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stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (00:00):
Oh, where did that come from?

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (00:03):
She don't even know that.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (00:05):
A big ha, like a big hair just
went flying outta thismicrophone.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (00:10):
I walked past his office this
morning, Jeremy, and he was inthere coughing his hair.
I'm like, what the hell?
I just looked at him.
I was like, bless him.
He's so cute.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (00:19):
I saw myself in the reflection of
my computer screen.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (00:23):
Is that what it was?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (01:28):
Uh.

dwayne-guest678_1_0 (01:30):
Podcasters.
Extraordinaire.
has been on it today.
He's had TV crews here.
He's had been talking to the themedia, and so when we started,
we rep punted about what we'regonna talk about in the podcast.
And so today, because Jeremy'sfeeling the church,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (01:52):
Oh

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (01:52):
gonna talk about all things running
your.
Business and what it's been likein dealing with the tariff and
all the trials and tribulationsthat we have been going through
now and in the past.
And lord knows what in thefuture, what's gonna be.
Uh, but, uh, we wanna kind oftell you, um, done preemptive

(02:13):
strikes and kind of what we'redoing and so kind of just let
you know.
Is that a good setup?

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (02:18):
that the T word we were gonna talk
about?
'cause I thought we were talkingabout tube tops.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (02:22):
No.
No.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (02:23):
Oh, the T word.
I thought, I thought it wastestosterone.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (02:31):
Nope.
Nope, Nope.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (02:33):
for today, for me it has been
fucking tariffs.
That has been,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (02:39):
Um,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (02:39):
has been all I have talked about
today.
And just so y'all know mylisten,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (02:44):
sorry.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (02:45):
that I could murder someone.
Do something.
I think I could create a cultand murder someone.
And if I was on the news and Ididn't tell my mother about it
so she could watch it, she'd bedisappointed if I'm gonna be on
there, she wants to see it.
So I knew when I left I neededto call Mama and be

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (03:02):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (03:03):
You are that?

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (03:04):
I have been

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161 (03:05):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (03:05):
all the new shows today.
I have spoken with them.
I, my face is gonna be plasteredall over this tv.
I don't know when they'reairing.
I think I know, but here's itwas like, so I'm just calling to
let you know,'cause you alwayswant to know.
And you know what, the firstthing she said was.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (03:18):
No.
No.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (03:19):
Did you curse?

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (03:22):
Well, she knows you.
She knows you.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (03:24):
and I said, no, mama.
edited myself.
You don't have to

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161 (03:30):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1 (03:30):
censoring me or bleeping me on the news.
And I thought that's what shewas worried about.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (03:37):
Oh,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (03:38):
bless

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (03:38):
that's okay.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (03:39):
that

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (03:40):
It's legit.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (03:40):
just a little.
It's legit.
She tore you down just a little.
Uh, I don't know that.
I know it stings from your mom,from somebody that cares, but
she wasn't wrong.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (03:52):
Oh no.
And then, no.
No, because, xxx xxx xxxx xxxxx,xxxxx xxxxxx xxxx xxxxxx xxxx
xxxx xxxxxxxxx.
but that's how I feel about it.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (04:03):
Okay.
What did, what did you tell themedia today?
What did you want the people toknow?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (04:10):
Well, what he wanted the people to
know and what he told the mediaare two different stories.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (04:16):
this is, this is explicit rating,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (04:18):
It is.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10- (04:19):
pretty much say what you want in this
one.
You be okay.
I don't know if you need to, butyou can if you need to.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (04:24):
No, you know, it's, it's so funny.
Like anybody who's ever beeninterviewed anything, um, you
know that usually going into it,you have, a goal in mind.
This is what you wanna talkabout.
And then the person whointerviews, they're gonna send
in whatever direction they wantto.
Um.
of'em were, were veryinterested.
Well, what we have been able todo, I think to try to prepare

(04:46):
for this insanity of, of what'sgoing on right now is totally
different than what a lot ofother retailers that we know of,
especially in our area, plusaround the country, are able to
do.
Because we have, a lot of, ofspace and, and we can hold
products.
So we

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (05:02):
We got a big warehouse.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (05:04):
Yeah, and

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (05:05):
Right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (05:05):
were able to absorb.
A product that we ordered inJanuary that was technically
ordered for fall and Christmas,and they already had quite a bit
of it allocated for us.
And we were able to take a goodchunk, not all of it, but a good
chunk, uh, of stuff and take itand so store it.

(05:25):
And so we were able to get itthe tariffs had to be applied.
Now, by the way, when we weretalking about, when we're
talking about tariffs, it is.
Lord, y'all listeners, y'alljust gonna have to bear with me
today because it, it's, I'mtired.
I, I, I

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (05:41):
So, yes,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (05:43):
think I'm gonna curse a lot today, and
I don't mean to, I know thatit's

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (05:46):
it, well, so, and I think too, what
you're getting ready to go intois that tariffs aren't new.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (05:53):
No,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (05:54):
It's not, it's not a new concept.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (05:55):
No.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (05:56):
always been there, but it's been a, a
amenable percentage amount.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1613 (06:04):
Right.
It's been manageable in

stuart_1_04-10-2025 (06:05):
Manageable.
Yes.
So this isn't like a new conceptthat's just destroying the
world.
What's destroying the world isother things that we don't talk
about on this podcast, buttariffs have gone through the
roof.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (06:17):
It's, it

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (06:18):
Yeah.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (06:19):
what I tried to explain to, the
people that stopped by was, youknow, we have been through this
before.
We have dealt with tariffs.
Tariffs are an economic movethat politicians can use to do a
lot of things.
One of them is to protect theirown domestic interests and then
also to punish others.
Um.
And the difference between thistime and the only other time

(06:42):
that I really remember having todeal with some of these crazy,
um, tariffs, that before when wewere given an amount, that
amount basically kind of stayedwhat it was.
It might have just a little bit,but in between the time of the
news people saying, Hey, wewanna come chat with you, The
tariffs went from, well, it was34%, and then it was, 50 more

(07:07):
percent.
Then it got to 104% then it wentto 125, and I think I saw
something earlier today wherenow it's 130 something.
It nobody knows what's going on.
And so what I try to tell thenews people is that what we've
heard discussing or what I'veheard, because I've talked to.
Our friend, Shaer, who is itwith?

(07:27):
One of our vendors.
I've talked with, uh, one of ourreps, Susanna, who's said
another one.
Everybody's running aroundreally with a, like a chicken
with their head cut off becausenobody knows what's going on and
nobody knows what the numbersare, so nobody can make a plan
of what to do.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (07:42):
Right,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (07:43):
why I

dwayne-guest678_1_04- (07:43):
Including us.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1 (07:44):
including

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1 (07:45):
Including us.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (07:46):
on the ball

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (07:46):
It's.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (07:47):
worst case scenario

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (07:48):
It

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (07:49):
case scenario, we took all this
stuff, we now have it.
We are prepared.
For the holiday season when itgets here for, for a lot of the
stuff.
Right.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (07:57):
right.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (07:57):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (07:58):
won't be anything applied to anything
else.
So we'll be okay.
Like that's best case scenario.
Like,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (08:03):
Okay.
What do you mean it won't beapplied to?
do you mean by that?
Jeremy?
What are you telling the people?

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (08:09):
Well, well, it's just that nobody,
because it keeps changing and wedon't know when.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (08:15):
mean that we don't pay for all this
and we don't, we don't pass italong.
We, we that, that we eat allthis or the customer has to pay
for the tariff?
Is that what you're saying?

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (08:28):
Yes, it

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (08:28):
Oh goodness.
My.
Because I've had people in myworld say, well, it's not gonna
cost anything.
The manufacturers will just payfor that.
What world are you in?
What world are you in?
So literally, this just, justjust happened.
My my sweet mama.
Needed to buy a new car becauseof convenience issues because my

(08:52):
dad couldn't get in and outta ofthe other car that he had'cause
of a health issue.
Long story is we didn't buy thecar because of the tariff thing
instantly last Friday in therain is because we were backed
into a corner because of otherissues.
However, when we were buying thecar.
The finance person, thesalesperson was wonderful, but
the finance person was, mm,injected, not wonderful fool

(09:14):
that she was with talking aroundthe circle that she was trying
to sell.
What was it?
Uh, Stewart, uh,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16 (09:19):
Extended warranty.
She went to extended warranty.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-1 (09:22):
thought, what did she.
Do.
I was like, she was this bog dogand pony show and I couldn't
figure it out, but she's like,well you can, you can do this
and this guarantee if you dothis because, you know, parks
have already, um, they'vealready told us that park are
going up 27%.
this is before all this otherstuff is released.
Right.
I'm like, Lord have mercy.
don't want your car to tear up'cause you're gonna be able to

(09:43):
fix it as it is.
So, uh, so what she was tellingme is.
The manufacturer now, thedealer, they're not eating the
costs, they're passing it on tothe consumer.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (09:55):
Right.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (09:56):
So what we've done right with
getting in, I heard the number17 pallets.
I don't know if that's a correctanswer or not, but

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (10:04):
more

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (10:05):
I see a whole, huh?

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (10:06):
with more

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (10:07):
We, we got in 12.
We had five the day before.
We've got approximately, I think11 more coming that I know of.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-1 (10:17):
serious?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (10:18):
Yeah,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (10:18):
Don't

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (10:19):
yeah,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-1 (10:19):
getting, making me get my crap outta
there.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (10:21):
I know.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (10:21):
Uh,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (10:21):
It's like, move your corner out.
Get it out.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (10:27):
I guess what I pivot to though is
we, we, we.
We can't fix what's happening,but what we can

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (10:33):
No.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (10:34):
be proactive.
So now hearing that we have 22massive pallets of product here,
that we don't have to raise oneprice.
Right.
And that's, that's

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (10:43):
on what we have

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (10:45):
on what

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (10:45):
in the store.
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (10:47):
Well, and but that's a

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (10:48):
Which is why we released it.
Right.
Which is a lot of, a lot ofstuff.
And there were a few, you know,and that's predominantly
Christmas stuff that we.
Have back there and arebasically hoarding like toilet
paper from Covid.
But I mean, that's what we justdid.
But

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (11:09):
I didn't think

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (11:09):
there are also a few, uh, home decor
companies who offer the same.
Thing that if it was in theirstock right now, if we got it
outta their warehouse.
So we have ordered those thingsas well to have not just
flowers, we'll have the prettystuff as well.
So we are being proactive ingetting it in here, keeping it

(11:30):
at a lower price because youknow, who knows by, I don't
know, next week, tomorrow, wellnow we know there's a nine now.
Well now we know there's a 90day stay on a lot of it, but

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (11:42):
right

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (11:43):
after.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (11:43):
for, except for

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (11:44):
Ex, except for China, but after 90
days, who knows?

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (11:48):
that?
Where's our stuff come from,Jeremy?

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (11:51):
Well, we do, things come from a lot of
different places, but you know,we all know that most of the
things that we have for seasonalhome decor comes in from China.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (12:01):
Would you say 93% comes from China in
our shop?

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (12:04):
when I talked, when the, the news guy
asked me this morning, I said, I

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (12:06):
Yep.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (12:07):
90%.
I don't think it's

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (12:08):
Yeah.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (12:09):
it's

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (12:09):
Yeah.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1 (12:10):
somewhere

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (12:10):
There's some South Korea and

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (12:11):
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (12:12):
Mexico, there's some things India,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (12:14):
From Vietnam, Thailand, Singapore,
Canada, Mexico.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (12:19):
is China.
And my frustration on this oneis I can't say that I don't
disagree that things have becomeunbalanced and we don't need to
edit and we don't need to changethings.
And tariffs can be, if usedcorrectly, a good tool, right?
it has to be methodical.
Right.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (12:38):
Sure.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (12:39):
the other dance of it is you can't
fix things that our government'sput into place for the last 70
years.
Right or wrong, you can't fix itovernight.
Right.
There has to be a plan, andthat's my frustration on this.
I don't disagree politicallythat I don't want my drugs,
medicine made in China.

(12:59):
I just don't.
Right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (13:00):
Or

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (13:00):
I don't want it made in India.
Right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (13:02):
Mm-hmm.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (13:02):
that back.
Okay, but let's, let'sconcentrate piece by piece.
Methodical.
And I don't know that I'm tooworried about having a silk
flower made in China that I needto make it get in Indiana
tomorrow.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (13:17):
What?
I told,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (13:19):
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (13:20):
told one of the news guys this
morning, I was like, you know,one of the guys in the online
department had dinner withfriends the other night, and
they were

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (13:27):
he has friends.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (13:29):
He does.
He

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (13:29):
I'm

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (13:30):
He had dinner with, some supporters
of the tariffs that were, werereally, really excited about it,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (13:37):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (13:37):
and he was trying to explain to
them, you know, the situationand they said, well just buy
from American made companies.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (13:44):
Yes, all those American floral
twisters.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (13:48):
and so he tried to explain to them
that it, it doesn't, thatdoesn't exist here.
I.
And so what I was trying toexplain to the news people, I
was like, it's not that we don'twant to buy from American
companies.
The what first people need tounderstand is we are buying from
American companies who work withfactories overseas or own the

(14:08):
factories overseas, right?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161 (14:10):
Correct

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (14:10):
a lot of them

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10- (14:11):
That's

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (14:11):
that, that's what I wanted to bring up
to.
Right, right.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (14:14):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (14:15):
You know, they have this product,
you know, they, they did used tomake things here, but, you know,
25, 30, I don't know how manyyears ago that this, a lot of
this moved over, uh, overseas invarious places.
But in that amount of time,infrastructure was built.
Technology has changed.
Talents.
I mean, it's an art.

(14:35):
A lot of these flowers are hand,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (14:37):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (14:37):
cut, hand put together, hand colored,
hand painted, all those kind ofthings.
We don't have a workforce thatcan just start adding this to
their little factory line tomake tomorrow.
This is, this is not how thisworks.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (14:50):
We don't have the factory to build
them in.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (14:53):
have the fact.
So I mean,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (14:54):
We need that as well.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (14:55):
years that takes to, to build all that
stuff and then

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (14:57):
Right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (14:58):
put in.
And um, he goes, oh yeah.
And I was like, well now thereis one factory, uh, and it's not
really a factory, but it's a,uh, they make flowers, they make
'em by hand, but now theylisten, they make'em in New York
City.
I remembered seeing this, onsome kind of documentary along,
maybe five, 10 years ago.
And I looked, and they are stillaround, they.

(15:18):
Hand make flowers to go for morefashion purposes.
So they make silk flowers forhats and clothing and things
like that.
So a complete different what wedo, right?
When I look to see what theyhad, let's say our ous, our
little single stem ulu, so thehead of it's like two and a half

(15:39):
inches wide.
Okay.
If that, maybe three incheswide, pretty hand done stem,
foliage, leaf.
Okay, we have it.
I can't remember if it's 4, 9 5or 5, 9, 5, I can't remember the
price point.
It's one of those two when yousee the same, not the same.
'cause again, it's completelydifferent'cause this is fashion.
But when you look at a size of aflower head that's from this

(16:01):
company that makes it here inthe country, it doesn't come
with a stem.
It doesn't come with anyfoliage, it doesn't come with
any, any of that.
It's just purely the head thatyou can then attach onto a hat
or whatever.
A flower costs$28 and up.
And this

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161 (16:18):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (16:18):
was, you know, now I'm, in New York,
so there's some additional costsinvolved with, I'm sure that
they have to mark up something.
Sure.
I'm sure.
But the, we're talking aboutwhat we carry that is realistic
and handmade and a lot of effortto put into it.
That can't be just replicated.
And it looks like, I mean, ifwe, once I kind of showed him

(16:40):
the example of like, here's thisand here's this.
There's no way we can, we can'tdo, we can't do this overnight.
Would I love for it to comeback?
That'd be great, but I don'tknow who I.
is gonna sit in a factory bepaid pennies.
I mean, people complain aboutgetting paid$16 at, at
McDonald's.
And listen, I'm not, I'm notcomplaining about,$15 minimum

(17:02):
wage.
should be able to be paid aliving wage.
Right?
I

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (17:06):
Sure.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (17:06):
that's, that's a very important thing,
right?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (17:08):
Right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (17:08):
Um.
So I'm not saying that somebodyshould get paid, you know, and I
don't know what these people getpaid in, in these factories.
Um, but for where they live andwhere they are, they are able to
make a living that they're notliving in a place with dirt
floors.
Right.
Like they're

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (17:24):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (17:28):
you know, I don't know what kind of
output you'd have to have inthis country to make that, but
I, I just don't think thatmanufacturing of a 4, 9 5 flower
is gonna come back to thiscountry anytime soon.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (17:38):
Right.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (17:39):
I can, I can see car
manufacturing.
Right?
I can imagine

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (17:43):
Sure.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (17:44):
I can s

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (17:45):
here.
Do you know that the BMW factoryin North Carolina is BMW's
biggest factory?

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (17:49):
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
I'm a car person, so, yeah,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (17:52):
not, I

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (17:53):
yeah,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (17:53):
this morning.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (17:55):
yeah.
Yeah.
I am a proponent for medicinesbeing made in the States.
Absolutely.
Um, anything pharmaceutical, Ifeel like we should be more
protective of if you digest itor put it on your body.
In your body, on your body.
I'm kind of more wanting to, tostay in the States.

(18:15):
I'm, I'm.
Really, I have to, you know,even the bandaid, like I, I
think a bandaid probably shouldbe

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (18:20):
Well, Lauren.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10- (18:21):
Right.
Well, I'm telling you I want itmade in the states.
I'm not, and I'm not stuck onjust us.
I'm not sure though,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (18:28):
Well,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (18:29):
is something that needs to be made
here.
It's just, it's just a differentprice point.
And like these beautifulporcelain containers that we
order in and brought them, madefrom China.
Are Chinese, it's called Chinfor a Reason.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (18:43):
right

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (18:44):
a French word, meaning Chinese
like

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (18:48):
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (18:49):
yeah.
So they're made in China andpainted in China and depict
seems for a reason.
So therefore, why should they benow twice as expensive as what
it was a week ago?
That's, you know, that's asininefor me.
That's just foolishness,foolishness.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (19:07):
Well, another thing that I was
speaking of that Chinese, that,that porcelain, one of the
things that I told, um, and Idon't think that this was in one
of the news stories, but I wastelling him what, uh, our friend
Papa Bear, uh, was telling us.
And

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (19:18):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (19:19):
is his nickname, but he, uh, he
owns a.
Antique kind of reproductioncompany, outta St.
Louis.
And he carries a lot of staff,shirt dogs.
he carries a lot of blue, bluewhite port, a lot of that kind
of that wear, right?
So a

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (19:34):
Right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (19:34):
ri like all those things.
And, he was telling us that, youknow, a lot of this stuff's hand
painted.
It's done by an artist overseas,right?
Like this.
A lot of this stuff's not justapplied, it's done by an artist
they're having a hard timefinding.
People

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (19:50):
The artist right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (19:51):
to do it.
And so a lot of these designsaren't being able to be moved
forward because lot of peoplearen't wanting to move into the
factory to work well.
I'm like, if you don't want, ifpeople don't wanna do that over
there, they Sure.
Can you imagine somebody tryingto do this over here?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (20:05):
No.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (20:06):
No.
I mean there, there's

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161 (20:07):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (20:08):
no, and what I was trying to say to
him is listen, I understand thatwe have a retail store and we
sell things.
And we, we make money from thatto then pay our bills and then
hopefully be able to payourselves something, you know,
something decent.
Right?
But at the end of the day,capitalism is basically
exploitation of the lowest.
Meaning where a lot of thingsare often made is where it can
be made the cheapest alwaysright.

(20:30):
So there was a long period oftime where that was China.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (20:34):
Right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (20:34):
seen, speaking to a lot of our
vendors, that they're now movingout of China, they're going into
other areas.
Some new things are getting madein Indians, some things are

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (20:42):
Yeah.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (20:42):
in, uh,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_ (20:43):
Indonesia, Malaysia.
Yeah.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (20:45):
because the middle class that was built
in China has grown.
And now those people are wantingto do other things.
They're not wanting to work infactories.
Right,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (20:53):
It's, it's acquired wealth and they
that they

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (20:55):
they've

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10- (20:55):
longer have to work in the factory just
like,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (20:58):
Right.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (20:58):
an American.
They no longer.
I keep hearing that, that wefactories and people wanna work
in factories.
I don't believe that's true.
I really sincerely just, I'veseen America, I.
And they are fat and lazy and Ijust don't think they wanna work
in the factory.
Right?
I'm lumping myself into that,right?
Uh, maybe this is true, there'san audience, but I don't think
we have enough to justify allmanufacturing to come back to

(21:21):
the states.
I just really don't believe thatonce it's all said, done.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (21:24):
I think the whole point because,
you know.
We've always, you know, made abusiness on not talking about
politics, but this whole podcastis just about that.
But it also affects everybody,not just us.
It, it affects every singleperson in the United States

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (21:43):
want people to hear this.
This is not an R or a D beat up.
It

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (21:49):
no, not at all.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (21:51):
or it's just not.
It's just not because I can sayto you, I keep coming back to
there are targeted, well thoughtout, methodical tariffs that are
a tool.
know that what we are doing.
We cannot continue in thiscountry.
What for property rights havebeen stolen, cannot continue.

(22:11):
I do know is we do need to makechanges, so I am open to those
changes.
Absolutely.
And on some things I was like,okay, let's see what happens
here.
I am open to it,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (22:21):
Right,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (22:21):
but you cannot do it thought and,
and things put in place and youcan't change something that's
been happening for the last 70years.
two months, you just can't doit,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (22:32):
right,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10- (22:32):
you're gonna have some terrible
ramifications.
I believe that in my heart,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (22:36):
right.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (22:36):
RRD,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (22:37):
a, a.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (22:38):
was just, that's just a common sense

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (22:39):
Well, and in general life.
In general life, a pissingcontest gets nowhere.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (22:44):
You got it.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (22:44):
That's with, that's with any topic,
anywhere, with any person or anygroup of people, or two people
or whatever.
You gotta sit down and think,right?

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (22:57):
You ready?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (22:58):
Sure.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (22:58):
was driving in and it's like, since
we've opened this business,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (23:01):
Mm-hmm.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (23:02):
you know, we opened it when?
2009 in the banking crisis,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1613 (23:05):
opened

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (23:06):
2010 banking crisis then.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (23:08):
We started our bank account in
2009.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (23:11):
True.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (23:11):
Okay.
My god.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (23:14):
We had a brick and mortar in 10.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (23:16):
Mm-hmm.
Very true.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (23:17):
See, look, I conceded no.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (23:21):
So kids, if you don't understand,
it's about a 15 year anniversaryor 16th anniversary.
I'm like these two talking aboutpissing contests.
It's wearing me out over thisone.
Wear me out.
So

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (23:32):
So, yes.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (23:34):
we opened not in the most ideal of
times,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (23:38):
No, and it was a banking crisis.
Yeah,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (23:40):
It was a

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (23:40):
it was.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10- (23:41):
right?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (23:41):
It was

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (23:42):
So we, we, we, we were forced,
truthfully forced to open thebusiness during that time of
how, how we were, um, how it wasmanaged, uh, for their other
employer.
I.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (23:54):
sh.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (23:55):
With that said, um, we survived it
and we thrived, right?
And then we, you know, buildingand building the business,
building business and then Covidhits.
And I literally remember saying,there's, that's the last 25
years gone, right?
But look what happened.
Because of Jeremy.
Truthfully, we've, and sureenough said this and he putting

(24:17):
online and creating the onlinepresence, we took what was
potentially a door closingbusiness, closing pandemic, and
flourished with it, right, andhave never looked back and
changed the projection of thestore.
And now a few years later.
It's like, okay, here we goagain.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (24:38):
Mm-hmm.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (24:38):
And that's how we, how do we get
around this one this time andwe're not gonna give up.
Right?
And we're being proactive andwe're being smart.
And, I had said to Jeremy a fewweeks ago, those who don't know,
we do a live sale everyWednesday night on our app, 7:00
PM.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16 (24:56):
Eastern.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (24:57):
And I call it local QVC,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (24:59):
Mm-hmm.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (25:00):
changed the, that Well, we're showing
you how to do stuff in lifestyling.
And so I, I really

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (25:03):
Right.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (25:03):
a more interesting approach.
So I do like what we're goingwith it, but I also said to him,
look, I don't wanna be here forthe next lifetime on a Wednesday
night, seven o'clock at night,selling four things you gotta
prove to me we're selling crap.
Right?
And of course, he's not provenanything to me.
But with that said,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (25:19):
As he rolls his eyes.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (25:21):
As he rolls his eyes.
Right.
But what I say is, you knowwhat, I'm probably gonna pull
back from that conversation whatwe've learned is by doing this,
live sale, that it gets peoplein the door.
Right?
They may not buy that night,which they are, people are
buying.
Well, by

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (25:36):
Sure.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (25:36):
I hear you.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (25:37):
Mm-hmm.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (25:37):
Uh, but it's become a marketing tool
and I didn't understand that.
And I don't know if you saw thatcoming or you believe that was
part of it.
You did.
You did know that.
Okay.
I'm, I did not, and I justthought it was selling crap.
You're like, oh, it's allinclusive.
Look, look at him shaking hishead.
Why is one, it's got people inthe door and it's having buzz.
So even though I may wanna gohome, what I realize is, okay,

(26:01):
well, we're gonna work a littlebit harder and we're not gonna
give up and we're gonna do thelive sales and we're gonna do
the demonstrations, and we'regonna be in your home.
And we're, we're, we're workinghard again, right?
We've, we've, we've done 2010.
We've done covid, we're dealingwith whatever.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (26:20):
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10- (26:21):
Right?
The next thing.
And Healy's tired.
Healy's tired.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (26:25):
At, he's tired.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (26:27):
not gonna give up.
We're just not gonna give up.
Right.
They're too, too stupid or, uh,too tenacious, whatever it is,
but not gonna give up.
So we're doing it for thepeoples.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (26:37):
no.
You know, this, this echoes oneof the things that I told, um,
one of the news guys today, Iwas, he was asking about if I
was worried about the future ofour business.
And I said, well, I.
Owning a business for a lot ofpeople.
Sounds very glamorous, um, andwonderful.
And don't get me wrong, thereare a lot of fun aspects to it,
but there's a lot of stress.

(26:58):
A lot of pressure, and.
There's always an easy and veryforward understanding that
sometimes you can make decisionsand it's either gonna make you
or break you.
And when we originally opened, Iremember I told him, I said, we
went to market one time.
It was during the, the bankingand housing crisis.
we went to market and there wasno one there.

(27:20):
And we thought we were there onthe wrong dates because where
was everybody shopping?
And I said at that point, therewere a ton of small businesses
that.
Did not survive, did not getthrough

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (27:30):
Yep.
That's when we decided to open.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1613 (27:33):
Right.
timing.
we move forward.
Everything's going okay.
Then, uh, we get to Covid andthen that happens.
And then what happens?
We lose lot of other smallbusinesses.
It just seems like they keepjust disappearing.
And I said, you know, this islike the next little step on
that.
And I was like, you know, we arenot gonna give up.

(27:53):
We're gonna keep doing andfighting and working and
everything that we got,'cause welove, we love this.
This is what we're, this is whatwe do.
It brings us joy, it bringscustomers joy.
I mean, this is, this is what.
Part of what we're supposed todo here, so this is what we're
doing.
but I told him, I said, thiscontinues and it's sustained, we

(28:14):
are going to lose a lot of othersmall businesses.
I mean, that is

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (28:17):
Right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (28:17):
the, the fact that I think you're
gonna lose some big companiestoo, because this is just not
possible to to handle.
So.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (28:23):
Coles is gone, baby.
Coles is gone.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (28:26):
I mean

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (28:28):
Oh.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (28:28):
Um, and again, again, we keep saying
like, because we don't know whatwe're going to, what, what, not
what we're gonna do, but whatour vendors are gonna do.
Because them trying to figureout, okay, are they going to
cover part of the, of the tariffand then what's our part of the
rest of it, right?
And

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (28:44):
Right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (28:44):
that gonna change the

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (28:45):
Okay.
You've been dealing with it.
Both of you.
Has any one

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (28:47):
Hmm.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10- (28:48):
vendor said that they're gonna cover
any of the costs?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (28:52):
Early on, and I say early on, four
weeks ago, five weeks ago, I.
Um, one vendor wasn't gonnacover all of it, but they were
gonna cover a majority of it

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (29:08):
Okay.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (29:09):
for certain accounts

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (29:12):
Mm-hmm.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (29:13):
the conversation.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (29:15):
But this was at the time when it was

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (29:17):
20%.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1613 (29:18):
right?

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (29:19):
Yeah, yeah.
So, but other than that, no.
We've gotten some, we we've gotno, and we've gotten like.
I won't say warning emails, butwe've gotten informative emails,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (29:32):
and informative emails.
They're just like, Hey, by theway, your prices are getting
ready to change.
We don't know what that is yet.
You'll know soon.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (29:39):
right?

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (29:41):
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (29:41):
they're

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (29:42):
uh,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (29:43):
us right.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161 (29:43):
because honestly, like they don't know
either.
They don't know what they'regonna get hit with.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1 (29:47):
literally it has changed from one day.
Like

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (29:51):
Yeah.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (29:51):
when I met, when I spoke with, uh,
one of them this morning, thenumber that was given that was
being applied to Shauna was onenumber.
And then by the time the secondnews crew came over, it was a
different, it was a differentamount.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (30:03):
Wow.
I see.
I'm not,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (30:04):
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (30:05):
I've been running all day, so, wow.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (30:07):
So, um, but like I, I spoke with,
um, our friend Shalay today

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10 (30:11):
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1613 (30:12):
called about an item for, um.
To see if they just had it,trying to figure out what to do.
And she said, well, she goes,she called me back today and she
said, I did find we have, wehave some.
She goes, if you want them, shegoes, these were in, these were
received in when it was, uh, 8%.
So this is gonna have an 8%, uh,tariff applied on it.

(30:32):
Um, and if you want these, grabthem, but you know, you need to
let me know.
She's like, after that, she'slike, everything else that's
coming in on the water, we'renot for sure what it's gonna be.
Tariff debt because it keepschanging and that's why she even
told me, um, oh, was it her orwas it another vendor that they
have put a pause on shipping outproduct?
They have, they've decided to

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (30:52):
Are you serious?

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (30:53):
and just hold the product because
they don't know what to apply.
Because it's changed.
It's

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (31:00):
Right.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (31:01):
Wow.
I didn't even know that was a.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (31:03):
it out.
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (31:04):
Wow.
Okay.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (31:05):
owner of her, uh, company was overseas
right now working on productfor, I guess I don't think it
would be, it's probably springof

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (31:12):
I was gonna say what it'll be next
year, spring.
Yeah.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (31:15):
and, um, I.
People, they work that farahead.
It's crazy.
Um, but I think that's what heis working on.
And he was gonna try to waittill either, I can't remember if
she said it was after thisweekend or next weekend, to try
to make a decision of what theywere gonna do.
Try to get numbers figured out.
'cause it's just,

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (31:32):
Hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (31:32):
it panic.
That's what I told the people onthe news.
I was like, anybody I speak to,like they're saying, all the
phone calls that they're gettingare all retailers like us.
That's all they're getting allday long.
And of course they're panickingtoo.
'cause they don't know

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (31:48):
Right.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (31:49):
I don't think we're panicking.
I don't think we're panicking.
We're being

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (31:51):
we're

dwayne-guest678_1_04- (31:52):
cautious.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (31:52):
are okay right now.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (31:53):
I think we're cautiously
approaching

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (31:56):
yes.
I I also think that we've got ahistory of like, okay, we're
gonna, we're gonna get throughthis no matter what.
Like we're gonna

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (32:04):
So we're gonna do the live sales
we're gonna do promotions, andwe're gonna do the podcast, and
we're just gonna work harder andsay, don't forget about us.
Look at us.
We're trying.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (32:15):
right.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (32:15):
so that's

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (32:16):
Yep.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (32:16):
I wanna make sure that we, you
know, small businesses in myopinion are really the, the
heartbeat of the country, right?
Like, this is really what giveseach little community their
little interest and their funand they're flare and all that.
So in all of this, I just wantto ask all of the wonderful
customers who have supported usover the years

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (32:34):
Mm.
Mm-hmm.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (32:36):
um.
know that one, we've appreciatedit.
Um, but two, of whether it's usor it's another small business,
don't

stuart_1_04-10-2025_1613 (32:46):
Right.
Yeah.
Utilize them.
Yeah.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (32:49):
you.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (32:50):
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025_ (32:51):
I know in my heart during Covid
that we had people buy stuff andthink of reasons to buy stuff
from us to support us.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (33:00):
Yeah.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (33:01):
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (33:01):
just know that happened.
I was like, she said, well, youknow, I.
that this flower arrangement wasmade three years ago, but it
could be freshened up.
And I was like, it's fine.
She said, mm, no, I wanna startover.
I know what she was doing.
I knew what she was

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (33:16):
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (33:17):
to do this.
We're fine.
She said, no, I want you to dothis.
And oh, I need a door basket formy cousin and all those things.
But that happened multipletimes.
And so my heart really willnever forget those.
People, and there were many,many, many of them who, um,
grace to us to make sure that wesurvived and thrived.

(33:39):
And that, that I truly won'tforget, um, that that was, that
was touching.
It really was touching.
And, um, so the reason I comeback to, it's like I, that's the
reason I come back to, um, we'renot gonna give up and we're
gonna fight hard and we're gonnado the best we can and we're
gonna.
Um, be proactive and we're gonnaget the product in when, and we
can keep it at the same processwithout having tariffs on it.

(34:02):
And we're gonna be smart aboutthis, um, because we're, we're
just, we're just gonna make thiswork.
We're gonna figure it out

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (34:09):
and I'll be drinking more.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (34:11):
and you'll be drinking more.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (34:13):
A Stewart.
Stewart will go from one bourbonevery night from when he gets
home to three.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (34:18):
I know.
I mean, I've had so manyhairstyles since we've been
open.
I don't know what to do next.
It goes with the change.
I don't know.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (34:29):
that we get out to say anything, but
it's becoming more limited,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (34:31):
I.
Oh,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (34:35):
God,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (34:35):
oh,

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_1613 (34:36):
telly.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (34:37):
well I was gonna do that platinum
that you liked, but not no more.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (34:40):
Come on, do it again.
And what he's meaning is hedied.
Was it cut real short.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (34:45):
Yeah, it is a little shorter than what
I have now.
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (34:48):
Yeah.
And it was, I really do think itwas, I think it was your look.
I really do you, you, you yourocked it, brother.
I'd be, I'd be down with thatone.

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (34:58):
We will see.
We'll, we'll put the pho meterout and see and see where it,
the spinner lands on my hairdye.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (35:07):
There you go.
There you go.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161 (35:08):
today's podcast that we, did not scare
anybody, but maybe we might'veinformed some and if, and, um,
and if not that, that we xxx xxx x xxx xxxxxx xxxxx xxxx
xxxxxxx So we can all xxxx xxxxxep it all together.
So God

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2025 (35:27):
Oh my God.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (35:28):
Yeah,

stuart_1_04-10-2025_16132 (35:29):
Yeah, that's what it is.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (35:31):
Yeah.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-2 (35:31):
We'll be

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (35:31):
Here we go.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_161324 (35:32):
We

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-20 (35:33):
Here we go.

jeremy_1_04-10-2025_16132 (35:33):
that.
All right.
Well, as always, thank you allfor listening.
We will see you again next week.
Don't forget to download ourHouseFloral app to join us in
our live selling everyWednesday, 7:00 PM Eastern,
until next week, we will see youthen.
All right.
Bye.

dwayne-guest678_1_04-10-202 (35:48):
bye now

stuart_1_04-10-2025_161324 (35:49):
Bye.