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What if looking good and feeling good were two sides of the same coin? In this eye-opening conversation with Mary Kelly and Jemika Sivak
from Skin Sanctuary Med Spa and Integrative Health, we dive deep into the fascinating world where beauty treatments meet functional medicine.
The duo shatters common misconceptions about aesthetic procedures like Botox, explaining how these treatments have evolved far beyond Hollywood celebrities to become accessible options for everyday wellness. You'll discover the science behind collagen stimulation, learning how innovative techniques like PRF (Platelet-Rich Fibrin) use your body's own healing mechanisms to rejuvenate skin and even restore hair. Their strategic approach focuses not on freezing expressions but on enhancing natural features while preventing signs of aging.
But this conversation goes much deeper than skin deep. We explore the revolutionary concept of "health span" versus "lifespan," addressing why so many people spend their retirement years managing preventable chronic conditions instead of thriving. Jemika breaks down the functional medicine approach that looks at root causes rather than symptoms, explaining the crucial connection between gut health and everything from mental clarity to immune function. Most shocking is their revelation that the "Four Horsemen" of modern health—heart disease, cancer, neurodegenerative diseases, and type 2 diabetes—are up to 80% preventable through lifestyle choices.
Whether you're curious about red light therapy's ability to recharge your cellular batteries or wondering about the real story behind weight loss medications like GLP-1 agonists, this episode delivers practical wisdom without judgment. The experts emphasize that perfection isn't necessary—making healthy choices just 80% of the time can dramatically improve your quality of life. Ready to reimagine your approach to aging and wellness? This conversation might just change how you think about the connection between looking good, feeling good, and living well. #botox #glp-1 #guthealth #bradweisman #skinsantuarymedspa
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
from real estate, the market as a whole, which then
sometimes will affect the 10.
Right, you know the real lifewe all learn in different ways.
If you think about it, waynedyer might not attract everybody
and everything in between themission was really to help
people just to reach their fullpotential, the brad weisman show
(00:38):
and now your host, brad Wiseman, appreciate that.
I met these two ladies.
Well, I met the one a while ago, but I met the other one at a
party I was at recently.
Now, that doesn't sound goodwhen you start out.
I met these two ladies at aparty.
That doesn't sound good at all,but it actually was good
because I know them and theyhave this company called Skin
Sanctuary, med Spa andIntegrative Health, and we got
(00:58):
into a deep conversation overhaving a couple of drinks and it
was really cool and I thoughtyou know what I need to get you
in to do a podcast, which ispretty much how most of my
conversations go after talkingto somebody.
But let's bring them in.
We got Jamaica over here on myleft and Mary Kelly or Mary, you
want me to just call you Mary.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Everyone calls me Mary Kelly.
It's Jess's fault, by the way.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And Susan McFadden's fault.
I think she calls you MaryKelly also.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, a lot of people do.
They think it's my whole firstname.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah Well, at least it's just Mary Kelly.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It could be like Mary Mary Kelly but, but, but, but,
but, but right, that's, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Definitely one for the books yeah, it was
absolutely and we had talkedabout so at the party we talked
about I was gonna have botoxdone and I decided the next day
that I was out of my freakingmind because I'm thinking it's
probably not a good idea to dothat on the show see, I totally
disagree.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
She disagrees, she's got everything at all.
You even said you brought theball to squeeze, so in case,
yeah yeah, I brought a littlevibration tool because I was
like I don't know how tough heis, I don't know what what's the
vibration tool about?
It's just like a littlevibrator that you put on your
face wow, maybe I should havesaid yes, I know, see, I had a
(02:23):
lot of fun planned for you.
Get out of here.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Would have been a good time I know.
This has gone weird.
But no, it's all good.
But no, I decide not to do it.
But it's not something I won'tdo, and maybe sometime we'll
bring you back and we'll do itthen.
I just feel like it's a lot todo in one shot.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It is.
You had me all excited.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I know I did, I know you did.
We're going to do it on thisguy instead.
We'll do it on this thing overhere.
This is what we're going to doit on.
Okay, so tell me a little bitabout your company.
What do you guys do?
And then we're going to godeeper into different categories
of things.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Okay, so a while ago, almost couple years ago, and we
were like gosh, we need topartner together and do
something so we started skinsanctuary med spa, so basically
that company we like trainedother injectors.
I don't even know at this pointhow many people we've trained.
(03:18):
Well, they're not all nurses,so you know it depends so
there's people that learn tojust do that?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
yeah, that are not.
No, you have to be yes.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Minimal is a nursing license.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So it's nurses, dentists, nurse practitioners,
PAs, physicians.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So that's it so that's the level of what we
train, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So, and then some of them would just go on their
merry way and work for otherpeople, and then some would
contract with us under ourmedical director.
So as of right now, there'snine of us across Pennsylvania
Interesting, and so that's kindof like how that's it Nine.
Nine.
Well, we were up to 13 at somepoint, but sometimes it's.
We had a couple of gals inPittsburgh, but it's just, it's
(03:54):
better when they're a little bitcloser because then we can do a
little bit more hands-on withthem.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh, that's crazy.
We've trained a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
We've trained probably in a year over 50
people at least, at least.
But um, yeah, I mean again,right at this point, we have
nine that contract and they'reat different locations.
Um, interesting in pennsylvania, yeah, and so you know, jameika
and I and our medical director,especially dr taranath really
big into lifestyle medicine, sowe were like, okay, how do we
introduce this?
(04:26):
That was always kind of part ofthe plan.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So we were at Skin Sanctuary Spa right in West Lawn
and decided to move out into abigger building.
So we just send facials andmassages back to that day spa.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, so you know we brought in the integrative
health, which is, you know, thefunctional medicine piece, the
weight loss.
We do like nurse healthcoaching.
It's just like you know inJamaica we'll speak to that with
functional medicine and kind ofwhat that looks like.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So there's so much with this and it's not something
that's been around forever,like I mean I know there's been.
Probably pieces of it have beenaround.
I mean, botox has been aroundforever and we always used to
think of Hollywood.
Right Now, botox is actuallymore to the common people if you
want to call it that.
Seriously years ago it was thestars, I mean, that's what you
heard of, and now it's here.
(05:15):
There's many people doing it,and so let's just dive into that
first, because that's the onethat well, actually a lot of
things that intrigue me in here,but that's the one that really
intrigues me.
How did it get to the pointwhere a lot of people are doing
it?
It's become more accessible.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, it's definitely become more accessible.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
More people can afford it, but also it's safety
record.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Right so.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I think people a long time ago.
It was just lack of educationon the topic and things like
that Also just kind of marketing.
I mean, allergan was amazing.
They were the first ones to,you know, market a brand name of
Botox, um, and they brought intheir Juvederm line and that was
the game changer.
I mean, that really is what youknow, catapulted this industry,
(06:00):
you know know, into what it istoday and it grows a lot every
year so it has also evolved ohso from what?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
so from what used to be, uh, what we call botox, and
botox is.
Is that the actual um, thatthat's not the, the unique name,
that's like a name for like abrand it is, so it's kind of
like kleenex.
It's the same okay so so isthere a term for it.
That's not botox.
What do you call it otherwise?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
botulinum toxin.
Neuromodulators.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, that's probably why they call it Botox, because
that is something we're notgoing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's a brilliant name , brilliant yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Absolutely so it has evolved.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It has, and actually, since Botox came on the market,
there's been multiple othersthat have been created, so it's
kind of like the original recipe.
So there are better ones outthere.
We don't use Botox brand.
We use one that has a lowerimmune profile, so that it's a
little bit safer and you don'tbuild a tolerance to it.
And for people with autoimmuneconditions you know, I'm type
(06:55):
one diabetic it's a little bitsafer.
Yeah, so we tried to pickthings that are, you know, as
closely related to you, knowyour own body, as possible.
Like the filler we use is veryclosely related to, or looks a
lot like, your own hyaluronicacid under a microscope.
So we choose those productsbased on that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
But I mean, it's just evolved into a million other
things.
You know, I mean collagenstimulation being probably one
of the new.
I hate to call it new, but-.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Is that the peptide stuff?
No, that's not.
It no, no.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No, that's more like microneedling, that's like we'll
draw your blood and spin itdown and get your plasma.
It's called PRF.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
We'll microneedle that into the skin.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That was one of the things Is microneedle that into
the skin.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
That was one of the things.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Is that PRF?
Yeah, I feel like I'm on a quiz.
That's one of the things on mylittle quiz sheet.
So they spin your blood to getyour what are you getting out of
that?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
then it's PRF, so it's platelet-rich fibrin, so
basically, collagen is built ona fibrin matrix.
So we're taking when you domicroneedling anyway, it kind of
makes your body flood the areathat you're microneedling with
your body's own PRF but thenwe're also drawing it out of
your bloodstream, spinning itdown in a centrifuge and then
just adding that much more ofthat response.
So, it just elevates thatcollagen stimulation.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That much more.
And what is that for then?
Is that for wrinkles, or?
No, it is, it's for everythingit's for everything and when you
say everything like give meother things besides wrinkles.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So like the hair restoration.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Oh, I need that.
I did read about that.
Let that we need to talk about.
Is it really working for hair?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
restoration.
It absolutely is men and womenalike, so it's not targeted to
just one specific gender either.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So what do you do?
Is that injected into yourscalp?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, yep, it is.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Wait till they're on.
Next time I'm going to have afull head of hair.
You go, it's going to be.
I'm going to be looking like Iused to up there.
You know, that's me up there,Just so you know.
I showed her oh that's right,you did see.
Yeah, yeah, so that is amazing.
So that's what that's used foralso, right, right, I'm blue.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
They use it actually in dentistry a lot, and they use
it in orthopedics too.
So I mean for likepost-surgical joint injections.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's kind of I mean, there's nothing more healing, or
or more powerful and healingthan your own body.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's just under the right circumstances.
If you have a healthy body,it's an incredible healing
machine.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Amazing, yeah, so now what?
So tell me, with Botox, howdoes that work?
Are you going to show me withthis, this guy that doesn't look
so good?
Botox.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
How does that work Are?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
you going to show me with this, this guy that doesn't
look so good.
He looks like he had way toomany things done to his face.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah Well, he's missing his skin, so that's kind
of that's a problem, that's amajor problem.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Um, so really everybody wants to bring it over
this way.
I think at this point.
I know before we told you notto do that Now.
Now I think we're and it'severything's a little opposite
here.
So it's there, you go, there,you go.
There he is.
Let's call him Stanley.
How about that?
Yeah, stanley is here.
I have a nephew named Stanley.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That might be a little weird.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Okay, so Stanley.
So basically, a lot of peoplethink because your skin you know
the wrinkles relax andeverything that you know, people
think that you're tighteningsomething.
You're actually relaxing themuscle.
So repetitive facial movementover time is what makes static
lines.
So when you move your eyebrowsup and down and you have lines
(10:09):
that form, those are dynamic.
But if you do that through yourlifetime, those muscles just
stay strong.
You're going to create staticlines, meaning that you'll get
the lines at rest.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
So it's super preventative in that.
So what we do basically is verystrategic points.
It's very very strategic.
People don't realize that,because when you hit one part of
a muscle, another muscle mightengage.
That's near it.
So it's very strategicallyplaced that there's a lot to it.
When we train people, they'realways like wow, I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah because it always looks to me that they're
just poking it right in this, inthe wrinkles, in the wrinkles
here.
No, not like that at all.
It's all based.
This is why I don't do it.
Right, yeah, we can train you.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I mean it's not legal , but we can train you so, and
honestly I mean, you can treatso many different muscles in the
whole face.
I mean Jamaica and I know everymuscle in the face of my heart.
You know and we know the actionof every muscle, because you
can do just so many cool thingswith raising eyebrows up,
opening up the eyes more,tightening up the chin and the
jawline.
I mean there's just so much.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This seems like I need a lot of this stuff.
Seriously, everything you'resaying, I'm like, yep, I can use
that.
Yeah, I can use that.
Honestly, everybody could Holycrap, you really could.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And younger people are doing it because we know
that if you keep that musclerelaxed and it can't fully
engage, it's not going to keepreinforcing those lines.
So, you know, I started doingit at 35.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But is there a point and this is stuff that you hear,
you know is there a point whereit looks like the person has no
expression on their face?
If you do it that way, if youdo it that way so you could do
it to the.
You can do it to somebody'sface where it's like like they
don't look like they can smileanymore.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Right, you can freeze somebody's face if you want to.
No, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You absolutely could.
No, that's not good.
You know some people like that.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, some people do, but for the most part, if it's
done correctly, no, it justlooks like, hey, you're taking
care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Your skin looks great , you just look like you're
doing something.
Now do you use it?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Of course, yes, I use a lot more because I'm much
older.
I'm much older than Jamaica, soI'm often the guinea pig in our
projects.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So she's the one that's like I'll do it on her.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
She needs it.
I'm usually volunteering.
She's always yeah, Practice onme.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Let's do it.
Oh my goodness, that's great.
So you're picking out themuscles that need to be relaxed,
right, and then that's whatmakes it that the now, how long
does that muscle relax for?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, typically, I mean, it depends on dosing and
everything but most people getabout three or four months out
of it.
We concentrate our products sowe try to get a little bit more
out of that.
So we're we're looking at likeusually our clients will call to
reschedule around the four orfour or five month mark.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Wow Interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, it's, it's really cool.
It's, it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It's very.
Is it all of a sudden just goand it's back to normal?
Or is it over time?
It's just kind of gradual.
That would be weird, right?
All of a sudden, you're havingdinner, you're having dinner
with somebody else on their facegoes and they're like all
wrinkly and old looking.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Although it doesn't happen like that, mentally it
happens.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Look in the mirror.
You wake up one.
So that's what that?
So let's go into some of thestuff that you're doing.
We'll get into what you'redoing.
You're doing the integrativehealth part of it, correct?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yes, tell me more about that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So put Stanley away.
Mary and I actually both dothis.
But but the integrative healthis more that functional medicine
.
Functional medicine isconsidered root cause medicine,
a little bit different thanconventional medicine.
I think of it as a triangle forfunctional medicine.
So you have optimization at thetop, you have conventional on
the left and you have holisticon the right.
(13:33):
So all three together is whatgets you the best health
outcomes and optimization inyour health.
So that's what integrativehealth is focusing on
optimization in your health.
So that's what integrativehealth is focusing on.
We're focusing on gettinganswers and increasing that
health span, not just thelifespan.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So I it's more about quality than quantity.
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So you know, you can have 78 years of life right
Right now.
Now these numbers are skewed byCOVID, but because of our
lifespan, it was what?
78 years, I believe, um forwomen.
And then our health span was 60to 63.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
So you get 60 good years.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So you know, most people spend those years working
.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm almost there.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Right, and then after that they're spending their
time in waiting rooms surgeriesdoctor's offices, appointments
you know pharmacies, so theywere finding that patients
weren't actually having a goodhealth span.
You know pharmacies, so theywere finding that patients
weren't actually having a goodhealth span.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
you know they'd get up, and what's interesting about
that is those are the yearsthat you retire right, exactly
so all of a sudden.
You work your whole life andyou retire and now um you're.
You're really not having a goodtime.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You're just sick all the time.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Functional medicine, kind of,is that next step to help
patients increase that healthspan?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And what does that mean?
What does that mean for me?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So well?
Essentially, we would look atyou know.
Say you have these diagnosis.
Say you have an issue with guthealth.
Say we're concerned.
You know everything you'reeating just making you not feel
good.
You're feeling tired, you'refeeling sick, brain fog, things
like that.
The functional standpoint willlook at what's going on inside
of the gut, whereas theconventional standpoint when you
say, gut, we're talking stomach, right.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And small intestines, probably Small intestines.
Everything, yes, so.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And small intestines, probably Small intestines
everything, yes, so we'relooking at stool samples, we're
looking at bacteria, we'relooking at permeability of the
intestines.
So I don't know if you've everheard of something called leaky
gut syndrome.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
There's a doctor I just listened to on Ed Milet's
show and he goes into this.
It was an hour of him talkingabout the whole gut thing and
the antibiotics and what we'vedone with antibiotics and how
we're overusing them and how youknow it used to be.
The one thing that was amazingto me is how we used to have an
antibiotic that was cultured forone certain thing and then they
came up with an antibioticwhich, basically, he said, was
(15:44):
like taking a machine gun andblowing away all your good
bacteria and bad.
Yeah, the broad span, that's it.
Broad spectrum Talked aboutthat.
And then he was talking aboutthe postbiotic, which is yogurt,
kimchi and sauerkraut.
Yep, you know I learned a lot,just as our parent, but it was
amazing.
That's the stuff he talkedabout.
The leaky gut and they'refinding out a lot of mental
health has to do with that.
(16:05):
Absolutely, because it doesyour serotonin, it kills your
seroton that to work.
So, yeah, hugo's shaking hishead over there, he's, he's into
this.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I can tell it is fascinating, so keep going.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So that that's part of what you work on or that you
look at.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I do, yeah.
So we kind of look at the bodyas a whole.
We're looking at you not asjust a patient, we're looking at
your story.
So sometimes, like talking withpatients, I can be in a room
for about an hour and 15 hourand 30 minutes getting a full
story as to where did all ofthis come from?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And there's a lot for me.
It's a lot right.
But, it all plays into one.
You know it all plays into eachother, but if you go to see
your regular family physician.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Do you start?
From the beginning with him.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, I've known him from the beginning, so I've
known him for a long time.
But yeah, but no, you're right,Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And that's kind of where we differ in that
integrative health approach.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Preventative.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, and whole body preventative right.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
From the relationships in your life all
the way down to how often you'regoing to the bathroom.
I mean, honestly, it's justbecause it's you know, it's all
encompassing.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Absolutely.
Mental health is the is the bigthing that I think everybody's
talking about today.
I mean a lot of it.
We always thought that mentalhealth was just all up in the
brain.
It's not.
They're saying from the gut Imean, there's things that we,
that we are not um cultivatingor we're killing.
That doesn't, that doesn't,yeah, and that's why we have
people on anxiety medicines, onADHD and all these things.
So they're they're just, Ithink, on the cusp of finding
(17:33):
out what's going to happen withall that stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think it's just starting.
I think this is the way thatmedicine is going to go.
Functional and integrative isthe way that it's going to go.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But they say there's trillions of bacteria in your
gut, trillions Right, right Likethat to me it's funny.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
They'll show these maps of the gut microbiome
diversity.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And that in gut microbiome diversity and that,
like in, you know areas wherethey're eating more all natural
foods and things like that theirgut microbiome is so much more
diverse.
And then you'll look atsomebody from our area, you know
, and it's really.
There's just not as muchdiversity and we need that.
I mean it really is like anecosystem in your gut.
And so all of these thingsprocessed foods?
(18:14):
I mean it's awful what it doesto the gut lining and so many of
us walk around honestly withunhealthy guts and it creates
this whole autoimmune.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I mean there's just all of these other issues that
come from having an unhealthygut, and that's also where
they're thinking that part ofyou know the what's it called.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Gluten, gluten.
Thank you, yeah, of, uh, youknow the, uh, the, what's it
called.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Gluten.
Thank you, yeah, how can Iforget that?
It's like the word of the 10years century.
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
So that's what you're workingon.
So you do a whole breakdownthen with somebody.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, it's awesome.
Yeah, we start from thebeginning, we do a whole
breakdown and then we work tofix problem by problem.
You know, focus on what'scausing the most issues for a
patient and then correctingthings from there, because if
you the body likes to becalibrated it will like
homeostasis.
It likes to be balanced.
So if we focus on the one thingthat's making it the most
(19:03):
unbalanced, all of the otherthings start to kind of fall
back in line over time.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's amazing, Very cool.
Let's go into.
You brought a book here thatyou talked about.
It was called the four horsemenand it was interesting.
A book here that you talkedabout.
It was called the Four Horsemenand it was interesting.
I just looked at a little bitabout it, but it talks about the
four horsemen and what I guessis heart disease, cancer, neuro
degenerative, like Alzheimer's.
And then also type 2 diabetes.
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So obviously are those like thefour things that are basically
the big killers and 80%preventable.
Yeah, Isn't that amazing?
Yeah, Honestly.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I mean we, just we, we we managed to heal so many
people with antibiotics and withsterile technique and all of
that Um and um kind of, you know, really solving a lot of the
main killers from centuries agoand then we just created new
ones and it's so behavioral, youknow, so related to behavioral
health.
I mean it's just you know theactions and the choices that you
(20:00):
make from.
You know your day-to-daydecisions about what you put in
your body and your activitylevel, and here they're the
leading causes of death, I meanit's just it's, it's really
unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So Dr Atiyah talks about that a lot in his book and
what you see, theneurodegenerative disease, is
that Alzheimer's.
You said Alzheimer's.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes, right, Alzheimer's dementia.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Amazing and because that kills too Absolutely.
I mean obviously it does.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Heart disease is big.
I have high blood pressure.
I've had it since I was 30years old, right, and that's
killing you.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
So a lot of it just comes down to the basics, right,
it's just.
It's honestly.
People complicate things, evenlike all these biohackers who
were bringing all this attentionto this world, which is amazing
.
The Brian Johnson have youheard of Brian Johnson?
It's interesting to watch, butI mean it's all encompassing of
his life, like everything hedoes is trying to promote
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longevity.
It doesn't have to be that hard.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It could literally just be removing processed foods
from your home doing some sortof level of activity, but that's
harder than what you think,though.
We are a busy people.
We are, I mean.
I just look at our family withtwo kids.
You know we have anine-year-old, 12-year-old, soon
to be 10, and 13, and dancegames, all these things going on
.
There are times when you justgot to throw something in the
(21:26):
microwave and eat because youknow, yes, you could grab an
apple, grab whatever, but youknow that doesn't always happen.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
So food prepping is huge, right.
So taking that time, everythingyou know, people will often say
to me oh, I don't have time tocause I do the nurse.
Health coaching part.
So, Jamaica is a nursepractitioner.
She'll meet with the client,order lab work and do all of
that.
And then I meet with them twicea month, sometimes weekly, and
just kind of like review all ofthose sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And they'll say to me like I don't have time for that
and I'm like I mean like I justdid, yeah, yeah, and I'm like,
I promise you, why didn't youjust say hey?
And there's people like youright?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
No, it's, it's a common thing, but it's all like
priorities.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And so you know you can function so much better um
in your life, in that busylifestyle, if you prioritize
that right um, so you know it'sit really.
It can be so simple and if youmake it just a part of your new
life, you know what I mean ifyou just transition yourself,
then that becomes normal, sure?
so it's just that we, you know,we've created this normalcy in
(22:29):
fast food, in not sitting downfor family meals like well, that
we do, and actually most of ourmeals we do sit down and eat
dinner, even when we're busy.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
We try to Sometimes Catherine's on her thing, doing
whatever her thing is, and thenshe'll eat when she comes back
or whatever.
But we typically Jess typicallyprepares a meal almost every
night.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Except for.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Friday and Saturday of course, friday and Saturday.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Those are like the days you kind of just do
whatever.
But no, we do, and it's usuallybroccoli and salads, things
like that, and then also chickenand things like that.
No, we're not.
We're not doing as bad as youthink.
I mean, I'm feeling guiltysitting here.
I really do.
I knew it was going to go thisway.
In my head I'm going oh God, Ido that.
Oh geez, I do that too.
Oh my gosh, I do that.
Yeah, but if you followed mearound, you'd be like he is bad.
(23:12):
He's really bad.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I try to tell people look, if 80 to 90, 90% is ideal,
but 80% of the time if you'redoing a good job day to day and
you know what I mean, then thatdefinitely is contributing to
the health the exercise part,you know?
Look, I'm like I get up at 5am.
I go to the 6am workout becauseI'm at work all day long and I
know that's a lot, but you knowthat's like a whole hour of
(23:34):
intense exercise.
Like it doesn't have to be thatmuch.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I do 40 minutes on the treadmill, fast walk.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
That's my thing.
I got to do that too.
Yeah, that's really good, jesus, I feel like I'm being drilled.
No, no, no, no hey.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Hugo, worst show ever You're putting yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Uh, you won't be invited back.
You're making yourselfvulnerable.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Holy shit, I look like this guy now I know, oh my
gosh, Now this guy's liftingweights.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
His muscles are big.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Obviously, obviously.
Well, here I'll lift the eightball.
There you go, perfect, thereyou go.
But no, I know weightlifting.
I used to do all that shit, Imean it gets out of your life.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And the thing is people think like, oh, I'll just
walk on the treadmill and allday long.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well, I didn't even do that up until two years ago,
but that's good, yeah, so it'sgetting there, it's getting
there, but the weightlifting onso many other levels is just
that much better.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I mean like even just in managing or preventing type
two diabetes.
Glucose is taken up in themuscle first.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So if you are trying to control and that's me, being
type 1 diabetic, I'm very big onweight lifting because I know
that my body is, my metabolismis going to be better.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, my um, you know , my blood sugar management is
going to be better, awesome.
So.
So that's the thing.
The it's, it's having moremuscle mass so that the glucose
is is for a million reasons.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Amazing, even for women who are menopausal.
And bones too.
I heard your bones right yeahthat's right.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's right, that's right, amazing yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Shoes a lot.
I'll tell you, can we get intosomething that's?
That's more fun for?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
me.
I don't have anything fun onthe list.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I've noticed that.
I've noticed that, um, theparty was a lot more fun.
I just said, yeah, it was a lotmore fun there.
Uh, but no, let's get into theGLP one, the weight loss
phenomenon thing.
You hear good things, you hearbad things, you hear all kinds
of things.
I was reading even more of itjust before you guys got here.
I was reading up on a littlebit more and didn't realize that
(25:23):
that actually is one thatthey're also.
Hypertension is kind of coveredin that and I'm guessing that's
because of the weight loss.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I'm thinking maybe I don't know it is a
cardioprotective drug.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
It does help support the heart, which can help lower
your blood pressure, but isn'tthere a lot of other stuff
that's bad with that or not?
I mean, you hear all kinds ofthings.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think it's no-transcript and it's well.
(26:31):
Why do they have to do that?
You know they're.
They're not going to continueto lose weight.
They're going to plateau atsome point.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
But as soon as they come off the medication, then
you have to worry about that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Like if somebody comes in, what do they?
What do you tell them?
10 pounds, 20 pounds it's avery variable.
So like I've seen patients lose, like my, like my family
members have lost 60 pounds onthis medication well, then that
becomes a major uh help to yourhealth, right it?
Does, and then it's okay.
Now we're at the point.
Now you need to sustain theweight and stay off this
medication because you don'twant to be on this forever
gotcha um, so transitioning themto other supportive measures
like diet and exercise peptidesoral peptides are really big too
(27:11):
, to help with some of thatweight loss.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I brought up the peptides earlier.
That was a word.
They just take something likethat collagen peptide.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
It's great yep does that come from a
Speaker 1 (27:21):
cow.
Is that where it comes from?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
so it depends on what kind you're using it had had a
cow on it.
It had a cow on it and it saidgrass fed, they're mostly bovine
.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Pretty sure they didn't put the cow in there just
for the hell of it.
Or is the cow taking it too.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Or you want to look like a cow.
You want to be as strong as acow.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't know she puts that in her.
I guess her water or something.
My wife's a lot healthier thanI am.
She's really good at all, soshe should have been the one
doing this interview.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
It would be a lot better actually Listen.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Her skin is perfection she looks amazing,
she does, she looks great, shetakes care of herself, she does.
So the GLP-1, so you're gettinga lot of people coming in for
that, obviously.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, just listening to what they have to say, it's
like maybe you don't need thatmedication, you don't need to go
through that drastic droppingof weight, and it does have side
effects right.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So the first thing it attacks is your GI system.
That's the first thing it goesafter.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And not.
A lot of patients want to feellike crampy abdomens all day
long or feel like they havediarrhea or nausea right.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Nobody wants to feel that way Not good for work.
Right exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
So you know it's, but we microdose to try to prevent
that.
So, we're, like you know, safelytwo to three pounds a week, so
we don't let people drop offthat much weight that quickly.
So we, like the way we have ourmemberships is if somebody has
a decent amount of weight tolose, like we're looking at six
months or something, because youknow we're we're coaching them
through it and we don't wantthem to go off the medicine and
(28:49):
gain the weight right back.
So so, yeah, so we do like amicro dosing.
We're very like cautious andgentle about it and there's a
lot of monitoring that goes intoit, because otherwise I mean
you see this happening wherepeople are buying it like street
drugs with no monitoring.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That scares me the most.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh yeah, monitoring that scares me the most.
Oh yeah, that's, it's crazy,exactly.
Yeah, it's like for business.
They come to us and they'relike my cheeks are gone and
we're like well, we're gonna puta lot of filler in there, yeah,
exactly so I'm like sure we'regonna give you the glp-1 and
then you're gonna need stuff tomake it look like you have a
little weight on not our people,but hey, people on the outside
coming in.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You know, yeah, it has a name.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's called a zempic face.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Oh my God, what it does.
It makes them very drawn.
I've noticed that.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Because you lose your fat pads.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You lose those fat pads.
You have fat pads in your face.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
That hold things up.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Wow, yeah, they're important.
So much for the fat pads, huh.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I know you can't win, right, you just can't win.
So, what are mean biohacking?
Basically, they talk a lotabout just cellular health and
regeneration, which is, I mean,there is a lot of research based
(29:54):
on that.
That's like the whole red lighttherapy.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yes, so let's talk about that too.
Let's, let's get into thatbefore we end up.
I want to talk about that.
Yeah, the red light therapy.
So this to me it came out ofnowhere and of course I think
right away witchcraft.
You know, I'm like okay, herewe go.
Here's another thing thatthey're gonna tell me that's
gonna do something and you knowdoes.
Is this real?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
it is absolutely real .
There's a tremendous amount ofresearch you know from.
I mean you could look upnational institute of health and
there's like thousands of whydid we just discover this now,
though?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
like Like.
Who came up with this?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I think it just became more readily available
and somebody probably took thetechnology and was like oh, we
can make money.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I mean capitalism just will catapult Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah, so I think that's more so, you know, and
then plus two like othercompanies coming in and saying,
hey, we can make these machinesand sell them, and we can sell
them to med spas.
It looks like a tanning bed.
In a way it's similar.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah very similar and you lay in there right and you
do yep, and it gets nice and hot, nice and warm.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I used to do tanning years ago.
See, I'm telling you I'm likesinful.
Already I owned a tanning salonhere in town and um, but it's
funny, you know, I learned a lotabout stuff, a lot of things
about skin and all that stuff.
Um, but with the red lightthing, that's not.
It's actually good for you,it's amazing.
It's amazing for you.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, so it just basically all of these treatment
modalities NAD injections,hyperbaric oxygen chambers, red
light therapy uh, they allstimulate your mitochondria to
produce more energy.
So as we age, and especially inpeople with chronic conditions,
your mitochondria stink.
They just don't make as muchenergy Like your 10-year-old
self would have made a ton ofenergy in your cells compared to
(31:34):
yourself now.
So basically, when thosemitochondria do not function in
a healthy way anymore, likecancer can come out of that
metabolic diseases, like nothingin your cell is really
functioning quite right,Interesting.
So these will stimulate theenergy in your cells and it kind
of will fix everything.
So when people are like, what'sthe benefit?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
So it activates them.
Is that what it does?
It kind of activates them orstimulates them, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
It's like a recharge Interesting, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I would definitely want to try that one, I want it?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, obviously, yeah , I know.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Depends on the day.
Yeah, exactly, I wasn't veryelectrically charged after the
party.
Oh no, no, the next morningdefinitely not.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Well, that's when you need to do your IV therapy.
Then, exactly, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You know, we're always hooking each other up, oh
, for sure.
We don't have our drink reallyhonestly.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But we do it if we're not perfect okay, just making
sure just making sure 80 to 90percent okay so there's, there's
a 10, 20 that you're like verythat things are just off, not
gone.
It's not good.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, exactly honestly with these clients that
come through like I don't havethe measure food I don't have
it's.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
It's about Do you like cheesesteaks?
Let's just put that out there.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I do, but I have celiac, so I can't have gluten
yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So I know, yeah, yeah , you're not a lot of fun to be
with, are you Geez?
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
So no no bread.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, oh, you can drink wine though, right.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Oh, thank God, thank you for not taking that away
from me, obviously not too much,it's all in moderation.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, I'll tell you what this has been awesome.
Definitely have to have youguys back, because we talked for
33 minutes, believe it or not,and so we covered a lot.
But there's a lot of stuff wecan cover, I think on another
show and maybe you will be ableto do a little Botox on me the
next time we'll see either thator just get Hugo to do it.
I just don't know what else todo.
We'll bring Jess in here.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
We'll have to give you a couple drinks first.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Drinks and Botox.
What a combination.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Bubbly and Botox.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Bubbly and Botox.
I love it.
That's about it.
Thanks guys for coming in.
I really appreciate it.
Alright coming, I reallyappreciate it.
All right, there you have itskin sanctuary, med, spa and
integrative health, mary andjameika.
Man, what a great show that was.
I did not get botox done, butmaybe the next time I will.
We'll see.
But we weren't.
We learned a lot and, uh, Iknow some things I need to do.
I need to lift weights.
I gotta do some other things.
(33:59):
We'll see.
I'll see if we can fit it allin.
She says I can, but we'll see.
All right, that's about it.
See you every thursday at 7 pm,all right, good.
from real estate, the market as a whole, which then
sometimes will affect the 10.
Right, you know the real lifewe all learn in different ways.
If you think about it, waynedyer might not attract everybody
and everything in between themission was really to help
people just to reach their fullpotential, the brad weisman show
(00:38):
and now your host, brad Wiseman, appreciate that.
I met these two ladies.
Well, I met the one a while ago, but I met the other one at a
party I was at recently.
Now, that doesn't sound goodwhen you start out.
I met these two ladies at aparty.
That doesn't sound good at all,but it actually was good
because I know them and theyhave this company called Skin
Sanctuary, med Spa andIntegrative Health, and we got
(00:58):
into a deep conversation overhaving a couple of drinks and it
was really cool and I thoughtyou know what I need to get you
in to do a podcast, which ispretty much how most of my
conversations go after talkingto somebody.
But let's bring them in.
We got Jamaica over here on myleft and Mary Kelly or Mary, you
want me to just call you Mary.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Everyone calls me Mary Kelly.
It's Jess's fault, by the way.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
And Susan McFadden's fault.
I think she calls you MaryKelly also.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, a lot of people do.
They think it's my whole firstname.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah Well, at least it's just Mary Kelly.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It could be like Mary Mary Kelly but, but, but, but,
but, but right, that's, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Definitely one for the books yeah, it was
absolutely and we had talkedabout so at the party we talked
about I was gonna have botoxdone and I decided the next day
that I was out of my freakingmind because I'm thinking it's
probably not a good idea to dothat on the show see, I totally
disagree.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
She disagrees, she's got everything at all.
You even said you brought theball to squeeze, so in case,
yeah yeah, I brought a littlevibration tool because I was
like I don't know how tough heis, I don't know what what's the
vibration tool about?
It's just like a littlevibrator that you put on your
face wow, maybe I should havesaid yes, I know, see, I had a
(02:23):
lot of fun planned for you.
Get out of here.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Would have been a good time I know.
This has gone weird.
But no, it's all good.
But no, I decide not to do it.
But it's not something I won'tdo, and maybe sometime we'll
bring you back and we'll do itthen.
I just feel like it's a lot todo in one shot.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
It is.
You had me all excited.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I know I did, I know you did.
We're going to do it on thisguy instead.
We'll do it on this thing overhere.
This is what we're going to doit on.
Okay, so tell me a little bitabout your company.
What do you guys do?
And then we're going to godeeper into different categories
of things.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Okay, so a while ago, almost couple years ago, and we
were like gosh, we need topartner together and do
something so we started skinsanctuary med spa, so basically
that company we like trainedother injectors.
I don't even know at this pointhow many people we've trained.
(03:18):
Well, they're not all nurses,so you know it depends so
there's people that learn tojust do that?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
yeah, that are not.
No, you have to be yes.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Minimal is a nursing license.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So it's nurses, dentists, nurse practitioners,
PAs, physicians.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So that's it so that's the level of what we
train, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So, and then some of them would just go on their
merry way and work for otherpeople, and then some would
contract with us under ourmedical director.
So as of right now, there'snine of us across Pennsylvania
Interesting, and so that's kindof like how that's it Nine.
Nine.
Well, we were up to 13 at somepoint, but sometimes it's.
We had a couple of gals inPittsburgh, but it's just, it's
(03:54):
better when they're a little bitcloser because then we can do a
little bit more hands-on withthem.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh, that's crazy.
We've trained a lot.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
We've trained probably in a year over 50
people at least, at least.
But um, yeah, I mean again,right at this point, we have
nine that contract and they'reat different locations.
Um, interesting in pennsylvania, yeah, and so you know, jameika
and I and our medical director,especially dr taranath really
big into lifestyle medicine, sowe were like, okay, how do we
introduce this?
(04:26):
That was always kind of part ofthe plan.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So we were at Skin Sanctuary Spa right in West Lawn
and decided to move out into abigger building.
So we just send facials andmassages back to that day spa.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, so you know we brought in the integrative
health, which is, you know, thefunctional medicine piece, the
weight loss.
We do like nurse healthcoaching.
It's just like you know inJamaica we'll speak to that with
functional medicine and kind ofwhat that looks like.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So there's so much with this and it's not something
that's been around forever,like I mean I know there's been.
Probably pieces of it have beenaround.
I mean, botox has been aroundforever and we always used to
think of Hollywood.
Right Now, botox is actuallymore to the common people if you
want to call it that.
Seriously years ago it was thestars, I mean, that's what you
heard of, and now it's here.
(05:15):
There's many people doing it,and so let's just dive into that
first, because that's the onethat well, actually a lot of
things that intrigue me in here,but that's the one that really
intrigues me.
How did it get to the pointwhere a lot of people are doing
it?
It's become more accessible.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, it's definitely become more accessible.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
More people can afford it, but also it's safety
record.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Right so.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I think people a long time ago.
It was just lack of educationon the topic and things like
that Also just kind of marketing.
I mean, allergan was amazing.
They were the first ones to,you know, market a brand name of
Botox, um, and they brought intheir Juvederm line and that was
the game changer.
I mean, that really is what youknow, catapulted this industry,
(06:00):
you know know, into what it istoday and it grows a lot every
year so it has also evolved ohso from what?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
so from what used to be, uh, what we call botox, and
botox is.
Is that the actual um, thatthat's not the, the unique name,
that's like a name for like abrand it is, so it's kind of
like kleenex.
It's the same okay so so isthere a term for it.
That's not botox.
What do you call it otherwise?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
botulinum toxin.
Neuromodulators.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, that's probably why they call it Botox, because
that is something we're notgoing to talk about.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's a brilliant name , brilliant yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Absolutely so it has evolved.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It has, and actually, since Botox came on the market,
there's been multiple othersthat have been created, so it's
kind of like the original recipe.
So there are better ones outthere.
We don't use Botox brand.
We use one that has a lowerimmune profile, so that it's a
little bit safer and you don'tbuild a tolerance to it.
And for people with autoimmuneconditions you know, I'm type
(06:55):
one diabetic it's a little bitsafer.
Yeah, so we tried to pickthings that are, you know, as
closely related to you, knowyour own body, as possible.
Like the filler we use is veryclosely related to, or looks a
lot like, your own hyaluronicacid under a microscope.
So we choose those productsbased on that.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
But I mean, it's just evolved into a million other
things.
You know, I mean collagenstimulation being probably one
of the new.
I hate to call it new, but-.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Is that the peptide stuff?
No, that's not.
It no, no.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No, that's more like microneedling, that's like we'll
draw your blood and spin itdown and get your plasma.
It's called PRF.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
We'll microneedle that into the skin.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That was one of the things Is microneedle that into
the skin.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
That was one of the things.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Is that PRF?
Yeah, I feel like I'm on a quiz.
That's one of the things on mylittle quiz sheet.
So they spin your blood to getyour what are you getting out of
that?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
then it's PRF, so it's platelet-rich fibrin, so
basically, collagen is built ona fibrin matrix.
So we're taking when you domicroneedling anyway, it kind of
makes your body flood the areathat you're microneedling with
your body's own PRF but thenwe're also drawing it out of
your bloodstream, spinning itdown in a centrifuge and then
just adding that much more ofthat response.
So, it just elevates thatcollagen stimulation.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That much more.
And what is that for then?
Is that for wrinkles, or?
No, it is, it's for everythingit's for everything and when you
say everything like give meother things besides wrinkles.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So like the hair restoration.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Oh, I need that.
I did read about that.
Let that we need to talk about.
Is it really working for hair?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
restoration.
It absolutely is men and womenalike, so it's not targeted to
just one specific gender either.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
So what do you do?
Is that injected into yourscalp?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yes, yep, it is.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Wait till they're on.
Next time I'm going to have afull head of hair.
You go, it's going to be.
I'm going to be looking like Iused to up there.
You know, that's me up there,Just so you know.
I showed her oh that's right,you did see.
Yeah, yeah, so that is amazing.
So that's what that's used foralso, right, right, I'm blue.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
They use it actually in dentistry a lot, and they use
it in orthopedics too.
So I mean for likepost-surgical joint injections.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's kind of I mean, there's nothing more healing, or
or more powerful and healingthan your own body.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's just under the right circumstances.
If you have a healthy body,it's an incredible healing
machine.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Amazing, yeah, so now what?
So tell me, with Botox, howdoes that work?
Are you going to show me withthis, this guy that doesn't look
so good?
Botox.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
How does that work Are?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
you going to show me with this, this guy that doesn't
look so good.
He looks like he had way toomany things done to his face.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah Well, he's missing his skin, so that's kind
of that's a problem, that's amajor problem.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Um, so really everybody wants to bring it over
this way.
I think at this point.
I know before we told you notto do that Now.
Now I think we're and it'severything's a little opposite
here.
So it's there, you go, there,you go.
There he is.
Let's call him Stanley.
How about that?
Yeah, stanley is here.
I have a nephew named Stanley.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
That might be a little weird.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Okay, so Stanley.
So basically, a lot of peoplethink because your skin you know
the wrinkles relax andeverything that you know, people
think that you're tighteningsomething.
You're actually relaxing themuscle.
So repetitive facial movementover time is what makes static
lines.
So when you move your eyebrowsup and down and you have lines
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that form, those are dynamic.
But if you do that through yourlifetime, those muscles just
stay strong.
You're going to create staticlines, meaning that you'll get
the lines at rest.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
So it's super preventative in that.
So what we do basically is verystrategic points.
It's very very strategic.
People don't realize that,because when you hit one part of
a muscle, another muscle mightengage.
That's near it.
So it's very strategicallyplaced that there's a lot to it.
When we train people, they'realways like wow, I had no idea.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah because it always looks to me that they're
just poking it right in this, inthe wrinkles, in the wrinkles
here.
No, not like that at all.
It's all based.
This is why I don't do it.
Right, yeah, we can train you.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I mean it's not legal , but we can train you so, and
honestly I mean, you can treatso many different muscles in the
whole face.
I mean Jamaica and I know everymuscle in the face of my heart.
You know and we know the actionof every muscle, because you
can do just so many cool thingswith raising eyebrows up,
opening up the eyes more,tightening up the chin and the
jawline.
I mean there's just so much.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This seems like I need a lot of this stuff.
Seriously, everything you'resaying, I'm like, yep, I can use
that.
Yeah, I can use that.
Honestly, everybody could Holycrap, you really could.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And younger people are doing it because we know
that if you keep that musclerelaxed and it can't fully
engage, it's not going to keepreinforcing those lines.
So, you know, I started doingit at 35.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But is there a point and this is stuff that you hear,
you know is there a point whereit looks like the person has no
expression on their face?
If you do it that way, if youdo it that way so you could do
it to the.
You can do it to somebody'sface where it's like like they
don't look like they can smileanymore.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Right, you can freeze somebody's face if you want to.
No, that's not good.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You absolutely could.
No, that's not good.
You know some people like that.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, some people do, but for the most part, if it's
done correctly, no, it justlooks like, hey, you're taking
care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Your skin looks great , you just look like you're
doing something.
Now do you use it?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Of course, yes, I use a lot more because I'm much
older.
I'm much older than Jamaica, soI'm often the guinea pig in our
projects.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So she's the one that's like I'll do it on her.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
She needs it.
I'm usually volunteering.
She's always yeah, Practice onme.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Let's do it.
Oh my goodness, that's great.
So you're picking out themuscles that need to be relaxed,
right, and then that's whatmakes it that the now, how long
does that muscle relax for?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, typically, I mean, it depends on dosing and
everything but most people getabout three or four months out
of it.
We concentrate our products sowe try to get a little bit more
out of that.
So we're we're looking at likeusually our clients will call to
reschedule around the four orfour or five month mark.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Wow Interesting.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, it's, it's really cool.
It's, it's really cool.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It's very.
Is it all of a sudden just goand it's back to normal?
Or is it over time?
It's just kind of gradual.
That would be weird, right?
All of a sudden, you're havingdinner, you're having dinner
with somebody else on their facegoes and they're like all
wrinkly and old looking.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Although it doesn't happen like that, mentally it
happens.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Look in the mirror.
You wake up one.
So that's what that?
So let's go into some of thestuff that you're doing.
We'll get into what you'redoing.
You're doing the integrativehealth part of it, correct?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yes, tell me more about that.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
So put Stanley away.
Mary and I actually both dothis.
But but the integrative healthis more that functional medicine
.
Functional medicine isconsidered root cause medicine,
a little bit different thanconventional medicine.
I think of it as a triangle forfunctional medicine.
So you have optimization at thetop, you have conventional on
the left and you have holisticon the right.
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So all three together is whatgets you the best health
outcomes and optimization inyour health.
So that's what integrativehealth is focusing on
optimization in your health.
So that's what integrativehealth is focusing on.
We're focusing on gettinganswers and increasing that
health span, not just thelifespan.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
So I it's more about quality than quantity.
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So you know, you can have 78 years of life right
Right now.
Now these numbers are skewed byCOVID, but because of our
lifespan, it was what?
78 years, I believe, um forwomen.
And then our health span was 60to 63.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
So you get 60 good years.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So you know, most people spend those years working
.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm almost there.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Right, and then after that they're spending their
time in waiting rooms surgeriesdoctor's offices, appointments
you know pharmacies, so theywere finding that patients
weren't actually having a goodhealth span.
You know pharmacies, so theywere finding that patients
weren't actually having a goodhealth span.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
you know they'd get up, and what's interesting about
that is those are the yearsthat you retire right, exactly
so all of a sudden.
You work your whole life andyou retire and now um you're.
You're really not having a goodtime.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
You're just sick all the time.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Functional medicine, kind of,is that next step to help
patients increase that healthspan?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And what does that mean?
What does that mean for me?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So well?
Essentially, we would look atyou know.
Say you have these diagnosis.
Say you have an issue with guthealth.
Say we're concerned.
You know everything you'reeating just making you not feel
good.
You're feeling tired, you'refeeling sick, brain fog, things
like that.
The functional standpoint willlook at what's going on inside
of the gut, whereas theconventional standpoint when you
say, gut, we're talking stomach, right.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And small intestines, probably Small intestines.
Everything, yes, so.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And small intestines, probably Small intestines
everything, yes, so we'relooking at stool samples, we're
looking at bacteria, we'relooking at permeability of the
intestines.
So I don't know if you've everheard of something called leaky
gut syndrome.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
There's a doctor I just listened to on Ed Milet's
show and he goes into this.
It was an hour of him talkingabout the whole gut thing and
the antibiotics and what we'vedone with antibiotics and how
we're overusing them and how youknow it used to be.
The one thing that was amazingto me is how we used to have an
antibiotic that was cultured forone certain thing and then they
came up with an antibioticwhich, basically, he said, was
(15:44):
like taking a machine gun andblowing away all your good
bacteria and bad.
Yeah, the broad span, that's it.
Broad spectrum Talked aboutthat.
And then he was talking aboutthe postbiotic, which is yogurt,
kimchi and sauerkraut.
Yep, you know I learned a lot,just as our parent, but it was
amazing.
That's the stuff he talkedabout.
The leaky gut and they'refinding out a lot of mental
health has to do with that.
(16:05):
Absolutely, because it doesyour serotonin, it kills your
seroton that to work.
So, yeah, hugo's shaking hishead over there, he's, he's into
this.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I can tell it is fascinating, so keep going.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So that that's part of what you work on or that you
look at.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I do, yeah.
So we kind of look at the bodyas a whole.
We're looking at you not asjust a patient, we're looking at
your story.
So sometimes, like talking withpatients, I can be in a room
for about an hour and 15 hourand 30 minutes getting a full
story as to where did all ofthis come from?
Speaker 1 (16:37):
And there's a lot for me.
It's a lot right.
But, it all plays into one.
You know it all plays into eachother, but if you go to see
your regular family physician.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Do you start?
From the beginning with him.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, I've known him from the beginning, so I've
known him for a long time.
But yeah, but no, you're right,Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And that's kind of where we differ in that
integrative health approach.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Preventative.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, and whole body preventative right.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
From the relationships in your life all
the way down to how often you'regoing to the bathroom.
I mean, honestly, it's justbecause it's you know, it's all
encompassing.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Absolutely.
Mental health is the is the bigthing that I think everybody's
talking about today.
I mean a lot of it.
We always thought that mentalhealth was just all up in the
brain.
It's not.
They're saying from the gut Imean, there's things that we,
that we are not um cultivatingor we're killing.
That doesn't, that doesn't,yeah, and that's why we have
people on anxiety medicines, onADHD and all these things.
So they're they're just, Ithink, on the cusp of finding
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out what's going to happen withall that stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I think it's just starting.
I think this is the way thatmedicine is going to go.
Functional and integrative isthe way that it's going to go.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But they say there's trillions of bacteria in your
gut, trillions Right, right Likethat to me it's funny.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
They'll show these maps of the gut microbiome
diversity.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
And that in gut microbiome diversity and that,
like in, you know areas wherethey're eating more all natural
foods and things like that theirgut microbiome is so much more
diverse.
And then you'll look atsomebody from our area, you know
, and it's really.
There's just not as muchdiversity and we need that.
I mean it really is like anecosystem in your gut.
And so all of these thingsprocessed foods?
(18:14):
I mean it's awful what it doesto the gut lining and so many of
us walk around honestly withunhealthy guts and it creates
this whole autoimmune.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I mean there's just all of these other issues that
come from having an unhealthygut, and that's also where
they're thinking that part ofyou know the what's it called.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Gluten, gluten.
Thank you, yeah, of, uh, youknow the, uh, the, what's it
called.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Gluten.
Thank you, yeah, how can Iforget that?
It's like the word of the 10years century.
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
So that's what you're workingon.
So you do a whole breakdownthen with somebody.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, it's awesome.
Yeah, we start from thebeginning, we do a whole
breakdown and then we work tofix problem by problem.
You know, focus on what'scausing the most issues for a
patient and then correctingthings from there, because if
you the body likes to becalibrated it will like
homeostasis.
It likes to be balanced.
So if we focus on the one thingthat's making it the most
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unbalanced, all of the otherthings start to kind of fall
back in line over time.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That's amazing, Very cool.
Let's go into.
You brought a book here thatyou talked about.
It was called the four horsemenand it was interesting.
A book here that you talkedabout.
It was called the Four Horsemenand it was interesting.
I just looked at a little bitabout it, but it talks about the
four horsemen and what I guessis heart disease, cancer, neuro
degenerative, like Alzheimer's.
And then also type 2 diabetes.
(19:28):
So obviously are those like thefour things that are basically
the big killers and 80%preventable.
Yeah, Isn't that amazing?
Yeah, Honestly.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I mean we, just we, we we managed to heal so many
people with antibiotics and withsterile technique and all of
that Um and um kind of, you know, really solving a lot of the
main killers from centuries agoand then we just created new
ones and it's so behavioral, youknow, so related to behavioral
health.
I mean it's just you know theactions and the choices that you
(20:00):
make from.
You know your day-to-daydecisions about what you put in
your body and your activitylevel, and here they're the
leading causes of death, I meanit's just it's, it's really
unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
So Dr Atiyah talks about that a lot in his book and
what you see, theneurodegenerative disease, is
that Alzheimer's.
You said Alzheimer's.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes, right, Alzheimer's dementia.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Amazing and because that kills too Absolutely.
I mean obviously it does.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Heart disease is big.
I have high blood pressure.
I've had it since I was 30years old, right, and that's
killing you.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
So a lot of it just comes down to the basics, right,
it's just.
It's honestly.
People complicate things, evenlike all these biohackers who
were bringing all this attentionto this world, which is amazing
.
The Brian Johnson have youheard of Brian Johnson?
It's interesting to watch, butI mean it's all encompassing of
his life, like everything hedoes is trying to promote
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longevity.
It doesn't have to be that hard.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It could literally just be removing processed foods
from your home doing some sortof level of activity, but that's
harder than what you think,though.
We are a busy people.
We are, I mean.
I just look at our family withtwo kids.
You know we have anine-year-old, 12-year-old, soon
to be 10, and 13, and dancegames, all these things going on
.
There are times when you justgot to throw something in the
(21:26):
microwave and eat because youknow, yes, you could grab an
apple, grab whatever, but youknow that doesn't always happen.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
So food prepping is huge, right.
So taking that time, everythingyou know, people will often say
to me oh, I don't have time tocause I do the nurse.
Health coaching part.
So, Jamaica is a nursepractitioner.
She'll meet with the client,order lab work and do all of
that.
And then I meet with them twicea month, sometimes weekly, and
just kind of like review all ofthose sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
And they'll say to me like I don't have time for that
and I'm like I mean like I justdid, yeah, yeah, and I'm like,
I promise you, why didn't youjust say hey?
And there's people like youright?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
No, it's, it's a common thing, but it's all like
priorities.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And so you know you can function so much better um
in your life, in that busylifestyle, if you prioritize
that right um, so you know it'sit really.
It can be so simple and if youmake it just a part of your new
life, you know what I mean ifyou just transition yourself,
then that becomes normal, sure?
so it's just that we, you know,we've created this normalcy in
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fast food, in not sitting downfor family meals like well, that
we do, and actually most of ourmeals we do sit down and eat
dinner, even when we're busy.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
We try to Sometimes Catherine's on her thing, doing
whatever her thing is, and thenshe'll eat when she comes back
or whatever.
But we typically Jess typicallyprepares a meal almost every
night.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Except for.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Friday and Saturday of course, friday and Saturday.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Those are like the days you kind of just do
whatever.
But no, we do, and it's usuallybroccoli and salads, things
like that, and then also chickenand things like that.
No, we're not.
We're not doing as bad as youthink.
I mean, I'm feeling guiltysitting here.
I really do.
I knew it was going to go thisway.
In my head I'm going oh God, Ido that.
Oh geez, I do that too.
Oh my gosh, I do that.
Yeah, but if you followed mearound, you'd be like he is bad.
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He's really bad.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I try to tell people look, if 80 to 90, 90% is ideal,
but 80% of the time if you'redoing a good job day to day and
you know what I mean, then thatdefinitely is contributing to
the health the exercise part,you know?
Look, I'm like I get up at 5am.
I go to the 6am workout becauseI'm at work all day long and I
know that's a lot, but you knowthat's like a whole hour of
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intense exercise.
Like it doesn't have to be thatmuch.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I do 40 minutes on the treadmill, fast walk.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
That's my thing.
I got to do that too.
Yeah, that's really good, jesus, I feel like I'm being drilled.
No, no, no, no hey.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Hugo, worst show ever You're putting yourself.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Uh, you won't be invited back.
You're making yourselfvulnerable.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Holy shit, I look like this guy now I know, oh my
gosh, Now this guy's liftingweights.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
His muscles are big.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Obviously, obviously.
Well, here I'll lift the eightball.
There you go, perfect, thereyou go.
But no, I know weightlifting.
I used to do all that shit, Imean it gets out of your life.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
And the thing is people think like, oh, I'll just
walk on the treadmill and allday long.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well, I didn't even do that up until two years ago,
but that's good, yeah, so it'sgetting there, it's getting
there, but the weightlifting onso many other levels is just
that much better.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
I mean like even just in managing or preventing type
two diabetes.
Glucose is taken up in themuscle first.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So if you are trying to control and that's me, being
type 1 diabetic, I'm very big onweight lifting because I know
that my body is, my metabolismis going to be better.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, my um, you know , my blood sugar management is
going to be better, awesome.
So.
So that's the thing.
The it's, it's having moremuscle mass so that the glucose
is is for a million reasons.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Amazing, even for women who are menopausal.
And bones too.
I heard your bones right yeahthat's right.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's right, that's right, amazing yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Shoes a lot.
I'll tell you, can we get intosomething that's?
That's more fun for?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
me.
I don't have anything fun onthe list.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I've noticed that.
I've noticed that, um, theparty was a lot more fun.
I just said, yeah, it was a lotmore fun there.
Uh, but no, let's get into theGLP one, the weight loss
phenomenon thing.
You hear good things, you hearbad things, you hear all kinds
of things.
I was reading even more of itjust before you guys got here.
I was reading up on a littlebit more and didn't realize that
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that actually is one thatthey're also.
Hypertension is kind of coveredin that and I'm guessing that's
because of the weight loss.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I'm thinking maybe I don't know it is a
cardioprotective drug.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
It does help support the heart, which can help lower
your blood pressure, but isn'tthere a lot of other stuff
that's bad with that or not?
I mean, you hear all kinds ofthings.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think it's no-transcript and it's well.
(26:31):
Why do they have to do that?
You know they're.
They're not going to continueto lose weight.
They're going to plateau atsome point.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
But as soon as they come off the medication, then
you have to worry about that.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Like if somebody comes in, what do they?
What do you tell them?
10 pounds, 20 pounds it's avery variable.
So like I've seen patients lose, like my, like my family
members have lost 60 pounds onthis medication well, then that
becomes a major uh help to yourhealth, right it?
Does, and then it's okay.
Now we're at the point.
Now you need to sustain theweight and stay off this
medication because you don'twant to be on this forever
gotcha um, so transitioning themto other supportive measures
like diet and exercise peptidesoral peptides are really big too
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, to help with some of thatweight loss.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
I brought up the peptides earlier.
That was a word.
They just take something likethat collagen peptide.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
It's great yep does that come from a
Speaker 1 (27:21):
cow.
Is that where it comes from?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
so it depends on what kind you're using it had had a
cow on it.
It had a cow on it and it saidgrass fed, they're mostly bovine
.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Pretty sure they didn't put the cow in there just
for the hell of it.
Or is the cow taking it too.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, exactly.
Or you want to look like a cow.
You want to be as strong as acow.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't know she puts that in her.
I guess her water or something.
My wife's a lot healthier thanI am.
She's really good at all, soshe should have been the one
doing this interview.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
It would be a lot better actually Listen.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Her skin is perfection she looks amazing,
she does, she looks great, shetakes care of herself, she does.
So the GLP-1, so you're gettinga lot of people coming in for
that, obviously.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, just listening to what they have to say, it's
like maybe you don't need thatmedication, you don't need to go
through that drastic droppingof weight, and it does have side
effects right.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So the first thing it attacks is your GI system.
That's the first thing it goesafter.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And not.
A lot of patients want to feellike crampy abdomens all day
long or feel like they havediarrhea or nausea right.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Nobody wants to feel that way Not good for work.
Right exactly.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
So you know it's, but we microdose to try to prevent
that.
So, we're, like you know, safelytwo to three pounds a week, so
we don't let people drop offthat much weight that quickly.
So we, like the way we have ourmemberships is if somebody has
a decent amount of weight tolose, like we're looking at six
months or something, because youknow we're we're coaching them
through it and we don't wantthem to go off the medicine and
(28:49):
gain the weight right back.
So so, yeah, so we do like amicro dosing.
We're very like cautious andgentle about it and there's a
lot of monitoring that goes intoit, because otherwise I mean
you see this happening wherepeople are buying it like street
drugs with no monitoring.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
That scares me the most.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh yeah, monitoring that scares me the most.
Oh yeah, that's, it's crazy,exactly.
Yeah, it's like for business.
They come to us and they'relike my cheeks are gone and
we're like well, we're gonna puta lot of filler in there, yeah,
exactly so I'm like sure we'regonna give you the glp-1 and
then you're gonna need stuff tomake it look like you have a
little weight on not our people,but hey, people on the outside
coming in.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
You know, yeah, it has a name.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's called a zempic face.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Oh my God, what it does.
It makes them very drawn.
I've noticed that.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Because you lose your fat pads.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You lose those fat pads.
You have fat pads in your face.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
That hold things up.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Wow, yeah, they're important.
So much for the fat pads, huh.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
I know you can't win, right, you just can't win.
So, what are mean biohacking?
Basically, they talk a lotabout just cellular health and
regeneration, which is, I mean,there is a lot of research based
(29:54):
on that.
That's like the whole red lighttherapy.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yes, so let's talk about that too.
Let's, let's get into thatbefore we end up.
I want to talk about that.
Yeah, the red light therapy.
So this to me it came out ofnowhere and of course I think
right away witchcraft.
You know, I'm like okay, herewe go.
Here's another thing thatthey're gonna tell me that's
gonna do something and you knowdoes.
Is this real?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
it is absolutely real .
There's a tremendous amount ofresearch you know from.
I mean you could look upnational institute of health and
there's like thousands of whydid we just discover this now,
though?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
like Like.
Who came up with this?
Speaker 3 (30:28):
I think it just became more readily available
and somebody probably took thetechnology and was like oh, we
can make money.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I mean capitalism just will catapult Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah, so I think that's more so, you know, and
then plus two like othercompanies coming in and saying,
hey, we can make these machinesand sell them, and we can sell
them to med spas.
It looks like a tanning bed.
In a way it's similar.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah very similar and you lay in there right and you
do yep, and it gets nice and hot, nice and warm.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I used to do tanning years ago.
See, I'm telling you I'm likesinful.
Already I owned a tanning salonhere in town and um, but it's
funny, you know, I learned a lotabout stuff, a lot of things
about skin and all that stuff.
Um, but with the red lightthing, that's not.
It's actually good for you,it's amazing.
It's amazing for you.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, so it just basically all of these treatment
modalities NAD injections,hyperbaric oxygen chambers, red
light therapy uh, they allstimulate your mitochondria to
produce more energy.
So as we age, and especially inpeople with chronic conditions,
your mitochondria stink.
They just don't make as muchenergy Like your 10-year-old
self would have made a ton ofenergy in your cells compared to
(31:34):
yourself now.
So basically, when thosemitochondria do not function in
a healthy way anymore, likecancer can come out of that
metabolic diseases, like nothingin your cell is really
functioning quite right,Interesting.
So these will stimulate theenergy in your cells and it kind
of will fix everything.
So when people are like, what'sthe benefit?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
So it activates them.
Is that what it does?
It kind of activates them orstimulates them, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
It's like a recharge Interesting, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I would definitely want to try that one, I want it?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, obviously, yeah , I know.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Depends on the day.
Yeah, exactly, I wasn't veryelectrically charged after the
party.
Oh no, no, the next morningdefinitely not.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Well, that's when you need to do your IV therapy.
Then, exactly, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
You know, we're always hooking each other up, oh
, for sure.
We don't have our drink reallyhonestly.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
But we do it if we're not perfect okay, just making
sure just making sure 80 to 90percent okay so there's, there's
a 10, 20 that you're like verythat things are just off, not
gone.
It's not good.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Yeah, exactly honestly with these clients that
come through like I don't havethe measure food I don't have
it's.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
It's about Do you like cheesesteaks?
Let's just put that out there.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I do, but I have celiac, so I can't have gluten
yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So I know, yeah, yeah , you're not a lot of fun to be
with, are you Geez?
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
So no no bread.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, oh, you can drink wine though, right.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Oh, thank God, thank you for not taking that away
from me, obviously not too much,it's all in moderation.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, I'll tell you what this has been awesome.
Definitely have to have youguys back, because we talked for
33 minutes, believe it or not,and so we covered a lot.
But there's a lot of stuff wecan cover, I think on another
show and maybe you will be ableto do a little Botox on me the
next time we'll see either thator just get Hugo to do it.
I just don't know what else todo.
We'll bring Jess in here.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
We'll have to give you a couple drinks first.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Drinks and Botox.
What a combination.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Bubbly and Botox.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Bubbly and Botox.
I love it.
That's about it.
Thanks guys for coming in.
I really appreciate it.
Alright coming, I reallyappreciate it.
All right, there you have itskin sanctuary, med, spa and
integrative health, mary andjameika.
Man, what a great show that was.
I did not get botox done, butmaybe the next time I will.
We'll see.
But we weren't.
We learned a lot and, uh, Iknow some things I need to do.
I need to lift weights.
I gotta do some other things.
(33:59):
We'll see.
I'll see if we can fit it allin.
She says I can, but we'll see.
All right, that's about it.
See you every thursday at 7 pm,all right, good.
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