April 30, 2025 • 36 mins
This week's podcast is about a two word term that has been everywhere recently. We're talking on the Today Show. We're talking about on your TikTok feed, we're talking about in social posts. It has been everywhere, like it's a brand new idea. And guys, it's not. But the two word term is color drenching.
Now listen, if you don't know what that is, no fears because by the end of this podcast, you're gonna know what it is, how we use it, and why. It's one of our favorite ways to add a ton of drama to a space that just makes you just wanna sit in there forever. Let's get to the podcast.
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(00:00):
This week's podcast is about atwo word term that has been
everywhere recently.
We're talking on the Today Show.
We're talking about on yourTikTok feed, we're talking about
in social posts.
It has been everywhere, likeit's a brand new idea.
And guys, it's not.
But the two word term is colordrenching.
(00:21):
Now listen, if you don't knowwhat that is, no fears because
by the end of this podcast,you're gonna know what it is,
how we use it, and why.
It's one of our favorite ways toadd a ton of drama to a space
that just makes you just wannasit in there forever.
Let's get to the podcast.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (01:41):
On today's podcast, we are
discussing this whole.
I'm gonna call it a trendy name,but it's not a new thing, but
it's this whole idea of colordrenching.
Now, for those who may not knowwhat it is, would the one of you
all like to explain what colordrenching is,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (02:01):
well the general idea is the
definition is painting walls,ceiling trim, and even furniture
the same hue.
So basically the way I wouldexplain it to a client is like,
look, you see your living room,bedroom, whatever room we're
dealing with, I wanna take thisroom and just dip it in a paint
of can and pull it back out.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (02:20):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (02:21):
And that's what we're doing, right?
That's the easy way to do it.
Now
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (02:24):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0 (02:25):
semantics and we're gonna get into all of
that, but that's basically youjust drop your room in a paint
can and okay, that's what itlooks like.
We're done.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (02:32):
Yeah, so the idea is to envelop
yourselves into, this, a sea ofcolor, right?
Whatever color it may be.
And it doesn't have to be likecolor or a dark color.
It can, you can do it in abright, neutral tone too, but
it's basically paint everythingbeing color washed.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (02:49):
Well, and I'm sure we have a lot of,
um, listeners that have viewed,Bridgerton.
Because
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (02:59):
think so?
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (02:59):
are looking at me.
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (03:01):
I'm thinking, I'm trying to think
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (03:02):
because every
jeremy-guest949_1_04-2 (03:04):
everyone
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (03:05):
in every set this drenched in
color,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (03:10):
See, I, we haven't watched this
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (03:11):
and what you see is the pattern of
the furniture and theirclothing, but the background is
literally all the same color inevery single room that they're
in, which is what makes it socinematic and beautiful.
Hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (03:24):
Well,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (03:24):
are like a tele, you're, you're like
a color person then.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (03:27):
Mm-hmm.
I'm all about the coloreddrench.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (03:30):
yeah, I, so it has been like on my
social media, especially TikTok.
has been, of course I got ontoColored Ridge TikTok evidently,
but, it has appeared to be outthere a lot.
People are talking about thisbrand new, way to do it and that
couldn't be further from thetruth.
It's been around forever.
(03:52):
I mean, a lot of high-end or.
You know, designers used to, youknow, did a lot of toys where I
remember seeing it.
'cause I think those were thepeople that had the money to do
it.
And if they hated it, they'djust change it later.
They didn't have to worry about,you know, if, if they didn't
love it.
but you would always see them inthese beautiful design magazines
and it was just so dramatic and,um, beautiful.
(04:13):
But it's caught on and I wonderif it is because of what you're
talking about, Stuart, withBridgerton, if people have seen
that and then now they've,they've, you know,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (04:21):
Well, and, and that's the thing.
It wasn't new just tobridgerton.
That was period.
That was the period, and that'swhat they did in that timeframe
because
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (04:31):
I have to admit I've been doing
this.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (04:32):
don't know.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2 (04:33):
around
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (04:33):
There you go.
Well,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (04:34):
was having tea with them
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (04:38):
In your
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (04:39):
and, and writing to my loyal
listeners.
I've
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (04:44):
I have to say I've been doing this
for a while and it's not thatI'm a genius.
I didn't know what I was doing.
And
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (04:51):
the.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (04:51):
It's like, I always like to room and
it's, you know, not, notnecessarily all the crown
moldings and doors to beoutlined and white.
And I was like, it just onecolor.
And so I've been doing it for awhile and then somebody.
Probably only three or fouryears ago, truthfully.
So she's like,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (05:08):
like,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (05:09):
can I color drench my room?
And I'm like, okay, I don't knowwhat that is.
Tell me what that is.
She told me and I went, oh,okay.
I didn't know that's what thatwas.
Yeah, we can do that.
It's real good.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (05:19):
Well, you know, the first time I
remember seeing it like inperson Dwayne, was when you did
it at, Deborah's old house atthat, that big,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (05:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (05:27):
room.
And I, it was so beautiful.
The color was gorgeous and itwas just a beautiful sitting
room, and it was so moody and.
Um, I remembered loving it thenI didn't know what it was called
then either.
I just, you
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (05:38):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (05:38):
was,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (05:39):
I just learned, so yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (05:40):
this is fancy,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (05:41):
you fancy.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (05:42):
and now we've got a term for it.
So, you know,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (05:44):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, when she said it, I waslike, oh, finally, finally, I'm
not crazy
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (05:51):
you know what to
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09 (05:52):
because, you know, honestly, Stuart may
have noticed it, but I, I don'twatch Bridgeton.
I don't even know what it is,truthfully.
Okay.
So I can't learn from that.
And I don't live in a periodhouse like he does from his
antebellum year.
So I didn't have to do homework.
And Stuart he's the only realofficial designer.
(06:12):
He's has a a degree and he usedto be real pernick about it.
And it was J.
Stuart, Hurt ASID Deser.
I think he's moved on past that,but he, because he, he's
confident in himself that he's,he's a deserter designer and,
uh, but he's really, now Jeremyhas a background for those who
(06:34):
don't know in, it's calledvisual apparel.
Visual merchandising.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (06:38):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (06:40):
it's, you have a visual how to
display.
I think it's more complicatedthan that, and colors and
things, uh, right.
But you do, you, you have, I'mnot dismissing you because you
do have a background that's inthat field of study.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (06:53):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (06:54):
It's visual.
Right.
And Stuart has the, the, I'mgonna call it the real deal,
right?
He's, he can, he can, he can, heis the A SID, he's the real
deal.
Me, I'm just a old Joe Schmowith, uh, some accounting degree
that can't balance thecheckbook.
So.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (07:07):
with a paint book,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (07:09):
There you go.
jeremy-guest949_1_04 (07:10):
decorator.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (07:11):
Scale a blonde decorator, right?
So I say that in that each ofyou, probably more particular
steward, you know, is educatedin this and may have read about
it and learned about I, I don'tknow, I'm, we can learn from
this.
I just, you know, anything thatI do and learn is either through
copying somebody, mistake orinstinct.
(07:31):
It's certainly not through bookknowledge.
I guess what my answer is, so Ican't say to you.
I knew anything about this andit was period something, because
I don't have that background, soI stumble into stuff just
because it's just dumb lucksometimes.
I think
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (07:45):
Oh, that's how it works
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (07:47):
that works sometimes, right?
You think that's how we stumbleeach into each other?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (07:52):
uh, you know, if this wasn't fake by
the devil, I don't know.
What was I.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (07:58):
Um, oh, that's funny.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (07:59):
think one of the reasons why people,
love it and why designers go,can go to is one of it.
It, well, it can, and I'm gonnaput that in quotation marks can
be an inexpensive way, to reallyadd a ton of drama to a space
without having to spend moneyon.
you know, a wall covering or,you know, those kinds of things.
But it helps to have trim,right?
(08:20):
Like it helps to have thosekinds of
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (08:21):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (08:22):
the architectural interest to it,
right?
And when I
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (08:24):
I think that's part of the success
is really it has to have trim,truthfully.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (08:28):
abso, yeah, I, that helps a ton, but
it just creates a really,intimate, moody, just.
Enveloping space, and dependingon whether you
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (08:39):
You go
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (08:40):
dark or whether you go bright, it
feels completely
stuart-host173_1_04- (08:43):
different.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (08:43):
it, it
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (08:44):
Just feels
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (08:45):
like
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (08:45):
like
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (08:45):
wrapped that, that like that I think
about Temple Grandin, I think ofher just like being the big old
hug, right?
Like I just feel like I'm beinghugged by the room one way or
another.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2 (08:53):
right.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (08:53):
um, I think that's one of the
reasons why people love it somuch or we'll use
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (08:57):
Well, we've referenced Stuart's, uh,
formal living room, uh, at hishome, and it, it's, it's a
large, really large scale room.
How big is, how big is yourformal living room at your
house, Stuart?
Roughly.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (09:10):
24 by 26.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (09:12):
Yeah.
That's huge.
Right?
And ceilings are how, how tall,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (09:17):
uh, 15 and a half.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0905 (09:19):
right?
You, you understanding?
Scale, that's a massive scaleroom.
Right.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (09:23):
Hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (09:24):
And I point that out is because he
color drenched that room and itis a more intense color.
Right?
But it's not dark, but it isintense color.
But we did, a photo shoot at hishouse a few weeks ago and we sat
down there waiting foreverything to get prepared.
And let me tell you that room.
You know, it felt grand, right?
(09:46):
But it didn't feel, cavernous.
It, it felt warm and cozyinviting and it lent itself to
ease of sitting there and havinga beautiful conversation.
And first I'll, I.
Pivot to that is giving creditto Stuart, that he was able to,
curate things in this room thattold stories and gave seating
(10:09):
that was comfortable.
But part of the success was thecolor drenching in that room
that made it feel moody andintimate.
And where if it were notaddressed that way, I don't know
that it would've.
Been a room that you want tonecessarily hang out in.
So you created a beautiful roomby color, trenching.
(10:30):
And even truthfully, the tone ofcolor is part of its success
once it's said and done.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (10:35):
Well,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (10:36):
So.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (10:36):
what color drenching or wrapping
everything in one color it cando.
For example, with Stuart's room,it's a huge room, but it then
also helps feel like it shrinksdown a little bit.
It doesn't feel like it's super
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (10:47):
Hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (10:48):
It can also do the complete
opposite thing.
So if you're in a really smallroom, for example, it doesn't
make it feel small.
It does make it feel smaller tome.
'cause I think you're just stillenveloped in that color, right?
Like
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (10:58):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (10:59):
a powder room, for example.
Um.
It doesn't make it, I don'tthink it feel, feels like it
shrinks it in, it just makes itfeel like it's hugging.
That's the only way I know howto explain that.
It just feel like it's
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (11:07):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (11:10):
so a lot of the places where you
will see this, I mean, are,they're the really common spaces
like powder rooms, home offices.
'cause you can have a lot of funwith that and bedrooms.
'cause everybody loves a bootybedroom.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (11:22):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (11:24):
So when he references moody,
typically I think of a darkercolor, right?
Typically Right.
I, I would say it that way.
Um, guys, when you, said that wewere gonna do this topic and I
started thinking about thingsI've done and projects I've
done.
And it's actually, I startedremembering one of the rooms
that we did together.
And again, I've got images thatwe'll share.
(11:45):
Um, it was when we did the, um,ombudsman,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (11:49):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09 (11:50):
showcase house.
Again, probably close to 10years ago, if you recall, but we
took the room and paintedeverything one color
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (11:59):
Was it the,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (11:59):
that the, the Dark Navy.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (12:00):
blue?
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (12:01):
It was,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (12:01):
yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (12:02):
Oh yeah, yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (12:03):
yeah.
Yeah.
I know y'all
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (12:05):
room.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (12:06):
I thought, Lord, them people.
I didn't know if they knew whatwas gonna happen.
'cause it was this beautifulwood paneling room and then you
said, you were like, I'm
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (12:12):
We're gonna paint it all.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (12:14):
well, I'll, I'll, uh.
Well, it what, okay, first, Iwould take issue with beautiful
paneled room, uh, because it.
jeremy-guest949_1_04- (12:23):
remember.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (12:24):
Well,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (12:25):
I just
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (12:25):
it was,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (12:26):
detail,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (12:27):
was a paneled, it was a, a connector
together room, and they actuallyused it as a billiard room.
They had a pool table in there,which was awful, and a, a UK
light fixture.
And it was, and it wasbeautifully paneled.
Yeah, it was beautifullypaneled.
Room.
But the problem was that theyused subpar wood and the grainy
(12:47):
and the colors and the texturesand all that just was subpar.
So you saw too many textures.
And it also was then stainedthis horrific orangey red cherry
color, right?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (12:59):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (13:00):
And all I did is walk in and see,
instead of seeing beautifulpaneling, I just walked in and
saw 1983 cheap builder.
Right.
And so the two directors of thisproject who were owners of the
house also at the, at the time,uh, you know, I had to say, Hey.
(13:21):
White man who's not homosexual.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (13:24):
man.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (13:24):
I want straight man.
There you go.
I, I want to paint you wood.
I wanna mess with you wood.
Okay, brother.
And, uh, it, it did not go well.
I don't know if, I don't thinkyou guys were there.
I think I was pitching the ideaand
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (13:39):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (13:39):
like, yeah, no, you can't do that.
And I was like, yeah, we we'regonna paint it.
And not only we're gonna paintit, we're gonna paint it dark
Navy blue.
Oh yeah.
You're not gonna paint it.
What?
No, we're gonna paint it reallydark.
Navy blue.
No, you can't do that.
Yeah.
You can keep saying no, butwe're gonna do it.
(14:00):
And he's like, well, do youwanna keep the pool table in
here?
Yeah, no, you need to get rid ofthat pool table.
You can't work around it.
No.
You know, it's a lot of work toget rid of that.
And I was like, yeah.
Again, remember we're gonnapaint the paneling and I need
rid of the pool table and well,do you wanna keep the uk Uh, lot
that's made out of stain glass.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (14:18):
Uh,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (14:18):
No, you need to take that down too.
Oh, that's expensive.
Somebody like that.
It's like, well, I don't, Idon't.
So we're gonna paint the room.
Navy, we're gonna get rid of thepool table and the lot.
Oh, and so one of the old boyswent home and told the wife what
I had pitched, and the next dayhe is like, yeah, Amber says she
likes it, so I guess we're doingdo it.
And I said, thank you.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (14:39):
Well, and so for people who are not
local to us, so it's basicallylike a decorator showcase house.
So designers come in, finish aroom, and then people buy
tickets to to see it, and then.
the money benefits, a charityhere or an organization that
takes care, helps, uh, navigate,uh, elder care in, nursing homes
and stuff like that,representing them.
So it was, it was a great,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (15:00):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (15:01):
cause and it
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (15:02):
mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (15:02):
uh, room.
So we weren't like dealing with
stuart-host173_1_04- (15:05):
Homeowner.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (15:06):
going to live in the house because the
house was gonna be useddifferently in for this
subdivision.
I think it was gonna be like acommunity.
I don't really know what that
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:15):
Yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (15:15):
Yeah.
It's basically gonna be their,uh, clubhouse, so to speak.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (15:19):
That's it.
Yeah.
So
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:20):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (15:20):
don't think that we ever looking at
homeowner who's gonna live thereand be like, nah, we're gonna do
what
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:25):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (15:26):
gonna
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:26):
yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-2 (15:27):
Symphony lamp out on the front
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:29):
yeah.
No, this one, you're right.
I need to, it sounded like I wascoming across crass, but uh,
this one, when you do somethinglike that in its first showcase,
uh, your job is to.
Push the envelope a little bit.
Put things out there that are
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (15:44):
Make
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0905 (15:45):
little more designed.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (15:46):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (15:46):
Make people talk.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (15:47):
So.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (15:47):
So with that said, I have images.
Again, we'll share those so thatyou don't think we're crazy
because it's ultimately aclassic room and we, um.
Now high praise for it.
And that's not the end result.
But the, that, it was wellreceived.
So we didn't do anything toocrazy, I don't think it was
very, very, very well received.
the sweet story was on this one,guys that, Megan, who has now
(16:12):
since passed, you know, she dida beautiful room
jeremy-guest949_1_04 (16:14):
beautiful.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0 (16:15):
Beautiful room, right?
Beautiful room, and, the lastday of the, showcase.
She, and her husband were thereand, and my wife and and I were
there and she came up and shewas somewhat timid and she said,
I hate to ask this, but my,husband just loves the paint
color you guys did.
Would you, I.
Mind to share that with me'causehe wants to do his office that
way.
Well, for me, that's incrediblecompliment, right?
(16:37):
Because I really did love heraesthetic and what she did and
the room that she created thatthis house was stunning.
And I said, well, of course.
And so for listening audience,it is Naval, uh, by Sherwin
Williams.
Again, we'll post that Naval bySher Williams.
And this is the most beautifulclassic Navy color, right?
There's other good ones, butyeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (16:56):
Not N-A-V-E-L because they have
both.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (17:00):
There you go.
Yeah.
And we'll, then we'll post it.
Um, but the funny part is I saidI would happily share it, but
then I said, so I'm gonna pivotto you and say, I too have been
hesitant, but I wanna know whatyour paint color is because I
wanna use it for a clientbecause I found it to be the
most beautiful color that, I'veseen in quite a long time.
So one of those things that itgoes back to, saying that,
(17:24):
working together with talentedpeople is such a pleasure.
And that was a wonderful projectthat we worked together on many,
many, many local designers.
That was a fun project.
Uh, now the behind the scenesdrama was a, a different story,
but
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (17:37):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (17:37):
with the designers, uh, was
wonderful.
They, they all stepped up.
So anyway, Naval.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (17:42):
So if you're thinking of color
drenching, we, you know, we'vementioned some rooms that are,
you know, easy to do.
A pals room, for example.
It's really easy to do it'causeit's like a little short
theater, right?
Like you, like I always do.
That's what I call, you get in,you get out, and you don't have
to be too terrified if you dosomething really dramatic.
Um, the color I don't think is.
I mean, picking the right colorcan be, an issue, uh, if you
(18:03):
pick an ugly color.
Um, but I think as long as youpick something that speaks
through to your heart, um, thatyou will, um, love it.
And one of the Dwayne, didn'tyou do a basement that was all
black Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (18:17):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (18:17):
Yeah.
And I,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (18:19):
yeah.
Well, the, the, the mom of myclient said it looked like the
Devil's Cave, uh, but theclient, and I loved it though.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (18:27):
Well, you know, we had, lunch with our
friend Sean yesterday, and inhis previous home, in their
little sing room, we colored,drenched it and we did it in
Black Fox and, or was it iron?
Iron ore?
Maybe we did iron ore.
Both those Sherman Williamscolors, but they're really dark
gray, black, uh, and I mean, itwas moody, but, oh god, it was
good.
So, uh, you
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (18:46):
Here.
Here, what he just said.
Basically black.
But black is not black.
Right?
And there's all, there's not allequal.
So there's a color called ironore.
Look it up.
Sherman Williams, uh, black Foxis a, a brown black, right?
And then I did a theater room,uh, in a basement, and, uh, it
(19:06):
was called porpoise, uh,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (19:07):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0 (19:08):
Williams.
And it is.
Charcoal, but a little green inher tone.
Again, really love that color.
So those three beautifulcharcoal kind of colors to
investigate if that's somethingthat you, um, find interesting
for you.
But yeah, absolutely beautifulcolors.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (19:23):
And if you know always.
Sampling the colors is a reallysuper important thing to do.
But what I would recommend forpeople, and we did this with my
in-laws, they were looking atpainting their living room and
they were just like, well, Ijust don't wanna paint all these
big swatches around.
And I said, well, you don't haveto paint the big swatches.
You can go to Samplize, whichthis is not a, an ad for sample,
(19:43):
but, um, you can go tosamplize.com, which is
S-A-M-P-L-I-Z-E-I believe.com.
And they have.
Paint stickers.
I don't remember how big theyare, but they're probably 12 by
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (19:54):
yeah, they're pretty large, I think.
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (19:56):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (19:57):
They have Benjamin Moore colors, they
have Sherwin William colors,they have Pharaoh and ball, and
they have PPG paint.
And so you can order any paintcolor that they have and you can
order, and basically theserepositionable big square
stickers.
And so you can literally put itin the corner of the room on all
three, like the two corner wallsand the ceiling.
So you can kind of see it, youcan put it on your tra like you
(20:18):
can.
Put it down so you can see howit's gonna feel in a little bit
bigger space.
Plus different walls, castdifferent shadows and all those
kinds of things.
But I think that's really, um,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (20:28):
like contact paper, uh, paint
sticker,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (20:30):
destroy your wall.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (20:31):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (20:32):
you can
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (20:32):
Yeah.
It, it comes off
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (20:33):
back and
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (20:34):
post.
Oh, here's a way.
It's a big giant paint post-itnote.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-2 (20:37):
Exactly.
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (20:39):
That's, yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (20:40):
Yeah.
So
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (20:40):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (20:41):
a great way for,'cause you know,
look, we all understand seeinglittle bit, little bitty paint
colors ain't gonna do nobody nogood.
You gotta see it on a biggersurface, right?
You gotta make it bigger.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (20:50):
Well, here's the crazy part.
They're, they're six,$7 each oneof them, right?
Something like that.
$8, I dunno, in that range.
But the thing is, you gonna siton your couch and you're gonna
order it.
You don't have to go to thepaint store.
You don't have to get, you don'thave to wait on the ru paint guy
to get you the paint samplesdone.
And like, you just want twosamples.
You don't wanna buy$50,000 agallon of paint, you know,
(21:11):
dealing with those fools there,right?
So you get your paint samplesand then you couch at 11 o'clock
at night.
We all been there, right?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (21:19):
I, you know what?
Honestly, I have not.
All of the people that I'vedealt with at our local little
paints, they are all sopleasant.
That's why I'm like, I,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (21:26):
Well, maybe it's me, what I putting
out there?
There you go.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (21:28):
I
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (21:29):
We'll just say,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (21:30):
I just send my people.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (21:32):
okay.
Well, I don't have people's,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (21:33):
will deal with it, but like locally
for me, across from our home,our, our little Sherwin Williams
store over there, like,everybody's been so kind to me,
so that's why I'm
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (21:40):
well, well, I'll just pivot.
It's all me, Jeremy.
Thank you.
Uh, so I'll choose to sit on mycouches.
Oh.
Kids, if you don't know, if youdon't know what kind of week
we've had, I have caused moreproblems.
I have stirred up more crap.
I have called more issues forthese two.
I have.
I'm telling you, it's been aweek and we ain't done yet.
(22:04):
Um, so there you go.
It's all me too.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (22:06):
Tuesday of this.
By Tuesday of this week, I hadtold you that I was gonna kill
you more times than I'veprobably told you in the entire
25 years I've known you, or
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (22:15):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (22:15):
so we,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (22:16):
It's
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (22:17):
we're gonna.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (22:17):
cat moon is coming this Saturday.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (22:19):
She's like, cat moon,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (22:21):
Yes.
Have you not seen that?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (22:23):
No,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (22:24):
It's a smiley face, cat moon coming.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (22:26):
Oh, I
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (22:26):
planets are gonna be above the moon.
It's gonna be a little smileyface with eyeballs.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (22:30):
Oh yeah, I did see
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (22:32):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (22:33):
I have no clue, but that explains.
I don't like catsa.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (22:36):
beckon.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (22:38):
Some crazy cat ladies.
Um, well.
The thing that, sticks out to mefor this week, was there was a
conversation in, this is notmaking a lot of people and their
struggles with their, uh, mentalhealth issues.
It really isn't.
But I think America is on theedge.
And I'm saying that I might beworking with some people that
(23:00):
might need some meds in theirworld that kind of calm'em down
a little bit and they'readmitting to me in a meeting,
well, I might take somemedicines to kind of level me
out a little bit.
'cause I'm jittery, right?
I'm not naming names.
The other two.
And when I said this I said,well, I don't take anything.
Then I stopped and I paused andthought, am I the common
(23:22):
denominator because of everybodyin my life has to take drugs to
level out and I don't.
Am I the problem?
So I'm asking myself.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (23:32):
I mean,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (23:35):
They ain't saying no, folks.
They ain't saying no.
There you go.
Anyway.
jeremy-guest949_1_04 (23:39):
medication
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (23:39):
I mean,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (23:40):
now.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (23:41):
roots have tentacles is all I'm
saying.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (23:47):
Anyway, that, that, that's, that's
summation of this week mylearning experience.
So, We were talking aboutordering the samples.
You can literally sit on yourcouch, go to this website.
I don't know what voodoo theydo, but if you order at 11
o'clock that night, it'sprobably gonna sit on your
doorstep at two o'clock the nextday.
I have never seen this.
Literally, you order it and it'slike within your hands, within
(24:08):
like 10 hours or something.
So you gonna get your samplesvery quickly.
Yeah.
The other positivity and
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (24:13):
take two weeks to get it Sure.
As shit.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (24:15):
Well, they like me better than them.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (24:18):
That
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (24:18):
you go.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (24:18):
must be so, okay.
So you can put that on all thesurfaces.
You can see how it's going tolook.
Um, and it'll give you an ideaof how it's gonna feel.
Now here's some pointers if youdo color drenching and ways to
try to make the room still.
Interesting visually, aside fromjust being all the color, right?
So I always suggest people makesure.
(24:40):
You've got all three layers oflighting, right?
So you've got your ambient taskand accent, right?
So those will help.
And then when you put yourfurniture and things in, um,
making sure that you usedifferent kinds of, materials
like whether it's velvet leatherand all those kind of things
like that adds a lot of texturalinterest to the space,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (24:59):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-2 (25:01):
probably kicker is sure you pick the
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (25:06):
You right?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (25:06):
sheen.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (25:08):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (25:08):
would think for your
stuart-host173_1_04 (25:09):
definitely.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (25:10):
if
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (25:11):
If you.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (25:11):
some popped walls, some walls that
are not even where they bow, youdo not wanna do a high gloss.
People you don't wanna do.
We all, I think we all threelove a lacquered wall and
ceiling.
I mean, we
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (25:23):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (25:24):
finish
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (25:24):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (25:25):
that goes back to like what we talked
about a couple of podcasts ago,but you have to have a level
five finish rack on the wall.
It's gotta be perfect.
Everything's gotta be
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2 (25:30):
Glass.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (25:31):
to put high sheen on, right.
So if you don't have thatsituation, please, I would not
suggest to do it.
'cause you're just gonna look atevery flaw.
You know?
That's when you would use likean eggshell or something that's
not as shey.
So it's not gonna show all thethe hiccups, wouldn't you think?
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (25:47):
100%.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (25:48):
Oh
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_ (25:48):
generally, in most situations, I'm not
going to do a room, I'm going doa, a satin or an eggshell anyway
on most walls, you know.
Uh, lacquered walls are, uh, forvery special limited
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (26:01):
It's
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_ (26:01):
instances,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (26:02):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:02):
very specific, and also to get it
done and get that done well isvery expensive.
So that is, that is not foreverybody unless you can do it
for yourself.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (26:11):
And that's
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:11):
Uh
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (26:12):
that paint could be inexpensive,
right?
Like if, if you're trying to gofor that lacquered field, that's
a whole other level of, effortand money and finished work,
that somebody's gotta know whatthey're doing versus you just
going in with the
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:25):
For me, unless you're very, this is
not A-D-D-I-Y kind of thing onlacquered walls.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (26:30):
Oh Lord,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:30):
Now anybody can, right.
A lot of people can
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (26:33):
No.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:34):
pick up a paintbrush and if you're
careful, you can paint your ownroom.
I don't want to, I used to, butI'm too old, too fat.
I ain't gonna do it anymore.
But if you wanna paint your ownroom, you know, do a, a more
flat finish and exhale or satin,and you probably can't screw it
up too much once it's said anddone.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (26:50):
I'm just interested in color.
Would you, would you allprobably end up doing more
moody, strong color, or wouldyou do more color?
Like
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (26:59):
I would do moody because it, I
think it shows better,especially when you have three
different sheens in your room.
mean, if you're in a, in apastel, muted color.
I think to get that to work,you're gonna have to go
everything up a sheen from whatyou normally would
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (27:15):
Mm-hmm.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (27:15):
like your trim, like let's say it's a
pastel pink or a really lightpink.
Then your trim has to be highgloss, your walls do need some
sort of semi gloss and then asatin on the ceiling because
it's just not gonna read if youpaint everything And just a
regular gloss.
It's just gonna look like powderwent on the room because if you
(27:38):
really want that definition,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (27:39):
See, it's funny.
Uh, okay, let's do two things.
I think of color drenching.
I generally, when I think ofcolor drenching, I really do
think for some reason it's moreintense color.
Right?
Even though color drenchingtechnically, it really can be
light, right?
But for color drenching, it justseems drenching is a war that
seems strong and it seems moreintense to me, so I feel like
(28:00):
it's a darker color.
With that said, I finished mybasement a couple years ago and
with limited light and all thetricks I did, I actually color
drenched everything and Ipainted everything white.
So technically that's colordrenched, right?
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (28:16):
sure, sure.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (28:16):
But I don't see it that way so much.
I just see it as uniform and Ineed it.
I didn't wanna, uh, break it up.
I didn't want too many colors.
But technically I see that astechnically color drenching when
it's one color and there'sdifferent of it.
I don't know if you agree withthat one.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (28:30):
that more as monochromatic.
I don't see that as
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (28:32):
Okay.
So, so then is color drenchingthen really more intense?
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (28:38):
I think it's.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (28:40):
I still think you can do it in
like a cream or a tan or I thinkyou could do it in that kind of
way.
It doesn't have to be like adark blue green or it doesn't
have to be a black.
I think it's just a differentway to do it.
I mean, think about a kitchen,like my
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (28:51):
My kitchen,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (28:53):
walls.
The, the, um, the walls, the
stuart-host173_1_04-24 (28:56):
cabinet.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (28:56):
the ceiling, uh, now except for the
wet, the wet bar in, in ourisland, those are different
things, but all the othersurfaces are all painted the
same color, and it's all white.
So for me, that color drenching,those, like that whole thing.
Um, me it is.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (29:12):
Okay, so, so the one I did, and it's
clients of mine who built alittle, uh, Southern Living
Bungo, that looks like a littleschoolhouse.
I.
Painted.
So it, this house is like 1600square feet.
It looks like an old schoolhouse.
You walk in the front door, youare literally in just one big
room.
There's not even a foyer, right?
And you look to the back of thehouse, 24 feet long or whatever
(29:34):
it is.
Uh, and it's the kitchen.
And so the, uh, Malin, thecabinet guy, when I had him
paint the cabinetry.
We have beadboard, we havewalls, we have cabinetry.
I literally did Rin, that whole.
House in particular, I'm stayingin this room and everything is
painted.
Um, just a light khaki color.
(29:55):
And because when I opened thefront door, I didn't wanna walk
in and see white cabinets inkhaki trim, and I just wanted it
to be one color.
And for some reason, I.
I can understand a darker room,more intense room is color
drenching,
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (30:10):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (30:11):
but when I was pitching the idea of
all the trim walls, B board,ceilings, cabinetry, everything,
one color, I had a nervousenergy and I didn't see it as
color drenching, right.
But what I was saying is, I wantall one color.
And, she said to me, do youthink this is the right answer?
I'm like, I don't know.
(30:32):
You know, the rot, and that'sthe confidence you want from a
designer when you're having, youknow, thousands of dollars worth
of cabinets done and trim workand stuff.
Do you think it should be allone color?
I don't know.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (30:44):
you're
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (30:44):
I think it's rot.
Maybe, right?
I know and I couldn't.
I was in my own head, and if I'dhad this conversation, what
we're hearing today, then a yearago, eight months ago, whenever
I was doing this, if I would'veheard it, I would've had more
confidence because it really iscolor drenching.
But in my head, suppose I alwaysthink as color drenching is more
(31:07):
intense, but truthfully, it canbe.
Lighter shades and the endresult is kids.
The, the spaces that that, thatwe did together, uh, is
beautiful and she loves it and Ilove it.
And it is color drenched and itis neutral.
It's just a light khaki color.
It's, I think it's calledfavorite tan.
I can't remember the color.
Uh, but beautiful.
(31:27):
And it is.
Now I can say to you.
Can we paint it a lighter colorand it'd be all the same.
And I wouldn't say, I don'tknow.
I could say, yep, it's good.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (31:37):
S Paint it all!.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (31:38):
all, paint it
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (31:39):
it all.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (31:40):
okay.
Is there, uh, but are there anyother things that we want to
bring up about it?
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (31:43):
we've talked about everything.
Except if you're do it, yougotta do the ceiling too.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (31:49):
Oh yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (31:50):
You got to, you gotta do it all.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (31:52):
in our bedroom when we did, our
primary, when we, I wanted to doa dark green color and you have
no idea.
The fight that I had to have to,not the fight, that's the wrong
word.
The Effort I had to put in tohave my loving husband, trust me
enough.
and you know, we've talked onhere before that our mates often
will, question,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (32:13):
Uh.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (32:14):
um, things that we know that's
right.
We, you know, it's, I'm like,look, this is what people pay us
to do.
Like, trust us.
Um, there was a lot of effort.
There was a lot of
stuart-host173_1 (32:24):
Conversations,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (32:25):
it, but we
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (32:25):
but we were able to,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (32:26):
green.
However, I
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (32:27):
I was not allowed to.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (32:28):
trim or the ceiling.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (32:30):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (32:30):
And, um, that's like, that's my one
regret.
Like, I wish that that couldhave been
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (32:36):
Well do it now.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (32:38):
Oh, I don't wanna put any more
effort into that, but Room.
It's a smile.
It's done.
Like, it's, I don't wanna, I'mgonna have to, no, I
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (32:46):
Wow.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (32:46):
He just gave up.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (32:48):
He just gave up.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (32:49):
we heard from, from, um, our, our,
our lovely contractor and myspouse last week.
Uh, I was questioned on Mondayfor a client's house they were
starting to do the tile for theprimary bathroom.
He called me, he's like, boo.
You think you ordered the righttile?
(33:11):
I went, huh?
He goes, well, there's threedifferent ones.
I went, Uhhuh, he goes, I, Idon't know that all these go
together.
I said, uh huh.
goes, you just want me to shutup and put it in?
I went, Uhhuh.
He's like, okay.
And then,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (33:29):
I love it.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (33:29):
know,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (33:29):
by yesterday all the guys were
like, wow, this really lookedgood together.
I'm like,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (33:34):
And you went Uhhuh.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (33:38):
It's called Visual Noise.
We'll have another podcast aboutthat later,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (33:43):
Oh.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (33:45):
Yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (33:45):
anyway.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (33:46):
able to see the end picture that you,
we've talked about that on here.
Like
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (33:49):
Okay.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (33:49):
know.
Having to, you know, what helpedme the most, and this was the
sad situation, was, uh, I, withour bed with the bedroom, and
this is kind of example likewhat you're talking about,
Stuart, like they don't see theend in end picture in their
mind, right?
So I kept saying over and over,this is what I wanted to do.
This is what I wanted to do,this is what I wanted to do.
And I
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (34:09):
I tried to find good
representation.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (34:10):
of it at the time and I couldn't, I
couldn't find like something Icould show him.
then we got the Ballard'scatalog and I'll be damned.
You know, there it was.
And I was like, see, honey, thisis, this is what I'm talking
about.
He's like, how did you make themdo that?
I said, I
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (34:25):
I didn't
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (34:25):
make them
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (34:26):
do
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (34:26):
That was what you had nothing to do
with, this is just what
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (34:29):
what I.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (34:29):
about.
He's like, how do you know?
I was like,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (34:34):
It is like quail.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (34:35):
I don't know.
Call me Ms.
Clary.
I don't know.
Like I, this is what I wanna
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (34:39):
Because I'm a designer.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (34:42):
you know?
But yeah, but I do love my, I dolove how dark the room is and
it's moody.
I wish the ceiling was done, butyou know next house, whenever
that is.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (34:52):
Hm.
Okay.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (34:52):
Are you moving?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (34:53):
No, no.
We'll be here forever, but you
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (34:55):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (34:55):
I can keep saying.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (34:56):
Then go ahead and get the champagne
and ceiling painted,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (34:58):
was
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (34:58):
do sake
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (34:59):
then paint the trim.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (35:01):
out.
We've got homework for our, forour audience, Jeremy.
If you've color drenched a room,send us a picture.
Reach out to us, let us know.
Show us a picture.
Yeah, I wanna, I wanna know whatyou've done.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (35:12):
Yeah, yeah.
All
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (35:13):
Okay.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (35:14):
us.
Show us do.
Let's do a little show and tell.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (35:16):
And then we'll
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (35:17):
Yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (35:17):
the next podcast.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (35:21):
Well let listeners thank you so much
for listening to us again today.
If you have not downloaded ourmobile shopping app,
HouseFloral, please do.
It is linked down in the shownotes below.
we have fun live sales and lotsof videos and things shown there
that it, you can be part of thefund from wherever you are.
Anytime new podcast come everyWednesday.
And don't forget we have ahotline, which I don't remember
what the number is and I'm notgonna take the time to look it
(35:43):
up, but it's down in the shownotes so you can call and call
us there, um, and tell us any ofyour opinions.
Love to hear.
All
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (35:49):
Thank you guys.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (35:50):
Bye.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (35:51):
Bye.
This week's podcast is about atwo word term that has been
everywhere recently.
We're talking on the Today Show.
We're talking about on yourTikTok feed, we're talking about
in social posts.
It has been everywhere, likeit's a brand new idea.
And guys, it's not.
But the two word term is colordrenching.
(00:21):
Now listen, if you don't knowwhat that is, no fears because
by the end of this podcast,you're gonna know what it is,
how we use it, and why.
It's one of our favorite ways toadd a ton of drama to a space
that just makes you just wannasit in there forever.
Let's get to the podcast.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (01:41):
On today's podcast, we are
discussing this whole.
I'm gonna call it a trendy name,but it's not a new thing, but
it's this whole idea of colordrenching.
Now, for those who may not knowwhat it is, would the one of you
all like to explain what colordrenching is,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (02:01):
well the general idea is the
definition is painting walls,ceiling trim, and even furniture
the same hue.
So basically the way I wouldexplain it to a client is like,
look, you see your living room,bedroom, whatever room we're
dealing with, I wanna take thisroom and just dip it in a paint
of can and pull it back out.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (02:20):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (02:21):
And that's what we're doing, right?
That's the easy way to do it.
Now
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (02:24):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0 (02:25):
semantics and we're gonna get into all of
that, but that's basically youjust drop your room in a paint
can and okay, that's what itlooks like.
We're done.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (02:32):
Yeah, so the idea is to envelop
yourselves into, this, a sea ofcolor, right?
Whatever color it may be.
And it doesn't have to be likecolor or a dark color.
It can, you can do it in abright, neutral tone too, but
it's basically paint everythingbeing color washed.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (02:49):
Well, and I'm sure we have a lot of,
um, listeners that have viewed,Bridgerton.
Because
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (02:59):
think so?
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (02:59):
are looking at me.
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (03:01):
I'm thinking, I'm trying to think
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (03:02):
because every
jeremy-guest949_1_04-2 (03:04):
everyone
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (03:05):
in every set this drenched in
color,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (03:10):
See, I, we haven't watched this
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (03:11):
and what you see is the pattern of
the furniture and theirclothing, but the background is
literally all the same color inevery single room that they're
in, which is what makes it socinematic and beautiful.
Hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (03:24):
Well,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (03:24):
are like a tele, you're, you're like
a color person then.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (03:27):
Mm-hmm.
I'm all about the coloreddrench.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (03:30):
yeah, I, so it has been like on my
social media, especially TikTok.
has been, of course I got ontoColored Ridge TikTok evidently,
but, it has appeared to be outthere a lot.
People are talking about thisbrand new, way to do it and that
couldn't be further from thetruth.
It's been around forever.
(03:52):
I mean, a lot of high-end or.
You know, designers used to, youknow, did a lot of toys where I
remember seeing it.
'cause I think those were thepeople that had the money to do
it.
And if they hated it, they'djust change it later.
They didn't have to worry about,you know, if, if they didn't
love it.
but you would always see them inthese beautiful design magazines
and it was just so dramatic and,um, beautiful.
(04:13):
But it's caught on and I wonderif it is because of what you're
talking about, Stuart, withBridgerton, if people have seen
that and then now they've,they've, you know,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (04:21):
Well, and, and that's the thing.
It wasn't new just tobridgerton.
That was period.
That was the period, and that'swhat they did in that timeframe
because
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (04:31):
I have to admit I've been doing
this.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (04:32):
don't know.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2 (04:33):
around
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (04:33):
There you go.
Well,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (04:34):
was having tea with them
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (04:38):
In your
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (04:39):
and, and writing to my loyal
listeners.
I've
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (04:44):
I have to say I've been doing this
for a while and it's not thatI'm a genius.
I didn't know what I was doing.
And
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (04:51):
the.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (04:51):
It's like, I always like to room and
it's, you know, not, notnecessarily all the crown
moldings and doors to beoutlined and white.
And I was like, it just onecolor.
And so I've been doing it for awhile and then somebody.
Probably only three or fouryears ago, truthfully.
So she's like,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (05:08):
like,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (05:09):
can I color drench my room?
And I'm like, okay, I don't knowwhat that is.
Tell me what that is.
She told me and I went, oh,okay.
I didn't know that's what thatwas.
Yeah, we can do that.
It's real good.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (05:19):
Well, you know, the first time I
remember seeing it like inperson Dwayne, was when you did
it at, Deborah's old house atthat, that big,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (05:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (05:27):
room.
And I, it was so beautiful.
The color was gorgeous and itwas just a beautiful sitting
room, and it was so moody and.
Um, I remembered loving it thenI didn't know what it was called
then either.
I just, you
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (05:38):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (05:38):
was,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (05:39):
I just learned, so yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (05:40):
this is fancy,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (05:41):
you fancy.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (05:42):
and now we've got a term for it.
So, you know,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (05:44):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, when she said it, I waslike, oh, finally, finally, I'm
not crazy
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (05:51):
you know what to
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09 (05:52):
because, you know, honestly, Stuart may
have noticed it, but I, I don'twatch Bridgeton.
I don't even know what it is,truthfully.
Okay.
So I can't learn from that.
And I don't live in a periodhouse like he does from his
antebellum year.
So I didn't have to do homework.
And Stuart he's the only realofficial designer.
(06:12):
He's has a a degree and he usedto be real pernick about it.
And it was J.
Stuart, Hurt ASID Deser.
I think he's moved on past that,but he, because he, he's
confident in himself that he's,he's a deserter designer and,
uh, but he's really, now Jeremyhas a background for those who
(06:34):
don't know in, it's calledvisual apparel.
Visual merchandising.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (06:38):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (06:40):
it's, you have a visual how to
display.
I think it's more complicatedthan that, and colors and
things, uh, right.
But you do, you, you have, I'mnot dismissing you because you
do have a background that's inthat field of study.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (06:53):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (06:54):
It's visual.
Right.
And Stuart has the, the, I'mgonna call it the real deal,
right?
He's, he can, he can, he can, heis the A SID, he's the real
deal.
Me, I'm just a old Joe Schmowith, uh, some accounting degree
that can't balance thecheckbook.
So.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (07:07):
with a paint book,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (07:09):
There you go.
jeremy-guest949_1_04 (07:10):
decorator.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (07:11):
Scale a blonde decorator, right?
So I say that in that each ofyou, probably more particular
steward, you know, is educatedin this and may have read about
it and learned about I, I don'tknow, I'm, we can learn from
this.
I just, you know, anything thatI do and learn is either through
copying somebody, mistake orinstinct.
(07:31):
It's certainly not through bookknowledge.
I guess what my answer is, so Ican't say to you.
I knew anything about this andit was period something, because
I don't have that background, soI stumble into stuff just
because it's just dumb lucksometimes.
I think
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (07:45):
Oh, that's how it works
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (07:47):
that works sometimes, right?
You think that's how we stumbleeach into each other?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (07:52):
uh, you know, if this wasn't fake by
the devil, I don't know.
What was I.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (07:58):
Um, oh, that's funny.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (07:59):
think one of the reasons why people,
love it and why designers go,can go to is one of it.
It, well, it can, and I'm gonnaput that in quotation marks can
be an inexpensive way, to reallyadd a ton of drama to a space
without having to spend moneyon.
you know, a wall covering or,you know, those kinds of things.
But it helps to have trim,right?
(08:20):
Like it helps to have thosekinds of
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (08:21):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (08:22):
the architectural interest to it,
right?
And when I
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (08:24):
I think that's part of the success
is really it has to have trim,truthfully.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (08:28):
abso, yeah, I, that helps a ton, but
it just creates a really,intimate, moody, just.
Enveloping space, and dependingon whether you
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (08:39):
You go
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (08:40):
dark or whether you go bright, it
feels completely
stuart-host173_1_04- (08:43):
different.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (08:43):
it, it
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (08:44):
Just feels
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (08:45):
like
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (08:45):
like
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (08:45):
wrapped that, that like that I think
about Temple Grandin, I think ofher just like being the big old
hug, right?
Like I just feel like I'm beinghugged by the room one way or
another.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2 (08:53):
right.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (08:53):
um, I think that's one of the
reasons why people love it somuch or we'll use
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (08:57):
Well, we've referenced Stuart's, uh,
formal living room, uh, at hishome, and it, it's, it's a
large, really large scale room.
How big is, how big is yourformal living room at your
house, Stuart?
Roughly.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (09:10):
24 by 26.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (09:12):
Yeah.
That's huge.
Right?
And ceilings are how, how tall,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (09:17):
uh, 15 and a half.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0905 (09:19):
right?
You, you understanding?
Scale, that's a massive scaleroom.
Right.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (09:23):
Hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (09:24):
And I point that out is because he
color drenched that room and itis a more intense color.
Right?
But it's not dark, but it isintense color.
But we did, a photo shoot at hishouse a few weeks ago and we sat
down there waiting foreverything to get prepared.
And let me tell you that room.
You know, it felt grand, right?
(09:46):
But it didn't feel, cavernous.
It, it felt warm and cozyinviting and it lent itself to
ease of sitting there and havinga beautiful conversation.
And first I'll, I.
Pivot to that is giving creditto Stuart, that he was able to,
curate things in this room thattold stories and gave seating
(10:09):
that was comfortable.
But part of the success was thecolor drenching in that room
that made it feel moody andintimate.
And where if it were notaddressed that way, I don't know
that it would've.
Been a room that you want tonecessarily hang out in.
So you created a beautiful roomby color, trenching.
(10:30):
And even truthfully, the tone ofcolor is part of its success
once it's said and done.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (10:35):
Well,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (10:36):
So.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (10:36):
what color drenching or wrapping
everything in one color it cando.
For example, with Stuart's room,it's a huge room, but it then
also helps feel like it shrinksdown a little bit.
It doesn't feel like it's super
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (10:47):
Hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (10:48):
It can also do the complete
opposite thing.
So if you're in a really smallroom, for example, it doesn't
make it feel small.
It does make it feel smaller tome.
'cause I think you're just stillenveloped in that color, right?
Like
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (10:58):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (10:59):
a powder room, for example.
Um.
It doesn't make it, I don'tthink it feel, feels like it
shrinks it in, it just makes itfeel like it's hugging.
That's the only way I know howto explain that.
It just feel like it's
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (11:07):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (11:10):
so a lot of the places where you
will see this, I mean, are,they're the really common spaces
like powder rooms, home offices.
'cause you can have a lot of funwith that and bedrooms.
'cause everybody loves a bootybedroom.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (11:22):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (11:24):
So when he references moody,
typically I think of a darkercolor, right?
Typically Right.
I, I would say it that way.
Um, guys, when you, said that wewere gonna do this topic and I
started thinking about thingsI've done and projects I've
done.
And it's actually, I startedremembering one of the rooms
that we did together.
And again, I've got images thatwe'll share.
(11:45):
Um, it was when we did the, um,ombudsman,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (11:49):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09 (11:50):
showcase house.
Again, probably close to 10years ago, if you recall, but we
took the room and paintedeverything one color
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (11:59):
Was it the,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (11:59):
that the, the Dark Navy.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (12:00):
blue?
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (12:01):
It was,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (12:01):
yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (12:02):
Oh yeah, yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (12:03):
yeah.
Yeah.
I know y'all
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (12:05):
room.
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (12:06):
I thought, Lord, them people.
I didn't know if they knew whatwas gonna happen.
'cause it was this beautifulwood paneling room and then you
said, you were like, I'm
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (12:12):
We're gonna paint it all.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (12:14):
well, I'll, I'll, uh.
Well, it what, okay, first, Iwould take issue with beautiful
paneled room, uh, because it.
jeremy-guest949_1_04- (12:23):
remember.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (12:24):
Well,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (12:25):
I just
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (12:25):
it was,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (12:26):
detail,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (12:27):
was a paneled, it was a, a connector
together room, and they actuallyused it as a billiard room.
They had a pool table in there,which was awful, and a, a UK
light fixture.
And it was, and it wasbeautifully paneled.
Yeah, it was beautifullypaneled.
Room.
But the problem was that theyused subpar wood and the grainy
(12:47):
and the colors and the texturesand all that just was subpar.
So you saw too many textures.
And it also was then stainedthis horrific orangey red cherry
color, right?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (12:59):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (13:00):
And all I did is walk in and see,
instead of seeing beautifulpaneling, I just walked in and
saw 1983 cheap builder.
Right.
And so the two directors of thisproject who were owners of the
house also at the, at the time,uh, you know, I had to say, Hey.
(13:21):
White man who's not homosexual.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (13:24):
man.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (13:24):
I want straight man.
There you go.
I, I want to paint you wood.
I wanna mess with you wood.
Okay, brother.
And, uh, it, it did not go well.
I don't know if, I don't thinkyou guys were there.
I think I was pitching the ideaand
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (13:39):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (13:39):
like, yeah, no, you can't do that.
And I was like, yeah, we we'regonna paint it.
And not only we're gonna paintit, we're gonna paint it dark
Navy blue.
Oh yeah.
You're not gonna paint it.
What?
No, we're gonna paint it reallydark.
Navy blue.
No, you can't do that.
Yeah.
You can keep saying no, butwe're gonna do it.
(14:00):
And he's like, well, do youwanna keep the pool table in
here?
Yeah, no, you need to get rid ofthat pool table.
You can't work around it.
No.
You know, it's a lot of work toget rid of that.
And I was like, yeah.
Again, remember we're gonnapaint the paneling and I need
rid of the pool table and well,do you wanna keep the uk Uh, lot
that's made out of stain glass.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (14:18):
Uh,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (14:18):
No, you need to take that down too.
Oh, that's expensive.
Somebody like that.
It's like, well, I don't, Idon't.
So we're gonna paint the room.
Navy, we're gonna get rid of thepool table and the lot.
Oh, and so one of the old boyswent home and told the wife what
I had pitched, and the next dayhe is like, yeah, Amber says she
likes it, so I guess we're doingdo it.
And I said, thank you.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (14:39):
Well, and so for people who are not
local to us, so it's basicallylike a decorator showcase house.
So designers come in, finish aroom, and then people buy
tickets to to see it, and then.
the money benefits, a charityhere or an organization that
takes care, helps, uh, navigate,uh, elder care in, nursing homes
and stuff like that,representing them.
So it was, it was a great,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (15:00):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (15:01):
cause and it
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (15:02):
mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (15:02):
uh, room.
So we weren't like dealing with
stuart-host173_1_04- (15:05):
Homeowner.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (15:06):
going to live in the house because the
house was gonna be useddifferently in for this
subdivision.
I think it was gonna be like acommunity.
I don't really know what that
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:15):
Yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (15:15):
Yeah.
It's basically gonna be their,uh, clubhouse, so to speak.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (15:19):
That's it.
Yeah.
So
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:20):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (15:20):
don't think that we ever looking at
homeowner who's gonna live thereand be like, nah, we're gonna do
what
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:25):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (15:26):
gonna
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:26):
yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-2 (15:27):
Symphony lamp out on the front
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (15:29):
yeah.
No, this one, you're right.
I need to, it sounded like I wascoming across crass, but uh,
this one, when you do somethinglike that in its first showcase,
uh, your job is to.
Push the envelope a little bit.
Put things out there that are
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (15:44):
Make
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0905 (15:45):
little more designed.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (15:46):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (15:46):
Make people talk.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (15:47):
So.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (15:47):
So with that said, I have images.
Again, we'll share those so thatyou don't think we're crazy
because it's ultimately aclassic room and we, um.
Now high praise for it.
And that's not the end result.
But the, that, it was wellreceived.
So we didn't do anything toocrazy, I don't think it was
very, very, very well received.
the sweet story was on this one,guys that, Megan, who has now
(16:12):
since passed, you know, she dida beautiful room
jeremy-guest949_1_04 (16:14):
beautiful.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0 (16:15):
Beautiful room, right?
Beautiful room, and, the lastday of the, showcase.
She, and her husband were thereand, and my wife and and I were
there and she came up and shewas somewhat timid and she said,
I hate to ask this, but my,husband just loves the paint
color you guys did.
Would you, I.
Mind to share that with me'causehe wants to do his office that
way.
Well, for me, that's incrediblecompliment, right?
(16:37):
Because I really did love heraesthetic and what she did and
the room that she created thatthis house was stunning.
And I said, well, of course.
And so for listening audience,it is Naval, uh, by Sherwin
Williams.
Again, we'll post that Naval bySher Williams.
And this is the most beautifulclassic Navy color, right?
There's other good ones, butyeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (16:56):
Not N-A-V-E-L because they have
both.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (17:00):
There you go.
Yeah.
And we'll, then we'll post it.
Um, but the funny part is I saidI would happily share it, but
then I said, so I'm gonna pivotto you and say, I too have been
hesitant, but I wanna know whatyour paint color is because I
wanna use it for a clientbecause I found it to be the
most beautiful color that, I'veseen in quite a long time.
So one of those things that itgoes back to, saying that,
(17:24):
working together with talentedpeople is such a pleasure.
And that was a wonderful projectthat we worked together on many,
many, many local designers.
That was a fun project.
Uh, now the behind the scenesdrama was a, a different story,
but
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (17:37):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (17:37):
with the designers, uh, was
wonderful.
They, they all stepped up.
So anyway, Naval.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (17:42):
So if you're thinking of color
drenching, we, you know, we'vementioned some rooms that are,
you know, easy to do.
A pals room, for example.
It's really easy to do it'causeit's like a little short
theater, right?
Like you, like I always do.
That's what I call, you get in,you get out, and you don't have
to be too terrified if you dosomething really dramatic.
Um, the color I don't think is.
I mean, picking the right colorcan be, an issue, uh, if you
(18:03):
pick an ugly color.
Um, but I think as long as youpick something that speaks
through to your heart, um, thatyou will, um, love it.
And one of the Dwayne, didn'tyou do a basement that was all
black Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (18:17):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (18:17):
Yeah.
And I,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (18:19):
yeah.
Well, the, the, the mom of myclient said it looked like the
Devil's Cave, uh, but theclient, and I loved it though.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (18:27):
Well, you know, we had, lunch with our
friend Sean yesterday, and inhis previous home, in their
little sing room, we colored,drenched it and we did it in
Black Fox and, or was it iron?
Iron ore?
Maybe we did iron ore.
Both those Sherman Williamscolors, but they're really dark
gray, black, uh, and I mean, itwas moody, but, oh god, it was
good.
So, uh, you
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (18:46):
Here.
Here, what he just said.
Basically black.
But black is not black.
Right?
And there's all, there's not allequal.
So there's a color called ironore.
Look it up.
Sherman Williams, uh, black Foxis a, a brown black, right?
And then I did a theater room,uh, in a basement, and, uh, it
(19:06):
was called porpoise, uh,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (19:07):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_0 (19:08):
Williams.
And it is.
Charcoal, but a little green inher tone.
Again, really love that color.
So those three beautifulcharcoal kind of colors to
investigate if that's somethingthat you, um, find interesting
for you.
But yeah, absolutely beautifulcolors.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (19:23):
And if you know always.
Sampling the colors is a reallysuper important thing to do.
But what I would recommend forpeople, and we did this with my
in-laws, they were looking atpainting their living room and
they were just like, well, Ijust don't wanna paint all these
big swatches around.
And I said, well, you don't haveto paint the big swatches.
You can go to Samplize, whichthis is not a, an ad for sample,
(19:43):
but, um, you can go tosamplize.com, which is
S-A-M-P-L-I-Z-E-I believe.com.
And they have.
Paint stickers.
I don't remember how big theyare, but they're probably 12 by
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (19:54):
yeah, they're pretty large, I think.
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (19:56):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (19:57):
They have Benjamin Moore colors, they
have Sherwin William colors,they have Pharaoh and ball, and
they have PPG paint.
And so you can order any paintcolor that they have and you can
order, and basically theserepositionable big square
stickers.
And so you can literally put itin the corner of the room on all
three, like the two corner wallsand the ceiling.
So you can kind of see it, youcan put it on your tra like you
(20:18):
can.
Put it down so you can see howit's gonna feel in a little bit
bigger space.
Plus different walls, castdifferent shadows and all those
kinds of things.
But I think that's really, um,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (20:28):
like contact paper, uh, paint
sticker,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (20:30):
destroy your wall.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (20:31):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (20:32):
you can
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (20:32):
Yeah.
It, it comes off
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (20:33):
back and
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (20:34):
post.
Oh, here's a way.
It's a big giant paint post-itnote.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-2 (20:37):
Exactly.
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (20:39):
That's, yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (20:40):
Yeah.
So
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (20:40):
Yeah.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (20:41):
a great way for,'cause you know,
look, we all understand seeinglittle bit, little bitty paint
colors ain't gonna do nobody nogood.
You gotta see it on a biggersurface, right?
You gotta make it bigger.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (20:50):
Well, here's the crazy part.
They're, they're six,$7 each oneof them, right?
Something like that.
$8, I dunno, in that range.
But the thing is, you gonna siton your couch and you're gonna
order it.
You don't have to go to thepaint store.
You don't have to get, you don'thave to wait on the ru paint guy
to get you the paint samplesdone.
And like, you just want twosamples.
You don't wanna buy$50,000 agallon of paint, you know,
(21:11):
dealing with those fools there,right?
So you get your paint samplesand then you couch at 11 o'clock
at night.
We all been there, right?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (21:19):
I, you know what?
Honestly, I have not.
All of the people that I'vedealt with at our local little
paints, they are all sopleasant.
That's why I'm like, I,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (21:26):
Well, maybe it's me, what I putting
out there?
There you go.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (21:28):
I
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (21:29):
We'll just say,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (21:30):
I just send my people.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (21:32):
okay.
Well, I don't have people's,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (21:33):
will deal with it, but like locally
for me, across from our home,our, our little Sherwin Williams
store over there, like,everybody's been so kind to me,
so that's why I'm
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (21:40):
well, well, I'll just pivot.
It's all me, Jeremy.
Thank you.
Uh, so I'll choose to sit on mycouches.
Oh.
Kids, if you don't know, if youdon't know what kind of week
we've had, I have caused moreproblems.
I have stirred up more crap.
I have called more issues forthese two.
I have.
I'm telling you, it's been aweek and we ain't done yet.
(22:04):
Um, so there you go.
It's all me too.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (22:06):
Tuesday of this.
By Tuesday of this week, I hadtold you that I was gonna kill
you more times than I'veprobably told you in the entire
25 years I've known you, or
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (22:15):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (22:15):
so we,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (22:16):
It's
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (22:17):
we're gonna.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (22:17):
cat moon is coming this Saturday.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (22:19):
She's like, cat moon,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (22:21):
Yes.
Have you not seen that?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (22:23):
No,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (22:24):
It's a smiley face, cat moon coming.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (22:26):
Oh, I
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (22:26):
planets are gonna be above the moon.
It's gonna be a little smileyface with eyeballs.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (22:30):
Oh yeah, I did see
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (22:32):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (22:33):
I have no clue, but that explains.
I don't like catsa.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (22:36):
beckon.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (22:38):
Some crazy cat ladies.
Um, well.
The thing that, sticks out to mefor this week, was there was a
conversation in, this is notmaking a lot of people and their
struggles with their, uh, mentalhealth issues.
It really isn't.
But I think America is on theedge.
And I'm saying that I might beworking with some people that
(23:00):
might need some meds in theirworld that kind of calm'em down
a little bit and they'readmitting to me in a meeting,
well, I might take somemedicines to kind of level me
out a little bit.
'cause I'm jittery, right?
I'm not naming names.
The other two.
And when I said this I said,well, I don't take anything.
Then I stopped and I paused andthought, am I the common
(23:22):
denominator because of everybodyin my life has to take drugs to
level out and I don't.
Am I the problem?
So I'm asking myself.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (23:32):
I mean,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (23:35):
They ain't saying no, folks.
They ain't saying no.
There you go.
Anyway.
jeremy-guest949_1_04 (23:39):
medication
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (23:39):
I mean,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (23:40):
now.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (23:41):
roots have tentacles is all I'm
saying.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (23:47):
Anyway, that, that, that's, that's
summation of this week mylearning experience.
So, We were talking aboutordering the samples.
You can literally sit on yourcouch, go to this website.
I don't know what voodoo theydo, but if you order at 11
o'clock that night, it'sprobably gonna sit on your
doorstep at two o'clock the nextday.
I have never seen this.
Literally, you order it and it'slike within your hands, within
(24:08):
like 10 hours or something.
So you gonna get your samplesvery quickly.
Yeah.
The other positivity and
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (24:13):
take two weeks to get it Sure.
As shit.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (24:15):
Well, they like me better than them.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (24:18):
That
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (24:18):
you go.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (24:18):
must be so, okay.
So you can put that on all thesurfaces.
You can see how it's going tolook.
Um, and it'll give you an ideaof how it's gonna feel.
Now here's some pointers if youdo color drenching and ways to
try to make the room still.
Interesting visually, aside fromjust being all the color, right?
So I always suggest people makesure.
(24:40):
You've got all three layers oflighting, right?
So you've got your ambient taskand accent, right?
So those will help.
And then when you put yourfurniture and things in, um,
making sure that you usedifferent kinds of, materials
like whether it's velvet leatherand all those kind of things
like that adds a lot of texturalinterest to the space,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (24:59):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-2 (25:01):
probably kicker is sure you pick the
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (25:06):
You right?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (25:06):
sheen.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (25:08):
Yeah,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (25:08):
would think for your
stuart-host173_1_04 (25:09):
definitely.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (25:10):
if
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (25:11):
If you.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (25:11):
some popped walls, some walls that
are not even where they bow, youdo not wanna do a high gloss.
People you don't wanna do.
We all, I think we all threelove a lacquered wall and
ceiling.
I mean, we
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (25:23):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (25:24):
finish
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (25:24):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (25:25):
that goes back to like what we talked
about a couple of podcasts ago,but you have to have a level
five finish rack on the wall.
It's gotta be perfect.
Everything's gotta be
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2 (25:30):
Glass.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (25:31):
to put high sheen on, right.
So if you don't have thatsituation, please, I would not
suggest to do it.
'cause you're just gonna look atevery flaw.
You know?
That's when you would use likean eggshell or something that's
not as shey.
So it's not gonna show all thethe hiccups, wouldn't you think?
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (25:47):
100%.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (25:48):
Oh
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_ (25:48):
generally, in most situations, I'm not
going to do a room, I'm going doa, a satin or an eggshell anyway
on most walls, you know.
Uh, lacquered walls are, uh, forvery special limited
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (26:01):
It's
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_ (26:01):
instances,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (26:02):
Yeah.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:02):
very specific, and also to get it
done and get that done well isvery expensive.
So that is, that is not foreverybody unless you can do it
for yourself.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (26:11):
And that's
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:11):
Uh
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (26:12):
that paint could be inexpensive,
right?
Like if, if you're trying to gofor that lacquered field, that's
a whole other level of, effortand money and finished work,
that somebody's gotta know whatthey're doing versus you just
going in with the
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:25):
For me, unless you're very, this is
not A-D-D-I-Y kind of thing onlacquered walls.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (26:30):
Oh Lord,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:30):
Now anybody can, right.
A lot of people can
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (26:33):
No.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (26:34):
pick up a paintbrush and if you're
careful, you can paint your ownroom.
I don't want to, I used to, butI'm too old, too fat.
I ain't gonna do it anymore.
But if you wanna paint your ownroom, you know, do a, a more
flat finish and exhale or satin,and you probably can't screw it
up too much once it's said anddone.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (26:50):
I'm just interested in color.
Would you, would you allprobably end up doing more
moody, strong color, or wouldyou do more color?
Like
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (26:59):
I would do moody because it, I
think it shows better,especially when you have three
different sheens in your room.
mean, if you're in a, in apastel, muted color.
I think to get that to work,you're gonna have to go
everything up a sheen from whatyou normally would
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24 (27:15):
Mm-hmm.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (27:15):
like your trim, like let's say it's a
pastel pink or a really lightpink.
Then your trim has to be highgloss, your walls do need some
sort of semi gloss and then asatin on the ceiling because
it's just not gonna read if youpaint everything And just a
regular gloss.
It's just gonna look like powderwent on the room because if you
(27:38):
really want that definition,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (27:39):
See, it's funny.
Uh, okay, let's do two things.
I think of color drenching.
I generally, when I think ofcolor drenching, I really do
think for some reason it's moreintense color.
Right?
Even though color drenchingtechnically, it really can be
light, right?
But for color drenching, it justseems drenching is a war that
seems strong and it seems moreintense to me, so I feel like
(28:00):
it's a darker color.
With that said, I finished mybasement a couple years ago and
with limited light and all thetricks I did, I actually color
drenched everything and Ipainted everything white.
So technically that's colordrenched, right?
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (28:16):
sure, sure.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (28:16):
But I don't see it that way so much.
I just see it as uniform and Ineed it.
I didn't wanna, uh, break it up.
I didn't want too many colors.
But technically I see that astechnically color drenching when
it's one color and there'sdifferent of it.
I don't know if you agree withthat one.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (28:30):
that more as monochromatic.
I don't see that as
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (28:32):
Okay.
So, so then is color drenchingthen really more intense?
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (28:38):
I think it's.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (28:40):
I still think you can do it in
like a cream or a tan or I thinkyou could do it in that kind of
way.
It doesn't have to be like adark blue green or it doesn't
have to be a black.
I think it's just a differentway to do it.
I mean, think about a kitchen,like my
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (28:51):
My kitchen,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (28:53):
walls.
The, the, um, the walls, the
stuart-host173_1_04-24 (28:56):
cabinet.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (28:56):
the ceiling, uh, now except for the
wet, the wet bar in, in ourisland, those are different
things, but all the othersurfaces are all painted the
same color, and it's all white.
So for me, that color drenching,those, like that whole thing.
Um, me it is.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (29:12):
Okay, so, so the one I did, and it's
clients of mine who built alittle, uh, Southern Living
Bungo, that looks like a littleschoolhouse.
I.
Painted.
So it, this house is like 1600square feet.
It looks like an old schoolhouse.
You walk in the front door, youare literally in just one big
room.
There's not even a foyer, right?
And you look to the back of thehouse, 24 feet long or whatever
(29:34):
it is.
Uh, and it's the kitchen.
And so the, uh, Malin, thecabinet guy, when I had him
paint the cabinetry.
We have beadboard, we havewalls, we have cabinetry.
I literally did Rin, that whole.
House in particular, I'm stayingin this room and everything is
painted.
Um, just a light khaki color.
(29:55):
And because when I opened thefront door, I didn't wanna walk
in and see white cabinets inkhaki trim, and I just wanted it
to be one color.
And for some reason, I.
I can understand a darker room,more intense room is color
drenching,
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (30:10):
Mm-hmm.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (30:11):
but when I was pitching the idea of
all the trim walls, B board,ceilings, cabinetry, everything,
one color, I had a nervousenergy and I didn't see it as
color drenching, right.
But what I was saying is, I wantall one color.
And, she said to me, do youthink this is the right answer?
I'm like, I don't know.
(30:32):
You know, the rot, and that'sthe confidence you want from a
designer when you're having, youknow, thousands of dollars worth
of cabinets done and trim workand stuff.
Do you think it should be allone color?
I don't know.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (30:44):
you're
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (30:44):
I think it's rot.
Maybe, right?
I know and I couldn't.
I was in my own head, and if I'dhad this conversation, what
we're hearing today, then a yearago, eight months ago, whenever
I was doing this, if I would'veheard it, I would've had more
confidence because it really iscolor drenching.
But in my head, suppose I alwaysthink as color drenching is more
(31:07):
intense, but truthfully, it canbe.
Lighter shades and the endresult is kids.
The, the spaces that that, thatwe did together, uh, is
beautiful and she loves it and Ilove it.
And it is color drenched and itis neutral.
It's just a light khaki color.
It's, I think it's calledfavorite tan.
I can't remember the color.
Uh, but beautiful.
(31:27):
And it is.
Now I can say to you.
Can we paint it a lighter colorand it'd be all the same.
And I wouldn't say, I don'tknow.
I could say, yep, it's good.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (31:37):
S Paint it all!.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (31:38):
all, paint it
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (31:39):
it all.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (31:40):
okay.
Is there, uh, but are there anyother things that we want to
bring up about it?
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (31:43):
we've talked about everything.
Except if you're do it, yougotta do the ceiling too.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (31:49):
Oh yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (31:50):
You got to, you gotta do it all.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (31:52):
in our bedroom when we did, our
primary, when we, I wanted to doa dark green color and you have
no idea.
The fight that I had to have to,not the fight, that's the wrong
word.
The Effort I had to put in tohave my loving husband, trust me
enough.
and you know, we've talked onhere before that our mates often
will, question,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (32:13):
Uh.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (32:14):
um, things that we know that's
right.
We, you know, it's, I'm like,look, this is what people pay us
to do.
Like, trust us.
Um, there was a lot of effort.
There was a lot of
stuart-host173_1 (32:24):
Conversations,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (32:25):
it, but we
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (32:25):
but we were able to,
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (32:26):
green.
However, I
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (32:27):
I was not allowed to.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (32:28):
trim or the ceiling.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (32:30):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (32:30):
And, um, that's like, that's my one
regret.
Like, I wish that that couldhave been
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (32:36):
Well do it now.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (32:38):
Oh, I don't wanna put any more
effort into that, but Room.
It's a smile.
It's done.
Like, it's, I don't wanna, I'mgonna have to, no, I
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (32:46):
Wow.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (32:46):
He just gave up.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (32:48):
He just gave up.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (32:49):
we heard from, from, um, our, our,
our lovely contractor and myspouse last week.
Uh, I was questioned on Mondayfor a client's house they were
starting to do the tile for theprimary bathroom.
He called me, he's like, boo.
You think you ordered the righttile?
(33:11):
I went, huh?
He goes, well, there's threedifferent ones.
I went, Uhhuh, he goes, I, Idon't know that all these go
together.
I said, uh huh.
goes, you just want me to shutup and put it in?
I went, Uhhuh.
He's like, okay.
And then,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (33:29):
I love it.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (33:29):
know,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (33:29):
by yesterday all the guys were
like, wow, this really lookedgood together.
I'm like,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (33:34):
And you went Uhhuh.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (33:38):
It's called Visual Noise.
We'll have another podcast aboutthat later,
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (33:43):
Oh.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (33:45):
Yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24- (33:45):
anyway.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (33:46):
able to see the end picture that you,
we've talked about that on here.
Like
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (33:49):
Okay.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (33:49):
know.
Having to, you know, what helpedme the most, and this was the
sad situation, was, uh, I, withour bed with the bedroom, and
this is kind of example likewhat you're talking about,
Stuart, like they don't see theend in end picture in their
mind, right?
So I kept saying over and over,this is what I wanted to do.
This is what I wanted to do,this is what I wanted to do.
And I
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (34:09):
I tried to find good
representation.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025 (34:10):
of it at the time and I couldn't, I
couldn't find like something Icould show him.
then we got the Ballard'scatalog and I'll be damned.
You know, there it was.
And I was like, see, honey, thisis, this is what I'm talking
about.
He's like, how did you make themdo that?
I said, I
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_0 (34:25):
I didn't
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (34:25):
make them
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (34:26):
do
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (34:26):
That was what you had nothing to do
with, this is just what
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (34:29):
what I.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24- (34:29):
about.
He's like, how do you know?
I was like,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025_ (34:34):
It is like quail.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (34:35):
I don't know.
Call me Ms.
Clary.
I don't know.
Like I, this is what I wanna
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (34:39):
Because I'm a designer.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (34:42):
you know?
But yeah, but I do love my, I dolove how dark the room is and
it's moody.
I wish the ceiling was done, butyou know next house, whenever
that is.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (34:52):
Hm.
Okay.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (34:52):
Are you moving?
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (34:53):
No, no.
We'll be here forever, but you
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090 (34:55):
Mm-hmm.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2025_ (34:55):
I can keep saying.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (34:56):
Then go ahead and get the champagne
and ceiling painted,
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (34:58):
was
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (34:58):
do sake
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (34:59):
then paint the trim.
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_090547 (35:01):
out.
We've got homework for our, forour audience, Jeremy.
If you've color drenched a room,send us a picture.
Reach out to us, let us know.
Show us a picture.
Yeah, I wanna, I wanna know whatyou've done.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-2 (35:12):
Yeah, yeah.
All
stuart-host173_1_04-24-20 (35:13):
Okay.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-202 (35:14):
us.
Show us do.
Let's do a little show and tell.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (35:16):
And then we'll
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (35:17):
Yeah.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-2025 (35:17):
the next podcast.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (35:21):
Well let listeners thank you so much
for listening to us again today.
If you have not downloaded ourmobile shopping app,
HouseFloral, please do.
It is linked down in the shownotes below.
we have fun live sales and lotsof videos and things shown there
that it, you can be part of thefund from wherever you are.
Anytime new podcast come everyWednesday.
And don't forget we have ahotline, which I don't remember
what the number is and I'm notgonna take the time to look it
(35:43):
up, but it's down in the shownotes so you can call and call
us there, um, and tell us any ofyour opinions.
Love to hear.
All
dwayne_1_04-24-2025_09054 (35:49):
Thank you guys.
jeremy-guest949_1_04-24-20 (35:50):
Bye.
stuart-host173_1_04-24-202 (35:51):
Bye.
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