October 1, 2025 • 13 mins
Pressure has a way of telling the truth about who we are becoming. Today I take a solo dive into transformation—why it’s slow, why it hurts, and why it’s worth every step—through the surprising arc of Moses: from hidden child to royal student, from fugitive to shepherd, from reluctant messenger to the lawgiver who helps reshape a nation. Along the way, we look at Pharaoh’s hardened heart, Israel’s fragile trust, and the uncomfortable fact that resistance forms us too.
We get practical and honest about forgiveness as the engine of change. Forgiveness doesn’t excuse harm; it releases its grip so our future isn’t chained to our past. I share how reframing pain can reveal the strengths it produced, and why boundaries, truth, and mercy can coexist. We also talk about Scripture not as a book to finish, but a craftsman that finishes us—how repeated reading polishes rough edges, how stories like Jacob and Paul keep teaching new lessons, and how the Bible shapes our minds and habits over time.
If you’ve ever felt distant from God, we spend time there too. Prayer can feel thin, worship can feel flat—but serving others can reignite what’s gone cold. Catch the light in someone’s eyes when grace lands and remember your own testimony; memory becomes fuel for faith. From facing giants to moving forward through pressure, this conversation is an invitation to trust God’s presence in the process and see how one transformed life can ripple outward. If the message resonates, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review—then tell me where you’re seeing transformation begin.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:02):
Welcome to the Boundless Bible.
My name is David Shapiro.
Hey, I'm Javi Marquez.
And I'm Jason Holloway.
Hi, and welcome to the BoundlessBible.
If you notice, I'm alone today.
Javi and Jason are off for twoweeks, but we wanted to continue
uh having a conversation withyou.
And today I'm really excited tobring the subject of
(00:23):
transformation to you.
And when I think oftransformation, I think of a
couple of different things.
Obviously, we know about thecaterpillar and butterfly.
We've heard that.
We've heard a seed that turnsinto a tree.
There's a lot of things we thinkabout transformation, but one of
the ones that really resonatesthe most for me is coal when it
transforms into a diamond.
And when you think about coal,it's, you know, it's dirty, it's
(00:46):
something that you don't look,but doesn't look very
impressive.
And then over time and pressure,this turns into a diamond.
And then I start thinking aboutour own lives.
And transformation for our ownlives sometimes takes a bit of
time and a lot of pressure.
And although we don'tnecessarily love the process,
what comes out of it issomething absolutely beautiful
and better than we can evenimagine.
(01:07):
And so when I talk abouttransformation and I talk about
the transformation that all ofus go through, one of the
stories from the Bible I look atis the story of Moses and his
transformation.
And the transformation beginsfrom the time he was a baby.
He was transformed from, youknow, a Jewish slave who should
have been killed into somebodywho is taught by the Egyptians
(01:29):
in the Egyptian court, Egyptianschools, learned the Egyptian
way and was transformed in thatway.
And then transformed quicklyback when he realized something
didn't feel right, and he saw anEgyptian beating a slave, a
Hebrew slave, you know, hekilled that Egyptian and
transforms instantly into amurderer and then ran away,
feared the repercussions fromPharaoh and ran away and
(01:53):
transformed again.
And then he's in the desert for40 years and not wandering
around, but he's actually, whenhe goes into the desert, he
becomes a shepherd and he'sshepherding sheep in Midiah for
40 years.
And when you start to look atthe word 40 in Hebrew, it means
transformation.
It represents transformation.
(02:13):
If you look at the 40 days thatJesus had to face Satan, or if
you look at the 40 years ofreign from Noah, and now it's 40
years of uh Moses' time inMidiah, but this transformation
time is him training.
He's training to be a shepherdfor sheep.
He's training how to take careof his sheep and lead them.
(02:34):
And that's exactly what he'sgoing to do with the Israelites.
Uh, but first he goes up to themountain, and when he's on the
top of Mount Sinai, he he goesface to face with God.
And God again sends him back totransform him, and he refuses.
He says, I'm not ready.
I don't speak well, it's notwhat I can do.
And God says, I'll go with you.
I'm even going to give you Aaronto speak for you.
(02:55):
And through this transformation,God is with him, guiding him
through it.
It wasn't easy, but he was therewith him.
And it's really interestingbecause what happens is God had
been transforming Moses for solong that when he sent him back
to Egypt, he was going totransform an entire nation.
So God not only uses ourtransformations for us,
(03:15):
sometimes it can transform ahuge nation.
And I think that's kind of wherethat saying comes from, where if
you said, hey, an idea canchange the world, or one person
matters and they can change theworld.
This is Moses, that one personwho the transformation through
God literally was able totransform the nation of Israel.
And when he's there, you startto see the transformation of the
(03:39):
Pharaoh who is his heart beinghardened, and he's hardening his
own heart.
And this is a transformationthat he's going through.
And Moses becomes more and moresure of God and his direction
for him, and he's going throughthat transformation.
Even the Israelites are startingto believe more, and they're
going through a transformation.
And then finally, when you startto look at uh the next part of
(03:59):
the story, this is where it getsreally, really interesting.
Is after they leave Egypt, whenMoses is then going up on the
mountain to get the laws, one ofthe greatest transformations I
see is this is a murderer.
This is somebody who murderedsomebody who ran away out of
fear of being punished, and nowhe's the lawgiver.
Talk about a transformation.
(04:20):
I mean, this is such a massivestory of how somebody can
transform from somebody whocommitted a crime to somebody
who is giving the law.
I absolutely love that inExodus.
And through that, there's someother things I look at for
transformation, one of thembeing forgiveness.
And forgiveness causes anenormous amount of
transformation, but definitelynot an easy thing to do.
(04:43):
And if I look at that, you know,God had to forgive Moses for the
murder that he committed andstill bring him through what he
had to go through training inorder to release the Israelites.
But the forgiveness part wasvery hard.
And when you look at people ingeneral, forgiveness leads to
the transformation, but theydon't understand about
(05:05):
forgiveness.
And I hear people all the timesaying, you know, I don't
understand how forgiveness, ifit's if it's for me, it doesn't
feel good.
You know, I don't want toforgive that other person.
And they hear, well, if you doforgive, that it's ultimately
for you, but I'm going, if it'sfor me and I don't want to
forgive, I'm not sure what thepurpose is.
And so they curse whoever mighthave actually caused them some
(05:28):
pain.
When you're not forgiving ofsomebody, usually it's because
they're in close proximity withwho you are.
They could be a family member,they could be a loved one, and
they really hurt you.
And it becomes very hard toforgive.
And I also think that, you know,for that transformation, there
needs to be a purpose.
You know, that that coal needsto go through enormous pressure
to become a diamond.
(05:48):
You need to go through thatpressure, that that pain of
forgiveness for purpose.
And when I look at it, I look atit a different way.
So if you look at forgiveness,you're saying, I don't want to
forgive this person because theyhurt me, which turned me into X.
And that's why I'm this waybecause of them.
And because of that, I don'twant to forgive them.
(06:09):
So now I have something in mypast and it's hurting my future.
But what you don't realize isthat pain that you went through
also changed you for the better.
So all the things you're goingthrough that are good, the
things that you've turned intoare for that positive reason.
So you had to go through thatnot only for the bad and to feel
that, but to also feel the good.
So when you are cursing somebodyor forgiving them, they're
(06:31):
equally as important becausethey equally turned into, you
know, had to do with who you aretoday.
So it's very important that if Iend up forgiving somebody, that
I realize that, hey, listen, ithurt.
I don't have to put myself inthe situation again, but this
transformation is that way so Ican understand that what they
put me through, yes, gave mesome bad, but also made me who I
(06:53):
was, which is really good andpositive.
And I love that.
I love that God sometimes putsyou through some pain because he
knows on the other side is goingto be this enormous, wonderful
moment where you're going to bea diamond, you're going to be
able to shine.
So I just wanted to really touchon that with transformation.
And then we also hear thingsabout transforming, such as, you
(07:14):
know, you transform through theword of God.
And, you know, this can't beunderstated enough.
Us being called the BoundlessBible is a reason.
You know, the Bible is such abeautiful book, but it's not
just a book that you read.
You know, you just want to, hey,I'm reading the Bible until it's
finished.
Really, the Bible finishes you.
It takes you and it and itsmooths you out and it finishes
(07:36):
who you are and who you'llbecome.
And when you read that, youstart to learn that the
transformation you'll start toget through the Bible and the
stories of the Bible, you you'veheard us.
Whether you take it literally,well, whether you take it
symbolically, uh, really has alesson for all of us in there.
And what's amazing is this bookis not for us as far as, hey,
what's the Bible about?
(07:56):
It's about me.
No, it's about God.
It's his book, it's histestimony, but it also works
because it can it can work on meby polishing me and making me
into a better person that Godcreated me to be.
I can be better to my fellowperson, I can honor God better.
This is what the Bible is therefor as well.
(08:16):
And I think it's reallyimportant that when we read the
Bible, we realize that thetransformation is gonna continue
to happen.
And if you read it more, there'sgonna be more transformation.
So sometimes people read it onetime, they go, okay, I
understand.
I read the Bible and that's it.
No, keep going.
Because when you read it again,you'll find that it transforms
you even more and a little bitmore and a little bit more.
(08:38):
And you just keep polishing awaydifferent things that the Bible
is gonna teach you and show you.
And uh, that's part of what Ireally love about the Bible is
it it keeps presenting differentthings to me every time.
If you look at thetransformation stories
throughout the Bible, you canlook at Jacob, you can look at
Saul who became Paul.
Man, there's some amazingtransformation stories in the
(08:59):
Bible.
And the great thing is we're notthat far removed from it.
We are the still the same peoplethat are written about in the
Bible.
Yes, we are still sinful.
Yes, we are still capable ofmurder, but we're also capable
of helping an entire nation.
We're capable of transforminginto somebody who will follow,
follow God's lead even whenwe're scared.
(09:20):
Uh recently we just did anepisode on David and Goliath,
and we talked about facing yourgiants.
And man, you know, there aretimes where that giant seems so
massive that you don't want toface them.
But how's the transformationgonna happen unless you trust
God, have faith in his word, andmove forward?
You know, it reminds me of uhwhen I was in the military, one
(09:41):
of the things they talked aboutwas to keep moving forward.
It's something that is near anddear to their heart.
Is yes, there's gonna be timeswhere you're gonna be sad,
you're gonna be in toughbattles, you might even lose
somebody really close to you,but you have to keep moving
forward, even if you're staysad, even if you're scared, just
keep going forward.
And there's something about thetransformation that, yes, you
(10:03):
want to stop.
While you're feeling all thatpressure, while you're that
piece of coal turning intodiamond, there's that moment
where you go, I just want togive up.
I want to stop this process.
It's painful, it hurts, it's toomuch pressure.
And if you just keep going, man,what a beautiful diamond you'll
be.
And it's not a prideful thing.
This is not, I'm a diamondbecause I'm the best.
(10:24):
It's a I'm a diamond because Godtransformed me into what He
created me to be.
And that's the most beautifulthing.
The last thing I want to talkabout with transformation is
there are times when we'realready transformed.
I've already accepted Jesus,I've already read the Bible, I
understand the stories, and thenI start to feel a little bit
distant.
And I'm going, okay, you know,I'm transforming the other way.
(10:46):
I'm I'm starting to lose my hopeand faith in Jesus.
And I'm gonna tell you somethingthat, you know, helps me
sometimes.
And I heard all of the differentanswers that you get.
Sometimes you get them in churchand you go, all right, you have
to pray more, which I agree.
You have to read the scripturesmore, which I agree.
But sometimes that's nothelping.
(11:06):
And you listen to the worshipmusic and you're you're just
struggling to move forward andyou're struggling to maybe even
believe, and you're going, Idon't know what's happening, but
I'm I'm actually transformingthe opposite way away from
Jesus.
And that makes me very nervous.
I will tell you that this is amoment where what really helps
me is serving.
(11:27):
If you serve, it is incredible.
And and I always think aboutthis is when you're a waiter and
you're supposed to be waiting onpeople, you're actually serving
them.
So while you're in a waitingperiod, serve.
As a waiter, serve.
You're gonna always feel better.
But even more than that, if I'mnot serving and I'm not feeling
God around, what I can start todo is look at the eyes of other
(11:50):
people around me, look at thelife that goes into them when
they first discover Jesus, whenthey first get baptized, when
they accept Jesus for the firsttime.
Just look in their eyes.
Look in the eyes of a child whois full of wonder of Jesus and
gets baptized and comes back outof the water, or somebody who
has been struggling withsomething for years and gets
baptized and comes out of thewater and filled with the Holy
(12:13):
Spirit.
Look in their eyes and just seejust how amazing it really is.
And that'll help you go, youknow what?
This is real.
This is true.
I have all the logical factsthat say it.
I have all the things that I'veread in the Bible that I
believe.
I know there's a God, but now Isee him and I feel him and I
know him.
And it's just the mostincredible thing.
(12:34):
And it's hard sometimes.
You lose that feeling that youhave yourself, but try to hold
on to that.
Try to remember what that feltlike for the first time when you
came out.
Try to think about yourtestimony.
It's something that will neverget taken away from you.
Your testimony will be therewith you forever.
So when you don't have theanswers and you don't have the
facts, and you're saying, youknow, I know I heard this
(12:54):
somewhere, but this seems likemaybe I was wrong and maybe
there is no God there.
Remember your testimony and whathe's already brought you out of.
That transformation will happenas well.
And just sit back and go, youknow what?
God, you were good.
You were good to me.
You're good to my loved ones.
Yeah, I went through somepressure.
I went through some times thathad to turn that coal into
(13:15):
diamond, but you've always comethrough for me.
And at that moment, when youlook in somebody else's eyes and
you see that same testimony thatwas inside of you, everything
will change.
You'll start to transform backto just that wonderful,
God-loving person that you werecreated to be, full of reverence
and love for the Lord, just likehe's full of love for you.
(13:37):
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Bye.
Welcome to the Boundless Bible.
My name is David Shapiro.
Hey, I'm Javi Marquez.
And I'm Jason Holloway.
Hi, and welcome to the BoundlessBible.
If you notice, I'm alone today.
Javi and Jason are off for twoweeks, but we wanted to continue
uh having a conversation withyou.
And today I'm really excited tobring the subject of
(00:23):
transformation to you.
And when I think oftransformation, I think of a
couple of different things.
Obviously, we know about thecaterpillar and butterfly.
We've heard that.
We've heard a seed that turnsinto a tree.
There's a lot of things we thinkabout transformation, but one of
the ones that really resonatesthe most for me is coal when it
transforms into a diamond.
And when you think about coal,it's, you know, it's dirty, it's
(00:46):
something that you don't look,but doesn't look very
impressive.
And then over time and pressure,this turns into a diamond.
And then I start thinking aboutour own lives.
And transformation for our ownlives sometimes takes a bit of
time and a lot of pressure.
And although we don'tnecessarily love the process,
what comes out of it issomething absolutely beautiful
and better than we can evenimagine.
(01:07):
And so when I talk abouttransformation and I talk about
the transformation that all ofus go through, one of the
stories from the Bible I look atis the story of Moses and his
transformation.
And the transformation beginsfrom the time he was a baby.
He was transformed from, youknow, a Jewish slave who should
have been killed into somebodywho is taught by the Egyptians
(01:29):
in the Egyptian court, Egyptianschools, learned the Egyptian
way and was transformed in thatway.
And then transformed quicklyback when he realized something
didn't feel right, and he saw anEgyptian beating a slave, a
Hebrew slave, you know, hekilled that Egyptian and
transforms instantly into amurderer and then ran away,
feared the repercussions fromPharaoh and ran away and
(01:53):
transformed again.
And then he's in the desert for40 years and not wandering
around, but he's actually, whenhe goes into the desert, he
becomes a shepherd and he'sshepherding sheep in Midiah for
40 years.
And when you start to look atthe word 40 in Hebrew, it means
transformation.
It represents transformation.
(02:13):
If you look at the 40 days thatJesus had to face Satan, or if
you look at the 40 years ofreign from Noah, and now it's 40
years of uh Moses' time inMidiah, but this transformation
time is him training.
He's training to be a shepherdfor sheep.
He's training how to take careof his sheep and lead them.
(02:34):
And that's exactly what he'sgoing to do with the Israelites.
Uh, but first he goes up to themountain, and when he's on the
top of Mount Sinai, he he goesface to face with God.
And God again sends him back totransform him, and he refuses.
He says, I'm not ready.
I don't speak well, it's notwhat I can do.
And God says, I'll go with you.
I'm even going to give you Aaronto speak for you.
(02:55):
And through this transformation,God is with him, guiding him
through it.
It wasn't easy, but he was therewith him.
And it's really interestingbecause what happens is God had
been transforming Moses for solong that when he sent him back
to Egypt, he was going totransform an entire nation.
So God not only uses ourtransformations for us,
(03:15):
sometimes it can transform ahuge nation.
And I think that's kind of wherethat saying comes from, where if
you said, hey, an idea canchange the world, or one person
matters and they can change theworld.
This is Moses, that one personwho the transformation through
God literally was able totransform the nation of Israel.
And when he's there, you startto see the transformation of the
(03:39):
Pharaoh who is his heart beinghardened, and he's hardening his
own heart.
And this is a transformationthat he's going through.
And Moses becomes more and moresure of God and his direction
for him, and he's going throughthat transformation.
Even the Israelites are startingto believe more, and they're
going through a transformation.
And then finally, when you startto look at uh the next part of
(03:59):
the story, this is where it getsreally, really interesting.
Is after they leave Egypt, whenMoses is then going up on the
mountain to get the laws, one ofthe greatest transformations I
see is this is a murderer.
This is somebody who murderedsomebody who ran away out of
fear of being punished, and nowhe's the lawgiver.
Talk about a transformation.
(04:20):
I mean, this is such a massivestory of how somebody can
transform from somebody whocommitted a crime to somebody
who is giving the law.
I absolutely love that inExodus.
And through that, there's someother things I look at for
transformation, one of thembeing forgiveness.
And forgiveness causes anenormous amount of
transformation, but definitelynot an easy thing to do.
(04:43):
And if I look at that, you know,God had to forgive Moses for the
murder that he committed andstill bring him through what he
had to go through training inorder to release the Israelites.
But the forgiveness part wasvery hard.
And when you look at people ingeneral, forgiveness leads to
the transformation, but theydon't understand about
(05:05):
forgiveness.
And I hear people all the timesaying, you know, I don't
understand how forgiveness, ifit's if it's for me, it doesn't
feel good.
You know, I don't want toforgive that other person.
And they hear, well, if you doforgive, that it's ultimately
for you, but I'm going, if it'sfor me and I don't want to
forgive, I'm not sure what thepurpose is.
And so they curse whoever mighthave actually caused them some
(05:28):
pain.
When you're not forgiving ofsomebody, usually it's because
they're in close proximity withwho you are.
They could be a family member,they could be a loved one, and
they really hurt you.
And it becomes very hard toforgive.
And I also think that, you know,for that transformation, there
needs to be a purpose.
You know, that that coal needsto go through enormous pressure
to become a diamond.
(05:48):
You need to go through thatpressure, that that pain of
forgiveness for purpose.
And when I look at it, I look atit a different way.
So if you look at forgiveness,you're saying, I don't want to
forgive this person because theyhurt me, which turned me into X.
And that's why I'm this waybecause of them.
And because of that, I don'twant to forgive them.
(06:09):
So now I have something in mypast and it's hurting my future.
But what you don't realize isthat pain that you went through
also changed you for the better.
So all the things you're goingthrough that are good, the
things that you've turned intoare for that positive reason.
So you had to go through thatnot only for the bad and to feel
that, but to also feel the good.
So when you are cursing somebodyor forgiving them, they're
(06:31):
equally as important becausethey equally turned into, you
know, had to do with who you aretoday.
So it's very important that if Iend up forgiving somebody, that
I realize that, hey, listen, ithurt.
I don't have to put myself inthe situation again, but this
transformation is that way so Ican understand that what they
put me through, yes, gave mesome bad, but also made me who I
(06:53):
was, which is really good andpositive.
And I love that.
I love that God sometimes putsyou through some pain because he
knows on the other side is goingto be this enormous, wonderful
moment where you're going to bea diamond, you're going to be
able to shine.
So I just wanted to really touchon that with transformation.
And then we also hear thingsabout transforming, such as, you
(07:14):
know, you transform through theword of God.
And, you know, this can't beunderstated enough.
Us being called the BoundlessBible is a reason.
You know, the Bible is such abeautiful book, but it's not
just a book that you read.
You know, you just want to, hey,I'm reading the Bible until it's
finished.
Really, the Bible finishes you.
It takes you and it and itsmooths you out and it finishes
(07:36):
who you are and who you'llbecome.
And when you read that, youstart to learn that the
transformation you'll start toget through the Bible and the
stories of the Bible, you you'veheard us.
Whether you take it literally,well, whether you take it
symbolically, uh, really has alesson for all of us in there.
And what's amazing is this bookis not for us as far as, hey,
what's the Bible about?
(07:56):
It's about me.
No, it's about God.
It's his book, it's histestimony, but it also works
because it can it can work on meby polishing me and making me
into a better person that Godcreated me to be.
I can be better to my fellowperson, I can honor God better.
This is what the Bible is therefor as well.
(08:16):
And I think it's reallyimportant that when we read the
Bible, we realize that thetransformation is gonna continue
to happen.
And if you read it more, there'sgonna be more transformation.
So sometimes people read it onetime, they go, okay, I
understand.
I read the Bible and that's it.
No, keep going.
Because when you read it again,you'll find that it transforms
you even more and a little bitmore and a little bit more.
(08:38):
And you just keep polishing awaydifferent things that the Bible
is gonna teach you and show you.
And uh, that's part of what Ireally love about the Bible is
it it keeps presenting differentthings to me every time.
If you look at thetransformation stories
throughout the Bible, you canlook at Jacob, you can look at
Saul who became Paul.
Man, there's some amazingtransformation stories in the
(08:59):
Bible.
And the great thing is we're notthat far removed from it.
We are the still the same peoplethat are written about in the
Bible.
Yes, we are still sinful.
Yes, we are still capable ofmurder, but we're also capable
of helping an entire nation.
We're capable of transforminginto somebody who will follow,
follow God's lead even whenwe're scared.
(09:20):
Uh recently we just did anepisode on David and Goliath,
and we talked about facing yourgiants.
And man, you know, there aretimes where that giant seems so
massive that you don't want toface them.
But how's the transformationgonna happen unless you trust
God, have faith in his word, andmove forward?
You know, it reminds me of uhwhen I was in the military, one
(09:41):
of the things they talked aboutwas to keep moving forward.
It's something that is near anddear to their heart.
Is yes, there's gonna be timeswhere you're gonna be sad,
you're gonna be in toughbattles, you might even lose
somebody really close to you,but you have to keep moving
forward, even if you're staysad, even if you're scared, just
keep going forward.
And there's something about thetransformation that, yes, you
(10:03):
want to stop.
While you're feeling all thatpressure, while you're that
piece of coal turning intodiamond, there's that moment
where you go, I just want togive up.
I want to stop this process.
It's painful, it hurts, it's toomuch pressure.
And if you just keep going, man,what a beautiful diamond you'll
be.
And it's not a prideful thing.
This is not, I'm a diamondbecause I'm the best.
(10:24):
It's a I'm a diamond because Godtransformed me into what He
created me to be.
And that's the most beautifulthing.
The last thing I want to talkabout with transformation is
there are times when we'realready transformed.
I've already accepted Jesus,I've already read the Bible, I
understand the stories, and thenI start to feel a little bit
distant.
And I'm going, okay, you know,I'm transforming the other way.
(10:46):
I'm I'm starting to lose my hopeand faith in Jesus.
And I'm gonna tell you somethingthat, you know, helps me
sometimes.
And I heard all of the differentanswers that you get.
Sometimes you get them in churchand you go, all right, you have
to pray more, which I agree.
You have to read the scripturesmore, which I agree.
But sometimes that's nothelping.
(11:06):
And you listen to the worshipmusic and you're you're just
struggling to move forward andyou're struggling to maybe even
believe, and you're going, Idon't know what's happening, but
I'm I'm actually transformingthe opposite way away from
Jesus.
And that makes me very nervous.
I will tell you that this is amoment where what really helps
me is serving.
(11:27):
If you serve, it is incredible.
And and I always think aboutthis is when you're a waiter and
you're supposed to be waiting onpeople, you're actually serving
them.
So while you're in a waitingperiod, serve.
As a waiter, serve.
You're gonna always feel better.
But even more than that, if I'mnot serving and I'm not feeling
God around, what I can start todo is look at the eyes of other
(11:50):
people around me, look at thelife that goes into them when
they first discover Jesus, whenthey first get baptized, when
they accept Jesus for the firsttime.
Just look in their eyes.
Look in the eyes of a child whois full of wonder of Jesus and
gets baptized and comes back outof the water, or somebody who
has been struggling withsomething for years and gets
baptized and comes out of thewater and filled with the Holy
(12:13):
Spirit.
Look in their eyes and just seejust how amazing it really is.
And that'll help you go, youknow what?
This is real.
This is true.
I have all the logical factsthat say it.
I have all the things that I'veread in the Bible that I
believe.
I know there's a God, but now Isee him and I feel him and I
know him.
And it's just the mostincredible thing.
(12:34):
And it's hard sometimes.
You lose that feeling that youhave yourself, but try to hold
on to that.
Try to remember what that feltlike for the first time when you
came out.
Try to think about yourtestimony.
It's something that will neverget taken away from you.
Your testimony will be therewith you forever.
So when you don't have theanswers and you don't have the
facts, and you're saying, youknow, I know I heard this
(12:54):
somewhere, but this seems likemaybe I was wrong and maybe
there is no God there.
Remember your testimony and whathe's already brought you out of.
That transformation will happenas well.
And just sit back and go, youknow what?
God, you were good.
You were good to me.
You're good to my loved ones.
Yeah, I went through somepressure.
I went through some times thathad to turn that coal into
(13:15):
diamond, but you've always comethrough for me.
And at that moment, when youlook in somebody else's eyes and
you see that same testimony thatwas inside of you, everything
will change.
You'll start to transform backto just that wonderful,
God-loving person that you werecreated to be, full of reverence
and love for the Lord, just likehe's full of love for you.
(13:37):
Well, I thank you guys forlistening to me.
If you like this series, youlike the other podcasts that we
do, please like and share.
You can always visit us ontheboundless bible.com.
Look forward to talking to youagain.
Thanks so much.
Bye.
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