, you know, I didn't knowwhere it is, because you know,
I'm I'm an SEC guy where it justmeans more.
And we you know most we most ofus didn't know where Clemson was

(02:37):
back then.
And so we came over uh fellow.
Yeah, yeah.
Well Tennessee.
My Clemson buddies are quick totell me that it's the wrong
color.

SPEAKER_10 (02:46):
Well, it is the wrong color orange.
I agree.

SPEAKER_07 (02:48):
So, you know, I d I do I do cheer for the Tigers,
but I I I reserve my orange forTennessee and wear purple.
So when I've been at when I'vebeen at Telgates, you look back
at pictures, I'm always inpurple.

SPEAKER_10 (03:00):
I'm trying to think.
I probably I have some pictures.

SPEAKER_07 (03:02):
Yep.

SPEAKER_10 (03:02):
So I'll have to go back and check it out.

SPEAKER_07 (03:04):
Yep.
So came over and uh working withthe foundation now for ten
years.
We've done a lot of good things.
I think we're gonna talk aboutthat in a little bit.
And also a lot more to do isjust this is a growing area and
is access demands for healthcare with people.
No one likes to wait foranything these days.
And so AMMeds expanding to uhmeet what that need is in the
region.

SPEAKER_08 (03:22):
Yeah, I see AMED's popping up all over the place.
They are.

SPEAKER_10 (03:25):
We just have one right down the road.

SPEAKER_08 (03:27):
Yeah, exactly.
That's what, an emergency centeror yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (03:30):
Full emergency center, which is perfect.
We don't have one in the area.
So you do now?
Now we do now you do one up inthe room.

SPEAKER_07 (03:37):
And and there's imaging, lab services, there's
physical therapy and primarycare.
So if you don't have a doctor, II assure you they are taking new
patients.
So if you're tired of waitingand can't get in, give them a
call.

SPEAKER_08 (03:50):
All right.
So easy access.
Um we'll get back to, as youmentioned, the AMET Foundation,
but tell us about your family alittle bit.

SPEAKER_07 (03:57):
So I'm uh uh married to my wife Elizabeth.
We went to high school together.
Uh 22 years.
We did not date in high school.
Oh, I know I pursued in highschool, and she laughs about it
because you know, here I was.
I don't mean I was a catch.
I was a scout, I was an ROTCmember, I was class president, I
had braces, so I was gonna havestraight teeth.

(04:18):
Yeah, all those just check allthe boxes.
And she wanted nothing to dowith me.

SPEAKER_09 (04:21):
What's wrong with her?

SPEAKER_07 (04:23):
And so some so the summer after we after uh we
graduated, she gave me a shot.
And so uh, you know, we datedabout six years and been married
now 22 years.
We have two great children.
Uh I'm especially fond of them.
Uh 13-year-old Ramsey, that's aeighth grader at McCanth Middle
School, and Creed is a fifthgrader at Concord uh elementary
school.

SPEAKER_10 (04:44):
Very involved in scouts, both of your children.

SPEAKER_07 (04:46):
We are.
We are.
We've uh so uh Ramsey is uh asyou know, the Scouting America,
which was formerly the BoyScouts of America.
Uh they became uh, you know,they integrated genders and now
there's girl troops and boytroops.
And so she's a Star Scout andworking diligently on that Eagle
Scout, which hopefully we'll seein the next couple years.
And Creed has been, this is hissixth year as a Cub Scout, so

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he's an AOL, Arrow of Light, andhe's gonna cross over.
And when they go over to Scouts,they become scout-led or boy led
or youth-led, which meansdaddy's got to let baby bird out
of the nest.

SPEAKER_10 (05:19):
Because you're very involved in it.

SPEAKER_07 (05:20):
But I'm a crybaby, so when he crosses over, it's
gonna be something, I'll tellyou that.

SPEAKER_08 (05:25):
That's pretty cool though.
You had um a couple of storiesfrom your scout leadership.

SPEAKER_07 (05:30):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (05:31):
I know one of them's the old uh uh good uh uh Girl
Scout cookie sales story, whichthey're always good.
Oh yeah.
Um but t talk about when youjust got into scouts and you
weren't sure you were gonna be aleader.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (05:46):
Well, you know, I I mentioned you know, Greenback,
my mom was a hardworkingelementary school teacher, 39
years as a teacher, was a singlemom, and scouting for me was
that collective father figure.
You know, all the leaders thatvolunteered uh that really
poured into me in a way thattaught me those those
characteristics of scouting ofcitizenship, personal fitness,

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uh what it means to be uhdevelop your leadership skills.
And then uh went throughscouting and did not earn my
eagle.
It was one of a one of a regretin my life.
I came down with what manypeople do is called the fumes,
gasoline fumes and perfumes, andyou get a little bit distracting
Cars and things.
Yeah, I mean, you get distractedwith certain things in life, you

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know, par parts of your life.
And then uh but I've always beenconnected with scouting.
In fact, my first job out ofcollege was as a uh I was a
service learning scholar, so Iknew I was gonna work in
nonprofit management orsomething at some point.
And it was with the Boy Scoutsof America, I was a district
executive and loved that job,and then later went into some
other things.
But um then as we had kids, weuh you know we said we knew we

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wanted to get involved.
Ramsey was the first one to getinto Scouts.
Uh she was a Girl Scout.
And man, I'm gonna tell youwhat, she could sell those
cookies.
Well, I remember one time wewere out in front of uh the
Walmart Marketplace on 81.

SPEAKER_10 (07:01):
Everybody does it.

SPEAKER_07 (07:02):
And um Gotta get the good spots.
Oh yeah.
That's it.
Well, we we we we brought outsome of our musical instruments
and we would make musictogether.
We taught taught them how to howto cast that line and say, hey
sir, and then reel them in.
You know, say, come on, you reelthem in, just have some fun with
it.
And you know, and and being ableto teach them that people want
to support their efforts more sothan maybe they want cookies or

(07:25):
even with Boy Scouts later,popcorn.
Popcorn is expensive.
Right.
And it's not no one wants thepopcorn.
Now people do want the cookies,even though the packages have
gotten smaller and the price hasgone up.
That's still good.
So goes life, so goes life.
Um but saying you'll ha uhlooking people in the eye and
just saying, Hey, would you liketo help support me meet my
goals?
And those goals are to go tocamp, to learn, they don't say

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salesmanship, but just learn howto talk to people, and people
respect that.
You know, that whenever theywere buying uh at the time, they
think they were four dollars,and so they'd say, We get four
boxes, and they'd say, How aboutteaching them how to say, well,
how about five for twenty?
That way I don't have to giveyou change.

SPEAKER_10 (08:01):
Right.

SPEAKER_07 (08:02):
Nobody ever gets disappointed with too many Girl
Scout cookies.

SPEAKER_10 (08:04):
No, absolutely.

SPEAKER_07 (08:05):
You know, it's always that time they wish they
got more.
And so I this one time Ramseywas uh uh talking to some person
and they asked if they had uhketo friendly cookies.
And she kind of she had thatlook.
So I just kind of chimed in andI said, No, they're not
keto-friendly, but listen, theydon't last long.
They're free calories.
And they got a good laugh out ofthat.
And just showing her it's aboutconnection.

(08:26):
And you know, I think you know,anytime you run across young
people that are trying to sellsomething for their school,
scouts, or whatever, uh, youknow, the the the putting
themselves out there and askingpeople to help support them is a
great lesson.
And it's more so than whatthey're purchasing, but what
it's representing.
And you know, that was that wasmy case for me that got me later
into fundraising is you know, issome all those I was the number

(08:47):
one gift wrapping paper salesmanin the elementary school and
crispy cream donuts and allthose sorts of things.
But it's just about askingpeople to get involved, to help
you, because people don't getinvolved if you don't ask them
to do something.
And uh so anyway, and alsohaving fun with it.
And then Ramsey was the anotherthing, uh, because uh Robbie I
think appreciated this since hewas a veteran and just passing

(09:10):
Veterans Day, thank you to allof our veterans for your
service.
But uh, when someone would say,uh, well, I can't have those
cookies, I got the sugar.

SPEAKER_09 (09:17):
Diabetes.

SPEAKER_07 (09:19):
And say, Well, you know what?
If there was a way that youcould help our troops, you would
want to know about it, wouldn'tyou?
Well, sure I would.
And then she would just simplyask, Well, you know, if you buy
some cookies, we'll send them tothe troops and let them know how
much you appreciate.
So, do you want to do five boxesfor twenty?
Wouldn't that be helpful to saythank you to our troops for
serving?
And so just having fun with itand also watching their
confidence grow is great.

SPEAKER_10 (09:40):
That's right.

SPEAKER_08 (09:40):
Back to the um the thin mints.
Yeah.
You didn't mention that.
They they actually bought what,three boxes after you made that
comment about the they're theymay not be keto, but they don't
last long.
That's right.
And uh and then overhearing yourdaughter a little later on using
the same method.
Oh, absolutely.
You know, just take it andbridge it, bridge it to turn it
into something else.

SPEAKER_10 (10:01):
Yes, that's what you want.

SPEAKER_08 (10:03):
That's right.
Yep.
Um, and speaking of the scoutsand all that, you do a lot of
outdoor stuff with your kids,don't you?

SPEAKER_07 (10:09):
Yeah, I sure do.
So, yeah, anytime we try to goanywhere, uh, we try to be
outside.
I mean, in fact, this next weekwe're gonna be in the Smoky
Mountains and our family's fromthat East Tennessee area, so
we'll find a way to go go hikingand spend the time out.
You know, and that's you knowyoung people are not out enough,
I don't think, anymore.
I don't think anybody's outenough anymore, you know, just
to get outside and get grounded.

(10:30):
And so one of our family goalsis to go to all the national
parks together.
And we're up to sixteen so far.

SPEAKER_10 (10:35):
Oh, very cool.

SPEAKER_07 (10:36):
Yep.
And so we've been in Alaska andwe've been to Washington and
we've been down to this pastspring break, we went to St.
John National Park and uh in uhdown in the Caribbean.
Uh, but with scouting, you know,one of the things that really
got me involved as an adultleader was just watching some of
my friends.
Um one of them in particular isgot named Timothy Clardy.
He's an attorney in um in uhAnderson.

(10:58):
You some of y'all probably knowhis wife, Shelby.
They run the Bluckley Inn.
But seeing Timothy engage withhis son, his son Isaac's a
couple years older than than mymy son and my daughter, but
watching him interact with thoseyoung people, uh, he's an Eagle
Scout, and watching how parentsleaned on him as he encouraged,
as he led, as he guided thosescouts, you know, I said that's

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something that I want to be.
And he was a couple years aheadof us, like I said, but you
know, I got to be a den leaderwith him, and I still lean on
him today uh whenever I havequestions.
And I think that's you know,programs like scouting, there's
that it's ran by volunteers,people that just genuinely want
to get involved and make a uh adifference.
And uh he's one of my heroes,certainly in scouting.
So if you're listening, Timothy,thank you for all you do for our

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young people and for me.

SPEAKER_08 (11:45):
Where are some of the good places you go hiking in
East Tennessee?

SPEAKER_07 (11:48):
Well, you know, there's a great hike in uh
called Rocky Top.
Y'all may have heard Rocky Top.
I can sing it for you if you'dlike.
Well, that's all right.
You know, uh Rocky Top is a goodone.
It's actual hike that you can doin the Smoky Mountains just
outside of Cades Cove.
Uh, probably my all-timefavorite hike is a place called
Mount Lacan.
There's a lodge, and it's one ofthe top ten rated lodges by

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National Geographic Magazine.
This past May, my daughter and Igot to go up and hike up and
spend the night, and it's anoff-the-grid lodge.
So, I mean, we've got oillanterns, you've got it's a full
service, but it's rustic.
And uh so Mount Lacan is anotherfavorite uh hike that I do, and
then our namesake, you know, mydaughter's name is Ramsey,
there's a place called RamseyCascades in Greenbrier.

(12:30):
So if you're ever coming overfrom I-40 from Asheville and you
take that back road intoGatlinburg, that Greenbrier
area, but that's where my familywas from before the park came
in, they got moved out, boughtout by the park.
And uh so that area has somefamily uh connections there.
It's a pretty rugged trail witha great cascading waterfall.
But anywhere in the SmokyMountains is a whole lot
prettier.

(12:50):
It's real fun, right?
Yeah, especially this time ofyear.
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (12:53):
Um I think the last time I went hiking up there was
uh at Fall Creek Falls.

SPEAKER_07 (12:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (12:59):
Went hiking there, they and the waterfall was
literally not even working.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It was it had been so dry thatyou could go all the way down
underneath.
There was no water coming downoff of it.
But when it does come, that isalso fantastic to see.

SPEAKER_07 (13:14):
Fall Creek Falls is more in middle Tennessee.
Is it?
And uh I like I like educatingpeople in in South Carolina.
You know, the three stars on theTennessee state flag represents
the th what they call the threegrand divisions east, middle,
and west.
And it has more to do withtopography of the state because
the east is that AppalachianRange, World Sharp Hills, Middle
Tennessee, as you probablyrecall from being at Fall Creek

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Falls, there's there's hikes,but it's plateaus, it's a lot of
sandstone.
And then West Tennessee is thatuh Mississippi Delta plains and
you know, large farms and otherthings.
But there's a great place theretoo called the Big South Fork
National Recreation Area.
And it's one of the only riversthat runs north into Kentucky,
it ends up going into Somerset,Kentucky.
And there's some great hikes inthere.

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And another another one of thetop ten lodges is a place called
Chariot Creek.
And that's not Chariot, it'sChariot C-H-A-R-I-T Creek.
And uh that's a great place togo.
And the best part about that isyou have a choice.
You can take a mile hike down toit or a five-mile hike to get to
it.
So if you're on a fast track,you get there quick.

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If you want to take your timeand stroll, then you can do the
five mile.
So unlike the Mount Lacan, whichis way more strenuous from that
standpoint.

SPEAKER_10 (14:22):
Very cool.

SPEAKER_07 (14:23):
That's cool.
I always like to know a newplace to go.

SPEAKER_08 (14:25):
I forgot where Fall Creek Falls was.
I just remember being there.
And thanks for straightening meout on that.
Um, there's the the views therewere just uh tremendous.
All right, uh, we're gonna takea quick time out, and then Tim
is going to educate us on theANMED Foundation, what it does,
what it's all about, how itworks.
That's coming up.

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Welcome back to the Moon Show on My Pulse Radio.
Our special guest tonight, TimSelf, the executive director of
ANMED Foundation.
And uh before we even get tothat, what what was your
inspiration to get into such afield?

SPEAKER_07 (17:09):
Yeah, so going back to scouting, um, you know, I I
was sitting in the parking lotof Marival College one night and
going to a lock-in, an all-nightlock-in, Cub Scout lock-in when
I was a kid.
And there was a guy named BrianLincas, was the district
executive, and I was telling mymom how much I liked him, and
she said, you know, you ought todo that job one day.
And I said, Really?
I don't think I can do that.
She said, Sure you do.

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You you like to help people.
And talk.
And I didn't and I didn't wellget to that in a minute.
I I didn't realize how profoundthat is, but when I in
reflection realized that wasprobably that seed of, you know,
that do good or nonprofit work.
And uh then when I went toschool at Marival College, I was
what's called a Bonner Scholar,which is a service learning

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scholar, which required certainnumbers of service hours.
Uh each semester they helped youwith books and per purchasing
books and uh your tuition andsome other different things.
But that was really probablywhere it set forth that I was
going to do this kind of workand devote to some kind of a
nonprofit.
Also, as Holly just said, liketo talk.
I mean, that's usually whatpeople do.
And working for the Boy Scouts,uh, volunteers uh were the two

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things volunteer and scoutrecruitment, membership, and
raising money.
And it turned out I was muchbetter at raising money than I
was at managing volunteers,because that can be tough.
You gotta be you gotta bepatient, we gotta have
volunteers, but also you gottaknow what lane uh to be in.
That's right.
And uh whenever I had theopportunity to go into some
other fundraising opportunities,I've worked for the Kidney

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Foundation, uh National KidneyFoundation, worked for a uh
United Methodist Children's Homeup in Greenville, Tennessee,
that served the Holston uhconference, and then had the
opportunity to uh apply for ajob at the University of
Tennessee Medical Center.
And um when I got to healthcare, that's when I was like,
okay, I I have landed wherewhere I need to be because any

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community that you that you livein, those greatest health care
needs are are never going to goaway, unfortunately.
So there's always gonna besomeone vulnerable, there's
always gonna be someone in need,and and sometimes it's us.
Sometimes it's us.
So uh being able to be at thatthat connection of needs and
resources is an awesome placefor for someone that's in
fundraising.
And I think anyone infundraising would tell you that,

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that you know, when you canconnect those things and when
people are willing to sharetheir their resources to help
others, uh that's a specialplace to observe.

SPEAKER_08 (19:27):
I tell you, that makes me think of you coming
through the pandemic that musthave been quite the challenge,
both for raising money but alsofor how to distribute and help
people.

SPEAKER_07 (19:38):
Yeah.
So I think that the you know thehealth care at COVID was a a uh
rallying call for people tobetter understand how our health
systems are not so much a justin case uh system.
Everybody thinks it's just incase.
Um because whenever we werehearing about the possibility,
what if I go to the emergencyroom and people can't see me?

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And you know, in the times whenwe had better stewards of our
time, you know, with everything,you know, you hear Aline, Sig
Sigma, you know, we have uh, youknow, from a just-in-case system
to a just in time system.

SPEAKER_09 (20:12):
Right.

SPEAKER_07 (20:12):
That uh you know when the hospitals will say
there's no beds, there's usuallya bed.
I mean, you know, in a roomthat's clean.
It's that they don't have thepeople to serve and they've got
to have those ratios to makesure that it's a safe
environment for you to be in.
And um, you know, between uhfrom fundraising, but also, you
know, this community reallystepped up, you know, coming

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from a textile community, uh, wesaid we need masks because of
all the supply chain backup andissues.
And we there was a leadershipmeeting, and we're like, what
are we gonna do about masks?
I mean, you know, people can'treuse these surgical masks, and
we said, you know, let's seewhat we can do.
And we went about uh doing acall out to the greater Anderson

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community, and all these oldtextile workers were able to
pull out some of their oldsewing machines.
And you know, we've got 4,500employees now, 3,500 or so then,
but we were able to accumulate12,000 handmade masks during
that.

SPEAKER_10 (21:08):
Isn't that incredible?

SPEAKER_07 (21:09):
Where and and the and the idea was is that every
healthcare worker got two.
You know, you got one to wearand then the other one you
washed in between, and that wayyou had a fresh mask and then
some extras if if we needed tobe.
But then then there werecommunities that were able to
step up and give resources likethose masks.
And ACTC was one of the firstpartnerships that said, hey,
we've got some things in ourhealth sciences building.

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Here's can this help?
Other health uh independent uhphysicians, dentist office, and
others said, Hey, maybe these uhN95 masks that we have here, I
think you guys might need themmore than we do.
Here's a couple of g gallons ofbleach, because we don't know
what you're gonna need to do tosanitize and clean.
So it became a rallying cry inmany ways, and even from the

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fundraising standpoint, many uhcorporate partners and
businesses said, man, withouthealth care, we're all gonna be
in a bind.
And what can we do tocontribute?
And I think that that hascarried forward even since uh
twenty uh twenty twenty for usanyway, and build some good
relationships and partnerships.

SPEAKER_10 (22:09):
Oh, I know for sure.
You know, we've we had so manyissues during that time.
I mean, everybody did, right?
It was it it we learned so much.
It was a horrible time for oursociety in general for for for
health reasons.
But to me, we got together somuch, we talked so much more, we
communicated about what peopleneed and we pitched in together

(22:32):
and did it.
I mean, John, you remember theshow, that's where this came
from.
You know, I mean, COVID is whatbrought us here together where
we're sitting right now, wherewe've been doing this for six
seasons.
Um, but we we met so many peoplewhen we were doing our show and
how many people we all cametogether and we all did the
support.
It was incredible.
So, yes, it was a a pandemic,yes, it was a horrible uh time

(22:55):
in in in people's lives.
But I go back to my life and andour lives here at ACTC and how
much more strong we got duringthat time as a community.

SPEAKER_07 (23:05):
Oh yeah.
I think that you know we are allindividuals and we str we we we
demand our individuality,correct?
But there was such acollectiveness that we all were
able to be a part of, not justwitness, but to be a part of in
that moment.
I remember someone saying, Idon't know if it's a podcast or
somewhere, that we're gonna lookback and even though it's scary
and none of us want to do itagain, there's there's gonna be

(23:26):
some really good time.
And w the other day, you know,the nice thing about time hop
and using our phones andpictures is uh there was a
picture that popped up just theother day with my children, and
it was a chalkboard, and itsaid, Today is November the
14th.
Your teacher today, Mr.
Self, aka Daddy.
Right.

(23:46):
Motto for the day, you're gonnalearn today.
And there's a picture of my kidsjust they didn't they didn't
think it was funny.
I thought it was hilarious.
I'm still laughing today.
But you know, but but but thenbut even though it was a
struggle, the uh the time thatwe got to spend with the family
in those close quarters, we'renot gonna get back.
I mean, that was really special.
And granted, there were peoplethere were people that lost
people, which is so sad.

SPEAKER_09 (24:08):
Right.

SPEAKER_07 (24:08):
Uh that that that that but you know, but there was
some togetherness now that Ithink some of us still yearn for
of that.

SPEAKER_08 (24:15):
Yeah.
So tell us what exactly now, foranybody that's wondering, um,
what the AMMED Foundation does.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (24:23):
So our our we are what's called a soul support
foundation.
Our job is to sub to uh fillgaps and needs for ANMED as they
m seek to to address thegreatest health care needs of
our community.
That's not any different thanany other health care
foundation.
Their job is to find out whatwhatever it is that operations
budgets many times can't fitinto uh what is it that we can

(24:46):
do uh to um to help with that,to bring those.
Pulling in the parking lottoday, I was having a
conversation with our emergencydepartment people.
Uh, we had a donor call andsaid, hey, we'd like to do
something before the end of theyear.
And you know, with the recent uhdoge and a lot of the cuts of
federal governments and grants,uh there's an organization in
town called First Light, youknow, and they help with uh

(25:06):
things related to um any type ofuh a trauma that's a sexual
assault or other things.

SPEAKER_10 (25:11):
But they just don't know specifically children.

SPEAKER_07 (25:13):
And and children and children, but they also do
adults.
And and they're there to walkwith as advocates, but also to
help educate and get resources.
Well, those resources are goingaway.
And there's a there's aparticular certification called
SANE, uh Sexual Assault NursingExaminer.
And now nurses are able to doexams, but that that type of

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certification, when they go tocourt, that's what separates
their evidence collection versusthose that can be thrown out
because of, you know, just thatthey they weren't quite they
didn't have the certification todo that.
You know, it's$2,500 betweentheir test, between their their
education proportion, and thenthey have to do some clinical

(25:54):
roundings that's specific tothat work that they can't put
apart of.
Then they got another 300 hours.
And we need ten of those.
We've got we've got three thatwe've that work very diligently
and take their job very serious.
But we need ten of those so thatway at any point on a shift, if
someone presents, not if, butwhen someone presents, we've got
the resources to meet.

(26:15):
And while the hospital will, youknow, we've got those three,
there's possibility of thatdonor that can say, hey, you
know, for those ten that youneed, here's$25,000, so that way
we can remove the barrier sothat need can be met.
I'm not a healthcare worker, butyou know what?
I can fund those so they can getthe resources they need, so that
if my neighbor or my family or Ineed that, that that's there.

(26:36):
You know, so you know thatdiscovering where those needs
are, sometimes we call it theexcellence gap in my my
business.
You know, the excellence gap isthat margin is so little that
only way that that getsfulfilled is by people
collectively caring enough togive their resources so that we
can accomplish things togetherthat we otherwise would not.

SPEAKER_08 (26:55):
Well, you shared uh before the show five points of
how it all works with raisingthe money.
First off, the philosophy ofphilanthropy.

SPEAKER_07 (27:05):
Yeah.
So philanthropy, number one, youknow, it can't the the the term
philanthropy, people think it'sjust a term that represents the
Carnegies of a hundred yearsago, the the Duke, uh the Duke
Foundation, you know, differentthings that uh uh uh people, but
really what what philanthropythe word means is for the love
of mankind.
So there's many ways we we'rephilanthropists.

(27:25):
It's we we can give our time toserve, that's part of being a
philanthropist.
You know, many times we say it'sdollars, and and certainly that
that is the point.
Now, that is what I'mprofessionally trained to do is
to uh John to separate you fromyour money to meet the greatest
needs of our health care.
Right.
And and and there is a way youwould there was if there was a
way that you could help people,you would want to know about it,
right?
See, I got y'all rolling you in.

(27:46):
Yeah right, reeling you in.
But the philosophy ofphilanthropy, you know, really
goes back to that Puritantradition that the United States
was founded, you know, some andsomewhere there's a little even
guilt in that, you know, thatres uh that uh reciprocity uh
when somebody does somethinggood for me, I want to do
something to give back.
And and in that moment ofgratitude, that is where some

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beautiful philanthropy does isthat why am I writing this
thousand dollar check to thisorganization mission?
I should be conserving this forme, and then releasing that to
say, I hope that this does good.
And many times we don't knowthat impact that someone is
going to be able to have.
You know, I was I was impactedin college by the Bonner
Foundation, and there was afamily that had uh resources

(28:28):
that made that available to manyuniversities and colleges around
the country because they sawthat we needed more service
people.
I've never met the Bonners, butthey impacted me, and I know
that there's other people thatthey that they've impacted.
So when we look at thatphilosophy and we think about
what that philosophy is, it'sreally how do I do as much good
with the resources that I haveto help as many people as I can.

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Second point, what motivatesdonors?
You know, uh gratitude is one ofthe best places that motivates
donors.
And I tell uh I tell some peopleat the at the medical center
there's three kinds ofphilanthropy, if I were to put
it in, you know, the I think theone that we're most familiar
with is what I calltransactional philanthropy.
I buy a ticket, I attend event,uh, I have a great time.

(29:10):
Uh and by the way, we're helpingmeet the need with whatever that
margin might be.
Uh I need to coin this term.
It's called philanthropement.
Many times it'sphilanthropement.
And and and you know, it's a wayto get people in the door, uh,
but many times people can walkout and not even realize, you
know, what the impact was therefor.
That's right.
Right.
And so, or you know, thetransaction of um, you know, you

(29:34):
interact with somebody sellingGirl Scout cookies or Boy Scout
pop cookies.

SPEAKER_10 (29:38):
Or a raffle ticket for our small building.
There you go.

SPEAKER_07 (29:40):
Yes, that's it.
I mean, so you know, it's so sothere can be some almost an
exchange, right?
Right.
Then I call what I talk about inthat moment of gratitude is
transformational philanthropy.
And the transformation happensin two ways.
The first part is that because Igave something transformed to be
better and a need was met thatwas not there before.
The other part Thattransformation is when you look

(30:01):
in the mirror.
That I'm proud of what it isthat I was able to do.
And guess what happens?
That moment fades.
And John, do you know how youget it back?
I don't know.
You gotta give it again.
That's right.
I want that feeling.
That's right.
You gotta give it back.
And then and then the third,which can blend into all this,
is relational.
You know, we trust people,relationships um make things

(30:22):
happen.
Uh Holly and I got to spend ayear together in a program
called Leadership SouthCarolina.
We traveled across the state.
We learned a lot about differentindustries, needs of our of our
great state.
And um, one of the things thatwe got to talk about was the
needs of the health uh health uhhealth sciences program here at
ACTC.
And we got to talking about, youknow, what what were some of the

(30:43):
barriers to our students makingthat education to career
transition?

SPEAKER_10 (30:48):
Specifically patient care technician for the NMED
hospital.
Right.
They needed it.

SPEAKER_07 (30:53):
Well they needed it, but what were your barriers?

SPEAKER_10 (30:55):
Right.
We had money barriers.

SPEAKER_07 (30:56):
But you know, students couldn't come to that
right.
There was somewhere there wassome rule that you had to be 18
years old.

SPEAKER_10 (31:02):
Well, yes, that too.

SPEAKER_07 (31:03):
Usually even 21, it was very difficult.
And I think institutions put upthese barriers that at the time
it made sense.
Well now across particularlyrural America, you know, we've
got a shortage of health careworkers at all levels.
Right.
And you know, we want to retainour talent in our towns, period.
So, you know, particularly inAnderson uh uh school districts
one and two, they've got anoption.

(31:24):
They can go north and they cango to Greenville, and there's
two health systems there, but wewant to keep them here.
And so one you you a you said,hey, how can our students get
in?
Relationally, guess what?
It turned out I was good friendswith a guy named Dr.
Stoney Abercrombie, who's thedean of our medical education
program with MUSC.
And I said, Are you willing tohave a conversation?
Sure.
And that's all that it took.

(31:44):
And that barrier fell andstudents happened.
The other thing we realized atthat moment, our chief nurse,
Shonda Trotter, is a graduate ofthis program from 1997.
Yep.
And so, and then the secondthing was is we needed to update
the um the education space.
And your students were learningon beds and and equipment that

(32:05):
was 20, 30 years old.
And I'll tell you, if you gethealth equipment now, it's
already out of date.
That's how much technology ischanging, right?

SPEAKER_09 (32:11):
That's right.

SPEAKER_07 (32:12):
And so we went about trying to figure out how we
could partner with some of ourvendors so that way the students
are learning on equipment todayso that when they make that
transition, they're not havingto learn new equipment.
It's very familiar.
And also, we got you some what?

SPEAKER_10 (32:26):
Some bet oh, some money to renovate a facility.
So we actually have in ourhealth science lab, we actually
have a room that looks exactlylike an ANMED hospital room.
Right.
It is to dimension-wise,everything when you walk in, it
looks exactly like when you gointo the hospital room.
Well, the bathroom's a littlebigger because we got to get 20

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students in there to be able toshower somebody.
So it is a larger bathroom.
But other than the bathroom, thethe the room itself is exactly
everything on the back of thewall, uh, to the oxygen, to the
machines that we use, everythingis exactly like when the
students go and work for ANDMED.

SPEAKER_07 (33:02):
Right.
And so we talk aboutcollaboration.
Think about that.

SPEAKER_10 (33:04):
That's important.

SPEAKER_07 (33:05):
Philanthropy help connect, a need for students to
be able to have just-in-timeeducation.
We want to keep our great talenthere in our community.
Uh ANMED needs great talent, sowe've already got an inventory
if we can remove those barriers.
Then we need to updatefacilities.
ANMED passed through the money,but it was not ANMED money that

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invested this.
We had a donor that wasinterested in ANMED and said,
Tim, what is your need?
We need uh technicians.
Well, what does it need?
We need fifty thousand dollarsin order to invest to help them
update this, and our engineeringdepartment is going to advise
these students that will learnhow to build it.
And so there were so many uniquecomponents of collaboration, but

(33:47):
also gifting to make thiscommunity better, ultimately to
meet that meet the greatestneeds of our community.

SPEAKER_10 (33:52):
And now our students leave us with the CNA
certification, with the which isthe certified nursing assistant,
the PCT certification, which isthe patient care technician, and
they do their clinical hours atANMED, all because of this
relationship of being able toget together and figure out how
we can fix the problem for allof us.

SPEAKER_08 (34:10):
Right.

SPEAKER_10 (34:11):
So it it was a full circle.

SPEAKER_08 (34:14):
Yep.
Something I'm very proud of.
Yes.
And that's just one example.
That's just one example.
That's your job.
Right.
Uh you did skip ahead though.
You did uh answer thetransactional versus
transformational.
That's a nice blend.
That was.
Um the the one negative part youhad in here is how confidence
can be lost.
So putting it in a positive way,how can it not be lost?

(34:35):
Yeah.
Thank you.
Or the lack thereof.

SPEAKER_07 (34:38):
So while gratitude.
So while gratitude is, you know,the key to engaging and inviting
people to participate and getinvolved with you, the lack of
gratitude or the or the thedisingenuousness of a possible
gratitude, you know, wheneveryou get that letter from an
organization that says your gifthas helped us do this, you are
so important to us.
And then whenever all of asudden maybe you don't give that

(35:01):
year.
Whether you maybe that they didsomething you didn't like, or
maybe you forgot, and then yourealize, well, was I really that
important?
Nobody, nobody called me to askme.
And there was a situation whereI I was uh uh donor to an
organization.
There were some things thatadjusted, and and I say looking
back, it was pretty petty.
I got my feelings hurt.

(35:22):
I'm a sensitive guy, John.
Uh I told you I'm gonna I'm acry baby, I'm gonna cry whenever
Creed crosses over as an AOLstudent.
But but but uh you knowsomething happened, and I don't
know what it was, but I decided,hey, I'm not gonna, I'm not
gonna give this year.
And I didn't get that letter.
But this went on about two orthree years, and um and
reflection, like it hurt me morethat I wasn't supporting

(35:42):
something that was important tome than it was that you know I
kind of got my feelings hurt bysomebody who I didn't have that
great of a relationship with.
And I was meeting with a donorfor the Methodist Children's
Home that was also a trustee ofthis organization.
And I loved the fact that he didthis.
And our conversation, he said,you know, Tim, uh I noticed that
before you were involved withus, but I don't see you on our

(36:03):
donor role anymore.
Um have you not given this year,or is there something I should
know about?
And I and I expressed it to him.
And he said, You know, Tim, I'msorry that that happened.
I hope that you would consideruh supporting us because you
know the work we do matters.
And he invited me back.
And so gratitude comes indifferent ways.
But also the other thing is isoftentimes we avoid conflict.

(36:24):
Any something that could feltmake us uncomfortable.
And that I think that's anopportunity.
That's not that's not somethingto shy away from.
And we may not get another donorback, but at least we can
salvage a relationship that canopen doors maybe later uh by
just owning whatever it was thathappened, even though that we
weren't a part of it.
You know, a key statement Imade, if I was in your shoes, I
would probably feel exactly thesame way.

(36:45):
I'm sorry that that happened toyou, and I hope that one, it'll
never happen again, but two, yousharing it with me might will
give me the opportunity to tryto prevent somebody else from
experiencing that.
And and people are generally,you know, receptive to that, but
it's got to be genuine.
And I think that when you invitepeople to get back involved and
you do it in a meaningful way,then they're appreciative of
that.
In fact, I think it's evenstronger if that's the case.

(37:06):
If you if they lose theirconfidence in you, you can gain
them to come back.

SPEAKER_08 (37:10):
And the last point you had on there was
volunteerism, which you've kindof a little little bit referred
to so far.
But uh tell us more about that.

SPEAKER_07 (37:17):
Sure.
Uh you know, even I mean youknow we talk about engagement, I
mean that's volunteerism.
Even sometimes when we're paidin our jobs, what is it that
causes us to go above andbeyond?
And uh that volunteerism doesn'tjust come from me from that
being a Tennessee volunteer.
Uh it comes from that standpointof where do I want to spend my
time?
Because even though we raiseresources, our time is our

(37:38):
greatest resource.
And that that volunteer timewith who we spend time with,
that volunteerism with theorganization.
Uh re recently I've gotteninvolved the last two years at
our church, First Presbyterianof Anderson, and we do have
something called First at First.
And it's Saturday on s firstSunday of each month, we have an
open table.
And it's really easy to say it'sfor the homeless because we're
near the Salvation Army, we'renear Hope Mission, and there's a

(38:02):
lot of people that hang aroundin that area.
But oftentimes it's familiesthat are just struggling and
they just need a a meal, and itgives them a break.
And these are people that Iotherwise would not most of us
would just pass and not pay anyattention.
But we learn that, you know,therefore, but by the grace of
God, things can change in oursituations and I can be in that

(38:22):
situation.
And sometimes it's just a matterof sitting down with somebody
and talking with them about whattheir what their condition is.
And maybe I can't help, but justthat acknowledgement is a sense
of humanity and appreciation.
Um two weeks ago, whenever wedid it this last time, there was
there we had more than a normalgroup.
And I think a lot of it had todo with the government shutdown

(38:44):
and with the elimination of SNAPand wick benefits.
And there was somebody that Iwas talking to who was a retired
employee of ANMED, and um, youknow, and he was saying, you
know, that he needed to dosomething because he wasn't
going to get his benefits.
And that led to a conversationback at the hospital uh that
last week that uh we havesomething called the Employee
Financial Assistance Fund.

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Every donor or every employee ofANMED is eligible for a up to a
$1,000 grant due to a financialcrisis due to no fault of their
own.
And there's there's there'smitigating factors that we have
on a matrix to to test that, andthey've got to verify it in many
ways.
But um SNAP and WIC benefitsending because the government
should certainly not anyone'sfault.

(39:26):
We said what what can we do torelax these requirements?
Because you've only got to bethere for a year, you've got to
be in good standing and someother things.
And with our executive team, wemade a recommendation to our
trustees, and we relaxed thoserules that anybody working at
ANMED, full-time, part-time,PRN, even on FMLA, contract
workers, if your SNAP or WICbenefits were interrupted, we

(39:49):
were gonna match you dollar fordollar.
And uh we didn't know what kindof expectation, what kind of
retirement, what what kind ofyou know, requests we were gonna
have.
With uh 4,500 employees, we wereanticipating about a at least a
hundred is what the kind of ourour our estimation was gonna be.
And we were expecting probablyabout nine hundred dollars per
person.
And we decided that we weregonna do fifty percent at a

(40:11):
time, so you know, the first ofthe month, and then wait to see
what happened and then do theother fifty percent.
But the average uh snap benefitwas four hundred dollars.
And and to meet a somebody, andit wasn't just your frontline
workers in the cafeteria or oryou know in the uh environmental
services, I mean that that itwas remarkable to me of how many

(40:32):
people.
But they would revealthemselves, we would get it
approved, and our our accountingteam was able to cut a check
that day.
We could get them approved andget a check that day.
We would go pick it up, we wouldtext them, we would go on that
floor or meet them in the lobbyand very quietly give them that
check.
And to see a single mother, youput a$200 check.

SPEAKER_10 (40:54):
Oh, that's huge.

SPEAKER_07 (40:55):
I mean, I can blow two hundred dollars really
quick.
Yes.
Right?
Take that for granted.
But you put that two hundreddollar check in someone's hand
and they go, Groceries.
And they can feed their kids.
They can feed their kids, andand to me that's just dignity.

SPEAKER_10 (41:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (41:10):
And you know, the government opened back up and
we're not collecting thosedollars, we're not verifying
those dollars.
Somebody said, What if theydon't what if they don't do well
with what we're supposed to do?
Hey, the only answer for that'sthe Pearley Gates one day.
That's an issue, right?
Our job is to give.
But all those dollars were givenby our employees, by our
employees, and we have such agreat culture of our employees
that give, I mean, healthcareworkers in general got to care

(41:30):
about people.
Um we have 66% of our employeesthat give to the ANMED
Foundation across about 54 fundsthat are specialized service
lines, that are employeeassistance, whatever their
interest is, where their impactis.
The average giving of healthcarephilanthropy employees is 24%.
Oh my god.
And I'm not saying that we'renot bragging.
I think it's part of the culturethat we live in.

(41:51):
It's a great area that peoplewant to give.
But the number one reason whysomeone gives to anything or
volunteers is because they'reinvited.
And I think that's where thatkey of that philosophy is.
That how do you get gainconfidence?
It's the invitation.
Would you like to get involved?
How could you make a difference?
And do something meaningful.
And meaningful means differentthings to different people.

(42:13):
And to be able to be at thatcrux of being able to represent
them uh was really gonna be whenI look back, I know that that
was a watershed moment that'sgonna be a highlight of my my
career of what we were able todo.
All in said, that we helped 35people, two people with WIC, and
our full distribution was eleventhousand dollars.
How cool the dollar amount wasnot that much, but the impact,

(42:35):
there were people at otherhealth systems that we were
getting feedback from.
I heard what you all are doing,and that's awesome.
And it's just people taking careof people.

SPEAKER_10 (42:42):
That's right.
Very cool.

SPEAKER_08 (42:45):
If people want to know more about the AMMed
Foundation, how can they dothat?

SPEAKER_07 (42:48):
Well, you can go to anmed.org and top right corner
of the website, you can see abutton that says give now.
You can learn different things.
Uh, you know, one of the ourmain events that we have
annually is called the CamelliaBall, and you can go to
Camelliaball.com.
It's our annual Gala event thatshowcases different uh strategic
priorities.
Uh this year in 2025, we focusedon expansion of our pediatrics

(43:11):
and children's services.
Uh one, just those pediatric uhpediatricians just go see the
doctor.
Uh ANMED, we've hired two newneonatologists, and so we have a
NICU now at ANMED that we didnot have that.
Our donors are helping what fundthat.
Uh this next year we're gonna befocusing on oncology and
expansion of uh cancer services.
And um, so if people want to getinvolved from that standpoint,

(43:33):
but when you go go to anmed.organd you go to the ANMED
Foundation section, uh, you canlearn a lot about it.
Or, hey, listen, you can justcall Tim self at 864-245-7008.

SPEAKER_08 (43:45):
All right, we're gonna have some more with Tim
coming up.
Believe it or not, we're alreadythree-quarters of the way
through our hour.
Uh that's flying by, but we'regonna talk about a few things in
the news and get Tim'srecommendations for
entertainment and food that'scoming up on the Boon Show, my
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I'm back on the boon show on MyPulse Radio with Tim
Self, the executive director ofthe AMEV Foundation.
Uh did a survey today uh justfor you, Tim, because I want to
do something health related foruh my uh sophomore class this
morning.
We always do some kind ofdiscussion question to get
things started.

(46:57):
So I asked them, and you cancomment on this, and Holly, you
obviously see a lot of this uhwith seeing all these kids all
the time.
Top teen health issues accordingto them.
Um and number one, by far, whatdo you think it was?
Restate the question.

(47:18):
Okay, I asked them what theythought the top teen health
issues are.
I hate to say it, but suicide.
Believe it or not, that wasn'ton the list.
How about sleep?
But something that could lead tostress?
Yeah, we'll get sleep was numberthree.

SPEAKER_10 (47:38):
Okay.

SPEAKER_08 (47:38):
Sleep was number three.

SPEAKER_10 (47:40):
How about vape?

SPEAKER_08 (47:41):
Vaping was number two.
You need to go in family feud.
Was it six, seven?
There were a bunch that wereafter the top three, like uh
attention span stuff, yeah,ADHD, eating disorders, body
disorder.
Right, right.
Self-esteem was in there thatcould lead to further problems

(48:02):
because of self-esteem,bullying, and everything that
goes into number one.
They said this themselves mentalhealth.
Mental health mental health.
Mental health, depression,anxiety, uh genetic reasons for
mental health issues.

SPEAKER_10 (48:17):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 (48:18):
Uh almost half the class, one short of half the
class gave mental health as thenumber one health issue with
teenagers nowadays.
And you know, what uh what arethe health systems that you're
familiar with uh doing aboutsome of those things?

SPEAKER_07 (48:36):
So, you know, we had an expansion of our behavioral
health center four years ago,and uh we had a uh expansion of
our adult and then ourgeriatrics service.
So one, I think COVID diddestigmatize to some degree, or
maybe not destigmatize, butallow people the the safe space
to say, hey, I need help, andalso for me to approach, uh you

(48:57):
okay?
Yeah, what can I do?
And that demonstration.
Um, you know, there's a growthof other mental health resources
that are growing in ourcommunity.
Uh there's another center beingbuilt uh that's gonna have an
adolescent center inPattersville, uh as a matter of
fact.
Um but but you know, butultimately I think that
regardless of whatever kind offacilities, because facilita

(49:18):
somebody going to facility isnot necessarily help.
That that's crisis intervention,right?
It's how do how do we get how dowe have some sort of a
interaction, not evenintervention, but an interaction
for people to have resourcesbefore it escalates before it
gets to that.
I know that the United Way ofAnderson County has been doing
what's called uh doing going todifferent agencies and teaching

(49:38):
a course called uh mental healthfirst aid.
So just like our scouts, we getfirst aid training and how to do
bumps and bruises and scratches.
But there's um but but there'ssome community training now and
and mental health first aidabout recognizing uh how do we
how do we uh acknowledge people,how do we get them help
sometimes that that we're thatwe're not enabling, and I don't
know where those balances aresometimes until we too late.

(50:01):
But I think that that's somethings that but ultimately I
think the biggest thing ispeople are more open to what
that means.

SPEAKER_10 (50:07):
And I think our students being aware that that
is an issue is huge.
To be aware that you know what,my friend right here, fifty
percent, might need it, and thefriend next to me if I don't.
Right.
So them just being aware of itand being able to talk about it,
I think is huge.
Because ten years ago would wehave necessarily done that?

SPEAKER_07 (50:27):
Oh, we said pull your nine together.
Pull yourself to pull ittogether, right?
I mean it's you know, be thatrocket that's putting itself
together, just you know,rejuvenate.
But but but you know, but Ithink there's you know there's a
lot of conversation as a scoutleader going through some
training about uh young people,I think COVID had an effect on
it, about coping skills, justsome coping skills.
How do we how do we how do wedevelop some uh mental

(50:48):
resilience and also perspective,helping build some perspective
on uh what are we worried about?
Just past week we did somethingat our church youth group.
It was a conversation on stressand how do we how do uh what are
some ways that can help us notjust cope but also to manage
that before it becomes distress.
And agreeing that str all stressis not bad, right?
Right.
Stress is what tells me to getup and get out of the building

(51:11):
if the fire alarm comes on.

SPEAKER_10 (51:12):
Right.

SPEAKER_07 (51:12):
Right?
Right.
But you know, it's uh stresscauses us to get to work on that
project or study for that testthat we're saying, but how but
that it doesn't become allconsuming, right?

SPEAKER_10 (51:22):
And that it's it's it's okay to talk about it.
Like it's okay to talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 (51:28):
I feel like a lot of people don't like talking about
it because they don't know whoto talk to.
Like I have a lot of people thatcome to me about their issues
and stuff, but whenever somebodyelse like um they'll come to me
about their issues and thenthey'll try to go to somebody
else about it and they won'tlisten to them, but they'll tell
them their problems.
Like they just don't know who togo to.

SPEAKER_07 (51:48):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (51:49):
Awareness.

SPEAKER_07 (51:54):
Daddy, I don't need you to do it for me.
I need you to let me learn formyself.
So where is that where's thatbalance you would think with
your peers of having someonethat you can trust to share with
and that line of, hey, I don'tneed you to fix it, I don't need
you to tell me what to do.
What would you say to that?

SPEAKER_03 (52:10):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 (52:11):
You don't know?
But is that true with my what my13-year-old says?
Is that yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (52:18):
And that's that's and you know, her answer is why
we gotta talk more, uh, make ourown selves available and they
need to talk to them, their ownpeople, like you said, only the
same row of kids might have twopeople struggling with it on
average.
That's that's the fifty percent.
So and I think it has become alot uh bigger since COVID.

SPEAKER_10 (52:38):
So you got education, you've got awareness,
and you gotta have some type ofway that a comfortableness from
a student to say, I need it, orI've got issues or whatever.
However, you right to admit it.

SPEAKER_07 (52:52):
Hey, we're dealing with it in healthcare.
I mean, doctors, I mean they'recalling it.
They're calling it you knowCOVID P PTSD, nurses, you know,
they're having COVID PTSD.
And that because that wedemonstrated what we were able
to do to rise to that occasion,and that level of service has
not changed.
And they you know they have a ttendency to internalize.
Yeah.
A lot of all of us dointernalize, but eventually,

(53:15):
it's like a soda can.
If you shake it up long enough,guess what's gonna happen?
Yeah, it's gonna pop.

SPEAKER_08 (53:20):
It's gonna pop.

SPEAKER_09 (53:21):
That's right.

SPEAKER_08 (53:21):
Yeah.
I refer back, and uh the lasttime we had a medical
conversation, I referred to thepit on TV.
Have you watched that, Tim?
I have not.
Uh that's I'm familiar with it,but I've not watched it.
They they address a lot of PTSDamong doctors and such on that
that program.
So uh all right, before we wrapthings up, we always get the
guest recommendations.
Can I get hollow uh not Holly,she doesn't produce stuff.

(53:43):
Danica does.
You need to produce like somemusic or something.
The guest recommendations.
All right, because this is whereselfishly I get a lot of uh
ideas too of things to watch andand and things to eat, places to
go.
So uh two areas, Tim.

(54:05):
First one, entertainment.
Do you have something you canrecommend to our listeners that
uh they can binge a movie theycan go to or watch on TV,
whatever, um a book to read,anything, anything entertainment
related.

SPEAKER_07 (54:18):
So there's a new series on Netflix about James
Garfield.
And it is talking aboutlightning, something like
Lightning doesn't strikesomething with lightning.
Right.

SPEAKER_10 (54:28):
I know.
I saw it pop up this morning,actually.

SPEAKER_07 (54:30):
It's only four or five episodes.

SPEAKER_10 (54:31):
Yep.

SPEAKER_07 (54:32):
And yes, I binged it.
So I went to binged it.
Well, it's it's uh I would saythat's very enlightening because
they called uh uh he and uhJames Garfield and um see I
can't even recall the nextpresident, but they were called
the Forgotten Presidents.

SPEAKER_09 (54:47):
Okay.

SPEAKER_07 (54:47):
But it's it's it's a good story.

SPEAKER_08 (54:49):
And that's brand new, easy to find on Netflix.
All right.
And uh what about a restaurant,place to eat, specific dish,
whatever?
You know, our family lovessushi.

SPEAKER_07 (55:01):
And Maki.
Maki is killing it in Anderson.
In fact, you know, they're gonnaopen up that, they're expanding.
Oh in fact, I think today atlunch they opened up like their
new uh two buildings over,they've expanded.
And so that you know, what I myfavorite role is the Electric
City roll with fresh slicedjalapenos on it.

(55:23):
Oh yeah, not chunked, sliced,then sliced jalapenos.
And also my friend TimothyClardy that I referred to
earlier, says they've got thebest dessert in downtown.
Now, I don't think it's thebest, but I'll call it the most
unique.

SPEAKER_10 (55:37):
What is the dessert?

SPEAKER_07 (55:38):
It's a fried cheesecake.

SPEAKER_10 (55:40):
Oh it sounds fantastic.

SPEAKER_07 (55:43):
I mean, it's one of those you can only eat like once
every two years, but it's prettygood.
It's real good.

SPEAKER_10 (55:47):
So, what's in your role that you like, the Electric
City roll?

SPEAKER_07 (55:50):
So it has tuna, uh so it's uh Shoshimi tuna.
Uh it has some um I don't knowwhat's in it.
It's just good.
I don't know.
It just tastes good.
There's certainly some avocadoin it.
There's some avocado that thatthat's in it.
Um I think there's some shrimp.
But it's just it's just good.
It's good.

SPEAKER_08 (56:10):
Yeah.
All right.
Um looks like I've just lookedit up while you were talking
about sushi.
Death by lightning, the life,assassination, and aftermath of
U.S.
President James A.
Garfield.
All right.
And um, let's see.
Um okay.
It didn't say who the otherpresident was, but it says the
his assassin, Charles Gateau anduh and Garfield, the two main

(56:33):
stars that uh in that movie playthose characters.
Yeah.
Mental health.
Mental health.

SPEAKER_07 (56:38):
We can talk about mental health.
Because it was it was an issueof mental health with somebody.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (56:42):
Got him.

SPEAKER_07 (56:42):
Yeah, no doubt.
Um, what are you doing forThanksgiving?
So we're uh heading toTennessee.

SPEAKER_08 (56:47):
Going home.
Going hiking this.

SPEAKER_07 (56:49):
You know, it's funny you say home.
A couple years ago, I told youabout breakfast with my mom at
the Greenback Diner.
Uh she has breakfast with one ofher old teacher friends, and she
said, You know, Timothy, whenare you moving home?
They call me Timothy back inback in town.
When are you moving back to townback home?
And my mother cut me off and shesays, He is home.
This is home now.
I mean, Anderson's been good tous.

(57:10):
This our children don't know itreally do not have any
awareness.
They were born in Tennessee.
But um they uh but you know,this is home now.
So we're going back to Tennesseeto visit family.
Uh both gonna see my in-laws,and then we're gonna do
something a little different.
We're gonna go to MiddleTennessee, not far from Far Fall
Creek Falls, to a town calledHillsborough.

SPEAKER_09 (57:30):
Okay.

SPEAKER_07 (57:30):
And some friends of ours have a farm, an old f uh
farm, um, Century Farm, and theyget together, and so we're gonna
do some uh clay shooting, uhsome football watching, uh
riding on a mule.
Uh now that's one of thosemotorized mule, not a not an
actual mule.
Yeah.
But you know, but but but we'rejust gonna be out, we're gonna
be outside.
It's gonna be great weather, itlooks like, this next week.

(57:51):
So amazing weather.
Right?
And just uh hopefully we'll bewhere there's no cell phone
service so that way we can putyou know, otherwise it's put our
phones down so we can betogether.

SPEAKER_08 (57:59):
That's awesome.
That sounds uh just aboutperfect.
Um before I ask the other twowhat they're doing.
Um one other question.
You mentioned your your onechild, Ramsey, who's named after
a place, right?
It's close.

SPEAKER_07 (58:12):
My my grandfather's name was Creed Ramsey.
Oh, so that's both Kids.
So they both they both carry thename, that's correct.
And uh that was my mother'sfather.
Okay and so and I've got acousin who's in the Air Force
stationed in Charleston, whosename is Creed Ramsey.
And so uh he was a pretty coolguy.

SPEAKER_08 (58:31):
Oh, okay.
And what was the place that youmentioned that was Ramsey at
Ramsey's?

SPEAKER_07 (58:35):
Ramsey Cascades that's in the Greenbrier area on
the kind of behind theGatlinburg area, Cosby area of
the Great Smoky MountainNational.

SPEAKER_08 (58:43):
Um I was afraid you would name uh Creed after the
the band.

SPEAKER_07 (58:47):
Ah sometimes I get sometimes I get Apollo Creed,
you know, from Rocky.
Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_08 (58:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 (58:52):
And then there's a there's a character, you know,
on Office.
On the Office, his name wasCreed.
His name is Creed.

SPEAKER_08 (58:58):
I mean he didn't it wasn't just his stage name, his
name is Creed.
So well, they're very they'recool names.

SPEAKER_09 (59:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 (59:04):
Um and it's I always like to hear how people get
their names.
Yeah.
I'm just named John, so it'spretty cool.
People don't ask me, where'd youget your name?
Well, there's only three billionother people named that back in
my day.

SPEAKER_07 (59:16):
But uh well, and they carry both of their grand
other grandparents' middlenames.
So Ramsey has a double, goodsouthern double middle name,
Ramsey, Mae Susanna self.
Wow, and Creed is Creed Murphyself, which is her dad's uh
father, and uh both of them wereWorld War II, uh sorry uh World
War II veterans.
One was in the Pacific, soRobert Murphy was in the

(59:36):
Pacific.
Uh her other grandfather, uhBlaine uh Ernest Blaine, who
we've got a nephew who's namednamed after him, was in the in
Europe, and then the two m uhgrandmothers on her side.

SPEAKER_08 (59:47):
So Wow, very honorable names.
Yeah.
Polly, what are you doing forThanksgiving?

SPEAKER_10 (59:52):
Uh, like we do every year, uh, everybody's coming to
the house.
Um, our oldest is coming fromAlabama with our new grandbaby.
So we'll be able to see him anduh of course Eliana's coming
too.
She's turning five next week, sowe'll be able to see both of
them.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:07):
So um it's all that picture of you with that.
Oh my gosh.
It's different seeing you as agrandmother.

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:12):
It's so different.
It's so awesome.

SPEAKER_07 (01:00:14):
How do your kids treat you?
Because I tell my kids all thetime that I'm gonna be a much
more fun papa than I am as aparent.

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:20):
I am I am Eliana's best friend.
In fact, I got a text thismorning from Carrie that said
Eliana was making you a picturebecause she wanted to make her
best friend a picture.
I am RBF actually.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:31):
What does she call you?

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:32):
Lolly.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:33):
Lolly.
Lolly.
Oh, that's cute.

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:36):
And I guess once your grandchild the first
grandchild calls you, whateveryou're gonna call you, that's
what I'll be.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:43):
Yep, for all of them.
Yeah.
What are you doing, Danica?

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:46):
Uh I don't know.
I think we're going to mygrandma's where she lives.
In Greenwood.

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:51):
Oh, okay.
So not far away.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:52):
What you doing, John?

SPEAKER_08 (01:00:53):
I'm going to Ohio to see my mom.
Yeah.
Recently she had uh twodifferent heart attacks.
One was more serious than theother.
And uh but she's fought her wayback, and so I haven't seen her
in a couple of years.
So I'm gonna go up there and seeher.
Well, there you go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So looking forward to that.
Tim, thanks so much for uhjoining us.
Thank you.

(01:01:13):
We will have time now that we'vegotten to know you and
everything we do.
Next time you come on, we'rejust gonna have a blast.
Hey, listen.
And you're gonna tell somestories about Holly, because I
know you have to I'll just letyou two do.

SPEAKER_09 (01:01:26):
We'll get those.

SPEAKER_08 (01:01:27):
If we promote that, listen, if you were ship, I
bet's gonna go.
Okay.
All right, we'll hey we'll doit.
We'll get out the giant boxinggloves and everything.
Um but our thanks to uh Tim Selffrom the MF Foundation, the
executive director there.
And uh of course, as always,Holly and Danica couldn't have
Zach because of our phoneissues.
But uh, after the holidays.

(01:01:48):
Excellent, excellent.
The Holidays.

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Holidays.

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