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stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (00:00):
Okay.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (00:01):
are
you ready for your trip Stuy?
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (00:02):
Oh
my God.
I was ready on Monday.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (00:06):
No.
Physically packed.
Ready?
Not
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (00:08):
Lord.
No, I won't do that tilltomorrow afternoon no,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (00:12):
Do
you all pack ahead of time?
I mean, obviously you don't stirat this moment, but do you,
Dwayne?
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (00:16):
like
the night
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (00:17):
No,
no, no.
I just threw stuff in.
No,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09071 (00:21):
Every
time we go somewhere, mom's
always like, you know, five daysout.
She's like, well, you packed andready?
I'm like, no.
And I thought originally it wasjust like a saying, right?
Like just saying, oh, are youpacked and ready to go?
Like, you know, and then I'd belike, no, no, I still, I'm not
packed.
I mean, I gotta wash clothes anddo this and that.
And she goes, well, I'd have tobe packed.
(00:42):
And I'm like, we took how manyfamily vacations and I know you
were literally throwing stuff inthe bag when we walked out the
door.
There's no way you'd be packed.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (00:51):
I
mean, three caftans and some
flip flops.
Don't take a long,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (00:56):
she
also wants to know, uh, what
flight, what time, and what day.
And I am lucky to know that whenI'm getting on the plane.
Nonetheless, days ahead of time.
So, I don't know mama, I'll textyou when I'm
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (01:08):
Oh
my gosh.
She's
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09071 (01:20):
Well,
what are we wanting to talk
about today?
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (01:25):
Jobs,
clients, people that make you
happy via Stewart's idea, whichI love.
What are projects for people orthings that you've worked on?
And if it's not correct howyou're proposing it, you tell
us.
But, uh, things that havebrought you joy.
We're bringing everybody elsejoy.
What have they brought to usthat are bringing us joy?
(01:46):
Who's,
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (01:47):
Whoa.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (01:48):
your
special, who's your special
peeps that you've worked withthat were already friends and it
turned into even a betterfriendship?
Or who have you worked with thatwere like, Oh, okay.
And then it evolved into, Oh, Ilike you.
I want you to be in my life.
And I instantly think of, Noellefor, um, Stewart, for example,
(02:09):
right?
I think they were friendly, butas you worked together, it
evolved into much more.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (02:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, and that, that wasactually one of my, one of my
people on that spectrum.
And then I have another personon another spectrum.
So, but she, you know, I'veknown her, um, and her husband,
Sam for, Oh Lord, 20.
(02:37):
Seven ish years, so a very longtime.
And we actually met because wewere on a committee for, um,
Susan G.
Komen.
I was on the design committeeand she was on the social
committee.
So,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (02:51):
is a
social
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (02:52):
uh,
no, and during the first board
meeting, we were talking thewhole time and they had to stop
the board meeting and said, um,if you two are going to do that
every board meeting, you need toseparate.
So We just kind of becameinstant friends from that point,
and did social things together,and then I, you know, through
(03:12):
the years, I have worked on sixof their properties, I believe.
Some of them were rental stuffthat I just kind of suggested
stuff with, but their personalhomes, I worked on three of
those.
Throughout the years.
And, um, the last one I workedon for them was considered their
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retirement home.
And that was about three yearsago.
And in the process I built alittle baby house next to him.
So, so that's how close tofriends we are and
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (03:43):
you
really gotta like him.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (03:45):
Yeah,
I know.
I know.
Which is so funny because whenwe're there, like I'll wave at
him from the porch.
That's about it.
Or if I'm like out of noodles,I'll walk over there and be
like, I need some noodles.
So, you know, you know, there'sa time we do have a drink or two
every now and then, but a lot oftimes we can be there the whole
weekend and not see each other.
(04:06):
And that's okay too.
But, learning her process,because she's also a business
owner, a woman business owner,so she is, um, headstrong in a
very good way.
So when you take that intodesign, uh, even though she
knows I do what I do and I cando it well, she still questions
(04:29):
some things.
So I let her do it, and then sherealizes in a month that it was
wrong.
So I redo it again.
So, um, and I also designed herbusiness too, her Cycle U
business, uh, designed the flowof that and how it looks in the
(04:50):
different studios and thingslike that.
So, um, so yeah, that's, that'sbeen.
ingrained and we're really tightin that way.
And we can still be friends.
And the caveat to that too, isI'm actually her employee as
well, because we've mentionedbefore that I do teach a cycle
fitness class where she ownsthat business.
(05:11):
So when I'm in that buildingnow, she's And I have to listen
to her, but really only 70percent of the time I listen to
her.
So, um, yeah, it's a goodrelationship.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (05:26):
the
joy do you get from her?
What does she bring to you?
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (05:31):
Uh,
she actually, um, brings, I
wouldn't, This is gonna soundawful.
I wouldn't say it's joy per se,but she Brings an insight on
topics of conversation thatmaybe I hadn't thought about so
(05:52):
it makes me think a little bitmore Yeah, okay, so I guess the
end result of that is a moreJoyous demeanor, but making me
think about things certainthings and topics when I've
already made a decision in myhead.
(06:13):
And she's like, well, why don'tyou look at it this way?
So,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (06:17):
She
seems like such a nurturer that
she's always wanted to take careof anybody she's around, and to
make sure that they're, they'rewell taken care of, that, uh,
that they're okay.
I get that vibe from, from
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (06:31):
yeah,
and she
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (06:32):
that
she's,
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (06:33):
Yeah.
Yeah, she does.
Like she picked up Allie theother day to give
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (06:37):
Yeah,
she
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (06:38):
go
take her Manny, Manny
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (06:39):
She's
the person that wants the best
for you.
She truly is happy for yoursuccess and your joy.
She's your gal.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (06:47):
She's
my Gail.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (06:48):
is.
I get that vibe from her.
Yeah.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (06:50):
No,
you
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (06:50):
she
do with Ally the other day?
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (06:52):
I
picked her up from school and
took her to go get Mannypetties.
Just be, just to have a girl'sday.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (06:58):
Cute.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (06:59):
was
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (06:59):
you
know,
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (07:00):
super
fun.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (07:01):
when
we, you know, I made that
comparison as a, as a joke, but,you know, learning about Oprah's
and Gayle's friendship, one ofthe things Oprah says about
Gayle is allegedly, that shehas, there's never been any
jealousy or, whatever.
I doubt that that's 100 percenttrue, but you know, come on.
Um, just because, but She hasalways just been, she's always
(07:23):
celebrated, whatever, right?
Uh, and always been her biggestfan and always excited when
whatever presents itself.
And I thought, what?
And like, what an amazingfriend.
And that's the friend that I'vewanted to become for other
people.
Like there, it's always like myjourney is my journey.
I want to be someone's Gayle.
And I think that that to me ismore fun than being Oprah.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (07:44):
Yeah,
and it's, you're Right.
Right.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09071 (07:47):
Would
I take a bathtub that has the
ass shape carved to fit mine?
Yes.
But,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (07:53):
I
think you are our Gayle.
You
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (07:55):
I
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (07:55):
what?
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (07:55):
to
be gay,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (07:56):
exude
that.
I think you're happy foranything good for us.
Each one of us, I've never feltanything but
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (08:03):
Mm
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (08:04):
joy
and positivity from you that
with anything good happens,you're truly genuinely happy for
each of us.
I think it's true for anybodythat I don't get anything from
you other than you're happy forother people's successes, but
I'm only can speak for myself.
And I know that you're justhappy if something good happens
in my orbit.
And you, you feel it, you know,people are, if you're on your
(08:25):
side or not, you get
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (08:26):
hmm.
Mm hmm.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090 (08:27):
Noelle,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (08:28):
you
Gail
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (08:29):
you
know, her nickname for me is
Bam.
B A M.
So she calls me Bam all thetime.
So she walks in and she'll belike, Hey Bam! Blah blah blah.
Well, that's brother fromanother mother.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (08:40):
Mm
hmm.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (08:40):
Bam.
And that's just what she callsme.
That's just her nickname.
So,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_0906 (08:45):
That's
cute.
That's cute.
Jeremy.
You know who I think of?
I always think of you and yourlittle love fest.
Uh, Jen Rothbauer.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (08:55):
Oh,
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (08:55):
Yes.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (08:57):
she's
your team.
She's your team.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (08:59):
Yes,
Jen.
Jen and I, um, have always saidshe's just a little bit older
than me.
I really don't know how manyyears older, but she's, we
would've not been in school atthe same time.
Um, but we've always, She's you,
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (09:13):
She's
me age.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (09:14):
but
we've always joked that if we
were in high school together, wewould've been arrested together
because we would just get intoevery bit of trouble.
And, she is another one of thoselike ultimate cheerleaders and,
you know, whenever Stuart textedabout an idea for today's
podcast, I really got reallyuncomfortable because I was
like, I, and y'all know thisabout me, like, uh, I'm like,
(09:37):
how do I choose somebody?
Like, cause the way that mybrain took it in was like my,
our favorite, right.
Or our, like
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (09:43):
Oh,
no,
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (09:44):
no.
I think it's a learning,learning tool, not a favorite
person.
It's a
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09071 (09:49):
Yeah,
and I get that I get that now
but at the time I kind of like,you know, stressed out, not
stressed out, but I kind oflike, you know, how do I how do
I do this?
And because honest to God, allof my clients that I am with now
listen, there's some that are nolonger around that this does not
pertain to.
But I really feel fortunatebecause every customer or client
(10:09):
that I have Even if I haven'tseen them in like six months, I
would still move in with thembecause I feel like we all have,
there's a, uh, a love factorthere and I don't, I don't want
to be too smushy, but I wasgoing through the list.
I was like, yeah, no, I lovethem.
I love them.
I loved it.
Like, no, I would live withthese people.
Like these, we would have a goodtime, but I do have the
(10:32):
ultimate, um, And the ultimateis Shawnee, but we connected
many years ago and honest toGod, the first time I showed up
at her house was made at thedoor and said, Um, there is a
lasagna in the oven.
It needs to come out in 30minutes.
One of my children is asleepupstairs taking a nap.
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If they wake up, crawl in bedwith them, they'll probably cry.
They'll go back to sleep.
I have to go pick up my otherkid from baseball practice.
I'll be right back.
This was literally the firstencounter at the front door.
And I was like, I'll be rightback.
Is this, am I being punked?
Is this for real?
And so sure enough she leavesand I'm left in this house by
(11:17):
myself with the small childupstairs sleeping I don't
remember how old they were butyou know They were old enough to
know that they didn't know who Iwould be and they'd probably be
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (11:25):
Don't
worry.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (11:26):
And
I thought oh my lord.
Well, she comes back in about 20minutes, you know long enough to
go drive to pick up the kid andcome back and we Immediately
Connected on so many levels and,um, she told me from the
beginning, she's like, we'regoing to be, I'm a lifer if, if
we're in this, we're in thistogether till the end, and it
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has been very true, but thething, um, The thing that I have
found most rewarding from themand our relationship is the
trust that's been placed therefor me.
Um, and because I have been notonly included in the personal,
(12:11):
like, home, but I've also beenintroduced into a friend circle
that When my husband and I wentto go work on one of the houses
and met a lot of these friendsin this new area that she was
moving.
Um, He was ready to leave ourhome and move there because her
friends were so amazing and sowelcoming and so loving.
(12:34):
And it's everybody is so real.
Everybody's so authentic.
It's there who they are.
They celebrate each other.
It was like a community ofgales.
And I was like, What the hell isthis?
Because we have great friendshere.
But um, but it was different.
And they have all accepted meinto their life.
I'm one of the girls, if youwill.
(12:55):
Um, and they, it, we get to goout and see them, uh, usually
once a year.
Uh, and it just brings so much,um, joy, but the trust, I don't
take it for granted.
And then I, and I do try to, torelay this to my other jobs or
other interior spaces that wework on, because there is a
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trust there that when We weredoing a new home, you know,
going through a divorce wasreally painful.
When I went out to go do thehome, they never saw one thing
that was going in the home.
They were literally arriving ata home that was fully done top
to bottom without having pickedanything.
And I felt so much pressure toget it right because one, I
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loved them and I wanted them tofeel like a new home, a new
beginning.
Um, But that trust there, I waslike, okay, I know that the
trust, I got to get it right.
Right.
And the other places I've workedon for them as well, it's always
been kind of like that.
And so that trust, I'm like,okay, people, if people trust
you, which is always ourultimate goal, right.
Let's be honest enough, right.
(14:03):
To focusing in, get it right, doyour best, do what you can, and
then make magic happen.
And for me, our relationship hasbeen all about the magic.
Um, all about the trust andknowing when someone's there
that has your back.
Um, and to just make the bestoutcome possible.
But yeah, Jen and I would be injail.
(14:26):
hmm.
Mm hmm.
Mm
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (14:30):
Well,
I guess who's your learning
experience, Dwayne?
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (14:34):
You
know, what sticks to me when you
say that question?
It's, it's a lot of clients whoI worked with the mom, then the
daughter, and now the otherdaughter, right?
So, I'm getting old.
So, I'm, I'm having multipleclients where I've worked with
at least the parent, and then itmorphs into, uh, the child.
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But now I'm even working withsome that's the grandchild.
Mine goes back to that level oftrust, just like what we've all
said and heard.
Jeremy's saying for sure thatthere's a trust there.
So the, the person that standsout to me the most is, uh, first
is Kathy and I have been workingwith her for 20 plus years and I
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just know every time she thinksof a project, she thinks of sits
there and tries to think ofstuff to do.
Uh, she's like, I want to dothis.
What do you think?
And there's that run by, uh, andwe talk about it and we think
about it and dream about it.
And I just always, um, I'vealways loved that, but then I
revert back to when I firststarted working on her house, I
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remember she had a teenagedaughter and the teenage
daughter was sitting in herfamily room and met her and
moved on.
And I worked on that house andthen Kathy then build a new
house.
So we, we worked on that andthen the teenage daughter went
to school and the teenagedaughter, uh, became a
physician.
The teenage daughter moved backand bought a house.
(15:59):
And I have been working on the,now these teenage daughters,
grown daughter, house for yearsand years and years.
And actually my son works forher now.
And, It's that kind of long termrelationship that always is just
with all of us.
Like you, Stuart, you said thatyou've known, um, Noel for 27
years, right?
(16:20):
And Shani has been in your lifefor how long now?
10 plus years?
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (16:26):
Uh,
yeah, probably more than that,
yeah.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (16:29):
More
than that.
Yeah.
And, uh, with Kathy, it's been20 some years.
And, When you work with the mom,then the daughter, and there's
this complete trust, that's justsays something that makes you
feel good that you know thatyou've got something that you've
done something bright.
Um, you know, I'm in thecurrent, uh, situation where
it's basically finished.
(16:50):
I literally have one piece ofart.
Uh, it's my bar owning musicplaying, Hillbilly Judge, and I
just love her and I love him.
And there's everything goodabout them.
And again, it's been 10 plusyears when I first met them.
And, the story that stands outon that one was, typically I go
to somebody's house during theday and there's a point to that.
(17:12):
When I first started doingdesign stuff, you know, that I
had the retail store and if, andI've worked there five days a
week, six days a week, you know,whatever it was.
And if I went to your house todo design stuff, it was after
five o'clock, it was six o'clockbecause there was no other
person running the store.
It was me.
So I used to do lots and lots ofappointments at nighttime,
right?
Well, the luxury has evolved andI don't have to do all these
(17:35):
evening appointments.
So I'm usually at somebody'shouse during the day, right?
In this situation, I wassupposed to go to my bar only,
music playing, hippolyte judge'shouse during the day.
And she had a court case thatwas held over and she couldn't
get home in time.
So she asked if I could come inthe late evening or afternoon.
And I said, of course.
And so I go there and she sayssomething to me.
(17:55):
And I'd worked with her for awhile.
a few months, you know, so it'sjust when we was first getting
started to know each other.
And what she said to me, therewas a certain tone, a dialect,
uh, a twang that came through.
And I looked at her and I said,Hey, where are you from?
She said, Betsy Lane.
(18:16):
Now invite those EasternKentucky.
Betsy Lane is this littlecommunity right side, right?
So that's where I grew up isoutside of Piedmont.
So I know Betsy Lane real, real,real good.
And I said, wait a minute.
So you were a bar owning.
Music playing, hillbilly judge,and she said, uh, I said,
anyway, I liked you from day oneand couldn't figure out why.
(18:37):
And at that minute, there was aconnection to where we grew up.
And that sometimes you can'tunderstand why you like somebody
or there's a particularconnection in our situation.
It's the fact that we could feeleach other's energy of we knew
each other.
Cause her mom was also a schoolteacher.
Like my mom was a schoolteacher.
Um, there was a lot ofsimilarities growing up in the
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same area and the same, um,social income kind of bracket.
So sometimes it just happensbecause you can just feel
somebody and you, you trust themfor, and you don't know why you
trust them.
So she has been the most lovely,loyal client that you ever, ever
could imagine once it's all saidand done.
And a few years ago, um, Youknow, there was a house, that
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was out of state that we'reworking on.
And this is not true becausethings are changing.
Uh, some of the newest jobs, uh,design jobs I've worked on, I'm
working with the husband morethan the wife, which is not
something you, Really would everheard of or guys would have been
comfortable with 10 years ago.
But some of the jobs lately,it's been the husband, which is
fun.
I think that's wonderful.
(19:42):
It's a, you know, men areallowed to have good taste and
express their opinions.
Um, but
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090 (19:48):
they're
loud.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (19:50):
so
you don't have any clients where
the man is the lead in
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (19:53):
No,
no, no, I have, um, I would say
most of them are mostly women,but I do have a few and where
the men are involved.
I really like when they'reinvolved.
I really, I absolutely do.
Yeah, no, a lot of times I don'thardly ever see the husband,
but, um, but there are some thatare equally involved and I love
that because I think it shouldbe, you know, a mutual home.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (20:14):
No,
I'm, when I say to you, I'm not
dealing even equally.
I'm dealing with, um, 80 percentof the answers on a couple of
jobs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's been, that's beenunusual, um, evolution in my
world.
Uh, so that was interesting.
Uh, anyway, what that said, uh,that wasn't this case in this
scenario.
So this house that was out ofstate, you know, obviously I'm
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working with her.
We're picking out stuff and allthings have, we figured it out
and it's all To the house, andit's literally in boxes, or they
drove it down.
They had somebody drive it down,moving company.
And it's sitting there in, inthe house.
So, this is not a good testamentto allegiance.
Uh, tin can in the sky airplane.
So, she and I meet at theairport to fly down, uh, that
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evening.
And, the flight gets cancelled.
So, there we are.
We don't get to go.
So, the next morning, this ishow, really weird how this
worked out.
The next morning, get anotherflight, we're going to fly out.
Whatever court case she'sworking on, something blew up.
(21:20):
She couldn't go, right?
It just blew up.
So, she said, well, can we gothe next week?
And I was like, yeah, no.
It was like, gonna be Christmasin July here or something.
Whatever reason, I, or we mightbe going to Chicago trip.
I just couldn't go.
I was like, yeah, no.
And she's like, okay, I can'tgo.
I got to get this house done.
(21:40):
And I said, yeah.
She said, what about if you andJeff go, if that's the husband?
And, I said, I don't care.
I don't know Jeff, but if Jeffand I want to go, that's fine
with me.
So there we are flying down toFlorida and not knowing it's
like giant speed dating andtruthfully, The nicest, most
humble man you've ever met inyour life, right?
(22:03):
Love her, but he's, I hope shedon't hear this, she, he's the
better of the two.
Uh,
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (22:09):
edit
that out,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (22:11):
did
I edit that out
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09071 (22:12):
throw
you in jail.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (22:14):
She
gonna throw me in jail.
No, and they're both lovely, butwhat a humble, good, kind man.
And really got a friend out ofit.
He's just a good, good guy.
And that all happened because ofAllegiant Sucks.
Uh, and we worked together andhere's the best story.
So this house was in a statethat's very hot and it was
(22:36):
Summertime and, uh, the, the carcan't go in the garage cause all
the furniture's in the garageand we're unboxing stuff and
truthfully, it kind of helpedbecause like he could help unbox
and help me move furniturecause, uh, my little judge girl,
she kind of tiny and I was like,it kind of worked out because I,
I would have killed myselftrying to move all this
furniture by myself.
(22:57):
So with that said, he goes andstarts the car because we're
going to go, pick out some otherstuff that we need to finish up
with.
And, The car's been running forlike 20 minutes, and we go get
in the car, and he apologizes tome because the car is still hot.
Well, this gentleman thoughtabout this 20 minutes, went and
started the car, had the carrunning, had it, tried to be
(23:19):
cool, just to be kind.
It was still hot, and I said tohim, well, you did buy a house
in hell.
I don't know what's making it sohot here, right?
Well, well, well, well, well,well.
But that's the kind of kindnessand that you that that's there
and it's this evolution offirst, you never know what kind
of joy you're going to get fromsomebody.
You got when you walk insomebody's door and you knock on
(23:41):
the door and you're gettinglasagna out.
It's like, this is not what Iexpected, but you went with it.
Didn't you?
Right?
He just went with it.
To have to get on a plane to gowork with somebody for a week to
unbox stuff for this guy youdon't know, right?
You're like, this is not what Iexpected, but you go with it and
look what you get from it.
Look what you get from it.
It really is a testament just tosay, just be willing to say yes
(24:03):
to something and be open to itand don't shut it down to go,
okay, this is where we weremeant to be this minute.
Let's just see what happens andlet's go for it.
And it's always the ability andthe ease to kind of roll with it
and say yes to somethingsometimes.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (24:17):
It's
kind of like being open to the
unexpected joy.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_0907 (24:20):
Right.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (24:21):
There
you go.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (24:21):
And
that,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (24:22):
I
think that's what's happened for
all of us in that situation.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (24:25):
and
that actually kind of leads
into, I guess, one of myfavorites.
I have a lot of things that I'veworked on that I really, really
like.
And I've learned through all ofthem.
But one of them, um, was the bigone.
And, uh, I had worked with thislady before, you know, did some
(24:49):
stuff in her bedroom, got hersome lamps, you know, just small
things.
And it had been, you know, alittle while.
And she called me one day andsaid, can you meet me for lunch?
I was like, sure, why not?
And, uh, went to lunch and shehas like these photos of this
place.
And she goes, what color shouldI paint this door?
(25:11):
I said, well, Honey, where thehell is this?
What, what is this?
She went, oh, this is over, uh,and this is in the Bahamas.
And she said, I got thisproperty, and she goes, but I
think I might tear the housedown.
I said, well, if you're gonnatear it down, why'd I need to
pick out a front door?
I said, what's the whole conceptof this place?
(25:31):
I said, you know, you gotta giveme a little bit of background
information.
She goes, you know what, itwould just be better if we just
go.
We're leaving Friday.
We already got a plane ticket.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (25:40):
for
The Bahamas.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (25:42):
And
this was on like a Monday.
And And so, later thatafternoon, my little Delta app
dinged and I sure as shit hadsome tickets on there.
So we left.
And I was like, what in theworld?
Where am I going?
And, you know, it's not that shewas a stranger, but it's not
somebody I'd spent a ton of timewith.
(26:02):
So, I'm like, okay, now I'mgoing to another country.
see what to see what's going onhere, you know,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (26:10):
got
some little muscles, but you're
a small man.
She could have took
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (26:13):
I
she could have she could have
took me
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_0907 (26:15):
little
did she know how much you just
dislike flying.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (26:19):
Oh,
I know well, and i'm gonna
credit that to This project thati'm not okay with it.
I do not want to sit in a carfor seven hours I'm gonna get on
and go Because over the courseof this project I had to make 28
trips So I had to be okay withflying a couple times.
(26:40):
We flew on a plane with thechicken You We made it.
So, you know, in, in thatproject took almost three years
from start to completion and,um, it taught me a lot, not only
about design, it taught me a lotabout shipping.
(27:03):
It taught me a lot about workingwith different groups of people.
It taught me a lot about what Icould tolerate and what I could
get used to.
And so, I mean, I credit all ofthose things to that project.
And not only did it turn outwonderfully, it, it, it, I think
it made me a better person toacknowledge certain things and
(27:25):
do certain things that I wouldnever do before.
So in her trust in me to justlet me do it, and that's what
made it happen.
Cause she, I mean, I showed hera picture of a lamp and one tile
for a 10, 000 square foot houseand a 2, 500 square foot guest
house.
So.
You know, when I went in, I wentin a week before her, towards
(27:48):
the end after the structureswere built.
You know, her and I did 28 tripstogether, back and forth,
progress trips, this and that,and this and that, and this and
that.
But I never showed her anythingthat I was going to put in it.
And so I went a week before, andactually I took one of my
friends here, Carrie who I thinkwe're going to have on a guest a
couple weeks.
And she went with me to help meunbox these five containers of
(28:10):
things for this house.
And then Ann showed up a weeklater.
And it was like, it was thefirst time she was seeing it for
her eyes too.
So that was super exciting aswell, you know, and that's
actually where I'm leaving to intwo days.
So for some relaxation, but, um,I think that that is a project
(28:35):
that taught me the most.
I learned something with everyproject and I learned
personality with every project.
and um,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090 (28:45):
workers
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (28:46):
but
I learned about me on that
project too.
Yeah,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (28:50):
You
know, I think another running
theme through this is that, youknow, from, I think one of the
first podcasts, when youmentioned that lady that said,
what we do is frivolous.
Um, I know that I don't thinkany of the three of us have ever
really been able to let that go.
Um, but what we do is more thanstuff it's people, right.
And, and that is, um, more than.
(29:14):
flowers, and that's more thanhome accessories, and that's
more than putting the rightpiece of furniture in a, in a
space.
It's about being involved insomeone else's life, opening
yourself up to them, to whattheir life is, and connecting on
whatever empathetic level thatyou, you can, right, to have
(29:35):
empathy and, and connection.
And out of all of that, comesrespect and joy and friendship
and I think that's why all threeof us I think we're all three
people persons like we likepeople now listen I'll be fine
just to stay home some daysright like I'm okay with that I
(29:56):
need to recharge myself um butit's amazing when you open
yourself up to other people andyou allow that room for
connection and joy what canreally come out of it and what
you can learn both sides
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (30:11):
Oh,
it's it's just just 2 weeks ago.
This got finished up.
Uh, a client that lives in oneof the surrounding counties.
Um, 2 years ago, her husbandpassed away.
Um, mid 60s, uh, physician had agreat life, uh, from brain
cancer and so it was, um, theyknew it was coming and not an
(30:36):
easy, not an easy path.
And, um.
After he, he came home, hewanted to pass away from at
home.
And so after he passed away, shehad a little bit of time.
She felt like she wanted to notcleanse the house.
It's not the right word, but tokind of take some of the
(31:00):
memories away.
Uh, it wasn't erasing by anymeans, but she needed to edit
the house some to make her feelmore comfortable.
And that's where I got involved.
And I.
I was helping her with some newthings.
And one of the things that shehad asked for at the very
beginning was beautiful oldhistoric house.
She wanted a piece of artwork atthe bottom of the landing, uh,
(31:22):
in the foyer.
And it's the whole situation ofme.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (31:27):
I
think you, did you, did he
mention this
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (31:29):
you
just told this on the last
podcast.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (31:31):
Ha!
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (31:31):
Oh,
well, guess I won't tell it
again then.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (31:35):
Oh,
well, just, just change it in
some way! Ha ha!
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (31:38):
Yeah.
I was like,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (31:39):
Thank
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (31:40):
just
told this story about this
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (31:41):
He
he he he he he he!
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (31:45):
we
need guests, uh, guests on the
calls.
I'll just keep telling the samestories because I just don't
want to say every, every day,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (31:51):
This
is proof when we say that Dwayne
is the preacher who stands onhis soapbox in the store 17
times a day Ha
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (32:02):
is
one of those that just touched
my heart.
It really did.
It's just, that was
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09071 (32:05):
Well,
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (32:06):
it
was a good
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_0907 (32:06):
people
who may have not heard it, why
don't you go ahead and tell thatstory again.
Let's not, let's not take thebreath out of that flame.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (32:12):
Oh,
we already
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (32:13):
So
abbreviated version then is, um,
that I asked her if, what, what,what gives you joy?
And she said it was about thelast vacation.
It was a European vacation andshe walked past this pergola.
So we took the picture of thepergola and her.
student that she had as ateacher is an artist in
(32:34):
Cincinnati.
She had the piece painted ofthat picture and it got framed
two weeks ago and hung at thebottom of the steps.
And every time she now walkspast that, she thinks of that
memory and she thinks of Frankand, the joy that it was.
And so for me, that's the reasonI share that.
It's like I heard her and wasable to share I think relieved
(32:57):
some of her pain.
Uh, and then, and it did it in away that every time she sees
this, it's joy for her.
And again, it goes back to thatsituation of hearing your
client, hearing your client.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09071 (33:10):
Well,
listeners will know that we lost
our, our sweet Gracie, our cat acouple of weeks ago.
And, you know, this was, uh, thefirst kind of like, hmm, lost
it.
My husband and I had had, uh,that was in our home, right?
Like we've lost family members,but this was in our home.
Right.
And trying to be respectful ofeach other, trying to give each
(33:31):
other space to grieve in the waywe needed to grieve.
Part of it was also working onthe house and, um, what, what it
makes sense for me when you weretalking about the, the, the
client there, Dwayne, was thatwhen she was re, reassessing the
house, she was, was doing alittle bit of adjustment in the
house, Jeremy needed to do thesame thing, because he said he
(33:56):
needed to adjust some of thehouse to be in line with our new
reality.
Um, and it's as small as thatwas, right?
And so it was, you know, reaccessorizing a little bit, but
that was also for us to make theperfect little spot on a shelf
that has her ashes, right?
And so it was like those kindsof things of like, okay.
(34:19):
That was my life.
It's still, you know, it's partof my life, but we've moved on
and being open to that torealize that we're, it's now the
new reality, which is thehardest thing to accept when you
go through something that's likethat.
And when you can do that, andthen still honor and have that
love there.
I think that's really
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090 (34:34):
Mm-Hmm.
a hundred percent.
That exactly.
You said it in a better way thanI did.
That's exactly what it was.
It was about paying respect.
It wasn't editing, it was aboutpaying res respect.
Exactly.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (34:47):
With
that said, this is just a funny
little story.
In that trying to You know, getthe house as Jeremy said, you
know, our house is still set upfor someone who has a has a cat
has has a pet and we currentlydon't have that.
And he goes in our house feelslike an empty shale right now
seeing these things.
Right?
(35:07):
And, um, I was like, okay, Ihear you.
Like, I totally get it.
We were just taking our time ofdealing with the stuff, right?
You're not in any kind oftimeline.
You do it how you do it.
So it came to the litter box andJeremy's like, oh, just throw it
out.
And I'm like, I, I, I can't justthrow it out.
'cause for me it felt likediscarding, right?
(35:29):
Like just that, the action ofthrowing the litter box away.
I was like, uh, okay, how aboutthis?
We'll, we'll clean out thelitter box.
Let me put it downstairs in the,in the basement.
And if I, at some point am okaywith like, letting it go, I'll
let it go.
And he looks at me and I mean,again, we had been so.
(35:51):
Um, Oh, side note, our friendToi, who we love, uh, this
weekend, uh, when heading intoit, she said something to me and
it resonated, resonated with meon such a level that I have to
share with our, our listeners,whatever it is, whatever you're
going through.
If there's, if it's a loss, ifit's a struggle, if it's a
(36:12):
disappointment, if whatever itis, she looked at me and she
said, be gentle to yourself.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (36:19):
Mm
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (36:20):
I
thought that could have knocked
me over.
I thought that was just like themost it spoke to my core because
it was be gentle with yourselfand let yourself feel this and
don't beat yourself up and don'tanyway, so be gentle yourself.
That's what I'm leaving.
That's that's how I'm now liveliving part of my life with
everyone is just be gentle toyourself because we are all Um,
(36:40):
dealing with a whole bunch ofstuff.
Um, but back to the litter box.
Um, so gingerly, I was trying todeal with the litter box.
So we cleaned it out.
And he was like, alright, youcan put it in the basement.
It's, you know, he didn't wantto, but he was fine.
So then we cleaned out thelitter box and I'm like lifting
up.
And I'm looking at this litterbox that we've had to have 12 of
the 18 years that we've beencrazy.
And it is scratched and dirtyand you know, it is 12 years
(37:05):
old, if not 14.
and
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (37:08):
and
a litter
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (37:08):
the,
and what's a litter?
And I'm like, why the hell am Iworried about keeping this
litter box
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (37:15):
a
very very used
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (37:18):
I
processed, yes, very easy.
I processed it very quickly andit went into the dumpster
because then I said if, when weif we, if and when, which we
will, when we get another littlefur baby.
Um.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (37:30):
get
all new stuff.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09071 (37:31):
We're
going to get well, well, it's,
she doesn't need the 14 yearolds the divorce.
So yeah, I was gentle to myselfas I thought I needed and then
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (37:43):
Good.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09065 (37:45):
threw
it away
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_0907 (37:46):
Sorry.
I know a random tangent today.
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (37:48):
No,
I mean, I have a, I have a box
of, uh, it is the favorite toyin the, uh, collar of every dog
of my past.
I keep their favorite toy intheir collar and
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (38:03):
lord
as old as you are you have a lot
of
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (38:05):
I
know! A whole curio cabinet.
No, no, I mean, because it'sjust, that's, Everything else is
gone, but that's the two thingsI keep out of every, every pet
that has moved on.
So, I'm never gonna use themagain.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (38:21):
no
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (38:22):
They
in a box.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090656 (38:23):
hope
not
stuart_1_08-29-2024_090715 (38:25):
It's
like a hope chest for my dogs.
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_090715 (38:31):
for
the next wedding.
Will that be your dowry?
stuart_1_08-29-2024_09071 (38:33):
Lord!
jeremy_1_08-29-2024_09071 (38:38):
Well,
um, I think we've had some
interesting conversations today,guys.
I think it's been, it's beengood.
And it's been good to dig in alittle deeper as far as like our
relationships with our customersand realize that it's not just
some.
Well, I won't take it past I'mnot gonna take I'm gonna take it
past customers.
I'm always it's about people,right?
That's what we're, that's ourshort time here.
(38:59):
It's about people connecting andfinding the joy with each other
and being open to the unexpectedjoy.
I love that.
So all right, well, guys, go andbe and be gentle with yourselves
today.
And, uh, I hope everybody has agood week.
We will be back next Wednesdaywith a new podcast.
And if you haven't downloadedour app house floral, please do
so.
(39:19):
That's linked downstairsdownstairs is linked down in the
notes below as well as ourhotline.
And we'll go from there, butuntil then, we will see you all
next week.
All right.
Thanks.
Bye.