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From Policy to Pilates: Rewriting the Rules of Food, Fitness, and Fulfillment with Sebastian Lim
What happens when a public health professional trades spreadsheets and systems for sweat and soul work?
In this powerful and unexpected conversation, host Kristin Jones sits down with fitness coach Sebastian Lim, whose career pivot from healthcare policy to hands-on coaching reveals what it really takes to transform your relationship with food and movement. If you’ve ever felt trapped by emotional eating, confused by diet trends, or disconnected from your body, this episode will meet you where you are—and invite you to grow.
Sebastian’s journey is more than inspirational; it’s refreshingly honest. From navigating a five-year vegan lifestyle to launching a gender-inclusive Pilates brand, his insights push past conventional wellness wisdom and challenge us to embrace evolution—physically, mentally, and emotionally.
Top 5 Lessons from this Episode:
✨ Movement as Joy, Not Punishment – Learn why falling in love with how your body moves can be the antidote to emotional eating.
✨ You’re Allowed to Evolve – Sebastian’s personal shift from veganism to a more flexible diet reminds us that our bodies and needs change—and that’s okay.
✨ Food ≠ Emotional Support – Kristin and Sebastian unpack the idea that food should fuel, not comfort.
✨ Fitness is for Everyone – Discover how Sebastian’s new project Pilates Boys is breaking down gender barriers in movement spaces.
✨ Ditch the Rigidity – Whether it’s your meal plan or your workout routine, flexibility and authenticity matter more than perfection.
💡 Whether you're looking to heal your relationship with food, add more joy to your workouts, or simply give yourself permission to grow—this episode delivers.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Do you want to lose weight but struggle to stay
committed to a meal plan becauseyou constantly feel hungry?
Does food provide you comfortwhen you're bored, angry, lonely
or sad?
If so, you are in the rightplace.
My name is Kristen Jones andI'm a life coach specializing in
emotional eating and weightloss, and I'm also a lifelong
(00:24):
emotional eater.
I want to provide you withinformation, motivation and
support so you, too, can learnto manage your issues with food
and develop a healthyrelationship with yourself.
Welcome to the BreakthroughEmotional Eating Podcast.
(00:59):
My name is Kristen Jones andthank you so much for joining me
this week.
Now, you all know I like ahandsome man.
You know that talk about allthe time, Um, but this is an
especially cool handsome manthat's sitting next to me.
Uh, as you know, if you've beenfollowing the podcast, you know
that I have started doing moreinterviewing with the amazing
people that I know and work withat lifetime in Walnut Creek,
(01:23):
California, and I have reallybeen trying to just spotlight
the amazing things that mycoworkers are doing and that
they're doing not only just herein this club facility, but also
outside, and all the otherthings that they do that are
absolutely amazing.
So today I am going to beinterviewing this very handsome
(01:46):
gentleman sitting next to me.
He came to Lifetime, say, ninemonths ago yeah, yeah, about
nine months ago, and you don'teven know the story.
But before he came here, therewas talk about this new trainer
that was coming, this new guythat was coming, who was new guy
that was coming?
Who was from OTF, Orange Theoryno shade on Orange Theory, I'll
(02:09):
.
I'll mention them, Um, but theycoming from Orange Theory and
all I heard.
I didn't know who he was, but Iknow that one person referred
to you as Sebi and um and uhjust said he's amazing and he
will totally fit in, and I waslike, really Okay, let's just
see.
And he came and he did all thatand so much more.
(02:29):
So welcome to the podcast,Sebastian Lim.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Thank you, Kristen.
I'm honored and pleased to behere.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Absolutely so.
You have, as I mentioned,you've been at Lifetime for nine
months.
Yes, and tell me and theaudience a little bit more about
how you got into fitness, howyou got to coming here to
Lifetime.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, that's a great question.
It certainly has been a journey, because if you told me
honestly 10 years ago if I wasgoing to work full-time fitness,
I would have told you I don'tbelieve you, you're crazy, and
what are you talking about.
So my journey with fitness hasbeen a very interesting one.
Ever since I was a child, I wasalways enrolled in some sort of
(03:14):
sports team.
So I came up from a family ofimmigrants that you know my
dad's from Burma, myanmar, mymom's from Brazil.
So, like coming to Californiaand establishing roots in a
family here, they wanted me todo anything and everything to
succeed.
So, like great parents want,absolutely Focused on academics
(03:36):
but also was always involved insports.
So, no matter what I was eitheron a tennis team, basketball
team, something so I was alwaysinvolved in some form of
athletics, um, but that wasalways secondary to my education
.
Um, after I got my master'sdegree, um, in public health, um
(03:59):
, I entered the workforce.
I was working a nine to fivejob, you know, in healthcare.
You're loving that and you knowI truly am grateful for that
experience because it also ledme to here Absolutely, and at
the time my priorities were,okay, you know, work full time,
(04:23):
work full time in healthcare andthen maybe explore some side
gigs, cause I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I like being busy, I like moving my body, so it
sounds like sounds like me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And so right before the pandemic, I remember, you
know, I used to take lots offitness classes, like everywhere
you know, just to stay active,stay healthy, because I wanted
to, just, I mean, for aestheticreasons, for mental health
reasons, all of it.
And then, when COVID hit, I'msure everyone had like a form of
COVID crisis, like identitycrisis, and I thought to myself
(04:54):
well, you know, if I am going tobe working remotely at home
this whole time, I'm going toinvest in something that I
really want to do, and that wasget my certification in NASM and
try this fitness thing.
Started working for OrangeTheory part-time.
I was there for like three,three and a half years, loved it
(05:16):
, you know every single momentof it.
And then I thought to myself,why not try doing more?
Why not like make this mycareer?
It was one of the mostfear-inducing moments of my life
.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Absolutely so.
This, this was just recently.
This was probably within thelast year or a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, so lifetime is my first full-time
fitness career.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I did not know that, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's also like I did kind of like train like a friend
or a family here and there forpersonal training, but it's my
first full-time personaltraining, group fitness, career,
right and that's what I'm herefor, only income coming in.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yes, that's it.
Like you got to make it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So it was definitely a big risk, but I feel like I have gotten
more of a reward than I couldhave ever imagined Absolutely,
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So what so?
So, when you think back to whatyou did in corporate with, with
healthcare, I mean again, causeyou were in the health, in the
health field, it's so funny youhave a, I have a, my degree is
in health science and so, and,public health was really what
kind of got me interested ingoing into health science and
and and, and.
Then my first job outside of,outside of college as well what?
(06:30):
What do you feel you learnedfrom healthcare and from the
corporate environment that youthat is helping you now with
your time, your time at Lifetimeand running your own business?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I've thought about this a lot and honestly,
because when I studied publichealth, it's all about okay, you
know from a system level whathow can we make people healthier
?
How can we give people accessto healthy food?
How can we make theirenvironment more healthy?
How can we create policies sothat, you know, the population
as a whole can live happier,healthier life, right?
(07:04):
And the more that, the deeper Igot into my public health
career, the more disconnected Ibecame from the whole.
Reason why I wanted to go intopublic health was to help people
.
I know it sounds cliche, but Ijust like seeing people thrive,
you know, I just like seeingpeople thrive, you know.
And so entering fitness was myway of seeing and reconnecting
(07:30):
with that passion.
Because, you know, growing upit was either I was going to be
a doctor, lawyer or engineer,one of those three.
And then I said, oh, I likehelping people, okay, I'll be a
doctor.
But the biggest thing I reallylearned from that job and from
my degree is that, um, well,public health is absolutely
(07:51):
necessary.
It's also, um, you can makesuch a big impact on an
individual level and I thinkthat I have more to offer at
that individual and like grouplevel.
Um, health policy, cause, Istudied health policy and, um,
well, we have a very um, welloff, you know, uh, country.
(08:12):
At the same time, or, I feellike our system is failing in a
way um, lots of people and um,my only thought was okay, if we
can empower ourselves to becomefit, become healthy and to
create that autonomy, why not beable to share that with others?
Yeah, so, long story short.
(08:32):
I think the system that we haveright now, it's very convoluted
and almost unnecessarily, and Ithought to myself you know, why
not let people help themselvesbecome healthier, rather than
have some authoritarian you knowbody tell them how to be
healthy.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Right and mandate it Exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So what is so on on that line?
What is, what is a way, what'syour favorite way or the way
you're most passionate aboutpassing that information onto
your clients?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, honestly, it's just falling in love with
movement.
I think I didn't reallyunderstand that I fell in love
with movement until I did dancein college, and how much it
connects people and how muchmovement can be, you know,
enticing and freeing and, um anduh, forced to like, you know,
(09:26):
not only bring people together,but also, um, I don't know,
express yourself, right?
Um, so that's why I love likegroup fit classes, because you
have the community aspect,you're you're working out
together, but you're also likecheering each other on, you're
creating some common goal thatyou're working towards.
And um, so what I try to tellmy private clients, or what I
(09:47):
try to induce without you know,just saying directly I want them
to feel like they're successfuland feel like they fall in love
with working out rather thanfeel like it's a chore, right,
yeah, like we're here to havefun, we're here to, you know,
have the best hour of our day,right?
And whether it's me telling youto do a bicep curl or a pushup
(10:07):
or you coming, I want you tofeel like you're eager to come
in and do whatever is um on thedocket today, yeah, so I think
some of my most successfulclients are those that have seen
the most progress are the onesthat have fallen in love with it
.
Do things outside of our session, go to classes.
Come, you know, to our personaltraining session with like
(10:31):
eagerness, vigor, Um, and yeah,just fall in love with the
movement.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's awesome, so good, because because that is if
you're if it, if it's a chore,then the moment they stop seeing
you they're not going to bedoing it on their own, because
they're not, they're not getting.
They're not.
They're not, they're notlearning or feeling.
That intrinsic value of likethis really makes me feel good,
whether whether I see Sebastianor not.
I'm going to do this because itmakes me feel good, exactly,
(10:56):
and, and that's and that'salways what we want.
I mean, I know, for me with,with coaching, it's always been.
I don't, I never want people tobe dependent upon me.
I want you to.
I want to give you the tools to, to, to start to grow and love
what we're doing, and then youdo it on your own, and then you,
and then I give you the.
You know, I give you the toolsand then you have the power to
do that and so much more.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Absolutely.
It's just like changingpeople's perspective and it's to
make it, you know, somethingthat they love rather than
something that they feel likethey need to do.
We get to do this.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Absolutely, Absolutely so much.
So, when it comes to yourclasses here, yeah, I'm just
going to tell you, he teaches somany classes and I'm and I'm
not, I'm not, you know, in anyway hesitant to say he teaches
here.
He also teaches in anotherstudio in our town and teaches
very different classes.
(11:42):
They're very different than wedon't even have the same classes
here.
How many different disciplines,different types of classes do
you teach?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Oh, that's a great question.
Okay, I didn't even count in myhead, let's see.
At least I want to say six, six, yeah.
So I teach cycle, I teachPilates, I teach like strength
training circuit classes, Iteach like a cardio trampoline
(12:12):
class.
Yes, very good for yourlymphatic system.
Okay, very good for.
Yeah, very good for cardio, lowimpact cardio and lymphatic
drainage, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So this is just funny .
As a side note.
My mom had one of those littletrampolines.
I don't know if you all haveseen those little trampoline
things that they have.
My mom back in the 70s she hadone, and, oh yeah, I was doing
it.
I was probably it was in the80s.
In the 80s I was in high school.
I did it on my own at home.
I didn't even know what I wasdoing.
I was like, why do we have thisthing?
It's kind of fun, though, and Iwould jump around it and I'd be
like sweating.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, it was great.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
It's just making a resurgence.
Oh, it's amazing.
It's amazing and I, I, I thinkit's great that you're, that
you're teaching, okay, so thatone, the trampoline class, and
then here you're doing y'all.
He teaches our Aurora classesand our Aurora classes are 65,
60, 65, 55 and over classes.
(13:06):
There are older, our olderpopulation here at the club and
I teach one and Sebastianteaches one, and they talk on
and on about him.
Oh, my God, he's just, he's sotough, but he's just so nice, so
nice to look at.
They are not afraid.
Those ladies are not afraid tosay it he's really nice to look
at.
They are not afraid.
Those ladies are not afraid tosay he's really nice to look at.
(13:27):
They're killing me, they'reawesome.
It keeps them coming back.
Absolutely.
What's your favorite?
My favorite, your favoriteclass to teach.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh man, I mean, they're all so different and
that's why I love doing all ofthem.
I love teaching boxing.
That's one discipline I didn'tsay I love teaching boxing.
It's still relatively newercompared to some of the other
things that I've been doing, butI love the energy of it.
I love the yeah, I mean, eversince I was a little kid I would
like play, fight and watchJackie Chan movies and like fall
(13:57):
in love with, like all sorts ofmartial arts.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I am.
So how long have you been doingthat?
Because it like watching youteach is.
I mean, I've seen your videoswatching you teaching and I've
seen you do some stuff here.
It seems like you've beenteaching forever.
It seems very like very naturaland very intuitive.
So how, how long has it been?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Actually for coaching some boxing specifically.
It's only been like a year anda half, oh, wow, okay, yeah, no
year and a half, okay.
Year and a half, oh, wow, okay,yeah, no year and a half, okay,
yeah, closer to two years.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, that's amazing.
I love it.
I love the energy of it and Ilove how it empowers people Like
I teach my Aurora class like aversion of kickboxing and they
love that.
They're like more boxing.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh yeah, More kickboxing oh.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I'm sure it's just so cool because it's so yeah, it's
so empowering and, um, it justlooks cool.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, exactly, um, you just recently we were
talking about this before I toldthem I was going to mention
this you just recently changedyour Instagram handle.
You were the slim herbivoreherbivore You're now Fit Coach
Seb.
Yes, okay, so, and I hadrecently asked him and said
something like, oh, you're avegetarian, right?
And he was like I used to be,and I was like, wait a minute,
we got to talk about that.
So tell us all about one.
(15:19):
You were either vegetarian orvegan, and then now you are not.
So I'd love to hear, because oneof the things that I really
want to do on this podcast isgiving people an opportunity and
a platform for people to talkabout the different ways that
they nourish their bodies andthe different ways that they eat
.
Yes, my podcast is aboutemotional eating, but I think
it's so important that we beeating the way we want to be
(15:41):
eating and also the way thatfeels right for our bodies, and
so, whatever that looks like, itdoesn't really matter, but I
but I want to expose people toas much of that as I as we can.
So tell us about your, tell usabout your food journey and
where you are now.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Absolutely so.
I made a very consciousdecision to go plant based or
vegan back in 2020, I want tosay so, like before even the
pandemic happened and part ofthe decision was it kind of
built up over time.
There was a lot of researchgoing out at the time about how
(16:15):
plant-based diets from likebooks and podcasts that I've
read, movies, I've watcheddocumentaries, everything how
positively it impacts yourhealth and the environment.
So I thought, you know, nobrainer, why not try this
plant-based thing?
And it naturally stuck, justbecause I was already mildly
(16:37):
lactose intolerant and didn'tnecessarily, at the time, enjoy
any sort of animal products.
So I said I'm going to try it,no expectation, let's see how
long it lasts.
Stuck with it for like fiveyears yeah, five years and then,
more recently actually, when Istarted this career, went back
(16:59):
to eating animal products again.
Part of it was that well, well,I, it's it's all trade-offs,
right, like it's um, I.
I enjoyed and adored, likecreating and following new
recipes on how to, you know, eata vegan diet while still
getting enough protein andenough nutrition.
(17:20):
Um, and while that was a fun,welcome challenge while I was
working from home as a busyindividual that's never home
anymore.
It is very challenging, and so,to all the vegans and
vegetarians out there, I applaudyou.
Hats off to you, because ittakes a lot of planning and
(17:41):
discipline to navigate that.
There's a lot more options now,but part of opening up my diet
back to animal-based products,part of it was just because my
lifestyle changed and over time,the reason why I changed my
Instagram handle too, wasbecause, actually, when I
started my whole fitness journey, I thought, okay, I'm going to
(18:02):
be specifically a vegan coachand help people navigate that,
and then my fitness career likethat aspect kind of blossomed.
And so it was.
It was also kind of achallenging decision to see,
like how do I uncouple myidentity from that?
And yes, you are what you eat,but at the same time, like, we
(18:28):
change, we evolve, and my bodyhas so far responded totally
okay to animal-based products,and so I thought to myself, why
restrict myself?
Another big reason was, as Iwas eating more plant-based
foods, I noticed that I waseating a lot of processed foods
(18:51):
and because nowadays there'svegan everything Oreos are vegan
, right, right, but are theyhealthy?
I don't think so.
And so vegan and vegetarianismand health when I first did it,
I thought, oh, that's thehealthiest thing you could do,
but that's not necessarily true.
You have to work hard.
You have to work hard for it.
So yeah, it was just uncouplingthat idea that that was the
(19:16):
only way to be healthy.
But it's not true.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, right, and it's funny I don't talk about it.
I don't talk about it much onthe podcast, but I was vegan,
for for probably I've gone andbeen in various stages, for you
know, six, eight months at atime, and then and then.
But but I what I found was Ididn't like the idea of having
to eat so much processed food,having to eat things that I
(19:40):
couldn't read, I didn't knowwhat the names were, and there
were things that were like, ifI'm going to get a really good
solid protein and I'm going toeat seitan, it's like okay, well
, that has all sorts of funkystuff that I can't, I don't know
what it is, and I would rathereat something that I know
exactly what it is and I knowexactly where it's come from, as
opposed to just eating thosechemical things.
(20:01):
And so that's kind of alwaysbeen my and it's not been my
objection to it, but it's alwaysbeen the thing that's like I
really am not that comfortablewith that aspect of it.
So I totally agree, I totallyagree with you on that.
But I think, but it'sinteresting to see how different
our bodies respond to differentthings and how our bodies can
feel, and I think also over time.
(20:22):
With age, things change andsometimes our bodies need more
protein.
And sometimes I have a friendwho's a vegan and she's a vegan
triathlete and she has to workreally hard to get her protein
but she does.
But she really stays away fromprocessed stuff, but she knows
how to do the combinations.
Like girl, how do you have thetime to do that?
There's a lot to it.
(20:43):
So I just think that, again,lots of opportunities, lots of
different things that people cando.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Absolutely yeah, and I think that's the biggest
lesson that I learned.
It's like I gave myselfpermission to be okay, to evolve
and change and I was veryworried that like, okay, once I
go vegan, if I go back, then youknow, I don't know the online
community.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
What will people say?
What will people say Right?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Like but it's, it's okay, Cause people evolve and we
evolve.
And yeah, like you said, listento your body.
And I guess one more note I Ijust always think in my head
yeah, have you read MichaelPollan's book?
I mean he has multiple books,but In Defense of Food, no, I
haven't Such a good book.
I read that back in my gradschool program.
I mean the tagline is justsuper simple, like eat food not
(21:32):
too much, mostly plants.
And that kind of um led myjourney both in and out of um
veganism Cause it's notnecessarily he wasn't advocating
necessarily for veganism, butrather just eat whole based
foods, whole food, yeah, I meanit's fine to indulge a little
bit.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Oh, absolutely Absolutely no, and that's always
been my, it's always been mything is it's like everything,
everything in moderation,including moderation, but it's
it's more about.
It's about listening to yourbody, Cause our bodies know what
it what they need.
Um, sometimes our mind doesn'tknow what we need, but you know,
we, we, we think we needsomething, Um, but it's just
better to listen, really listento your body and and, and not
(22:14):
let other things influence.
You know, food is just food.
It doesn't need to be a bestfriend, it doesn't need to be a
warm hug, it doesn't need to be,you know, something that makes
you not feel lonely, and sothat's really it's.
It's it's removing it andtaking it back to what it's
really intended to do, which isintended to nourish us, give us
energy to do what we need to do.
Amen, so, yeah, Amen.
(22:34):
So you, recently, so we.
When I first started my Pilatestraining, my original Pilates
training, in January of thisyear, I started right.
I started training for itbefore I had my accident.
Then I had my accident, Then Iwas.
I had to stop it.
Sebastian was in my Pilateslittle cohort who did the
training.
He finished in April andstarted teaching Pilates on the
(22:58):
reformer full not full-time, butas a part of your personal
training, and you also started abusiness around Pilates.
So please share what you havedone with our mutual friend
Daniel, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, so myself and my coworker, daniel, started a
business called Pilates Boys.
And it's funny because itreally came from a conversation,
like he had the original idea.
He was talking to a client andhe was kind of joking like, hey,
you know what, if I started,you know, like a Pilates sock
business and then call itPilates boys, and then he asked
(23:33):
me you know, because we were theonly two men that were in the
training um, you know, wouldn'tthat be a cool idea?
And then we kept talking aboutthe idea of Pilates boys and, uh
, it really intrigued me because, uh, one I was very.
I am still learning so much, um, from the discipline yeah.
(23:54):
And, uh, after going through thetraining and I know you're
going through the training rightnow like learning about the
history is so interestingbecause it's like, um, in
current culture, at least on thesurface, it looks like oh, and
I know a lot of, I'm guessing alot of men think, oh, pil
Pilates is for women, for girls,for dancers, because it got
(24:17):
really popular in New York withNew York City ballet dancers.
But it was a disciplineoriginally created from Joseph
Pilates, who was a war vet,previously a boxer, and he was,
you know, jerry-rigging hospitalbeds to help rehabilitate
soldiers in the war, right,right, and it's like, wow, it
(24:37):
has this really, you know,interesting history.
That's so, I would say,different from what it evolved
into.
And so the whole idea was we'regoing to create a Pilates sock
business, one to create a highquality sock, because there's a
lot in the market that are not.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Are they going to be for women?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
No, for everyone, for everyone, okay, okay, so the
whole idea.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I knew socks, I just didn't know what.
It was limited Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes, so, even though it's called Pilates Boys, the
whole ethos of the business isto really open up Pilates for
anyone, because Pilates is foreveryone.
It is such a cool discipline andsystem to help strengthen
yourself from the inside out Imean, not only makes you
flexible, but also stable andalso, you know, it makes you
(25:30):
grow taller, right, and our ideawas, you know how, do try to um
create this idea where pilatesisn't just, um, female oriented
and it's really for everyone.
And so we want to open it up,especially to the idea that, for
men and boys, like this is adiscipline that you can
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participate into and thrive intoand are invited into.
I actually saw a semi-recentarticle of someone attending a
Pilates class I think it was inNew York or something like that
and it was a woman that was kindof, I guess, complaining to a
journalist that there was oneguy in the room that was, you
(26:12):
know, kind of in, uh, beingintrusive in this, you know,
primarily female class, and Ithought to myself that's really
interesting, cause, you know, Ithought it would be more
inclusive, right, right, we justwant it to be inclusive.
We want Pilates to, you know,not feel like a discipline that
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is just gender specific and sowe're kind of we kind of created
that idea and that name likehey, pilates boys do you see
that every day, and social mediaand stuff like that.
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Right, right, so it's , it's essentially, it's.
It's the socks or the vehicleto to unite everyone in Pilates,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I love that.
I love that.
So, uh, when I know you're inthe midst of of finding a
manufacturer for the socks andyou have some designs and things
like that.
So when do you think these willbe available to the public?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So date is to be determined.
But we do have social mediathat we're trying to ramp up
right now and we're building ourwebsite right now so you can
see all of the uh evolution ofthe business happening.
Uh, pilates underscore boys.
So you have that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Okay, I'll mark that down Pilates underscore boys and
I'll have I'll have all theinformation in the show notes so
you can follow them on.
I know you do have an Instagramyes, yes, they have an
Instagram and um, you can getall that, get all of that
information, um, as well.
So I would love for a.
Where would you like things togo in your, in your businesses,
(27:45):
when it comes to um?
You know just your growth andyour development as as a trainer
, as a Pilates instructor,fitness fitness, you know
influencer, what would you what?
Where would you like this, thiswhole adventure, to go to?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, I mean I would love to you know, start taking
private clients, maybe onlineclients, expand.
You know where I can create animpact in any of those
disciplines and I think it wouldbe really cool telling you
earlier about building afacility that crosses a lot of
those disciplines, notnecessarily putting them in
(28:20):
isolation.
But what if you did like aboxing Pilates fusion class?
Or what if we did like somesort of swimming strength
training class?
I love doing all thesedisciplines because I see the
differences and alsosimilarities between all of them
.
So maybe opening up a gym orsomething, or or at least having
(28:41):
some some way to expand umonline clientele, in-person
clientele, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
So if people want to connect with you, um, how, and
I'll put it, I'll put it on theshow notes, but, uh, will you
tell them how?
How would they?
How would they want to get intouch with you If anybody wanted
to connect with you when itcame to personal training or any
of those things, whetherthey're here in the area or you
know, or outside of the area?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Absolutely so.
My Instagram is probably mymost um utilized channel.
Um fit underscore.
Coach underscore Seb S E B S EB fit underscore coach.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Underscore Seb S-E-B, s-e-b fit underscore coach.
Underscore Seb Perfect, andwe'll put all the information.
If you have your websiteaddress, we can get all that
information out as well.
Yes, we'll do Thank you so muchfor spending this time and
sharing with the audience allthe things that you've learned.
I think it's interestingbecause we both had that same
(29:37):
experience of doing somethingthat we were really passionate
about, but it didn't actuallyturn out the way we wanted it to
, and so sometimes we have topivot in a lot of ways and you
pivot and you make a differentdecision, and who knows what
other decisions are coming downthe way, but we have to be open
to it, exactly.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I hope that you all enjoyed myinterview with Sebastian.
(29:58):
I'm sure you did and gotsomething out of it.
I would love for you to sharethis episode with someone that
you know that you think wouldbenefit from it, and please
connect with him on Instagram,and all the information will be
in the show notes andinformation about the Pilates
boys as well.
I love the idea of makingPilates available to everybody.
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Thank you for listening to thisweek's episode.
If you are interested inlearning more about how I can
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this week.
Now, you all know I like ahandsome man.
You know that talk about allthe time, Um, but this is an
especially cool handsome manthat's sitting next to me.
Uh, as you know, if you've beenfollowing the podcast, you know
that I have started doing moreinterviewing with the amazing
people that I know and work withat lifetime in Walnut Creek,
(01:23):
California, and I have reallybeen trying to just spotlight
the amazing things that mycoworkers are doing and that
they're doing not only just herein this club facility, but also
outside, and all the otherthings that they do that are
absolutely amazing.
So today I am going to beinterviewing this very handsome
(01:46):
gentleman sitting next to me.
He came to Lifetime, say, ninemonths ago yeah, yeah, about
nine months ago, and you don'teven know the story.
But before he came here, therewas talk about this new trainer
that was coming, this new guythat was coming, who was new guy
that was coming?
Who was from OTF, Orange Theoryno shade on Orange Theory, I'll
(02:09):
.
I'll mention them, Um, but theycoming from Orange Theory and
all I heard.
I didn't know who he was, but Iknow that one person referred
to you as Sebi and um and uhjust said he's amazing and he
will totally fit in, and I waslike, really Okay, let's just
see.
And he came and he did all thatand so much more.
(02:29):
So welcome to the podcast,Sebastian Lim.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Thank you, Kristen.
I'm honored and pleased to behere.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Absolutely so.
You have, as I mentioned,you've been at Lifetime for nine
months.
Yes, and tell me and theaudience a little bit more about
how you got into fitness, howyou got to coming here to
Lifetime.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, that's a great question.
It certainly has been a journey, because if you told me
honestly 10 years ago if I wasgoing to work full-time fitness,
I would have told you I don'tbelieve you, you're crazy, and
what are you talking about.
So my journey with fitness hasbeen a very interesting one.
Ever since I was a child, I wasalways enrolled in some sort of
(03:14):
sports team.
So I came up from a family ofimmigrants that you know my
dad's from Burma, myanmar, mymom's from Brazil.
So, like coming to Californiaand establishing roots in a
family here, they wanted me todo anything and everything to
succeed.
So, like great parents want,absolutely Focused on academics
(03:36):
but also was always involved insports.
So, no matter what I was eitheron a tennis team, basketball
team, something so I was alwaysinvolved in some form of
athletics, um, but that wasalways secondary to my education
.
Um, after I got my master'sdegree, um, in public health, um
(03:59):
, I entered the workforce.
I was working a nine to fivejob, you know, in healthcare.
You're loving that and you knowI truly am grateful for that
experience because it also ledme to here Absolutely, and at
the time my priorities were,okay, you know, work full time,
(04:23):
work full time in healthcare andthen maybe explore some side
gigs, cause I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I like being busy, I like moving my body, so it
sounds like sounds like me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And so right before the pandemic, I remember, you
know, I used to take lots offitness classes, like everywhere
you know, just to stay active,stay healthy, because I wanted
to, just, I mean, for aestheticreasons, for mental health
reasons, all of it.
And then, when COVID hit, I'msure everyone had like a form of
COVID crisis, like identitycrisis, and I thought to myself
(04:54):
well, you know, if I am going tobe working remotely at home
this whole time, I'm going toinvest in something that I
really want to do, and that wasget my certification in NASM and
try this fitness thing.
Started working for OrangeTheory part-time.
I was there for like three,three and a half years, loved it
(05:16):
, you know every single momentof it.
And then I thought to myself,why not try doing more?
Why not like make this mycareer?
It was one of the mostfear-inducing moments of my life
.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Absolutely so.
This, this was just recently.
This was probably within thelast year or a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, so lifetime is my first full-time
fitness career.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I did not know that, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It's also like I did kind of like train like a friend
or a family here and there forpersonal training, but it's my
first full-time personaltraining, group fitness, career,
right and that's what I'm herefor, only income coming in.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yes, that's it.
Like you got to make it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So it was definitely a big risk, but I feel like I have gotten
more of a reward than I couldhave ever imagined Absolutely,
absolutely.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So what so?
So, when you think back to whatyou did in corporate with, with
healthcare, I mean again, causeyou were in the health, in the
health field, it's so funny youhave a, I have a, my degree is
in health science and so, and,public health was really what
kind of got me interested ingoing into health science and
and and, and.
Then my first job outside of,outside of college as well what?
(06:30):
What do you feel you learnedfrom healthcare and from the
corporate environment that youthat is helping you now with
your time, your time at Lifetimeand running your own business?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I've thought about this a lot and honestly,
because when I studied publichealth, it's all about okay, you
know from a system level whathow can we make people healthier
?
How can we give people accessto healthy food?
How can we make theirenvironment more healthy?
How can we create policies sothat, you know, the population
as a whole can live happier,healthier life, right?
(07:04):
And the more that, the deeper Igot into my public health
career, the more disconnected Ibecame from the whole.
Reason why I wanted to go intopublic health was to help people
.
I know it sounds cliche, but Ijust like seeing people thrive,
you know, I just like seeingpeople thrive, you know.
And so entering fitness was myway of seeing and reconnecting
(07:30):
with that passion.
Because, you know, growing upit was either I was going to be
a doctor, lawyer or engineer,one of those three.
And then I said, oh, I likehelping people, okay, I'll be a
doctor.
But the biggest thing I reallylearned from that job and from
my degree is that, um, well,public health is absolutely
(07:51):
necessary.
It's also, um, you can makesuch a big impact on an
individual level and I thinkthat I have more to offer at
that individual and like grouplevel.
Um, health policy, cause, Istudied health policy and, um,
well, we have a very um, welloff, you know, uh, country.
(08:12):
At the same time, or, I feellike our system is failing in a
way um, lots of people and um,my only thought was okay, if we
can empower ourselves to becomefit, become healthy and to
create that autonomy, why not beable to share that with others?
Yeah, so, long story short.
(08:32):
I think the system that we haveright now, it's very convoluted
and almost unnecessarily, and Ithought to myself you know, why
not let people help themselvesbecome healthier, rather than
have some authoritarian you knowbody tell them how to be
healthy.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Right and mandate it Exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So what is so on on that line?
What is, what is a way, what'syour favorite way or the way
you're most passionate aboutpassing that information onto
your clients?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, honestly, it's just falling in love with
movement.
I think I didn't reallyunderstand that I fell in love
with movement until I did dancein college, and how much it
connects people and how muchmovement can be, you know,
enticing and freeing and, um anduh, forced to like, you know,
(09:26):
not only bring people together,but also, um, I don't know,
express yourself, right?
Um, so that's why I love likegroup fit classes, because you
have the community aspect,you're you're working out
together, but you're also likecheering each other on, you're
creating some common goal thatyou're working towards.
And um, so what I try to tellmy private clients, or what I
(09:47):
try to induce without you know,just saying directly I want them
to feel like they're successfuland feel like they fall in love
with working out rather thanfeel like it's a chore, right,
yeah, like we're here to havefun, we're here to, you know,
have the best hour of our day,right?
And whether it's me telling youto do a bicep curl or a pushup
(10:07):
or you coming, I want you tofeel like you're eager to come
in and do whatever is um on thedocket today, yeah, so I think
some of my most successfulclients are those that have seen
the most progress are the onesthat have fallen in love with it
.
Do things outside of our session, go to classes.
Come, you know, to our personaltraining session with like
(10:31):
eagerness, vigor, Um, and yeah,just fall in love with the
movement.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
That's awesome, so good, because because that is if
you're if it, if it's a chore,then the moment they stop seeing
you they're not going to bedoing it on their own, because
they're not, they're not getting.
They're not.
They're not, they're notlearning or feeling.
That intrinsic value of likethis really makes me feel good,
whether whether I see Sebastianor not.
I'm going to do this because itmakes me feel good, exactly,
(10:56):
and, and that's and that'salways what we want.
I mean, I know, for me with,with coaching, it's always been.
I don't, I never want people tobe dependent upon me.
I want you to.
I want to give you the tools to, to, to start to grow and love
what we're doing, and then youdo it on your own, and then you,
and then I give you the.
You know, I give you the toolsand then you have the power to
do that and so much more.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Absolutely.
It's just like changingpeople's perspective and it's to
make it, you know, somethingthat they love rather than
something that they feel likethey need to do.
We get to do this.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Absolutely, Absolutely so much.
So, when it comes to yourclasses here, yeah, I'm just
going to tell you, he teaches somany classes and I'm and I'm
not, I'm not, you know, in anyway hesitant to say he teaches
here.
He also teaches in anotherstudio in our town and teaches
very different classes.
(11:42):
They're very different than wedon't even have the same classes
here.
How many different disciplines,different types of classes do
you teach?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Oh, that's a great question.
Okay, I didn't even count in myhead, let's see.
At least I want to say six, six, yeah.
So I teach cycle, I teachPilates, I teach like strength
training circuit classes, Iteach like a cardio trampoline
(12:12):
class.
Yes, very good for yourlymphatic system.
Okay, very good for.
Yeah, very good for cardio, lowimpact cardio and lymphatic
drainage, which is amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So this is just funny .
As a side note.
My mom had one of those littletrampolines.
I don't know if you all haveseen those little trampoline
things that they have.
My mom back in the 70s she hadone, and, oh yeah, I was doing
it.
I was probably it was in the80s.
In the 80s I was in high school.
I did it on my own at home.
I didn't even know what I wasdoing.
I was like, why do we have thisthing?
It's kind of fun, though, and Iwould jump around it and I'd be
like sweating.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, it was great.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
It's just making a resurgence.
Oh, it's amazing.
It's amazing and I, I, I thinkit's great that you're, that
you're teaching, okay, so thatone, the trampoline class, and
then here you're doing y'all.
He teaches our Aurora classesand our Aurora classes are 65,
60, 65, 55 and over classes.
(13:06):
There are older, our olderpopulation here at the club and
I teach one and Sebastianteaches one, and they talk on
and on about him.
Oh, my God, he's just, he's sotough, but he's just so nice, so
nice to look at.
They are not afraid.
Those ladies are not afraid tosay it he's really nice to look
at.
They are not afraid.
Those ladies are not afraid tosay he's really nice to look at.
(13:27):
They're killing me, they'reawesome.
It keeps them coming back.
Absolutely.
What's your favorite?
My favorite, your favoriteclass to teach.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Oh man, I mean, they're all so different and
that's why I love doing all ofthem.
I love teaching boxing.
That's one discipline I didn'tsay I love teaching boxing.
It's still relatively newercompared to some of the other
things that I've been doing, butI love the energy of it.
I love the yeah, I mean, eversince I was a little kid I would
like play, fight and watchJackie Chan movies and like fall
(13:57):
in love with, like all sorts ofmartial arts.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I am.
So how long have you been doingthat?
Because it like watching youteach is.
I mean, I've seen your videoswatching you teaching and I've
seen you do some stuff here.
It seems like you've beenteaching forever.
It seems very like very naturaland very intuitive.
So how, how long has it been?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Actually for coaching some boxing specifically.
It's only been like a year anda half, oh, wow, okay, yeah, no
year and a half, okay.
Year and a half, oh, wow, okay,yeah, no year and a half, okay,
yeah, closer to two years.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, that's amazing.
I love it.
I love the energy of it and Ilove how it empowers people Like
I teach my Aurora class like aversion of kickboxing and they
love that.
They're like more boxing.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh yeah, More kickboxing oh.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I'm sure it's just so cool because it's so yeah, it's
so empowering and, um, it justlooks cool.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, exactly, um, you just recently we were
talking about this before I toldthem I was going to mention
this you just recently changedyour Instagram handle.
You were the slim herbivoreherbivore You're now Fit Coach
Seb.
Yes, okay, so, and I hadrecently asked him and said
something like, oh, you're avegetarian, right?
And he was like I used to be,and I was like, wait a minute,
we got to talk about that.
So tell us all about one.
(15:19):
You were either vegetarian orvegan, and then now you are not.
So I'd love to hear, because oneof the things that I really
want to do on this podcast isgiving people an opportunity and
a platform for people to talkabout the different ways that
they nourish their bodies andthe different ways that they eat
.
Yes, my podcast is aboutemotional eating, but I think
it's so important that we beeating the way we want to be
(15:41):
eating and also the way thatfeels right for our bodies, and
so, whatever that looks like, itdoesn't really matter, but I
but I want to expose people toas much of that as I as we can.
So tell us about your, tell usabout your food journey and
where you are now.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Absolutely so.
I made a very consciousdecision to go plant based or
vegan back in 2020, I want tosay so, like before even the
pandemic happened and part ofthe decision was it kind of
built up over time.
There was a lot of researchgoing out at the time about how
(16:15):
plant-based diets from likebooks and podcasts that I've
read, movies, I've watcheddocumentaries, everything how
positively it impacts yourhealth and the environment.
So I thought, you know, nobrainer, why not try this
plant-based thing?
And it naturally stuck, justbecause I was already mildly
(16:37):
lactose intolerant and didn'tnecessarily, at the time, enjoy
any sort of animal products.
So I said I'm going to try it,no expectation, let's see how
long it lasts.
Stuck with it for like fiveyears yeah, five years and then,
more recently actually, when Istarted this career, went back
(16:59):
to eating animal products again.
Part of it was that well, well,I, it's it's all trade-offs,
right, like it's um, I.
I enjoyed and adored, likecreating and following new
recipes on how to, you know, eata vegan diet while still
getting enough protein andenough nutrition.
(17:20):
Um, and while that was a fun,welcome challenge while I was
working from home as a busyindividual that's never home
anymore.
It is very challenging, and so,to all the vegans and
vegetarians out there, I applaudyou.
Hats off to you, because ittakes a lot of planning and
(17:41):
discipline to navigate that.
There's a lot more options now,but part of opening up my diet
back to animal-based products,part of it was just because my
lifestyle changed and over time,the reason why I changed my
Instagram handle too, wasbecause, actually, when I
started my whole fitness journey, I thought, okay, I'm going to
(18:02):
be specifically a vegan coachand help people navigate that,
and then my fitness career likethat aspect kind of blossomed.
And so it was.
It was also kind of achallenging decision to see,
like how do I uncouple myidentity from that?
And yes, you are what you eat,but at the same time, like, we
(18:28):
change, we evolve, and my bodyhas so far responded totally
okay to animal-based products,and so I thought to myself, why
restrict myself?
Another big reason was, as Iwas eating more plant-based
foods, I noticed that I waseating a lot of processed foods
(18:51):
and because nowadays there'svegan everything Oreos are vegan
, right, right, but are theyhealthy?
I don't think so.
And so vegan and vegetarianismand health when I first did it,
I thought, oh, that's thehealthiest thing you could do,
but that's not necessarily true.
You have to work hard.
You have to work hard for it.
So yeah, it was just uncouplingthat idea that that was the
(19:16):
only way to be healthy.
But it's not true.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, right, and it's funny I don't talk about it.
I don't talk about it much onthe podcast, but I was vegan,
for for probably I've gone andbeen in various stages, for you
know, six, eight months at atime, and then and then.
But but I what I found was Ididn't like the idea of having
to eat so much processed food,having to eat things that I
(19:40):
couldn't read, I didn't knowwhat the names were, and there
were things that were like, ifI'm going to get a really good
solid protein and I'm going toeat seitan, it's like okay, well
, that has all sorts of funkystuff that I can't, I don't know
what it is, and I would rathereat something that I know
exactly what it is and I knowexactly where it's come from, as
opposed to just eating thosechemical things.
(20:01):
And so that's kind of alwaysbeen my and it's not been my
objection to it, but it's alwaysbeen the thing that's like I
really am not that comfortablewith that aspect of it.
So I totally agree, I totallyagree with you on that.
But I think, but it'sinteresting to see how different
our bodies respond to differentthings and how our bodies can
feel, and I think also over time.
(20:22):
With age, things change andsometimes our bodies need more
protein.
And sometimes I have a friendwho's a vegan and she's a vegan
triathlete and she has to workreally hard to get her protein
but she does.
But she really stays away fromprocessed stuff, but she knows
how to do the combinations.
Like girl, how do you have thetime to do that?
There's a lot to it.
(20:43):
So I just think that, again,lots of opportunities, lots of
different things that people cando.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Absolutely yeah, and I think that's the biggest
lesson that I learned.
It's like I gave myselfpermission to be okay, to evolve
and change and I was veryworried that like, okay, once I
go vegan, if I go back, then youknow, I don't know the online
community.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
What will people say?
What will people say Right?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Like but it's, it's okay, Cause people evolve and we
evolve.
And yeah, like you said, listento your body.
And I guess one more note I Ijust always think in my head
yeah, have you read MichaelPollan's book?
I mean he has multiple books,but In Defense of Food, no, I
haven't Such a good book.
I read that back in my gradschool program.
I mean the tagline is justsuper simple, like eat food not
(21:32):
too much, mostly plants.
And that kind of um led myjourney both in and out of um
veganism Cause it's notnecessarily he wasn't advocating
necessarily for veganism, butrather just eat whole based
foods, whole food, yeah, I meanit's fine to indulge a little
bit.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Oh, absolutely Absolutely no, and that's always
been my, it's always been mything is it's like everything,
everything in moderation,including moderation, but it's
it's more about.
It's about listening to yourbody, Cause our bodies know what
it what they need.
Um, sometimes our mind doesn'tknow what we need, but you know,
we, we, we think we needsomething, Um, but it's just
better to listen, really listento your body and and, and not
(22:14):
let other things influence.
You know, food is just food.
It doesn't need to be a bestfriend, it doesn't need to be a
warm hug, it doesn't need to be,you know, something that makes
you not feel lonely, and sothat's really it's.
It's it's removing it andtaking it back to what it's
really intended to do, which isintended to nourish us, give us
energy to do what we need to do.
Amen, so, yeah, Amen.
(22:34):
So you, recently, so we.
When I first started my Pilatestraining, my original Pilates
training, in January of thisyear, I started right.
I started training for itbefore I had my accident.
Then I had my accident, Then Iwas.
I had to stop it.
Sebastian was in my Pilateslittle cohort who did the
training.
He finished in April andstarted teaching Pilates on the
(22:58):
reformer full not full-time, butas a part of your personal
training, and you also started abusiness around Pilates.
So please share what you havedone with our mutual friend
Daniel, Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, so myself and my coworker, daniel, started a
business called Pilates Boys.
And it's funny because itreally came from a conversation,
like he had the original idea.
He was talking to a client andhe was kind of joking like, hey,
you know what, if I started,you know, like a Pilates sock
business and then call itPilates boys, and then he asked
(23:33):
me you know, because we were theonly two men that were in the
training um, you know, wouldn'tthat be a cool idea?
And then we kept talking aboutthe idea of Pilates boys and, uh
, it really intrigued me because, uh, one I was very.
I am still learning so much, um, from the discipline yeah.
(23:54):
And, uh, after going through thetraining and I know you're
going through the training rightnow like learning about the
history is so interestingbecause it's like, um, in
current culture, at least on thesurface, it looks like oh, and
I know a lot of, I'm guessing alot of men think, oh, pil
Pilates is for women, for girls,for dancers, because it got
(24:17):
really popular in New York withNew York City ballet dancers.
But it was a disciplineoriginally created from Joseph
Pilates, who was a war vet,previously a boxer, and he was,
you know, jerry-rigging hospitalbeds to help rehabilitate
soldiers in the war, right,right, and it's like, wow, it
(24:37):
has this really, you know,interesting history.
That's so, I would say,different from what it evolved
into.
And so the whole idea was we'regoing to create a Pilates sock
business, one to create a highquality sock, because there's a
lot in the market that are not.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Are they going to be for women?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
No, for everyone, for everyone, okay, okay, so the
whole idea.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I knew socks, I just didn't know what.
It was limited Okay.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yes, so, even though it's called Pilates Boys, the
whole ethos of the business isto really open up Pilates for
anyone, because Pilates is foreveryone.
It is such a cool discipline andsystem to help strengthen
yourself from the inside out Imean, not only makes you
flexible, but also stable andalso, you know, it makes you
(25:30):
grow taller, right, and our ideawas, you know how, do try to um
create this idea where pilatesisn't just, um, female oriented
and it's really for everyone.
And so we want to open it up,especially to the idea that, for
men and boys, like this is adiscipline that you can
(25:51):
participate into and thrive intoand are invited into.
I actually saw a semi-recentarticle of someone attending a
Pilates class I think it was inNew York or something like that
and it was a woman that was kindof, I guess, complaining to a
journalist that there was oneguy in the room that was, you
(26:12):
know, kind of in, uh, beingintrusive in this, you know,
primarily female class, and Ithought to myself that's really
interesting, cause, you know, Ithought it would be more
inclusive, right, right, we justwant it to be inclusive.
We want Pilates to, you know,not feel like a discipline that
(26:33):
is just gender specific and sowe're kind of we kind of created
that idea and that name likehey, pilates boys do you see
that every day, and social mediaand stuff like that.
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Right, right, so it's , it's essentially, it's.
It's the socks or the vehicleto to unite everyone in Pilates,
absolutely.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I love that.
I love that.
So, uh, when I know you're inthe midst of of finding a
manufacturer for the socks andyou have some designs and things
like that.
So when do you think these willbe available to the public?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So date is to be determined.
But we do have social mediathat we're trying to ramp up
right now and we're building ourwebsite right now so you can
see all of the uh evolution ofthe business happening.
Uh, pilates underscore boys.
So you have that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Okay, I'll mark that down Pilates underscore boys and
I'll have I'll have all theinformation in the show notes so
you can follow them on.
I know you do have an Instagramyes, yes, they have an
Instagram and um, you can getall that, get all of that
information, um, as well.
So I would love for a.
Where would you like things togo in your, in your businesses,
(27:45):
when it comes to um?
You know just your growth andyour development as as a trainer
, as a Pilates instructor,fitness fitness, you know
influencer, what would you what?
Where would you like this, thiswhole adventure, to go to?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, I mean I would love to you know, start taking
private clients, maybe onlineclients, expand.
You know where I can create animpact in any of those
disciplines and I think it wouldbe really cool telling you
earlier about building afacility that crosses a lot of
those disciplines, notnecessarily putting them in
(28:20):
isolation.
But what if you did like aboxing Pilates fusion class?
Or what if we did like somesort of swimming strength
training class?
I love doing all thesedisciplines because I see the
differences and alsosimilarities between all of them
.
So maybe opening up a gym orsomething, or or at least having
(28:41):
some some way to expand umonline clientele, in-person
clientele, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
So if people want to connect with you, um, how, and
I'll put it, I'll put it on theshow notes, but, uh, will you
tell them how?
How would they?
How would they want to get intouch with you If anybody wanted
to connect with you when itcame to personal training or any
of those things, whetherthey're here in the area or you
know, or outside of the area?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Absolutely so.
My Instagram is probably mymost um utilized channel.
Um fit underscore.
Coach underscore Seb S E B S EB fit underscore coach.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Underscore Seb S-E-B, s-e-b fit underscore coach.
Underscore Seb Perfect, andwe'll put all the information.
If you have your websiteaddress, we can get all that
information out as well.
Yes, we'll do Thank you so muchfor spending this time and
sharing with the audience allthe things that you've learned.
I think it's interestingbecause we both had that same
(29:37):
experience of doing somethingthat we were really passionate
about, but it didn't actuallyturn out the way we wanted it to
, and so sometimes we have topivot in a lot of ways and you
pivot and you make a differentdecision, and who knows what
other decisions are coming downthe way, but we have to be open
to it, exactly.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I hope that you all enjoyed myinterview with Sebastian.
(29:58):
I'm sure you did and gotsomething out of it.
I would love for you to sharethis episode with someone that
you know that you think wouldbenefit from it, and please
connect with him on Instagram,and all the information will be
in the show notes andinformation about the Pilates
boys as well.
I love the idea of makingPilates available to everybody.
(30:22):
Thank you for listening to thisweek's episode.
If you are interested inlearning more about how I can
help you understand and manageyour emotional eating, including
the use of hypnosis to uncoverthe root cause of your eating,
go to my website,kristinjonescoachingcom.
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