S2:E4 Creating a Timeless Design

One of our favorite ways to discuss our favorite kinds of design is timeless, but what does that mean?  How do you do that?  Well...that's what the three of us delve into this week!

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Episode Transcript

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (00:00):
Will

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (00:00):
You know, taking over the

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (00:01):
Oh,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (00:02):
with Doge is easier than doing this
taping today.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (00:05):
or buying a Tesla, one of the two.
I don't know.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (01:10):
The topic for today is, well, it, it
was something that you broughtup, Dwayne, but I actually had a
customer ask me, she said, youknow, you all talk about.
When you're doing a room tryingto do it in a timeless way,
right?
And then she goes, but what isthat?
And I thought, you know,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (01:28):
Okay.
Fair enough.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (01:30):
is not the, uh, if this is not like
in your common vernacular orthis isn't the way you think
about it, like, I get it, right?

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (01:36):
Hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (01:36):
a lot of other things that we get
that it

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (01:38):
Yeah,

jeremy-guest263_1_03- (01:38):
different things to different people.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (01:40):
Right.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (01:40):
sure.
Sure.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (01:41):
And so today I thought we should
discuss like how we approach,designing homes for us and for
clients, or spaces or,vignettes, whatever it is, in a
way that is more timeless.
And if, if there are guardrailsor if there are points that we
go from to take from for that.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (02:00):
Hmm.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (02:01):
That's fair.
I will argue with a.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (02:03):
Um, so what you all have?
Like, are, are there like thingsthat come to mind that are just
like technically always, um,that you consider timeless?
Or are there, is there like a

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (02:16):
Uh,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (02:17):
what's it called?
Is there a point of view thatyou

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (02:19):
Stewart can't wait to say something.
I'm, I'm waiting.
He's, yeah.
Okay.
Stewart, go.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (02:23):
bated breath.
Um, hardwood floors I think aretimeless

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (02:30):
Get out.
We rarely agree on anything.
And that was with a what?
I was gonna

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (02:35):
I know all, I mean, that's it.
You got hardwood floors, you are40% there.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (02:41):
Yes.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (02:42):
Yeah, I mean, always,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (02:44):
it.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100 (02:44):
always.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (02:45):
yeah.
I

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (02:45):
Well, you

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (02:46):
Now not, not LVT, not Pergo, not
laminate, hard wood floor.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (02:54):
yeah,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (02:55):
I, I do air quotes real.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (02:57):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (02:57):
we've discussed on here that the, the,
the difference that there iswith, um, just having real wood.
It's the, it's, there'ssomething about the, the density

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (03:09):
Oh.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (03:09):
feel of it, the sound of it, all of
that.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (03:12):
Funny, you,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (03:13):
Yes.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (03:13):
have houses that, um, it comes to the
flooring, it's so funny that Ican feel them, hear them
understand the soul of yourhouses.
Where mine a compromising, it'sthat nasty Bruce pre-finished
hardwood flooring that I lost abattle on many years ago.

(03:33):
We won't get into that.
I

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100 (03:35):
Because you've clearly gotten over it.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (03:38):
Mm.
20 years later, I still hate, Ihated that date was going in and
I hated 20 years later.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (03:42):
Mm.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (03:43):
But we won't go down that path.
But let's start with Jeremy's.
Jeremy's, you know, kind of thatmedium oish colors what's in my
head, but thinner and

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (03:56):
Yeah.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (03:57):
and it just has a character to it
and it's slightly worn.
It's like a great pair of shoesthat they're, it's

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (04:03):
it, is it red oak or white oak, do
you know?
Or a combination thereof.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (04:07):
believe it's Red Oak because the, the,
the stain, we don't even havestain, it's just polyurethane.
and when we originally wereworking on the house, we only
did the first floor knowing we'ddo the second story later on.
And I thought, Lord, I can'tafford to do all these stairs
too at the time.
Um, so we just put back what wasbasically there, right?
So it was just

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (04:26):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (04:27):
and then when we redid the kitchen,
we had to put down some newwood.
and I just remember the, thecontractor's saying, yeah.
He goes, I'm pretty sure this isRed Oak.
He goes, you know, you put itdown and it's a, real pretty
nice color.
And then, you know, 50, 75 yearslater it turns into the
beautiful color of country ham.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (04:45):
Hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (04:46):
So that's always How so?
It's not, it's not red.
It's, when he said that, I waslike, I don't

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (04:49):
Well, right, but it's just Right.
It'll take a stain differentjust based on that.
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (04:54):
was white oak, but, um,'cause I
would have a lot moreflexibility with stains and
stuff.
But, uh.
But Yeah, but no.
It's funny that you

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (05:01):
Yes.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (05:01):
wood floors.
For me it's overall like naturaltextures.
Like I'll even widen that, thatup.
So like, even if it's real stoneor uh, you know, whatever, but
real textures, legitimate, youknow, marble gran, like
whatever.
It like those elements.
I think that has a true liketime tested, just like it could

(05:22):
have been

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (05:22):
I wanna stick with the harbor
floor for a moment because Ithink I'm starting with you,
Jeremy, because I think theharbor floor is in your house.
Even though I kind of hear thetone that you don't necessarily
love it, I like it and it reallydoes give your house, um, a.
Charm and it feels old and itfeels authentic to the house,
right?
It get well.

(05:43):
Well it

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (05:44):
Right.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (05:44):
It, it, it feels appropriate, right?
It feels like it's got in ageand time and life and so it,
that's what makes your house ontop of all the other things that
you've done.
It started with what Stewartsaid.
It started with the 40%.
That's the hard floors.
'cause it already started offthe house in the right.
Path because it has personality.

(06:06):
Then I really, really jump overto Stewart's house and oh my
God, you know, you Antebellummansion there with your floors
and the boards that are, youknow, 12 feet wide.
I don't know how big they are.
You are, I mean it, you walk inthat and you go as much as you
see everything.
Again, the flooring for yours,it gives

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (06:24):
Right.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (06:24):
its soul, its personality.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (06:26):
Right.
And it, and it's, you know,again.
It's the time of what they had,you know, 162 years ago.
So they really were cuttingtrees off of the property they
owned, and that's where thefloors came from.
They're all heart pine.
They're all random widths.
They're random links, and eventhough the coloring is a little

(06:47):
different in every room, I thinkthat's really what tree they
came out of and how they werestained.
I mean, it's just,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (06:56):
tell, tell you that.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (06:57):
yeah.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (06:57):
feels old and interesting and, you
know, the, the, the, the, thewalk, the sound, you know,
especially at

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (07:05):
Yeah.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (07:05):
Um, Stewart, it gives it, again, its
soul because you hear and itcreeks and has its personality
and so, I'm with you a hundredpercent.
Harbor floors.
Yes.
And now go back to Jeremy againon your sales pin.
It's like, okay, if you don't doharbor floors, what's the next
thing that is timeless forflooring?

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (07:24):
it We even get to like, moving on
from that, you were talkingabout the flaws and the stories
and all that with

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (07:30):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (07:31):
So when we bought our home, we're
the third owner of this home.
And so the previous owner wholived here for 50 years of the
65, before we got it, they atsome point decided she wanna put
linoleum down, honey.
They put linoleum down in thatfoyer tiles and then they did
something upstairs.
I can't remember, uh, what itwas'cause it was so long ago,
but.

(07:51):
We ripped it up.
And of course, you know, theyput all these staples and nails
and things in the, in the floor.
And when we had to rip'em all,all out before they could
refinish the floor and, youknow, here's all these holes.
And Jeremy was freaking out'cause he was like, all these,
it looks like it's Swiss cheese.
And like, well, it's not thatbad.
There's just a lot of holes andthey're all dark.
And so when it came time torefinish them, I asked, I asked,

(08:11):
well, can you, can we fill'em inwith anything?
He's like, well, you know, notreally.
And then I decided, I was like,no, you know.
This is part of the story,right?

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (08:19):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (08:20):
is part

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (08:20):
That's the story of the house.
Yep.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (08:22):
left over a hole that's there and
it's just like a, a littlething, and I look, every time I
look down, I'm like, yeah, it's,it's just the wear and tear
baby.
It's just your life.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (08:30):
It's The Wrinkle.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (08:31):
the wrinkles.
I say that after I

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (08:33):
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (08:33):
face creams this morning, but you
know, I

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (08:37):
Oh, Stewart's over there.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (08:38):
that I'm

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (08:38):
You're

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (08:38):
Hm.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (08:39):
in over there,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (08:40):
I mean, now Botox is kicking in.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (08:45):
But moving on

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (08:46):
I love it.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (08:46):
that, going to like those natural
textures, like, you know, ifyou've got like a Spanish
colonial home and it has ceramiclike that, no, not ceramic.
Um.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (08:53):
Tia,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (08:54):
uh, yeah, it has like the tile that
was like

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (08:56):
SIA Tile.
Yeah,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (08:57):
it seems true to the home can also,
I feel like, be timeless in thatkind of style of home, but

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (09:02):
Sure.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (09:04):
um, uh, whether it be Pennsylvania,
bluestone that I think we alllike, you know, just dream of
and never can afford.
Um, or those like natural slate,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (09:12):
on my porch.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (09:13):
slate, not the nasty, like rusty color
green slate, which I just, Ilisten, I know people out there
love it.
I just can't do it.
My daddy always wanted to put itdown and my mama said absolutely
not.
And I said, thank you Jesus.
'cause I can't deal with it.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_ (09:26):
Basically, when you say classic, for you,
it's almost charcoal, right?
It's

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (09:30):
Yeah.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (09:30):
pretty monolithic is

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (09:32):
Well, that's when it was mined
originally.
You know, so many scrapescenturies later.
It turns color.
I mean, you know, I mean, that'strue with any natural stone.
It doesn't look like it did whenthey first got it out of the
ground 10 years ago.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (09:49):
I think it also comes from where
my mom and dad's house is.
It's, it's, there's a lot ofslate in the yard.
Uh, a lot of slate stone.
So like if you dig down so far,you, you're hitting slate.
Like it's, you don't even haveto go dig down that far to hit
it.
And it was just everywhere, butit was the ugly slate.
I has all the, and it justalways just turned me off.
'cause I always hear my mom likecomplaining about, I can't dig

(10:11):
to put a flower bed in.
I can't do this, I can't dothat, and all that.
So I think that's what kindaturned me off of it too.
comes to mind always when Ithink of that are like the
cabins and Pigeon Forge orGatlinburg, and they've put that
around the surround and there'slogs everywhere and it's just,
that's you, you go right aheadbaby.
It ain't me.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (10:28):
Right.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (10:30):
I would look of, of, of slate if
you really wanna define it andsay what's classic.
I think we all would say.
It is more monolithic and it'smore charcoal.
It's, it's, again, about textureas opposed to you don't need
that much personality in theflooring for it to be greens and
these, and oranges and rust.
It's more monolithic for, forall of us.

(10:53):
It's more classic once it's allsaid and done in slate form.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (10:56):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (10:57):
Yeah, I would agree.
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (10:58):
Mm-hmm.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (10:59):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
And what else are you lovingabout the, uh, the, the
flooring?
Jeremy, you were going off onMarble.
Marble gets a bad rap.
Marble gets a bad rap.
Marble gets a bad rap.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (11:09):
mean, you think about these, uh,
national monuments, they're allmade outta marable.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (11:14):
Every one of'em.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (11:15):
one

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (11:15):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (11:16):
Every library.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (11:18):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100 (11:18):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (11:19):
just in a beautiful, oh my God.
We, when we visited friends inColumbus, uh, a couple weeks
ago, we went to this, uh, barthat was an old, bank, and they
have renovated it into like acocktail bar.
So it wasn't like a dance club,it was just like someplace you'd
go and sit down and have drinkswith friends, just, you know,
have a casual night.
Anyway, it was one of thesebeautiful old banks that were,
you know.
God only knows how old it was.

(11:39):
Um, but 30, you know, 30 feetceilings and all that with
beautiful chandeliers andeverything.
And you know, everything's justlike the old marble.
And it had been there for along, long time and

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (11:48):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (11:49):
as it was back then.
Right.
I mean,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (11:51):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (11:51):
just don't get wear and tear.
But those natural, um, thosenatural materials, they, they
tell a story that they've

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (11:59):
Well,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (11:59):
This

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (12:00):
well, right, and I think that's where
people.
Get it wrong about Marblebecause the more you use it, the
better it looks.
Don't marble should never be ahundred percent completely
clean, I don't think.
I mean, you can clean it,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (12:17):
Oh

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (12:17):
but

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (12:17):
my house is most of the time.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (12:18):
Yeah.
I mean you can clean it, butlike you just said, in these
buildings that were built in thelate 18 hundreds, early 1920s,
they're all marble.
They're all, people are stillwalking on'em all day long.
They're still museums.
They still look great.
They look classic'cause theyare.
So if you put that in yourhouse, don't think it has to be

(12:40):
high polished, shine whitemarble on your floor all the
time

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (12:44):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (12:44):
then that just makes it look cheap,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (12:48):
I, yeah.
I don't

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (12:48):
you know?

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (12:49):
the day is Embrace your wrinkles.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (12:51):
embrace

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (12:52):
That's what it is.
It brings to wrinkles.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (12:54):
Yeah.
And I

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (12:56):
So, yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03- (12:57):
embracing the wrinkles goes to, a, bigger
idea of curated and collectedalso.
Right.
So that's you having the tablethat you've got, you've had
that.
Um, like I have this table that,my dad had a somebody in his
family that owned a grocerystore and they had the butcher
block table that they used inthis grocery store where they

(13:18):
cut all of the meat that thepeople bought well, he was so
proud of this thing.
And look, I hated this thing forthe longest time, but now who
has it?
Me?
And so it has all the chops andthe thing like the butcher
block, you think, you know, youjust kind of like that.
And I love that natural texturekind of mixed in with things
because it just, it tells thestory and it doesn't feel like I
just bought everything at, youknow, some store and bought it.

(13:40):
So it's that curated over time.
Right.
I think

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (13:42):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (13:43):
that's where I was going.
It's like it doesn't just happenovernight, right?
It has to be curated and youhave to get those wrinkles and
you gotta get all the littlelove and dove and then, you
know, put your oil la on andthen do what you gotta do.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (13:53):
You know when the process Right.
Had that furniture motif and youbought all of it at one time
from the Roy Hill?
Yeah.
Don't do that.
Don't do it.
If I won the whole furniturepackage, I wouldn't.
I would not want the end tables.
Okay.
Just to be clear.
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (14:10):
sadly, um, I don't why Jeremy is
obsessed.
My husband is obsessed with, Theold game shows, but I guess
there's like a network where youcan just watch all these old,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (14:20):
Oh yeah.
The Game Show network.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (14:22):
um, I don't even know what some of
these games are.
I, I can't remember the names ofthem.
Um, I.
But one the other night had likethis gigantic curio cabinet was,
all of the trim and all of thedetail and all of the goop and
all

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (14:41):
Ooh, and shiny cherry, I bet.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (14:44):
in cherry exactly.
It was shiny cherry and theyrolled it back.
And you even at the time, youcould see the woman who looked
at it, which, you know, this hadto be taped in like the
seventies because she had likethe seventies hair with these
big ass sunglasses or big assglasses that were tinted and.
And, but it wasn't like she wasFarrah Faucet.
It was like she was FarrahFaucet from the holler.
And

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (15:04):
I got

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (15:05):
it's just, I mean, you, I'm trying to
paint the picture for you and itpulls up and you can see

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (15:08):
That was pretty clear.
That was pretty clear.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (15:11):
know, it was just a very specific
picture it pulls back thosedoors.
You see that curio cabinet andyou see her eyes get so big and
she's so excited, and then sherealizes, I don't like that.
I don't wanna win that.
You see, you see the switch inher mind.
Go.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (15:26):
Oh, I don't want, well, if you ever
get on the game show technic,uh, uh, network or if I ever see
it, it's uh, match game.
Uh, if I'm scrolling and that's

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (15:35):
Oh God,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (15:36):
there for 12 minutes.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (15:37):
that's so funny.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (15:38):
Match game.
Yes.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (15:42):
You know, I've had several friends
on Jeopardy and friends on whowants to be a millionaire, and
I'm like, I would be a disaster.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (15:48):
Oh yeah, I can tell you that.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (15:50):
I would look at the

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (15:51):
Oh, yeah,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (15:51):
But who?

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (15:53):
yeah.
you, you're, you're a smartcookie, but you would go real
stupid.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (15:57):
Yeah.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (15:57):
you.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (15:58):
I, I know I would, that's why I'm
not gonna, that's why I'm notgonna

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (16:00):
You not gonna do it, are you?
Uh.
Okay.
Guess.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (16:07):
there colorways that you think that
are more classic?

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (16:09):
Hmm.
Oh, yeah.
Uh, anything,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (16:11):
Ooh.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10 (16:11):
anything creamy, anything soft, white and
anything the lightest, softest,prettiest blue is in my world.
Those are the two that I alwayswill go to toward, and that's 3%
what I do.
So if you hire me, guess whatcolor are you getting?
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (16:28):
What about you, Stuart?

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (16:30):
Uh, wow.
See, I, I see colors as moreheavy that are timeless, weird.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (16:38):
Well, I think that's also because of

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (16:40):
You've done a beautiful job with your
house.
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (16:42):
There.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (16:43):
job.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (16:43):
pick up a historical paint book from,
if you go to Lowe's or HomeDepot or you're one of those
big, big box stores and you pickup what, what they consider the
historical colors, right?

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (16:52):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (16:53):
gonna have the creamiest of creams,
you're

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (16:55):
Yes, absolutely.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (16:57):
then you're also gonna have these,
these colors

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (17:00):
It's very saturated,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (17:01):
very saturated, very, very rich, that
were in like homes.
Like the one that you haveStuart, like that that is, uh,
that's there.
Now I don't think for like thebeautiful, uh, blue green color
that you've got in the frontsitting room, uh, which

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (17:21):
Mm,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (17:22):
Um,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (17:23):
thank you.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (17:24):
I could not do that in my house
because it

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (17:27):
No,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (17:27):
way too dark

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (17:28):
right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (17:29):
because if you've got all the trim and
all the detail and the seat,the,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (17:33):
The height.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (17:34):
and, and the grander

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (17:36):
a difference.
I.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (17:36):
room it feels timeless.
Absolutely.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (17:40):
Mm.
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (17:41):
in my home.
It would

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (17:42):
Right,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (17:42):
Home run.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (17:43):
right,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (17:44):
Home run.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (17:44):
right.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1 (17:45):
Beautiful color.
Beautiful color.
I think from the listingaudience, you should put that
color up because it's yum.
Now, if you have a 12 to 12room, don't do it.
Don't do it.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (17:54):
I was gonna say, did I give that
to you?

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (17:55):
I think you gave this one before,
but I'll put it down on the shownotes,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (17:58):
Okay.
I'll make sure I send it rightnow before I forget.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (18:01):
a picture of your, uh, sitting
room and then they can see it,um, and they can see what we're
talking about, like the, the,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (18:07):
Yeah, I can see somebody link that
picture and is like chewingtheir gum.
I'm like, he lives there.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (18:13):
What?

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (18:14):
you know, it's somebody so funny.
We, I, I, you know, I don'tremember what we do half the
time,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (18:18):
Great.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (18:18):
either we were in a house or we taped
something that maybe it's notthat far ag long ago, but it's
something to do with my house,right?
And if you notice me, I'm morecasual than none.
I'm usually in a$4 Walmartt-shirt.
Okay?
Um, I was in a, um, a local

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (18:35):
Oh my God.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (18:35):
picking out something for somebody
person comes in who I don'treally love, but she's like, I
saw your house on tv.
And I said, oh, well thank you.
She said, your house.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (18:51):
Uh.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (18:52):
Pause and say, yeah, I don't live in
the slums.
Her thing was, it was like, Idon't know that she thought I
was, uh, from, still from theholler.
I don't know what she thought,but apparently what I lived in
is not what she expected it tobe.
And I'm like, well.
Yeah.
I, you can, you don't have toput on the dog.
Right.

(19:12):
You know

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (19:13):
Right.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (19:13):
is not for you.
This is for me and this is whatI like.
I don't give two craps what youlike.
Uh,'cause I don't like her.
Anyway.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (19:20):
Well, Lord have mercy.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (19:23):
I, well, you know what, though?
Not, I'm not defending her, butI can see because you are

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (19:27):
Oh, let's see what,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (19:28):
No, no, no.
What I was

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (19:29):
yes, yes.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (19:30):
home is a little more formal, uh, in
places

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (19:34):
I would say yes, for sure.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (19:36):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (19:37):
you as.
Because like you said, you're

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (19:39):
A hundred percent

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (19:40):
and, and

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (19:41):
right?

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (19:42):
and, and all

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (19:43):
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
You

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (19:44):
I think people see you sitting in
a Pottery Barn living room.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (19:49):
so, okay.
Fair enough.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (19:50):
I

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100 (19:50):
Because it's super casual.
It's just, it's linen, it'scomfortable.
It's just got a little blanketover here and some wicker basket
over here, but that's not yourhouse at all.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (20:01):
get in my head why I like the
aesthetic that I liked in, youwanna do a little psychology?
I.
Because it is more formal thannot by far.
Um, the only thing I've landedon is I love old things because
I have a history and I don'thave a family and a, a lineage
of handing me down old things.

(20:21):
So I've acquired the old things.
So old things for me then arefall into two, two categories
and it's crocs and old wickerbaskets and that's not my thing,
which I do let me a good crockor, or it is old silver.
It's alabaster, you know, that'sstone.
Like I will buy me an old pieceof silver with so somebody's

(20:41):
monogram on it all day long,because I look at that I'll go,
isn't that with the people thatthey love?
I've said that before.
And so therefore I want to.
I'm, you all say like thewounded bird.
Well, that wounded bird is thatpiece of monogrammed, uh, silver
that somebody should have beenwith their family and I buy it.
Um, so I have all thismismatched, formal monogrammed

(21:04):
silver because

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (21:05):
Well, Lord, this is all coming
together.
While he brings all these lostsouls in this store to work in
the warehouse, he has foundthese people and he's trying to
match them to a monogrammedplate.
Jesus.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (21:22):
There's the story now we figured it

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (21:24):
Now we know.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (21:26):
now we know, but that's, that's
probably what I don't know, Iguess.
Um, it's so funny.
I had a client to tell me thestory once in the very
comfortable, he had an uncle,and this man was probably in his
early seventies when I met him,and he was, they were building a
house and the story, they had a,an uncle that lived on Fifth
Avenue that was originally fromKentucky, and more casual

(21:49):
enough.
He visited his very well to douncle on Fifth Avenue and they
were being served out the mostbeautiful of Tiffany Silver and
they were opening the, thedishes and out of it was coming
collared greens.
And that's

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (22:03):
Oh,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (22:03):
heart

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (22:04):
you gotta eat.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10 (22:04):
probably who Well at, that's at the heart
of me.
I love that story in that youcould have this beautiful
package, but it's what's insideof it matters more.
Right.
But the packaging.
His can be beautiful andelegant, but what's inside of it
is a surprise.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (22:21):
Oh, I think you're talking about me.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (22:24):
Yeah, I am.
I love it.
I love,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (22:29):
Oh God.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (22:30):
Let's move on.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (22:31):
Okay.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (22:31):
so we'll, we'll get back to color.
'cause, you know, we do love to

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (22:34):
Yes.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (22:35):
I do think that a brighter or a
creamier, or a white or alighter color is, will always
lend itself in mostarchitectural situations to be a
little more timeless,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (22:46):
and I would say dirty white rather
than white.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (22:50):
Then Crisp White.
Yeah.
Then,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (22:51):
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (22:52):
Yeah.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (22:52):
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (22:53):
Um, unless you've got, uh, a, a
home, a historical home likeStewart or even I think a friend
of Nora's Kitchen, when theydid, uh, everything in the, the
new kitchen that

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (23:05):
Yeah.
'cause that's a pretty darkkitchen,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (23:08):
it's a lot of

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (23:08):
but it's

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (23:09):
about it's, it

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (23:10):
not.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (23:11):
in that

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (23:11):
Right,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (23:12):
the character of the house.
so I think the key point of thatis taking, like, look at the
character of the house, look atthe details of the house, and if
that lends itself to you to beable to use some historical
color, that is great.
I would still put a white.
Kitchen in North house, not haveany questions with qualms about
it, but I knew she, that's notwhat she wanted.
Right.
But I think you could have donea white, timeless kitchen in

(23:34):
that house, or you could havedone what she did, which was,
you know, more color and, andall that.
And it still feels very, verytimeless.
And that again, and the, I, Ikeep going back to curated, cur
and curated and wrinkles,because in that, what she did in
her kitchen, um.
With the materials and thecolors and everything, it felt
very collected over time.

(23:54):
It didn't feel like it was brandnew.
And I think that's also reallyimportant if you're trying to do
something that you wanna make itfeel like it's timeless, um, is
that it doesn't feel like youbought the Broyhill collection
altogether, but it feels likeyou've picked it up over time on
your, on your travels or what.
And so that's why I don't alwaysfeel, like I don't have to have
everything done for the house atone time.
Like I can

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (24:14):
Oh no.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (24:15):
it over

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100 (24:15):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (24:16):
Right?
And,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (24:17):
Right,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-1 (24:17):
clients, like if I can get 80%, I feel
really good about the 80% andthen that other 20% we're gonna
find when we find something thatwe really love and it really
speaks and then we can get itthere.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (24:27):
right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (24:27):
Right.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (24:28):
Yeah, it is, you know, like you've
heard me say about our.
Or Ralph Lauren room upstairs.
That's just what we call it,which is basically a sitting
room upstairs'cause it's gotheavy TWA drapery, but then it
has plaid chairs and a maroonsofa and this big ottoman.
And I shit you not Jeremy, myhusband Jeremy,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (24:53):
Yeah, not me.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (24:54):
has brought home about 82 different
sets of pillows for this sofa.
And I have made him take themall back.
I was like, they just don'twork.
He's like, but it has all thecolors in the room.
I said, yeah, but you don't wantthem all on one pillow either.
And he brought some home theother day he was so proud of,

(25:18):
they looked like they should beon the lanai.
Golden Girls.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (25:21):
Oh, Lord.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (25:22):
Oh Lord.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (25:25):
There's that homosexual coming out

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (25:27):
Right.
I said, take'em back.
Take'em back.
He's like, that's, he's like,well, that's why I left the tags
on these.
So,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (25:34):
Thank

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (25:34):
but you know, it is, that's, it's
curating that look.
So yes, been looking for somepillows for that particular
space, but the, we'll find them,you know,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (25:45):
it'll, it'll take some time.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (25:47):
and.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (25:47):
give the listening audience some
pretty colors'cause I'm actuallyuse you all a little bit.
Pretty soft off white colorthat, uh, you all been using or
have used?
Uh, I have landed on Creamy as amaybe possibility.
And that's from Williams.
Have you all used that?
Is it a little too yellow?

(26:08):
kind of

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (26:09):
know any of them

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (26:09):
playing with that a

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (26:10):
Uh, uh, I, I don't really use
Sherwin Williams.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (26:15):
I Okay, well let's keep going.
So,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (26:17):
Been,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1 (26:17):
alabaster is that?
Sherman

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (26:19):
that's Sherwin Williams.
Also,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (26:21):
sure

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100 (26:21):
there's a compliment.
I'm gonna, um, I.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (26:23):
have him, I'm sure.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (26:24):
I am gonna give you two that are kind
of my favorites right now, and Iactually put them in our house
in the addition, when we put thebedroom on linen.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (26:36):
I've used, okay, lemme tell you.
Greek Villa Serm Williams.
Have you used that one?
I know Stewart, maybe not.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (26:42):
I, I, I actually have used that
one.
It is pretty,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (26:44):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
What, what linen,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (26:47):
um, simply White.
Simply White from Ben Moore.
I'll send this to Jeremy too.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (26:53):
also.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (26:55):
Uh, linen is also a bit more simply
white is a little dirty.
Linen is actually more clean.
So

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (27:02):
Be the, yeah.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (27:03):
yeah, you'd think it would be the
opposite.
But I'm gonna send this,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (27:06):
Yep.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (27:06):
I'm sending it to him right now
while I'm talking about it.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (27:08):
Well.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (27:09):
Okay.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (27:10):
there is another one from Ben Moore if
you want a little bit morebrown.
It's called Maritime White.
And that reads, um.
In daylight, it reads kind ofcrisp, but at night it
definitely turns almost toasted.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (27:31):
Oh, ooh yum.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (27:32):
Yeah, I'll send that Tim too, and

dwayne_1_03-13-202 (27:33):
candlelight.
Okay, perfect.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (27:35):
Yeah, and I'll send that Tim too, so
you can put up there.
So there, I just sent him bothof those.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (27:39):
you know, with discussing these, uh,
lighter creamier white colors, Idon't want people to also feel
like you have to have, it has tobe white.
Right.
Like to, to be timeless.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (27:48):
yeah, no.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (27:49):
and it does.
And you can't have color.
'cause that's, that's not thesituation either.
So I think the smartest thing todo when you're trying to do, and
I, a timeless design, I, Idescribe timeless as.
And I think that we're probablyon the same page with this is
if, if you redid something,someone looks at it and they
don't know if you redid it twoyears ago, 20 years ago.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (28:13):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (28:14):
Right.
It, it feels like it could havejust been update updated, but it
feels like it still feels trueto the space of the time.
Right.
It just doesn't feel like itdoesn't have that damn glass
tile back splash that everybodyused in the nineties from Lowe's
in the back of the kitchens.
Right.
Or the early two thousands.
So.
It's doing that to where itfeels like it's kind of like
ambiguous of when it could bedone, but it still always feels

(28:35):
updated and fresh.
Right.
That that's how I updated fresh,but also true to the historical

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (28:41):
Uh, so, and I think a good, uh,
mainstream, I guess, publicationthat shows timeless design well
is Architectural Digest andsometimes Southern Living
Magazine, because I think bothof those show things that were
relevant in 1965, and they'rerelevant today as well.

(29:03):
And, and a lot of the interiorsthat they show in both of those
magazines are very indicative ofthat.
And that's what's timeless tome, where you don't really know.
It's like, oh, did Aunt Matildapreserve this house?
Or did you just come in and dothis house?
You know, so yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (29:23):
me it's, I don't want it to feel so
preserved.
I just want it to feel

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (29:27):
Well collected.
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03 (29:29):
Constantly fresh, but curated,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10 (29:31):
Correct.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (29:31):
that makes sense.
That makes sound like anoxymoron, but I.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (29:34):
No, no, no.
Everybody's trying to get rid ofgray now.
Everybody's like, I'm sick ofgray.
Sick, sick of gray.
Uh, be careful.
'cause classic gray is classicif you got

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (29:43):
It is.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (29:44):
brown undertone to it.
There's a color, uh, out therethat I will still use every
single day if it's youraesthetic called revere pewter,
which has been there for athousand years.
So it's a really.
Brown, gray, gray, brown.
It depends on who, see who yousee it, and the lighting and
stuff like that.
If you are a, a, a, a warmerperson that wants a little color
to it, I still to this day justlove, love, love that color.

(30:06):
So I think that that should not

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (30:08):
Well it

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (30:09):
off the, the radar.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (30:10):
and that is a gray, that definitely
changes in location and daylightand nighttime too.
In, in the Loft I had downtown,the entire thing was painted.
Revere Peter, anybody who camethere.
Asked me what all the differentcolors were in all the rooms.
I was like, it is the same paintin the entire space.

(30:33):
They're like, no, yourbathroom's green.
I'm like, no, it's not.
It's the same paint.
They're like, well, yourbedroom's charcoal.
Nope, same paint.
It's just it because it playswith light so well.
So that is a wonderful gray touse.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (30:48):
Mm mm

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (30:49):
Yeah.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (30:49):
A hundred percent.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (30:50):
Yeah.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (30:51):
percent

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (30:51):
So you can have, color.
I also think that Stewart, whatyou mentioned about like your,
your, the condo that you down,uh, downtown was, uh, not condo,
but the,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (31:00):
The loft.
Yeah.
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (31:02):
Um, that, having that.
Continuation of color or a colorpalette throughout a a home also
kind of lends itself to creatingan overall feeling of a little
bit more timeless.
Not saying you can't do colors,a different color in a bedroom
or a different color like hereor there, but if you can have
something that continues, likewe talked about, the hardwood

(31:23):
floors throughout your house, ifyou can have something, I think
colorway that.
Connects through it all andstill be able to add your little
accents and things.
I also think that that kind ofhelps for the whole personality
of the house.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (31:35):
Yeah.
Consistency.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (31:36):
A little bit of

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (31:37):
Yeah.
Well,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (31:38):
Who, who of all of us have harbor
floors in at least their master,if not all their bedrooms.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (31:44):
so

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (31:44):
car.
Actually,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (31:45):
here, here's where I'm gonna buck.
I didn't put hardwood in ourmaster.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (31:50):
soon as you said that you

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (31:51):
Huh?
And I did I on purpose because.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (31:55):
me why.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (31:55):
Well, now there was hardwood in the
original primary there.
Right.
But when you all built

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1 (31:59):
Upstairs.
Yes.
When we put the addition on

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (32:02):
you did

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (32:02):
and had to build it new, I
specifically didn't put hardwoodin that part, just that room
because my bedroom to me iswhere I'm gonna go that nobody
else can go,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (32:15):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (32:16):
and I will relax in there.
And I want to feel that on my.
Feet after a day of being onthem for 12 hours.
I want to take my shoes off.
I want squishy.
I want soft.
When I wake up in the morning,that's what I want to feel.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (32:31):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (32:31):
my other homes had hardwood in the
bedroom, but I always put a rugdown.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (32:36):
Yeah.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (32:37):
So,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (32:37):
Yeah.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (32:38):
know, just because I, I didn't want
it.
And honestly, you know, and it,and it wasn't even a cost thing.
It was just, I want carpet inthis room period.
You know?
That's

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1 (32:51):
Generally is your,'cause it's older
loftier, is it a, is it, is thehouse physically cold or is it
No, it

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (33:00):
Tara.
Um,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (33:02):
Yes.
Yes.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (33:05):
so no, um, two guests coming.
Some people say it's cold, a.
I'm used to living in a hundredplus year old houses, so I, I,
I'm just used to it.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (33:19):
It, it's,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (33:20):
But now I will say our bathroom, our
new bathroom is cold.
Um,'cause you know, it's a lotof tile, it's a lot of marble

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (33:27):
And a lot of windows.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (33:28):
and a lot of windows.
And somebody was being cheap andwouldn't put in heated floors
when we were doing it.
I don't know who that was.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (33:35):
who that could be either.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (33:36):
And this winter when it has been
real cold, I was like, I don'tknow why we didn't put heated
floors in this.
And the comment goes back, it'slike, well, somebody's ass
clenched.
That's why we couldn't do it.
So

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (33:50):
My

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (33:50):
that's all me.
But anyhow, that bathroom is anentire,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (33:57):
on every client

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (33:58):
know I will.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (33:59):
you?

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (33:59):
You know, and that bathroom is an
entire wall of windows, so that.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (34:03):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100 (34:03):
Doesn't help when it gets the north wind
when it's 20 below, so whatever.
But

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (34:10):
Okay.
Yeah, no,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (34:11):
the hou,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (34:11):
uh.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (34:12):
house is warm.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (34:13):
is hardwood floor.
Right?
As soon as I said that out loud,I was

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (34:15):
I.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (34:16):
I backed into a corner.
'cause like I remember that.
And I, it doesn't seem off, itdoesn't seem inappropriate and
what, you know, and, uh, thevisual is, I, I, it, it's wool.
It feels cozy.
It feels warm.
So when you're articulatingthose definitions of why it's
important, why you did it thatway, you achieved it

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (34:33):
Right.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (34:33):
it

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (34:34):
Yes.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (34:34):
like a warm cocoon.
It

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (34:36):
Right.
And that's what I, that's what Iwanted.
Yeah.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (34:38):
it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I get it.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (34:41):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (34:41):
cool.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (34:42):
I guess I, the whole point of that
one is generally other than thisone that people kind of wince
when you say, let's put hardwoodfloors in a bedroom.
I, I think that's okay.
Generally, you know, this is

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (34:52):
No, it, it, it is okay because all
of the other bedrooms havehardwood floors like the rest of
the house.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (34:58):
it was just that his arthritic

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (35:00):
It was, it was my, my knees needed
that cushion.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (35:07):
I love it.
Lord.
One day we'll get the Barker

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (35:10):
Oh,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (35:10):
for it.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (35:10):
oh,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (35:11):
we go.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (35:12):
never.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (35:13):
Never.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (35:14):
Well, there's two other places where I
think that we should quickly,like,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (35:17):
Okay.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (35:18):
trying to figure out how to approach it
in a, in a timeless way.
And one is hardware as far aslike whether we can talk about,
um, like door hardware, but morespecifically probably like,
faucets and things like that.
Because I think that you canreally muck it up that way if
you don't, if you don't do itthat

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (35:34):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025 (35:35):
to do it in a timeless way.
And the other thing is windowtreatments.
I think that, that you can backyourself into a corner and be
screwed if

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100 (35:43):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (35:43):
you do so, if you

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (35:44):
And those are not cheap

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (35:45):
No.
And

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (35:46):
do again.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (35:47):
one of those are things that you do
that you wanna screw up.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (35:49):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (35:50):
um,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (35:51):
It's funny.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (35:52):
like bathrooms um, faucets and all
those kinda things, I willalways tend to try to find
something that lends itself to amore historical kind of like,
design.
it's been updated.
I don't want something thatlooks brand new and modern, but
I want something that has alittle bit of, a little bit of
fluff, a little bit ofsomething.
Um, I love cross cross handles.

(36:14):
I've always loved those.
Um, but,

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (36:17):
And most of the time that's a very
hard sale for me with clients.
They almost never wanna do it.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (36:23):
they

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (36:23):
I love it.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (36:24):
for me, that's, that's where

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (36:25):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (36:26):
you

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (36:26):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (36:26):
the levers, sometimes they, for me,
they get a little too modern.
Right?

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100 (36:30):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (36:30):
but that's where I always tend to go
is, um, finding something thathas a little bit, and again,
this, maybe this is because ofthe home leave I lived in.
A modern condo downtown, forexample.
I would approach it in acompletely different way, but in
the house that we live now withthe character that we have, I
want it to feel like it's reallytimeless.
I try to find something that hasa little bit of that historical,

(36:51):
like old styling, but has beenupdated and that's where I
always updated traditional.
That's usually, that's my go-toof trying to figure out that way
versus doing super modernhardware, which I don't think
you're gonna make a mistake ifyou GOs more modern, but I do
think it feels more.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (37:07):
Let me stop you there.
So,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (37:08):
could be a disaster,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (37:10):
Right.
That's what I was gonna say.
Trendy.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (37:12):
on to get people to understand what
is timeless, part of the layerof what timeless is, it depends
on the setting.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (37:20):
that's

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (37:20):
Right.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (37:21):
yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (37:22):
Well, so I need them to hear that
timeless can be a modernaesthetic if it's age
appropriate,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (37:29):
right, if you.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (37:30):
it needs to be timeless in the more
traditional house.
So there's two differentdefinitions of what timeless can
be, but it is related to thesetting and the aesthetic that
you have tried or are in thatmakes it timeless,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (37:43):
Right.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (37:43):
they need to hear that.
They need to hear that.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (37:46):
Yeah.
I mean, you can have amid-century house and it's still
timeless.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (37:49):
Oh,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (37:49):
As long as you're treated that way,
you know, don't put Victorianfurniture in it, then it's
stupid, but.
I mean, you know, I mean that'swhat it is.
So it really is indicative ofthe setting itself.
And what we're all talking aboutis settings of our personal
homes and how we think they'retimeless.
You know, and it's funny,Jeremy, you brought up window
treatments and um, faucets.

(38:12):
I instantly went to how yourartwork is framed to me.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (38:17):
Oh, that's another great way.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (38:18):
And 'cause we also know that I'm
kind of picky on that anyway,but I will throw a modern piece
in when I put a picture of my,of the front room up, there's a
huge modern piece of art rightin the middle of it.
But everything else is so not.
So it is that contrast that Ilike, but it's in a timeless
setting with an updated pop inyour face.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (38:40):
Yeah.
And it's not that you can't havethose things ab,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (38:43):
Yeah.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13- (38:43):
right.
It's about, I always say likeit.
You do the the biggest part ofyour surrounding if you want a
timeless surrounding, then findthose things that really make
you happy, that

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (38:53):
Right,

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (38:53):
bring you the joy and put those in
there and they're gonna feellike they, like they have the
right home.
Right?
You can't put that everywhere,but you can have that, like,
that, like, like your heart.
Absolutely.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (39:06):
right, right.
It's all cool.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (39:08):
Um, drag

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (39:09):
Okay.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (39:10):
Um, real quick we'll do with this,
um, the days of Jabos and swags.
And Lord God, help us.
I hope, I hope that they'regone, but if you're, if, um, if
you live in a Victorian home andwe, and you need to do it, it
makes sense.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (39:23):
I hope Diane's not listening.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (39:25):
no, listen, our friend Diane,

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (39:27):
She is become a little progressive.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (39:29):
has updated, she, she has

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (39:32):
saw yes.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (39:33):
She has updated and I think the, the
easiest or the simplest, or thesafest thing for you to do is
just do straight pinch pleapanels.
you're never gonna go wrong withthem.
Pinch pleat is, can feel modern,can feel classic, can feel
traditional.
It, you know, it, they can goall, all the different
directions.
I wouldn't go super crazy inpattern.
do something safer linen, youknow, some kind of textural

(39:57):
thing, always right?
Wrap yourself in the

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (39:59):
Yep.
Yep.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-1 (40:00):
pattern.
And then you

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (40:01):
Yep.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (40:02):
the things on top of it.
But if you do that, you're notgonna put it up and be like, in
five years, be like, oh God, Ihate those things.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (40:08):
Right.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (40:08):
No.
The thing is, it sounds reallyboring and conservative, but a
good beige off white pinch,pleat drapery that's tailored
and well executed.
Yeah.
Never

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (40:18):
It can go anywhere.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_1005 (40:20):
wrong.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (40:20):
Yeah, it can go anywhere.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2025_ (40:21):
a tape trim

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_100504 (40:22):
Yep.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-20 (40:22):
edge if you wanna add you some color,
if you wanna add a little bit ofsomething there, that's the way
to do it.
But

stuart_1_03-13-2025_1002 (40:27):
Right.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13 (40:28):
always.
Wonderful.
Um, well, I hope everybodylearned something new today.
We learned that Stewart's cheap,that I would just live in a
white box and that Dwayne likeswounded birds, so I.

dwayne_1_03-13-2025_10050 (40:42):
There you go.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_10021 (40:43):
There it is.
There it is.

jeremy-guest263_1_03- (40:45):
Hopefully you learned some additional
things today in our podcast.
New episodes are released everyWednesday.
If you have any opinions oranything you wanna tell us
about, you can call us on ourhotline at 1 8 5 9 4 1 2 1 5 7
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HouseFloral, please do.
We're, we have started our livesales again, Stewart and I did
one last night for Spring.

(41:06):
It was lots of fun.
And we're getting ready tolaunch a new series called Lunch
with the Boys that they probablydon't know about

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (41:13):
Ooh, I'm so excited.
I'm so excited

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-2 (41:16):
Yeah.
And they'll look at

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100 (41:17):
because it's daytime hours.
It's daytime hours, Dwayne.

jeremy-guest263_1_03-13-202 (41:20):
um, that you'll also have access to
in our app.
So be sure to check it outthere.
Until next week, we hope youhave a joy filled week and we
will see you all then.
Thanks guys.

stuart_1_03-13-2025_100219 (41:30):
Bye