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You know that saying What's oldis new again?
Well, turns out grandma's livingroom is having to come back and
we're here for it.
This trend goes by about a dozendifferent names, grand
millennial, new traditional,nostalgic chic, anything with
the word heritage, take yourpick.
But at the end of the day, it'sreally about layering cozy
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textures, rich colors, and thosefamiliar slightly old fashioned
details that make a house feellike, well, a home.
Now don't panic.
We're not saying you need toraid your grandma's attic and
drag out her floral sofa unlessyou want to, in which case
respect.
But we are talking about how youcan add small touches, patterns,
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fabrics, colors that add a senseof warmth and history without
feeling stuffy.
In today's episode, we will walkthrough what people are adding,
which colors are stealing thespotlight right now, and how you
can dip your toe into this trendwithout tossing everything you
already own.
So grab a cozy sweater.
And bonus points if you stole itfrom your grandparents' closet,
and let's get cozy.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (02:04):
In
today's podcast, we are
discussing.
Uh, I guess we're gonna call ita trend.
I'm not really, I'm, I'm really,what I've seen people classify
as is a movement, um, and findit really interesting.
But I'll give a little bit ofinformation and then we can kind
of break it down and talk aboutopinions and all that kind of
stuff.
But where I started noticing itwas a couple of Instagrammers
(02:25):
accounts that I follow.
Um, and one of them's actually areal business, one of, they're
both real businesses, um, butthey call it different things.
And I started noticing that intheir, in their looks that they
were, um, mixing a lot of reallyheavy colors.
Um, a lot of like antiquetraditional like things.
(02:49):
And they've now coined thismovement, if you will.
One of them is calling itpolished heritage.
And the other one is calling itNew Heritage.
So I guess heritage is theimportant part over here, but
it, it, it kind of is the, thecomplete opposite pendulum swing
(03:10):
of like the all white interiors,which I can still live in Aldo.
Um, but.
It is much more moody, much moredramatic, and a lot more cozy.
Now, I am the one that sent thisto you all said, Hey, this is
what we should talk about in thenext podcast.
Had you all noticed this beforeas far as like a movement or a
(03:31):
trend?
And what is your take on it?
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (03:34):
Well,
I
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (03:34):
I.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_0 (03:34):
I
noticed the, the layered portion
of what they do and kind of theincorporation of some of that
cool silver.
I didn't know it had a name.
I just thought, oh, we foundthis in mama's cabinet.
I'm gonna clean it'cause itlooks good on a table.
So, but I didn't know it had aname.
(03:56):
and, and I think for peoplelistening who haven't heard of
it, I, I think it's kind of likeRalph Lauren home
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (04:06):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (04:08):
think
people get that,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (04:09):
It
has a very
stuart-host424_1_09-09- (04:10):
hasn't.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (04:11):
to
it.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2 (04:12):
Right.
Right.
And when they say shiny silver,they mean shiny.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (04:16):
Well,
I mean like polished nickel,
polished silver, like you'reactually like, yeah,
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (04:21):
can
pick up a candlestick and put on
lipstick.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (04:24):
pewter.
I saw a lot of pewter too, soyou know, that wasn't
necessarily shiny, but yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (04:28):
Yeah.
Which I truthfully hate, but, sothere you go.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-20 (04:32):
What
you hate polished shiny silver
or pewter polish nickel.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (04:36):
no,
no.
I, I don't like Peter.
I don't like Peter.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (04:38):
Oh,
I love pewter.
I love pewter.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2 (04:41):
pewter
either'cause I don't think I can
ever get it clean.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (04:45):
well
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2 (04:46):
always
has that little black patina on
it.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (04:48):
Mm
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (04:50):
Yeah.
No.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (04:51):
at
that, by the way?
Yes.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (04:57):
Hmm
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (04:58):
I
love Peter.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (04:59):
Hmm.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (05:00):
hmm.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (05:00):
Okay.
It is just dull to me.
So it's one of those things thatit, I, uh, after you forwarded
this article on, I read it, thereally, the only thing for me I
walked away with is, uh, it justgave me an affirmation of, I'm
glad I didn't change out my.
Chrome, uh, faucets in thebathrooms, for example, that
were putting in the house nearly20 years ago.
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'cause everything's doing goldand gold and gold.
when I did the house, you know,that wasn't even a choice.
And I've just always loved thesechrome fixtures.
And some people, maybe Jeremy,um, just has given the
impression that he thinks lookscheap
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (05:39):
Yeah.
I hate Chrome.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (05:40):
to
if it's, if it's done.
And the right aesthetic, uh,and, you know, the right, um,
handles and things like that.
For me, it's absolutely justtimeless and, uh, I love it in
a, in a good bathroom.
So
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (05:55):
Yeah.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_0 (05:55):
I
mean,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (05:55):
an
affirmation of it's back again.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_0 (05:58):
I
mean, I don't care for Chrome as
a go-to, but like you just said,if it's a specific handle or a
specific spout, I think Chromelooks good, I think the majority
of people think, oh, Chrome iswhat I can buy for 79.99 at
Lowe's.
there are more Chrome optionsthan that.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (06:20):
Well,
200,000 times out of 10 I will
go for polished nickel'causeit's just warmer for me.
It just feels, it feels more
stuart-host424_1_09-09 (06:27):
polished
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-20 (06:28):
that
that's where I go.
stuart-host424_1_09-0 (06:29):
bathroom.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (06:29):
Mm-hmm.
But, and I, for me, that when Iwas reading this and looking
into it, this is where it kindof, what I saw was more polished
nickel than Chrome, but
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (06:36):
wants
to keep.
Chrome has a little cooler, uh,undertone to it.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-20 (06:40):
it's
blue.
Yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (06:41):
at
it, you, you almost think that
they are the same.
Right.
But when you put'em together,
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (06:45):
Yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025_ (06:46):
a
blue undertone to it, and Polish
nickel has a yellow undertone toit.
And it, Polish nickel for mealmost looks like silver.
That's slightly, you know,starting to get dirty just a
little bit.
It has that little.
Patina to it.
The, the only hiccup is I dolove me some, uh, polished, uh,
nickel, but it's a lot moremaintenance as far as its spots
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and it shows stuff.
And I just, I had a client thatdid a bathroom a few years ago
and we used polished nickel.
And let me tell you, she, uh,just, uh.
Was unpleasant about her havingto have to wipe down her faucets
every time.
and I'm like, and the thing is,was probably six or seven or
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eight or years ago.
I didn't know, maybe I shouldhave known, but the person that
sold me the stuff didn't tell meand said, oh, by the way, just
be aware there's more work tothis.
And I would've had thatconversation, right, and say,
and she still may have done it,but because I didn't give her
the full story,'cause I didn'tknow it.
Then she complained to me allthe time about it and I was
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like, so from now on I say, ifyou do this, by the way, you're
gonna have to wipe it down.
It's just like with showerdoors, it's like they're
beautiful and you can put thefilm on'em, but if you do shower
doors, you know you're gonnahave squeegee it, you're gonna
keep it clean.
It's looks good, but there'smore effort involved.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (08:08):
By
the way, I have never had any
issue.
I've never had any issue withPolish nickel water spotting.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (08:16):
Well,
I just say if you're brushing
your teeth, spin it in the sink,not on the faucet.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (08:20):
I
was like, I dunno what these
people are doing.
I, I, I,
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (08:23):
Oh,
look at Dwayne's.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (08:25):
it
was, I don't know.
Maybe she had a specific kind offinish.
I don't know.
Maybe it wasn't lacquered or whoknows?
I don't, I don't know.
I don't know, but I've never hadany hiccups.
So
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (08:33):
it
was just
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (08:33):
maybe
she's just messy.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (08:35):
was
just, I.
she was just a bitch.
Let's just leave it at thatbecause I ain't gonna say the
name, but yes,
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_ (08:41):
Oh
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (08:41):
that's
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (08:41):
God.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (08:42):
Larry,
that
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (08:44):
Oh.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (08:44):
of
it, is you couldn't make that
woman happy.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (08:49):
Well,
we all know those.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (08:50):
say
that about
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (08:50):
Um,
okay, so this I know.
Oh yeah, no, I said Oh yeah,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (08:54):
Yeah.
stuart-host424_1_09-09- (08:56):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (08:56):
listen,
all the listeners know one, two,
so don't worry about about it.
Well, the movement was kind ofushered in by this grand
millennial movement, which Itook some notes from it'cause I
just thought it was reallyinteresting how these people,
um, kind of defined it.
And so they said it was, uh,other words for the, uh, or
(09:18):
other descriptors or othersnames for this kind of look is
dark academia, new traditional.
Traditional revival or cottagecore, which I don't, under
cottage cottage, cottage coredoesn't make any sense to me.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (09:32):
No.
That no
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (09:33):
I
mean, if I lived in a little
English cottage with all thelittle, you know, prints and all
that, I, I'd love it.
But, um, but this, or learn.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (09:40):
it
the best.
He gave the visual right.
He did it the best.
It it is kind of this layeredRalph Lauren,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (09:46):
yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (09:47):
Deep
Ralph Lauren vibe to it
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (09:49):
Yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (09:50):
always
eclectic and evolved and layered
and moody.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (09:53):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025_ (09:54):
I
mean, Ralph Lauren has some
light color too, but generallyit's heavier.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (09:58):
So
it said that this was a, uh, I
think I've already mentionedthe, the backlash to an, to the
all white.
And it was, um, really gainingtraction in the 20 to 40 year
olds, um, leaning towardscoziness and nostalgia heritage
and embracing grandma's house,but elevated with the modern
sensibility.
(10:18):
This is, first of all, this iswhy I can't be a writer.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (10:21):
not
one
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (10:21):
is,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (10:22):
house
ever looked like
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (10:23):
no,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (10:23):
exactly
right.
That's what I thought too.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_ (10:26):
so
this is almost like the, the
layer before maximalist,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (10:31):
Yeah.
There was lots of stuff, lots ofcollected.
Mm-hmm.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (10:34):
Lots
of collected stuff.
But this is like you put thelayer down, but then didn't put
all the collection.
You just put like one or two
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (10:42):
Mm-hmm.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_ (10:42):
to
make it pulled
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (10:43):
And
I will put some images down in
the, the show notes so people,if, if, if they're not for sure
what we're talking about or theywanna have some more clear
visual representations,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (10:51):
you
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-20 (10:52):
I'll
show you.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (10:53):
for
the 20 to 40 year olds.
I don't know any 20, 40 yearolds that actually can afford a
house anymore, so I don't.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-20 (10:59):
see,
that was also what I was
thinking, but this is the otherpart of, of, of what they were
saying was that it wasn'tnecessarily about going and
buying new things.
It was going and sourcing andfinding things at, oh God, I'm
gonna say this word.
Uh, peddlers, malls or antiques.
Not really in the antiquesbecause they can't afford
antique shops.
Right.
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But, um, going and finding thosethings that felt like it was in
their, their grandparents'house.
So everybody out there don't getexcited that you think your
grandchildren are gonna wantyour cherry furniture.
'cause they're still not gonnawant that shit.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2 (11:32):
right.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (11:32):
My
granny Ali, my dad's mother, she
was so upset because nobody, butmy dad wanted that this cherry
bedroom suit.
And I don't, I don't know whereit went.
I don't have a clue where it'sgone, but I, I can tell you
this, we don't have it.
I don't know, I don't know if weput it in the casket with dad.
He may have taken it with him.
I'm not sure.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (11:47):
more
Cabrio legs.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (11:49):
Lane.
But, so that was kind of like, Ithink also the gist of this is
something that's attainable,right?
That they can also, and if youthink about it, if you think of,
um, the other parts that theywere saying was, um, black and
white photography, which I'vealways loved black and white
photography, and I think I tendto like more photography than
you all do.
(12:10):
Um, but I love beautifulphotography.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (12:12):
no.
Not fair.
Nope.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (12:13):
like
photographer.
I like photography and nakedpeople.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (12:20):
Wayne.
Uh, he does.
He really, that's the truth.
Right?
Um, okay, so let's explainthough why you like this is
important.
I don't want this one to glossedover.
This was very important'cause Ihave argued and.
Try to coach people about blackand white photography and half
(12:40):
the time of them.
I get this look of like you're afool, and I want people to
understand through all of ourperspectives, why do you like
black and white photography?
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (12:49):
For
me, it takes whatever it is and
it really makes it a piece ofart.
It's, it's about thearchitectural black and white in
the picture.
photograph of a barn.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (12:57):
you
is more elegant.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (13:00):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (13:00):
has,
um, it evokes a emotion, a
feeling that has a, um, avintage undertone to it or a
sense of history to it.
Black and
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (13:12):
Yeah,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (13:12):
of
history to it for some reason.
Right.
For
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (13:15):
sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, I.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (13:18):
I,
I
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_0 (13:18):
I
would say yes.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (13:20):
you
know, I'm looking at a family
picture from Olin Mills from1973 and everybody is orange and
their clothes are orange.
There's turtleneck is orange,their hair is orange, whatever
it is.
But if that picture were inblack and white.
You wouldn't be fixed on howdated the clothing was.
Right?
(13:40):
Because it been, because thenthe clothing becomes a texture,
not a color.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (13:46):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025_ (13:46):
I
always go back to a picture if
you have people in it.
That's what I'm focusing on.
People.
I always wanna look at yourface, your eyes, your soul.
And if I.
Only fixated on how ugly thatwide rimmed collared shirt is.
Then the picture in color didn'tdo service to the person.
(14:08):
It only highlighted theclothing.
Right?
And architecture's different.
So for me, think black and whiteallows you to see the people
not.
The color of their clothing orsurroundings, and that changes
for me a lot once it's all saidand done.
So
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_0 (14:25):
I
think,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (14:25):
Emily
family photo from 1973 and scan
it and turn it into Ceia color,black and white, and then it's
much more palatable to me in anyformat.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (14:36):
well,
I think that echoes what Jeremy
said too, because it's he said,a barn or an architectural
element.
It's the true element and it'snot a color.
It shows exactly what thoselines are, what that shadow is,
and that's what makes itbeautiful.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (14:54):
Yeah.
Okay.
So we all are basically on thesame page.
And so here as people, this isnot trendy and it's not
trending.
This is classic elements, so ifyou do pictures, do them in
black and white.
You'll, you'll, you'll love ityears to come, I think.
Anyway,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (15:12):
And
you know, that was the funny
thing about what they're likethese, this new trend or this
new movement is that these, allof these elements are classic
and I think all of these, asidefrom maybe.
Some of the colors are thingsthat we have used time and time
again.
Time and time again.
Like these are in the toolboxthat we pull out, right?
So none of these, for me, Ithought I felt well that
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (15:33):
okay.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (15:34):
classy.
Classic.
I mean, ag, ag, again, I want,you want something updated and
it feels timeless.
Timeless and classic.
I think that's always like thewords I know that, that we can
go to, um, that we say a lot.
But, um.
Oh, another part, uh, anotherversion of art that people are
using are, um, what they'recalling, what do they call it?
(15:56):
Old world Traditional art.
Now, these aren't the poppypaintings or tuscany, not these,
these are not the Cyprus, likethe Cyprus tree painting.
Like it's not that.
These are like old world darkmoody landscapes.
Um, like the little ones that wegot from, um,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (16:16):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (16:16):
the
little ones.
Those little ones that we had.
And people have seen a lot ofreproductions in, in Target.
Yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (16:23):
But
I don't want a picture of a
Rembrandt,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (16:26):
No,
no, no, no, no.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (16:27):
house,
right?
'cause I know I, but it's thisold English landscape,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (16:31):
Yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-0 (16:31):
classic,
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2 (16:32):
Right.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (16:32):
Yeah.
That, that's the different.
So when you hear that it's a oldworld, don't go out there and
look like you got a moaning,Lisa, hanging over your couch,
right?
Because that's wrong, that's badand done.
Only Trump has.
Fake art that he portrays it tobe real.
Right.
We know what you, we know youpeople live
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (16:51):
Uh,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (16:51):
park.
Do not have real Rembrandt,okay?
Just don't do it.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_0 (16:57):
I
mean, might be hidden under that
velvet dog pain.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (17:01):
Well,
you never know.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (17:03):
So
not necessarily that, um, and
not like you said Rembrandt orlike water Lilys or like, you
know, not that, but thesebeautiful old English, uh,
countrysides.
Yeah.
These beautiful, beautiful ones.
Those, um, and a lot of times.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (17:19):
kind
of in.
Oh, you want to, you want toevoke Edinburgh, you know, you
know if you
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_ (17:25):
Oh
shit.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (17:26):
Jeremy
went on a European vacation a
number of weeks ago and he justkeeps talking about Copenhagen
and Edinburgh.
Anyway, so if you paint thosebeautiful pictures in the memory
of that, just'cause I think welive in the English countryside,
truthfully.
Lexington, those who are outsidethe bubble Lexington.
Lexington feels like an Englishcountryside to me with its
meandering hills and horses andstone fences, and beautiful
(17:50):
farms.
It has that kind of quaintcountryside,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (17:54):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (17:57):
you
basically, we can just go out
and take a picture of where welive, uh, and turning into black
and white picture and like, Hey,we got you.
Hey.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (18:04):
I
think I've mentioned this
before, but whenever we dotravel and then somebody's
talking about how beautiful itis, I'm like, oh, it, it does,
it looks like home.
And they look at me, look at melike I'm crazy, and they're
like, this looks like home.
I was like, yeah,
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (18:15):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-0 (18:16):
Rolling.
Green Hills was the, the stonefence.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now it's not downtown, but.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (18:22):
we
look, uh, to get it across those
who don't live in thisLexington, uh, area, uh, and
surrounding counties.
You just don't get how beautifulthis place is.
And I live 30 minutes outside ofwork and I.
Literally drive through a, whatit feels like driving through a
park, uh, the way the, the, the,the, the road system is made and
(18:42):
it kind of meanders through the,all these farms.
And I purposely this, this timeof year we're, when we're
recording, this is just right atthe edge of early fall and it's
been such beautiful weather, isroll those windows down and open
that sunroof and enjoy what Godgave you.
'cause it's just beautiful outthere right now.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-20 (19:00):
Hmm.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (19:01):
Yeah.
Yeah,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (19:02):
Um,
okay, so then colors.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (19:05):
yeah.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (19:06):
Yeah.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (19:07):
yeah,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (19:07):
Would
you, do
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (19:08):
yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09 (19:08):
sunroof
in
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_ (19:09):
I.
dwayne-guest364_1_09- (19:09):
Mercedes?
Uh, Stewart.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_0 (19:12):
I
do, I do.
It's large.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025_ (19:14):
I
didn't
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (19:14):
Um,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (19:15):
or
not.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (19:17):
well
it's funny you say that'cause I
actually drove through Paris onSunday.
we went to Carlisle, Kentucky.
Um,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (19:25):
Yes.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (19:26):
uh,
and I was like, wow, this really
is,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (19:28):
Uh.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (19:29):
did,
we did.
Yes.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-20 (19:31):
even
know this existed.
stuart-host424_1_09-09- (19:33):
Advent,
it's something adventure may
Lick.
Outdoor Adventure, animal Farm.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (19:39):
Hamels
and
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (19:40):
was,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (19:40):
and
stuff right
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (19:41):
yes,
had kangaroos had this parakeet
cage that you get in with thisstick with bird seed on it, and
they flock all over your head.
I, IMI was over that in aheartbeat, but
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (19:56):
were
you?
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (19:57):
I
bet.
I bet Allie was loving itthough.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (19:59):
or
for yourself?
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (20:01):
Uh,
no.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (20:02):
No,
we.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_ (20:02):
it
for baby girl.
And then she was like, honey,she goes, daddy, those birds are
gonna get stuck in my hair.
said they probably will.
So
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-20 (20:09):
Fair
train.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (20:09):
throw
the, let's just throw the stick
in at'em and
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (20:13):
Oh
my God.
We have, okay, so speaking ofwhat I think of birds and hair,
um, we have some customers whosedaughter is like the master
quick thinker on her feet, andthey had taken, uh, one of the
granddaughters to Disney Worldand one of the bird there was a
bird that flew over and shit inher hair.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (20:32):
Oh
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (20:33):
of
course, the girl.
Starts to freak out.
And the si the sister who, theolder her, I guess her aunt, who
is like just the quick thinkerwas like, oh my God, you're the
magic princess of the day.
Do you know how lucky you arethat they chose you to make you
the poop princess?
(20:54):
Oh.
So if it ever happens to you,just remember that makes you the
poop princess or Prince of theday.
Oh.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (20:59):
has
happened.
I have had said sunroof opengoing 60 miles down the road and
a bird has shot right through itand splattered all over the
seat.
It is an event, let me tell you.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09 (21:12):
Jeremy,
have you
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (21:12):
Uh,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (21:12):
that
happen to you
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (21:13):
no,
I've never had it happen.
However, my Granny Lene, whichis my dad's mother, so evidently
she must be around'cause it'sthe second time I've, I've, uh,
pulled her up this morning.
But, um, she used to wear wigs,she had very thin hair and I
love her to death.
But she always had that wig on.
If we went over to her house.
She, she wouldn't let thegrandkids see her without her
wig on.
And, um, or at least my sisterand I and, um, we would go walk
(21:36):
at the high school footballtrack.
And that,'cause that was theonly place to work out, if you
will, at home.
And it was free, right?
So everybody would just go andwalk the track.
Um, and so she would go out andwalk with us.
Not that this woman needed towalk at all, because she was
probably five, eight and 98pounds.
But, um, she would walk with usand I remember a bird in her wig
and she was, she was fit to betied.
(21:59):
But if you think that that wigwas coming off her head.
See was not coming off.
So common colors in this, whichthe first few are, are the first
few aren't necessarilygroundbreaking at all.
Blue, but we're talking aboutdark blues.
So Navys the dark slate.
Blues green, and again, we'retalking dark, moody greens, and
(22:22):
then brown.
Okay.
Neutral city, right?
Fine with me.
Hey.
Alright.
And then pulls in.
My other new favorite colorsthat I'm obsessed with is
cinnamon, which I just love thiskind of dark, rusty orange,
brown color.
But the one that I'm really likeI can't get enough of right now
is ox blood.
Uh, if it is ox blood, I justwon't live in it.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (22:48):
Oh.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (22:48):
Define
ox blood
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (22:50):
So
it is sim similar to Burgundy,
but it's a dark red brown.
And so it's, um, it, it's notburgundy, but it gives
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (23:01):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (23:02):
and
it gives, and it has a little
bit of rust in it, but it's justMm mm mm mm It's a, for me, it's
a very classic color.
Um.
Um, you know, when we originallywere talking about like what
colors we were gonna see, like,you know, blue is blue navy,
blue was, you know, really thebig thing.
And then we discussed that greenwas being mixed into it.
And at the time
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (23:23):
Okay.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (23:23):
the
next color that was gonna be
mixed in was, uh, some kind ofform of orange, and I, maybe I
was looking for it, but I feellike I've seen it kind of being
incorporated into it.
But I know that orange could belike a really hard color for
people, and that's where I thinkthat this ox oxblood is.
That's kind of like taking thatplace into it and Mm
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (23:43):
and
more
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (23:44):
mm
Yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (23:45):
You,
you said to me,'cause I love me,
um, brown'cause it's neutral.
I can say to you with fullauthority, I don't see brown as
a neutral, even though a lot ofpeople do, and it's very on
trend as being a neutral.
I just do not care for chocolatebrown walls.
Once it's said and done, justwill never like it.
(24:08):
Never, never, never like it.
You can gimme charcoal all daylong.
That's different for me, but Iam never gonna walk in and, look
at, uh, dark chocolate brownwalls and go, Ooh, that's
pretty, um, that's that wholestruggle for me.
Even when you mentioned orangeand brown in the same sentence,
I just flashback to 1973 againand I just.
(24:28):
I've always disliked thosecolors.
You know that, combination, Ijust
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (24:34):
I
don't know what happened to you
in the seventies, but it had tobe a very traumatic decade
because you have consistentlysaid the, the orange and the
brown in the seventies wasrough.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (24:44):
It's
awful.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_ (24:45):
in
the past?
Well.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (24:47):
no
diversions of those colors.
It was either that awful versionof avocado green, which was also
a really ugly
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (24:56):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (24:57):
or
those two colors, and then
everybody in everything was thatcolor.
It seemed as if, at least in my,in my bubble, and you just, it
just, there was, at least we'rein a, in a world now.
That if you want white and grayand modern, you can have it.
If you want chocolate brown, youcan have it.
If you want pale blue, you canhave it.
Right.
(25:17):
There's not
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09 (25:18):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (25:18):
many
rules written into it that you
get to have.
There's trends and there'sthings that's trendy, and
there's things that you like,but there we're talking about
something right now, that's richand beautiful, but in 1970, it
seemed like everything lookedthe same to me, and that's,
that's the trauma.
And so you couldn't break freefrom.
That horrific stuff.
And also, you know, I lived inprobably what, a 700 square foot
(25:42):
trailer and everything wasorange and brown.
You couldn't run from it just
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_ (25:50):
Uh
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (25:52):
Sears.
You remember the kids?
You remember the canister setthat had the mushrooms on it,
the happy mushrooms?
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (25:57):
Oh
yeah.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_ (25:58):
oh
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (25:58):
I
mean, I think they were, they
predated me, but I think theywere still around for
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (26:02):
Yeah,
well we've got the whole
collection.
Um,'cause I'm filtering throughmom and dad's stuff.
She's got it all saved and shejust said save this for the
kids.
'cause I know they'll love itone day and I go, kid don't want
it, that's for sure.
'cause I just
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (26:17):
I
bet Chloe will.
I bet Chloe will, won't like it.
She's a little hippy dippy.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (26:21):
she
would like that.
Yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09- (26:23):
dippy.
Hippie dippy wants it.
You, you got it right.
Hippie dippy wants it.
She loves it.
I just look at it and gothoughtful.
Anyway,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (26:31):
Well,
so.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09 (26:32):
Neutral
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (26:33):
So,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (26:33):
the
same word is not there for me.
I'll just tell you that.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025_0 (26:36):
I
mean, I think it can be.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (26:38):
you
know, for.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (26:39):
was
some designer that did a, a, a
a, a commercial project here,uh, about a year and a half ago
and put orange in, uh, in uh,chocolate brown together.
And I think that, uh, probablyPR as a peacock and I looked at
it and went, seriously,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (26:59):
I,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (26:59):
of
money for ugly.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (27:00):
I
think, um, no, I love it I, it
feels worldly to me.
It feels, um, you know, I justdon't look at from the same
perspective.
'cause I didn't live throughyour flock.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (27:10):
it.
If, uh, if you're gonna buy asuit, are you gonna buy a Navy
suit or a chocolate brown suit?
Uhhuh, that ain't that hard tofigure out Next.
It's that easy, right?
That tells you what's classic.
That tells you what's classic
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (27:26):
I
mean, I, I would buy a brown
suit.
I would, I would, I do have aNavy suit.
I don't have a brown, I have ablack and a, and a navy and a
gray.
But
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09 (27:35):
Mm-hmm.
See, don't
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (27:36):
no,
but it also, I haven't seen it.
You know, I also haven't seenthat many.
I don't know.
I don't wear suits off.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (27:43):
right
now, Jeremy is down about 65
pounds.
Uh, and he's looking hot.
And so I told him the other day,I said, I always thought he was
a pretty man.
I said, but he's gonna walk inhere one day in his brown
polyester suit.
And, uh, people are just gonna,I said
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (28:02):
Lord.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09 (28:02):
protein
shake.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (28:03):
Um,
as long as I can get one of
those, uh, those that reallypointy lapel, like from Saturday
Night Fever.
Yeah,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (28:10):
yes,
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025_ (28:10):
I
got it.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-202 (28:11):
work
it.
dwayne-guest364_1_ (28:12):
established,
uh, brown is not a good neutral
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (28:16):
Oh,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (28:16):
What
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (28:17):
for
Dwayne.
I love it.
stuart-host424_1_09-09- (28:18):
Forward
to Wayne.
Yes.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2 (28:20):
okay,
so what I'm gonna follow this up
with is that if you like this,look, you don't have to go all
in to this, you know, likethere's some, like we've talked
about like with the, uh, grayfloors, like gray, brown floors,
like thru wood, right?
We've, we've said time and timeagain.
Don't do something like that,that's gonna be really trendy.
You're gonna get sick of it infive, 10 years.
Right?
(28:40):
Do something that's more classicfor me.
You don't have to.
Change your entire home over tothis if this is something that
you like and you feel like it'sdrawn, drawn to you first.
I think if you do the entirehouse in really deep, moody
colors, I think you're gonna bereally depressed.
I think that it's just,
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2 (28:57):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09- (28:58):
you've
got a lot of windows, right?
Uh, now if you wanna do like aroom or space thinking again.
But I think all of theseelements as far as uh, textural
fabrics and the beautiful.
Uh, paintings and the pewter.
And if you wanna pull the Chinaout for the table and the uh,
uh, mohair pillows and, youknow, anything, think very
rough.
And along that you can pull anyof those elements and easily
(29:19):
enter, use them in your home.
And I feel like you have tolike, okay, everything's gotta
be, Color drenched to get itacross right.
Um.
And I think one of theinteresting ways that another
Instagram or designer that hasbeen kind of like incorporating
this into their style is, um,studio McGee.
And so she calls it NewHeritage.
(29:40):
Now, what I love about this is.
She is, you, you both knowStudio McGee, I'm sure.
McGee and Co.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So a, a beautiful aesthetic, um,for some, probably
uncomfortable, usually has alittle bit more modern coastal
vibe to it.
It always feels very natural andone with one with the, the
(30:01):
earth.
Like it always feels veryearthy.
Um, she loves her some modernlamp.
She loves modern everything.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (30:07):
sub
ratan and caning.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-20 (30:09):
Yep.
She loves.
Yep, she loves that.
And, and I'm not, and I'm notknocking her'cause I, I do, I
really appreciate her style andaesthetic.
Um, but she utilizes a lot ofthese elements and incorporate
them into a much more modernspace than traditional space.
And the only reason I wanted tobring that up was because I
thought that's a really goodplace for people to see.
Using those old world lookingpieces of art using beautiful
(30:33):
old pieces of pottery or, um,ginger jars or things like that
that you've seen that you canincorporate into your house,
even if that whole thing is notyour feel.
Layering those beautiful mohairpillows and the throws and
things like that on there.
And, um, I, what I wanted was, Ijust didn't want people to think
like, well, now I gotta go paintmy room oxblood and change
everything in here.
That's, that's, that's not it.
(30:53):
But this is how I'm, I waslooking at seeing, well, this is
how I see people incorporating.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-202 (30:57):
But
you can.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-2025 (30:59):
if
you want to, but this was how
people can easily incorporatethese classic traditional
elements into their homes wherewherever they are, I guess.
Does that make sense?
stuart-host424_1_09-09-20 (31:11):
Yeah.
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-2025 (31:11):
Oh
yeah.
Absolutely.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yes.
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (31:14):
I'm
always, uh, actually, while I
was reading one of the, theblogs about this, she said
something along the lines of,this is where I'm at.
This is what I love.
Please don't think that I'mtelling you that everything else
is out.
That you have to changeeverything in your house.
Like what?
What you love and what you havearound you is what you should
(31:34):
have.
Right.
And that's always, I think whenwe approach this, like I don't
want anybody to feel like whatthey have is trash.
Like that's never the, we alwayswant people to love their space
and be able to update it in away that feels like them.
That's always what we want, istheir home to speak like them
dwayne-guest364_1_09-09-20 (31:49):
your
advice.
You, do you?
jeremy-guest208_1_09-09-202 (31:52):
you
to you bitches.
I like that.
Well, I think that's a great wayto end the this week's podcast.
You do, you bitches.
Well, if you have not downloadedour mobile shopping House, house
Floral, please do.
You can find it in the AppStore.
It's also linked in the shownotes below.
And we will see you all againsoon.
(32:12):
We'll see you next week.
See y'all.
Bye bye.
stuart-host424_1_09-09-2025 (32:15):
all