101. Political Unrest and Chinese Food

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We're about to start recording, so hold up, feel free to going
upstairs or downstairs. We'll record out here.
No worries. This is before.

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That's going to be fun. It's like fire bro to glow up
his lick. I feel like should have stuck
around. Bitch, we organized.
Oh yeah, that food hits the spot, man.

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That food hit the spot. Oh yeah, Tonight is beautiful.
I love bliss. Moments like this feels like
moments like this always make you feel like there's no
problems in the world. Full stomach.
Yeah, that's true. Time with family, loved ones,

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good vibes, things to get excited about.
Makes you feel like all this shit they tell us to be worried
about ain't fucking nothing but some bullshit.
They're trying to make us lose sight, lose focus about what
matters most. This.

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Is a show for me and my Bros aretap into our emotions is cool.
If you want a bowl no ego allowed.
This is a place with a mango andfree your minds abroad and
stress out the window. Hot topics.
You gotta test whatever is on your hurry in your mind if that
makes sense. Speak about whatever, no
judgment, let it flow just like what the other bread you get on

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my drift. A point of view for my lens of
historian glimpse no feel. They say what it is
undescripted. No need to watch what you said.
It's the truth. Verb bro.
Therapy is the meds. I said this is the pro therapy
show. I said this is the pro therapy
show. This is the pro therapy.

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There's a lot to be scared about.
That's very true. Go off top before we start
recording. I know you're probably gonna say
we're already recording. I don't know if this is true or
not. So loosey goosey I saw somebody

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say that Pam Bondi's floating, floating, floating, introducing
or I don't know how the fuck that would.
Our government doesn't work anymore how it's supposed to
work. So it's like you can literally
just say some whatever bullshit and it's probably true.

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Like she she wants to start pushing for a ban on gun sales
to trans people for why? Because of the church shooting
that happened. Oh, there was a church shooting.
Yeah. Oh man.

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It was like a week or two ago what happened?
Somebody posted a video before they went out to the church who
was allegedly trans and then they shot up the church from
like outside. Some people died.

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Now all I'm going to say is it'scrazy that when a trans person
does it, it's we need to ban guns from trans people.
But when the other 9000 school shootings that happened by white
men, we're not banning guns fromwhite men.

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Yeah. So I but the actual, it's
actually useless to get into that kind of conversation
because the real point of discussion if you're American is
there's no bans on who can get guns of any kind of background.

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Because the moment you start banning one kind of person from
having guns, it opens up the door for other people to have
guns banned from them. And if you care about the Second
Amendment, you understand that it's either everybody who passes
a background check can purchase a gun, or they're going to

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slowly erode your civil liberties and your amendment and
the rights given to you through the Constitution and through the
amendments by picking groups andthen expanding the groups that
are encompassed in that umbrella.
That happens every time. We all know it, and the people
who know it the most are the gunpeople.

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Yeah. So I don't think that'll ever
fly. Like, I don't even think you
could get the most conservative parts of the country on board
with that. There's no way, because they
know in their mind that that leads nowhere good.
Right. That, you know, that's how I'm.
Yeah, unplugged. Good for you.

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It totally didn't even hit my radar and I feel I feel sad
about that. Not that it sad about it not
hitting my radar, but sad about what happened.
It's the same thing with that school, with the trans person
who shot up the Christian School.
And I think like, I'm not reallyinterested in the gun talk me

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and you've talked. A lot of.
Times probably about how we feelabout that.
But I think that in these moments, Christians should
really like we should we as in humanity, not I'm a Christian

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should really like evaluate thatsituation and like really have
an honest conversation about like why that happens because
when the school situation happened, that was what I tried
to voice. Like we're not going to sit here

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and pretend like that student who went to that school, who was
probably trans in that ChristianSchool.
We're not going to pretend. Like I was a church, no.
No, I'm talking. About.
Oh, yeah. OK, OK.
I remember now. I remember, yeah.
It's like we're not going to pretend like that child probably
wasn't put through hell. And antagonized to that point.

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Yeah. So I mean, does that justify it?
No. Do I support it?
No. Like it breaks my heart.
But I think we as a community should start evaluating like why
that why that happens? And it's so like it's so crazy.
Anyway, that's sad. It's funny.

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Yo, I wanted to hit you up so bad the other day.
I was at work. Different topic, but on the
topic of Christianity, Yeah, we have a woman that comes into our
job who's a customer, and she always talks about to everybody
how she's a good Christian woman.

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It's like all she ever talks about is how she's a good
Christian woman. Mind you, she's reported the
store before for how dirty it was.
Air quote. Yeah.
And she only made this report after our store manager, she
realized our store manager was black and she talked to the

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company like on the alert. Oh fucking are we recording?
That's. Cool, whatever.
Before we get into like the realmeat and potatoes, the she on
the alert line, she had talked about how she's scared to go in

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there because of him and the other people that work there and
how they people. She didn't say that specifically
but that's what she's insinuating and how they make
her feel scared and uncomfortable for what reason?
And that the stores gone to shitever since they've taken over

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and oh it's so crazy. Wow.
And so there's a homeless guy outside the other day, and she's
brought this up to me before about homeless people.
But today or this time it was like there's a homeless guy that
often comes around and he's usually around when his sister

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is in the area, like very close because she's like doing laundry
runs and everything else. And he'll wander about.
He's schizophrenic, but he's harmless.
He's schizophrenic, but he's harmless.
But he's schizophrenic, is very much in control of him.

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And he's just outside. And sometimes when he gets
money, he'll come in, buy his groceries, doesn't bother
anybody, waits in line. He'll be talking to himself and
like, what? Not fighting off the demons.
But he's outside. She comes in.
She finally comes through my line.

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She's like, I guess you know about the homeless guy outside.
And I'm like, yeah, she's like, do I need to, is he safe, like,
or is anyone in danger if he's around?
Like, do I need to be worried about, like, feeling threatened

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and like, he's harmless? Yeah.
He comes by sometimes when a sister comes through.
He's he's harmless. He's you're totally fine.
She was like, well, because there's like, elderly people and
like, sometimes you never know. And it's like, I don't, I don't
know this person and he's homeless.

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And, and I was like, well, I tryto always remember what my
church tells me and I just try to spread love.
And she just like, stood there like a deer in the headlights
looking at me like I was like, calling her out on her bullshit

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about who she is as a person, like who she says she is versus
like her actions and how she treats other people.
And she's like, well, you still,like, you just never know, Like,
it could be dangerous people outthere and this and that.
And I couldn't remember the exact details, so I couldn't use

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it as a rebuttal. But I so badly wanted to tell
her that story about Jesus and the non believers when they're
being crucified and he's like even like even you'll have a
place in I so badly wanted to tell her that it's like because
I believe that I'm like, I don'teven even if he was out there,

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it's like I I just so badly wanted to be like he could be
Jesus. Like what is like that homeless
person you didn't feed? That was me like, like really
like you're really going to comein here and be upset about
somebody who's homeless, homeless.
It's not a, it's not AIDS. Right.

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Right. It's not rabies.
He's homeless, right? You're supposed to feel sorry
and sad, not horrified. Yeah, it's just like some weird
humor that she believes in someone who gave her a very
specific and direct commandment,as in saying that that homeless

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person is me, literally, and whatever you do for them is what
you're doing for me. And then she just turns around
like and and acts that way. And acts that way.
So it's like, man, if Jesus wereto come back, I don't believe in

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that shit, but if that were to happen, they would just, they
would kill him again. They really would.
His own people. Yeah, his own people.
Would yeah, I there's this, there's this book written by a
Roman historian in 90AD, Jophi Jophius Jophius or something

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like that. And through what he wrote and
that and through his sources that we have found and have,
it's pretty like it's, it's like99% for sure that Jesus was a

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real historical figure, right? And John the Baptist also, I'm
like learning about that and through like all these different
cultures that like surround thisarea and all their like
traditions and their historical sources.
You can like very vaguely piece together like this real

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historical like story to this like group of people, Jesus,
John the Baptist, Peter, Paul, like these folks, right?
And like the more I learn about like like stripping all of the
woo woo stuff, just physical, real life, real man.
And then the more I learn about like the real shit, like the

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real human shit with these people, the more it does for me.
And I know that's backwards and they ain't supposed to do that.
Like people are like, but it literally it does more for me.
It's it's fucking. The humanness.
The humanity, it's always the humanity, the humanity we love
to see. See, but that's that's it's like

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why? I don't know why people get
scared of that humanity. Our common humanity is the
uniting factor among all of us humans facts.
And that should be the thing that gets us all to come
together and work together is our common humanity.
Yeah. And I feel like so many of those

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old stories that that is like the common thing, like I sent
you that Instagram real about. I don't even remember the name.
I just remember I commented, I said I need to learn more about
this person, the person who got like the thousand arms because
they said that they they won't rest until like all suffering of

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all living things was put to an end.
That's so. Beautiful.
It's so beautiful. Can I?
It is beautiful. I share in that.
With me, I like that philosophy is like so core.
And and I OK, granted, one couldargue that one story, the one

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with the 1000 arms like is a little bit more mythological or
woo woo. I think both were absolutely the
same, but the number, like the number one thing that I heard
from my Christian friends, like the argument against me
practicing Buddhism, I hear it so much is that Buddhism's all

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good and all like, but the one thing that makes Christianity
better or sets it apart from Buddhism is that like, is grace.
Like there's a savior and there's grace and there's
atonement and there's a sacrifice.
Like you had someone who loved you so much that they sacrificed
themselves to make an atonement for your sins and put you back

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in connection with God, Right? Great.
There's not there's no savior, there's no sacrifice in
Buddhism. There's no so that I guess
assinuates that there's no graceor whatever, but like that is my
rebuttal. It's like, how can you say that
there's no sacrifices or say that there's no grace when like

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you have that story there? It's like that, that being
probably a million times throughout the course of, we're
assuming it's real, right? I'm assuming it was a real
person at one point and they grew into a legend.
Well, that's that's. How it always happens, that's

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what I believe. It was a real.
Person so like this this being could have just said fuck it and
went to Nirvana a million times a kajillion times throughout the
the the span of human history right?
Could have just went to Nirvana and probably achieved every bit

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of enlightenment that you can achieve.
But to just sacrifice, having perfect eternity, to wait for
every suffering being in the world to not suffer anymore.
It's so I romantic. I can't help but like, say it's

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romantic. It's so romantic.
That's a sacrifice. That's what Jesus quite
literally did, just in a different story form.
It's it's gracious. It's empathetic.
Yeah. That that.
That's so amazing. I want to do such a.
Deal. I was like starting to text all
that out to you when you sent itto me, but I was like, Nah, I'll

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just wait till I'm in person with a fire.
I could bring that up. Yeah, that's my like rebuttal to
that man. That's that's just so fucking
beautiful. But you, you hit on a, a real
solid point that like, like you said, you think it was a real
person at one point. And like things probably got

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added on like to the legacy, man, we do that with everything.
We do that with all our heroes, with all our leaders, like
whether it's religion, politics,art, whatever, Like we always do
that. And that goes to like this
historical shit. I've been like learning.

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It's crazy because like you got 4 gospels, they all have their
own version of Jesus's life story right?
And most of them are like not punctual at all.
The earliest one also not written by any of the disciples.
Whoops. The earliest one is Mark, and

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then Matthew and Luke is the second oldest ones, and they're
pretty certain that they just copied off of Mark and added
some new shit into there. And then John is the oldest
copy. What, like way later.
And what's crazy is when you read Mark, it's like the Jesus
story without the resurrection, without the Immaculate birth,

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without all the like, woo woo, bringing people back from the
dead and everything. It's like pretty human story.
And the older the Gospel gets, the more time goes by, the more
gets added to the story to get to the point of John.

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And now Jesus was born of a virgin.
He raised from the dead. He did all these different
magical things. He brought people back from the
dead. And it's like originally it's
just some Carpenter from Bethlehem, Nazareth, Galilee,

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born of a 13 year old woman, grew up way before his time, was
very politically and spiritually, like religiously
smart. He was like.
The Scholar. Debating.
World travelled. Like debating with scholars that

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like 12 years old and then started following his cousin
John the Baptist, who had his own apocalyptic movement going
on, became a disciple of his cousin John the Baptist, which
Christians hate to address is supposed to be the other way

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around. He's the son of God.
But and then after John got arrested and killed, Jesus spun
off and like had an even bigger movement and all it was was
apocalyptic. Is it apocalyptic?
Yeah. Apocalyptic.
Apocalyptic. Means like end of the times.
Like, yeah, like Armageddon, like, there's going to be a big

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political battle. Our Messiah is going to come
back and destroy the earthly king.
I always think this is aliens bro like it's so hard for I
always keep thinking like I'm not trying to derail.
You're. Cool.
Anytime people talk about like any of the religions, it's
always so hard for me not to be like, man, it just sounds a lot
like aliens. Like if I were to imagine aliens
showing up a couple thousand years ago, this is probably how

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we would try to describe them inour metaphors and our stories.
Like it's like, Oh, you telling me somebody came to Earth and
tried to unify everybody and then was like you can revive
people from the dead and birth had somebody have have birth and
but they were never they were never sounds like somebody was
impregnated, like abducted, impregnated.

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Like there was supposed to be a unification process that never
happened or any of them. Or it's like I think about like
that one that I sent you metaphors.
We talked about metaphors outside of the alien target 1000
arms. It's like, what was the message
of ending the suffering of all living things so powerful that

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literally 1000 people or 500 people or whatever, you know,
just like as a word, like back then, 1000 must have been like
so many. We're so used to numbers being
so big now, like 1000 carried somuch weight that it was just in
that moment, like 1000 people took up arms with that message

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and said, I'm going to help end the suffering of all living
things with that person. Like what if that is the
metaphor, like written into the text, into the lead, into the
legend That is, it's like, no, it's supposed to describe a
moment where like somebody had amessage so profound that their
life experience, the way they carried themselves, it literally
inspired 1000 people to follow their path immediately moment

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that they decided like, this is what I'm going to do.
I think it like possesses a universal truth that's already
written in your heart. And whether it's that story or
this story or this story that activates that within, like your
being, that's the point. Like, that's the point.

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Yeah, Yeah, man. But we just add and it's cool.
There's nothing wrong with that.We add these like very.
I'm sure when the aliens visit again, we'll add something else.
For sure, for sure we'll have something else to say.

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Be like well, this time it was the revelation.
You know, like to even like thatwas a beautiful metaphor, but
like if I could throw one out there to to go right.
Really, really deep, but so simple at the same time, a

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message that maybe we can deriveout of that is just like a
simple one of like me personally, I think that acts of
kindness and like acts of love and and acts of caring.
Like when you really like, genuinely like feel it and, and

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your soul and like you feel it like it's just going to burst
out of you. Like you really feel that for
something. Yeah, or someone or whatever.
Like even though I can't explainit and me like it feels very
magical. It feels very.
Divine. Divine.

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Yeah, it really does. So that's how I describe
crushes. Always.
It feels divine, feels like something peels back the veil of
like what the purpose of existing is.
I think maybe like just a simplething is just like the act of
compassion to just just think. Then maybe that's a message.

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Just think, Just think of someone.
Just think of people. I would so just think of each
other, yeah. Always remember people who are
suffering the. It's like, it's so funny because
I go, huh, I'm not religious. It's like the message of Jesus
in the same sentence, right? It's like I'm not religious, but

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the message of Jesus being like a poor person.
I was about to literally just say like often times I feel like
I would rather die poor and compassionate for others and
helping others than dire rich and like know that I'm hurting
the world. Like I could never fucking sleep
at night bro I don't understand how these people do it.

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Yeah, no, you're that's that's avery real thing.
And like Jesus said that a camellike the legit camel, the
animal, a camel, it's easier fora camel to.
Walk. Through the eye of a needle than
it is for a rich man to get intoheaven.

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You know, what's crazy is like, I feel like that's the ultimate
obstacle. Like I know me and you have
these aspirations for things we want to do with their life.
And it's like, at least I know my sphere.
I can't even imagine you doing something that would, like, bar
you from being able. Like, let's assume there's

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heaven, right? Yeah, I couldn't imagine you
doing anything in your own businesses or the way you
operate that would bar you from being in that.
And then I know all the things that I want to do and how I want
to structure my businesses and my ideas.
It's like I feel like we're really trying to tackle these
ideas. I know there's good, it sounds

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crazy, businessmen out there, people that are making lots of
money that are really giving back and helping people.
Yep. Like I forget what me and my mom
were talking what sparked it today, but she was, I think I
asked her like I need to ride with you or we need to go
together. Like when you're paying the
property tax and the mortgages and stuff.

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Because I need to start just in case, God forbid anything.
Even if not saying you died, butlike even if you just ended up
in the hospital for whatever time.
Like if I need to know how to godo this shit, I need to know how
to go do this shit. Do it online 5 And she explained
it to me and she's like all you have to do is put in the lot

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number. And I was like so you're telling
me you could just pay someone else's property tax on someone
else's stuff? I was like oh bro, they just
hate us. They, like rich people really
could, just like they do, fix a lot of problems.
You're about to snap. They do do it.

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You know what they do? I'm like so worried you're going
to hate off bro. You're going to really listen me
to the fuck? Off.
So if you owe any kind of taxes,it could be a dollar, right?
It's public records. So back in the day you used to
get posted in the newspaper, butthat's not really a thing.

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So somewhere on some public records it gets posted and you
can go look it up. It's a quick search, sometimes
me and my friends do it for shits and giggles just to see
like what's? Going on, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And basically like if anyone
owes any back taxes on on their.I already don't like where this

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is going. You can.
Pay it. Yeah, but this is $600.00.
This might be some nefarious shit.
Whatever you can pay it and thenyou can give the those people
who own the property or a certain amount of time to give
you your money back I. Don't know, I really don't like
where this is going. And if they don't do it within a

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certain amount of time, you could put a lien on on the.
Property fuck out of here, so there's people that I'm sure do
that for sure to squeeze poor people out it there has to be a
role in gentrification. I don't know enough, but I

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wouldn't, I wouldn't challenge you on that.
That has to play a part because that would be a if I was
somebody, if I put my mind in the mind of an oppressor and I
wanted to get a bunch of people out of a neighborhood, I would
watch that neighborhood. See whenever someone is owing

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money and immediately pay it andforce them in a situation where
they constantly have to keep coming up with money within a
certain amount of time or put a lien on the House.
That's fucking crazy. That's fucking bananas.
Why wouldn't you? If you're rich, why wouldn't you

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just see, This is why I don't get, This is why I'm not rich.
I would. I would spend it all helping
people. There's a lot of yeah, yeah,
there's a lot of I don't get it either, bro.
I don't get it either. And that's.
Why they could literally set up a fund where every month new

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money comes in just off interestalone that literally just only
goes towards paying and helping people in a community and never
think about it again. But they don't.
That's actually like a really important fact that most people
don't know. And like when I explain, like a

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lot of ideas, people are like, they make it seem like there's
never enough money. And it's like, listen, I
understand that I'm not supposedto know how this works.
And a part of me hates that I donow.
And they really don't want you to know.
They won't tell you. They'll do everything they can
to keep that information. Well, yeah, they guess like you

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a lot. They guess guess like you a lot,
but you know what is what And it's just it's really it's odd,
but listen, and I there's there's a lot of good examples
of people who do the right thing.
And that's another thing people will try to guess like you want,

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like there isn't like hella examples all around us.
I was just talking to one of my homies out in Greenwich where we
our first studio for the pod here and all out there.
One of the older folks who live out there, very wealthy, owns a

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lot of property out there, but it's because her father or
grandfathers owned a particular business out there that like
became super huge. And anywho, we live in a time

(33:51):
right now where all the farmers,the kids don't want to take over
the the family estate. And so all the farmers are
selling, all the big farmers too.
There's only a few left. They're selling to corporations.
Sunny Slopes just sold. Yeah, I've noticed that.
Like. That's the one I was going to
bring up, actually. I don't blame them in a sense,

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when you don't have no one who wants to, you know, take the
reins. But and, and then 2, when you're
getting offered millions of dollars and you can just take
that and just go spend the last 20 years of your life chilling.
I I totally get it. But then you have people like
the person I just mentioned out there, the old folk, and I just

(34:37):
say that because I don't want toname them, but they had a, they
just got it set up with the state and it's finalized all the
property that is theirs, all theproperty out there.
And it's a lot, brother, it's a lot.
I. Like that, you're smiling.
This means good news is coming. It's all state preserved now.

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They can't do shit with it. No warehouses, no corporations.
Amazing. Someone's doing a good thing.
That's beautiful. That's beautiful.
And then, and then I'm going to be vague with this, but on top
of that, right, because now, nowwe're guaranteed like there's,
there's not going to be any building up of any towns and

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cities in this area. Like this is truly colonial
history preserved? Beautiful.
And not only that, but OK, so that that is a good thing in
that sense, but a bad thing in asense where like where does the
Township get funding to keep things as smooth and beautiful,
right? They also accepted Open the

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doors for just a little bit out of time for a new industry to
come out there and harvest. OK.
Locking in income of $40,000 a month for the Township.
Oh, that's perfect. So when when, when these fucking

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entrepreneur wannabe businessmentry to fucking or women try to
gaslight you into thinking like there isn't hell of examples all
around us of wealthy prominent people who literally just choose
to make the right decision, choose humanity over fucking

(36:33):
money. Yeah, yeah.
Not it's, yeah. This conversation is so funny
because like, I saw a Instagram Reel and I had to immediately go
tell my mom. I was like, I was like, you know
what's crazy? Amazon has so much fucking
money. Most of the time they don't even

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take returns anymore. They just tell you to keep it
and give you your money back because they don't want to store
that shit at the warehouse. They're having new stuff come in
the warehouse all the time. It costs them more money to even
come out. Come out to your house.
What do you mean? Like we got to come take

(37:17):
something from you? No, keep it, keep it.
Here's your money back, brokie. Like like imagine having that
much fucking money that when people say, hey, I don't like
this thing or hey, this thing doesn't work.
You're like, here's the money back.
Keep it. What the and and it's not just

(37:39):
one person like we're talking about like a a global business.
Like fuck out of here, dude, that's insane.
That's insane, I really don't like all these warehouses
popping about like around the area because I don't see

(38:02):
anything good coming from it like.
Well, I don't. Yet is there, are we going to
get more money for what? Are we going to get sidewalks?
Are we going to get anything that's actually going to start
helping the community? Or are these more things that
are going to lock people into shitty jobs that don't pay
enough? And for what?

(38:24):
Just so the businesses can laterreplace them with robots anyways
and then leave the community. To starve.
I'm not challenging anything you're saying because it's true.
I just been realizing lately that like we want to deem things

(38:52):
as like this huge threat that's like going to end things.
We kind of went on this. We always talk about the the
ending of the the death of the water.
Holes. The death of the water holes,
yeah. But I think that we should like
start trying to leave some room to the fact that we're getting

(39:15):
older and like we're maybe it's happening faster today than
before. I don't know, But we're watching
the world around us change out of a world that was ours to a
world that isn't ours anymore. And this is the same thing that

(39:37):
like the Boomers are dealing with and like Gen.
X is starting to deal with now that they're getting pretty
fucking old. But I really think that.
So like what I'm saying is that everything you're saying is
true, but the little bit of roomI wanted to like leave is like

(39:58):
the world is just changing. And like, maybe we're not going
to fit into that world so nicely, but like, it's really
not a world meant for us. And like the kids who were
coming up with whatever the world's going to be, like,
that's going to be their world. And it's not going to be this
like devastating thing to them because it's what they know and

(40:19):
it's like their culture and. It's their part of the in the
timeline of history. Can I dance with you on this?
Like can we go do a little mini debate like play all the all the
different sides of this? Yeah, yeah, I'll try.
Because this is a good topic that I like that we've landed.

(40:40):
I'm only like acting reluctant because I actually don't feel
like as passionate about this idea as like I might be coming
off as. So like to debate it.
Like, yeah, yeah. But I'll dance with you all.
Right, Dance with Me 2. Two different things.

(41:02):
I guess. First of all, I want to say that
photo that you took after we hadthat conversation of like, I
think it was Sears being like gated up.
Yeah. Sick as fuck, Sick as fuck.
Find that on your Instagram. Yeah, I look at it two different

(41:23):
ways. I think what you're saying is
valid from the perspective of, like, the world changing and
people wanting to fight the change.
I think that's a real feeling. Yeah.
I think my hold up and my resistance comes from a personal
understanding that I at least I feel like is an understanding

(41:46):
rather than a feeling, if you'reunderstand what I'm saying about
that. And my understanding is like,
I've been listening to this bookrecently.
This book is called Oh Let Me Get It up, Stolen Focus, Why You

(42:13):
Can't Pay Attention, and How to Think Deeply Again by Jo Johan
Hari, Johan Hari and throughout this book.
He. Goes on or they go on.
I listen to an audio so it's a male voice.

(42:35):
I don't know if that's the actual author or not.
Throughout the book, they're talking about all the different
ways like attention is being almost treated like a currency
and being stolen or taken away. In all the different ways that
our attention is affected by things and all the things that

(42:57):
influence our attention and our brain make up and thing things
that happened to us when we're young and when we're older,
everything like the whole. It is the most in depth.
It's I fucking love books like this.
And that's why I love podcasts because they really, it's really
well sighted, gets really into the weed.

(43:17):
It's one of the reason why I listen to so much Lex Friedman
is because of the deep conversations he gets into with
professionals that he does have on his podcast.
Yeah. So my pushback here is going to
be there's a point in that book where he starts talking about.

(43:44):
Right now in the tech technologyage, with all of these things,
with all these smart devices, with everything that's going
out, pollution, there's, I mean,like you really would have to
almost listen to the book to understand the argument that I'm
going to about to make. But it's like every corporation,

(44:07):
everything, everything that exists in society has been
chewing away and destroying our ability to focus.
And there's so much science behind it to show that that's
what's happening. And it's gotten this way because
nobody has stood up to stop people from doing it, to stop

(44:32):
pollution from being as bad as it is to stop.
When I say pollution, it's like there's a section where they
talk about how lead and gas, it creates scenarios where like if
you live within 50 meters of a busy Rd. that pollution from the
lead and the gas statistically has like 50% higher rate in

(44:57):
seeing kids or people with theirbrains developing to have the
same kind of like lesions and issues that somebody with like
lead poisoning would have. And there's just so many
different things throughout thisbook.
And I'm saying all this because it's like my resistance isn't so
much to things changing. My resistance lies within this

(45:20):
idea that like, the world is being stolen away from the youth
right now for the rich. And I really believe that.
And unless people actually speakout and say something about it,
it's just going to continue getting worse.
Like they want your attention tobe sucked up so much into

(45:42):
whatever smart device, whatever screen, whatever you're looking
at that there is no more world left for you to consume because
they want that all for themselves.
And it's like, well, at what point?
So like we let all the, we let, we let these companies, we let
technologies, we let the world be polluted.

(46:03):
So it's like we there's a momentin the book where he talks about
this day that was created, I think in the United Kingdom or
somewhere in Europe. And it was like a free play day.
And they let all the kids in theschool for one day just play, no
schooling. And the first day they ever

(46:24):
introduced it into the school, this big gymnasium, they Legos,
all kinds of stuff. This is he's doing writing this
book during the pandemic. There's this initial moment.
And I was like, I cried at work when he started talking about

(46:48):
it, where they say, OK, you're free to do whatever you want.
And some kids went and started playing and just like making up
their own games and stuff. But there was a large section of

(47:08):
kids that didn't know what to dothat there was this one kid,
like they said in the book, it was like this one kid just went
over in the corner and went to sleep.
And it's like there was so many teachers standing, like baffled

(47:29):
that there was all these kids that didn't even know how to
play anymore. Like the concept of free play,
just like going and playing. There's like moments in the book
where he talks about like, when we were young, we had
opportunities to go outside, build a Fort, do these things.
And these kids have now spent somuch of their life inside of a

(47:53):
screen that given the opportunity of freedom to do and
make their own decisions and to play as they want to play, they
don't even know what to do. And I just started crying at
work because it's like, what have we done to the youth?
Like, what have we let these industries, the greed do to the

(48:17):
youth, the people that are supposed to take over the world
after us? Like we've we've let them all
become prisoners. We've let them have their
attention stolen. We've let them these these
entities exist, destroy the way their brains work, destroy their
ability to focus, take everything from like what we

(48:41):
understand that still to this day helps develop a functioning
brain, a healthy brain that can take on the task for the world
and critically think and focus long term and do the things
required to be able to not constantly feel like you're in a

(49:02):
fight or flight frenzy from likeADHD.
I mean, it's like, yeah, we the world that is being created is
not for us, the youth. It is being air quote created
for the youth, but I don't thinkit's being created for their

(49:25):
benefit. I think it's being created to
enslave them in a in a differentkind of way.
Right, right. And it's our job to resist that
as much as we can because they can't fight that fight right
now. Like, and by the time they're
able to fight that fight, it'll be too late because even on the
like a biochemical level, I don't even like you could almost

(49:50):
make the argument you don't evenknow if they'll be able to
physically do it anymore. I don't know.
It's a lot. I think a little bit of
respectfully. He doesn't frame it like that in

(50:14):
the in the harshness that I am, but when presenting the studies
and the things that are happening, like these are things
that are happening and I'm making my own deductions based
off yeah, because you can see where the paths lead.
Yeah. He, he referenced a moment in
the book where it's Mark Zuckerberg in a room full of

(50:39):
people with VR headsets on, and he's the only one without AVR
headset. And he's just looking around,
smiling. And it's like, in my mind, it's
like, it's this most nefarious situation, like, they got you
trapped. Like they, they are going to

(51:01):
occupy you in the virtual world,so you never get to experience
the freedoms of the real world. Otherwise he would be wearing
one, too. Right there with you.
Yeah. It's so obvious.
And we're walking wilfully into it.
At least that's how I view it. Yeah.
I, I'm not going to challenge what he is writing about with

(51:26):
the science he evoked at or I'm not going to challenge how you
feel about it, What you just expressed.
The only thing that I wanted to say was that I was going to say
respectfully, I think that mightbe a little bit narcissistic of
our generation, of our generation to like make the
claim that like whether they will or won't be able to do

(51:51):
anything about anything. Fair.
And like, I think I think they'll be cool 'cause like I
think that they're, they will bea part of the world that they're

(52:13):
a part of. And whatever that consists of,
they'll make the best of whatever tools they have.
And I think, I think at the end,humanity comes through and it'll
just come through in their own way.
Can I challenge this? Just if we hang on this idea of,

(52:33):
like, them being cool, I think that's the problem.
And this goes to, like, what we started talking about, I think,
this morning a little bit. Yeah.
When we were texting each other back and forth.
I almost want to say, like, a rat in a cage isn't upset that

(52:56):
it's a rat in a cage if it's only ever lived in the cage.
Yeah, but doesn't make it right.Right, but that's the part I
have a problem with. Like who are we to say what's
right or wrong? There's got to be a line like
what about OK, so let's use humans then instead.
A child who grows up in slavery and was only ever known slavery

(53:21):
in his country, which exists today in the world.
Facts. Is it right that they only know
slavery and experienced slavery and they're, they're like, this
is how life is. It's like it's very, I feel
like. Yeah, no, that's a very good
point at. Some point like we really have

(53:41):
to be able to intervene as people and understand like there
are oppressors in the oppressed.Yeah.
And I guess it's like, where, where do you want to draw the
line? And I feel the the malicious
thing about attention because it's so important in everything
we do is that, and I've made this argument for years, I've

(54:05):
made this argument on the podcast before, like time is the
commodity in this case, it's that we're talking about
attention, but it's the same breath.
Like attention and time are the same thing.
Everyone's fighting for your time.
That's the monetary value. Here is your time.
They want to steal your attention because that brings
them a monetary value of time toacquire more data to keep you

(54:31):
from doing other things. It's like, at what point do you
do we draw the line where it's like the oppress are the people
that are having their time stolen.
Because if they're being broughtinto a world and given a drug
from birth that is so addictive that they literally can't help

(54:55):
themselves from checking it every 3 seconds, and then we're
like, well, that's just the world they live in now.
It's like we got them messed out.
Is that really fair? And then and then you want and
then you have to introduce, well, who's benefiting from it?

(55:20):
Oh, there's people that are making billions of dollars from
the youth. This is my argument.
This isn't the same argument being made in the book from the
youth having their attention stolen from birth and being
indoctrinated into a system of addiction through technology and

(55:40):
having their time and attention stolen away where they otherwise
might have been doing something that might actually interest
them. Because for one of the sakes of
the conversation, or for the sake of the conversation he

(56:02):
mentions it all attest to it. You can probably attest to it.
In our inability to focus, in the struggle to maintain our
focus, we all berate ourselves and put the onus of, like,
having to focus on ourselves when we so desperately wish we

(56:27):
could focus on the thing that wereally want to do.
And it becomes such a difficult task.
And it's lit. That's not healthy.
Sorry, Crunchy came in here. He's, like, lifted away by

(56:47):
posture. Yeah.
It's the final Rep. That's the you know, that's when
you stop. Derailed.
What was I saying? That's funny.
They want to do what they actually want to do.
Yeah. Had they not, have we not had

(57:10):
this issue with attention delivered to us, Had we not had
these things pride away from us,how much more time and focus
would we have for ourselves to do the things that make us
fulfilled and not feel so terrible about our own inability
to focus, so terrible about where we haven't gotten so do
the things that we really want to do.

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And that is probably a real shared experience and will be a
continued shared experience for the foreseeable future.
And even more so, as the problemof attention keeps shrinking and
shrinking, You're going to have more and more people struggling
to, like, really find not only anchors and things that they
really care about, but the motivation and the focus to do

(57:58):
the things they care about because that's being taken away
from them, too. So it's like the piece of the
resistance is, yeah, well, if wedon't fight that fight now, like
maybe in the future when the youth is finally old enough to
be in our position, it'll be toolate.

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It'll be like, this is an awful comparison, but like the other
druggie on the street corner that if you don't give them
their drugs, like you almost you're the bad person because
they might OD. So now you're just like, well,
now we just need to keep them inthe cycle.
See, it's hard. I don't agree with everything

(58:42):
you're saying, but it's hard when I do agree with a lot of
that that that you're saying. How do you feel about all the
stuff you're expressing in relation to like what we dealt
with 20 years ago, Right? Let me preface it with this.
A lot of my peers who have kids my age and doing this parenting

(59:03):
thing, I hear a lot of time likescreen time, screen time for the
things, right? And I always tell people stop it
with that screen time shit. You're doing the right thing, I
think. You don't belong to that world.
You'll never understand whateverthat world that's manifesting
itself right now. You'll never understand it.
You'll never be a part of it. Let them learn as much as they

(59:26):
can learn. I think that's a real sentiment
too, though. Because let's take it back 20
years ago at the birth of YouTube, at the birth of like a
lot of the games that we're going to set the foundation for,
the games that we're going to open the doors to streaming to
people, right? And a lot of our parents

(59:48):
criticized us for it or said a lot of these things right and
wanted to butt in and wanted to resist it and wanted to stop us
from it. Where would we be right now, 20
years later, if that wasn't the case?
So taking something like that, how does it relate?

(01:00:17):
I think I think the question lies like inside of preparing
you for the future through your youth and through the developing
technologies. It's critical to be involved so

(01:00:38):
that you can grow with the technologies around you.
As a young person, I understand that argument so you can fit
into the world as it grows with you.
We were all coding 20 years ago and our parents were bitching at
us to get off the computer. We were literally coding.
If that never got interrupted between resistance from our
parents and corporations like Facebook who kind of put it into

(01:01:01):
the coding era, if that never happened, we would have a whole
generation of coders right now. Am I?
Am I right or am I right? More than that, I mean some of
the most, some of the people nowwho are the air.
Quote shut out the Myspace. Famous people that get consumed

(01:01:24):
the most by young people are people that moved into content
creating years ago or, you know,had people before them that did
all the hard work so that it's too simple for them.
I just think there becomes a point.
There's this thing that happens in rockets and boat building and

(01:01:52):
engineering and building houses where things read or building
weapons. Things reach like a critical
mass where like, OK, the economy, a bubble.

(01:02:15):
Like eventually the bubbles burst.
And I just think at some point the negatives eventually start
outweighing the positives because we have to also, while
having this conversation about not depriving young people of

(01:02:38):
the technologies that are going to catapult them into the future
and allowing them to integrate and understand and utilize these
things and understand the systems, be involved in the
systems, be a part of what's being created.
You have this other hand of at what point is it going to be to

(01:03:05):
their detriment? Because while technology is
rapidly evolving, we ourselves, I want to go back to like the
building, the Fort thing when wewere kids and we went outside

(01:03:27):
and built forts and played outside.
The reason why that's important in this concept of free play is
important to allow kids to like create their own games and not
hover over them and tell them how to play and do is because
they're interacting and interfacing with the world and
figuring out how how to work with other humans and how to fit

(01:03:53):
into structures. That's tapping into something
that's very primitive inside of us.
That's like core to like our DNAand we're like reliving this
thing of like what it is to be human.

(01:04:13):
And I don't think biology has caught up to where the
technology is is and where they want the technology to be even
in the next 5 or 10 years. Yeah.
And I think that's where the ME saying this critical mass, it's
like that's why there needs to be the resistance is because at

(01:04:39):
some point it's like this stuff will be extremely negative
outcomes for like our own biochemistry.
Like we're not built. We don't have millions of years
of evolution to exist with what this is doing to our brain.

(01:05:02):
We have millions of years of evolution to go outside and free
play and build a Fort and figureout how to fit into structures
with the world around us that way.
Like, this is like levels beyondthat.
So that's why the resistance is important.

(01:05:22):
It's because like we have to acknowledge that we just haven't
caught up yet and the driving force of capitalism doesn't
care. Right.
Or you could take capitalism outof the equation.
But it's convenient because we live in a capitalist society.
They don't care. It's only about the bottom line.

(01:05:46):
Yeah, if that requires them to hijack like an entire generation
to generate whatever they want to make.
No, that's absolutely true. They'll do it.
That's such a great point and really like that.
Yeah, we, I, we agree on that, that completely.

(01:06:09):
I can actually, I can offer you a genuine challenge on with the
maybe something the dude was saying in the book.
One thing, or at least for my kids and for my peers kids,

(01:06:32):
they're addicted to the phones, especially this new brain rock
game. It's really been bananas.
There's a specific game called Brain Rot.
Or like, wait, really? Yeah, and I tell my kids all the
time I'm like, that's ironic that, you know, you guys are
fucking right. Brain playing a game called

(01:06:54):
Brain rot. It really is bad.
Yeah. It's so stimulating to them.
And it's just caused a lot of fights and problems.
And so we're figuring out how tonavigate that one.
I told them the other day, I tryto keep it real with my kids.
I told him we were we were like walking into Walmart or
whatever. Like this is a just all you guys

(01:07:17):
don't understand this, but you're addicted.
It's too late. Like you're already addicted.
So this is going to affect you emotionally and and you're going
to have to like go through like a series of things inside when I
take this motherfucking game from you.
And I'm thinking that I'm going to have to take this
motherfucking game from you. And I haven't yet, but I'm

(01:07:40):
trying to figure out how I'm going to handle it because it
absolutely is an addiction and astimulate stimulation problem
for them. But The thing is, is that
they're still building forts. It's still going out and still
using their imagination. It's like kids are still doing
both. They're not just locked into

(01:08:02):
that. Maybe some like my kids, I can
only speak for mine. In cities it's more of a
prominent thing then maybe wherewe I when I say cities, I mean
cities. Cities like you think like a
herb. When I say urban, I mean like a
concrete jungle where like you have no room for outside play.

(01:08:22):
Yeah, people are locked in theirhouse.
Houses is way more of an issue. But I'm sorry, I don't want to
derail you. Some of my kids, like if they're
all, they'll play all day long if I let them, literally all day
long. But after a couple of hours, if

(01:08:43):
I go in there and I'm like, all right, let's go out to the Bay
or anywhere, let's go on an adventure.
Half of them, no problem, drop the phone, let's go, they're
ready to go. The other half they're like
walking out the door, still trying to play it.
My youngest daughter's the worstwith that.
She was like, we went grocery shopping the other day and she
played from laying in bed to getting dressed and getting her

(01:09:06):
shoes on all while playing, walking out the door, getting in
the car, played the whole ride to Walmart and then was walking
through the parking lot still playing.
And I was telling her I'm like, what's the rules supposed to pay
attention? I teach my kids to pay attention
in public. Pay attention, someone can hit
you right now, you wouldn't evenknow because your fucking face

(01:09:27):
is in the phone. Someone can snatch you and run
off. You wouldn't even know.
All right, But I said all that to say that I think that it's
based on the person, just like with anything else that's
related to addiction and stimulating stimulation like it.
I think it's just based on the person like and how they respond

(01:09:49):
to to to that shit. Damn, what was the other
challenge I actually had? They're still.
Going out and building ports. I lost the other one.
We've had millions of years of learning how to do this other

(01:10:10):
thing, not and. As far as like the classroom
scenario that was given when they like let the kids have free
play. My only concern with that is
that like, I don't, I don't knowif I I would consider that being

(01:10:32):
like them not knowing what to dowith free play because kids are
kids and kids will always be kids.
But the reason like that strikesme as odd is because I feel like
it has more to do with being overwhelmed with the freedom.

(01:10:57):
And I'm realizing as I'm talkingright now, my challenge is
coming from the place as a parent dealing with children.
He mentions that though what you're saying.
Saying what? I didn't even say it.
The the the challenge of like what to do with the freedom.
That's why he advocates for the the free play freedom itself is

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because unless kids are given the the ability to try to do
something with freedom, they don't know what to do with it.
Like it's a the act of understanding what to do with

(01:11:47):
freedom requires you to have thefreedom in the 1st place to try
to overcome that. Like if if you're a kid who's
never been given the freedom to do what you want to do and your
parent has always like helicopter parented you.
That's why the free play momentsare important is because like in

(01:12:10):
that free play, in that world building in your interaction
with trying to do things and figuring out what that means,
that freedom means. That's your first interaction
with that freedom. And if you're never given that,
you're like almost being robbed,a tool to utilize for yourself
because you're so used to being helicoptered all the time and

(01:12:33):
having everyone tell you what todo and you don't know how to
operate as an individual. I think I can describe it best.
Like what An example, I, when I take my son to the candy store,
go to the Amish market, it's a whole wall full of candy.

(01:13:01):
I take them in there and I go, you got one bag of candy,
whatever you want. And I'm talking about a whole
wall, wall to wall, whole wall of just every kind of.
Different. You make me smile just thinking
about a wall to wall candy shop.You can pick whatever bag you
want and he stands, he's like stands there and looks, looks at

(01:13:25):
everything and we're like stand there.
I swear for like 30 minutes and he has no fucking idea what he
wants. He can have anything.
All the times we went in there and he dreamt of getting
something, all that he knows what he wants.
Like he does, it's in there he knows.
But like he's so overstimulated by all the choices, like the

(01:13:48):
freedom of getting whatever whenI want.
And then I realized that when I take him in there, I know what
his like. She's.
Favorite 5 candies are children.I know what like five of his
favorite candies are. So now I go in and I say this,

(01:14:14):
this, this and this, whichever 1you want.
And he goes this one and we're out in less than 5 minutes.
So like with children, I really think that children don't like,
like with that scenario, I just feel like as a parent who deals
with it and myself being ADHD, but also my children, it's like,

(01:14:41):
I think that they were probably so overwhelmed by like being
able to do whatever they wanted that they didn't even know what
they actually wanted to do. Interesting.
I think my mind immediately wentto this other scenario.
He didn't say it specifically. My mind went to this a scenario.

(01:15:03):
The scenario of. These like there's like a almost
like a derogatory term nowadays,like iPad kids or tablet kids.

(01:15:26):
And like, the cliche is that these kids are like, basically,
like, drooling zombies and that all they know how to do is,
like, stare at the screen and drool and have snot coming out
their nose and just, like, stareat a screen that's playing

(01:15:47):
videos for them. Yeah.
And because that's all they do. And that's all they're
interested in doing. So like, the moment the tablet's
taken away and they're like, OK,go play.
Kid doesn't know what to do. It's like you're literally
introducing them to a completelydifferent reality that is not

(01:16:08):
their reality anymore. That's what I imagined.
But that's true. I see the point you're making
too. I, I, I think about cocoa melon.
Like I see this cocoa melon stuff and I see the color, even
just the colors they use, like the vibrance.

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Yeah. And all the stimulation
happening. And like, I'm like, this used to
not be the case to this extent. Like there was things to capture
your attention. I mean, like we'll take
something simple Mr. Rogers puppets.
The puppets are there to captureyour attention.
Like these things happening on the screen are there to capture

(01:16:51):
your attention. But it it hadn't gone as far as
to the point is where now it seems more so it's not just we
need to do something to capture their attention.
It's like we're going to hack these kids.

(01:17:15):
We need to hack people so they stay paying attention.
Like we're going to use these bright colors, these specific
kinds of bright colors that we know that even in like, let's
say capitalism and supermarkets,like, oh, you want somebody to
go spend money, you put a red sign because red will trigger

(01:17:39):
somebody to look at it and they'll associate it with sales.
And it's like they put a bright red ball or, you know, whatever
on the screen. It's like now it's like, no,
we're doing this intentionally every whatever, how many seconds
these certain specific colors sothat we're hacking their

(01:18:03):
attention. I'm like, at that point, like at
what? Or maybe not at that point, at
what point do we be like, all right, you guys shouldn't be
able to just fucking hack peopleto keep them hooked, hack people
to keep their attention on things.
That's more like what I'm concerned about when I say those

(01:18:24):
kind of things too. Like, well, let's just that was
more of a side tangent. You had something to say about
the tablet kids. I just think like there's a lot
of shit is just repeated over and over and over again and I
think. Like they'll be alright.
I think in this world you have consumers that are zombied out

(01:18:47):
about anything. I mean, you could take it all
the way back to the boomers, anygeneration really, but you had
the ones who religiously watch the news network all day
everyday. And then you had those who were
just like never watched TV in their life and out there
creating or out there grinding or whatever.

(01:19:10):
You want to have people who are going to be consumers and you're
going to have people who are going to find ways to exploit
the the system for themselves. Jesus was saying because I say
that because we started the. Conversation.
Yeah, it started the. Conversation was saying 2000
years ago, like resistance and the end of humanity is coming.

(01:19:31):
And every hundred years after that we've been saying the same
thing. It's just like these blank spots
where you remove a word and put a new word there.
You know what I mean? Like we do that with everything.
Like we could think of all the things that was condemned to
evil that was going to just wreck humanity when we got

(01:19:51):
older, he was going to corrupt us.
And like, come on. We went through all through that
in the late 90s and and early 2000s, right?
And it's like, no, actually, we adapted to our world.
We all learned the values we were supposed to learn.
And look at us. What are most of us doing?
We're bitching and trying to spread love like.

(01:20:13):
It's cool, it's cool. And those, they'll figure it
out. They'll find their ways to
spread love and spread resistance and and all that.
But I really just did all that because you asked me to.
Yeah, I asked you to dance with it.
I didn't mean everything that I said, but I did also agree with

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a lot that you said too, because.
Feels like a delicate. Balance.
What's that? Feels like a delicate balance.
At the very least, we need resistance for balance.
Beautiful. Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, that that's beautiful. Well said man.
Let's let's talk about Carl Young, OK?

(01:21:00):
Because you, you went into what?You've been like the rabbit hole
you went into. Yeah, let me go into just a
small part. Yeah, no, RIP it off.
Learning about like different, like what what young would call
Young would call like different perceptions, right?

(01:21:26):
And there's like a small list ofwhat, what he calls like
dangerous perceptions. And one of them is the one that
I'm interested in talking about.It's it's a perception you would

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have when your ego inflates to the point where you genuinely
believe that you're the bearer of absolute truth.
Like that millionaire guy who stole the hat from that kid.

(01:22:14):
I don't I don't see the relevance, but tell me.
The relevance is when he got scolded for stealing that hat
from the kid at that tennis tournament.
Yeah, he just doubled down. It was like, this is the winners
mentality. Like suck it up, deal with it.
This is like either you either you take or take him from

(01:22:37):
basically man, everyone was like, you're a fucking evil
person. You're a piece of shit.
That person really is evil if they really said that is a piece
of shit that was that really pissed me off saying that shit.

(01:22:59):
Damn man. But bears of absolute truth.
I was thinking like my mind wentto religious folks, Christians,
it's like, but it's not, it's not, it doesn't stop there.
It's really it, it doesn't matter what you believe.

(01:23:19):
It could be philosophy, it couldbe anything.
But the moment that you like getto the point where you, you
realize that you got it all figured out and like, you know
what is what? Like what happens after you die?
Oh, you know for sure. And like you're confident that
you know, you're the bearer of absolute truth now.

(01:23:45):
Oh, go on, go. On can I like just briefly or do
you have a thought? Oh, sorry, I know you have a
thought. I know you're about to go crazy
on this side. Is it all right if I go on smart
side tangent, the does this apply to this idea?
Sometimes I'll me and my Co worker kind of go like back and

(01:24:08):
forth by this idea of like deathand and like experiencing like
blackness and like nothingness. But we always preface it with
like, I don't know if that's what it is, but I'm surviving

(01:24:30):
yourself. Yeah.
Is that like AI? Guess I'm asking if this is more
of a counterpoint. This is like the opposite of
what you're talking about. Like you having humility in the
face of that, like you have. I feel like you can't ever see
yourself as a bearer of truth when it comes to these kind of

(01:24:53):
things because. If you're healthy, you.
Won't the world is ever changingand to think that you have all
the answers is like crazy. It's like and even if, even if
and the even the most logical person I you can look, you can
think like that might have been my experience, but someone else

(01:25:14):
might have had a different experience full stop.
And that's it. Like to think that your
experience is the only experience is like truly mental
I think. I think so too.

(01:25:34):
OK, so people say I have the answers.
What happens after death? No, I I was just using the death
as an example. Oh, OK.
It could be, I mean business no more of like it could, yeah.

(01:25:59):
Sure. People think there's only one.
Like I had the right way to run a business.
Like this is the right way to run.
I think like let's move more towards like Coty vibes.
OK all. Right you following.

(01:26:20):
Me. Yeah.
So. Like, there's a lot of power
when you believe in your own madness and you're you have
enough charisma to make people around you believe in your
madness too. Yeah, that is a powerful thing,

(01:26:41):
I think. Yeah.
There's something every single human being and I don't
understand it yet, and it's likea very fun lifelong journey
trying to discover this. But every last one of us are
vulnerable to cults. I don't know why but.
Of course. There's like a switch in US.

(01:27:03):
It just, it's just a matter of which one gets to you, which one
can actually hit that switch. And that's a scary thing.
But yeah, I, I, my mind automatically just goes to like
Christians, like the ones who know what is what and like the
ones that say God talks to them to tell them to tell people shit

(01:27:25):
and shit like that. Like you're the bearer of
absolute truth. Like, that one's always weird to
me. Yeah, I I always think like.
Remember that that video I sent you?
I, I, I think about that so muchwhere he's like, and then he'll
say, God told me to tell you. Who is you?

(01:27:49):
I hate I talk to God every nightor something like that, right?
Yeah. It's like my conversation with
God is my conversation. Was that the one?
He was basically saying, yeah, he was.
He was locked in himself like God.
Yeah, God would just tell me I man, I've really that.

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That's another thing that reallyplease me right next to the
prosperity gospel that God told me to tell you.
Bullshit like God. Did God's voice sound a lot like
that voice you hear in your headall the time when you're talking
to yourself 'cause I bet you it,it.

(01:28:32):
Did God tell you to tell me thisor did your ego create this in
your little woo woo brain and now you think you're the bearer
of absolute truth? I wonder if, like why does it
just not occur? For example, we'll we'll go back

(01:28:57):
because I talk about the universe a lot.
Like my experience with the universe is my air quote
spiritual experience, but it's never like that's an N word
thing. Like if I'm going to expound
that or expand that to like other people's experiences,

(01:29:17):
that's not it just doesn't make sense.
Like it's a logical to me because everyone's experience is
different and whatever God they believe in.
First of all, this idea that I often times think this idea that

(01:29:40):
there's only one kind of God is a bit also funny because in a
world of so much complexity, I think it would make the most
sense in like an infinite universe that there would be
many different gods. If that was true, it would just
be the most logical that there would be many kinds of gods.

(01:30:07):
Why is it always like, I'm gonnatell you what God said and not
just like, well, why doesn't he just tell them himself?
Yeah, like, why can't they just have their own conversations
with their own God and just that'd be what it is.
Like, I don't understand this whole, like it's, it's so hard
for me not to not fall back on like, oh, this is just always

(01:30:31):
like a power thing. This is always like, I'm going
to be the one to deliver the message.
I'm going to be the one that tells people what God is saying.
I'm going to be the one that decides like this is how it's
supposed to be. And it's like people that want
to hold power over other people.Yeah.
It's hard for me not to feel that way.
Yeah. You know how Buddha died?

(01:31:03):
No, I want to talk. I want to go off of the topic.
It's just that, no, I don't knowhow he died.
Is he trying to flex on me? I don't know what he's doing.

(01:31:23):
I'll come out, but I'll come outto share it though.
I got a gut, but I I got muscles.
Coming out here, Twitch going brushing his teeth.
I said the same thing to my my daughter, my kids the other day
a few weeks ago. I'm like y'all always clowning
me about being fat. I started flexing and they stall
the muscles. I said I I really got it.

(01:31:45):
Like you, you, you clown me, 'cause I got a gut, but I really
got it. Took my shirt off.
I'm flexing and my daughter sayslike, yeah, she was like trying
to touch my stomach. I'm like, it looks like a fat
gut. Touch it.
Rock hard guy really does got muscles.
I'll flex on you, son. Shit, but I ain't got nothing on

(01:32:06):
you. Lifting weights right in front
of my face. Yeah, true.
What is this? Not once He's like twice.
What is this like? Gotta get that last Rep.
Flex almost broke his back. Flexing.
He's trying to flex on me. It's like permanent.

(01:32:26):
What is this? It's like just just dumping.
I'm out here preaching the good,the good, the good word of
Christ, love, and empathy. He's like, there's another man
in the house. Shit, that's just like, yeah,

(01:32:50):
it's I there's two things, I think.
One, yeah, it's fucking terribleto do anything under the guise
of like any messaging that's good for something terrible.
You know what? This is great.
This is, I'm going to give you agreat example of a version of
what you're talking about. All right, cool.
Laid on me how people try to usegood messaging to do nefarious

(01:33:15):
things. You need a minute while you're
looking. I got it.
I just wanted you to have a lookat something.

(01:33:35):
The Buddha died a lot like Muhammad, peace be upon him,
died. That's what made me ask you
that. Now I was on a social media app
and there was this company on this social media app that was

(01:33:56):
doing a survey for their new program and they asked questions
like fill in the blank. We exist to a offer the widest
variety of products, B make a good life affordable, C become

(01:34:19):
the largest global grocery chainand D have the lowest prices at
any cost. Now for being honest, the answer
here is C become the largest global grocery chain, but you

(01:34:45):
won't admit that. Instead you're going to try to
tell everybody and make anyone who fills out this survey pick a
different answer because that's clearly not your motive is to
not become the largest grocery chain.
And then another question is we want to maximize our positive

(01:35:08):
impact on a our shareholders, bethe community, see the grocery
industry, the people in the planet.
Did you did you do this? I haven't, no, it was just on
social media. OK.

(01:35:30):
And I'm like, this is fits perfectly into what we're
talking about. This idea of like, what the fuck
is wrong with people pretending and trying to convince everybody
when everybody knows you're not doing it for the things that
you're pretending to do it for? Yeah.

(01:35:52):
And why even put those other things in there as if like
that's clearly that what we're doing it for?
Yeah. Huh.
Like what is that? What is that bro?
What is that? How does that not just leave

(01:36:14):
like a terrible taste in your mouth?
Like just like fuck off. It goes very.
Much like you're pissing off, You know what that is?
You're pissing on me and tellingme it's raining.
That's what that is. And then it's not even just that
you're pissing on me and tellingme it's raining and then you're

(01:36:35):
making me drink the pee and telland making me tell you it's so
good. You couldn't just piss on me.
You made me drink it and tell you so good.

(01:36:55):
Fucking sick. But I say all that because it
reminds me of like people that try to use religion as like
indicator of their of their moral compass of like what they
do when your actions clearly, absolutely, definitively,

(01:37:22):
without a doubt, no argument hadcontradict what you're saying
that you follow. I don't know why I'm talking
like Seinfeld. How did Buddha die?

(01:37:51):
That was just a filler. No, no, no, no.
I don't want to talk about that.I want to know how good it is.
Yeah, that's sick. That's.
Sick. He.
He ate bad porridge. What?
Yeah, he ate bad porridge. And the crazy part is this is

(01:38:15):
news to me. He he knew it was bad.
He knew he was going. To get food poisoning from it.
In Buddhism. We have this.
Thing where it's it's called taking your alms, but basically
like when you're practicing it'scrazy because there's a lot

(01:38:42):
parallel with what Jesus tried to teach his disciples, but
you're not first of all, you're not supposed to have money or
touch money or have anything to do with money and as far as
you're like human needs go, you're supposed to live off of
charity. Not everyone gives you their

(01:39:04):
money and you live rich and filthy.
More like you only eat if you gobeg someone to feed you mega
churches. Yeah, the facts taking.
Your arms. So basically like that's how
Buddhist monks get there, get fed everyday, like there are

(01:39:26):
people, feed them, right? And then in return you get a
blessing or a story or a value or whatever.
And it's so like reduced. That.
You. It doesn't matter what you are
given, you have to eat it. And like, you're only allowed to

(01:39:49):
use one bowl. You can't use multiple utensils
and shit. So like if one person offers you
spaghetti and one person offers you strawberry ice cream, guess
what? Both of them go into the bowl.
You have to eat it. Interesting.
And you're not allowed to reject.
Food that's given. To you as charity, especially in

(01:40:12):
that position. And the Buddha knew that.
So even though he knew it was bad and he knew it was going to
make him sick, he ate it anyway instead of breaking one of his
virtues and he died from that food poisoning.
I don't know what you would derive from that story.

(01:40:33):
Some. Take compassion from.
It and some take stupidity from it, whatever you want to chalk
it up to in your opinion. But I mentioned it because the
other day I was listening to this debate with this one
Christian dude, David Wood. I really have a disdain for him

(01:40:54):
and he. Didn't think he's really like a
hateful. Person, he ought to be careful
because I feel like God checks people like him, but he was in
the middle of a debate and he said some awful.
Shit. That I didn't even know.
But the way he said it was so hateful.

(01:41:16):
A young Muslim brother came up and it was the Q&A part of the
debate and he was asking them something about it.
And really David Wood was takinga shot at his faith and started
screaming in the mic and was like, how did Muhammad die?
He died from food poisoning. And I was like, I had no idea.

(01:41:37):
And I did a little research to learn how Muhammad peace be upon
him, how he passed away. And it was similar to the Buddha
story where like he essentially got food poisoning and he had a
he suspected that the food was bad, but.
Same kind of. Scenario He's not going to

(01:41:57):
reject charity. How'd Jesus die?
That's what the guy should have said back to him.
I'll never under. I'll never understand.
This like approach to. Trying why people take that

(01:42:18):
route? Because they're the bearers.
Of absolute truth. In my mind.
I would, I would think to myself, wouldn't you?
Want to? Show the world how
compassionate, how understandinghow in so many in avenues of
human society being the more airquote civil individual shows

(01:42:43):
like you're on a a higher pedestal.
So why would you ever do something like that?
You know what I mean? Like you are giving great.
Maybe grace is humble, Be humble, bless you like.

(01:43:04):
This is. That's your.
Opportunity to like. If I, if I'm a speaker for
religion, every opportunity I'm on a mic or in front of somebody
other than myself is an opportunity to show the world
what I stand for and why it's like so great.

(01:43:28):
So I just never clock in my mind.
Like it really just doesn't makesense.
It's like telling me the black Rd. is white.
It's like, why would you ever berude and unkind?
And. Uncivil and aggressive or
violent towards somebody else tobelieve differently in you when

(01:43:50):
you're trying to espouse like some kind of moral or religious
superiority, It's like that's the counterintuitive thing to
do. Like that's not what achieves
that goal. And an argument doesn't even
have to be about religion. You're not going to win many

(01:44:10):
arguments if every time you get into an argument.
With somebody, you demean them and.
Treat them like shit. Nothing fruitful comes out of
yeah, it just begets more yeah. Hatred.
But. You might be able to win them
over with kindness and. Compassion and understanding and
finding common ground. And you know, I don't, I don't

(01:44:32):
want to say civilized things, but like how being a good
person, let's say just being a good person.
But here we are, and it still happens all the time.
It's just one of those things I really struggle and I've always
struggled to understand. Yeah, I feel like now it happens

(01:44:53):
more than ever. Speaking of genocide, did you?
Did you? Did you?
Who was speaking? About genocide, I wasn't
speaking, but what? The fuck?
You have voices in your head? I do a few Jesus Christ and one

(01:45:15):
of them was just talking about. The genocide in Palestine, but.
OK. Did you see the the video I sent
you earlier on TikTok with the history joke?
The chick did the history joke. I was screaming.
I don't think so. She goes when you tell a
historian that you're German. They'll say.

(01:45:39):
Oh cool, if you tell. A.
Historian that you were born. In Argentina, they'll say.
Oh, cool. But if you tell a historian I
know is that you're German and you were born in Argentina.

(01:45:59):
They'll say how. Well, do you take bad news?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you're probably a Nazi.
Absolutely. Well.
You're not a Nazi, but someone in your bloodline was escaping
Nazism and went to Argentina. Yeah, that's crazy.

(01:46:20):
We should probably end it because I feel like I'm going
to. Take us in deep waters or get.
Myself in trouble I'm ready for.Like one more good topic.
I'm not saying none of these aregood.
Topics. They're all been good topics.
You know Israel ain't been Israel since like 700 BC.

(01:46:45):
And you know, I've been talking about Palestine and Gaza.
Since I was like 13. I'm 29 now.
That's the. That's the.
Craziest thing in my mind to think about.
Is like, I feel like I, I it's this cycle I feel like 16 years

(01:47:13):
ago. I I was thinking about.
This right because like. You say you've been talking
about this a lot for that. Long and you have, but you
actually. Don't talk a lot about it and I
don't know why but I I feel likemaybe there's a reason why but I

(01:47:40):
was thinking. About this the other day.
You've been researching that? Region since you were 13 as you
just. Said right.
And I've been studying about a little Palestinian.
Political activist. My whole entire life, right.

(01:48:01):
And the thought I had the other day was like, if me and you
actually really sat down and like committed to a conversation
about this, I feel like we couldact me and you could actually
give the complete full human history rundown of that region.
I would I would do the entirety of the ancient world all the way

(01:48:24):
up to the Middle Ages and I feellike from 1900 to current you
would have on lock. And between both of.
Our like knowledge on those two time periods.
We would literally just like layout the whole fucking history

(01:48:44):
step by step. There's no way we couldn't.
We could probably do a whole, yeah, like a whole docu.
Series, I think when I was younger, the thing that
actually. It was my.
Dual motivating force. It's so it's funny, right,

(01:49:06):
because like I'm on the left of things as politics go Bernie
supporter, but I remember I was.Pointing out things.
About Obama and pointing out howbad his foreign policy was and

(01:49:28):
how like awful like our drone strikes were that were killing
innocent civilians and how so I guess like, it's like I've never
really been like on a political aisle.
I've always just been an. Activist if like, if we're going

(01:49:49):
to talk about like. Where alignments go.
It's like I take the human side,Yeah.
And anytime I saw like somebody.In a position.
Of power, killing innocent people or killing people that
didn't have power. It's just always stuck out to me
very wrong, obviously. So I mean, like, I feel like if

(01:50:11):
you're anybody with a decent heart, you would understand
that. So like my hyper focus at that
time was a breakdown of let me see if I can. 2010 I sent this.

(01:50:36):
E-mail. Oh yeah, you've read that on the
pod before. It's just.
Crazy to think about, like even back.
Then. Like all but all of my focuses
were. On the same kind of conversation
like. The topics that I brought up in
this e-mail, it's a 13 year old,2010, nineteen, 9614 year old.

(01:51:02):
1314. Are the same kind of arguments
that not only Bernie Sanders made, but.
The entire. Like initial phases of the MAGA
movement and Donald Trump had made and adopted for like his

(01:51:22):
stuff like this idea of like America First.
Because most of the talking points I used at that age in the
e-mail to my teacher were in theways that we send.
Money. How much money we send?

(01:51:42):
To Israel at the time per year, per day, the and the ways that
money could have been used to help people in.
America. And the things that I had
brought up were green job training job, just jobs in

(01:52:03):
general, providing children withearly reading education, Primary
Health care and affordable housing.
And the ways that money. That's being sent to another
country to oppress people with less power than them.

(01:52:27):
Could have been used to help people that are here in our
country suffering instead. Yeah.
And it's just interesting to look back because like I.
Know I used to have. Such harsh critiques.
Of Obama at the time because of like foreign policy and these
kind of things. And I look back fondly on Obama

(01:52:47):
now while I still like didn't like much of his foreign policy.
It's just, I guess I've always just had this like.
Activist Heart. Where I I care about those
things I care about, I don't know.
They I feel like that very clearly outlines like the things

(01:53:08):
that I think that matter the most that could alleviate the
most suffering at least like at surface level with money.
I really hate foreign policy altogether.
Because just like right now, andmany.
Many other times, and a lot of times actually, that people

(01:53:29):
don't even know about, we've funded civil wars in other
countries in Africa and South America and other parts of the
world that never even been mentioned.
But the part I hate the most andand maybe I'm throwing the baby
out with the bathwater, but I'm always just like fucked foreign
policy all together. Everyone just worry about their

(01:53:50):
own business because why do I have to fund genocide?
Why do I have to fund babies andwomen being murdered?
And I don't even get a choice inthe matter.
No, that part has always been like I'm forced to fund it like
you are. You it's like the.
The system itself like bathes you.

(01:54:11):
In sin, against your will, it's like we're going to make you a
sinful person. No matter.
What if you were a right? Let's let's entertain this.
And then I want to. Maybe like we both tell a funny
story that happened to us recently.

(01:54:31):
It's almost like, let's say Jesus is real and.
Heaven is real. It's almost like the elites know
that none of them are getting into heaven.
So they're like, fuck all you guys.
We're going to make sure none ofyou guys get into heaven either.
Like we're going to make sure all the money that you give us
goes to fucking doing terrible, inhumane, awful things to other

(01:54:54):
humans. So you're so we're all going to
hell. Like we're bringing you the
everyone's going down with the ship.
Like fuck everyone. Like if I can't go, you guys
can't go. And you know, the funny part is
like if that was true, I could totally see that be like if
we're assuming all that stuff isreal, like and also pretend the

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scenario that is happening like that was happening.
I wouldn't put it past though, to be like fucking we're going
to fucking let those poor peoplego to heaven.
Fuck, fuck. Now I got a funny story.
Unless you got a comment off theback of that on Flagrant.
The other day they had this. Ex CIA guy, come on.

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Oh man. And.
He was, he said. Something that really irritated.
Me when they were like when? What's dude I don't care for?
I can fuck. I always forget his name.

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He brought up Israel and he he was like giving the whole like
his whole take on it to ex CIA guy and he goes. 1st of.
All we got to remember that Israel is the actual state, and

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Palestine is not a state, and it's never been a state.
It's just a area, like a district inside of Israel.
Akash. Yeah, that just grinded.
My gear so much. Because.
Like. Like the historian in me is

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like, yeah, you're so wrong. Like you're so wrong.
Like obviously ex CIA, you're probably doing that on purpose.
You do know better. But he wasn't saying that.
Just to be facetious, no, I think he was trying to give a
real. Genuine justification.

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That's crazy and. I looked like I wanted.
I I kind of knew like a lot of the.
Ancient history because like, you know, just lots of research
on on Babylon and Nebuchadnezzarand Assyrians and the Persians

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and like a lot of what happened to those ancient Semitic tribes.
And like I said. It hasn't been Israel since
like. Since the Babylonians sent them
into exile, which almost a Simon.

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Simon, What's the word? A SIM when you get rid of them.
Oh, I don't. I don't think assimilation.
Is the right word for that systematic would be like a
systematic destruction. Like maybe assimilating is a way

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of getting rid of things. It's like if everyone
assimilates into a system, like the old things are gone, you've
just become yes, that's the right word then.
OK. That's that's how you committed.
Holocaust in the ancient days when you wanted to distinct
like, distinguish a whole like. Gene of.

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People. Like.
When you want to wipe out the genetic makeup of an entire
race, that's how you would do itin an ancient world.
You would make that entire country, whoever you didn't
kill, you would make them move as far away from their homeland
and then force them to adopt thecultures of the new place you

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sent them to, most of the time as slaves.
And then. So like a cultural genocide.
Yeah. OK.
Yeah. And that's what the Babylonians
did. To ancient Jews, the Assyrians
did it. The Babylonians did it.
The. Persians and Assyrians actually

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gave got took the Jews after exile and actually gave them
their homeland. Back and.
The rebuilt the temple, but and.Even at that point, the whole
region. Wasn't even Israel.

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It was. Judea. 10 tribes of Judea and
like 2 tribes of Israel. Israel.
Was actually the first. One to get conquered by the
Syrians and they try to wipe them out as much as possible and
then later on it was the Babylonians with the.

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With Judea conquering Judea and then sending the Jews into
exile. The interesting thing over the
whole course? Of human history, there's been
one. Group, religious and ethnic
group that's protected the Jews more than any other.

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Religion and. Race of people in all of.
History. And I asked that question like a
few months ago at the end of theepisode and to see if anyone
would answer it in the comments or did somebody answer No, OK,
We kind of just never. I remember when you.
Asked. Yeah, and that's the Muslims,

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even in Jerusalem. Even in the Holy Land, even
during and after the the Arabic Empire.
Muslims. And Arabics have always
protected Jews from their persecutions from the rest of

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the world throughout their wholehistory.
Every step of the way. Every step of the way I feel
like. I do have something to.
Say, but I do want. To say my funny story, although
it's such a. I like what we're talking about
is so deep and and then my funnystories so bullshit and stupid

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like fart joke because this is the whole reason I brought it
up. OK, I'm ready.
Where did Palestine that name come from?
It was actually birthed out of this this this trick that the
Romans wanted to do to the people with the Semitic people
of that region after 70 AD when they had to sack Jerusalem.

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Again to. Kind of put.
These rebellions down and try towipe out the Jewish culture
again for like the fifth time. What they decided to do, the
Roman Empire split up that region and they named it in

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English. It would be Syria Palace.
Palestinian. Or something of that nature.
And the reason they named them that was was the same thing they
wanted to like it was a part of like erasing their culture.
Like we're going to take your name from you.
We want to give you a new name. And that's where so basically

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like and it was Palestine. It kept the name that happened
on like 100 the the first or second century see and it's been
Palestine ever since then. It was part of the Ottoman
Empire and then after the Ottoman Empire.
After World War One. That's when British got control

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over it, and that's where you would take over the history
lesson. But before that point, it was
always Palestine. It's been Palestine since
literally the beginning of this,the beginning of the last
Millennium. I feel like when you're when
you're a history nerd. One of the things you.

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Realize very quickly into being a history nerd is the moment you
start. Like everyone knows this if you
play like real time strategy. Games like.
Online, the moment you start going like east and you go back
in time, it's like, oh, these. Civilizations at.

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The time were so far advanced compared to the rest of the
world. It's like societies.
It is almost like blows everything out the water.
Like there's so much conspiracy and controversy around so many
like Western philosophers and inventors and people that came

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up with stuff because there's somuch controversy about like if
these people came up with these things or if they went to
Eastern societies and learn these things in Eastern
societies and then brought it back to the West and claimed it
as their own. I know there's like 1 like
that's like that with like math and like.

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There's a lot of different things like.
They've renamed the entire empires just because.
They didn't want to address certain shit.
Yeah, it's. So wild.
It's so wild. IE Byzantine Empire.
It's so wild, the Roman Empire. And and.

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And that's. I've I'm just blaming.
Ego, that's my biggest ego is. Just like we've destroyed so
much knowledge for what? For ego, Besides the Terrence
Howard thing and how he was treated.
Whatever. That's a different conversation.
Yeah, another big reason. Like I really kind of get

(02:05:29):
irritated with Neil deGrasse Tyson, mainly.
It's really out of having so much love for him.
That's where all my heart comes from, because I did love him so
much. You probably still do.
I mean, the capacity to be upsetwith somebody definitely comes.
From a place of loving them? No.
No, because all he does is suck Newton's Dick all day every day.

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He sucks Newton's Dick. Newton this, Newton that.
Neil, where did Newton get his information?
All the inventions that he's credited with inventing or
discovering. We need to get you a new who
really discovered it? Who really discovered it?
Who really discovered it? I'll give you a hint.

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It's the same people who invented our numbers, right?
It's the same people who invented algebra.
It's the same people who invented the alphabet.
Anunnaki, you're going back too far now.

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Why don't? Why?
Don't. Might as well just be a.
Rhetorical question. I was just going to say like, I
just don't it's. Crazy to me that.
Like things like this are taughtin real time strategy games, but
then like we conveniently leave these things out through

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curriculum in schools and this and.
That like you only really. Learn like the deep, deep
history through like old books on your own and like gaming
because like nerds you get to know because nerds you get to
know because someone was a nerd about it, like and made a whole

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game about it. You know what I mean?
Like it's like it's the only time.
Otherwise it's like just feed you a bunch of bull crap.
I was at work. Is this your funny story?
I feel. I feels like so.
Bad in bad taste we've had. Such great conversations today.
Like, honestly, this has been a whole vibe.
Well, no, because I want to think of something funny.

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All right, let me tell you my funny story.
Funny lady. So I'm in bathroom right at
work. I had to take a piss so bad I go
into the bathroom. Our bathrooms are one person
bathrooms. You go in.
Toilet, urinal, sink. You lock the door behind.
You. No one else.

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Can come in. I go into the bathroom, I'm
taking a piss, somebody starts knocking on the door.
I'm not in the mood to interact.With anybody, so I actually
don't even say. Occupied.
I just let the man keep knocking.

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He knocks like two more times. While I'm pissing, I still
haven't responded. He starts like jiggling the
door, the door handle, and I'm like, OK, he must really want to
get in here. But sometimes people just think
like the bathroom's stuck or something.
Like I. Don't know what occurs.
In people's minds, but it's like, if you can't get in, maybe

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there's somebody in there, right?
Like maybe just use like your brain for like 2 seconds.
So like maybe if you can't get in, someone's in there, right?
So I'm starting to wash my handsand the fucking bathroom unlocks
like the the lock pops up and hejust.
Comes in and starts. Pissing next to me and I'm like

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I just like no way this is happening like normally as a.
Guy right when you. Go into a bathroom, we're all
lined up at a stall anyways. We're all pissed into the same
urinal. Like it's not that weird, but
it's like, no, like this is intimate.
Like these bathrooms are like one person bathrooms.
You lock the door behind you, nobody else can come in.

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Tell me why this motherfucker this jiggles the door handle
until the fucking door opens up and then just comes in and
starts pissing next to me while I'm washing my hands.
I'm like, I almost wanted to turn to the guy and be like, you
couldn't just wait. Like what the fuck is wrong with
you? Like this is a one person
bathroom dude. I felt like so violated I don't

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even know. Why I felt violated?
Because like I've. Pissed in front of other men all
the time. There's just like one of the
scenarios. I just wasn't prepared for it.
It felt so random. There's a situation over
circumstance or I don't fucking know.
It's like a situational thing. Like any other time.

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I wanted to give a fuck, but it's like, that was my time.
That was my, that's my 5 minute piss.
That's my my alone time. Like get the fuck out of my
bathroom. What are you doing?
Me personally, I think men just don't have enough boundaries.
In that area of bodily functionsand privacy and stuff, I've just

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been a weird guy in that sense because people are just weird.
People are weird. I, I work with people now, like
I have helpers and shit and likewe walk into bathrooms and
stuff. We just stop for bathroom
breaks. I'm I'm not going in, then fuck

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no. You go.
You go first. Yeah.
Oh, there's two urinals. In here a.
I'm good. I'll wait.
That's crazy. Speaking of bathrooms, this
isn't funny, but this is. This maybe?
There's a bit in it I don't know.

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I'm always ragging about how weird I find golf culture.
I swear it's a cult. It's weird.
I was trying to explain. This to my friend today I'm like
I don't. Know like I'm actually cool with
cults. I find cults really interesting
and like I'm cool with rich people, but it's just something

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about rich people in cults when you mix them together.
Like that shit just weirds me out man.
Like some skull and bones type shit.
Rich people love cults, man. Another thing that's weird about
golf? Culture that I notice.
I'm a let your mind come to its own conclusions all the.

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Crackers line up in the earth are.
I go to a lot of golf. Courses not because I golf, but
mainly. Business and I noticed in
country clubs. On the men's bathroom.
There's. Signs that say.

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Any boys under 16 years old are not allowed in the bathrooms
unaccompanied by an adult. And I it just for some reason
struck me as odd. I'm like.
Why would that sign be on the? Men's bathroom.
Take a look Never on the women'sbathroom, only the men's

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bathroom. And I'm like, I'm thinking I'm
like, what? I don't.
What possibly can be the problemthat you won't?
Let. Men under 16 years old go into
the bathroom alone. With other.
Men, It was like, what are you trying to imply?
What are you trying to stop? Yeah.

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And why? Isn't it on the women's bathroom
like? Obviously, this is like a very
specific concern with a very specific demographic.
Yeah. Like, what's the problem?
The best my mind could come up with is that over history, maybe
there hasn't been too many teenage girls golfing like in

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the golfing world. It's usually all.
Men or old ladies, it's never really like young ladies.
I'm not saying young girls don'tgolf, plenty do, I'm sure.
But in that culture, if you go to any Golf Club, Country Club
across the country tomorrow, you'll see like 90% men, boys.

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And if it's women, it's usually older.
And that's the best my mom couldcome up with.
There's just not a lot of. Young girls around that, you
have to worry. About it.
But there's there's a lot of young boys who go golfing, bro.
I'm not saying this is the reason.
I'm trying to make logic. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your mind is saying, oh, I don'twant it to be.

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That they're just saying in general.
Kids. Anyone under the age of 16.
But since there's like no girls under 16 that come golfing, they
didn't bother putting up a yeah,yeah, I sure fucking hope that's
what it is, because I can't fucking think of any.
Other good reason? That they would have a fucking
sign like that only in one bathroom.

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Yeah, that's fucking weird. You got some old rich entitled
never. Faced a consequence in this
life. Old man drunk on whiskey and
smoking a cigar naked in the shower.
What kind of problems you have in here?
This fucking fuck is going on. Yeah, that's why.

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I didn't know there were showersin there.
Yeah, yeah. What kind of cult shit are you?
Doing. Like that?
Like what the? Fuck, now my mind really is
like, yeah, there's some cult shit going on.
Like what kind of indoctrinations are you having
people fucking do at your at your Country Club?

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Like what the fuck? It's like, whoa, wait, alcohol
is involved in this sport. Don't let the boys in the.
Bathroom alone. That's basically what it.
Is that's another good point. But now I but now on my mind is
like. Is it because they think like

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young guys are going to get a hold of alcohol?
I would want that to be the reason over the.
Very logical reason that. None of us probably want to.
Yeah, this shit is crazy. I can't think of a good reason,
Dog. No, I can't.
I'm sorry. I'm trying really hard.
You got the best one. That's fucking weird.

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Fuck golf. Fuck golf.
We should go golfing, my boy said.
That earlier too. I'm good.
I'm I'm just. Not in it.
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good on golfing, man.
You know what I I I told. We could, we could wrap it on

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the up on this. She had two.
And a half hours, my mom's like,mom was like, you want to go to
the gym with me? I'm like I.
Spend my entire. Day at the gym all I do is the
gym. I'm on fucking fight or flight
for like 8 hours straight like tweaking out like I fucking had
600 milligrams of caffeine. Like jumping from the front to

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the back to the side to the doing like 8 different tasks at
a time trying to get everything done with like two other people
to run a whole store. It's like the last thing I
fucking want to do after a day to work or let alone on my day
off is go the fuck to the gym. It's like, I'm like, you ask me

(02:17:05):
all the time. You say, you say, I say how
come? How come you never just say hey,
you want to go sit? By the lake and watch the.
Sunset. I would be like, yeah, Mom, I
would fucking love that. Let's just go sit and watch the
sunset instead, as always. Hey, do you want to come jogging
around the lake? Like it through the woods and

(02:17:25):
I'm like I fucking walked 15,000steps today I don't want to walk
anywhere like stop asking me to do all this crazy shit.
I'm trying to sit down and relax.
I don't want to move anymore I just want to enjoy peace for a

(02:17:47):
moment please. So relatable.
Yeah. Yo, we got fucking Chinese.
Food. Chinese food the.
The lady that always runs it, she she gave, she gave free

(02:18:08):
drinks like life is good, life is good.
Spread love, give love. If you guys walk away from
anything for whatever still 100 is it don't take much to just
spread a little love. Don't take much.
Make the world a little bit better.
Stand on your values. Try to make the world a better

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place. Care about the youth.
Think about yourself. Think about what what you would
have liked someone to have done for you or stood up for you so
that when you grew up you had the same kind of chances.
I think about that a lot. Like when I do things now, I'm

(02:18:51):
like. I think a lot.
About like I always see little tik toks and stuff and it's like
don't think about how you compare to everybody else like
just. Think about like if like.
Younger you would be cool with like older you and like how much
you would take care of like younger you.
Yeah. And I think that's like

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important try to like instill those those things and then try
to help the world that way. Amen.
We got new projects coming we'vebeen cooking up.
Y'all don't know it? New shit soon.
Brainstorming lots of stuff. Facts, lots of stuff.

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Tonight was a little little testarino, little test, a little
testy. Stay tuned.