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SPEAKER_00 (00:02):
Do you want to lose
weight but struggle to stay
committed to a meal plan becauseyou constantly feel hungry?
Does food provide you comfortwhen you're bored, angry,
lonely, or sad?
If so, you are in the rightplace.
My name is Kristen Jones, andI'm a life coach specializing in
emotional eating and weightloss.
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And I'm also a lifelongemotional eater.
I want to provide you withinformation, motivation, and
support so you too can learn tomanage your issues with food and
develop a healthy relationshipwith yourself.
Welcome to the BreakthroughEmotional Eating Podcast.
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Hi, and welcome to theBreakthrough Emotional Eating
Podcast.
My name is Kristen Jones, andthank you so much for joining me
this week.
Well, y'all know that usuallywhen I have an interview, in the
recent past, it has been peoplethat I work with and my
colleagues at Lifetime and Ihave spotlighted them and their
philosophies on eating and howthat might differ from what I do
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and what I teach.
And because I know that thereare so many different ways to
address losing weight.
There's so many different waysto have a relationship.
And sometimes I think that issuch an odd term sometimes when
we say have a relationship.
And some people are like, whatdo you mean by have a
relationship with food?
Like, what does that mean?
So when I say that, just gettingalong with food and not being at
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odds with food.
And so there are so manydifferent ways of doing that.
And that's really what I amalways interested in is finding
out how other people are doingit and how they're coaching
their clients.
And that has kind of been arecent um investigation for me.
But today's guest is soincredibly special because
Allison is joining me today.
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And she is, and I'm going to becompletely transparent with you
all, this is the first timewe've met.
We have, we had never met eachother before.
Um, I would say, what was it,four or five days ago, Alison,
that you that you reached out.
So Alison reached out to me, um,sent me an email, and um just
thanked me and let me know thatshe was uh a follower of my
podcast and she listened to mypodcast.
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And I'm not gonna ruin thestory.
I'm gonna let her share thestory, but I am so excited and
and you all are hearing it forthe first time for you, and I am
hearing it for the first timefor me.
So this is so, so very exciting.
She was gracious and on um, justhonored me so much by agreeing
to come on and share her story,uh finding my podcast and then
listening and then having herown kind of going on her own
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food journey and the successthat she has had.
So without further ado, Allison,welcome to the podcast.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
SPEAKER_01 (02:55):
Well, thank you so
much, Kristen.
SPEAKER_00 (02:57):
Excited to be here
and share my story and looking
forward to chatting with youtoday.
Absolutely.
So let's back up and let's goback to where you were and what
was happening in your life whenyou came up upon my podcast.
There obviously was a reason youwere looking for something for a
podcast or looking for someanswers.
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Um, so I would just love to haveyou share what where you were,
what was happening, and uh andhow you found me.
SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
Sure.
And I mean, you'll probably heara lot of the same things through
a lot of the podcasts that a lotof the women that you've worked
with.
I was just really strugglingwith the roller coaster of
dieting and yo-yo dieting andtrying to figure out why.
Um, and as you get older, um,I'm 48 years old, going on 49
here in a couple months.
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And as I progressed throughaging, dieting just wasn't
working.
And you just kind of grew upsince high school dieting,
gaining weight, dieting, gainingweight, and going through life
cycles of just everything.
And I realized something elsehad to be going on.
Um, why, and then it was towhere I couldn't lose the
weight.
Like I would diet and I wasn'tlosing the weight.
And I was like, okay, well,what's really going on here?
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Why can't I do this?
All those emotions that comealong with that, all the the
sadness and the frustration andthe am I gonna just gonna be
this weight for the rest of mylife?
You know, I'm uncomfortable, I'munhappy, I can't do the things I
want to do.
Um, and so I just started like,there's gotta be something else.
And just the word kind ofemotional eating.
I kind of knew, you know, I wasan emotional eater, but didn't
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really know what that meant.
You know, I I you catch yourselfeating when you're bored or, you
know, or or again, the happyemotional eating, right?
You know, going to a party,having a piece of cake with
someone for a birthday orsomething like that.
So that kind of stuff, you'relike, okay, emotional eating,
but getting really down to thebinging.
And that is really where I neveradmitted to anyone, um, let
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alone almost myself, thestruggle I was having with
dieting and restricting and thengoing way overboard with the
binging and going back andforth.
And I did, I do have children.
So I have twins.
And so I was pregnant withtwins, and so they're 16 now.
Um, and I never really lost theweight.
Like I just, after having thekids, like I couldn't really
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diet, I couldn't get it back.
You know, I tried working out.
I did this great group calledStroller Strides, um, where you
run with the kids, loved it.
It was amazing.
And then I had an injury, whichkind of set that back.
And then probably for the last10 years, it's just been it's
just been really likeuncomfortable.
And um, and I really got back upthere again, and I just I didn't
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know what to do.
And so I'm like, okay, what'semotional eating?
And then I don't know, even knowhow I came across your podcast,
but I saw your name.
I listened to, you know, thefirst episode, and I was like,
this is amazing.
And this was a year, this was ayear and a half ago.
So this was you had alreadystarted the podcast, you know, I
was listening to to it, youknow, after the fact.
Um, but this was a year and ahalf ago, and I kind of binged
your episodes.
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Like I listened to probably allof up to like 120, 130, like
within the first six months orso.
Like I was just really, really,really listening to it and
practicing your, you know,intuitive eating.
Like, what is intuitive eating?
And then the emotional eatingside of intuitive eating.
And really, so then I picked upthe um intuitive eating book,
um, Kriebel, um, Evelyn's book.
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And I so I was kind of readingintuitive eating along with
listening to your podcasts, andjust really, like you said,
redeveloped my relationship withfood and why am I eating and and
why do I want to figure it out,right?
You know, what is the truelong-term why of why I want to
be healthy and why I want to becomfortable?
And so that's really how Istarted.
And um, and I mean, I've I'velost over 50 pounds.
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Um, and just, you know, doingjust listening to your podcast
and trying to practice intuitiveeating principles, I you know,
incorporated working out again.
But again, it was just, it was asavior to me.
It really turned my life aroundthe last year and a half.
And that's why, again, I thinkthe maintenance is what's where
where I'm at now, and findingstruggles with the maintenance
and coming back and re-listeningto the podcasts, right?
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And you know, not hating myselfwhen when I on a when I fall
back on my old habits.
Um, but um doing themaintenance, and that's where I
was like, I started re-listeningagain and I started branching
out and trying to learn more.
And that's where I emailed you.
I just it was like for a yearand a half I've been wanting,
I've had you in my literally inmy head, in my ear pods while
I'm walking and stuff, and justwanted to thank you.
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So now thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (07:22):
Oh well, thank you.
And and I I I it's it'shonestly, it's honestly like
having you here and hearing thatis is really a dream come true
because because I because of mystruggles and the struggles I
went through, and and that wasexactly what I always hoped for
other people is I hoped thatother people would see that
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there's a different way of doingthings.
There's there's a way that wedon't have to be so uh uh
beholden to the whole re andagain, what you said is exactly,
I mean, gosh, I feel like wecould be sisters.
That it was I it was you know,the the being so good and just
restricting yourself and justfeeling very um, I know for me,
I was very self-righteous, like,oh, I'm just doing so well.
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And then all of a sudden itwould be like a cliff, and I
would go off the cliff, and itwas like, all right, well, we
gotta restart again, we gotta goback and and do this again.
And it was the doing it againthat just became so
demoralizing.
And I was just so devastated.
And when I for me, when Irealized that this was impacting
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my ability to to interact withfriends, to interact with
family, to to want to be aroundpeople in general, because also
because I was so embarrassed andashamed that like what ever like
people know how to eat.
Why don't I know how to eat?
Like, what what's what's myproblem?
And um, you know, and so it'sit's it's that it's it's that
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type of thing.
And I I just I always vowed whenI started, when I became a coach
and then I um started workingwith people, I always vowed that
I really would never, I neverwanted anyone to struggle.
I never wanted anyone to have tostruggle as much as I had
because it had been such a longstruggle.
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And and I remember saying, if Ijust helped one person, then
that would be fine.
I mean, just to know that Ihelped somebody make that change
and that they resonated withwhat I talked about, that that
was like there I've you know,okay, I've done my you know, God
sent me to do this, and that'swhere I'm and that's what I've
done.
So um it it just it could nothave it, it just it couldn't
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have come at it at any a bettertime.
So again, so I thank you, thankyou so much for that.
Um in in a sense of for you,what were the things what were
the elements that I talked aboutthat were that you felt that you
embraced and that you felt umyou did really well?
Which which what aspects thatyou know there's a a number of
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different things that I kind ofask people to do?
And again, now even more so I itI now coach in a way that it is
very suggested.
I I don't there is no hardbecause again, I don't want to
be that hard and fast.
Okay, if you're working with me,this is how things have to be
because everybody's soindividual.
And so I know sometimes somepieces don't resonate with
people, and that's totally okay.
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Um, but I would love to hearfrom you what were the things
that were that you were reallythat you felt really jibed with
you, they really resonated withyou, they worked with your
lifestyle and that sort ofthing.
SPEAKER_01 (10:24):
Sure.
And yeah, I get that.
I mean, I'm a planner in myprofession, and everybody's
situation is different, right?
And every plan is different foreveryone and how they react to
different things.
So for me, it was first just therealization that there's other
people out there that have thesame feelings and the same
thoughts and the same issues.
And so that sense of community,even though I didn't talk to
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anybody, I wasn't a part ofcommunity, um, I felt like a
part of it by just listening.
Um, and so first realizing thatthere's other people out there
struggling and that there is asolution to to this issue.
And so learning that first wasthe first thing.
And then really kind of divinginto the why.
Um that's still the ongoingstruggle I have.
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So that's like maybe for anotheranother interview.
But the the deep down dive,which is what you've kind of
kind of jumped into, thesubconscious and like why do you
go there to begin with?
Right.
That I'm still working on.
But the why I want to do this iswas the the next step.
Like, okay, why do I really wantto focus?
You know, the long-term goals ofwhy do I want to be healthy?
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Why do I want to lose weight?
Why do I want to maintain what Iconsider a healthy weight for
myself?
Um, and so discovering thosethose whys, and those whys
really kind of ended up taking afew different branches because
it got into more longevity,health span, you know, wanting
to, you know, play baseball withgrandkids one day, if I ever
have grandkids, that kind ofsituation.
Um, you know, so it got intokind of discovering more about
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myself and what I really wantout of life.
Um and then obviously justlosing weight.
I mean, that was that was areason why, right?
Uh then the main immediatedriver.
Um, but as far as the tools kindof that you gave me, um, I mean,
I I I don't write down my mealplans.
So I don't, because I just don'ttake the time to do that, but I
do meal plan.
I mean, I do, you know, duringthe weekends, I go shopping, I I
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do spend time and money onnutritious foods because I I've
learned through my fooddiscovery, which I did, which I
don't restrict what I eat.
I eat what I feel is was healthyfor me, that I enjoy.
Like used to be like fire on adiet, I can't have cheese.
Cheese is an absolute no on adiet.
Like, no way can I have cheese,any fat, right?
High school was fat-free diets,right?
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I eat white bread and apples.
Like that was you know, and inin well, we were joking about
Alestra the other day, you know,the fat-free Doritos they came
out with at one point, right?
So getting away from all of thatand just focusing on true
nutrition, I realized I love, Ilove nutritious foods.
And then I bought the omega-3versus omega-6 fatty acid book,
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and I started researching moreabout just nutrition in general
and being okay with fats.
And so just discovering foodagain, what I liked, and then
learning the nutrition about it,and then developing my meal
plans around that.
Um, and then freezing a lot offoods.
And I don't eat with my familymost of the time.
I mean, I have a husband and twoboys.
My boys are in high school, theyplay football, they eat a lot.
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We have crap in the house allthe time.
And we have everything in thehouse, right?
So those cravings are hard.
I've I've put notes in thecabinet that say, are you
hungry?
Yeah.
Do you need to eat this rightnow?
Like, will you be hurting if youdon't eat this?
You know, but it's really facinglike, am I biologically hungry
right now?
Do I really need to eat this?
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You know, what am I doing todayto need this nutrition?
And so really focusing on whyI'm eating the food and then
planning accordingly.
And then the big hardest part,manning the managing the daily
emotions around it.
And and you know, not going tothe I'm the night eater.
You know, it's like, you know, Ido really well during the day,
during, and then it's like, youknow, if things were rough or
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you get angry about an issue orupset or sad or bored or
whatever it is, it's like that'swhere I turn to food.
So it's that trigger is stillvery hard to like stop and be
like, turn that thought back,like redirect those thoughts.
So listening to you and tryingto redirect those thoughts to
recreate the emotions, toprevent eating the foods to
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satisfy the couple minutes ofhappiness that you want.
Right.
That's the real, the real gistof it.
And so just really working onmyself, um, you know, and going
down that route of, you know,self-talk and good, you know,
not hating yourself if somethinggoes wrong.
Right, right.
Getting back on it.
I mean, that's really, really,really what helped.
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And so, and then just, you know,getting back into the exercise
and all that and listening toall the all your speakers about
all the little things, all thethings.
I love that saying, all thethings, right?
Um, you know, and I've enjoyedthe hormone discussions because
I I'll share with with everyone,I had a I'm going, I had a full
hysterectomy at 42.
And so I kind of got forced intomenopause very early, like
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immediately.
And I went cold turkey, nohormone replacements.
And so kind of discovering thatside of everything as well.
So listening to your newerpodcasts about, you know, how to
just overall health and addingon to the nutrition is something
that I'm I'm learning more aboutnow as well.
Um, hair loss, something I feellike women do not ever talk
about.
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Right.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:30):
But I as far as the
the eating and just feeling
better, it was just reallyfocusing on why I'm eating and
trying to prevent the emotionaleating by using, you know, the
tools that you gave us with themore the thought control for me
was really where I needed tofocus for myself.
I've always enjoyed healthyfoods.
I um, but I would catch myselfgoing through the
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drive-throughs.
Going through the, you know, Ilisten, I connected a lot with
the women who were like, youknow, I'd go through the
drive-thru on the way home andeat the food in the car before I
got home and then hide thetrash.
I mean, it was it it's and tohear other people, it really,
really helped me understandthat, you know, it's not just
me.
Right, right, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (16:11):
And and I think, you
know, you you you said uh you
said so so many, so manyimportant things, but I think
the the the thing that I'malways trying to focus on, and I
think I think one of the thingsthat kind of kind of helps me
kind of stand out from the crowdwhen it comes to who people that
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are online that are helpingpeople lose weight is the fact
that I I don't believe thatweight gain is a re is a it's
not about food.
It's about what's behind it.
And the food is just the onduitthat got you there.
It's just the vehicle that yougot into to get you to the place
that you really didn't want tobe.
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And so it's figuring out whythat is.
And and to be totally honest,most people, I mean, there are
people that I've that that Ihave talked to about, you know,
about working together or, youknow, they they talk about
losing weight.
And honestly, I can't work withpeople who are not willing to
look at what they're thinkingand to look beyond, like I just
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want to control food.
There are so many people who arejust like, let me just control
food or let me just exercise andI'll be good.
Then then I can I can handlethat.
But the you're gonna ask me tolike start talking about my
feelings.
Oh no, that's not, you know,that's not acceptable.
And um, so it's it's really it'sand it's it's hard.
It's I mean, it's not easy, it'sscary because I can't even tell
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you how, especially since I'vestarted doing hypnosis, how many
times um I've heard someone say,I really want to do this, but
I'm almost afraid of what I'mgonna find.
And I don't and I don't think Ican handle it.
And you know, my response tothat is it's totally valid and I
totally understand, but but thenyou're letting that thing
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control your life and it's gonnabe there no matter what.
Because you can try you canthink that you can try to ignore
it, but your your body doesn'tlet you ignore it.
It's not it's just going, it'snot going anywhere.
Um, you're gonna have to uncoverit and you're gonna have to
figure it out uh before itever's gonna go anywhere.
And uh and that's hard.
I and I and I and I I understandthat.
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I mean, I went to therapy anumber of times and uh and had
to talk about had to talk aboutyou know my father and talk
about my relationship with himand my the real dynamics within
my family.
And I felt so like like I wasjust betraying my family by
talking about that kind ofstuff.
But it but but I knew that and Iand I remember my mom just
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saying, but but all of it'strue.
Like what you were saying wasthe truth, and your father and I
didn't know any better, and andwe just we raised you the best
way we could, and we didn't knowwe were sending you those
messages.
We didn't know that was why, youknow, that it ended up being
this way.
Um so I always tell people likeI I totally understand and I get
it, and it is scary.
And so everybody has to come toit in their own time.
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And it sounds like you were atthat place where you were ready
and you were completely open andwilling.
And and I love the I love thefact that you felt part of the
community, even though youweren't a part of the community.
And that you still feltconnected with you know with
what was happening, you know, onthe podcast and and and and felt
connected to you know mycommunity, which is which is
wonderful.
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I mean, that's just like thatmakes me that makes me so happy
because that's always what Iwould hope that people would
feel a connection with me and inturn then a connection with the
community as well.
SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
So I yeah, well, you
I mean you do an amazing job of
that, really bringing everybodyin and making them feel
connected.
It it really was it was alifesaver for me.
I it was amazing because I itwas it'll be two years February
when I started listening.
And that year, I startedFebruary, March, April that
year.
I had kind of three, I won't saytragedies, but so three big
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issues that happened outside ofmy control.
Um, you know, an animal death,my dog died.
Oh no, that's no tragedies, youknow.
Um family dog, um, the boy, youknow, um my mom had a stroke and
went to memory care.
And we had a family member die.
And I was like, I don't think Iwould have made it through that
April if I didn't have yourpodcast.
Right.
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Because I had already been onthe trail of food is not my
savior.
Like I can't go to food.
And that month, I who knows howmuch I would have been if I were
trying to deal with all of thatemotion and feelings and stress
um by turning to food to justget past it.
And so I think really the theidea is you just food isn't the
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answer.
You're right.
Food is not, and it's not theproblem either.
It's it's not the type of foods,right?
It's it's the why are you eatingit?
You can eat as much healthy foodas you want, but you can overeat
it and you're still gonna gainweight.
It doesn't, it doesn't matterwhat you're overeating, it's the
overeating and why theovereating is occurring.
Um, you know, stopping whenyou're satisfied and not and
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just being like, this is great.
And if I really enjoyed, I caneat it tomorrow, you know.
SPEAKER_00 (21:00):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (21:00):
Um, so but yeah,
it's been it's been amazing.
And so no, I appreciate it.
And I I've shared the podcastwith people that have asked
because they saw the dramaticchange.
And of course, I got asked the Igot asked by many people, did
you do the shot?
Did you do the thing?
Right.
Because I had started this likeapparently right when that
became kind of more known,right?
So a lot of people didn't see mefor a few months, saw the
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dramatic changes, and I wouldget asked that question.
I'd be like, no, but do you wantto hear my story?
I'd be happy to share with youand share the podcast, share the
book that I read, the intuitiveeating book.
And um yeah, I mean, hopefullyit's it's helped some other
people too.
But yeah, it's been incredible.
Um and yeah, I hope you keepkeep with it.
And um yeah, I'll continue tore-listen to those podcasts, you
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know, because it it's sohelpful.
But it's that next step, thesubconscious and the the really
getting to the root of why thatI think is challenging for most
people.
And you're right, they have tobe in the right time in their
life to to face it and toaddress it.
SPEAKER_00 (21:58):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (21:58):
And it's uh it's a
life, that's the lifelong
journey right there.
SPEAKER_00 (22:02):
And and and that's
and that's something I really
try to um because I I remember Iused to think, and I used to
actually even say this when Iwas starting my business, like I
want, I want people to neverhave to think, yeah, to never
have to, you know, think aboutfood to never have food be a
part of their life, not not apart of their life, but never
have food dominate their life.
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And I and I still want peoplefood not to dominate a person's
life.
But I also know in my ownrecovery that it is always
something I have to be aware of.
I always have to be aware, notnecessarily of food, but of my
very deep connection with foodand making sure that I'm doing
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the maintenance and the thingsthat I need to do on a daily
basis.
You know, I, you know,remembering to be grateful,
remembering to, you know, do alittle bit of journaling,
remember to um to stop myselfwhen I have that hair trigger
response of somebody sayssomething and I want to
immediately go from zero tohowler monkey and and be all and
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you know, be up in their faceand then and then and then go
and and eat everything that Ican eat, and realizing that that
that that's a practice and it'sa and it's something that we
have to we have to create andmake it a habit in our lives.
And that I've come to acceptthat I will always I will always
have to be cognitively aware ofhow I interact with food, and
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I'm okay with that now.
Whereas before I was like, oh, Ijust wanted this to be done.
And um I remember having um atherapist and I remember going
into the office the next the dayafter having a binge and me
saying, like, I don't understandlike when is this ever gonna
stop?
And like, yeah, I said, when isthis ever gonna stop?
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When am I ever gonna stop havingthese horrible feelings and
thoughts and feelings aboutmyself?
Or when am I gonna keep now, youknow, keep doing these things
that I just am sabotaging myselfall the time?
And she said, You're you're notgonna stop, because that's just
a part of who you are.
And it's like you're tryingyou're trying so hard to get rid
of this, this thing that you sayis is is is ruining your life.
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But in the reality of it, likeyou really need to embrace it
and realize that it's yourreactions to what's happening,
that it's it, these things aregonna come up and you're gonna
have these opportunities topractice this.
And you get to decide, do youwant to practice it or do you
just want to fall in, you know,fall into the same routine of
doing the same reactions overand over and over?
And uh, and when when I realizedthat I got the choice, I had the
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choice to make that it was likeI can decide how I want to
respond and how I want to how Iwant to either accept it or not
accept it.
And for me, um accepting it andrealizing that it wasn't
something um it wasn't somethingthat God did to me, it he did it
for me.
And it was I was supposed that Iwas supposed to be here.
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This is what was supposed tohappen in my life, and I'm
supposed to be sitting hereinterviewing you and doing all
of this because this is why,this is why I was put here.
I was put here to help peoplewith this, and this is just what
I'm supposed to be doing.
Um so it it uh and and there'stime there have been times that
I've questioned that, and uh andI will always have your your
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email somewhere around my house.
I can always refer back to it.
Uh, because it just it justreminds me that yeah, that that
that what I have discovered andand how I've changed my life,
that other people can do that.
Other people can do that, andthey can do that on their own.
And that's the part that also isso exciting for me is that for
some people it is really, it issomething that they do need
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support.
They do need either to be in agroup, they do need to work with
me one-on-one.
Um, but you know, I love thefact that you have been able to
take what you, you know, youtook what what you learned, and
then that kind of spurned you togo on and discover other aspects
of it and get do your ownresearch and and things like
that.
And you were able to almost kindof be your own coach and your
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own support system.
SPEAKER_01 (26:03):
And and I think
that's I I think there's a huge
benefit to being a part of thecommunity and the group.
And if I were closer to you guysor part of it, I I would join
for sure.
Cause I do like sharing that.
I think that's very important.
Yeah, my personality, I was ableto take it and run with it and
make it work.
But I think that community andthat group is extremely
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important for people.
And that's where I'm learning inthe maintenance stage.
Okay, how am I gonna maintainthis now?
Right.
You talk about it, the originalpart being similar to a diet.
It's exciting, it's new, it'sworking, right?
What happens when that newnessis over?
And so that's where it's like,okay, you know, you need to keep
talking about it.
You need to keep, you need tokeep addressing it.
And so um, yeah, I think it's Ithink it's uh wonderful that I
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just again, thank you so muchbecause you shared so much
information, so many people, andjust so much um on those
podcasts that honestly it did,it changed my life.
It has made my life a thousandtimes better, and I will always
have it to fall back on.
So it's been amazing.
It really has.
And I continue to listen andlearn, I continue to learn from
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you and continue to review allof the stuff that you have.
SPEAKER_00 (27:12):
It's just it's
really incredible.
Wonderful.
That's that's so that's so goodto hear.
If you don't, if you don't mind,could I ask you, I could ask you
what and I think this would behelpful for to for people who
are listening, what aspects ofmaintenance are you struggling
with?
SPEAKER_01 (27:27):
Um just the the
falling back on the bench every
once in a while.
It's really just like, and itis, it's catching that that
reason and and and going to itand being like, okay, yeah, I
know why I'm going to thecupboard right now, but I don't
care.
And it's just it's that's that'sbasically it.
That that's like the trigger.
And it's so it's just trainingmy brain um to not do that.
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Now I have the tools that you'vegiven me the next day to not
continue down that spiral,right?
That's that was that's now whereI'm realizing, man, that's the
savior.
It's like I'm not gonna gain 20pounds before I get back on top
of it.
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (28:05):
Oh, exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (28:06):
Yeah, it's and in
that can happen so quick.
I mean, when you do what whatwhat's considered, you know,
what we all probably considerbinging and probably don't even
want to admit to ourselves howmany calories we can consume in
a binge.
Um, that it's um, yeah, it'sit's it's getting back from that
quickly and getting back ontrack and not hating myself the
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next day and not and and givingmyself that that positive talk
and being like, it you're notperfect.
It's not about perfectionism,it's about maintenance.
And it's you're gonna mess upand it's okay, but it's about
not messing up too much.
SPEAKER_00 (28:40):
Right, exactly.
And that you know, I thinkthat's the that's the key to,
and I think that really is thekey to maintenance is is is
understanding, and they all gohand in hand because you can't
you can't bounce back if you'reconstantly belittling yourself
and berating yourself becausethat is what is that cycle of
just continuing to, you know, wewe feel bad, we eat, we feel bad
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again, so we eat some more.
And it's just this this I callit the triangle of doom.
And it's just that's wherethat's we we get caught in that,
and we get caught in it, andit's three weeks later, and
we're still caught in it, butwe're 15 pounds heavier.
And that's and you know, it'salways been one of my and I
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don't and I don't even knowwhere I where I picked this up
from, but this is like this, andthis has been for most for
almost all my life that I reallynever when oh no, I shouldn't
say all my life.
It's a I definitely didn't dothis in high school, but um as
an adult, it was usually a abinge would be isolated because
I knew I was like, you gotta getback, you gotta get back on.
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There was something that toldme, like, you can't let this go
because if you let this go, it'sgonna get completely out of
control.
And but I didn't, but I Istopped it, but I was stopping
it with the the the beatdown andthe negative.
self-talk and so yes it wasstopping it but I felt so
horrible in the process um andthat's and again that just
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infiltrated so many aspects ofmy life um and and really I feel
like this I feel like everythingmost of the things that I do are
it they're really not I meanthey are about losing weight but
they're really about likeunderstanding who you are and
understanding what um where welook for happiness because I
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know you know I was looking forhapp happiness for me was food
there wasn't a whole lot ofthings that that made me happy
other than food and so when thatwas the case well of course I'm
gonna be you know thinking aboutfood all the time of course I'm
gonna be you know having tohaving to you know figure out
okay what's my next meal when ohif I can be good for two days
then on Saturday oh Saturday'sthe day that's where
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everything's gonna be amazingand getting halfway through the
day I'm being like oh my gosh Ifeel so sick like what what am I
doing and then just again thatthat cycle back um so so what
what is what is on the what whatwhat is on the future for you in
a sense of of your kind of yournext steps as you move as you
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kind of you know and it's beenit's been a couple of years so
you're getting coming acrossyour almost two year anniversary
of this so what do you what whatare you really wanting to focus
on moving forward?
SPEAKER_01 (31:24):
Well I mean I think
you know I've got the nutrition
side of it pretty well down.
I do I do like that side of itto keep it going that way.
I think it's just the you knowthe whole the subconscious the
emotional like I've got to godown that therapy route probably
at some point for for justoverall wellness.
So that's where you know I thinkkind of when I emailed you to
say thank you, I was just reallylike realizing that this is
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something I really have to focuson going forward.
And exercise I I just want toget stronger.
I mean I've been doing my ownI've got friends that do Pilates
in yoga and I keep telling themtwo years my boys are juniors
they'll be out of the house I'llget my life back you know I'll
I'll make more time for myselfum I do the elliptical in the
house.
I live in Jackson, Wyoming so Ihave all of the outside
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wilderness has to offer sohiking walking like I have an
amazing you know so so my goalreally was to get into the point
where I could be out you knowskiing and hiking with people
that can do a lot more than Icould have done you know a year
or two ago.
And being able to be physicallyactive for myself but for my
children and everybody else.
I was an athlete growing up Iplayed five sports in middle
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school three sports in highschool you know played in
college.
So like getting back to who Iwas and rediscovering who I was
as an athlete is really you knowwhere I want to be.
I started playing tennis againbut you know injuries and this
and that.
So it's just really trying toget back to kind of I mean I'm
back to like college clothes,you know, back to where I was
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before I kind of got married andhad kids.
Right, right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:54):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (32:55):
You know, they're
about to fly the nest.
So for me I'm looking at youknow an empty nest here coming
up in a couple of years and youknow what's next for me and my
husband and how am I going to bemove on to the next phase in my
life and be active and healthy.
But emotional eating is amassive part of that and just
understanding how to keep myselfhealthy um is very involved with
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with I mean weight is we don'tweigh ourselves because you know
I bought my scale you know whenI started this for data purposes
only.
Right.
You know um but and and to trackit and it was great to help with
that tracking but um just youknow trying to maintain it and
um and spread and and talkingwith people about it too that
ask.
(33:39):
There's still a lot of people Ihaven't seen in a couple of
years that probably when theysee me they'll be like what
happened you know and um talkingto them about it.
So spreading the word and andgetting more involved in the
physical side of things yogaPilates.
Everything you guys gosh whatwas it the there was one
exercise on the more recentpodcast you guys were talking
about.
It was like between a Pilatesand something else I don't know
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but I I would really like tolike really push myself as far
as you know the physical side ofthings next.
SPEAKER_00 (34:06):
Right, right.
Oh that's that's awesome.
That's so good.
Um what would you say to someonewho's listening right now who is
feeling the way you felt twoyears ago what would you what
would what would be your adviceto someone who you know is like
well Alison you some for somereason you were able to do it.
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I just don't think I can do it.
What would what would youradvice be to them?
SPEAKER_01 (34:33):
You know I mean
honestly it was shocking to
myself I was shocked to watchthe weight just literally drop
off and I I won't say it waseasy because it wasn't easy.
But honestly if you just followthose the very simple intuitive
eating principles like if youcan just do that and again it's
the what willpower whatever youit's not willpower you know we
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talk about what really is it thethoughts driving the emotions
and all that but I'd say youknow pick up the intuitive
eating you know read aboutintuitive eating itself and
really just I don't know I meanfor me I guess it has to be the
right time if you're listeningthen you're you're ready.
Right.
And so if you can just try tolisten to your body and try to
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understand what makes your btake a break and take a pause
and really listen to when you'rehungry and when you're not and
then figure out what foods makeyou feel good and not.
Because once you start like Imean my probably my calories
probably I probably went to likea third of the calories I was
eating.
Right.
And I didn't need it.
Like I was not hungry.
I really wasn't hungry.
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And so I think focusing onactual physical hunger and
realizing that you only youshould only be feeding your body
for energy.
That's why we feed our body andif you can if you can it's
really really hard but if youcan stick with it and separate
the emotional eating with thethe with the biological hunger
that's what I was able to do.
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And and I have all of the I meanI again with the kids in high
school I got there's all thefoods around me.
So it's like I've got there's abox of Twinkies downstairs right
now.
You know I mean it's like it'salways there.
It's so not you know when I'mpacking lunches at nine o'clock
at night and I may be you knowI'm I I'm like literally like
what you say no snacking.
That's a huge one huge likeliterally don't even lick the
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spoon when you're you knowmaking someone else something to
eat.
Like just no calories in betweenmeals.
Um allowing yourself to behungry it's okay to feel hungry.
That was a huge one for me.
Like if like I'll if I I feel alittle like like lightheaded
maybe I need some food like I doI go to my water um and again
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this is if you're trying to loseweight right um if you're trying
to maintain you might maybe youneed to eat but um you know go
to the water until it's yournext mealtime um and eat what
you want like it's okay to eatwhat you want but stop as soon
as you like eat it eat and halfeat half of the plate you know
and stop and drink some waterand really be okay pushing the
rest of the food away.
(37:02):
Be okay throwing the food awayfor all those all of you who had
to clean your plates growing uplived on budgets you know my
grandma in the depression rightyou know um she used to yell at
me not yell at me it felt likeyelling it was probably just a
mean look but you know how it isit feels like yelling if I cut
the cantaloupe too far away fromthe rind right if I left too
much cantaloupe on the rindright you know so we all kind of
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grew up so with some of that onon the back of our uh back of us
um so if you're you know be okaythrowing food away just think
you feel like you're wastingmoney but you're weight it's
even more of a waste to put itin your body right right if you
don't need it you're you're thenhaving to spend probably more
money to take that weight off atsome point in some way.
Right.
Whether it's an emotional costor a financial cost.
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Yeah absolutely um so to behonest it was just all of those
little all of those principles Ijust really focused on them and
I literally listened to yourpodcasts like two or three at a
time while I'd walk every day.
And I just really every timesomething came up where I was
like okay I I need to get backon it or you know I'm feeling
really bad about myself todaybecause I went overboard last
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night with something and it wasa true binge.
It wasn't just like I ate alittle too much of what I was
eating.
It was like a true true bingewhere like out of control,
mindless eating and um you knowjust getting listen relistening
to the podcast that applied tothat and being like you're okay
just every day is a new day.
Every choice is a new choice.
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So all all of those things allof those things were helpful and
if anyone can just stick withthe principles that you're
teaching um it's gonna it'sgonna happen.
It really is the weight is goingto come off.
Right.
Right perfect and it may take amonth or two for your body to
adjust and you hit thoseplateaus like you talk about and
yeah maybe you need to eat alittle bit more and and you know
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so again everything everythingyou talked about worked for me.
SPEAKER_00 (38:50):
Right right that is
so amazing.
Well I thank you again so muchfor again for reaching out for
taking the time today um to torecord this with me and um and I
just I I know I mean y'all Ihave my biggest cheerleader
right here with me.
It's very exciting um but I justagain I I can't I don't think I
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can I can adequately explain howmuch it how much it meant it
means to me that you took thetime to do that.
And that I'm just so thrilledthat you are that you're so
happy and that and that you'vethat that it's that it's really
that it's really working foryou.
And uh and I know that uh I Ifeel very confident in the fact
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that you will be you will youknow glide through maintenance
and maintenance will be amaintenance will become your
lifestyle um and that's justthat that's just it'll that's
what your kids will know that'swhat your friends will know and
and uh and you will end up beingexactly where you want to be so
again thank you so much I Ican't even can't begin to say
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really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01 (39:56):
Well same here I
feel the same I can't thank you
enough.
I mean really it's it's been a asavior thank you so much.
SPEAKER_00 (40:02):
Absolutely y'all
it's a love fest here.
So uh thank you so much forjoining both Allison and I this
week and um again if you haveany questions about about you
know again the podcast is hereyou're listening to it so you
just go back.
Um Alison would you recommendjust starting back at number
one?
SPEAKER_01 (40:21):
Yeah I mean go down
to number one I've got it on I l
I've got it on Spotify becausethat's what I have.
So I I'm on I've got I've gotbasically all my favorites
downloaded so I can listen tothem anytime anywhere because I
live in Wyoming and there's alot of places when there's cell
service but um yeah I just I goback and start at one um and and
kind of go through them.
SPEAKER_00 (40:41):
Um yeah okay all
right you heard you heard it
from her y'all all right wellthank you again everyone for for
listening and for being a partof the podcast and being part of
of this community and again ifyou have any questions please
don't hesitate to uh to reachout all my contact information
is in the show notes and uhwould be happy to answer any
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questions that uh that any ofyou have so again thank you so
much for being here and I willsee you all next week take care
thank you for listening to thisweek's episode if you are
interested in learning moreabout how I can help you
understand and manage youremotional eating including the
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use of hypnosis to uncover theroot cause of your eating go to
my website Kristen JonesCoaching dot com