93. Podcasting in a Garden

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Episode Transcript

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Episode 93 I. Think.
So episode 90, episode 93, the Bro Therapy podcast.
We are out here in the garden reading.
Yeah, yeah, baby. You hear them birds, you hear
them, you hear. Not while I'm coughing.
You hear them eating their food and slurping their.

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You hear them birds and in the background is like.

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Throw the stress out the window.Hot topics best test whatever is
on your hurry in your mind, if that makes sense.
Speak about whatever. No judgment you put in their
head. Let it flow just like what the
other bridge you get on My drift.
A point of view for my story andglitz.
No feel to say what it is undescripted.
No need to watch what you said. It's the truth.

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Hurt Bro therapy is the meds. I said this is the bro therapy
show. I said this is the bro therapy
show. This is that up list to me that
had you. This is that up list to me that
had you blow. I said this is the blow therapy
show. I said this is the blow therapy
show. This is that up list to me that

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had you blow. This is that up list to me that
had you. Blow episode 93 of the Birth
Therapy Show. Episode 93, man.

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You started talking about doing a recording like this, like.
Forever. A couple years ago.
Yeah, I feel like this is how bro there be supposed to be done
low key. I could I could get down with
this. I feel like there's untapped

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potential, you know, so many good hiking spots and like out
the way spots that like doing podcasts out and just like read
like pop up somewhere, backpack out Mike's boom set up have
folding table strapped to the backpack or whatever.
Yeah, set up 30 minutes, hour, whatever.

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Set up video camera up wherever this you're at.
Shoot the podcast there the. Yeah, shoot.
I feel like that's, well, there's a way to do it, do it.
There's a way to do it. The point is, there's a way to
do it. I'm following you brother.

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I feel like there should be a podcast where the camera is only
showing the people's legs and shoes on the video.
What do you think of that random?

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Stuff. I say the random stuff.
The camera is on the ground. It shows both of our feet and
our pants, right? Every episode is like this,
obviously. Like we're not wearing the same
thing every single time. The point is there's a silent

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commentary on people being able to have conversations with
people just because their peopleare, not because of who they
are, what they look like, or whatever.
Just two people sitting down andtalking.
And I feel like you show the camera just on their feet and
their pants just to like as a silent commentary on that.

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And that's the visual for that podcast always like that's that.
That's I like that idea too, Like I you.
Know like you know it. I kind of jive.
You fuck with it, right, It's fire.
It's fire stone, but. No, that's fire.
And you want to know why? You want to know why I would

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like it even more. I would like it even more in a
situation where it's like one ofus sitting down with like a
renowned scientist or somebody or a famous person and all you
see is their shoes and their pants and hear their voice.
So it's like there's still just two people.

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Like it's not like that could like everything else is removed.
It's just like two people sitting down.
I don't know, I really fucked with the idea, man.
This sounds fire. I don't know how to make
something out of that, but that would be dope.
I think somebody should do that.That would be a good ass

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podcast. You giving that idea up?
No, hit me up. Hey, if the right person comes
to me, I will give you that idea.
But it's got to be the right person.

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That's got to be the right person.
It'll be me. We're doing something with that
idea. That's a my.
Mind is the gears are already spinning.
It's really I'm like, do I want to utilize that with this
project, this project, this project?

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That is a good show. I did see This is why you you
got to get in this podcasting game with me.
Hey, man, we're building the empire day by day.
You people can't see the vision that's out there, you know, 30
years down the line. That's why I want to get a big
building, even like or a building period, 'cause even

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though like we just do birth therapy, like I know man, I'm
trying to produce hella shows. Little spaces.
Design spaces. I know once I do get a space
like that, that can be like a public space.
Uh, like studio space to run out?

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Yeah, that would be dope, right?Like have our like all our shows
studios set up but also have studio space for people to rent
like. That coffee shop?
Like that coffee? Shop yeah that was dope yeah.
I think I logged into it it's like a hundred $100.00 an hour

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or something if you reserve it. That's not bad.
No, I wouldn't be upset. It was a really nice coffee
shop, really nice recording space, nice quality prop like
equipment in there. I mean, like, yeah, it's $100
sounds like a lot, but it's they've provided a lot for what

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you're paying. I mean, you can really just go
in there, sit down and have a nice space to report, but still
you're getting something out of having that space, that space is
bringing. In something, yeah.
I just imagine like the essence of like, see, I, This is why I

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probably wouldn't be able to give up that idea because it's
like I, I imagine this essence of like whatever kind of
compassion and creativity went into things like Mr. Rogers
Neighborhood and Reading Rainbowand Sesame Street.
Like these things carry the sameessence of like whatever podcast

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would be that you only show people's shoes and pants, you
know, And then there's needs to have needs to be episodes with
like people from really unfortunate situations too, like
maybe someone doesn't have. Shoes like.
Maybe someone's a little. Those conversations could happen

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too. But that's the point.
It's like it comes from this, like, state of mind, like the
right, it has to be the right situation, the right person.
Yeah, the right everything. Like facts?
Because the underlying message, right, like we're just people to
people, like person to person, let's have a conversation,
right? So right person's got to carry

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that kind of. I hate to be negative.
The downfall to you being such acreative motherfucker is that.
First of all, thank you. The speed and what you move
creatively is the speed of a fucking snail.

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Yeah, I'm going to be 90 before I like even see anything.
That's not true. I don't know big dog.
I don't think it I. Don't think so, man.
We're hitting middle age and time's running out.
Middle age, Yeah, OK, get the fuck out of here.

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Are we old? No.
Are we young? What do you think?
She's older than me, I'm 29. No.
How old are you? Me.
Yeah. How old am I?
You're 30. Oh, wait 4. 3424. 3434.

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How old are you? Grand Slam 29.
I'm 18, 18 you little bitch. Gold is like your 50.
Facts. Facts.
That's middle age, 50 middle age.

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You know what I I, I read the other day?
What? Oh, I'm so glad you said that.
It's really going to be a whole spiel about how America's middle
age is not 100. Nah, listen, someone wrote the
other day on Twitter and I should have fucking saved it.

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It said. It said middle age is not 45 to
60. Stop letting them trick you into
thinking that middle age is thathigh just so you feel better
about working when you should beretired.

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Middle age is 35. And I, it got me thinking, I'm
like, damn. I wonder if that is a narrative
that's pushed right. 30 is the new 2040 is the new 30,
whatever. Like, I wonder if that's a
narrative that's pushed to keep us docile consumers.

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And workers. Just a thought.
Oh, I thought you were going to like continue on that.
I thought there was more to thatthought.
I I just don't think that. What's middle age?

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Guess whatever you really want to decide.
It was like, when do you, at what point do you think, yeah, I
could do one more of these that would be middle-aged?

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One more of these what? One more of these.
If you're middle-aged, that means it's half of your life, so
double of whatever you live. So at whatever point in your
life where you're like, yeah, I could, I could do one more of
these. Oh.
Well shit, it's going to be so cool.

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Huh. The sounds.
Oh, the trains. Just all the sounds.
It's nice, right? Yeah.
Yeah, that comes in and out of the village.

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It's five, bro. Kind of gives me the back to
that podcast thing. Kind of gives me the vibes of
like Seinfeld having a good coffee with Seinfeld or whatever

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kind of energy, you know what I'm talking about.
I'm kind of soaking in this aesthetic here and I ain't going
to say too much, but what I willsay is, man, like this shit's
nice. That shit's going to be nice,

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but I'm fucking hop on that. That's going to be nice.
This is nice. It's like.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a whole.
I appreciate that, man. I appreciate that.
I'm glad that you like see the. Vision like before I reach

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middle age. Nice little breeze.

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Yo, man, I have you. You haven't I don't know if
we're even allowed to play it. Yo, that's, that's what I, I
came across my head. What did that Spotify thing
happen? Because we played the the Kanye

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thing. No, because that was like
soundcheck. OK, that was something that just
like came across my mind. I was like, maybe that's why it
happened. Well, that's just scoochy butt.
Big deal. Nothing happened, thank God.
Nothing happened so far do. You think if I play this, we're

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gonna Is it risky? I'll cut it down to like 7
seconds. All right.
I'm not gonna blare this. I'm gonna play it.
We were. I'm gonna give it to you and I'm
gonna play it quietly because something about it blaring out

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in the open when it's quiet likethis and everyone can hear it is
a little crazy. Uh, so here I can get to it.
Jesus Christ. All right.

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So I can't. Believe.
I can't believe it. You can't believe it.
You do this to me. I did this to you.
How was that experience? How do you feel?
To be honest, because I'm about to talk about it.
I feel like Kanye West is right now what I'm experienced from

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him because like, it's a mindfuck because it's so good.
It's so good, boy, it's so gross.
So it's a mindfuck. I feel like what I'm
experiencing with Kanye West right now is a bad psychedelic

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trip. With like.
You think of a bad psychedelic trip with all of like the
wonderful feelings that can comewith it, but you're like, what
the fuck? I feel like I'm like my emotions
are being fucked by him right now.
Take all, take all controversy. I'm gonna I'm just gonna throw

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ideas out into the ether about interpretation of art and
different ways art can be interpreted.
Let's go up. Kanye West.
You able to hold it for, like, real quick?

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Yeah. How do kids feel about Kanye?
They're. Just they use bananas, huh?
Yeah. He's crazy.
Yeah. Is there any new slang that came
from all the? Shit that Kanye is doing.
Like with Diddy. No Diddy Oh.

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Yeah, no, Diddy. But no.
But there's nothing from Kanye, No.
Do you does do people your age feel like you guys come up with
new trends or do you feel like new trends just appear on the
Internet and you guys follow them?
We just follow them. They just come up when we follow

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them. Why?
There's a trend. You see it, you do it.
But why I? Don't know.
Think about it. If you see everyone wearing
Nikes to school, do you want to wear Nikes to school?

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Yeah, but why? To fit in.
Uh huh. Where are you going with this?
If you are always wearing what needs to be worn to fit in,

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you'll never be someone who makes something that everyone
wears to fit in. So you got to like counteract
the flow sometimes. And in a world of like

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conformity, unless it's like genuinely youth, like if it's
how you feel about like expressing yourself, like
aspire. But in a world of conformity,
like being yourself a lot of thetimes means like breaking the
mold. And like what thing, what the
world is telling you to do? And like, sometimes that's what

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becomes a whole trend in itself.She's got a swag dog.
That's that's Miss Steal your girl.
Oh shit. That is good advice you gave
though, but. I better watch out.
Back back to Kanye. Oh shit, yeah, we were talking
about Kanye. Oh my God.

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All right. If his life is, if his life is 1
big performance art, OK, this man really just said I had the
biggest Dick in the world because he was like, he's like,
I'm going to take the most controversial thing, the thing
that people say. No one's allowed to say that I

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can't say this, that nobody can say this.
I'm going to take that and I'm going to make a song and we're
going to make people like it. Like I'm going to make it so
good that they're going to they're going to have to admit
to themselves that a song that disgusts them, they like it like
low key. In my mind, that's what I I

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think that's like part of the underlyingness.
Although he get he publicly on Twitch streams has given
different reasoning for it. I don't have the exact
reasoning. I probably should, but he talked
about it. I if I could remember it, uh,

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'cause I was watching through some of it today, yeah.
I I I kind of jive with what your theory.
And then I was thinking about this whole other thing in the
world where it's like. There's just, I feel like

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there's so much silent commentary not in like what he's
doing, but like in in creating something like this and making
it have got it's so viral right now.
It's so viral. Right now, viral.
Yeah. I bet, man.

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And it's just like. I bet.
His his whole point what what hewas saying on the stream was as
a artist, I don't want anyone telling me what I can and can't
say. Yeah.

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And this is like the ultimate display of him being like, you
can't tell me what I can or can't say.
I'm basically like a middle finger of like, look, I'm gonna
do the most insane thing and people are going to like it.
And this is proof that you can'ttell me what I can't say.

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It's still, it's still like can be crazy offensive and gross and
all those things. But it's like at the same time,
it is also those things that he made the art to be.
But you can't tell the man what his art is or isn't.
You know what I mean? I agree with that sentiment
there. So if he feels that a particular

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way, like he's valid to that as well.
I. Mean and so are the people on
the receiving end. Both sides have to acknowledge
each other. I just it's part of the dance.
I think like I kind of part of me agrees with him in the sense
of like the expression part. Although there is like somewhere

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in the weeds there where it's like.
If things are going to harm individuals, I wouldn't I don't
think you should make art like that, but that's a personal
that's my you know what I mean? It's a nuance that's crazy.

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That's so crazy. That's really that's that song
is just so crazy it. Is crazy.
It is crazy. It is crazy.
You were going to say. The last thing you said, oh, you
shouldn't make art like that is like.

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No. I hate being in that.
No, I know, I know. Like the position it puts you
in? Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not.
When I said, when I said shouldn't I just like from my
point of view, like on my own art, like I wouldn't make art
that's going to hurt people. Like I wouldn't tell somebody
else they shouldn't make that orthey can't make that.
Yeah, but like, I'm going to think it's wrong.

(25:37):
I'm following you bro. I got a theory too, and the one
probably closely aligns with thetheory you just told us.

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You alright? Yeah, I'm most of them.
It's dark out here. Uh, alright.
I got a rational theory and thenI have my imagination theory.
Not imagination, just my imaginative thinking.

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The rational 1 is, uh, he does nitrous.
Yeah, I was listening to that. He said the past week he said it
in. A couple like interviews, too.
He said it this past week. I'm like, that's it.
We watched Stevo. We know exactly what nitrous

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does to people. And this is like checks every
box off to a tee. And I'm like, it makes it makes
so much sense now. It's the nitrous.
That's what all this is, is the nitrous.
That's probably the most rational thing.
I'm not saying I'm right, but. That's interesting.
I don't agree at all, but that'sthat's really interesting.

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Yeah, I suppose that is a possibility.
Before you commit to agree or disagree if you're unfamiliar.
If you're familiar then fuck it,YouTube sometime just with Stevo
shit. Yeah, yeah, I'm familiar with
Stevo's. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know, to me it seems like bro everything he yeah,

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yeah, but like there was a a version of Stevo right before he
got cleaned. He was real bad on the nitrous.
And the famous photo of him withall the fucking.
Yeah, yeah. Man, but anywho, that I I was
just thinking like, well, that makes a lot of sense, because
that's like nitrous is doing crazy shit to people like that.

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But the other one is it's be crazy if like all this was just
to be like I was actually thinking about this.
This is the question I want to pose right, You do we have a
choice in being offended? How crazy would it be if all

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this was just this show and prove that things only have
power if you give it the power to have outside of physically
hurting or killing people. But like would being offended

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about things. I, I think it, I think it's.
God come from this angle as can you know the the love we have
for the for for the gesture. Uh huh.
You know what I'm saying? Like, let's tango with this
question of being offended. Uh huh.

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Anyway, go on, I'm sorry. I think, I think there's
probably part of it that is justa a mockery of the idea of of
what it means to be offended by something now.
Like whether I agree with it or not is different.
I'm just analyzing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And I think he's like, Oh yeah, like you guys act like you care
about people, but you don't careabout me.
You only care about what I say on Twitter.
He's like, if I'm such a villain, then fucking like, God

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damn it. Anyways, look, he fucking even
just talking about the subject is damn it.
We were doing so good. We're doing so good.
I might be caught Ryan, but likeyo, I need you to record me a
disclaimer please bro. Can you throw a disclaimer on
the episode for it? That's crazy.
Yeah. No, because Spotify will.
It will come up on the thing if you say we can't fuck anyhow.

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It's all good, I'll bleep it out.
The point, The point was, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like it's like he did that as a way of just being like, oh,
yeah, I'm such a bad person. Yeah.
OK, Well here. Look, I'm going to make a song
and I'm just going to say this stuff real quick.
So crazy dog. But like, is it also like, is he
making a parody? Like is he lit?

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Is it him being like, like, whatare you?
Is it him trying to say? What are you upset about?
Like if it's black people pretending to be Nazis, but
you're offended at them and it'slike, well, in itself it's a
contradiction. So like, you're being upset

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about a contradiction, which in most cases is like, well, you're
upset at it for for proclaiming to be one thing when it's
obvious it's not, because it's acontradiction.
I get you. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like, how could you
be upset at that when it's literally not?

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See, I even though it's labeling, even though it's being
labeled, it's labeling it, it's not that, right?
Like it literally can't be that.I think you know what I mean.
Yeah, I do know what you mean. And I think that, like, if
that's the case, he should have just stuck in the KKK stuff and

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then I would have been like, allright.
You know this if you were like, listening to this shit, like out
of context, yeah. Got any point in the pocket?
People are like what the. Fuck, are they?
She's just kind of. But like they they kind of
walking The topic would be off the table for me in that case.
But it's like what he really didlike, was there one other person

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that could be arguably worse than Hitler?
There's probably a few. Actually, there's honestly, the
list is probably really big. Let's be honest, the list is
probably really big. Not even including like not not
including modern day. Right, right.

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Like there's so many people you can put on that list probably.
And I'm sure depending on wherever you were born in the
world, depending on depending where, where, wherever you were.
I think a tree just fell over wherever if a tree.
Falls in the woods and we're doing a podcast.

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Do we hear it? Yeah, that's funny.
Oh man, what was I saying? I'm sorry I derailed you, my
man. What was I saying?
No, you no one paying attention,They nobody know.

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It's cool. We were talking about the the
the camp. You can't say you're upset about
this one. It's the opposite of what it's.
Pretending to be Yeah, oh, we, we were saying that I said that

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there's only probably one other person that could be arguably.
Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that list.
Said a lot of people. Yeah, that list is probably so
long. And then depending on where you
were born in the world, like youprobably have different ideas of
who's on that list, like what, who, what countries people have
oppressed your people and whoever those people are are

(33:58):
probably on that list. And you know what I mean?
Like they it probably is that where you going to get your list
what country you want it from. I don't know why the first thing
that popped in my head, and thisI don't think would be true, but
the first thing that popped in my head is I bet George W Bush

(34:20):
is on that list somewhere. Yeah, but I don't.
Mean it because maybe if Kanye is right in the list.
You know, facts. That's the Kanye we love.
I've been watching a lot of videos of George W Bush lately,
and I'm going to be honest with you, he's probably the one I the

(34:43):
one president I spoke out the most against and probably would
always tell you that I disliked the most.
But the motherfucker kind of grew on me a little bit.
Like now that he's long gone andlike I'm watching all these
videos of him being witty and well, yeah, respectfully witty

(35:04):
and just. He had his dumb moments, but you
know. It's so cute though, and I'm
just like, oh Georgie, I miss you a little bit man.
And I miss them in a. Way that like I miss the cadence
of Obama. Bro I can't wait for them to
release the files on like how 911 happened.
It's like George Bush ordered 911 that we could just clip you

(35:25):
being like man I'll I miss George Bush and then it's like
it turns out George Bush committed 911.
Put them right next to each other.
Crazy. Where were you when 911
happened? Me.

(35:49):
Yeah, that's crazy. Life.
Oh. What do you think about 9:00?
11 That's why we can't trust you.
That's the rules. If you were born before 911, we
can't trust. You.
What do you know about 911? What do you think about it?
Are you talking about it in school?

(36:10):
No, no one talks about it. What do you know about it?
I What do you mean? What is it?
Oh like a plane crashed into the2 twin tower but or I don't even
know I never learned about it. It's ancient history, man.

(36:30):
You know what Pearl Harbor is? No.
You got it. There's a plane crash into the
Twin Towers. No, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're
right, You're right. I didn't mean to make it seem
like you're wrong, but it's ancient history, man.
Yeah. And Pearl Harbor was a lot like
that, too. But.
Never forgive. Just the Army base in.

(36:52):
Hawaii. We don't even learn about
slavery a lot either. No, no, damn.
But the big We learn about the Holocaust every year.
No, my interesting, interesting.What it was interesting.

(37:15):
Oh, just American history. Yeah, that's a great question.
I don't get it. Yeah, that's OK.
One day you will. Yeah.

(37:36):
I'm dead. Yo, that's funny.
You know, that's funny. We always joke about people
listening. That's if they are listening.
We're definitely this episode isgetting all kinds of like.
What eyeballs? I don't know what you're talking
about. Me either for the record.
For the record. For the record, what?

(37:58):
I don't know what you're talkingabout.
Me neither. Right.
That's what I'm saying. We're both going on record.
We don't know what he was just talking.
Yeah, this. Whatever, man.
We drive with it. OK, I have a serious question,
all right, but I don't mean it in a rude way.

(38:19):
OK, don't take offense. Oh boy.
Jesus, who's it for? Me or him?
Both. I'm sweating.
Jesus, this is dangerous. All right, what's up?
Do real people other than your friends and family listen to
this podcast? Do you guys actually have fans?
Fans, I don't know if we have fans.

(38:39):
I know a couple. I know a couple of people that I
found. Well, it depends.
Like I just know people that askme what I've done and I told
them that I do this. It's like one of the things on
the side and they actively listen to it.
And I have people like that too.My people you don't know, just

(38:59):
listen to it. My mom has a friend that listens
to it. Yeah.
I didn't know that until like a month ago.
Or something. We have listeners and Ghana,
Ghana, Africa. We have listeners in Saudi
Arabia, we have listeners in theNetherlands.

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Yeah, Europe, Ghana. That you know or.
You don't know. No, we don't know.
No, we don't know them. They're just complete.
Actually. Strangers.
Online, I don't know if we talked about this or not.
Did we talk about it? But in Ghana, Africa, Bro
Therapy Show follows #145 on thetop 200 comedy podcast in that

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country. We're top 200 in Ghana.
We're top. We're top 145 in Ghana.
Is that good? Yeah, hey, a win is a win
number. 145I. Mean a win is a win.
That's almost top 100, which is almost top 50, which is almost
top 10, which is almost #1. Win is a win, Yeah.

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So what do you think of that? Eat your.
Eat your heart out. Yeah.
I fucking I, I left my. I left my.
I left my bag inside. Oh you need to stop.
I got that right here. Do you tell your friends?

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Like yo I do a podcast with my dad and uncle.
You don't tell your friends thatthat's something someone would
be embarrassed about. I could see her being
embarrassed. You embarrassed about this?
I. Mean, if someone finds out, I'm
not going to deny it, but I'm not going to go bragging about
it. Do.

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You. I'm just kidding.
Do you genuine question, do you have interest in like learning
how to operate those kind of things?
This. I feel like that's a great Ave.
of like. Yeah.
Of work to look towards. And you're about to go to CC

(41:14):
tech. Like production my what?
Production what? Are you talking about?
Production. That's what you do.
Part of that is that's called, that's part of production is
making sure everything is working correctly.
Oh yeah. And like, there's a lot.
What is the number? Like how many pots you know?

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Fight over 5. Million it's like a market
exists and if you're good, like you could probably pick any
price you want because there's so many buyers and not enough
employees, you know, are you know what I mean?
Yep, like not enough product. Like how many how many podcasts
are there versus how many producers?

(41:57):
I'm sure there's way more podcasts than there are
producers. Facts by like 10.
Yeah, like tenfold. Because I say probably like 4
million of those podcasts are definitely just dudes just
trying to recording themselves, just trying to figure it out.
Yeah, Yo, I'm glad you brought. I'm glad we brought this up
because if my algorithm is listening, I really wish that

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like my algorithm would just shift to like likewise podcast
instead of all the famous ones similar to the bro therapy show.
Like same amount of followers, same amount of listen, same kind
of content, same genre, but you know, there's a, a couple

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podcasts that are similar to ours and like, I want to hear
those guys. I want to hear the other small
guys that start listening and like.
What the algorithm work that way?
Branch out that way. I'll branch out.
I just want to hear those ones. I want to listen to people grow
instead of listening to the Joe Rogan or the Lex Friedman or the

(43:08):
OR the Vlad TV or the whatever. I that's why I like Spotify's
radio option for their songs because I can just like click a
song and it gives me like mindedsongs, you know, like the same

(43:34):
kind of concept you're talking about and then just makes a
whole playlist for me. And it would be nice.
You're saying like it would be nice if they did something like
that, but for podcasts where like you click make a podcast
radio and then it suggests all the podcasts that are similar.
Well, here's the thing. Is Spotify already?

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Spotify hit us up money. Spotify already suggests
likewise podcast. Yeah.
But what I'm saying is they suggest the most famous likewise
podcast I want. I want to listen to all the
podcasts that have 5 followers. Those are the podcasts I want in

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my algorithm. I think I think a good way to do
that is to try to engage in as many social medias as you can.
I can. And when new social medias come

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out, use them as an opportunity to find new content and new
creators. Because new creators are going
to be some of the first people that are like on new media sites
to try to get like get ahead before the flood so that their
stuff can be shown more and theyhave a bigger base before other

(45:09):
bigger fish come in and get a lot of followers and their
content starts getting shown. I think threads is probably like
you could probably look up no, not threads, Blue sky.
You could probably look up podcasts on Blue Sky and find

(45:35):
podcasts. What's blue sky?
Blue sky. Yeah.
Blue Sky's like the Twitter alternative that a lot of people
went to when like, Elon Musk took over Twitter.
Oh. OK, OK.
I'll follow it. Has a really big, I found out

(45:57):
recently photography base a lot of people post post, but well,
because it's it's not surprising, but I just didn't
think about it. So it is surprising because it's
a artist focused social media platform.
So like a lot of the people thatleft X also left X because they

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didn't want their art being scraped up by AI and being used
to feed AI. So a lot of the artists left
Twitter completely and deleted everything so that it couldn't
be used and moved over to Blue Sky.
Who owns Blue Sky I? I forget who specifically.

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I think it has something to do with Jack Dorsey.
I'm not even. Oh shit.
I don't. I don't think so.
Or I don't. I don't think that's wrong.
I just don't remember. Let's see who owns Blue Sky, Jay

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Grabber and the Blue Sky Team. I don't know.
I don't know who that is. I would like to think that

(47:45):
people have done some kind of due diligence before, like
completely migrating to somewhere else.
You would like to. Think right, So I know that
they've been looking into like paid services and some other
things to be able to fund the website while keeping it safer

(48:07):
artist. But it's a in general, it's an
artist focused website. So for social media, I saw some
cool photography on there. I should have sent it over to
you. You sent it over to me.
I I should have? You should have.
All the birds are gone. Now it's the crickets are out.

(48:30):
Now the crickets. I think I'm thinking of a poem.

(48:52):
I don't know the poem, it hasn'tbeen thought of yet, but to say
the first line is when a long day turns into a long life.

(49:13):
That's it. That's like real.
That sounds like what I was trying to talk about to you
earlier this week. Yeah.
You know what I'm talking about.When I was like, the struggle is
real. Nah, OK, maybe I.

(49:37):
Don't know you're you're thinking about the like when I
said the 17 tik toks or whateverthe 37 tik toks I'm.
Like. I don't know, you said.
The struggle is real. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm thinking like when I was talking about we fall into these

(49:58):
patterns and it's like going down a spiral and like we all
just like you're falling down this spiral, like this path of
least resistance. Yeah.
And that we, we have to like actively force ourselves to walk
against the current or like go off the path and like have new

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experiences because it makes that like spiral slow down for
like a brief moment because it'sno longer the path of like least
resistance. You're not in autopilot mode so
easily. But.
You're forced to be like very present in the in the moment

(50:42):
that you're in because it's new.And your body literally can't go
into that state of mind, that subconscious, that autopilot,
that disassociated state. You're literally forced to be
there 'cause like, it's new and your body, like, needs to figure
out what's going on. Yeah.
And in a weird way, you could say that that extends your life

(51:07):
because instead of like letting most of your day slip away to
the subconscious, like autopilot, you're actively
engaging in your real world and present moment constantly
because you're trying new things.
So to the poem or what you had just said, When a long day turns

(51:28):
into a long life, episode 93 episode 93 is the most happy
podcast. Love you guys.