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February 17, 2025 β€’ 52 mins

Welcome to a special episode of The Buck Stops Here, the official program of notinhalloffame.com! πŸŽ™οΈ Join hosts Kirk Buchner and Chris Mouradian as they sit down with Hall of Fame voter Clark Judge. In this episode, they discuss the latest Hall of Fame class, the importance of recognizing founders like Ralph Hay, and the surprising omissions such as Mike Holmgren. Tune in for a deep dive into the Hall of Fame selection process, passionate debates, and some fun detours into music and hockey! πŸ†

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Timestamps:

00:00:35 - Introduction by Kirk Buchner 00:01:23 - Special guest: Clark Judge joins the discussion 00:02:03 - Conversation about Jethro Tull and other music legends 00:03:22 - Clark Judge shares his love for hockey and the Montreal Canadiens 00:04:04 - Appreciation for Clark Judge's articles and insights on the Hall of Fame process 00:05:38 - Discussion on the newly announced Hall of Fame class 00:06:08 - Clark Judge's thoughts on the small but deserving Hall of Fame class 00:07:11 - Debate on the importance of recognizing NFL founders like Ralph Hay 00:08:27 - Surprising omissions: Mike Holmgren and the recency bias among voters 00:09:12 - The qualifications of senior candidates Jim Tyrer and Maxie Baughn 00:10:48 - Speculation on future changes to the Hall of Fame selection process 00:11:04 - The challenge of a growing backlog of qualified candidates 00:12:24 - Upcoming eligible players and the impact on current candidates 00:13:24 - The implications for wide receivers like Hines Ward, Reggie Wayne, and Steve Smith 00:14:53 - The need to define what makes a first-ballot Hall of Famer 00:17:18 - The issue of vote splitting among candidates and contributors 00:18:39 - Challenges faced by contributors and non-players in getting inducted 00:19:25 - Suggestions for improving the selection process for coaches and contributors 00:20:35 - Addressing the 80% voting rule and its implications 00:21:03 - Clarification on the automatic advancement of finalists like Torry Holt 00:22:21 - The logjam of qualified offensive linemen and other candidates 00:24:18 - The impact of recency bias on senior candidates and Hall of Fame selections 00:25:37 - The importance of recognizing forgotten players and contributors 00:26:48 - Frustration with the current selection process and suggestions for improvement 00:27:43 - The challenge of penalizing candidates due to era differences 00:28:19 - The issue of overlooked All-Decade players and their qualifications 00:29:15 - Benefits of direct selection from the Blue Ribbon Committee 00:30:01 - Debate on the necessity of annual coach and contributor categories 00:31:18 - The impact of Centennial class changes on contributors 00:32:26 - The rigorous vetting process for senior candidates and its challenges 00:33:06 - The importance of addressing blind spots in the selection process 00:36:08 - The challenge of electing only 20% of the field 00:37:00 - The impact of virtual voting on the selection process 00:37:43 - The difficulty of promoting candidates virtually compared to in-person 00:38:00 - The importance of engaging discussions during the selection process 00:39:13 - Challenges for quarterbacks like Eli Manning to get inducted 00:41:11 - Historical quarterback resilience and modern rule changes 00:42:12 - The impact of rule changes on quarterback play and injuries 00:48:10 - Discussion on the impact of international games on fans and players 00:52:39 - Final thoughts on the importance of understanding candidate history

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