July 24, 2025 • 32 mins
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From hiding beneath blankets to singing on stage, Maggie Marre's transformation from a terrified vocalist to a confident performer reveals the power of confronting your deepest fears. Her story begins with a paradox many creative people understand – loving something so much that sharing it becomes terrifying.
"I had the worst stage fright," Maggie confesses, describing years of vocal lessons where she could barely open her mouth to sing. This wasn't just ordinary nervousness – it was a profound barrier between her passion and its expression. The breakthrough came while watching Taylor Swift's documentary during the pandemic, sparking an emotional epiphany that changed everything. "I was crying... this is what I want to do," she recalls, marking the moment she decided to stop hiding her talent.
What follows is a fascinating glimpse into a young artist's development – from her first nerve-wracking open mic performance to recording her EP "Miss Paranoia" during a whirlwind five-day session in Los Angeles. Serendipity plays its part when her father's random conversation with a stranger on a plane connects her to an A&R representative, creating unexpected professional opportunities. Meanwhile, her experience at Berkeley College of Music reveals a healthy approach to being surrounded by exceptional talent: "There is room for everyone," she emphasizes, finding inspiration rather than intimidation among her peers.
The episode culminates with a moving live performance of "Lifeline," a song exploring the uncertainties of pursuing musical dreams while facing others' expectations. Her voice, with its distinctive emotional qualities and subtle inflections, demonstrates why perseverance through fear was so worthwhile. Listen in for a powerful reminder that sometimes our greatest gifts lie just beyond our comfort zones, waiting to be shared with those who need to hear them.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Alright.
Oh man, this is going to be areally cool show.
Different show.
We've never done ever whatwe're going to do tonight, so
I'm really excited about it.
Hey, Hugo, what do you think ofmy shirt?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
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Very patriotic I didn't mean tosay oh, oh, no, yes.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh yes, don't say oh no.
I mean, come on, patriotic'sgood.
Now, this is probably one ofthe ugliest shirts that I have.
I think it's close to one ofthe ugliest shirts I have, so I
thought I'd wear it today.
I was cooking for the officetoday and I decided I need to
wear something festive.
It's very appropriate.
But you know, even though it'sstill summer and it still works,
(01:04):
that's right.
So that's what I'm going to gowith.
Damn it, All right.
So no, we have a show in storefor you tonight.
That is really, really cool.
It's something different.
You're going to hear some music.
You're going to hear fromsomebody local.
We're not always doing local asmuch anymore, but this is going
to be good.
Her name is Maggie Marr.
She just came out with an EPcalled Miss Paranoia.
I heard some of her stuff onFacebook and Instagram and
(01:26):
things like that, and I thoughtI got to have this girl in here.
So, yeah, so she's here andshe's going to probably play
guitar for us at some point.
Hi, Maggie.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You're very welcome.
I'm glad you could make it, ofcourse, yes, yes.
So this is just amazing becauseI know we know a lot of people
in common.
Now we figured out we know theMcFadden's Maggie and Molly and
Mark and Susan.
It's incredible and I thought,wow, how did I not know this
before through social media?
(01:55):
But you went to school withthem.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I did.
Yeah, I went to Catholic schoolwith them.
We all went to ImmaculateConception Academy.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, unbelievable, let's get into your music.
So you just came out with thisEP.
It was June 20th that it cameout, so it was not too long ago,
and it's called Miss Paranoia.
Tell me about this, because Iknow you went to LA to record
some of these things.
Tell me how you got into thisand where it's going right now.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, so I started, I guess, journey like when I was
super young, of course, butwriting and music have always
been very separate for me.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Also, I had the worst stage fright.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's the part that I couldn't understand.
I would not understand.
I get it, cause I thinkeverybody does have a little bit
of that, obviously, um, but Ithink you have to work through
it, especially if you want to bea musician, cause that wouldn't
work well singing in yourcloset, yeah, I mean, that
doesn't work so well, unlessyou're a studio musician, which
you could do, you know so you.
So you started young.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I did.
I kind of was in and out.
I think my parents um probablyheard me singing in my bedroom.
I used to put like a cover overmy head so nobody could hear
and they would never, ever hearme.
Um, but I think somehow I had alot of energy.
I had three brothers that werevery rambunctious and did sports
, so I think they're kind oftrying to push me towards
something peaceful, um, and whatyour parents were, I had a lot
(03:20):
of energy, so I guess I was justsinging and talking all the
time.
So, they put me in some lessons.
I would not sing, I would notopen my mouth.
My voice teacher, who I've hadthe same voice teacher for since
I was like a toddler, I guessher name is Patricia Keith.
She's amazing, but she reallyhelped me this whole journey and
(03:40):
stuff.
But I would not even sing infront of her.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So.
So if you can't sing or youcan't open your mouth, I'm not
sure how you were you humming, Idon't know.
I'm trying to figure out howyou were singing.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I was like fake singing, but like you know,
singing teachers can tell you'renot singing from your diaphragm
.
Absolutely and she would, shewould call that out and I even
had private lessons sometimesthat like the whole, the whole
conflict of it was that I lovedsinging and I wanted to sing so
badly but like every time I gotin front of someone I just
couldn't and I I just got like Ifroze.
So, um yeah, even like privatelessons, I would just I would
(04:14):
kind of barely sing and she'slike you got to sing Um, so yeah
.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So what got you through that Cause?
That's an interesting thing.
I mean, that's anxiety,whatever you want to call it,
and you know how did you getpast that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, so I kind of never thought I would actually
do music.
It was always something I heldvery close to my heart, and so I
remember it was the pandemicthat I had.
Even my friends didn't get tohear me sing.
My mom was.
My parents have always beensuper supportive about my music
and they and your mom's here inthe studio.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So, hi, stephanie, she does not want us to bring
her up at all.
She's like don't bring my nameup, don't talk to me now, but
that's, that's so.
They were very encouraging.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
They've wanted me to do this and I was kind of
pushing back.
But I remember it was thepandemic and we were watching
Miss Americana, which is TaylorSwift documentary.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I, oh yes, Of course I do love Taylor Swift.
Yes, yes and.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I just kind of like I was like crying and I was like,
oh my gosh, this is what I wantto do.
Wow, Like this whole time I'vebeen pushing it off and just I
don't know.
That was kind of like mybreaking point with that, and I
had been writing songs throughthe pandemic also, Like everyone
was been writing songs throughthe pandemic also, like everyone
is just very bored, or haddifferent ways of dealing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That could have been too.
When I saw some of your stuff.
I don't know, but at one pointI remember you, you, you showed
up in a feed of mine it's funnyhow social media works and you
showed up in a feed and I and Isaw you and and at that point I
didn't even know you were local.
So it was kind of one of thosethings where I I saw you and I'm
watching, I'm like oh, oh, thisgirl's pretty good, you know,
whatever.
And just it didn't even reallyhit me until later on when I
started seeing more of of yourstuff, because Instagram I think
(05:49):
we became friends on there orsomething like that, but it's
but it's interesting how itworks.
But what Taylor Swift watchingthat, that show or the
documentary got you?
So maybe upset not upset likealmost like frustrated with
yourself maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, it's one of those things where you just you,
you kind of see a lot of peoplelike, just you know, see
somebody doing something andthey're like, oh, I can do that
or I want to do that.
But like for me, it just it'salways been something I've
wanted to do.
I've just been very scared aboutit because it it means so much
and I think I was always reallyconcerned about how I would be
perceived or peoplemisunderstanding like who I am
(06:23):
and what I'm saying, but through, through writing, just in my
bedroom and not having to showanyone, and then I finally sent
it to my mom and my friends andstuff.
That really, that really I wasjust like I love doing this and
after like connecting those twothings.
And seeing somebody that wasfrom Reading and did this and
got out and is telling thesestories, uh, it was just.
It was so inspiring.
(06:43):
I went to my mom, was like Ineed to do this, and that kind
of just changed the trajectoryof like yeah, that's awesome,
that's very cool.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, it's.
It's amazing how it will.
And also, once you I call itbit by the bug.
My dad used to call it thecurse, which which is not as
good of the thing, but it was ina nice way.
He would say, oh, you got thecurse for that, but no, but it's
, you get bit by that bug andit's.
It's something.
That what's why I do this.
Yeah, Entertainment gets inyour blood and you can't.
You can't get it out, and ifyou try to hide it or you push
(07:13):
it under your inside yourself,there's something missing and
you'll feel that there'ssomething missing.
So it's, it's a good thing thatyou're doing it and it's a good
thing you're getting it outthere.
Um, it says at 16.
Then is when you worked up thenerve to go to an open mic.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah so you must've been so nervous for that open
mic it was literally so bad andI love my mom so much because
she has to deal with me like prepre-show vibes and is it still
like this?
I've gotten much better.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Cause you're, you're, you're very good on this right
now.
I mean, a lot of people getvery right, Hugo.
A lot of people get reallynervous when they're on the
podcast.
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
No, I I'm definitely a yapper, but when it comes to
singing it's a different story.
But yeah, I, I did actingclasses, I did some improv to
try to help, Cause I I had it inmy head that I wanted to be an
actress before the whole singingthing.
And yeah, I don't know who Imade a deal with, but I was like
, okay, we got to go to the openmic.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Noah Gibney hosted and I went and I loved it and
then I hated it and I was likeI'm never going back.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You loved it the same night.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You loved it and you hated it.
I do Cause like, as time passed, I was like you know that was
great, you know, you know thatwas great, you know you work up
the nerve, the nerve.
You're like thinking of all thethings that could go wrong and
you do it and you're like, okay,that wasn't so bad.
But then you have some distanceand you're like I don't think I
can do that again.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Wow, yeah, wow.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So it was definitely like pulling teeth for the first
few times and I am again reallygrateful for my parents and for
my friends for like and justbelieving in me to like keep
going, because I really didn'tthink anybody really cared what.
I had to say.
So, yeah, I went to the openmic and I still, years after
(08:56):
that, had trouble with stagefright.
But I remember there was asongwriting competition that I
became a finalist in.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh cool.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And after that I was just really inspired by everyone
there and like theirperformance and stuff and I was
like I'm going to do 60 shows tolike to just get good and get
over this for real.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And the more you do it, the more the more.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I had no excuse of like, ah, like it was set in
stone and you're going and youknow it'll get better, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It's better to commit ahead, because then you're
doing it.
Yeah, and I told everyone, so Icouldn't back out.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I told my voice teacher.
She put it in a calendar, sotold everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's so funny, that's good and that's what you got to
do.
If you, if you point that thingout and say, okay, this is what
I'm going to do, you're then onInstagram and it seems like
you're doing very well.
Live, yeah, and I know a lot oftimes when I used to sing a lot
when I was younger, one of thethings that would be weird
(09:51):
before I went on, I wouldsometimes get the little jitters
, which actually is very goodfor you.
Yes, there's nothing wrong withbeing nervous.
There's nothing wrong withanxiety.
It's something you need to justtake on and go okay, this is it
, this is okay.
And then but I used to Iremember like I would sing like
maybe like two lines of a songand it's all gone, and then, all
of a sudden, you're in thatplace.
That makes you feel so good,that makes you that you realize
(10:14):
this is where you belong.
This is exactly where I belongat this moment is on stage,
singing to these people, and Ialways say that one of the
things with singing that's it'sso unique that's a lot of
different things, though, too,is what's in my heart while I'm
singing a song.
My whole goal is to make themfeel what I'm feeling in my
heart.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And if I can get that across with performing, then I
did what I was supposed to do.
You know and you probably feelthat you understand that it is
really rewarding in that way andlike people coming up and
saying you know they were movedby it.
It's been very cool, that's andthat's amazing.
From one human to another, it'sreally pretty amazing.
It's awesome.
So, um, let's talk about moreabout this.
(10:54):
Miss Paranoia, this, this, uhEP that you released, and and
and how this came about.
You were, you did.
Is that what you did in LA?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You were doing that there, yeah, so crazy, crazy
circumstance where it it caught,I kind of, I don't know, like
it was a fever dream, but it allstarted with a plane ride with
my dad.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
He was very afraid of flying and he was just talking
the ear off of this guy next tohim like as they were taking off
, and of course he talks abouthis kids a lot.
Yeah, sure, and um, he, he wastalking about me and my music.
And at this point again, I wasnot out there with my music and
stuff, but I had stuff that Ihad written and he played and he
later then found out he was anA&R representative.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh, get out of here.
Yeah, so they kept in touch.
Good guy to talk to, reallygood guy to talk to.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So then he sent him my stuff and like I was just
kind of like here, like if youlike this, you know, there you
go, and that sparked just kindof the beginning of my recording
journey.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And how long ago was that?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
That was, oh my gosh.
Stuff started happening, Ithink like four years ago now
Wow, yeah, so you, so you,you've been doing this for a
little bit.
I have yeah, it's cool.
Again, it's been a journey withme and and being out there and
being an artist, um, but yeah,it started with zoom sessions
and then I went out to LA inNovember of 2022.
(12:19):
And I did go with my mom, whichwas super fun girls trip.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's cool.
That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
It was amazing and we had five days and each day we
from scratch, except for grocerylist.
Grocery list had a demo, but wewrote and recorded all the
songs on the EP.
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
In five days?
In five days?
In five days that's a lot ofwork.
In five days, let me guess,were there some really late
nights.
I don't know if it was thatlate or long days.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
They were long days, but it was the most fun I've
ever had.
It was raining in LA, though,for some reason.
Which doesn't happen often itdoesn't but it really did set
the tone for like some of themore ballady songs.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But yeah, I just, I am gluten free, which I always
have to mention.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You're gluten free.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
There is a donut shop .
Is this a plug for gluten free?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, I'm just spreading awareness.
Is your?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
music.
Gluten free is the question.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, see, we don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I feel like no.
No, why, we don't know.
I feel like no.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Why Is it doughy?
I think so it has a littletaste A lot of wheat, a little
wheat tasting it has a littlemore.
Yeah, it has a little moreallergic reaction in it A little
more allergic reaction.
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So anyway, but there was this like donut shop and I
just ate donuts and wrote songsall day and it was the best time
Wait gluten-free donuts.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yes free donuts.
Yes, I had to mention that.
I'm sorry.
That's okay, it's all right.
I mean half of the world.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I think is gluten free by now Spreading awareness.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, yes, it's incredible.
Well, that's good that you'vefigured that out, though it's
good yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But it was.
It was incredible time and Iwrote the songs, like I said,
almost three years ago now.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So to finally have them now is just that's the
thing about some of that stuffit takes forever to get it out
and it's so like you just wantit to be out and you're like,
and you have in your head andyou're like well, they sound.
I listened to.
I can tell you what I listenedto lifeline, which is the one
that just came out recently, isthat correct.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That was the recent single.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I listened to grocery list.
I liked that.
I thought the lyrics werereally clever.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I liked that.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Um boy on the moon, really cool, like it's a little
bit more upbeat and has like anice, nice beat to it, and I
think there was another one Ilistened to also.
Would it have been, missParanoid?
Because you said that'sactually a song too, or no?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
That's yeah, that's the title tracks.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I don't know if I listened to that
one or not, but the other onesI did.
I really liked them.
They diverse, each one's alittle different, but I like the
production too.
The production's very good.
Whoever was doing that, is itPhilip somebody?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Phil Simmons.
He's incredible yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
He's, he's good.
I can tell by the, by the theproduction is very, very nice.
You're, you're fortunate tohave somebody like that.
Yeah, absolutely All right.
So let's go into um, so you dothese songs in LA.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Now you're, you've done those a while ago.
Yeah, you LA.
Yeah, now you're.
You've done those a while ago.
Yeah, you're finally releasingthem now.
How, how do we get music outtoday?
You know, years ago obviously,it was actually tougher years
ago when I was doing this,because we didn't have social
media.
We didn't have any of thatstuff.
So is it up, is it up to theartist to make sure that they're
keep pushing it on social media?
Is there companies that arehelping you?
(15:15):
Is the AR guy helping you?
Like, how does that work?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, so to release any music, is my understanding
you have to have a distributor.
A lot, of people use DistroKidor there's like there's
companies that distribute music.
Meaning just getting them onall platforms and making sure
everything's right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And I'm not the genius with that stuff, that's
OK.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, and then my job as an artist is to just promote
and to keep writing and to kindof the back end of things with
there's like lyrics, syncing andthe album cover art and just
kind of all the little finaltouches on everything that you
wouldn't really think of.
(15:56):
Yeah, there's like pitchopportunities that you have to
write and describe.
And there's like different appsfor claiming profiles and
Spotify artists that you have tomake sure are in order, and
lots of banners and promotions.
It's a lot to learn, but, um, Ithink it's really cool that you
get to be able to do ityourself and learn the process
(16:17):
of it, so like if one daysomebody else is doing it for
you, you have a littleappreciation.
It's not funny.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We just went through that on a podcast recently.
We talked about that.
Actually, it hasn't it hasn'tbeen out yet, but it was a
podcast we recorded and wetalked about how important it is
in any business to know how todo pretty much everything within
your business, because you'rebusy doing what you need to do
(16:44):
as an artist or as a realtor, asa restaurant or whoever it is.
If you need to delegate that,you now know the value of it and
you know when somebody is doingit right or they're doing it
wrong.
And I we have done that on thepodcast here.
We we found a Hugo and I found acompany that does my, my reels
and my and my clips and myshorts and all that stuff that
(17:05):
you know.
We were paying for that andit's okay that we were, and I'm
still paying for it, but I'mdoing it myself and it's a lot
less expensive and it's they'redoing a good job.
I mean it works really well.
It's called Opus Plus.
Actually it was opuscom oropuspluscom.
It's a really good website.
So if you ever need to do longvideos to short videos, really
good company, thank you.
But yeah, so it is important.
(17:27):
Yeah, because otherwise youdon't know what the value is of
those things that you're nowdelegating.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, so that's good stuff, really good stuff.
So what do you see on thehorizon here in the near future?
Oh, by the way, you're going toBerkeley, aren't you?
I am going to Berkeley, youknow, that's an amazing school.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
It is very it's, it's a blast.
It's really cool yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I'm really grateful too.
Good friend of mine, local guywho, um, who actually went to
school there.
Um, his name is Dave Robido.
I can name drop him.
He is the head writer for NFLfilms, like, he writes all of
the stuff that you hear in thebackground for NFL films.
That's incredible.
He's went.
He went to Berkeley and hiswife did too, yeah, and his wife
(18:09):
.
He met his wife there andBerkeley, yeah.
So I know it's a very goodschool.
I know that you can.
You can get a lot from thatschool and having that on your
resume is is huge.
Yeah, are you meeting a lot ofcool people there?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I've met.
Every person I've met has beenso cool from like such different
backgrounds, but also like Ihad gone to a summer camp before
I actually attended the school.
And as soon as I got there andI do love living here, but like
as soon as I got there I waslike there's so many creative
people like you guys get me.
And it was just like adifferent experience I've never
(18:41):
had before and everyone was kindof just, we just I don't know,
we just clicked and so yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Musicians when they find each other.
It is kind of interestingbecause it's interesting,
because, like you said, they getyou, they understand, and also
just that creative being around,that creative energy, is
amazing, did you also?
I know Dave told me this, and Ihad another friend that was
there, and he never finished,but he was there for a little
bit and he said.
(19:08):
The realization, though, thatyou think you're good and then,
all of a sudden, you go toBerkeley and you're like, okay,
wow, there's a lot of reallygood people there are, yeah, so
did you get that realization?
I mean, you're very good?
No, and that thing is too isthe thing that you have to
realize, though I think somepeople get discouraged by that.
Yes, well, you have to realizethat you're good in your own
(19:29):
unique way.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Nobody can ever be Maggie I mean nobody can ever be
you.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, nobody can ever be Taylor Swift.
Nobody can ever be Hugo, thankgoodness, oh, my goodness, no,
but nobody can ever be any ofthose people.
But they're talented.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, I have always said that and a lot of
times.
You know people will say thatto me and they're like I could
never go there because it's.
It's just like there's too manygood people and.
I would be like having impostersyndrome every day and my take
on that I had a very hard, hardmindset of like there is room
for everyone.
And as soon as I got there,instead of like being like oh, I
(20:03):
wish I could do that.
Whatever, I was just soinspired by everyone.
I was like okay, teach me likeyeah, we're like I could never
do that.
There was always every singlenight.
I mean, there was supposed tobe quiet hours oh yeah there was
at 11.
It was supposed to be quiet.
I was.
It was never a thing there solike you're talking about
musicians, no, never.
It's 12 am.
Like you can hear musicdrifting from the lounge that's
cool and it's like uptown funk,like a five-part harmony.
(20:26):
Didn't even know that existed.
Unbelievable.
You walk down for 10 minutes.
There's like a mandolin, aviolin, like a 10-piece band
happening and just people thatlike have never really played
together before, just on a whim,just playing something
beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And that's musicians, that's talent, that's musicians
.
And you're in a school that Imean.
Obviously it's not easy to it's.
It's one of the top ones formusic.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I did feel like Hogwarts.
It was really, it was reallyspecial.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I actually get that just so you know, yeah, but no,
it's, it's interesting becauseit is.
It's, it's a very elite schoolfor musicians and it's uh, I
know pretty much a lot of thepeople come out of there are
people that have made it verymuch so in music.
Yeah, um, you know, I know,actually all the guys from toto
were from there.
The song africa, if you're youknow, if you know the song.
It's a great song, yeah they allcame from there, from what I
(21:14):
remember.
Um, yeah, there's a lot of bigmusicians.
A lot of studio musicians havecome from berkeley too, which is
interesting, yeah, uh, but no,that's awesome.
I'm glad you're there.
So too, you know you talk.
We were talking about a littlebit about Berkeley, how there's
so many talented people there.
It is interesting how out in LA,when I went to LA, when I was
on Star Search, yeah, and one ofthe things that blew my mind as
(21:35):
a musician is there.
I was going on Star Search andyou know I had just done the
show, recorded the first show,and I had beat the guy that.
And he comes out and he sits atthe piano to start singing and
we're all singing.
Now Everybody was on StarSearch as they're singing and
kind of, you know, hanging outaround this piano, and it was
just a great moment and I was 19and it was neat.
(21:57):
But what was really amazing iswe're all there, we were just on
this show, that's, you know, ashow that you audition for
whatever, and the doorman fromthe hotel comes over and starts
singing.
Blew us all away, like we wereall amateurs compared to this
guy, like he was just incredibleand we all sat there and just
looked at him like what, whatare you doing here?
(22:17):
What are you doing at the?
But that's LA.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Everybody's trying to make it, they're all.
And there's so many people thatare so talented, that are
picking up your luggage, thatare there, that are making you
your dinners, that are, you know, but they're.
They're doing that because theygot to make a dollar, you know.
So it's just that's the samekind of thing where you think
you're good and then all of asudden the doorman comes in and
starts singing and you're like,all right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I'm not that good.
It's kind of wild.
No it is it's crazy, but it's,it's just been, it's been very
crazy, but very cool.
Very grateful.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Very good, and you're in your second year coming up,
is that right?
I will be in my second year.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I hope I've learned my lessons with music theory and
I can come back with you know,that's the hard stuff, that's
the hard very mathy.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yes, it is.
But, you have to know the rulesof who.
You can break the rules.
Did you ever hear that withmusic, they?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
always say that.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's a music thing.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
One teacher too.
He's just like.
He's like these are justsuggestions, like it's a theory
for a reason, but like you guyshave to know it and understand
it to appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
And so I'm like they're exactly right,
absolutely Right, so awesome.
So I heard you brought yourguitar.
I did.
Okay, would that you justreleased?
That'd be awesome cool.
I know you have one handy hereand hopefully we can hear it.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
We'll uh yeah, let's make sure this is cool first
time.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
This is the first time we've never done anything
like this in the studio.
Make sure it's tuned andeverything yeah, we don't want
to have a tune, a not tunedguitar, right the heat, too,
really gets them oh yeah, andhow long you've been playing
guitar that's another thing.
I taught myself how to playguitar because of stage fright
and needed something to kind ofanchor me, and also I wanted to
(23:54):
write songs, that's hilarious,and most people will go to piano
because it's a lot easier toplay piano than it is to play
guitar, as far as I'm concerned,because that's how I used to
write.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I don't know exactly what inspired me, but my mom has
said many times she's like yougot to stop hiding behind the
guitar now, like it's been longenough but she's doing good, mom
.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean, this is she's doing a great job.
Yeah, no, I love the terms.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Okay.
Well, I'll quickly tell thestory of this.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, tell the story.
This is fun.
I feel like a spectator now.
This is great.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I have a lot of stories for all of these songs.
They came about in veryinteresting ways.
My process is kind of like I'llhave a conversation with
somebody or it'll just I'll beinspired by other people like a
lot.
So, or movies or books, I reada lot, but this one Lifeline is
a little.
It's a little slower and itstarted on one of the rainy
(24:49):
nights in LA and we were justtalking, speaking of
musicianship and stuff.
We were talking about thatfeeling when, like, it just
feels kind of hopeless andeveryone else is so good.
And how do you cut through thatand just living as a musician
with all the different jobs andtrying to make a living.
Um, so that's how it started,and last year was my senior year
and I was playing around atgigs and everyone did have an
(25:12):
opinion on where I should go andwhat I should do with my life.
And me and my friends were kindof just all in the same boat
with that.
So as I was singing it it kindof became about that and trying
to find the silver lining andalso realizing that you know
everything is about to change.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
So yeah, this is Lifeline.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
When all was said and done, I lost a part of me,
cause I was chasing dreams likethey're reality.
I wish somebody told me that itwas only the start of this
fantasy.
Why did nobody tell me thateverybody would tell me who I'm
meant to be?
I've got no time to cry, I'llbe all right.
(26:14):
I've been wanting this for allmy life.
I'll know the time to saygoodbye, but I'll just sit here
waiting for a lifeline.
(26:35):
Even though my friends playnice, I know they're doubting me
(26:57):
.
Their words don't mean enoughto give me dopamine.
I wish somebody told me that itwas only the start of this
fantasy.
Why did nobody tell me thateverybody would tell me who I'm
(27:17):
meant to be?
I've got no time to cry, I'llbe alright.
I've been wanting this for allmy life.
I know the time to say goodbye,but I'll just sit here waiting
(27:44):
for a lifeline, for a lifeline.
I'm just waiting for a lifeline.
(28:08):
I'm just waiting for a lifeline.
I'm just waiting for a lifeline.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Wow, very nice.
Seriously, you have a reallynice voice.
Thank you Very.
Actually.
It's interesting because Iactually think from listening to
your studio stuff and this isthe way it is sometimes, but I
think there's things in yourvoice that maybe are not even
getting picked up in the studiostuff.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Because you've got some inflections and things in
there that are really reallycool.
Thank, you.
Yeah, it's very cool and younotice how these mics you know a
lot of people are using thesemicrophones.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Now, I actually have this mic.
Is this the one you have?
Yeah, isn't it a greatmicrophone?
Yeah, it is, when you're asinger like you, just love
microphones.
Yes, yeah, I love this one.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, it's good, but no, it sounds very very nice,
thank you.
Good song, good song, yeah, andthe one thing that that as a
vocal.
But my, my daughter, is singingnow too.
She's 13 and she's got a reallygood voice.
She's dealing with the wholestage fright of of doing that
(29:15):
too.
She's not quite sure she would.
You know, she's doing theaterand stuff like that, but it's a
little different and she'll lovethe show.
She's going to love the show,but yes, but it's one of the
things I always say is that youjust have to be careful that
when you have a vocal person,make sure it's a vocal coach and
less less of than a.
You don't want more vocalteaching.
You want coaching because youhave to be careful.
(29:36):
They'll try and change how youhit notes and how you do things.
Now you want to use yourdiaphragm cause you don't want
to use.
You don't want to lose what youhave, but yeah just be careful
with Mr Patricia she's a coach.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
She's literally like I don't, like that might just be
something that you do, that itmakes you you like we don't want
to touch it.
Don't touch it, like yes.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Like the little things at the end of your
phrases that you're doing alittle like like um, mine's a
little bit like a lot of smartset.
There's like a little bit of asomething at the end there that
that is cool, that's very cool,and it's not something that
everybody does.
Yeah, no, that's so cool, Iforget.
Like talking to a singer yeah,yeah, well, and I used to
produce females and other people.
(30:17):
Yeah, yes, I used to write andproduce for for a girl years ago
.
Yeah, absolutely so.
I just I get it.
So I feel like we're not evendoing a podcast anymore.
This is just fun, right, yeah,but no, thank you so much for
coming on.
I really really appreciate it.
Really really appreciate it.
Of course, this is just a greattime.
I want you to come back.
I'm going to follow your career.
Yeah, we'd love to have youback when you're doing your
music or anything that'schanging with your career.
Just let us know.
Yeah, perfect.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Thank you so much for having me All right.
So maggiemarrcom, yeah, MaggieMarr, m-a-r-r-e.
And yeah, I go stream MissParanoia.
I hope you like it.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Awesome, it's great, it's really good stuff, so
definitely want to listen tothat.
All right, man, that wasamazing there.
You have local songwriter here,but I'll tell you what I don't
think she's gonna be local forvery long.
Maggie Marr Miss Paranoia.
Maggie Marrcom, m-a-r-r-e dotcom.
All right, that's about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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Oh man, this is going to be areally cool show.
Different show.
We've never done ever whatwe're going to do tonight, so
I'm really excited about it.
Hey, Hugo, what do you think ofmy shirt?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
Oh yes, don't say oh no.
I mean, come on, patriotic'sgood.
Now, this is probably one ofthe ugliest shirts that I have.
I think it's close to one ofthe ugliest shirts I have, so I
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I was cooking for the officetoday and I decided I need to
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It's very appropriate.
But you know, even though it'sstill summer and it still works,
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So that's what I'm going to gowith.
Damn it, All right.
So no, we have a show in storefor you tonight.
That is really, really cool.
It's something different.
You're going to hear some music.
You're going to hear fromsomebody local.
We're not always doing local asmuch anymore, but this is going
to be good.
Her name is Maggie Marr.
She just came out with an EPcalled Miss Paranoia.
I heard some of her stuff onFacebook and Instagram and
(01:26):
things like that, and I thoughtI got to have this girl in here.
So, yeah, so she's here andshe's going to probably play
guitar for us at some point.
Hi, Maggie.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You're very welcome.
I'm glad you could make it, ofcourse, yes, yes.
So this is just amazing becauseI know we know a lot of people
in common.
Now we figured out we know theMcFadden's Maggie and Molly and
Mark and Susan.
It's incredible and I thought,wow, how did I not know this
before through social media?
(01:55):
But you went to school withthem.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I did.
Yeah, I went to Catholic schoolwith them.
We all went to ImmaculateConception Academy.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, unbelievable, let's get into your music.
So you just came out with thisEP.
It was June 20th that it cameout, so it was not too long ago,
and it's called Miss Paranoia.
Tell me about this, because Iknow you went to LA to record
some of these things.
Tell me how you got into thisand where it's going right now.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, so I started, I guess, journey like when I was
super young, of course, butwriting and music have always
been very separate for me.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Also, I had the worst stage fright.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's the part that I couldn't understand.
I would not understand.
I get it, cause I thinkeverybody does have a little bit
of that, obviously, um, but Ithink you have to work through
it, especially if you want to bea musician, cause that wouldn't
work well singing in yourcloset, yeah, I mean, that
doesn't work so well, unlessyou're a studio musician, which
you could do, you know so you.
So you started young.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I did.
I kind of was in and out.
I think my parents um probablyheard me singing in my bedroom.
I used to put like a cover overmy head so nobody could hear
and they would never, ever hearme.
Um, but I think somehow I had alot of energy.
I had three brothers that werevery rambunctious and did sports
, so I think they're kind oftrying to push me towards
something peaceful, um, and whatyour parents were, I had a lot
(03:20):
of energy, so I guess I was justsinging and talking all the
time.
So, they put me in some lessons.
I would not sing, I would notopen my mouth.
My voice teacher, who I've hadthe same voice teacher for since
I was like a toddler, I guessher name is Patricia Keith.
She's amazing, but she reallyhelped me this whole journey and
(03:40):
stuff.
But I would not even sing infront of her.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So.
So if you can't sing or youcan't open your mouth, I'm not
sure how you were you humming, Idon't know.
I'm trying to figure out howyou were singing.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I was like fake singing, but like you know,
singing teachers can tell you'renot singing from your diaphragm
.
Absolutely and she would, shewould call that out and I even
had private lessons sometimesthat like the whole, the whole
conflict of it was that I lovedsinging and I wanted to sing so
badly but like every time I gotin front of someone I just
couldn't and I I just got like Ifroze.
So, um yeah, even like privatelessons, I would just I would
(04:14):
kind of barely sing and she'slike you got to sing Um, so yeah
.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So what got you through that Cause?
That's an interesting thing.
I mean, that's anxiety,whatever you want to call it,
and you know how did you getpast that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, so I kind of never thought I would actually
do music.
It was always something I heldvery close to my heart, and so I
remember it was the pandemicthat I had.
Even my friends didn't get tohear me sing.
My mom was.
My parents have always beensuper supportive about my music
and they and your mom's here inthe studio.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So, hi, stephanie, she does not want us to bring
her up at all.
She's like don't bring my nameup, don't talk to me now, but
that's, that's so.
They were very encouraging.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
They've wanted me to do this and I was kind of
pushing back.
But I remember it was thepandemic and we were watching
Miss Americana, which is TaylorSwift documentary.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I, oh yes, Of course I do love Taylor Swift.
Yes, yes and.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I just kind of like I was like crying and I was like,
oh my gosh, this is what I wantto do.
Wow, Like this whole time I'vebeen pushing it off and just I
don't know.
That was kind of like mybreaking point with that, and I
had been writing songs throughthe pandemic also, Like everyone
was been writing songs throughthe pandemic also, like everyone
is just very bored, or haddifferent ways of dealing.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
That could have been too.
When I saw some of your stuff.
I don't know, but at one pointI remember you, you, you showed
up in a feed of mine it's funnyhow social media works and you
showed up in a feed and I and Isaw you and and at that point I
didn't even know you were local.
So it was kind of one of thosethings where I I saw you and I'm
watching, I'm like oh, oh, thisgirl's pretty good, you know,
whatever.
And just it didn't even reallyhit me until later on when I
started seeing more of of yourstuff, because Instagram I think
(05:49):
we became friends on there orsomething like that, but it's
but it's interesting how itworks.
But what Taylor Swift watchingthat, that show or the
documentary got you?
So maybe upset not upset likealmost like frustrated with
yourself maybe.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, it's one of those things where you just you,
you kind of see a lot of peoplelike, just you know, see
somebody doing something andthey're like, oh, I can do that
or I want to do that.
But like for me, it just it'salways been something I've
wanted to do.
I've just been very scared aboutit because it it means so much
and I think I was always reallyconcerned about how I would be
perceived or peoplemisunderstanding like who I am
(06:23):
and what I'm saying, but through, through writing, just in my
bedroom and not having to showanyone, and then I finally sent
it to my mom and my friends andstuff.
That really, that really I wasjust like I love doing this and
after like connecting those twothings.
And seeing somebody that wasfrom Reading and did this and
got out and is telling thesestories, uh, it was just.
It was so inspiring.
(06:43):
I went to my mom, was like Ineed to do this, and that kind
of just changed the trajectoryof like yeah, that's awesome,
that's very cool.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, it's.
It's amazing how it will.
And also, once you I call itbit by the bug.
My dad used to call it thecurse, which which is not as
good of the thing, but it was ina nice way.
He would say, oh, you got thecurse for that, but no, but it's
, you get bit by that bug andit's.
It's something.
That what's why I do this.
Yeah, Entertainment gets inyour blood and you can't.
You can't get it out, and ifyou try to hide it or you push
(07:13):
it under your inside yourself,there's something missing and
you'll feel that there'ssomething missing.
So it's, it's a good thing thatyou're doing it and it's a good
thing you're getting it outthere.
Um, it says at 16.
Then is when you worked up thenerve to go to an open mic.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah so you must've been so nervous for that open
mic it was literally so bad andI love my mom so much because
she has to deal with me like prepre-show vibes and is it still
like this?
I've gotten much better.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Cause you're, you're, you're very good on this right
now.
I mean, a lot of people getvery right, Hugo.
A lot of people get reallynervous when they're on the
podcast.
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
No, I I'm definitely a yapper, but when it comes to
singing it's a different story.
But yeah, I, I did actingclasses, I did some improv to
try to help, Cause I I had it inmy head that I wanted to be an
actress before the whole singingthing.
And yeah, I don't know who Imade a deal with, but I was like
, okay, we got to go to the openmic.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Noah Gibney hosted and I went and I loved it and
then I hated it and I was likeI'm never going back.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You loved it the same night.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You loved it and you hated it.
I do Cause like, as time passed, I was like you know that was
great, you know, you know thatwas great, you know you work up
the nerve, the nerve.
You're like thinking of all thethings that could go wrong and
you do it and you're like, okay,that wasn't so bad.
But then you have some distanceand you're like I don't think I
can do that again.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Wow, yeah, wow.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So it was definitely like pulling teeth for the first
few times and I am again reallygrateful for my parents and for
my friends for like and justbelieving in me to like keep
going, because I really didn'tthink anybody really cared what.
I had to say.
So, yeah, I went to the openmic and I still, years after
(08:56):
that, had trouble with stagefright.
But I remember there was asongwriting competition that I
became a finalist in.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh cool.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And after that I was just really inspired by everyone
there and like theirperformance and stuff and I was
like I'm going to do 60 shows tolike to just get good and get
over this for real.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
And the more you do it, the more the more.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I had no excuse of like, ah, like it was set in
stone and you're going and youknow it'll get better, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
It's better to commit ahead, because then you're
doing it.
Yeah, and I told everyone, so Icouldn't back out.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I told my voice teacher.
She put it in a calendar, sotold everybody.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
It's so funny, that's good and that's what you got to
do.
If you, if you point that thingout and say, okay, this is what
I'm going to do, you're then onInstagram and it seems like
you're doing very well.
Live, yeah, and I know a lot oftimes when I used to sing a lot
when I was younger, one of thethings that would be weird
(09:51):
before I went on, I wouldsometimes get the little jitters
, which actually is very goodfor you.
Yes, there's nothing wrong withbeing nervous.
There's nothing wrong withanxiety.
It's something you need to justtake on and go okay, this is it
, this is okay.
And then but I used to Iremember like I would sing like
maybe like two lines of a songand it's all gone, and then, all
of a sudden, you're in thatplace.
That makes you feel so good,that makes you that you realize
(10:14):
this is where you belong.
This is exactly where I belongat this moment is on stage,
singing to these people, and Ialways say that one of the
things with singing that's it'sso unique that's a lot of
different things, though, too,is what's in my heart while I'm
singing a song.
My whole goal is to make themfeel what I'm feeling in my
heart.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And if I can get that across with performing, then I
did what I was supposed to do.
You know and you probably feelthat you understand that it is
really rewarding in that way andlike people coming up and
saying you know they were movedby it.
It's been very cool, that's andthat's amazing.
From one human to another, it'sreally pretty amazing.
It's awesome.
So, um, let's talk about moreabout this.
(10:54):
Miss Paranoia, this, this, uhEP that you released, and and
and how this came about.
You were, you did.
Is that what you did in LA?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You were doing that there, yeah, so crazy, crazy
circumstance where it it caught,I kind of, I don't know, like
it was a fever dream, but it allstarted with a plane ride with
my dad.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
He was very afraid of flying and he was just talking
the ear off of this guy next tohim like as they were taking off
, and of course he talks abouthis kids a lot.
Yeah, sure, and um, he, he wastalking about me and my music.
And at this point again, I wasnot out there with my music and
stuff, but I had stuff that Ihad written and he played and he
later then found out he was anA&R representative.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Oh, get out of here.
Yeah, so they kept in touch.
Good guy to talk to, reallygood guy to talk to.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So then he sent him my stuff and like I was just
kind of like here, like if youlike this, you know, there you
go, and that sparked just kindof the beginning of my recording
journey.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And how long ago was that?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
That was, oh my gosh.
Stuff started happening, Ithink like four years ago now
Wow, yeah, so you, so you,you've been doing this for a
little bit.
I have yeah, it's cool.
Again, it's been a journey withme and and being out there and
being an artist, um, but yeah,it started with zoom sessions
and then I went out to LA inNovember of 2022.
(12:19):
And I did go with my mom, whichwas super fun girls trip.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's cool.
That's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
It was amazing and we had five days and each day we
from scratch, except for grocerylist.
Grocery list had a demo, but wewrote and recorded all the
songs on the EP.
Wow.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
In five days?
In five days?
In five days that's a lot ofwork.
In five days, let me guess,were there some really late
nights.
I don't know if it was thatlate or long days.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
They were long days, but it was the most fun I've
ever had.
It was raining in LA, though,for some reason.
Which doesn't happen often itdoesn't but it really did set
the tone for like some of themore ballady songs.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
But yeah, I just, I am gluten free, which I always
have to mention.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
You're gluten free.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
There is a donut shop .
Is this a plug for gluten free?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, I'm just spreading awareness.
Is your?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
music.
Gluten free is the question.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, see, we don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I feel like no.
No, why, we don't know.
I feel like no.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Why Is it doughy?
I think so it has a littletaste A lot of wheat, a little
wheat tasting it has a littlemore.
Yeah, it has a little moreallergic reaction in it A little
more allergic reaction.
Yes.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So anyway, but there was this like donut shop and I
just ate donuts and wrote songsall day and it was the best time
Wait gluten-free donuts.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yes free donuts.
Yes, I had to mention that.
I'm sorry.
That's okay, it's all right.
I mean half of the world.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
I think is gluten free by now Spreading awareness.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, yes, it's incredible.
Well, that's good that you'vefigured that out, though it's
good yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But it was.
It was incredible time and Iwrote the songs, like I said,
almost three years ago now.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So to finally have them now is just that's the
thing about some of that stuffit takes forever to get it out
and it's so like you just wantit to be out and you're like,
and you have in your head andyou're like well, they sound.
I listened to.
I can tell you what I listenedto lifeline, which is the one
that just came out recently, isthat correct.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That was the recent single.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I listened to grocery list.
I liked that.
I thought the lyrics werereally clever.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I liked that.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Um boy on the moon, really cool, like it's a little
bit more upbeat and has like anice, nice beat to it, and I
think there was another one Ilistened to also.
Would it have been, missParanoid?
Because you said that'sactually a song too, or no?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
That's yeah, that's the title tracks.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I don't know if I listened to that
one or not, but the other onesI did.
I really liked them.
They diverse, each one's alittle different, but I like the
production too.
The production's very good.
Whoever was doing that, is itPhilip somebody?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Phil Simmons.
He's incredible yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
He's, he's good.
I can tell by the, by the theproduction is very, very nice.
You're, you're fortunate tohave somebody like that.
Yeah, absolutely All right.
So let's go into um, so you dothese songs in LA.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Now you're, you've done those a while ago.
Yeah, you LA.
Yeah, now you're.
You've done those a while ago.
Yeah, you're finally releasingthem now.
How, how do we get music outtoday?
You know, years ago obviously,it was actually tougher years
ago when I was doing this,because we didn't have social
media.
We didn't have any of thatstuff.
So is it up, is it up to theartist to make sure that they're
keep pushing it on social media?
Is there companies that arehelping you?
(15:15):
Is the AR guy helping you?
Like, how does that work?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, so to release any music, is my understanding
you have to have a distributor.
A lot, of people use DistroKidor there's like there's
companies that distribute music.
Meaning just getting them onall platforms and making sure
everything's right.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And I'm not the genius with that stuff, that's
OK.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, and then my job as an artist is to just promote
and to keep writing and to kindof the back end of things with
there's like lyrics, syncing andthe album cover art and just
kind of all the little finaltouches on everything that you
wouldn't really think of.
(15:56):
Yeah, there's like pitchopportunities that you have to
write and describe.
And there's like different appsfor claiming profiles and
Spotify artists that you have tomake sure are in order, and
lots of banners and promotions.
It's a lot to learn, but, um, Ithink it's really cool that you
get to be able to do ityourself and learn the process
(16:17):
of it, so like if one daysomebody else is doing it for
you, you have a littleappreciation.
It's not funny.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
We just went through that on a podcast recently.
We talked about that.
Actually, it hasn't it hasn'tbeen out yet, but it was a
podcast we recorded and wetalked about how important it is
in any business to know how todo pretty much everything within
your business, because you'rebusy doing what you need to do
(16:44):
as an artist or as a realtor, asa restaurant or whoever it is.
If you need to delegate that,you now know the value of it and
you know when somebody is doingit right or they're doing it
wrong.
And I we have done that on thepodcast here.
We we found a Hugo and I found acompany that does my, my reels
and my and my clips and myshorts and all that stuff that
(17:05):
you know.
We were paying for that andit's okay that we were, and I'm
still paying for it, but I'mdoing it myself and it's a lot
less expensive and it's they'redoing a good job.
I mean it works really well.
It's called Opus Plus.
Actually it was opuscom oropuspluscom.
It's a really good website.
So if you ever need to do longvideos to short videos, really
good company, thank you.
But yeah, so it is important.
(17:27):
Yeah, because otherwise youdon't know what the value is of
those things that you're nowdelegating.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, so that's good stuff, really good stuff.
So what do you see on thehorizon here in the near future?
Oh, by the way, you're going toBerkeley, aren't you?
I am going to Berkeley, youknow, that's an amazing school.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
It is very it's, it's a blast.
It's really cool yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
I'm really grateful too.
Good friend of mine, local guywho, um, who actually went to
school there.
Um, his name is Dave Robido.
I can name drop him.
He is the head writer for NFLfilms, like, he writes all of
the stuff that you hear in thebackground for NFL films.
That's incredible.
He's went.
He went to Berkeley and hiswife did too, yeah, and his wife
(18:09):
.
He met his wife there andBerkeley, yeah.
So I know it's a very goodschool.
I know that you can.
You can get a lot from thatschool and having that on your
resume is is huge.
Yeah, are you meeting a lot ofcool people there?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I've met.
Every person I've met has beenso cool from like such different
backgrounds, but also like Ihad gone to a summer camp before
I actually attended the school.
And as soon as I got there andI do love living here, but like
as soon as I got there I waslike there's so many creative
people like you guys get me.
And it was just like adifferent experience I've never
(18:41):
had before and everyone was kindof just, we just I don't know,
we just clicked and so yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Musicians when they find each other.
It is kind of interestingbecause it's interesting,
because, like you said, they getyou, they understand, and also
just that creative being around,that creative energy, is
amazing, did you also?
I know Dave told me this, and Ihad another friend that was
there, and he never finished,but he was there for a little
bit and he said.
(19:08):
The realization, though, thatyou think you're good and then,
all of a sudden, you go toBerkeley and you're like, okay,
wow, there's a lot of reallygood people there are, yeah, so
did you get that realization?
I mean, you're very good?
No, and that thing is too isthe thing that you have to
realize, though I think somepeople get discouraged by that.
Yes, well, you have to realizethat you're good in your own
(19:29):
unique way.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Nobody can ever be Maggie I mean nobody can ever be
you.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Yeah, nobody can ever be Taylor Swift.
Nobody can ever be Hugo, thankgoodness, oh, my goodness, no,
but nobody can ever be any ofthose people.
But they're talented.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, I have always said that and a lot of
times.
You know people will say thatto me and they're like I could
never go there because it's.
It's just like there's too manygood people and.
I would be like having impostersyndrome every day and my take
on that I had a very hard, hardmindset of like there is room
for everyone.
And as soon as I got there,instead of like being like oh, I
(20:03):
wish I could do that.
Whatever, I was just soinspired by everyone.
I was like okay, teach me likeyeah, we're like I could never
do that.
There was always every singlenight.
I mean, there was supposed tobe quiet hours oh yeah there was
at 11.
It was supposed to be quiet.
I was.
It was never a thing there solike you're talking about
musicians, no, never.
It's 12 am.
Like you can hear musicdrifting from the lounge that's
cool and it's like uptown funk,like a five-part harmony.
(20:26):
Didn't even know that existed.
Unbelievable.
You walk down for 10 minutes.
There's like a mandolin, aviolin, like a 10-piece band
happening and just people thatlike have never really played
together before, just on a whim,just playing something
beautiful.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And that's musicians, that's talent, that's musicians
.
And you're in a school that Imean.
Obviously it's not easy to it's.
It's one of the top ones formusic.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I did feel like Hogwarts.
It was really, it was reallyspecial.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I actually get that just so you know, yeah, but no,
it's, it's interesting becauseit is.
It's, it's a very elite schoolfor musicians and it's uh, I
know pretty much a lot of thepeople come out of there are
people that have made it verymuch so in music.
Yeah, um, you know, I know,actually all the guys from toto
were from there.
The song africa, if you're youknow, if you know the song.
It's a great song, yeah they allcame from there, from what I
(21:14):
remember.
Um, yeah, there's a lot of bigmusicians.
A lot of studio musicians havecome from berkeley too, which is
interesting, yeah, uh, but no,that's awesome.
I'm glad you're there.
So too, you know you talk.
We were talking about a littlebit about Berkeley, how there's
so many talented people there.
It is interesting how out in LA,when I went to LA, when I was
on Star Search, yeah, and one ofthe things that blew my mind as
(21:35):
a musician is there.
I was going on Star Search andyou know I had just done the
show, recorded the first show,and I had beat the guy that.
And he comes out and he sits atthe piano to start singing and
we're all singing.
Now Everybody was on StarSearch as they're singing and
kind of, you know, hanging outaround this piano, and it was
just a great moment and I was 19and it was neat.
(21:57):
But what was really amazing iswe're all there, we were just on
this show, that's, you know, ashow that you audition for
whatever, and the doorman fromthe hotel comes over and starts
singing.
Blew us all away, like we wereall amateurs compared to this
guy, like he was just incredibleand we all sat there and just
looked at him like what, whatare you doing here?
(22:17):
What are you doing at the?
But that's LA.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Everybody's trying to make it, they're all.
And there's so many people thatare so talented, that are
picking up your luggage, thatare there, that are making you
your dinners, that are, you know, but they're.
They're doing that because theygot to make a dollar, you know.
So it's just that's the samekind of thing where you think
you're good and then all of asudden the doorman comes in and
starts singing and you're like,all right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I'm not that good.
It's kind of wild.
No it is it's crazy, but it's,it's just been, it's been very
crazy, but very cool.
Very grateful.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Very good, and you're in your second year coming up,
is that right?
I will be in my second year.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I hope I've learned my lessons with music theory and
I can come back with you know,that's the hard stuff, that's
the hard very mathy.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yes, it is.
But, you have to know the rulesof who.
You can break the rules.
Did you ever hear that withmusic, they?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
always say that.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
That's a music thing.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
One teacher too.
He's just like.
He's like these are justsuggestions, like it's a theory
for a reason, but like you guyshave to know it and understand
it to appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
And so I'm like they're exactly right,
absolutely Right, so awesome.
So I heard you brought yourguitar.
I did.
Okay, would that you justreleased?
That'd be awesome cool.
I know you have one handy hereand hopefully we can hear it.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
We'll uh yeah, let's make sure this is cool first
time.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
This is the first time we've never done anything
like this in the studio.
Make sure it's tuned andeverything yeah, we don't want
to have a tune, a not tunedguitar, right the heat, too,
really gets them oh yeah, andhow long you've been playing
guitar that's another thing.
I taught myself how to playguitar because of stage fright
and needed something to kind ofanchor me, and also I wanted to
(23:54):
write songs, that's hilarious,and most people will go to piano
because it's a lot easier toplay piano than it is to play
guitar, as far as I'm concerned,because that's how I used to
write.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I don't know exactly what inspired me, but my mom has
said many times she's like yougot to stop hiding behind the
guitar now, like it's been longenough but she's doing good, mom
.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I mean, this is she's doing a great job.
Yeah, no, I love the terms.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Okay.
Well, I'll quickly tell thestory of this.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, tell the story.
This is fun.
I feel like a spectator now.
This is great.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
I have a lot of stories for all of these songs.
They came about in veryinteresting ways.
My process is kind of like I'llhave a conversation with
somebody or it'll just I'll beinspired by other people like a
lot.
So, or movies or books, I reada lot, but this one Lifeline is
a little.
It's a little slower and itstarted on one of the rainy
(24:49):
nights in LA and we were justtalking, speaking of
musicianship and stuff.
We were talking about thatfeeling when, like, it just
feels kind of hopeless andeveryone else is so good.
And how do you cut through thatand just living as a musician
with all the different jobs andtrying to make a living.
Um, so that's how it started,and last year was my senior year
and I was playing around atgigs and everyone did have an
(25:12):
opinion on where I should go andwhat I should do with my life.
And me and my friends were kindof just all in the same boat
with that.
So as I was singing it it kindof became about that and trying
to find the silver lining andalso realizing that you know
everything is about to change.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
So yeah, this is Lifeline.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
When all was said and done, I lost a part of me,
cause I was chasing dreams likethey're reality.
I wish somebody told me that itwas only the start of this
fantasy.
Why did nobody tell me thateverybody would tell me who I'm
meant to be?
I've got no time to cry, I'llbe all right.
(26:14):
I've been wanting this for allmy life.
I'll know the time to saygoodbye, but I'll just sit here
waiting for a lifeline.
(26:35):
Even though my friends playnice, I know they're doubting me
(26:57):
.
Their words don't mean enoughto give me dopamine.
I wish somebody told me that itwas only the start of this
fantasy.
Why did nobody tell me thateverybody would tell me who I'm
(27:17):
meant to be?
I've got no time to cry, I'llbe alright.
I've been wanting this for allmy life.
I know the time to say goodbye,but I'll just sit here waiting
(27:44):
for a lifeline, for a lifeline.
I'm just waiting for a lifeline.
(28:08):
I'm just waiting for a lifeline.
I'm just waiting for a lifeline.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Wow, very nice.
Seriously, you have a reallynice voice.
Thank you Very.
Actually.
It's interesting because Iactually think from listening to
your studio stuff and this isthe way it is sometimes, but I
think there's things in yourvoice that maybe are not even
getting picked up in the studiostuff.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Because you've got some inflections and things in
there that are really reallycool.
Thank, you.
Yeah, it's very cool and younotice how these mics you know a
lot of people are using thesemicrophones.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Now, I actually have this mic.
Is this the one you have?
Yeah, isn't it a greatmicrophone?
Yeah, it is, when you're asinger like you, just love
microphones.
Yes, yeah, I love this one.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, it's good, but no, it sounds very very nice,
thank you.
Good song, good song, yeah, andthe one thing that that as a
vocal.
But my, my daughter, is singingnow too.
She's 13 and she's got a reallygood voice.
She's dealing with the wholestage fright of of doing that
(29:15):
too.
She's not quite sure she would.
You know, she's doing theaterand stuff like that, but it's a
little different and she'll lovethe show.
She's going to love the show,but yes, but it's one of the
things I always say is that youjust have to be careful that
when you have a vocal person,make sure it's a vocal coach and
less less of than a.
You don't want more vocalteaching.
You want coaching because youhave to be careful.
(29:36):
They'll try and change how youhit notes and how you do things.
Now you want to use yourdiaphragm cause you don't want
to use.
You don't want to lose what youhave, but yeah just be careful
with Mr Patricia she's a coach.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
She's literally like I don't, like that might just be
something that you do, that itmakes you you like we don't want
to touch it.
Don't touch it, like yes.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Like the little things at the end of your
phrases that you're doing alittle like like um, mine's a
little bit like a lot of smartset.
There's like a little bit of asomething at the end there that
that is cool, that's very cool,and it's not something that
everybody does.
Yeah, no, that's so cool, Iforget.
Like talking to a singer yeah,yeah, well, and I used to
produce females and other people.
(30:17):
Yeah, yes, I used to write andproduce for for a girl years ago
.
Yeah, absolutely so.
I just I get it.
So I feel like we're not evendoing a podcast anymore.
This is just fun, right, yeah,but no, thank you so much for
coming on.
I really really appreciate it.
Really really appreciate it.
Of course, this is just a greattime.
I want you to come back.
I'm going to follow your career.
Yeah, we'd love to have youback when you're doing your
music or anything that'schanging with your career.
Just let us know.
Yeah, perfect.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Thank you so much for having me All right.
So maggiemarrcom, yeah, MaggieMarr, m-a-r-r-e.
And yeah, I go stream MissParanoia.
I hope you like it.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Awesome, it's great, it's really good stuff, so
definitely want to listen tothat.
All right, man, that wasamazing there.
You have local songwriter here,but I'll tell you what I don't
think she's gonna be local forvery long.
Maggie Marr Miss Paranoia.
Maggie Marrcom, m-a-r-r-e dotcom.
All right, that's about it.
Thanks for joining us everyThursday at 7 pm, all right.
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